Don't Go Into This Cave Next To The Interstate

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
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  • @bonomonkey
    @bonomonkey 4 місяці тому +357

    You should always tie a knot at the end bro. Most climbing accidents happen this way.

    • @qritique
      @qritique 4 місяці тому +11

      yes

    • @JustSomeGuyLass
      @JustSomeGuyLass 4 місяці тому +76

      He should really wear more protective gear too. The amount of times I've seen these guys send a half flooded cave in nothing but a tee shirt and some jeans is ridiculous

    • @jmc_-im6sd
      @jmc_-im6sd 4 місяці тому +36

      ​@@JustSomeGuyLasswhat do you expect? Their whole style is acting like the biggest stoners on the planet. We get it guys, we all smoke. Try being safe? 🤷

    • @Mountainmonths
      @Mountainmonths 4 місяці тому +24

      @@jmc_-im6sd they've never smoked or drank in their entire life

    • @jjtoobizzare8127
      @jjtoobizzare8127 4 місяці тому +21

      @@jmc_-im6sd where do you get that impression clown?

  • @markcassidy1428
    @markcassidy1428 4 місяці тому +185

    You say DON'T GO. Me think MUST GO........ Only problem is I wouldn't get very far in my wheelchair 🤣🤣🤣

    • @BaileyMartinez-ro9ni
      @BaileyMartinez-ro9ni 4 місяці тому +11

      I was thinking the same thing I'm a C6 spinal cord injury

    • @Bigtaz777
      @Bigtaz777 4 місяці тому +4

      The guy who always records isnt a real caver or thrill seeker, when he starts getting scared or nervous he gets agitated and irritated with others, thats the last type of person you want with you in a cave. hes sounds like a spoiled scred little boy in there sometimes. like bro your in a cave its time to man up

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 4 місяці тому +1

      Sorry. 😔

    • @sabaoempo2320
      @sabaoempo2320 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@Bigtaz777 no one cares lol

    • @hatapakoekoe
      @hatapakoekoe 3 місяці тому +3

      rappeling down must be possible in a wheelchair🙈

  • @jacksonhicks9982
    @jacksonhicks9982 3 місяці тому +22

    When they was digging the query out they hit water way back in the early 70s and theres still dozers an everything down there a kid drowned there to. Me and my dad fish this all the time thanks for this video it filled the questions we have asked 100 times "i wonder whats up in that hole up there" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @josieakajokerfebo9613
      @josieakajokerfebo9613 2 місяці тому +1

      Omg how awesome what is this place called an where''?I too got problems so I just admire I explore while others do I on utube ''an them wherever they go lmao

  • @Mr.HeftyHitter
    @Mr.HeftyHitter 3 місяці тому +20

    I find myself most impressed by the fact that you utilized a few shoe laces you picked up along the way to rappel yourself. Great work, my friend.
    Also, please be safe on your adventures, gentlemen. Of course we love the in depth videos you upload.. but even more so, we want you both to go home to your loved ones unscathed when you have completed each adventure.

  • @kshanda
    @kshanda 4 місяці тому +77

    Never in my life did I think I’d ever hear anyone else utter the phrase “over the shoulder boulder holder.” 🤣🤣🤣 that right there would’ve earned you guys my grandma’s immediate approval! 😂

    • @vXTheUprisingXv
      @vXTheUprisingXv 4 місяці тому +5

      Technically they said "over the boulder shoulder holder" :D

    • @kshanda
      @kshanda 4 місяці тому +2

      @@vXTheUprisingXv meh, my brain almost heard it right. 😂

    • @fightforfreedomneversurren8610
      @fightforfreedomneversurren8610 4 місяці тому

      Larry the cable guy comes to my mind on Health Inspector.

    • @MikeOrkid
      @MikeOrkid 4 місяці тому +1

      Leela from Futurama

    • @kshanda
      @kshanda 4 місяці тому +1

      @@fightforfreedomneversurren8610 I had to google when that was made, and now I wish I knew where my grandma had learned it from, because she definitely said that before 2006. 🤣

  • @Taterdatott
    @Taterdatott 4 місяці тому +107

    These guys are the definition of Dude Bro

    • @HiberNAT
      @HiberNAT 4 місяці тому +4

      ... Hold my sanity

    • @easterdm
      @easterdm 3 місяці тому +3

      Dooooooood!

