Limit Omaha hi/lo - the Dneg Principle!
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This video covers a couple of hands that I played recently regarding Limit Omaha hi and Limit Omaha hi/lo and examples of what to do and what not to do. Normally I cover PLO, but I felt like playing Limit; it was close to where I live, and its a bankroll builder! Please lmk what you think in this video if you like it, hate it, etc! Tyvm for tuning in! I also won't be posting a video for about two weeks as I'll be in Iowa for the WSOP Circuit Event, then a brief stop in Vegas, then the MUG with Donkfish at the Hustler.
Thanks Prof, the world needs more O8!
Excellent stuff! "Grew up" on limit poker, and first O8 was a 6/12 with kill to 10/20. Beautiful way to build a bankroll. Unfortunately now the only consistent game is a 4/8 with half kill, but the rake eats away to make it truly a grind. Occasionally a 10/20 or 15/30 will get spread, but it takes some work to get it scheduled. Often will get 2 tables, but it only happens about every other month.
Still love the content, PLO is still available daily, but I do miss the old days and easier money.
Many people don’t get the value of limit…
They also don’t get home a 10/20 game (limit) is much bigger than a 2/5 NLHE game!
Imagine if at the end of this whole series you were just like "Ha sike, Im a hold 'em guy. I made all of this up"
I initially started with hold em…. And when I’m forced I play hold em… I also don’t mind hold em when I’m in a bad run (because the game is sooooo simple imho)….
But yeah that would be funny / not funny.
@@ploprofessor Yeah I try convincing my friends to come down this rabbit hole but they all stay in the comfy HE blanket lol
@@TeeheeFr0g2 did you suggest they start watching my videos from episode 1?
A lot of times if you even start off small (like a 1-1 PLO with a 300 max buy in) that can get the ball rolling. Especially if most of them don’t feel comfortable playing - they may feel more comfortable all playing at a table where everyone is new!
Yeah I sent them Part 1 the day I found it but they didn't bother. The 3 of us all play online and they've dabbled but of course they think it's too gambly/variable. They also refuse to touch PLO8 and Big O and call me crazy for playing them lol. Their loss
Loved the vid thank you
@@theodorewatson4438 Ty for the comment and ty for watching!
Loving these videos
Ty for the comment and Ty for watching!
Keep ‘em coming.
Man, limit seems so fun. Sadly I can't find a Game, not even online. Thanks for the videos, good shiet
Ty for watching and Ty for the comment!
As a hilo grinder I love this content
Love them!
Ty for letting me know! It’s a weekly limit game that I get invited to. Depending on players the game can have some massive pots (1000-1500). This session was very conservative but still profitable. Ty for watching and the comment! I’ll keep these coming even though they are limit!
@@ploprofessor I really like the tutorial videos as well. Lots of great information to take in and mull over. I will add one comment and not trying to be critical, but I think you use "effective" sometimes when you mean "approximate". When talking effective stack size, it is always the smallest stack that is the "effective" between 2 stacks. At least that is how I understand the term being used in poker.
@@AlanSchmuck correct!
brilliant please do more 8-game stuff. this is really great content and so valuable. not alot out there
Ty so much for the comment and Ty for watching. I did Archie, a-5 lowball, 2-7 triple draw, and baduecey.
I just discovered your page. Can you create a playlist on hi lo big o. Working on getting better with big o. Also can you speak more or building a bank roll and money management
I did have a video or two on bankroll management / becoming a pro. / steps to being a pro…. It’s in the chalkboard series - and yes I’ll create a hi/lo playlist! Ty for the comment and ty for watching!
Just reviewing before WSOP....Can not wait
Ty very much for the comment and viewing! I’ll be there this coming Friday june 2-10. Hope to see ya there! Play smart
That second hand is tough for him if you are very aggressive. The 3 should probably convince him to go ahead and fold because it is a big part of a raising range. If the flop were, for example, 77J, now I think he might just have to call you down due to the fact that you might bet a J or an overpair or simply bluff 3 streets.
Thanks, love the limit content! Is it possible for you to expand a lil further and discuss some hands or spots that are more difficult to navigate? For example hands that require u to make a tough call or laydown...
Next Time I’m in a limit game I’ll see if I find any of those spots.
I am pretty good at reading people - especially when it comes to limit so it’s rare that I have a tough spot to call (usually it’s if there is 1000 in the pot and the river bet is 20 or 30 and I’m just getting such good odds) Ty for watching and the question. I’ll see if I run into that situation
I play almost exclusively at the borgata and the game is now 10-20 Limit Big O with a half kill. Lots of old guys and limping preflop. Any advice?
If you apply the 3/3 rule play aggressively and C realize your equity preflop!
