THE MYSTERY OF THE OTHER SUNSET SHIMMER

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  • @Holammer
    @Holammer 18 днів тому +49

    In an act of universe balance/equal exchange, original human Sunset crossed over to Equestria where she's currently busy exploring.

  • @Bestfandoms
    @Bestfandoms 18 днів тому +90

    I think that the human sunset moved out of state and pony sunset took her place and made up a lie to be her,, but hey that’s just a theory, A PONY THEORY

  • @atsfevan0242
    @atsfevan0242 18 днів тому +52

    Technically it was confirmed in 2021 from a writer who worked on eqg that there were plans for a final for the franchise that had Human Sunset involved, but as we know it never happened after G4's ending in 2019. Still, I for one do feel like the human Sunset would be similar to the one we know, but with a few slight changes.

    • @otaku-sempai2197
      @otaku-sempai2197 18 днів тому +8

      Yeah, this would have been the Season 2 finale. I'd like Hasbro to share it with IDW to turn it into a miniseries or even a graphic novel. Nick Confalone, writer and story editor on Equestria Girls, tweeted about it a few years ago.

    • @RichardDong68
      @RichardDong68 18 днів тому +1

      Here's some advice: Search up "The Tale of Two Sunsets"

    • @atsfevan0242
      @atsfevan0242 16 днів тому +1

      @@otaku-sempai2197 that's pretty much what I said/meant.

    • @otaku-sempai2197
      @otaku-sempai2197 16 днів тому

      @@atsfevan0242 Yes, but I wanted to add my wish for an adaptation of the story. And I wanted to get a bit more specific.

    • @atsfevan0242
      @atsfevan0242 13 днів тому +1

      @@otaku-sempai2197 The closet we'll get is something fanmade as I doubt Hasbro is interested in wanting to continue Eqg.

  • @brayancaballerorojas8347
    @brayancaballerorojas8347 18 днів тому +9

    There is also another character that I find curious and that is Sinch, the director of the Crystal school. I believe that she has a variant in Equestria that is an alicorn of Skyros, because in the alicorn book that Misty found, on the cover there was a photo of Celestia and another alicorn that looks like Sinch. I even believe that she is Opaline's mother.

  • @owenwildish331
    @owenwildish331 18 днів тому +13

    Why not both..? Empathy & Forgiveness. Also, though it's unlikely and might not be possible, it wouldn't be fun if a hypothetical Human Sunset actually somehow crossed time & space into the next MLP Gen.
    She could perhaps suddenly pop up randomly as a (rather confused) character now as a Pony in Equestria in the future and has to adapt to her new life, with a (possibly futile) mission to go home to her own world and time... not a villain but starting off as good, but starts becoming more antagonistic and misunderstood, as the plot unfolds, before becoming her good self again by the and of her arc, or something like that..?

  • @charmianernest1449
    @charmianernest1449 18 днів тому +8

    Sunset shimmer is the element of courage

  • @yondaime500
    @yondaime500 18 днів тому +14

    I never really cared about this question, to be honest. Lots of ponies don't have human counterparts, and vice versa. I just assumed that either Sunset doesn't have a human version, or her human version lives in a different place entirely and isn't important to the story.
    You know, it's possible that the pony Starswirl and the human Starswirl are also the same person. We know the pony version knew about the human world, since he banished the sirens there, and the human version is like their version of Galileo or Newton, who lived centuries ago, so it's possible that it's just the same Starswirl travelling between worlds while doing research. The only trouble is that he would have to spend a long time on each world, since the portal doesn't open often. Unless he found a way to open the portal at will (like Twilight did) and never told anyone.

    • @hello-s6z
      @hello-s6z 18 днів тому +1

      In one of the comics (I don’t remember what but it had celestia and Luna young) celestia also knew about the portal and went through it with star swirl, and they went back and forth a lot. There’s a lot to the story, I would recommend hoopla to find it, but the point of this is that they both knew about the other world, but there were LOTS OF MIRRORS AND LOTS OR PORTALS in the comic.

  • @RichardDong68
    @RichardDong68 18 днів тому +8

    The story behind the Human Sunset was unfortunately never given the light of day, despite the staff originally wanting to do such a special.
    At least we have The Tale of Two Sunsets.