    • @apotheose
      @apotheose 3 місяці тому +14

      I feel like they're what you get when you have a natural born surfer dude and deprive them of access to the ocean 😂

    • @AnthonyMaans
      @AnthonyMaans 3 місяці тому

      Daaaaaang

    • @Teeveepicksures
      @Teeveepicksures 2 місяці тому

      Spicoli Spelunkers

  • @Hiddengemsfactory
    @Hiddengemsfactory 4 місяці тому +80

    Bro did a homemade rope swing over a 100 foot drop… props

    • @Bigtaz777
      @Bigtaz777 4 місяці тому

      is this clown caving in vans????

  • @raimondnu3
    @raimondnu3 4 місяці тому +58

    The traffic from the freeway was deff. feeling alien abduction vibes. They immediately put there hazard lights on after lighting up that area. 🤣

    • @sevenirises
      @sevenirises 4 місяці тому +3

      Right? 🤣 Gonna be on the news for sure.

    • @raimondnu3
      @raimondnu3 4 місяці тому +3

      @@sevenirises 🤣🤣 No lie. If i was traveling on a dark road and the area got lite up and not a helicopter, I would prob do the same thing or immediately get out of the area. LOL

  • @davidp.5598
    @davidp.5598 4 місяці тому +10

    Thanks so much AATs, I appreciate you taking us along on your caving trips. I'm kinda old and disabled, but I probably could never done what you guys do. I really enjoy your posts. Thanks again!

  • @vazap8662
    @vazap8662 3 місяці тому +19

    Daymn.. that rappel looked sketchy! Flaky anchor, no redundancy, and a tiny rope that looks 30 year old! 😂
    And that torch lamp, insane..
    Nice one!!😊

  • @downtownMojo
    @downtownMojo 2 місяці тому +4

    Love the channel. Don't care for the "I was not prepared for this" approach. Please always do your best from before you even leave your house.

  • @HWR194
    @HWR194 4 місяці тому +11

    Dude Bros genuine reactions is just the greatest

  • @guitar_robin
    @guitar_robin 4 місяці тому +87

    You should have send a drone to scout for entrances in this case! Would have saved you a lot of effort!

    • @Jasta315
      @Jasta315 4 місяці тому +23

      Where's the Action Adventure in that? 😂

    • @notyouraveragegoldenpotato
      @notyouraveragegoldenpotato 4 місяці тому +3

      That's not monetizable on YT! Some people have to work for their clicks😂

    • @Captaraknospider
      @Captaraknospider 4 місяці тому

      Should have had more money for toys. Guys using an old welfare rope

    • @CANControlGRAFFITI
      @CANControlGRAFFITI 4 місяці тому +3

      @@notyouraveragegoldenpotato I mean like, not everyone has I drone I’m I right? 😂

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 4 місяці тому

      @@CANControlGRAFFITIthey are so cheap 💀👏

  • @GCCG76
    @GCCG76 4 місяці тому +5

    That bird has the crib with the best view in that quarry! Glad you guys are making new friends!
    I’m more of a cliff jumping dude and that spot looks like it’s yelling my name out!

    • @DemizeEvents
      @DemizeEvents 3 місяці тому +2

      At least I'm not the only one 😩😩

  • @kwm123123
    @kwm123123 4 місяці тому +8

    Dude! The bird flushin' tripped me out man.. Awesome 👍

  • @savage1469
    @savage1469 4 місяці тому +8

    Thanks for bringing us along for the adventure. That new flashlight gonna be put to good use 🤙

  • @satuolizzy1625
    @satuolizzy1625 4 місяці тому +28

    8:11 giant hand

    • @azumanguy
      @azumanguy 4 місяці тому +2

      dude

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 4 місяці тому +1

      Fr…

    • @robertbarnhart7791
      @robertbarnhart7791 3 місяці тому

      A lot of geology is petrified biology. Watch stellium7 or Mudfossil University for some wild ish haha

    • @r1nkyd1nk66
      @r1nkyd1nk66 3 місяці тому +2

      YES! I noticed that too....bizarre!