Any other hands you like to cap with preflop that aren't a 3-2 rule hand? Like A234 or 2345 for example? Love the hand examples.
In some situations all low will work - the only issue with hands like A235 is you are only drawing to the low most of the time
Great stuff
Tyvm for the comment and Ty for watching!
Appreciate the hand walkthroughs and insights. I’m still contemplating whether or not to play a $600 FLO8 tournament down at the WPT circuit event in Hollywood, FL in November. They also have a PLO8 event I plan on playing. Unfortunately I won’t be there for the PLO Hi events which sucks. I’ll mainly be looking for some good PLO cash games and will use your tips and advice.
I love limit Omaha tournaments. Keep in mind all tournament you’re only going to cash 1 out of 7! Ty for the comment though and Ty for watching!
Herr Professor - double board bomb pots please. Thanks for these.
I have covered those in a previous episode! I’ll see if I can go into more details about these in some live play (as I’m heading to Iowa and then Vegas and then LA)…. So my next video won’t be out till about October
You need to come to dallas texas card house yoyll get plenty of action there 1/2/5
I should be there this coming jan with Donkfish to do a couple of MUG. We are currently working on a schedule! Ty for watching and Ty for the comment!
@@ploprofessor yes i watch donkfish,great guy..I must worn you though if you never played at texas catd hluse in dallas plo is 1/2/5 buy in is 200 to 1k with match the stack so this a good game for you..alot of bad players there, i every now and then win and lose on plo but they are really gamblers theyll chase knowing that they are going to lose and somehow get there,theyll play with any 4 cards, i dont get alot of good cards to pkay but hoping one day ill go on a good dsrn run by the poker gods one day lol
@@randyalvarez8323 I played in Texas during Covid extensively. I’m familiar with how they play! Looking forward to it in Jan!
@@ploprofessor good to know you mentioned in one of your videos that your a plo pro you do this for a living so im curious how long did it take you to be a pro and what type og bankroll was needed for you to say ok im going to do this for a living?
@@randyalvarez8323 you should have 20x the buy in for whatever stakes you want to play. Generally speaking when you start playing 40 hours a week while working …. As long as you are tracking your results and can bring up your bankroll to 20x you should be fine.
The other thing that I stress to my students is find a limit game (super hard to do in Texas)…. Limit games like a 10/20 or 20/40 are huge bankroll builders.
Ty for the question and Ty for watching
Did you say how much bankroll to start with for 4/8 hi only with 1/2 kill?
First of great question! For any limit game you only need about 10x the buy in.
So…. For a 4-8 hi only with 1/2 kill I’d probably buy in for 160-200 (20-25 big bets).
So to be properly bankrolled for that game you should have about a 2k bankroll.
Ty for asking and Ty for watching.
Explain the 2 & 3 rule.
@@TomN44 2/3 rule - when you have 2 to broadway and 3 to a wheel or 3 to broadway and 2 to a wheel.
All 2/3 hands MUST contain an ace.
For example AK24 is a 2/3 (2 to broadway with the AK, and 3 to. Wheel with the A24).
Or AQJ4 - 3 to broadway with AQJ & 2 to a wheel with A4.
@@ploprofessor Thanks. I can't wait to try this in my local 4/8, half-kill game.
at 8:46 isn't it 8:1 odd or 1/9 so 11%
@@alley5022 technically it’s 12.5% but that’s a break even call - so having any more equity than 12.5% (say for example 15%) then you are making a profitable call.
I hope that helps! Ty for the comment and ty for watching!
@@ploprofessor 8:1 is not the same as 1/8. If you have 8 blue balls and 1 red ball. What is the ratio of blue to red and what percentage of the balls are red?
@@alley5022 210 in the pot with a 30 bet.
Your opponent in order to call the 30 they are calling 30 to win 240. They are not calling 30 to win 270 (210+30+30).
The pot started off with 210 and if there is a 30 bet - that means someone needs to call 30 in order to win 240.
Not sure if you are thinking
210 in pot - you bet 30, then opponent calls 30 it’s not 9:1 - because you don’t count the $30 they are putting in.
Not sure if that helps?
@@ploprofessor Your opponent is calling $30 to win the $240 in the pot, that is 8 to 1. In order to make that call they need to be good 1 out of 9 times, which is 11%. Read my example with the Red and Blue balls again in the previous comment.
@@alley5022you’re correct e.g. is 8:1 or 1 in 9 or approx. 11%. Either way, if the hand has 15% equity it’s a profitable call. 🤷♂️.
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Ty for being first! I watched your aces full vs quad jacks last night! That was pretty rough!
@@ploprofessor thanks for watching, they I'm learning to read coolers or mid raise on the river. Learning every time I play