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- Chapter 1 of Kaldheim official lore. We embark on an adventure as Kaya, the ghost assassin, is commissioned for a job hunting a monster on the snowy plane of Kaldheim. She does not know of her mysterious financier, but she does understand the job. She seeks a beast that's terrorizing a small fishing village and she travels with a group of locals known as the Omenseekers. Kaya discovers that one of her companions is more than they first appeared; and the monster they hunt is nothing like Kaldheim has seen before. Phyrexians have come to conquer Kaldheim.
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-Kaya wants a more tame adventure
-Kaya is hired to hunt a Phyrexian Preator
... Tough break.
Imagine the gods of Kaldheim turning Phyrexian? Man that would really spice things up.
If blocks were still a thing, I’d imagine it being titled kaldheims take on ragnarok. That’d be so cool.
Damn it WoTC, why you gotta mess up blocks when they gave us so much story
If they were continuing the metal theme that would be siiiick
That'd be metal.
That would be crazy
"Unskin these impure bodies Great Yawgmoth, that the flesh might welcome your blessings."
I, for one, accept our Phyrexian overlords.
Wait, Kaldheim set have PHYREXIANS CARDS on it ?! (I haven't really made researches about this set)
@@rKhael53 vorenclex is a card in the set and now phyrexian is now a official creature type
Yes. Dr death (our lord and savior yawgmoth)
@@TomozAlpha Ah, only Vorinclex? So we need to wait one more set to have phyrexians return probably
@@rKhael53 I Don’t know but like the comment says ”I, for one, Accept our phyrexian overlords.”
The way these comments are talking you'd think Vorinclex ACTUALLY lost to Kaya, instead of shrugging off all her attacks, nearly killing her, and only escaping because of literal divine intervention.
Ah, thank you for the clarification. I haven't read the lore, but I'm on team Vorinclex for this battle. It doesn't sit right with me for a monstrosity that powerful to be taken out by someone like Kaya, who literally specializes in ghost assassinations (assassins don't match up well against bruisers, and it is much too early for the Praetors to actually die imo.)
@Democrats Lie Are you okay?
You already mentioned my only problem with the story so far: Vorinclex.
I mean, in New Phyrexia we are introduced to the preators as this terrifying being of immense power and here... Kaya almost single-handedly starts slicing him up like a big piece of ham!
One could almost argue that, without the soldiers to be absorbed as new limbs and ony with the help of Inga, she could have had an even easier victory!
I do understand that MtG wants to galvanize the PWs as their main characters but still... it doesn't sit right to me.
After all, as the chapter said, a weapon that can slice through souls should be useless against a soulless beast, no?
Kaya should be somewhat the worst choise to fight off Vorinclex and yet, somehow she overpowers him not even breaking a sweat?
I liked that a literal god could put him into his place but, especially after the Mending, PWs shouldn't be all that.
This first chapter had too much plot armor for my tastes...
They went pound for pound with premending planeswalkers it's retarded
In all fairness we havent seen what ghostblades would do to vornclex in the padt. But I agree she should have had a harder time dealing with vorinclex since he is mainly about brute strength. Personally I would have had her be the one losing the fight and the god stepping in to save the party.
I think he was intentionally trying to get hurt
Phyrexians are historically very weak in the bitter cold. It's why Urza used the Cylex to create the Ice Age which killed 99% of the phyrexians at the time. It wasn't until Freyalise ended the Ice Age that the phyrexians who weren't killed "woke up" and restarted their efforts. (Which, by the way is what Karn is working on right now, figuring out a way to use the Cylex to defeat the phyrexians on Mirrodin.)
Not to mention that on Mirrodin "cold" doesn't really exist. The place has 5 suns!!! lol. Perfect environment for them to grow in.
Basically, it's not that Kaya is "strong enough to beat him" so much as "he, because of the cold, is operating at less than half his strength"
Hope that clears some of that up for ya.'
@@SilentGrudge thanks a lot, that actually helped very much, altough I still think Vorinclex should have been a bigger menace... I mean, even in a cold environment... for crying out loud, PWs like Koth and Elspeth were afraid to face them! AND ELSPETH DEFEATED POLUKRANOS AND HELIOD!
