KTM 1290 Superduke R 2020 Healtech ESE servo removal
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2021
- Due to the KTM superduke 1290 R 2020 having MTC failures and becoming a very common problem We are being forced to fit a Healtech servo eliminator plug.
The most common reason for the MTC failure to pop up on the dash is the servo cables on the butterfly valve being out of tolerance. KTM deny this as a fault and so we are forced to find a fix. I have done a video to show how to remove the servo motor unit and cables and fit the plug.
It is not the best video but it should help.
After speaking to 2 KTM dealers it is stated that just doing this mod will not void the warranty unless a fault with you bike occurs and is caused by this mod.
Thing is my personal experience states a butterfly valve can not cause any problems. only the healtech plug could become faulty and the FI light would pop up.... - Авто та транспорт
Did this today, even though I've had no problems...YET. Goin' on a big ride, better safe than soz, and this step by step was just what I needed. Thanks!
Thanks you it helped alot, did it today after a MTC Failure, the bike only had 1035Km/643mi. Installed the ESE-KT2 on a 2020. The bike feels much better. Its a must!
Did the same today and your video saved me loads of time. Thank you 👍🏼
2017 GT stock no mods. Got the MTC failure. Watched 100 videos read forums, looked all over the bike for something wrong. bought a new battery, old battery started bike but was a coming up on two years and I saw people claiming low amp/volts could throw the code. Finally bought the adapter cable and an automotive scanner for $140 which I'm going to take back. It gave me the code but doesn't really see much on the KTM since it's made for cars. It did give me the exhaust valve code. After watching your video on dealer setting cables within a parameter I started messing with the cables. Tightening and loosening a tiny bit at a time and turning key on. I got the code off, engine light off, rode bike , came home and tightened the lock nuts on cables thinking I got it. After tightened lock nuts the code came back. Kept messing again with cables because that was obviously where the problem was. Code kept coming when I turned key on and couldn't seem to find the sweet spot on cable tension. Loosened the lock nut closest to actuator until cable was sloppy loose. Code went off and so far has stayed off with tensioner loose enough to wiggle it. This (might) be an emergency roadside emergency fix so ya don't have to ride under 5500 RPM!!!
Have had 20 plus bikes of several makes, roadraced 20 years and have done extensive work and mods on many bikes. Even put a GSXR1000 swingarm on a 96 Harley Heritage. Only had to deal with servo on a few GSXRs changing full pipe, but never had a problem with servo on stock bike. I can see how people make several trips to dealer, spend money and time, leave dealer and code comes back. I'm ordering the ES today and scrapping the servo. Considering I have a cable real loose and code is off, it appears any undue resistance from cables to servo, throws the code. And is why it happens at any time on bikes from my 17 to present. Whether 300 miles, or the 22K miles on mine. I'm 62 and never had a bike I didn't put a pipe on, re jet carbs / add power commander. If I changed pipe on KTM it would be a given to do the ES. But since I don't bother anymore to spend money on that stuff, you would think, leaving it stock, there wouldn't be a need for ES. If I knew this would be an issue I would have thrown the servo in trash when I bought the bike. Seems this has been a frustrating issue for many people. Wanted to share, hope it helps. Fortunately my servo is in plain sight easy to get to.
Was that the issue, ever get it sorted?
I’ve been recommended fitting one of these from the kTm mechanics themselves, thank you for your step by step mate 😁👍🏼
Thanks Dale - you're a good man!
Thank you sir for this video. It solved the issue .
Did this today for my -21 model. Bike was in limb mode and mtc error was there. Reason was too tight cable on the exhaust valve. Installed ese immediately after got the bike back from dealer and works nicely.
The same thing is happening to my 23 model evo. I'm taking my bike to dealer tomorrow to diagnose it. We will see what they say.
Anyway, I ordered ESE as well.
Ordering this right now hope it fixes my 2020 that has been to shop 8 times now for mtc failure only killed bike the 1st few times now I just lose the option for cruise control, quickshift, wheelie control, slip control, and can't change ride modes. Turns into just a raw bike with no new age comforts. Has made me learn that wheelies on this bike are amazing that I only used to do on my enduro until now. Sorry for my rambling but I do have 1 question was yours in mtc failure at the time that u did this delete and if so did it clear next start up? Thanks and for me to have 8 or more shop visits not too bad considering a few times they just cleared it never fixed anything. And I ride about 12000 miles a year. But the 3.0 are absolutely amazing bikes
Whats for is that servo? + and - to remove or stay this in my ktm SDR
Thanks for answering!
I’ve had. Others on the forums. Enoughs enough. Taking serve off ASAP.
Want to know exact use of these valves, as Exup valve on Yamaha’s affected torque, but I think now it’s more for noise emissions.
As you say its mostly noise emissions. Torque you would never even notice it its so minimal.
I did not have any issues with my 1290 Gen 3 MY 2022 after one year and around 12000 km until now. But when I heard about the problem about MTC failures I bought the Healtech Dongle just to have it with me in case I will get the problem on a trip. But now I am thinking to get rid of the Servo and install it before I get into the same problem. What du you guys think?
