Shameless Copycat Guns in History

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  • @Simplehistory
    @Simplehistory  2 роки тому +2324

    What do you do if you have no original ideas of your own? Steal and rip off someone else's research, ideas and design and make a shameless copy! 🤮🔫

    • @dells4464
      @dells4464 2 роки тому +81

      Good idea! I’ll try this one sometime not like there gonna have a war with me

    • @ValerioPoortooo
      @ValerioPoortooo 2 роки тому +23

      Bella fratello viva l Italia

    • @srf8788
      @srf8788 2 роки тому +7

      🧑🏻‍🦲🤜🏽👹

    • @hobobaggins8938
      @hobobaggins8938 2 роки тому +65

      We all know that China will always will be good at bootlegging and copying

    • @davidspencer8373
      @davidspencer8373 2 роки тому +3

      Like video

  • @jaykobnash4627
    @jaykobnash4627 2 роки тому +5409

    That reminds me of the time in Vietnam. when the Navy seals desperately needed a sub-machine gun in 9mm, and was using the Swedish K at the time. Seeing how Sweden was a neutral country, it posed a problem having Swedish guns in a war zone to which they cut off the supply of new sub-machine guns. So the government commissioned Smith and Wesson to make the model 76 which was a direct copy of the Swedish K. Super interesting story in my opinion. I don’t understand why when the government shamelessly copies something it’s okay, but when I pirate a copy of shrek 3 to DVD the FBI kicks down my door.

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado 2 роки тому +87

      Lol

    • @ericktamberg670
      @ericktamberg670 2 роки тому +207

      The Police Department where I work here in Brazil still has some units of Smith & Wesson M-76 (probably supplied by CIA during anti-Communist struggle in 70's). M-76 is a fragile gun. All that I handled are with loose buttstocks, dropping magazines while cocking or losing parts. Other SMGs of the same era, or even older (like Beretta M-12 or Brazilian INA) generally came to our days in better conditions.

    • @kylep3440
      @kylep3440 2 роки тому +233

      Because this greatly angers Shrek when you pirate his life , and the government fears his ire

    • @naonzz5942
      @naonzz5942 2 роки тому +57

      Watch out dude disney may sent assassin to stop you from copying their films

    • @bintheredonethat
      @bintheredonethat 2 роки тому

      After the FBI corrals your sorry rear end for stealing Hollywood's cut, they are an approved propaganda organ after all, you will be punished. I see being locked in an unpadded room with bright, oscillating rainbow colors and forced to listen to Nancy Pelosi speeches at 100db, for at least 48 hours. After which you will be force fed the blue pill, attend some re-education seminars before being released on Rodeo Drive with no money. That'll learn ya!

  • @lockedon8953
    @lockedon8953 2 роки тому +1806

    Unlike Russia's model, the galil actually had built in wire cutters and a bottle opener.
    The M60 was also technically a clone.

    • @OGRajamaki
      @OGRajamaki 2 роки тому +192

      Wire cutter in Galil was copied from the finnish RK62. The bottle opener though was genius for their climate!

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 2 роки тому +66

      @@OGRajamaki There is no wire cutter in RK62. The Wire cutter is in the bipod in Galil and RK62 has no bipod. The bottle opener was because soldier break their magazines by using them as bottle openers.

    • @OGRajamaki
      @OGRajamaki 2 роки тому +84

      @@okaro6595 The wire cutter is the muzzle device on end of RK62. You twist the muzzle of the rifle around the wire using it and shoot that's the way to cut wire with RK.

    • @markkaufmann7123
      @markkaufmann7123 2 роки тому +49

      Well I would say the M60 is a mashup of the MG 42 and the FG 42

    • @abyssinia4ever
      @abyssinia4ever 2 роки тому +26

      The M60 is a hybrid of the FG42 and the MG42.

  • @igotnothingbettertodo472
    @igotnothingbettertodo472 2 роки тому +1573

    Just a note for the Israeli Galil, Yisrael Galili was not Palestinian but rather Russian with the original name of Mikail Balashnikov yes Balashnikov and he has no connection to Mikail Kalashnikov the famous AK47 designer.
    He changed his name to Yisrael Galili to sound more Israeli like because they were going to name a gun after him and so Galili was chosen.
    Edit: lot of people seem to think Balashnikov was born in Mandatory palestine but no he was not, the wiki page you read is of Yisrael Berchenko a Hagganah commander who also changed his name to Galili.
    So in summery there are 2 Yisrael Galili's one with the original name of Mikail Balashnikov, a Soviet who moved to Israel and designed the Galil rifle, and Yisrael Berchenko who was born in Israel and was a Haggana (underground millitia before the IDF) commander.

    • @ethanandlanehall1357
      @ethanandlanehall1357 2 роки тому +225

      "What should we name this gun?"
      "The Balishnikov."
      "That sounds too much like Kalashnikov."
      "Fine, how about Galil?"
      "Good enough."

    • @Thoroughly_Wet
      @Thoroughly_Wet 2 роки тому +186

      "mom, can we have Kalashnikov?"
      "We have Kalashnikov at home"
      Kalashnikov at home: "Balashnikov"

    • @then00brathalos
      @then00brathalos 2 роки тому +81

      AK : you are weak
      Galil : I'm You !

    • @kuzakani4297
      @kuzakani4297 2 роки тому +52

      @@then00brathalos insert two Spiderman pointing each other meme*

    • @jarjar2427
      @jarjar2427 2 роки тому +36

      He was born in Mandatory Palestine, which makes him Palestinian.

  • @theprofessional155
    @theprofessional155 2 роки тому +1622

    Norinco also produced the Type 56 a very similar copy of the Tula Soviet SKS. However this rifle was designed with cooperation from the Soviet Union . However the Soviet Union regretted it after the Sino Soviet Split. This is when the two communist countries turned on each other . They also later designed the Type 63 which is also in COD Cold War. It has a detachable 20 round magazine where the original SKS uses stripper clips . The Type 63 could also be produced for full automatic fire where the original SKS was semi automatic .The Type 63 had higher accuracy then the Type 56 a Chinese Copy of the AK47. The Chinese army used their own copies of the SKSs and AK47s against the Soviets the same country they copied from in the Sino Soviet border war.

    • @hashhashbrowns5381
      @hashhashbrowns5381 2 роки тому +67

      Nice the great GTA youtuber, (generic comment aside Norinco even made some M14's as well.Back in vietnam i think they were back and forth but went with russian like frames).

    • @CheeseBaller948
      @CheeseBaller948 2 роки тому +44

      didn’t expect to see you here

    • @danielnails7655
      @danielnails7655 2 роки тому +35

      I own a Type 56. Original parts on her. Chinese stampings. Everything. She's dinged on the stock that she more than likely seen multiple theaters.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen 2 роки тому

      Communist China copies everything.

    • @zhangmeng8217
      @zhangmeng8217 2 роки тому +14

      They also made copy’s of M14 and all sorts of pistols. (Most from the Soviet Union)

  • @Dont_care_4_U
    @Dont_care_4_U 2 роки тому +533

    You forgot the most important feature that the Israeli galil had.
    A built in bottle opener!
    It was added because Israeli soldiers kept using their FAL magazines as make shift bootle openers and in the process ruined said magazines.
    So in order to avoid this situation IWI designed its original galil with both a wire cutter and a bottle opener at the base of the barrel

    • @polrealfake
      @polrealfake 2 роки тому +36

      Holy moly, that is awesome.

    • @justink-kh3ps
      @justink-kh3ps 2 роки тому +35

      and the bipod doubled as wire cutters too

    • @vrygon0
      @vrygon0 2 роки тому +16

      his last name was also balashnikov before changing it to galil (to avoid confusion)

    • @rustomkanishka
      @rustomkanishka 2 роки тому +16

      The Galil is often issued to reservists troops, so it's not unusual for the reservists to keep the weapon at home, or carry it after training.
      Israelis aren't all drinking soda all the time, it's just the reservists.

    • @FishKepr
      @FishKepr 2 роки тому +4

      Not to be outdone, Picatinny rail bottle openers are readily available.

  • @tetov1620
    @tetov1620 2 роки тому +718

    Mexico's fx 05 was thought to be a copy of the g36 and hk sued them. However, they dropped the lawsuit when they were allowed to see the interal mechanisms and concluded that although it takes visual inspiration the fx05 is not a copy

    • @MaestroJericho
      @MaestroJericho 2 роки тому +58

      Lol I wonder how much money changed hands with that fiasco.

    • @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
      @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus 2 роки тому +45

      I can’t wait to sell water in cans that are red with white letters on them and I’ll make my brands name . . . “Goke”

    • @adamarens3520
      @adamarens3520 2 роки тому +16

      @@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus okay but I call the rights to Diet Goke!

    • @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus
      @RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus 2 роки тому +8

      @@adamarens3520 how about 20 percent of the distribution profits and 30 percent of merch profits?

    • @DiegoValle392
      @DiegoValle392 2 роки тому +7

      Fair use and piracy are moral obligations

  • @rhorho6538
    @rhorho6538 2 роки тому +888

    The fact that the Springfield rifle, a copy of the Mauser bolt action, was not included is a damn shame. Especially since the patents for the Mauser were still valid so the US "nationalized" them.