Of course the conditions here were very different but going from ruling an entire ecosystem og Geiger-esque nightmares to barely keeping up with an assassin with fancy blades...
So far this lore is very bizarre. The Devs: We listened, we are going to a plane that has been asked for for years, a super rich theme of top down Nordic flavor. Also the devs: Let’s surround all the story and lore around two planes walker and a Phyrexian that have been on Koldhiem, for all of 12 seconds combined.
Ya, the lore has been an absolute shit show for quite some time. It's painstakingly obvious that WoTC has shifted the vast majority of its efforts into pumping out set , after set, after set ad nauseum. The days of commissioning veterans of fantasy literature to write compelling storylines, complex characters, and intriguing worlds are long gone in of favor of a frantic cash grab.
It's a blessing on high, that they haven't bastardized Urza.
Still the best story arc in MTG;s history imo.
I've got to stop comparing every set's story to Shadows over Innistrad. That was the exception, not the rule, yet I still get my hopes up every time.
@@blakegrose1774 that's the first story I read, it's sooooo good. When I saw Halana and Alena got their own cards I was so excited
@@blakegrose1774 shadows was sooo good. But ixalan was also solid storytelling
So Vorinclex was wounded, and the story said he basically bled. Isn’t Phyrexian blood made of glistening oil? If it spilled onto the plane that can’t be good.
Exactly.
So will more phyrexians be made on Kaldheim. Because we all know how leaking oil went down with a certain metal plainswalker
Yeah but they were already some phyrexians infections on the wall of cavern so it didn’t do much I think
Glistening Oil is not that dangerous for planes made by stone and rock, if it were, Dominaria would have been entirely compleated by now. The reason Mirrodin was compleated into New Phyrexia at the fast rate it did, was because it was an artificial plane made of metal. If Glistening Oil was all that was needed, Yawgmoth would not have needed to invade Dominaria in the first place.
@@Krishnath.Dragon that’s true, but it can still infect organic matter, the Mirrans were frequently infected. Generally they did just die, but some became Phyrexians.
Vorinclex reaching Kaldheim with the absence of the other preators makes me think that its not like they are not present in Kaldheim, but that New Phyrexia is planing to invade multiple planes at the same time. . . . awww how nice it would be
I really would have thought a Praetor, let alone Vorinclex, would be able to withstand a planeswalker’s powers post mending.
Well we haven't ever seen a Phyrexian put against soul blades so there is no evidence suggesting that they wouldn't be effective compared to the normal weapons which do little to no damage almost all of which heals nearly immediately.
Yawgmoth will return to "unmend" things. The end is nigh.
@@architectofdreams73 The time rifts were one of the two main things caused by the Golgothian Cylix, the other being Dominaria's second Ice Age. If anything Karn will unintentionally cause the unmending if he were to use the Cylix assuming that his hunt for it on Dominaria went well. The mending refers to the repair of these time rifts and the decrease of power in all planeswalkers that resulted.
@@architectofdreams73 yagmoth would die to nicol bolas
It’s SOOOOO AMAZING!!!!! That Vorinclex is in this world. I think there is some way the rest of the Praetors can come through, and from what was said “terrible things to come, see death and destruction” sound to me like a blessing from her Majesty. We are all servants to her 💀☠️
not me
I am so glad to find you're making MTG lore content again! I was disappointed when you dropped it a year or so ago. I am excited! Thanks!!
Thank you so much for this entire channel!
I think she was able to hurt him not because of plot armor on her but because he was weakened by planeswalking to kaldheim. The attacks are him gaining the strength and components to rebuild himself. Perhaps hinted at by the +1/+1 counter ability
Cool! Thanks for the video!
"Bear with me" What are we, Vorinclex? :P
I heard Phyrexians and came as soon as I could.
We will flay the false skin of this world to reveal the face of new Phyrexia
Wait, Kaldheim set have PHYREXIANS CARDS on it ?! (I haven't really made researches about this set)
@@rKhael53 Did you watch the video?
@@supercannonball1236 No
@@rKhael53 Watch the video, it explains everything
Damn good video! The story was interesting but the way you handled the whole thing great.