    • @thishandleisnotavailable
      @thishandleisnotavailable 3 місяці тому

      Yea that is def still attached to an arm, it even looks mummified. Dude should let authorities know

  • @thelonewrangler1008
    @thelonewrangler1008 3 місяці тому +6

    Years ago I got puked on by a turkey vulture when I stumbled upon its nest in a small cave by me. It was then that I learned how they use their horrible smelling vomit as a deterrent

    • @CoreyandCrew
      @CoreyandCrew 3 місяці тому

      Dude they have some of the strongest stomach acid on the earth i bet that was gnarly

  • @MrRhoidRage
    @MrRhoidRage 4 місяці тому +26

    There's for sure a cave network in there somewhere. Just might not be able to get to it.

    • @Bigtaz777
      @Bigtaz777 4 місяці тому

      He gets excited over seeing level 1 scrambles. my dad was taking me and my brother in crazier caves than this when i was like, what? 7 years old? lmfao

    • @LP620
      @LP620 4 місяці тому +19

      @@Bigtaz777damn ur so cool boss

    • @Jacobtheunwise
      @Jacobtheunwise 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@Bigtaz777 he gets excited because he enjoys it...

    • @robertbarnhart7791
      @robertbarnhart7791 3 місяці тому +1

      Bruhhhhh you're baaahd aaahhsssss. Best caver ever brooooooo

    • @AllolKoyot0109
      @AllolKoyot0109 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Bigtaz777Nível 1? O que quer dizer?

  • @horhaysworld
    @horhaysworld 3 місяці тому +2

    I could overcome my fear of heights, but not spiders. That flashlight was wicked! Great work.

  • @sevenirises
    @sevenirises 4 місяці тому +9

    That flashlight is going to be a caving game changer.

    • @andrewnail583
      @andrewnail583 3 місяці тому

      I wonder how long it runs before overheating?

    • @sevenirises
      @sevenirises 3 місяці тому +1

      @@andrewnail583 I imagine they only need it for short moments to see overall surroundings and get great pics.

    • @illusionistbeamish4204
      @illusionistbeamish4204 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah for like 2 minutes lol

  • @ScottyRules33
    @ScottyRules33 4 місяці тому +9

    Woah. That flashlight was like... BRIGHT!

  • @Beyondcategory
    @Beyondcategory 3 місяці тому +2

    I love this swimming hole. I think It’s best accessed if you use the exit directly east of there then backtrack west on the county road, then drive up the creek bed, trough the concrete, tunnel, then park on the hillside. Way more adventurous than merely parking on the side of the “I”. Btw, my Taurus did all that off-roading without a scratch

  • @nicki3118
    @nicki3118 3 місяці тому +3

    Flipping hell Edward, are you trying to scare the crap out of us! Great flashlight though.

  • @qldabandonedmines
    @qldabandonedmines 3 місяці тому +3

    Epic explore lads. Loved that amazing view over the quarry on that first pitch.
    You guys definately also created alien activity rumours with the Imalent. That thing is insane.
    Ebenezer. QAM

  • @Malboop
    @Malboop 4 місяці тому +3

    so cool! the formations with algae all over look so bizarre, love it!

  • @ehrenkrause9861
    @ehrenkrause9861 3 місяці тому +1

    5:59 bet you anything that's probably copper oxides coming through the soil. When you find copper ore it's the same color

  • @camshaflober3691
    @camshaflober3691 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for getting my blood flowing and hands sweaty before i head to work on this fine Sunday

  • @DoomieGruntVentures
    @DoomieGruntVentures 4 місяці тому +4

    Something I love doing is using google maps to find out where certain points of interest are. And man, I've driven right by this very spot and had no idea of it. It's in just the right spot passing by on the left that you wouldn't even realize it's there.

  • @TchSktch
    @TchSktch 4 місяці тому +1

    "Wow duude this gotta be SOMETHING!" in the intro of a video titled "Don't go into this cave" really got me intrigued lol

  • @Jaco3688
    @Jaco3688 2 місяці тому +1

    “Where’s all that water coming from?”
    (Outhouse situated directly overhead …)

  • @BeethovenHD
    @BeethovenHD 4 місяці тому +5

    9:09 skeleton head in the mountain top left wtf

    • @r1nkyd1nk66
      @r1nkyd1nk66 3 місяці тому +3

      Did you see the huge scaley hand with fingers at 8:11? lol....nervous laugh me....