    • @payday2sucksballs216
      @payday2sucksballs216 2 роки тому +158

      How dare imply that americans ever copy other things

    • @maledetto1221
      @maledetto1221 2 роки тому +52

      If I remeber correctly Mauser won the trial, but due to the end of the war it was barely enough to keep the company rolling instead of going bankruptcy

    • @skulljim9547
      @skulljim9547 2 роки тому +20

      I’m surprised he didn’t mention this and no one brought it up as far as I can tell. The type 4/5 (it is referred to as both) which is basically an m1 garand with a 10 round magazine instead of 8 and uses 7.7x58mm arisaka but aside from that is just an m1

    • @shinobu2394
      @shinobu2394 2 роки тому +9

      yeah i was expecting it to be in the video, surprised it wasnt

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 2 роки тому

      @@payday2sucksballs216 HA HA USA dont copy but steal. Your rocket technology is direct steal from german V2, Your B2 is a copy of the horten 229 which again you actually steal from german
      Plz dont make us laugh

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 2 роки тому +667

    Yisrael Galili actually was not originally called that. He actually had to change his name because of the rifle. His original name was completely unsuitable for someone developing a Kalashnikov copy. Believe or not, it was Balashnikov.
    RK62 use also a milled receiver. Only exception were the RK62-76 models made by Valmet for about five years from the the late 70s. Sako never used stamped receivers. The army required similar tolerances for the stamped so it did not become much cheaper and was abandoned. Mine was from 1973 and had a milled receiver.
    Sten was a simplified version of Lanchester SMG which was a copy of German MP-28 Schmeisser. Schmeisser was one of few German SMGs with semi-automatic option and Sten kept that. MP40 was only fully automatic.

    • @yourlocalmilkman916
      @yourlocalmilkman916 2 роки тому +7

      Atleast the galil a good rifle

    • @dannyg1153
      @dannyg1153 2 роки тому +60

      🅱️alashnikov rifle would have been so cool

    • @eelchiong6709
      @eelchiong6709 2 роки тому +1

      MP-38, not 28.

    • @davidgibson3631
      @davidgibson3631 2 роки тому +1

      Galill now have a best copy gun in Vietnam . That is STV gun

    • @9895-j9c
      @9895-j9c 2 роки тому +2

      ​@@eelchiong6709 it was the mp28 they copied from for the Lanchester the British had captured some of these in Ethiopia the british did not have access to mp 38s at the time, the most immediately obvious difference between the mp28/Lanchester and the mp38 is the former 2 feed from the side and latter feeds from below

  • @BadBomb555
    @BadBomb555 2 роки тому +309

    Britain in fact did copy an SMG as well. Lanchester MkI was a straight copy of German MP28 SMG with additional bayonet lug. This was however way too expensive to produce in mass quantity so Britain had to resort to cheapening it's productation till they managed to make it into the Sten, which Germans copied later to complete the full cycle of copying.

    • @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
      @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 роки тому +7

      MP18

    • @FlunkeyMonkey
      @FlunkeyMonkey 2 роки тому +19

      @@azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 the mp28 is an evolution of the mp18, with many improvements made to its design after the end of ww1

    • @ThatPianoNoob
      @ThatPianoNoob 2 роки тому +1

      For the amount of weapons still capable of holding bayonets I wonder how many people were killed with them in ww2.. seems like that and horses were some of the dumbest traditional pitfalls.

    • @jacobzehner2004
      @jacobzehner2004 2 роки тому

      Yeah I saw one and it look exactly like a mp28.

  • @VertietRyper
    @VertietRyper 2 роки тому +196

    It's worth mentioning that the Sten is quite literally a gutted MP-28 because it worked and they had the ability to make a lot of it. The MP-28 was a German interwar-era improvement upon the MP-18 from World War 1. So yes, the sidemounted magazine well of the Sten is from the gun's... lineage.

    • @neowisek7757
      @neowisek7757 2 роки тому +16

      Surprise surprise the american UA-camr is biased.

    • @Joe-sc8fu
      @Joe-sc8fu 2 роки тому

      @@neowisek7757 Who isn't?

    • @cac_deadlyrang
      @cac_deadlyrang 2 роки тому

      I’m kinda surprised that the British didn’t relegate the Sten to reservists and resistance while adopting the Owen gun or something as standard-issue.

    • @jimjam5239
      @jimjam5239 Рік тому +3

      I think that's a bit of a stretch. Though the Lanchester, used by the Royal Navy, was quite literally a shameless copy of the MP28.

    • @VertietRyper
      @VertietRyper Рік тому

      @@jimjam5239 I mean, there is the obvious lack of comfortable furniture on the Sten but mechanically they're the same. A simple blow-back submachinegun.
      Calling the Sten maybe more of a mass produced and gutted spin on the MP-28 is probably more appropriate than calling it a ripoff, though

  • @Amigafur
    @Amigafur 2 роки тому +24

    Fun fact! The Sten was based off of the Lanchester, and the Lanchester was a copy of the MP28, a German SMG!

  • @vivelenapoleon1927
    @vivelenapoleon1927 2 роки тому +178

    USA: I made this new gun!
    UK: Cool, too expensive for us.
    France: I got my Famas, but good for you.
    China: OUR gun.

    • @jcn268
      @jcn268 2 роки тому +14

      China makes guns cheaper to do business , that's why China is so wealthy

    • @duff6587
      @duff6587 2 роки тому

      @@jcn268 they claim to be communist but they're more consumer market driven than the US cheap stuff made to be replaced

    • @jcn268
      @jcn268 2 роки тому

      @@duff6587 they never claimed to be communists , they call themselves socialist , western fed media keeps calling them communism when China does better in than the US in business and trade

    • @CantoniaCustoms
      @CantoniaCustoms 2 роки тому +8

      @@jcn268 Cheaper within acceptable quality

    • @frichoko1985
      @frichoko1985 2 роки тому +18

      @@jcn268 cap

  • @bluedemon6989
    @bluedemon6989 2 роки тому +281

    14:54 I love how they embraced the “Made in China” Meme where the stock from the CQ-311 just straights up falls onto the ground like the gun was poorly made, just like the products made in China are.

    • @wesleyy2502
      @wesleyy2502 2 роки тому +29

      I was hoping it would just completely fall apart.

    • @kingking-ci1gf
      @kingking-ci1gf 2 роки тому +32

      I was expecting it to pop out a flag saying “no refunds”

    • @海人-n4t
      @海人-n4t 2 роки тому +25

      Yeah, check your computer rq, you see it? Yeah, I but ya do, made in China

    • @lanceamadantebonife3987
      @lanceamadantebonife3987 2 роки тому +62

      @@海人-n4t mine says made in taiwan.

    • @jackryanp.llenes7495
      @jackryanp.llenes7495 2 роки тому +23

      @@lanceamadantebonife3987 the chips are from taiwan

  • @nicholasmontgomery8594
    @nicholasmontgomery8594 2 роки тому +256

    I'm surprised the North Korean M16A1 wasn't mentioned. It wasn't standard issue to their troops but for their guerilla forces that would have smuggled them into the south, commit terrorist acts and ditch the guns. The idea was that once the guns were recovered, local forces would blame American soldiers for the acts.

    • @redpipola
      @redpipola 2 роки тому

      ‘Terrorist act’

    • @JustGuy7721
      @JustGuy7721 2 роки тому

      From what I heard, North Korea have unlicensed copy of K2 rifles since 1990's issued by special forces and it was known during 2015 North Korea shelling of South Korea across the Western Front.

    • @TrumpIsYourPrez2024
      @TrumpIsYourPrez2024 2 роки тому +48

      Sounds like no russian

    • @JustGuy7721
      @JustGuy7721 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrumpIsYourPrez2024 Huh? What do you mean?

    • @AbsoluteRatBastard
      @AbsoluteRatBastard 2 роки тому +53

      @@JustGuy7721 Like the call of duty mission. Makarov and friends attacked a russian airport, didnt speak russian, and left the dead body of a CIA agent that was caught undercover by them to make it look like the americans attacked the russian airport, causing World War 3

  • @FloodExterminator
    @FloodExterminator Рік тому +7

    Fun Fact: Late war Sten guns were made in a way that would allow them to use MP40 magazines!

  • @Freedomlander_101
    @Freedomlander_101 2 роки тому +250

    As an actual Gun Enthusiast, i do hate Copycat gun designs, although i find them somewhat interesting.

    • @bravecylinder93
      @bravecylinder93 2 роки тому +40

      The worse they look, the funnier it is to make fun of them

    • @GameTavern2224
      @GameTavern2224 2 роки тому +18

      The Galel is actually pretty impressive

    • @royale7620
      @royale7620 2 роки тому +19

      The only copycat gun I approve of is the Spanish 1911

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 2 роки тому

      @@bravecylinder93 Yep.

    • @GameTavern2224
      @GameTavern2224 2 роки тому

      @@royale7620 Spain made a 1911?

  • @christianryansino3257
    @christianryansino3257 2 роки тому +215

    Fun fact: Although Norinco copied the CQ-311, they’ve never intended it to be used by China’s official armed forces but instead export it to foreign countries at a cheaper price. The Norinco QBZ-95 instead is the official service rifle of China.