Hi,
I have a superduke GT and i have a question : what is the benefit to "remove" (shunt, stay open) the exhaust valve ?
More power ? more smoothness on low rpm ?
And after theorical benefit, what do you feel really on bike ?
Nothing...0...
Amigo le quiero poner un full sistem a mi super duke 1290r v3 solo con ponerle ese eliminador de servo tengo para que no me prenda testigo rn tablero ?
No sound clip after? Thinking with the valve open it should sound deeper/nicer?
Little difference with OEM can
What is the exhaust valve even for? Like why is it even in there?
Hi, fantastic video, just a few questions, will this void my warranty in UK? also I’m guessing this won’t effect the way the bike runs/performs, just have peace of mind as I have had the MTC failure
Exactly. What any manufacture states is they have to prove removing the flapper valve was the cause of a failure just like removing an end can caused a failure. There is physically not chance if that happening. So yea its safe.
@@wr426lover so does removing a end can void warranty or the flapper Valve servo?
Sound check?
I’ve got 11k miles on just got MTC waiting of OBE2
To check what the fault is . Just out of 2 year warranty. Looks like it’s a high chance it’s the cables stretched on the exhaust flap .
What was it?
@@Sanisani9 the exhaust valve .
The cable bolt had come slightly lose
Re tighten a couple ignition re start and fault cleared .
Did this on my 2021 Super Duke and the MTC failure cleared but whenever I stop the bike after a ride it comes back, open it back up and disconnect and reconnect the ESE block and it clears again. Any tips?
not had this issue so no help my end sorry.
Thanks for the video! Really helpful! Could you give me an update if it’s still working well?☺️
still perfect.
Porque se hace esto?
hey does the healtech helps when i use fullsys akra evolution line?
no sure
Where did you get the servo plug from ?
HealTech
Hey do you know the torque required for the subframe and passenger rear set bolts? They’re m8 I think. Thanks
Just installed. I left the valve in but might drill the 2 taps and remove it.
I have also drilled the 2 welded screws and removed it. Yea 8mm bolts are roughly 20nm torque
25NM
does the mtc still work afhter taking the servi of?
yes
hi there when you put the healtech did you get any fault code ? i am still getting a fault code.
You shouldn't get any faults at all. If you still are I would suggest contacting heal tech.
@@wr426lover apparently there are KT1 and KT2 versions and i needed KT1 but put kt2 :9 never mind i will sort it out hopefully
@@tancakar8987 how do you know what one you need?
@@mktm1290 apparently all the bikes around before 2019 uses the GEn1 healtech it does say on the package kt1 or kt2
@@tancakar8987 so what does gen 3 need?
Did u get the recalls fixed .wiring and shift shaft.
No, I had already spoken to my dealer, he said servo and wiring under seat, well I had already removed the servo and the wiring I we do myself.
Guys if u do that u have to remap ecu, otherwise you run hazard to have a lean mixture. This will destroy your engines! Not for nothing Akrapovic does a remap if u install the exhaust system. Same thing for the SAS!
This is incorrect 😅 the flapper valve is for noise reduction and back pressure. Removing this at the see time as the end can will allow your bike to run better. The flapper valve or EXUP valve removed in theory will give you a very slight increase in bhp.
NOTE, you will not destroy your engine 🤣 if for some reason that was the case do you really think Healtech would sell these with no warning in description stating this? 😉
@@wr426lover Yeah, that's a ton of half-knowledge from both of you. It's not gonna make your engine run lean but it sure as hell won't give you power increase either, quite the opposite. You actually lose torque in the lower revs. But this has absolutely nothing to do with back pressure.
How much 'back pressure' you think this valve will create sitting behind 2 meters of piping, 2 catalytic converters, a middle silencer and all the way at the end of the exhaust system? ZERO.
There is a fix for this when they do the harness recall.
No the recall doesn't fix it completely.
❤️🐏🤟🐐
mayby im stupid but what is mtc?
Motor traction control
same process i done on my 2010 triumph daytona 675 , why the factory , they know that is common fault ,why dont do a straight pipe , what need to shut the exhaust, 2020 bike actually new , the development team is a joke ...... quality control are bad ......
If it was a fault why not just take it back to ktm and get them to fix it, bike will still be in warranty
Because it is a common fault that they won't fix. They have such a very small setting in the parameters which even when a dealer sets it, it very quickly loses its setting. Its a very common fault that more than 50% of gen3 owners get. Most of us rather remove the servo system than at 70mph in a sharp corner to get the MTC failure to then throw us off.
KTM has to comply with emissions and they cant remove this.... its way easier for us to remove it
@@hellomihai Each to their own, but I think I would just keep taking it back to KTM to fix it instead of voiding my warranty. Seems to be quite a few faults on the 3.0 version a few recalls as well. Touch wood.....not had a problem with my 2019