Thank you so much
This was awesome. You are a wonderful story teller. I'm scared for the multiverse if the preytors can travel between. I look forward to more thank you.
If I recall, they were originally locked down on New Phyrexia by the 9 Titans, but it seems like Tibalt or someone released Vorinclex at the very least. Hopefully not the others, but I have a feeling we might see Gin-Gitaxis on Strixhaven, the next set.
Thanks Simon. I love lore, but hate reading (just don’t have the free time). So I appreciate your efforts.
HYPE! I cannot seem to express my excitement for this
Mesmerizing presentation! It felt like the video went really fast.
i am glad you are back making MTG lore videos mate. not sure if you remember. I was the one who pestered you for the Feather video even became a patron for a time xD. Good to know you are well and back to MTG lore. Subing back :)
Glad to have you back my friend! Thank you
Dope. New Player, no Phyrexian knowledge. Sounds dope though. All here for the norseness
I love the new videos!! Still handsome as ever, you truly have gotten me through this pandemic
This set is doing so, SO many things
But guys, it's so *METAL*. Right? ...Right? That's coming across guys, right? How about if we just say it more? No? Oh...
So good!!
Just wild speculation, but, I wonder if Tezzeret is working with the Preators. He has the planar bridge still, no? I always suspected that he would be a key player post-Bolas and that he would tie the story into a confrontation with the Phyrexians. Also, Karn found something on Dominaria that he needed, perhaps the Cylix, to blow up New Phyrexia. Again, just wild speculation, but it's fun. 😄
Another thought: Isn't Bolas technique to make Eternals draw similar parallels to Phryexian Oil?
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 except for Lazothep isnt a living metal like the Phyrexian oil tends to make everything be. Lazothep is just a metal that has high magic properties. The Phyrexian oil is known to act almost more like a living wireframe metal structure that can spread from creature to creature and keep people on a sort of half life half metallic monstrosity thing Lazothep just makes a magic armor for the undead
interesing that the soul of new phyrexia art was used in reference to Vorinclex in this video
I agree, the story has a good start. Will it have a greater ending? I’ll find out soon
I love the video!
I’m really glad we got to see more of Kaya and the Phyrexians.
I definitely want more information on how the Phyrexians were able to get to another plane and I definitely want to see more of Ashiok seeing as Ashiok seemed to intrigued by the Phyrexians and seemed to want to see them close and personal. And I def want to see the group of planewalkers deal with this threat. I mean after War Of The Spark several Planeswalkers seemed to want to take the Phyrexians down. So I hope this set will help lead up to it. I really hope we get more of the new Gatewatch facing them. I mean after Nicol Bolas the Phyrexians seem to be the biggest threat so surely they’ll unite to beat it. Hopefully.
They doomed the plane on the first chapter. Guess this is New-Mirrodin
12:47 does anyone know the name for this card/art
I’m super disappointed that we only got one phyrexian in the card set. But I did get a Phyrexian Text Vorinclex in my prerelease pack, so I won’t complain too much.
Awesome snag! As much as I love the Phyrexian text version, I really like the showcase art. It would have been cool to have my cake and eat it too with both having a Phyrexian text version available. lol. Outstanding pull though - congrats!
I dont think they were close to defeating him, this isnt the smartest phyrexian, but surely he would have the correct instincts to retreat when overwhelmed with new attacks. But i think Kaya should have been the one losing this fight and gaining more wounds and then being saved by the gods. Due to how strong vorenclex has been shown in the past.
Also my bets are on Tibalt being the guy putting this bounty up
At this point I wish Phyrexian would just overrun all the planes and just kill everyone.
All hai Phyrexian. I for one welcome our new Phyrexian overlord!
Yay!
When making Kaldheim: WotC: people liked the gods of theroes, why don’t we just beat that idea with a stick?
I think you don't give Kaya her due. No other planeswalker could have wounded him so directly. Chandra would melt him into oil (bad idea). Jace would invade Phyrexia's semi-collective mind (bad idea). Nahiri would trap him with Hedrons (bad idea). Ajani would try to mirror him (bad idea). Teferi would freeze him in time and... call Karn? See? Very few planeswalkers actually have the right tools for the job.