    • @duff6587
      @duff6587 2 роки тому +20

      Yeah we heard from the video but still cool I guess

    • @EmbeddedWithin
      @EmbeddedWithin 2 роки тому +9

      They said that in the video…

    • @JM-ru7nl
      @JM-ru7nl 2 роки тому +17

      Since 2019, Norinco QBZ-95 is being rapidly replaced by the QBZ-191 as the official main rifle of China

    • @jeffersonray9503
      @jeffersonray9503 2 роки тому +7

      The SWAT unit in Fujian actually equipped CQ-311,or maybe it's variant.

    • @joshuajoaquin5099
      @joshuajoaquin5099 2 роки тому +1

      i recall in Warrior competition at Jordan where all Special Forces around the world compete at each other, i saw a photo of Chinese spec ops carrying CQ carbines

  • @jannawrocki4427
    @jannawrocki4427 2 роки тому +397

    What is also interesting that the Polish Underground State build own version of Sten, which was called Błyskawica or The Lightning. And it also looked like sten gun but with magazine like in MP40.

    • @_Abjuranax_
      @_Abjuranax_ 2 роки тому +22

      The Sten jammed during the assassination of Heydrich, but he later died of wounds from a grenade his partner had. So, the Sten was probably one of the worst designs to copy, but when you need a lot of guns, reliability will always play second fiddle to quantity in the field.

    • @felixc.3444
      @felixc.3444 2 роки тому +6

      @@_Abjuranax_ I like your words, funny magic man

    • @averagedemographic8933
      @averagedemographic8933 2 роки тому +15

      @@_Abjuranax_ The Sten or something similar is the best weapon to covertly and cheaply produce. It’s quite literally a pipe, spring, bolt, trigger, and barrel. The Błyskawica could also use captured MP40 mags making reliability better.

    • @mp40submachinegun81
      @mp40submachinegun81 2 роки тому +3

      like me?

    • @felixc.3444
      @felixc.3444 2 роки тому +1

      @@mp40submachinegun81 precisely

  • @AudieHolland
    @AudieHolland 2 роки тому +129

    The animation of parts falling off of the Chinese 'M-16' reminds me of the original M-60, used in Vietnam.
    The trigger section had a tendency to fall off rather sneakily if not checked or somehow fastened more securely.
    This would prove to be rather embarrassing when the M-60 gunner needed to lay down suppressive fire during an enemy ambush.
    Some gunners wound their dogtag chain around the barrel to prevent some other stuff from getting loose.

    • @RedTachi
      @RedTachi Рік тому +3

      My M60 stayed solid and accurate as long as you did short bursts.

    • @yae_123
      @yae_123 Рік тому

      No wonder why the Chinese knockoff never saw major service with anyone

    • @mrsock3380
      @mrsock3380 Рік тому +9

      I'm surprised they video didn't mention the M60 when talking about MG42 clone, but I'm sure that wouldn't be clone, just that it "drew inspiration from".

    • @Jake-dh9qk
      @Jake-dh9qk Рік тому +8

      @@mrsock3380 It seems that this channel tends to be a bit biased towards China in general. NATO is notorious for using eachother's designs in tanks, jets and guns but it largely focuses on China to perpetuate the idea that only China copies, when in reality most countries do the same thing.
      I bet if they made a video about China they would criticize their use of "human wave attacks" but when they make a video on Napoleon they would praise his "genius tactics" when Napoleon's greatest tactic was also literally human wave attacks.

    • @Darkpara1
      @Darkpara1 Рік тому +4

      @@Jake-dh9qk China are known as the worlds cheap replica fiends, when it comes to basically every piece of technology.
      "Made in China" is the joke for a reason. Basically every country has done it to some extent though.

  • @wilbertting9211
    @wilbertting9211 2 роки тому +263

    Okay okay, hear me out. The Galil may be a clone, but it's practical and a pretty neat-looking firearm.

    • @GK-mr9ko
      @GK-mr9ko 2 роки тому +38

      It’s sexy and reliable AF

    • @k1tsun386
      @k1tsun386 2 роки тому +41

      It also has a bottle opener and wire cutters

    • @Better_Clean_Than_Green
      @Better_Clean_Than_Green 2 роки тому +20

      @@k1tsun386 Bottle opener?
      Germans will love that thing

    • @ZOVEnjoyer_
      @ZOVEnjoyer_ 2 роки тому +7

      @@GK-mr9ko rElIaBlE

    • @thefool1086
      @thefool1086 2 роки тому

      @@ZOVEnjoyer_ yes

  • @imperialshocker2182
    @imperialshocker2182 2 роки тому +567

    We definitely need a part 2 . Who's with me .

    • @christopherdempsey3878
      @christopherdempsey3878 2 роки тому +4

      I am!

    • @West_Coast_Mainline
      @West_Coast_Mainline 2 роки тому +14

      A part two where it’s just the stuff the soviets stole from finland

    • @anthonyprentice8741
      @anthonyprentice8741 2 роки тому +2

      🙋🏾‍♂️

    • @resonancebarracuda478
      @resonancebarracuda478 2 роки тому +5

      He forgot to mention the Type 56 assault rifle, Type 56 semi automatic rifle, Hakim semi automatic rifle, Hanyang 88 bolt action rifle, Vz 58 assault rifle m56 SMG and the K 50 SMG.

    • @ZoltanMarossy
      @ZoltanMarossy 2 роки тому +1

      Yup

  • @lucianoosorio5942
    @lucianoosorio5942 2 роки тому +32

    “I need guns, lots of guns.” John Wick

  • @hujack3747
    @hujack3747 Рік тому +4

    CQ is only for export, and is not a project of the Chinese military. The PLA did have AK-47 license and develop their own variants, but today they are using QBZ-95 and QBZ-191, all developed by themselves.

  • @Jimmy-gd5ho
    @Jimmy-gd5ho 2 роки тому +72

    Wait what about the Springfield 1903???? They ended up paying Mauser royalties for copying it

    • @monarch3335
      @monarch3335 2 роки тому +16

      It takes a Bolt Action Rifle enthusiast to recognize the similarities (in the bolt, mainly) and… unfortunately… there are very few of those left. But yeah the 1903 is basically an American Mauser chambered in 30-06.

    • @freedoomer2524
      @freedoomer2524 2 роки тому +1

      wasnt a copycat. America was paying royalties for the action

    • @FishKepr
      @FishKepr 2 роки тому +14

      @@freedoomer2524 Yes, but that was AFTER Mauser sued the US.

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 2 роки тому +1

      @@FishKepr A mistake in the US for not putting it in the peace treaty. They took the Aspirin trade mark but forgot the rifle.

    • @MRsolidcolor
      @MRsolidcolor 2 роки тому

      Springfield is kind of trash everything they have is a copy of something.. and its worse

  • @ed342
    @ed342 2 роки тому +203

    I wouldn't call the Galil a shameless copycat, it's one of the best AK derivatives ever made

    • @MRtapio5
      @MRtapio5 2 роки тому +32

      But it is a copy of rk62

    • @AllTheSameSeam
      @AllTheSameSeam 2 роки тому +40

      @@MRtapio5 A good copy at that

    • @MRtapio5
      @MRtapio5 2 роки тому +18

      @@AllTheSameSeam FAX. Just not as good as rk62😏

    • @AllTheSameSeam
      @AllTheSameSeam 2 роки тому +3

      @@MRtapio5 True true, But it's good in it's own little way 😊

    • @EllaTheKea
      @EllaTheKea 2 роки тому +4

      @@MRtapio5 Which is a copy of an AK iirc

  • @noahowenst
    @noahowenst 2 роки тому +76

    Fun fact, his real surname was Yisrael Balashnikov, and because he was a gun inventor, he felt he needed to change his name because of Mikhail Kalashnikov.

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j 2 роки тому +1

      How did they make that mistake?

    • @noahowenst
      @noahowenst 2 роки тому

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j probably just an error in research. Yisrael used to live in Palestine (pre-israel) and the Gaza Strip I think. Don’t take me up on that though

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 2 роки тому +6

      No, he was born in the Mandatory Palestine in 1923.

    • @noahowenst
      @noahowenst 2 роки тому +9

      @@okaro6595 two conflicting reports seem to be either that he’s born In Palestine or Ukraine. So my guess is he was born in Mandatory Palestine but had Ukrainian/Russian parents- ancestry

    • @noahowenst
      @noahowenst 2 роки тому +5

      @@okaro6595 thank you by the way. I don’t want to be spreading misinformation

  • @yzj6-859
    @yzj6-859 2 роки тому +103

    During my service in the Taiwanese army, I used a T-74 machine gun. His disassembly method is very similar to FN's MAG machine gun, and the appearance is the same. FN is also said to have filed a lawsuit against the manufacturer of the T-74 machine gun.

    • @qinxianghou885
      @qinxianghou885 2 роки тому

      武统的时候记得投降❤

    • @yzj6-859
      @yzj6-859 2 роки тому

      @@qinxianghou885 先來再說

    • @qinxianghou885
      @qinxianghou885 2 роки тому +1

      那可不 得先提醒到位 看你美帝主子到时候可会救你🥰🥰🥰

    • @yzj6-859
      @yzj6-859 2 роки тому

      @@qinxianghou885 你不來你要怎麼統?