  • @AhsokaTano101
    @AhsokaTano101 17 днів тому +3

    Sunset represents[ Harmony] thus ☯️ she is made to bring balance and only discovered her destiny by taming her emotions and growing how to be in Harmony . I believe thats why she is good to be a twilight type of leader in EGs. So this theory makes more sense. I don't need a double of sunset the character is perfection as it is.

    • @ichobitz
      @ichobitz 8 днів тому

      i think they tried doing this with starlight glimmer as well

  • @moisieiev7124
    @moisieiev7124 18 днів тому +19

    I wish there was an Equestria Girls series finale, where the human Sunset Shimmer was the main antagonist and the final challenge to Sunset before her alicornisation

  • @Lomdy333
    @Lomdy333 4 дні тому +1

    I was thinking Sunset Her element is balance You gotta keep balance over your friends

  • @olafthebear2327
    @olafthebear2327 18 днів тому +4

    Perhaps the human elements don't have magic at all, and human Twilight is actually the element of forgiveness

  • @cathygrandstaff1957
    @cathygrandstaff1957 18 днів тому +2

    Well most likely there would be a similar situation to Twilight where human Sunset lives in the big city because that’s what corresponds to Canterlot while pony Sunset was deposited in Canterlot High which corresponds to Ponyville. Alternatively she’s actually an adult and has a job somewhere she never runs into the others.
    One thing I’ve always wondered is what the time flow difference is between the two worlds. It’s stated in the first movie Sunset was Celestia’s student before she took on Twilight. We also know Twilight got taken on as Celestia’s student just after she got her cutie mark because Celestia recognized it as the third symbol on the tree of Harmony. Meaning by all rights Pony Sunset should be a lot older than she is, perhaps corresponding to a 25-40 year old human instead of a teen. Then again that goes back to the question of what pony lifespans are, whether ponies in Equestria are the same as ponies IRL and grow from birth to adulthood in 1-2 years, meaning Sunset has been banished for at most 2 years and aged relatively little as a human while Twilight has aged significantly. It’s also possible Celestia had adopted Sunset because her sun cutie mark had made Celestia believe Sunset could be groomed into assuming the role of controlling the sun and moon, allowing Celestia to give up her position as an immortal Alicorn and unalive herself to get away from the pain of knowing she’d had to banish her only sister. This plan changed when she saw Twilight’s cutie mark and realized Twilight could be destined to save Luna, but forced her to make other plans for Sunset.
    But I also like the idea of Sunset being unique to Ponyland and the reason she could be banished to the human world being that the character didn’t have a counterpart. To me it would make more sense if the final movie was about them going to Equestria to try to figure out a way to stop Equestrian magic from leaking into the human world, since it seems to be causing problems with characters gaining powers and going a little crazy.

  • @SI4Y
    @SI4Y 18 днів тому +2

    I’m pretty sure since sunset is older she would have graduated and moved out 😂

  • @brettfrost6828
    @brettfrost6828 18 днів тому +2

    It’s best that Sunset has no counterpart like Discord

    • @1zzy21princess
      @1zzy21princess 11 днів тому

      Yea i googled why we haven't seen human sunset and the owners of the show didn't want her to have one they wanted her to be her own kind

  • @rosalinaandedgefan
    @rosalinaandedgefan 18 днів тому +3

    3rd ! Actually the writer confirms that there is no other sunset.

    • @SI4Y
      @SI4Y 18 днів тому +3

      Where was this confirmed? If I may ask

    • @Whysoserious648
      @Whysoserious648 13 днів тому +1

      Not really it wasn't confirmed

    • @ichobitz
      @ichobitz 8 днів тому

      ​@@SI4Yin a tweet from a staff

  • @arthurheuer
    @arthurheuer 13 днів тому

    Human Sunset would be a big meanie, like Sunset was before she changed.