Vorinclex was testing them as much as "the Odin guy" was testing him. We know New Phyrexia retreats as many times as necessary to perfect their weapons and strategies, and there's enough oil already for him to dive into. He just arrived and it took a planeswalker with a weapon that cuts anything AND a major god just to drive him back. If Wizards wants this to make any sense, well... Kaldheim is screwed.
I mean it makes 0 sense. Not once in the lore have phyrexians struggled to deal with spirits.
I still don't understand how Kaya's ability to ghostform and attack spirits equates to "chopping through the arms and legs of a 16 foot hulking monster with daggers, no problem at all". Her ghosting a dagger into his spine, I'd understand. But just chopping off arms and legs willy-nilly seems ridiculous. I'd believe it if it were Elspeth, Godsend in hand. Kaya, no.
Also - she was chopping off arms and legs. Vorinclex was bleeding. How did none of that get on her? Because I think we all have a good idea of what should happen when you get a Preator's blood on you.
I don't want to get too ahead of myself, but it would've been a much more compelling story if Kaya had not only lost, but had been killed by Vorinclex. She isn't a "good guy" either, and people seem to forget what she did in Conspiracy 2 (you know, murdering the king for an usurper to steal the crown and further oppress the civilians of the plane of Fiora..?) AND her track record was working with Bolas in RNA alongside Dovin and Damri. Even though she eliminated the Obzedat, she did it more because she hates undeath than out of some sense of morality. Plus, what if she became a ghost planeswalker? That actually leads to more interesting plot ideas. And if Vorinclex wins, it makes the takeover of Kaldheim much more likely, and adds to the overall power of the Phyrexians. It just seems like the lore writers missed an enormous opportunity here.
okay so i love this. i wonder if tibalt is the one who coaxed Vorinclex to Kaldheim it definitely sounds like something he would do. i hope that he's the only one. praetors are bad news Mirrodin was lost because of 5 of them. just one is terrible. from the story it looks like they have the ability to absorb organic material to replace their organic parts that are mixed with the bone metal so its really deadly. oh you chopped my arm off? let me just absorb this body. something like chandra's pyroblast would be needed to get rid of these things. i wonder how Kaya is gonna do it.
Mirroring was lost because of a trace of phyrexian oil. Kaldhiem is dead. Better to burn the plane than let it suffer that fate.
A single drop of oil doomed the entire plane. Imagine how much of it spewed out of Vorinvlexs wounds on Kaldheim. Kaldheim has fallen. And the phyrexians were barely even present.
We will flay the false skin of this world to reveal the face of a new Phyrexia
All will be one
They fear death even as we offer immortality
Dang, I was like 5 minutes behind on the live stream
Sorry brother, I will be doing more though! I was super tired today so the reading wasnt even good... lol
@@AetherHub that’s fair. Most people don’t have as messed of a sleep schedule as I do.
I find the story quite decent, not bad at all, i enjoyed hearing you. Tho i do find strange that kaya's motivation its just a ton of money, i mean, what is she gonna do with it? Go to the planeswalker store or something?
I mean, planeswalkers are still people, and people need things. But at least from my perspective it seemed like Kaya was motivated by just having something simple to do instead of dealing with all the business on Ravnica.
That cracked me up too. I guess it's a good thing that gold seems to be a semi-universal currency (*maybe*), because otherwise being an interdimensional mercenary is ... pointless.
What kaya doesn't know is vorniclex doesn't have a soul to severe.
I really miss the little books that used to come with the fat packs (now called bundle) It had a bunch of lore and a card encyclopedia and other cool info. Why did they stop making those? sadge.
Vorinclex was straight up about to kill Kaya. Without the God stepping in to save her she was dead. Even dealing with the cold and this new planeswalker, Vorinclex was setting her up for death and she didn't see it coming.
For the image at 4:17 seconds who is the artist who drew it
I know it appears on the box art for the draft booster box. Also, this link has the art halfway down, but no credit.
www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-news/kaldheim-art-and-packaging-spoilers/
When Yawgmoth returns (and he will), we will see a force greater and more powerful than these puny gods. He will make Bolas seem like a cub scout. Phyrexia will not be contained! You thought the Eldrazi were powerful and they infected everything? You haven't seen anything yet.