    • @贾斯科特
      @贾斯科特 2 роки тому +1

      @@qinxianghou885 嘿,老兄,人家没说关于大陆和台湾的言论,你这样你这样有点像无脑粉红

  • @CrungleFunk
    @CrungleFunk 2 роки тому +135

    I kinda love how those Yugoslavian inventors won a patent case with the argument; “Oh, your mad because we’re copying your design?! You remember that war not too long back…?”

    • @themenacingpenguin.7152
      @themenacingpenguin.7152 2 роки тому +1

      I'd just say what you gonna do about it?

    • @TheMock5000
      @TheMock5000 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@themenacingpenguin.7152 Invade again

    • @milosnikolic7842
      @milosnikolic7842 Рік тому +2

      @@TheMock5000 LoL Yugoslavia would kick Germany's as* easy in those days, well up until the brakeaway and civil war. And that's a fact

    • @Schwachsinnn
      @Schwachsinnn Рік тому +4

      @@milosnikolic7842 Could be true but it surely would have not have been a walkover. True Germany got immensly demilitarilised after ww2, but both parts of Germany were actually remilitarised and being prepared to end up at the front (cold war soviet block vs western block) in case of an upcoming war. Thus both armies were always at the ready.

    • @milosnikolic7842
      @milosnikolic7842 Рік тому

      @@Schwachsinnn I hope everyone got this comment in a more of comical way than a true statement. Well, that was a thing I was referring to so the West side had Allies armies, and East side had the Soviet army. But none of those were German. So in theory. But that being said Yugoslavia was no pushover at all

  • @finkelooper2736
    @finkelooper2736 2 роки тому +36

    Germany: creates MP 18
    Britain: creates Sten gun by copying MP 18
    Germany: creates MP 3008 by copying Sten Gun

    • @tapferer.Toaster
      @tapferer.Toaster 2 роки тому +3

      I would like to add that the M98 was also ,,copied‘‘ and manufactured by the Americans without a license. The Springfield M1903 is very Simulator to the m98 System.
      well, both sides were repeatedly inspired by their opponents, which is somehow paradoxical

    • @highfive4203
      @highfive4203 5 місяців тому

      ​@@tapferer.Toasterit is not just very simular to the G98, it's a shameless copy. 99% of this gun is just straight up copied.

  • @zapityzapzap
    @zapityzapzap 2 роки тому +100

    Mauser filed a lawsuit (and subsequently won) against the Springfield Armory claiming the M1903 (the US's primary battle rifle until it's replacement by the M1 Garand) was a copy of the Model 1898 (which would be Germany's primary battle rifle in one shape or another through WWII). Unfortunately for Mauser, WWI broke out before they received awarded compensation from the US.
    Also worth noting, the US M60 machine gun is mostly the love child of the MG42 and FG42. However, it was noted by the the US military in 1974 that the successor to the MG42 (the MG3) was in fact a far superior and more reliable design (one which share a high level of parts interchangeability with the original 42) to the M60. The MG42 is an OG legend and still one of the finest fire support weapons ever fielded and a design that clearly works.
    Another blatantly copied MG design is that of the Maxim Machine Gun, which first came to be in 1884 (though most copies are licensed). Fun fact, both the MG42 and Maxim can be found in use in Ukraine today.

    • @daoss4620
      @daoss4620 2 роки тому

      Don't forget Besa HMG and Bren lmg but these were legal copies made by Czechoslovakia for Brits.

    • @jessestreet2549
      @jessestreet2549 2 роки тому +1

      After WW1 Mauser was paid back royalties by Springfield or the government. Read it a long time ago and memory is fuzzy.

    • @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
      @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 роки тому +1

      Spanish MG81 is copied MG42

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 роки тому

      @@daoss4620 This video is about unliscensed copies.

    • @randomtexanguy9563
      @randomtexanguy9563 2 роки тому +1

      @@jessestreet2549 during ww1, the USA paid germany royalties for the springfield's mauser design

  • @zachester
    @zachester Рік тому +88

    The Israeli IMI Galil is how a copy really should be; it didn't just copy verbatim the AK-47 or make a cheaper version of it but instead modified the weapon to better suit their needs and improve the overall performance of the weapon system. The rest were just shameless copies or done in desperations.

    • @mattynek2
      @mattynek2 Рік тому +9

      With AKs, it's a really unique situation. Almost feels like the AK is a "royalty free" gun

    • @myfaceismyshield5963
      @myfaceismyshield5963 Рік тому +5

      Well the Galil wasn't even based on the AK, since it was based on a rifle that was already an entirely separate gun that was only manufactured around the design of an AK... the RK62 is a much better gun compared to the AK47 it was copied and enhanced from. I've shot both (never shot a Galil though), and the Galil is even further from the AK. So it's definitely much more than a copy, even if the basic mechanisms and the silhouette are the same.

    • @becauselifts9913
      @becauselifts9913 Рік тому

      @@myfaceismyshield5963 Yep. Less a "copy" and more a generational improvement over the AK, with a specific goal to improve it.

    • @mickkrever4084
      @mickkrever4084 Рік тому

      *after they stole gunpowder they still have audacity to come back and bashing China*

    • @CunnyMuncher
      @CunnyMuncher Рік тому +1

      @@myfaceismyshield5963 Israelis are good at taking other culture's things, to be fair.

  • @princessmarlena1359
    @princessmarlena1359 2 роки тому +122

    My dad has a Romanian AK-47, full automatic (converted into a semi/full auto select fire pre ‘68), legally registered with the Department of the Treasury. He tested it out prior to having to store it outside of California in the late 1980s when anti-gun fever contaminated the state. It fires pretty well, even now when he tested it again in his new home state where it is legal.

  • @JohnSmith-xv2ob
    @JohnSmith-xv2ob 2 роки тому +70

    Fun fact about the Galil; there was a bottle opener built into the bottom of the handguard. I don't remember if it was INTENDED to be a bottle opener but it quickly earned the reputation for being the rifle that openly promoted cracking a cold one with Ishmael and Yoseph after a long day of stomping basically everyone next door to you.

    • @n.mcneil4066
      @n.mcneil4066 2 роки тому +6

      Speaking of bottle openers, many Ford vehicles built in the early 50's had a bottle opener on the back of the clamp that secured the steering column to the dash. I don't think Ford intended it but it sure came in handy.

    • @JohnSmith-xv2ob
      @JohnSmith-xv2ob 2 роки тому +1

      @@n.mcneil4066 Neat! Nothing better than a car that endorses driving under the influence 😂

    • @fishingthelist4017
      @fishingthelist4017 2 роки тому +3

      @@n.mcneil4066 we always used the lower hinge to the driver's door.

    • @BananaRama1312
      @BananaRama1312 2 роки тому +1

      Lol Imagine needing a bottle Opener to crack Open a cold one 😂

    • @JohnSmith-xv2ob
      @JohnSmith-xv2ob 2 роки тому

      @@BananaRama1312 Imagine low-key bragging about the obvious fact that you don't technically need a bottle opener and you can do it with three times as much difficulty by using something else.

  • @lightninglj
    @lightninglj 2 роки тому +89

    I remember hearing some of the old timers talk about how you can just throw a sten smg in a room and it would just fire until it runs out of ammo, the trigger was that sensitive

    • @richardlooch2109
      @richardlooch2109 2 роки тому +8

      you an uzi can do that too :D best way to clear a room.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 2 роки тому +3

      Grenade mode. Star Trek phasers do same, put them in overload and they become a grenade.

    • @dustinandtarynwolfe5540
      @dustinandtarynwolfe5540 2 роки тому +3

      I thought you said a sten mag at first. Might have been funnier that way. Didn't lose any of its accuracy anyway.

    • @nathankindle282
      @nathankindle282 2 роки тому +4

      If it fired at all. The Sten was notorious for being unreliable.

  • @andrewmontgomery5621
    @andrewmontgomery5621 2 роки тому +22

    As Bumblebee said in Transformers: Age of Extinction:"I hate cheap knock offs!"

  • @_Abjuranax_
    @_Abjuranax_ 2 роки тому +162

    The MG-42 could achieve its high rate of fire because it incorporated ball bearings into its slide mechanism. The U.S. M-60 MG was a virtual copy of its design after the war, but it did not include the ball bearings, relying on more standard bushing designs for its operations. But the new Chinese fighter is said to be a near clone of our new F-17s, so it's good that we both get to play with our new toys in our own backyards.

    • @Seb-Storm
      @Seb-Storm 2 роки тому +19

      The m60 only copied the top cover lift thing idea from the mg42 but the mechanism is more similar to the fg42

    • @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
      @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 роки тому

      MG 8?

    • @JM-ru7nl
      @JM-ru7nl 2 роки тому +10

      Old Chinese fighters (such as J-10, J-15 series) inherits the Russian MiGs and Sukhoi DNA. However the new stealth J-20 is a powerful domestically designed and built jet. Even though it looks like the F-22 Raptor, almost same specs as F-22, but that rumour of it being a copy of the Raptor is false. The J-20 was actually designed and planned to counter F-22 should the situation arise, therefore it has mostly almost-same specs as F-22. Take a look at Korea's new KF-21, it looks so much like the F-35 jets, and even though it has mostly the same specs as F-35 too, it is surely not a copy of F-35

    • @R3GARnator
      @R3GARnator 2 роки тому

      The entire Chinese air fleet are copied from other countries.