    • @BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
      @BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 3 місяці тому

      6:45 sea monster (green rock)

  • @italialove70
    @italialove70 3 місяці тому

    Out of all the cave explorers on UA-cam I only absolutely love yours! Your so down to earth and remind me of me and my friends. Lol and if you ever teach how to cave explore I'm so down!

  • @Xinthose
    @Xinthose 4 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for your extra effort for us your viewers 😀

  • @TVADSNOW799
    @TVADSNOW799 4 місяці тому +21

    Some crack near the interstate.

    • @Bigtaz777
      @Bigtaz777 4 місяці тому

      That little pad he put on the rope, we used to call that the "pussy pad" only weaklings would use it.

    • @WesternBlazer
      @WesternBlazer 4 місяці тому +1

      Lmao

  • @evonnewhalen9794
    @evonnewhalen9794 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh hell no on the spiders. Not for love or nobody. I’m absolutely terrified of spiders

  • @CarlDidur
    @CarlDidur 4 місяці тому +2

    I unknowingly climbed over a wood duck nest up a small cliff and mama duck waited until the LAST second to take off and it was a moment for sure haha

  • @mattbarry5938
    @mattbarry5938 4 місяці тому +8

    I’ve been to this spot a couple different times scouting potential cliff jumping and highlining spots, and always wondered about those holes. Too bad they don’t go further!

  • @MikanOo
    @MikanOo 4 місяці тому +4

    Nice dude, that flashlight at the end 😮

  • @victorpena200
    @victorpena200 3 місяці тому +1

    The true cave is deep under the quarry depths. You will need diving gear to reach those depths.

  • @patriot1303
    @patriot1303 4 місяці тому +6

    I couldn’t do the creepy crawly spiders thing - you guys got balls of steel

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 4 місяці тому +1

      For real man… 🤣 I hate spiders!

    • @patriot1303
      @patriot1303 4 місяці тому

      @@Human_81 I’ll take that 😜

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 4 місяці тому +2

    i went to the water edge of a lake in Peru, it looked like the water level was much lower than normal.. it was also a glaciar meltwater lake so it was freezing cold water... what i didnt realise, was that the edge of the water was very soft sand and when i stepped on it, it started crumbling away into the lake.. like an overhang of sand and a cliff in the water.. i nearly fell in.. i had to quickly jump back onto my back and try to scramble backwards.. my feet and legs kept going into the water as the sand gave way.. was kinda scary.. i was on my own.. i think, if i hadnt been able to scramble backwards enough and had gone in the water i wouldnt have been able the get out again. it was pretty much a near death experience

  • @loboestepario2372
    @loboestepario2372 4 місяці тому +4

    Number 86 from Argentina! Dude! ✌️

  • @zhdrums3872
    @zhdrums3872 4 місяці тому

    "Oh, it's so tight"
    Thats what i said.
    When i put brand new trucks on my skateboard

  • @Human_81
    @Human_81 4 місяці тому +1

    You guys should totally come on up to Alaska! There is SO MANY caves here, out in the middle of nowhere or just in my backyard. 😅

  • @CANControlGRAFFITI
    @CANControlGRAFFITI 4 місяці тому +3

    I’m kind of jealous of that birds crib ngl

  • @fireworkhobby9240
    @fireworkhobby9240 4 місяці тому

    Everything you guys do and spiders are what do it for you. Lol. I can't do spiders either. Love the channel!

  • @willaim2462
    @willaim2462 2 місяці тому

    those jake breaks in the background was nice

  • @CatholicSister
    @CatholicSister 4 місяці тому +1

    Immediate heart failure! Heights and spiders. Beautiful view.

  • @melissabell4927
    @melissabell4927 4 місяці тому

    1:27 “aight, umm..” I couldn’t help but laugh at the way he said it.

  • @vonier13
    @vonier13 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for telling me, since its so easy to get to i might accidentally stumbled in not knowing. Wheww !! 😅😂

  • @add69420
    @add69420 3 місяці тому +1

    That flashlight is nutts😱

  • @inmyopinion_3672
    @inmyopinion_3672 4 місяці тому +14

    Gotta check that first hole you found on the way up.

