Analogman King Of Tone High Gain vs Normal Gain Shootout Pedal Demo
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Here is a shootout of the 2 most popular King's of Tone. One high gain and one regular gain. Just wanted to see which one I prefer best. Guess what, I like both, but then I'm very indecisive! I hope this helps you choose which one you want when you get to the top of the 45 year waiting list. www.buyanalogman.com/ is where you get em. Just tell Analog Mike you heard it at The Tone Shack!
I've been agonising over whether the regular or high gain for a long time, but now after watching this I've decided on the shoes! :)
I came into this video expecting to like the high gain version, but the normal version sounds much more natural! I like it
The Normal Gain version sounds amazing!
High gain for me. A good high gain tone that has definition and doesn't mush out is really hard to come by. The AM KOT high gain is one of those rare beasts.
Nice video. I kniw it's old, but I just finished my 5 and snd a half year wait: very excited to get the Normal/High configuration.
At 3:00 in, it got me - the high gain options seemed to get too compressed. I just went with a normal gain option - thanks, Toneshack!
Exact same thought at the exact same point
Edit: By listening to your demo again (I am waiting for a KOT...:) I find that the high gain - although not dramatically different - has a bit more beef at the same level (about 20% ?) but the real difference is when you play both channels: the low gain has more presence than the high gain, amazingly softer... All in all, as I don't play much high gain stuff, I'd rather have the normal gain as it brings more flexibility through the 2 channels. Thanks again for your demos: very helpful. Cheers !
Wow guys, don't ride this pedal off! UA-cam video quality sucks. It's a beautifully transparent overdrive that really works best if you know how to really play a guitar. It's touch responsive and super sensitive which means it reacts and highlights your own finger manipulation of the strings and nuances. It's not supposed to be dirty so don't think hard rock. It's for guitarists that dig in and utilise a guitars subtleties and voice. Think Derek Trucks overtones and Michael Landau nuances.
In the hands of the right player, a DS-1 can sound great. But the KOT is a fantastic pedal. FWIW, Boss Pedals are on more touring pro's pedalboards than any other pedal combined.
I could never figure out why Boss because every manufacturer has a sound and I NEVER liked any boss sound!!
sounds like something is clipping (other than the KOT)
This demo is useless unless you show that the higer gain version is able to get the same tones as the normal gain version by dropping the gain know down a few numbers and bringing up the volume to match , as claimed by mike himself. This is only a comparison of the two on the same settings wich is not a good comparison.
Normal KOT sounds special..... wonder if the High Gain KOT is backed off it can match the dynamics of the Normal KOT.
I'm wondering the same exact thing.
+1
im making one right now. yes its the same the only real difference is the gain pot on the hi gain is a 250k on the lo gain its a 100k so at noon its like the lo gain maxed actually at 11 if you use a linear pot. the are just two marshall bluesbreakers in a box. they didnt invemt anything really.MARSHALL did
I have made 4 of these now for friends. I now just change the 220ok resistor to a 330k . it just gives more gain on tap
strassercaster made??
Cool demo. I was going to order the high gain but I think this changed my mind.
TWO King of Tones in one video!? Awesome. I am subscribing.
Thanks for this demo mate, I've just had my mail from Mike after nearly 20 months! I've ordered the standard gain version, it sounded more natural to my ears.
Keep em coming mate, Ive subscribed as I really like these demos, hopefully without the mic clip in future! Haha!
Just got my KOT ordering link today after a long ass 16 month wait! Thanks for posting this as I had no idea whether or not to add the modification til now.
The yellow side must be set differently on both pedals. Red sides are very similar, but there's more boost on the low gain pedal
O love 'em both!!! But to be honest I prefer the Normal gain!
i likeed the regular better and when stack with the od seemed to have more gain than the high gain kot..that's my story and i'm sticking to it
Whoa!! Great demo!! the tone is so crunchy! it can hear the guitar playing, no mid hump at all!! i like!!
HELP: for the love of god what is that little acoustic, folky jingle intro song? I get that stuck in my head ALL THE TIME-- please!!!!
Exceptional demo, I'm almost at the top of the list and this will definitely help in making a decision on which version to get.. Thank you..
Thank you a lot. Great demo. The best. The distortion in the audio sometimes is not good. But great demo.