    • @foxtrotnine
      @foxtrotnine 2 роки тому +7

      F-17?

  • @taco-bellleftovers1816
    @taco-bellleftovers1816 2 роки тому +10

    "Can we have M-16?"
    "We have M-16 at home"
    M-16 at home: 12:11

  • @JF-xq6fr
    @JF-xq6fr Рік тому +23

    My Galil 392 ARM is extremely accurate and of course 100% reliable. It is however extremely 'over-gassed', but can be cured with aftermarket parts. I do wish it had a different twist rate than its 1:12". My NORINCO 1911A1 is a very fine pistol. I can not recall a malfunction EVER; in fact it feeds empty cases and is very accurate with a great trigger. The steel is supposedly 5100 series, which is a better spec than any other maker of this pistol... Even has a fully chromed barrel/chamber and all parts are milled and forged. Good enough of a pistol that it is only one of three or four brands that Wilson will build upon. Will also add NORINCO 5.56 M193 ball ammo is very good. I ran it over a chronograph and its speed is on point, is clean and very effective. Cases reload well, but I do notice some variance in the extractor cut, but so far has been no big deal.

  • @cascadianrangers728
    @cascadianrangers728 2 роки тому +344

    One of my favorite stories about copying weapons design is that the first Soviet nuke was such a close copy of an American design that they actually replicated some minor errors in a couple of mechanical and electrical components that the US later ironed out in serial production

    • @okipullup3367
      @okipullup3367 2 роки тому +17

      That only one copied weapon that isn’t trash

    • @DMlTREl
      @DMlTREl 2 роки тому +15

      Do you really want to blame country which just want to have nuclear shield?

    • @hahaper2037
      @hahaper2037 2 роки тому +18

      Even funnier is that the USSR made some changes in the design of the nuclear bomb using spies from the UK and American equipment (participated in the Manhattan Project)

    • @БудаМарактаев
      @БудаМарактаев 2 роки тому +15

      А что хорошего в ядерной монополии США?

    • @rajaye5792
      @rajaye5792 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/OdjEtwcnFg0/v-deo.html

  • @jamesliu8095
    @jamesliu8095 2 роки тому +82

    I've noticed an animation error, that sten is firing from the closed bolt.

    • @edennguyen7766
      @edennguyen7766 2 роки тому +14

      That's the same stinker that CoD Vanguard made

    • @jcn268
      @jcn268 2 роки тому +9

      Another animation error was when it shows a Chinese soldier holding the norinco tho it said not a single was one used ont he armed forces 🤔

    • @spartanshadow90oficial
      @spartanshadow90oficial 2 роки тому +3

      bro it's a animation, stop being complaining about details

    • @ME-ci8zi
      @ME-ci8zi 2 роки тому +1

      Not to mention the random welding on the norinco bolt carrier...

  • @2011Oly
    @2011Oly 2 роки тому +89

    Fun fact: the sten was so cheap to make, the Belgian resistance made them in bike shops.

    • @themenacingpenguin.7152
      @themenacingpenguin.7152 2 роки тому +1

      The Sten is the dollar store of the gun world.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 2 роки тому +3

      The Lutty before the Lutty?

    • @perto1970
      @perto1970 Рік тому +1

      I kind of wonder if that is not a urban legend, because there is a story about the Swedish K that it could be manufactured in bike factorys.

  • @megaxtrime3144
    @megaxtrime3144 Рік тому +57

    Ironically the German MP3008 though a copy of the sten, was also a copy of the German MP28 as that's where the sten was originally copied from

    • @KarinExMachina
      @KarinExMachina Рік тому +6

      Indeed so I wouldn't call it a copy

    • @mdj.6179
      @mdj.6179 Рік тому +2

      Military weapons have been copied almost since the beginning of war. Rome copied the Celtic style of sword...

    • @MrSlitskirts
      @MrSlitskirts Рік тому +1

      Yes, the Lanchester was the British 'version' of the German MP28 from which as you mentioned the Sten was copied from in certain design areas. This was due to the British not having any design experience making SMG's, so they studied captured German MP38's pressed into service as the Lanchester (primarily used by the Royal Navy) in order to learn how to make one under wartime conditions. Thats also likely why (as mentioned) the Sten had a side mounted magazine because the German MP38/British Lanchester did too.

    • @LeanBackNplay
      @LeanBackNplay Рік тому +2

      Washington and New York are innovative names lol

  • @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
    @Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 роки тому +8

    *slams desk* "Identity theft isn't a joke, Jim! Millions of families suffer every year!"

  • @amywelham3625
    @amywelham3625 2 роки тому +722

    I hope that you can see this I really like your videos

  • @DonPatrono
    @DonPatrono 2 роки тому +38

    little note on the CQ311A (the civilian-sale variant of the CQ311): given the absurt ITAR export fees compounded to the already expensive Italian import fees for firearms, it was pretty common in Italy to buy a CQ311A and then buy aftermarket accessories like handguard, pistol grip, stock etc. to mock them up into an actual AR15. Mainly because you could buy a Norinco CQ for 300-400€, whereas even the cheapest PSA/Anderson AR would cost around 1500 to 3000€ due to the difficulty of procuring one.

    • @callumdonington2227
      @callumdonington2227 2 роки тому +7

      They were pretty popular in Canada as well, Norinco has quite the following here

    • @schrodingersgat4344
      @schrodingersgat4344 2 роки тому +2

      We don't get Chinese guns or ammo anymore, here in The States. Except for some shotguns.

    • @jacobzehner2004
      @jacobzehner2004 2 роки тому

      China can’t stop copying weapons because they are paranoid of being invaded again.

    • @leileijoker8465
      @leileijoker8465 2 роки тому +4

      Wow, PSA/Anderson only cost $3-400 here in the states when they're on sale. I wish we didn't ban the Chinese imports.

    • @DonPatrono
      @DonPatrono 2 роки тому +1

      @@leileijoker8465 yeah, but sadly, as I said, once you compound US export fees, Italy's import/serialization/registration fees, and distributor's fees, a high-tier AR15 would end up costing almost twice as much, and a cheap one would end up being four or five times the price....which is why the vast majority of ARs you see here are chinese SDMs and Norincos, or EU-made Schmeissers, Hammerli and Oberland Arms, ADCs made in Italy, and very rarely some military surpluses from other countries

  • @probablynotleo4340
    @probablynotleo4340 6 місяців тому +10

    Every gun that starts with "Type"

  • @ndhart3213
    @ndhart3213 2 роки тому +87

    There is also the Lancaster SMG, which was a British copy of the German MP28 SMG.

    • @fernandoruizpou6905
      @fernandoruizpou6905 2 роки тому +1

      MP28?

    • @DefunctYompelvert
      @DefunctYompelvert 2 роки тому +7

      The MP28 was an improved MP18 so basically the first German SMG of ww1 is related to the last German smg of WW2

    • @Mimonbaraka98
      @Mimonbaraka98 2 роки тому +5

      Wast the sten based on the lancaster ^^?

    • @zjanez2868
      @zjanez2868 2 роки тому +2

      @@fernandoruizpou6905 MP18 but with a box mag instead of the luger drum(i think it also had slighly more capacity)
      the lanchester was a copy of that
      which was later simplified to make the sten
      which was than copied and further simplified(removed mag swivel machanism, removed semi auto) by the germans

    • @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
      @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 роки тому +1

      Not Burt Lancaster

  • @josiahmeece3381
    @josiahmeece3381 2 роки тому +28

    These animations keep getting better and better! I love the M16 function check you guys put in. Keep it up!!

  • @n.a.4292
    @n.a.4292 2 роки тому +72

    Norinco reproductions are actually very good products: AR15 clones aside, their Winchester 1897 shotgun repro is very good.
    Historically speaking, the Chinese made MP18s are way more significant: they were used to fight the Japanese invasion, and the Japanese Army itself captured and used them because they pretty much lacked any officially adopted SMG (the Type 100 was extremely rare)

    • @alexanderl.6207
      @alexanderl.6207 2 роки тому

      If norinco is so good like you say then why is it banned where i live

    • @n.a.4292
      @n.a.4292 2 роки тому +25

      @@alexanderl.6207Easy, politics.
      If Norinco repros weren't valid, people would not buy them with or without a ban.
      Also consider this, the pc/phone you are using probably has components made in China. Why not banning them as well?

    • @emberfist8347
      @emberfist8347 2 роки тому +9

      @@alexanderl.6207 Because of Bill Clinton.

    • @crazychinese7315
      @crazychinese7315 2 роки тому +7

      @@alexanderl.6207 you actually answered your own questions

    • @-Vishal-of3he
      @-Vishal-of3he 2 роки тому +2

      Yea whatever we understand that you are Chinese

  • @nolanfarris1679
    @nolanfarris1679 2 роки тому +32

    It’s so cool to see the animation and movement become so much more realistic. It’s a small detail but it really looks nice!