    • @leviswanson2153
      @leviswanson2153 4 місяці тому +1

      FR it look legit

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 4 місяці тому +2

      Tight squeeze but for sureeee

  • @ElevatedAdventure
    @ElevatedAdventure 4 місяці тому +2

    Awesome adventure, bro love to see it

  • @dreamseer7
    @dreamseer7 3 місяці тому +1

    I kinda laughed at the "over the shoulder boulder holder".

  • @jakeforrest
    @jakeforrest 4 місяці тому +1

    I counted :-)
    From 0:00 to 3:30
    They said DUUUDE 9 times 🙏😉
    DUUUUUUUUUDE

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC 4 місяці тому +2

    12:31 ... Everyone would think it was a Helicopter's light!! :)

  • @RePotHead
    @RePotHead 2 місяці тому

    You would think that after all this caving you should come prepared by now haha!

  • @freedfree7933
    @freedfree7933 4 місяці тому +1

    This is how bad accidents happen. Not sure if this is complacency or youthful ignorance.. but there were at least 4 points of danger that were completely avoidable in this video.
    They might not seem like much, but they are the difference in an old adventurer and a statistic.

  • @loldidyoureally3246
    @loldidyoureally3246 4 місяці тому

    Always "sketched out"
    NEVER STOPS

  • @exploringwithsolwalk3726
    @exploringwithsolwalk3726 4 місяці тому

    That was fun, the anticipation of adventure was quite palpable!

  • @alden1132
    @alden1132 2 місяці тому

    Glad you said something! I was about to go into the cave.

  • @ByGraceIGo
    @ByGraceIGo Місяць тому

    It's weird how there were stalagmites in that little cave but I didn't see many stalactites and before they built that quarry I wonder if that K was more accessible and people just broke them off because I used to do that.

  • @timhillrestivepond987
    @timhillrestivepond987 3 місяці тому

    I was Recommended by facebook so now i'm here

  • @Deanna-k4i
    @Deanna-k4i 4 місяці тому

    The light incredible not to mention your climbing skills 👌 but you probably scared the bird more than yourself 😊

  • @Sunflowers_and_sunshine
    @Sunflowers_and_sunshine 3 місяці тому +1

    Ping your location to someone, and take a pic of the entrance of the cave and your surroundings to show where your going and where u enter.
    So people know where all of u are incase u guys can't get out or run into problems.

  • @jaybock1111
    @jaybock1111 4 місяці тому +7

    Is there a reason you guys always explore caves in the evening? Seems like every video you start at sunset

    • @mackit
      @mackit 4 місяці тому +1

      I’ve been wondering that too after watching the last few videos!

  • @NeoRipshaft
    @NeoRipshaft 4 місяці тому

    Ooooh next time you guys go to that one cave with the ENORMOUS open space think that flashlight might be worth dragging along for the trip 😆

  • @waynekaczmarek946
    @waynekaczmarek946 3 місяці тому

    Don't worry, they're not gonna find it Jase.

  • @jdshumaker1244
    @jdshumaker1244 4 місяці тому

    This one doubled the anxiety I get when I watch these videos

  • @alexw7861
    @alexw7861 3 місяці тому

    Dont ever forget James is your homie and not your bitch. Keep the respect up

  • @ebybbob
    @ebybbob 3 місяці тому

    Be careful friend - on the first rap your rope was unprotected on the first edge that was angled - this was above where you padded. Any side slipping over even close to 90deg wil cut through a tensioned rope so fast. Stay safe looks fun

  • @ogadlogadl490
    @ogadlogadl490 3 місяці тому

    The green berets should recruit this guy.

  • @EarthenExplorer
    @EarthenExplorer 3 місяці тому

    This is one of the coolest videos I’ve ever seen

  • @wrrkzyt
    @wrrkzyt 3 місяці тому

    I come back to your channel every now and then to see you if you’re still alive lol first video I think watched was ‘nervous break down’ which was 1-2 years ago? lmao u guys are wild man.