  • @moisieiev7124
    @moisieiev7124 18 днів тому +6

    I think that if Sci Twi was obsessed with finding out more about magic, then human Sunset would've been obsessed with revenge on her pony counterpart for stealing and living her life

  • @rileygarraway87
    @rileygarraway87 18 днів тому +2

    Would of loved to see a fifth movie

    • @ciscojacobo7168
      @ciscojacobo7168 17 днів тому

      I do have a scenario for what might've been the final eg movie, but it considered heartbreaking 💔.
      That the cracked at the portal is slowly breaking more and in order to seal it up, the Rainbooms must sacrifice their geodes (just like how the Mane 6 did with the elements of harmony in the season 4 finale, Princess Twilight Sparkle). There would also be another sacrifice, where someone needs to focus all that energy and magic. That someone is Sunset Shimmer. She manage to sealed the cracks, but with a price. It turned her into a statue. We then get a memorial service at the school, where each of her friends say that Sunset might've started as aggressive and a bully, but at the end, she became a true hero. We would also see both Princess Twilight and Starlight at the memorial service as well, and they'll try their best to find a way to bring her back. The final scene would be with Sunset's statue with a writing on the side that says " Friend, Hero, and the 7th Element of Forgiveness "

  • @NoDepressionForMe
    @NoDepressionForMe 16 днів тому

    empathy and forgiveness

  • @ciscojacobo7168
    @ciscojacobo7168 17 днів тому

    I do have a scenario for what might've been the final eg movie, but it considered heartbreaking 💔.
    That the cracked at the portal is slowly breaking more and in order to seal it up, the Rainbooms must sacrifice their geodes (just like how the Mane 6 did with the elements of harmony in the season 4 finale, Princess Twilight Sparkle). There would also be another sacrifice, where someone needs to focus all that energy and magic. That someone is Sunset Shimmer. She manage to sealed the cracks, but with a price. It turned her into a statue. We then get a memorial service at the school, where each of her friends say that Sunset might've started as aggressive and a bully, but at the end, she became a true hero. We would also see both Princess Twilight and Starlight at the memorial service as well, and they'll try their best to find a way to bring her back. The final scene would be with Sunset's statue with a writing on the side that says " Friend, Hero, and the 7th Element of Forgiveness "

  • @Overwatch2010
    @Overwatch2010 15 днів тому

    I’m sure a lot of people had this question especially when the second one came out

  • @CatKun-2000
    @CatKun-2000 17 днів тому +1

    What comic is that from 6:58

  • @sonicgen20
    @sonicgen20 13 днів тому

    Empathy? So Misty got the element that was actually scrapped from the Equestria girls franchise.

  • @marmik961
    @marmik961 17 днів тому

    I have this theory that human Sunset Shimmer ran away from home similar to what her pony counterpart did.

  • @kylegraham6923
    @kylegraham6923 18 днів тому +3

    When you mentioned a 5th Equestria Girls film (which I know will never happen), I kinda do have an idea how this would turn out. For the human version of Sunset she’s like the Sunset from the first film but way worse! After finding out about her Pony self she wants all the power of Equestria.
    It’s the Human Seven’s Graduation of Cantorlot High, and Human Sunset steals a device created by Sci-Twi and uses it to send the girls into 3 separate worlds across the Multiverse! Sci-Twi and Sunset in Equestria, Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy in G1, and Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash in G3. We also get to see Sunset meeting Sunny Starscout from G5.
    In the end after seeing what she has done, Human Sunset apologies for her awful mistakes, in conclusion Pony Sunset would send her to Equestria to learn about Friendship to give her a new home, she remains in the human realm.

  • @Lilybelle-vr3ho
    @Lilybelle-vr3ho 16 днів тому

    There must be a human version because aint no way Sunset could enroll in a school without having records in the human world so

  • @Spiderbrony
    @Spiderbrony 18 днів тому +3

    You know it's been a while since i even thought of the mystery of the human sunset shimmer i really would've loved to know what happened

  • @Flower38467
    @Flower38467 18 днів тому +4

    I actually read something about the other sunset shimmer the human version of her ! It was meant to be released in the show but they didn’t because it got cancelled for reasons. If you want to read it on google in a story called (Sunset on the Horizon) Which basically explains so much about the second sunset shimmer but Im not sure if that story is true or not but if u would like to read go check it out !😊💛💛I hope this helps for some people😊

    • @denisahemcinschi6473
      @denisahemcinschi6473 18 днів тому +2

      Thxxxx so much

    • @Flower38467
      @Flower38467 18 днів тому +2

      @@denisahemcinschi6473 Welcome i hope it helps and answer your questions :)

    • @RichardDong68
      @RichardDong68 18 днів тому +2

      Sunset on the Horizon, I've seen it, and it mostly seems to be a brief synopsis with a bit of a farfetched ending.
      The other fictional media that involves Human Sunset Shimmer is The Tale of Two Sunsets.