  • @beniaminorzechowski9913
    @beniaminorzechowski9913 2 роки тому +37

    Apparently Israeli women weren’t allowed to serve in frontline units back then.
    This means that showing Israeli female soldiers in combat is technically innacuarate

    • @nursestoyland
      @nursestoyland 2 роки тому +1

      @GordonRamsey34 I’m not sure about support, but I do think they didn’t allow women in combat roles

    • @beniaminorzechowski9913
      @beniaminorzechowski9913 2 роки тому +5

      @GordonRamsey34 reserve and logistics units only . No frontline troops until the 1990s

  • @Vlad-xx8xc
    @Vlad-xx8xc 2 роки тому +29

    Fun fact: AK-47 is basically an upside-down copycat of M1 Garand.

    • @colin4tor781
      @colin4tor781 2 роки тому +10

      Thats more of a myth. The Ak is far more similar to the STG44 than the Garande.

    • @Vlad-xx8xc
      @Vlad-xx8xc 2 роки тому +17

      @@colin4tor781 Only the looks are simlair. StG44 is mechanically more simlair to weapons like Vz 58, SKS, FN FAL or SVT-40. AK's interiors resemble those of a Garand (rotating bolt, long stroke piston gas system and trigger mechanism).
      Edit: All contemporary assault rifles are somehow simlair to the StG44, by the way.

    • @user-ri5oc5rw5b
      @user-ri5oc5rw5b 2 роки тому

      No it's not you dipsh- *OOOOH OOOOHHH OOOOOH OOOHH MY GOD!!!!!*

    • @numbsliwa
      @numbsliwa 2 роки тому +1

      @@user-ri5oc5rw5b relax. I can hear that all the time from people that saw weapons only in TV or video games.

    • @Juicewski2
      @Juicewski2 2 роки тому

      @@colin4tor781 Let Papa Kalashnikov educate you about the subject.
      ua-cam.com/video/J4l33puWET0/v-deo.html

  • @Thomas-ge5fe
    @Thomas-ge5fe 2 роки тому +50

    Everybody is talking about the guns but can we please appreciate how absolutely awesome the animations are in this video?! The different angles, shadings and the small details like the rotating bullets at 5:58 are absolutely amazing. Great work!

    • @gn4128
      @gn4128 2 роки тому +9

      animations have some mistakes, like smgs firing from closed bolt, so i would not call animations good

    • @jayst
      @jayst 2 роки тому +3

      I agree. I really love the animations and it’s relatively simple style. Keeps me focused lol

    • @Blackguineapig
      @Blackguineapig 2 роки тому +3

      @@gn4128 yep some pretty poor detail in how things operate - what's going on with the RK62?...

  • @revan7383
    @revan7383 2 роки тому +7

    Fun fact about the galil, it has another variant in 7.62 nato (.308) and a modernized vatiant called the galil ACE in 7.62 soviet

  • @muttipi
    @muttipi 2 роки тому +27

    i love the thumbnail for this video because as we all know the M16 was famously known for it’s reliability and quality in extreme conditions during its early outings.

    • @Jrob992
      @Jrob992 2 роки тому +2

      @Adam Korzeniowski I was gonna say the same. Huge misconception that even I didn’t know about until recently

    • @vanja2565
      @vanja2565 2 роки тому +1

      @Adam Korzeniowski people like to blame it on ammunition, but that's the half of the story, mags were trash as well, recievers were also weak, due to inexpiriance with aluminium.

    • @neunic1
      @neunic1 2 роки тому +2

      The powder used in the 5.56 round at the time was a Smokeless Powder.. it was not black powder. Lots of different kinds of Smokeless Powder with high and low burn rates as well as single and double base powder's.

    • @alexanderl.6207
      @alexanderl.6207 2 роки тому

      The vietnam M16 didnt need cleaning it was the ammo that caused it to jam

    • @redvirknight9430
      @redvirknight9430 2 роки тому

      The original m16a1s actually perform very well given cleaning and correct ammo; the army ordinance department purposely sabotaged the weapon with among other things, improper ammo.

  • @Grasyl
    @Grasyl 2 роки тому +43

    1:49 The Sten is a simplified version of the Lanchester SMG a copy of the German Bergman MP18/1.

    • @flip849
      @flip849 2 роки тому +2

      And the sten copied the mp40 magazine

    • @okaro6595
      @okaro6595 2 роки тому +4

      MP28/II actually, MP28, Lanchester and Sten were selective fire. MP-18 and MP-38/40 were not.

    • @Grasyl
      @Grasyl 2 роки тому

      @@okaro6595 Thanks

    • @TheLoraxshadenough
      @TheLoraxshadenough 2 роки тому +2

      The Germans literally copied their own homework they forgot about

  • @ShingoKirishima1997
    @ShingoKirishima1997 2 роки тому +31

    I'm Mexican, and I'm wondering why not mention the FX-05 Xiuhcoatl. It may have been dismissed by H&K themselves as not a direct clone of their G36 platform, but I still would have loved to see it mentioned

    • @theoneandonlydetraebean8286
      @theoneandonlydetraebean8286 2 роки тому +4

      On the outside it has a high resemblance to the g36, but from what I understand it's internal parts are different in function design

    • @ShingoKirishima1997
      @ShingoKirishima1997 2 роки тому +5

      @@theoneandonlydetraebean8286 Yep. Still would have loved a mention on the weapon though. They just used the G36 design mostly since that is what the Mexican military primarily used up to that point. G36 Rifles

    • @SnausageKing
      @SnausageKing 2 роки тому

      That’s a great story though, has anyone covered it on UA-cam?

    • @mrasbestos9127
      @mrasbestos9127 2 роки тому

      Yeah, the FX-05 is a pretty damn good gun

  • @bridgewatercontract1
    @bridgewatercontract1 2 роки тому +6

    Did you forget about the M 60 MG 42 copy
    and the Springfield clone of the Mauser

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment 2 роки тому +8

    Comment section: *Forget most part of this video except the part where "China" is mentioned*

  • @brendasg155
    @brendasg155 2 роки тому +28

    The Chinese also made a copy of the sten. The one they based it on had a dent in the receiver, thinking this was part of the design they put a dent in the same place on their copies

  • @MatthewSmith-to1hz
    @MatthewSmith-to1hz 2 роки тому +9

    next video Idea:
    Douglas Monroe, the first and only U.S. Guardsman to be awarded the Medal of Honor

  • @dingo5208
    @dingo5208 2 роки тому +6

    I have a Norinco M4 and P226 clones. Great shooters, super accurate and a fair price. I shoot better with my clones than the M4 and P226 I use at work in the military. I even installed sig springs and an SRT into my clone.

  • @Firstname137
    @Firstname137 2 роки тому +34

    Some of my family bought two of those Chinese Ar's several years ago at a gun show, for about 500 each.
    I wouldn't recommend them, they heat up fast and you can feel it in the hand guard, the ones they get had a really thin piece of aluminum under there , very loud and they had issues with the triggers .
    Besides the lower receivers, they replaced everything on them.
    They bought them because of the price but have invested about the same amount a regular AR would have cost

    • @kitsunehistory
      @kitsunehistory 2 роки тому

      From what I read at /k/, it's almost like what you said. Except that with proper tweaking and modification, you can fix that heat up handguard with 3rd party handguard which have better material.
      But yeah, wouldn't recommend it. i consider Norinco AR as "Baby's First AR".

    • @1911Zoey
      @1911Zoey 2 роки тому +11

      "You get what you pay for" rings true everyday

    • @sinoroman
      @sinoroman 2 роки тому +1

      they are more easily massproduced, so for china, i think if the gun cannot be used at the time, they just switch it

    • @roninkraut6873
      @roninkraut6873 2 роки тому

      A couple of years ago I bought a Ruger AR for 400 bucks. I guess “a couple of years ago” varies widely in actual years..

    • @Firstname137
      @Firstname137 2 роки тому

      @@roninkraut6873 it was around maybe 8 or 9 years ago I want to say.

  • @nihilism2004
    @nihilism2004 2 роки тому +4

    Any gun manufacturer: *Produces a nice firearm*
    Norinco: *It's free real estate*

  • @Igyzone
    @Igyzone 2 роки тому +17

    The Japanese during WW2 studied captured Garands and made their own "Type 4."

    • @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401
      @azimisyauqieabdulwahab9401 2 роки тому

      A Japanese M1 Garand

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 2 роки тому

      Before that, they did had the Czech ZH29 copy, put on trial in the 30's but never got adopted. You look for it in Forgotten Weapons.

  • @franklekwan5860
    @franklekwan5860 Рік тому +3

    Copying is different from faking. Faking is a shame but I think copying or copycat is not a shame at all. In fact, it is a very importing aspect of invention or creation. I believe many people, or companies or some countries, have been "copying" some kind of machines. For example, Nikon and Canon were "copying" Leica, everyone are copying the idea of a Tank from the British and etc. The important thing is, most of the time "copycats" are not only copying, they also improve the new product in some way. Weather it is better quality or less cost, or anything, it can still be consider some kind of invention or creation.

  • @tikalthewhimsicott2736
    @tikalthewhimsicott2736 2 роки тому +115

    If you ever make a part 2 you should talk about the Rogak P18. It's a copy of a prototype model of the Steyr GB.

    • @corvoattano4777
      @corvoattano4777 2 роки тому

      Who makes it?

    • @metallicarchaea1820
      @metallicarchaea1820 2 роки тому +1

      @@corvoattano4777 Rogak. In this particular case, it isn't another country's arsenal copying another's military intellectual property. It was a private organization copying a handgun for the civilian market. The Steyr GB ultimately lost out to the Glock 19 aka the P-80 in Austrian Military service.