  • @ThePresidentialTourist
    @ThePresidentialTourist 3 місяці тому

    I like this video. I hope you go back and check more of those holes and see whats there.

  • @ForbiddenHistoryLIVE
    @ForbiddenHistoryLIVE 4 місяці тому +1

    THANK YOU
    Peace & Enlyghtenment Alwayz
    A Micah Hill Dezert-Owl
    Search Name

  • @Giganigaamk
    @Giganigaamk 3 місяці тому

    It looks like the cliff in grown ups where they jump in naked 😂😂

  • @ingweiching7920
    @ingweiching7920 4 місяці тому +2

    Love your adventures!

  • @dorhinj23
    @dorhinj23 3 місяці тому

    That's a mighty small knot on that 'rope' ... Oh, nevermind - risk on

  • @feetballoo
    @feetballoo Місяць тому

    hung around untill the 5th 'duude' now i'm gone.... dooode

  • @darkwave2i01
    @darkwave2i01 3 місяці тому

    It's probably a huge cave system to that just doesn't have a real access point lol

  • @utahnaharris5664
    @utahnaharris5664 Місяць тому

    Dudes! Love the adventure!!

  • @Rubin5342
    @Rubin5342 3 місяці тому

    My climbing accident would have been when big-bird bailed. Positive an extra pair of underwear would have been required.
    If this was me dropping on the 12mm (9mm?) through brush, I would certainly rake off the world’s biggest yellow wasp nest on the way down.
    If that happened you would have drop as fast and dump as much rope as needed to keep the stings to a minimum.
    This is where bonomonkeys note about the knot at the end could have saved you from the ER.
    I have a lot of time in at Smith Rock in Terrebonne but I’m 75 now so I must really thank young idiots like you two willing to
    make these wild ass attempts in death traps like this. Keeps us on the edge of our seats. Be safe kids. Your parents want you back. //ji John in Oregon

  • @easterdm
    @easterdm 3 місяці тому

    Sometimes she goes, sometimes she don't. The way she goes.

  • @Sauce787
    @Sauce787 4 місяці тому

    I hope they weren't cliff diving in a quarry, that's insanely dangerous

  • @darreno9874
    @darreno9874 3 місяці тому

    Never a sail with loose strap ends and never without a stopper knot at the end of the rope especially when the rope might not reach the bottom.

  • @Tight--LiNeZ
    @Tight--LiNeZ 3 місяці тому

    It's a good place. That bird has shelter, bugs and water. Then you came along...

  • @kspen6110
    @kspen6110 4 місяці тому +1

    That flashlight is so cool.

  • @defeatSpace
    @defeatSpace 3 місяці тому

    That bird almost gotcha

  • @purelightlove8888
    @purelightlove8888 4 місяці тому +1

    Dude you gotta get rid of the skinny rope bro!!!

  • @fryerheath
    @fryerheath 4 місяці тому +1

    Dude! Like how many times can you say "dude" in one video dude! Pretty awesome video though dude!

  • @Harufloof
    @Harufloof 3 місяці тому

    Lmao the bird catched you offguard

  • @landonmabry8814
    @landonmabry8814 Місяць тому

    I always wondered what was over there, I passed this place so many times.

  • @kensmith8832
    @kensmith8832 4 місяці тому

    There are tons of old quarries in East TN and SW VA, with caves. I am trying hard to not name them. Any cave near a blast zone could be unstable no matter how long ago the blasting was done.

  • @jacksonhicks9982
    @jacksonhicks9982 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for fulfilling a dream of mine an my dads

  • @chasstewart1165
    @chasstewart1165 28 днів тому

    Time to retire “dude” and “Bro” to the museum of over used words.

  • @ogadlogadl490
    @ogadlogadl490 3 місяці тому

    Almost threw up from my vertigo😂

  • @josieakajokerfebo9613
    @josieakajokerfebo9613 2 місяці тому

    Do u guys ever study your videos well this. Video is great do u guys plan on exploring that place with longer videos?

  • @tolentarpay5464
    @tolentarpay5464 3 місяці тому

    The difference between Stalagmites & Stalagtites?
    Had this frm an old miner that spoke to us on a school camp back in the early 80s (!)..."When the mites go up, the tites come down"... sounds sensible enough...