I'm interested about your thought on the interaction between the high gain mode and the normal mode boosting it before or after it, i'm on the top of the list but I don't know on which side to put the HG mode!
good question!, i think you can send it to him to be modded anyway so dont drive youself to mad!
yeah, you really should've matched the drive/gain for the various stages of drive, rather than simply matching, say, 3:00 to 3:00, know what i mean? of COURSE they'd sound diff matched in the latter test you used here. we need to know if the diff gain/components really alter the tone of the orig ped, and/or whether you CAN dial in the same tones with both...
the only difference between the hi gain and low gain is the drive pot on the hi gain is a 250k and on the low its a 100k.. there are internal switches for clipping as well but thats about it. .im debatting to build,this the bluesbreaker or the morning glory. they are all marshall bluesbreakers. the kot and MG are modded for more gain and volume.the diodes ma856 and 1s1588 are just 914 and 1n4148 pretty much. im not spending 40 bucks for 12 diodes ha ha
Non-modded sounds better.
I prefer the new TS808 Hand-Wired Ibanez...Sold the KOT, made $200!
Does the pedal on the right have the capability to be on the 'high gain mode' via the dip switches inside the pedal? Or is it an extra feature you need to request..
Regular AND high, thank you.
Thank you for your shootouts. The one you made on the Sigma drive by C Matt Mods made me buy it. An awesome TS-type OD, with a lot of options and superb tone.
The regular KOT has got a particular gain and tone to it. Some will maybe prefer high gain, I don't. I came across a pedal this year that has it all: the Riff Shooter. It has the usual Vol, Tone, Gain pots, plus unique appointments like the voice, a central big red dial thats lets you have 3 levels of OD: lazy, horny (my personal fav) and juicy, which would correspond to the KOT High Gain. Additionally, you have a second boost circuit with adjustable level, that you can use on top, or alone. It's hand-crafted by JMB experience in France. Last but not least, it's about 250 bucks new and I've got it pre-owned for 100... It's definitely worth a try, if you can't look it up on UA-cam ;-) Cheers ! \m/
Don't have them to compare myself. Seems the High Gain pedal compresses a little more than the normal version.
Excellent demo thanks....I'm almost to the top of the list! Goin with the high gain.
Thanks for the video. What guitar and amp were you using? Cheers.
Boost, overdrive or distortion? Aren't those the 3 internal options for each channel?
I like the normal gain version, mids sound too altered in the high gain
Were you able to get the exact same tone from the High Gain and Standard gain version: were you able to adjust the volume and drive on the right side of the high gain and exactly match a tone of the Standard gain. They appear to sound different to me especially when dealing with a mild overdrive rhythm part.
Normal gain for me! Great demo!
what was the best internal configuration of this pedal ????
i got to top of list of kot again, i have high gain both sides, should i get normal both sides or red high gain and yellow normal?
Should adjust dip! You can get you want
Great demo imo , at least this guy can play the guitar !!
Toneshack Rocks
Do you have any other KOT video demos? I think I like the non-high gain version better. At higher gain settings the pedal sounds fizzy to me.
+DcsOrCity
You don't suppose the amp has anything to do with it? Could it be the pickups as well? Hmm.. there's some food for thought.
they sound close, very subtle.
Currently, how long is the waiting list for this pedal? It seems like I’ve been on the list forever and I’ve not been contacted yet. Since then I’ve gotten a Prince of Tone and several other boost pedals. Please help.
Probably more than 7 years at this point, maybe 10 even! That's if Mike doesn't retire or run out of parts by then
Which one should I get, I had higher gain both sides and had to let go a while back
How about a King Of Tone vs Boss DS-1 shoot out?
@motokev Sure. for double the price
a year waiting list !,it sounds good but not jailtime good!
You need to hear it for yourself, not on a shit compressed youtube vid. It is fantastic live through a good tube amp. It's name is well deserved.
why not make both sides high gain, many just doing red?
Jonathan Kahanovitch that's what I have and after about 2 years I've come to feel that its just to compressed. At the risk of souding like a broken record but it's true for me.
Ordered mine a month ago!! So pumped for it. Can this pedal be run at higher voltage? Say, 12v, 15v or 18v? Thanks
Yes. I use mine on the 18 volt setting. It bumps up on the headroom a bit. Not really a big bump though. I run Les Paul’s through Supro TremoVerb and Coronado. The added amp was the best bump I’ve ever had. I use the Eventide H9 Left/Right outputs for both amps.