    • @FuckTard-dd1ee
      @FuckTard-dd1ee 2 роки тому

      @@metallicarchaea1820 }:‑):-P:-P

    • @rps215
      @rps215 2 роки тому +1

      Some ideas:
      - Type 56 (AK-47/AKM)
      - the other Type 56 (SKS)
      - Smith & Wesson M76 (Carl Gustaf M/45) - Yes, the USA can be guilty of such thing as well

    • @corvoattano4777
      @corvoattano4777 2 роки тому +3

      @@rps215 type 56 was a licemse production bro

  • @Necrodermis
    @Necrodermis 2 роки тому +39

    for me the most shameless copy has to be the Japanese Garand copy known as the type 4.

    • @Joshua_N-A
      @Joshua_N-A 2 роки тому +5

      IJ obtained the Czech ZH-29 and made a copy of it by Tokyo Gas and Electric. Forgotten Weapons has it in details. The rifle was put to trial in the 30's but never adopted by Japan so Japan stuck with variations of Arisaka throughout most of the war.

    • @xiaodai125
      @xiaodai125 2 роки тому

      @@Joshua_N-A was it because of the IJ infantry doctrine was sharpshooting?

    • @infinitsai
      @infinitsai 2 роки тому +1

      @@xiaodai125 i heard that its because the rifle's accuracy suffered after converting to japanese cartridges.

    • @jacobzehner2004
      @jacobzehner2004 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah but it was also called the type 5 it also had the clips from the garand and changed it to use 7.7 x 58mm Arisaka it’s interesting but never saw combat parts for 250 were to be made but only 125 were made.

  • @schrodingersgat4344
    @schrodingersgat4344 2 роки тому +14

    My Galil is a hybrid.
    It was built in Israel, sold to a Central American Government, {rode hard and put away wet} then parted out when they were done with it.
    Then a company with a (less than) STELLAR reputation acquired the parts. The first models had issues. Including the name "Galil".
    IWI was, um... not happy.
    They sued. The type was renamed and some features altered.
    That's how my "Golani Sporter" came to be.
    Mine is tip top. A previous owner was even kind enough to replace the night sights.

  • @Hardwire2345
    @Hardwire2345 Рік тому +2

    Other countries: make a gun
    China: Write that down! Write that down!

  • @ZP1993
    @ZP1993 2 роки тому +17

    Many copycat weapons have been designed during wars,when armies were in need of weapons. For example,during the Yugoslav wars,Slovenia made MGV176 which was a copy of the American 180 SMG,and Croatia made a variety of defferent guns,both the original designs and copies of other guns (Ero was a copy of Uzi, Jelen was a copy of PPSH, APS95 was a copy of the Galil/AK, etc.)

  • @kapsyvoneisenberg8735
    @kapsyvoneisenberg8735 2 роки тому +8

    I have been following this channel almost since its beggining. But dawn, the animation has gotten soo good that it true pleasure for the eyes. The rotation of the magazine on the STEN, the first person views and the cutout part at the galil and others gave me pure joy. All I can say is to thank you.

  • @zanplesec3836
    @zanplesec3836 2 роки тому +25

    Fun fact in the Slovenian military we still have about 1000-2000 of M53 in the reserves

  • @TheRealFlinxy
    @TheRealFlinxy Рік тому +2

    3:46 aint no way walter joined the WW2 german club

  • @williamlhuillier6663
    @williamlhuillier6663 2 роки тому +19

    The animation quality has gotten really good since I started watching some years ago. Keep up the good work!

  • @cantingvenus2
    @cantingvenus2 2 роки тому +13

    Your videos have improved drastically over the old ones and I love it. Keep it up guys.

  • @viljami4363
    @viljami4363 2 роки тому +53

    Its always nice to see Finland mentioned somewhere, didn't even know that the galil was based of the rk62

    • @goodlife6277
      @goodlife6277 2 роки тому +1

      2 copy of AK...

    • @Comrade_Alex_228
      @Comrade_Alex_228 2 роки тому +1

      4 copy of AK…

    • @traktori2888
      @traktori2888 2 роки тому

      Ak47 copy of stg44

    • @perto1970
      @perto1970 Рік тому

      Well...ak47 - rk62 - gaili - fnc80 - and that is how we in Sweden end up with ak5 :)

  • @mikemckinnon9826
    @mikemckinnon9826 Рік тому +2

    Actually there were three copies of the Sten submachine gun made by German gunmakers. The Burp Guns used by US tank crewmen that were given the appellation M3 Grease Gun was actually license built in China as was the CQ-311

  • @chaprandom8362
    @chaprandom8362 2 роки тому +20

    6:15 Hold On, Simple History you dropped the ball here the RK62 has a milled receiver as it was based on the AK-47 Type 3 which also had a milled receiver. You guys really need to fact check these more

    • @chaprandom8362
      @chaprandom8362 2 роки тому +4

      Also, the AKs being inacurate is an inacurate statement by itself mainly based on Nato forces experience in the middle east mainly Afganistan where the enemy was poorly trained and the rifles abused. Basically regurgitated fudd lore.

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant 2 роки тому +6

      @@chaprandom8362
      Umm, there are accurate AKs, but there are millions of craptastic shitburger deluxe AKs in existence... the stereotype holds true for many reasons way beyond localized NATO opinions. It has everything to do with manufacturing quality, which varies immensely.
      AK Operators Union shoots some incredibly accurate variants... but also shows how the cheaper versions fail spectacularly. So, depending on who's talking AKs are the absolute best, most reliable firearm ever made, and also the sloppiest, worst guns ever built. (Khyber Pass Krinks...)
      The funny part is both statements are true.

    • @KyanoReal
      @KyanoReal 2 роки тому

      They dropped the ball on animating reloads also. They just don't function like they've done in this video.

    • @mrkhainuui
      @mrkhainuui 2 роки тому

      Kiitän.

    • @d.i.m.eproductions6925
      @d.i.m.eproductions6925 2 роки тому +1

      Still better than the history channel

  • @predetor911
    @predetor911 2 роки тому +28

    The AK-47 has so many copies in many countries I’m surprised you didn’t mention them all.

    • @franznarf
      @franznarf 2 роки тому +2

      AK copy of the STG

    • @ShR1000
      @ShR1000 2 роки тому +1

      ... and the most notorious of them being the chinese copy of ak-47.

    • @josephbarca2853
      @josephbarca2853 2 роки тому +4

      @@franznarf the ak isn’t a copy of the stg44

    • @robertdawson8522
      @robertdawson8522 2 роки тому

      Joseph yes it is

    • @KampucheanDemon
      @KampucheanDemon 2 роки тому +3

      @@robertdawson8522 not a copy, it took designs but the internals are way different

  • @ethanquarles9811
    @ethanquarles9811 2 роки тому +7

    12:45 “and is a direct clone of Colt’s AR-15 platform.” This may be a bit nit picky but the the AR in AR-15/10 stands for the Armalite firearms company. They made the AR-15/10 then the AR-10 was adopted and adapted for military use until the US Military at the last minute decided to swap to the 5.56. Then the AR-15 was adapted into the M4. The contracts for the M16/M4 were then won by Colt.

    • @wvance0316
      @wvance0316 2 роки тому +3

      this is the comment I was looking for. AR doesn't mean assault rifle but we have the politicians and media to blame for that. I get the creators were trying to add other similar designs to enhance their video but it just showed lack of knowledge when they called it Colt's civilian variant the AR-15.

    • @ethanquarles9811
      @ethanquarles9811 2 роки тому

      @@wvance0316 Yeah and like politicians they didn't understand that the AR-15 and AR-10 were designed from the ground up as civilian rifles. The M-16 and the M4 were redesigned to sustain full auto fire.

  • @joindoh2724
    @joindoh2724 2 роки тому +1

    When I just getting into this hobby, I’m just a college student with part-time job, Norinco did good job let people like me can afford a firearm with calibre larger than .22.
    I owned the AR/SKS/P226 clone and I can say all of those made by low quality materials and finish looks like done by amateur. But after own those thing make me have motivation to work harder for finally own a real deal like colt or sig. good job Norinco

  • @anned8634
    @anned8634 2 роки тому +9

    I have a Chinese Norinco 1911 clone that I have found one part that was not a direct copy of the US 1911.
    The one part is the firing pin retainer and about 30 minutes with a file, and I was able to fit it.
    This 1911 clone has had over 3000 rounds through it and still works fine even though I have modified it with a 7 inch ported barrel and red dot sight.

    • @JF-xq6fr
      @JF-xq6fr Рік тому

      I think you will also find the grip bushings will not interchange - The threaded part for the grip frame is not the same, but the threads for the grip screws are the same as with any other 1911 clone. Love my NORINCO 1911A1 a bunch.

  • @Newdivide
    @Newdivide 2 роки тому +10

    The Chinese also copied the AK-47 as the type 56. It's license copy btw

    • @ryth-2401
      @ryth-2401 2 роки тому +5

      most of the eastern countries are licensed to manufacture ak or its variants.