    • @Flower38467
      @Flower38467 17 днів тому

      @@RichardDong68 i like it was interesting tbf it answer all my questions so im happy aha

    • @denisahemcinschi6473
      @denisahemcinschi6473 16 днів тому

      @@Flower38467 I have read it it's an amazing story thhhxxx sooooo much

  • @PrincessSapphireSpirit24
    @PrincessSapphireSpirit24 День тому

    I believe that they might have switched places. Pony version sunset might have offered human sunset a new life full if magic in equestria.
    Pony sunset went to the human world. Why we haven't seen the human version of sunset in Equestria who knows

  • @TheStormBolt-gf8qi
    @TheStormBolt-gf8qi 18 днів тому +2

    That would be crazy if she put her somewhere

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 17 днів тому

    I don't think there ever was another Sunset. Much like we don't see a Wallflower Blush in Equestria. Not all characters have doubles.

  • @fluttershyisnotadoormat4678
    @fluttershyisnotadoormat4678 18 днів тому +3

    Ah right, the famous 7th element of harmony that we actualy got to see in the show at least 2 times:
    1 in flashback of Pillars of Equestria in the depiction of young Tree of Harmony
    2 in old form (round stone, not destroyed like others by Nightmare Moon) in Spike's hoard when he was stealing everything

  • @RobloxGirlyJulia
    @RobloxGirlyJulia 18 днів тому +2

    2nd ❤❤❤ love your videos

  • @MegaDuras
    @MegaDuras 18 днів тому +3

    I'm not entirely sure that Chrysalis is unique to the human world, because, she in fact shares some similarities with principal Cinch. She is manipulative, arrogant and self centered. She has different color scheme. But given how colourful, the Changlings become, after their reformation. We can't say, she wouldn't look like that. One other similarities are her earings, whitch remind me of the crown like thing, on Chrysaliss head.

  • @x3midnightsky3x
    @x3midnightsky3x 18 днів тому

    She killed the other Shimmy

  • @coryrusch3068
    @coryrusch3068 18 днів тому +2

    Forgiveness and empathy are the same thing

  • @otaku-sempai2197
    @otaku-sempai2197 18 днів тому +2

    Here is a transcript of Nick Confalone's (writer and story editor on Equestria Girls) original pitch for what would have been the Equestria Girls Season 2 finale:
    My Little Pony: Equestria Girls
    Season 2 Finale Thoughts
    Nick Confalone - 10/15/17
    The Mane 7 have come to expect that Equestrian magic will find them wherever they go-- from school halls to camp bonfires, cruise ships to amusement parks. Their friendship seems to be the sweet, lavender-infused honey that attracts the gnarliest of nefarious flies, buzzing with other-worldly enchantments. Like most heroes with geode superpowers, the girls have accepted their roles as always friends and often heroes, but the question remains: why does this keep happening? Many shows ignore this question completely to the detriment of their storytelling universe’s reality--think: Murder She Wrote’s Jessica Fletcher discovering hundreds of dead bodies, literally a new one everywhere she goes--but we’re going to address this question head-on… because the answer is an essential piece of Sunset Shimmer’s ongoing redemption arc, harkening back to the genesis of the Equestria Girls franchise.
    Ever since Sunset’s turn at the end of that first movie, her friends have reassured her that her past is just the past--what matters is the good she chooses to do in the PRESENT.
    …But they’re wrong.
    Unbeknownst to Sunset Shimmer, the powerful ancient-Equestrian magic spell she cast to open the portal to another world in the first place created an imbalance that has not been resolved. Her arrival in the human world displaced an innocent character whom we’ve never yet seen, but whose absence can be felt every time Sunset appears on-screen. In this final special of season 2, we’re going to reveal what happened to the human Sunset Shimmer.