@Gyro911 i would buy that DS1 for even twice the price...
....and I gotta say, the red high gain mod is too compressed for my taste. Proof that "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". I'll be goin normal gain on both channels indeed.
If every guitarist stuck to the if it ain't broke.............
Normal gain sounds more organic and full in my opinion.
What amplifier and guitar are using for your demo?
He's Playing a Budda 30
They sounds very similar over UA-cam.
Regular + Regular for me
Normal KOT forever !
2 yr waiting ? look on ebay, there's a 1 second wait, just push the BIN !
What the hell are those shoes meant to be!!!!
Very common business casual shoes in the UK.
creedois
Also good for scooping pickles out of a jar.
Nice shoe in the shack :-)
The mic clipping is pretty distracting
I have to say normal gain for me. Less saturated.
normal gain def.
High gain for me!!
Congrats! hah 14 months to go for me
so wheres the high gain?
If your tag is "bloodseed" the KOT may not be the right pedal for you!
He like everyone else says it wrong. It is not high gain. Mike lists it as "higher gain" as in higer than normal , but this is not a high gain pedal. It is a low to medium gain pedal . After the mod it has the ability to go two or three notches HIGHER than normal. Not high gain. People just say it wrong.
Jesse Thompson
Yeah, a Boss metal zone would be a better match for him. ha ha. Leave the good tone for the rest of us.
Your microphone is clipping bad!
I would never wait two years for a pedal! 😂😃😅
but if you do wait on the list the price is extremely reasonable in my opinion. they could probably ask double with supply and demand.
@@BSPotter I have it on my line 6 HX effects. It is digital modeling but I don't think that I could tell the difference.
@@jdl2180 yeah, fair. I should like to plug the real thing into my '64 hand wired DR or my Mesa TC100.
the pedal sounds good, but not $400 worth. I don't hear anything that impressive.
But, I cood B wrong, it is a video
So true. I wouldn't even use a Boss tuner. Bush league.
Always, Original always better than blah-blah version.
I'm a 'normal' man.
In my opinion, THE most over rated pedal EVER made. Bought one, waited two years and got it. COMPLETE disappointment. Never again....
R u ok man. This is a great pedal. WTF r u running it into a Line 6 spider amp. Jeeze u cant be for real
I'm just fine. Over hyped and ridiculously expensive TS9 type pedals just don't do 'it' for me I guess? Seriously, that pedal was nothing short of underwhelming in EVERY respect for me. LOL....Line 6. No, I'm running an early Matchless Clubman and a %13 JJN 50/100. I'd comfortable in saying I KNOW tone. Maybe I just got a really lousy one. Seriously, it was mushy, mid-heavy and lacked in every respect. It really was not good, at all.
Agree. I have one but will likely be selling it when I can get around to it. It's nothing more than a couple Marshall Blues Breaker clones in one box with some diode switching. Lot's of cork sniffing on some of this stuff. You would be surprised at the similarities. (I use to work in the wine business).
guitphil wow
Yeah, I know. How could I? The one I have was a stroke of luck in terms of $$. got it for $100 and it's a V4. Otherwise there's no way I would've got on da list for that kinda money and lead time. I build my own sometimes too and have a couple of OD's that I like but more often than not I use pretty generic stuff or at least what use to be considered generic. I'm 60 now and managed to hang one to most of the good stuff. Anyway, got the KOT just to see what it was all about and peek under the hood.
Actually, there are (IMO) some real jems out there that can be had for gigging mans money and sound pretty good. The Truetone stuff (VS-XO) is very nice. Lots of bang for the buck. I also tried one of the new(er) MXR OD's that surprised me. It's the 4-knob brushed gold one. Modified OD I think it's called. Boss OD-3, Bluesdriver, SD-1 are often overlooked too. Again, just my opinion.
I usually play through old Fender amps that are almost as old as I am.
sounds crap to me.... how about a les Paul into a cranked Marshall.
man, all the hype i have heard about this pedal is bull, not impressed -great shoes
Tune up your guitar first!
Useless, totally misleading "demo".
Robert Wright care to explain why?
No because he's an idiot