    • @heliveruscalion9124
      @heliveruscalion9124 2 роки тому +2

      i believe this is for weapons that were copied without licensing agreements

    • @willisyang4711
      @willisyang4711 2 роки тому +4

      licensed manufacturer is different than copy without permission

  • @gnarliestknutt8907
    @gnarliestknutt8907 2 роки тому +8

    I love to see the constant improvement in quality of animations and videos compared to older ones. Been watching since 2017. Keep up the good work.

  • @NAVYPROUD34
    @NAVYPROUD34 Рік тому +1

    14:42 that looks identical to the GTA V Ammunation 😂

  • @bullet6177
    @bullet6177 2 роки тому +7

    From what I have heard what Germany did was convert a lot of Sten guns into MP 3008.

    • @RandomPerson-hd6wr
      @RandomPerson-hd6wr 2 роки тому

      THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO OUR CHILDREN!!! THEY ARE BUTCHERING THEIR BODY PARTS TO BE THE OPPOSITE GENDER!
      THIS MUST BE STOPPED

    • @senatorarmstrong7168
      @senatorarmstrong7168 2 роки тому +1

      @Snowy 🅥 f u

  • @mromero675
    @mromero675 2 роки тому +20

    The Springfield 1903 bolt assembly was a copy of the Mauser K98 butterfly head locking bolt. Mauser sued after the war and had a good case but lost due to the patent infringement being declared "war booty".

    • @Han-Solo459
      @Han-Solo459 2 роки тому

      The Springfield had much better range.

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx 2 роки тому

      Mauser won the law suit, but didn't receive any compensation due to the war breaking out.

    • @IstvanThree
      @IstvanThree 2 роки тому +1

      Nonono... America does not copy, it only _gets_ copied 😉

    • @grafdragon3033
      @grafdragon3033 2 роки тому

      For what I know the mosin nagant and the Lee Enfield are also copies of the Mauser K98

    • @thesayxx
      @thesayxx 2 роки тому

      @@grafdragon3033 nope, not even close. Mosin came a couple of years before the Mauser made their first magazine fed rifle. Mosins bolt is also made from multiple pieces whereas Mausers is single piece. The locking lugs are also different. Lee-Enfield is also a completely different design. Its bolt lock at the rear and use a helical locking lugs.

  • @august.xavier
    @august.xavier 2 роки тому +6

    I'd like to note that rather than Germans copying the Sten SMG for the MP3008, the brits copied in a series of SMGs, the German MP34 into for example the Lanchester SMG. Years of production led in the end for the cheap manufacture of the Sten.

  • @王月半-i9i
    @王月半-i9i Рік тому +2

    In fact, a little knowledge of history will tell you that when Chinese Norinco began producing the CQ series rifle, the international rights to Colt's M16 had already expired, and during the same period Bushmaster and Canada's Diemaco had unashamedly seized Colt's AR-15 production status. Another most important point is that in the 1980s, P.R.China and the United States were military allies and they jointly aided the Taliban in Afghanistan to fight the Soviet CCCP, the U.S. CIA paid P.R.China to copy all kinds of cheap free world weapons to aid the Taliban, which was the origin of the CQ rifle, so it is said that the CQ rifle was shamelessly copied by a group of history falsifiers as shamelessly as they modified the movie "Rambo III".

  • @SiPakRubah
    @SiPakRubah 2 роки тому +29

    AK-47 also being known as a very highly cloned weapon, but one of the clone, Zastava M70 assault rifle by the Yugoslavia, was considered the best AK, even though they're one of the illegal copy of the weapon

    • @d3203
      @d3203 2 роки тому +9

      Many easteuropean copies are considered better than the original. The eastgerman AKs are considered to be the best too, just like the Yugos.

    • @lucycarr6065
      @lucycarr6065 2 роки тому +6

      @@d3203 There seem to be a lot of different opinions on which AK is the best AK. I've heard a lot of people say the Chinese NHM90 is the best AK.

    • @stoegerstewie8351
      @stoegerstewie8351 2 роки тому +1

      East German is the best AK. Polish, Russian, Bulgarian, all better than Yugos.
      Zastava built M70s with more metal to be able to launch grenades. That does not mean its more reliable or ever lasting, it only means its heavier.

    • @AlenB29
      @AlenB29 2 роки тому

      ​@@stoegerstewie8351 polish deffo not,bulgarian AK is trash maybe east german is similar but none are better than the yugo AK i ve talked to many veterans of the Yugoslav and Middle eastern wars

    • @shoelessbandit1581
      @shoelessbandit1581 2 роки тому +1

      My opinion is that unless the manufacturer is absolutely dog water (I'm looking at you American manufacturers) it really doesn't matter. They all will run well and will probably outlast you. It's really a discussion of price and small features

  • @WasatchGarandMan
    @WasatchGarandMan 2 роки тому +18

    Some more in-depth information on the CQ-311, the Rifle not only was made out of a lesser quality aluminum, but also all measurements were up converted in Metric. I actually came across a stripped 311 upper a buddy gave me and after I realized what it was I understood why a Colt BCG had so much play inside of it. Norinco also licensed the 311 to Iran and Sudan

    • @winfriedkloeser3244
      @winfriedkloeser3244 2 роки тому +1

      The cq311 has a very rough trigger group. Terrible trigger pull no clean break. Butt stock is good and solid with a good design. Forstock could do with upgrade. But the barrels gave me better accuracy than any other common brand.

  • @MrBakedDaily
    @MrBakedDaily 2 роки тому +8

    I like how the Germans actually improve the stem gun it was obvious to put the clip on the bottom and was on of the main problems with the original.

    • @bondrewdthelordofdawn3744
      @bondrewdthelordofdawn3744 2 роки тому

      Really ?

    • @AppalachianTemplar
      @AppalachianTemplar 2 роки тому +2

      The side Magazine was a thing for bit in the interwar period, the idea was it allowed to to get lower when prone. It's not really a big problem once you get used to it.

    • @MrBakedDaily
      @MrBakedDaily 2 роки тому +1

      @@AppalachianTemplar I own both versions the side mag messes with your accuracy ,I can tell a difference but makes sense to have it there for going in a prone position.

  • @shinobu2394
    @shinobu2394 2 роки тому +3

    im honestly surprised the springfield 1903/mauser isnt here considering how iconic the design was

  • @darkkira1332
    @darkkira1332 2 роки тому +13

    Ah yes, the Norinco CQ 311. I remember my employer was scammed into purchasing several units on those thinking that they'll be acquiring actual American made M-16s. Thus paying the price for actual M-16s. Needless to say, it didn't end well for the broker.
    Also, where's the Norinco NR08? It's definitely a shameless copy of the MP5.

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 2 роки тому

      Sounds like a fun employer to work for.

  • @nKe.
    @nKe. 2 роки тому +8

    Saying that forging is superior to MIM is just proof of writers not actually doing research on things and just going with the notion of "if US does X, then X>Y".
    MIM is only very good if done correctly, and same goes for forging.

    • @charmingmander331
      @charmingmander331 2 роки тому +1

      1. That isn't exactly what they said. 2. Forging is superior to MIM in pretty much every possible use on guns that has been tried. There's exactly zero chance that some Chineseium MIM receiver is as strong or durable as an American forged receiver especially if it's an inferior aluminum grade. It's not going to be as strong as a billet receiver either.

    • @nKe.
      @nKe. 2 роки тому

      @@charmingmander331 3D printing is the best way to make guns because a 3D printed gun in US > forged gun made in some chinese sweatshop.

    • @redvirknight9430
      @redvirknight9430 2 роки тому

      @@nKe. I'd imagine that to be the case depending on the 3D printed gun, better quality control you see.

  • @richardpeel6056
    @richardpeel6056 2 роки тому +6

    I handled a sten gun in 1968 at a summer fete where our local Royal Engineers had a stall. It was still their personal weapon as it had firepower and could be stashed easily in a vehicle. The one I handled was chained to a table so I couldn't take it home.

  • @bruceironside1105
    @bruceironside1105 2 роки тому +7

    You didn’t mention the American WW1 era Springfield bolt action 30-06 was a copy of the Mauser bolt actions of the time, and they were forced to pay significant penalties and licence fees afterwards for breach of patent.
    And the M3 grease gun was copy (better than original) of the Sten.

  • @clockwerk35
    @clockwerk35 2 роки тому +29

    I always loved the Galil, such a cool history behind it and the fact that it binds the reliability of the AK-47 with the accuracy of the FN FAL is so cool. It's always been my assault rifle of choice in FPS for good reason.

    • @OltsuSuomesta
      @OltsuSuomesta 2 роки тому +6

      _"the fact that it binds the reliability of the AK-47 with the accuracy of the FN FAL is so cool."_
      The original RK 62 did exactly that. Not really a Galil innovation in any way.

    • @pharaongaming8617
      @pharaongaming8617 2 роки тому +2

      @@OltsuSuomesta No Bottle Opener?🤨

    • @peabase
      @peabase 2 роки тому +2

      @@pharaongaming8617 Uh, Every Finnish soldier carries a knife. It's a bottle opener, too.

    • @TheMartianMancumpster
      @TheMartianMancumpster Рік тому

      @@peabase knives aren't even issued to soldiers anymore, there's no point since they have guns now

    • @peabase
      @peabase Рік тому

      @@TheMartianMancumpster Finnish soldiers don't need to be issued any knives. We bring our own.