    • @manuproulx2764
      @manuproulx2764 17 днів тому +1

      Guess we're never gonna know the truth.

    • @otaku-sempai2197
      @otaku-sempai2197 16 днів тому

      @@manuproulx2764 Not unless Hasbro lets someone adapt the story, either as a comic or a book.

  • @twilightsparkle-v2l
    @twilightsparkle-v2l 18 днів тому +2

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  • @MirkaLettera-ny4ek
    @MirkaLettera-ny4ek 18 днів тому +2

    I think Is even possibile that human Sunset doesn't look like her, because maybe the human and pony One has got a different parent, because for example in pony world Twilight and Flash Sentry are engaged (maybe) and in human world Twilight Is engaged with Timber Spruce, and we never saw a pony version of him Who had a connection with Twilight, so I think Sunset could have a version of her with only One parent Who Is the same, that's because we never got to know her human version, or maybe we did but didn't notice, but I don't know. Btw great video as always❤❤❤

  • @caseydreamuslpsandmore2582
    @caseydreamuslpsandmore2582 18 днів тому +4

    I think if there was a human Sunset Shimmer that she would be deaf. Human Twilight had glasses and pony Twilight didn't. It's not on the main 5 they look normal.

  • @kreimabao6828
    @kreimabao6828 18 днів тому +2

    Haiiiiiiii

  • @Sulbhayogeshjoshi
    @Sulbhayogeshjoshi 18 днів тому +2

    Before this video was uploaded, i was having the same doubt

  • @fatimasgreatgamingworld5424
    @fatimasgreatgamingworld5424 18 днів тому +1

    forgiveness is given to someone by empathy if sunset does not feel the empathy towards someone she wont forgive

  • @saintzeroinfinity
    @saintzeroinfinity 18 днів тому

    💔

    • @saintzeroinfinity
      @saintzeroinfinity 18 днів тому

      Other sunset could be enrolled in the that school that sci-twi wanted to go to in the third film.

  • @fluttershyisnotadoormat4678
    @fluttershyisnotadoormat4678 18 днів тому +1

    Remember how Sci Twi lived away from others the same as Twi in pony world before moving to Ponyville? Sunset from human world is propably just in another town :3

  • @BBBHuey
    @BBBHuey 18 днів тому +2

    Hm, why is Sunset so good at playing the guitar? Was she given lessons by Flash Sentry when they dated?

  • @karos009
    @karos009 17 днів тому

    i think the problem with the mirror version of a pony is not a guaranteed occurence.The problem with paralel universes dynamic, even the insignificant changes can make the overall end different. i do belive the human sunset simply dont exist because the woud be parents simply never met or fallen in love with each other therefore human sunset never born in the human world at all. the overall missing of human sunset in the grand sceme of things changed nothing. even if there was a human version of her it woudnt changed the outcome of the whole story. Again A and B point are fixed. by magic and by destiny. (in the poniverse) The existence of human sunset only made the road between A and B different in some way but not changed anything important.

  • @ameerwastaken
    @ameerwastaken 18 днів тому +1

    I saw this exact video, u just plagiarized, not cool, no credit even

  • @emoesmita
    @emoesmita 18 днів тому +2

    I feel like sunset shimmer would be kind but I also feel like she would also be like a little bit more sassier I feel like she would be kind of mean but not like to me

  • @millabasset1710
    @millabasset1710 18 днів тому

    Outside the MPAA rating system, Sunset killed the other Sunset offscreen.

  • @AidensWorld2043
    @AidensWorld2043 18 днів тому +1

    Either Pony Sunset killed her and took her place or maybe she just doesn’t go Chs or cpa

  • @aestheorsani
    @aestheorsani 17 днів тому

    pretty early :3

  • @Johntv0112
    @Johntv0112 18 днів тому +2

    1st ❤❤

  • @kevil3925
    @kevil3925 18 днів тому

    i personaly would make the other sunset shimmer a trans guy so it's easier to see the difference and that can also serve the reason why no one suspected pony sunset shimmer to be a doubleganger , and i would probably make him to main antagonist of the equesteria girls final movie.