Well, good bye Kaldheim. Nice knowing you.
You did a great job. I cant stand other youtubers, make me feel nerdy, but your vids remind me why I like MTG in the first place.
I'd be surprised if Kaya was ever put into any real danger.
She can't. Minorities Protection deems it such.
@@architectofdreams73 found the pepega bigot lul
@@thoticcusprime9309 I guess the truth is bigoted then.
Hey wizards, Why don't you make a block set again. Especially for this one ya dingus'
I'm not sure what I think of this set. On one hand stoked to see Gods that I honor in a set but on the other I know how phyrexians are
Look, maybe I"m biased here because I love Phyrexia, but Vorinclex had already corrupted the metal in the cave, right? That's how he escaped - presumably through some kind of network of corupted metal. I realize it's not a perfect analogue, but doesn't that imply that something like the mycosynth is growing underneath Kaldheim's core? And if that's the case, then isn't Kaldheim already *screwed*?
Wait, Kaldheim set have PHYREXIANS CARDS on it ?! (I haven't really made researches about this set)
Hmmm..don’t care for Kaya and her story. I wanted more God stories from this plane and Tibalt
She's a ghost assassin. What a super niche skill set. It made sense on ravnica, its kinda weird on kaldheim
It would have been fun for once to have the face of the set not be a "good guy". It almost would have been... metal. And it would be nice to have more than 1 of the planeswalkers of this set be from Kaldheim. And Tyvar, don't get a swollen head, I'm none to fond of you either.
Uhhh...Tibalt is a PW.
I wish it just followed kaldheimins, kaldheimee, homies, whatever...... at the very end you can have kaya, or liliana stumble in all drunk yelling LETS PARTY! It would match the esthetic better.
I wish they'd used the Phyrexians as an easter egg - more like "Look at this huge conflict between the different generations of gods, and the demi-planes colliding! Kaldheim is AWESOME, isn't it? Something something, so metal! Also, in the corner, you know that Vorinclex is here, doing ... *something*. You don't know what, we won't tell you - just stew on that for, oh, a year or two." And then we do similar things with all the other planes we visit for the next bunch of sets. Set up the idea of Phyrexians somehow escaping New Phyrexia for planar contamination. This just pulls all the attention onto the Phyrexians.
I'm glad to see Kaya return.
Should a phyrexian pre be able to beat a planeswalker? I feel like it should be a lot stronger. Also was wondering is a God stronger than a walker? Don't know that in the lore
We know that Elspeth and Koth together were sent running by a single praetor. The lore seems to establish that the (at least) 5 praetors are horrifyingly strong.
Phyyrexian = Yawgmoth is somewhere
I have a question that is out of context but how strong is Edgar Markov
Short answer. Insanely
@@AetherHub like sorin
rushing troughn this. who was the planewalker that contarcted kaya?
Karn is a possibility due to his history with and knowledge of New Phyrexia he'd very likely be keeping an eye on the plane and upon figuring out that any Phyrexian let alone a Praetor escaped he'd definitely want them slowed down if not killed as immediately as possible, some other options could be Elspeth who hates the Phyrexians immensely after what she endured on their plane, Ajani who both hates Phyrexians due to his care for Elspeth and who has lived through many of the extra planar threats throughout his time, etc
@@phoenixshadow4631 other than karn, why would any of the other walkers not go to kaldeim personaly? i dont think it was any of them
@@goncaloferreira6429 Ajani and Elspeth both hate the Phyrexians but both of them also know how most regular weapons have no lasting effect on the Phyrexians. Therefore Ajanj is totally out because he knows that he can't win against them, Elspeth could try but we don't know how effective the ShadowSpear would actually be on Phyrexians so assuming that's its ineffective there is no point and assuming it is effective then obviously she wasn't the one who hired Kaya
@@phoenixshadow4631 i am taking it from a story perspective. ajani and elspeth are both white walkers, they would not hire someone. they would go themseves to at least help and share knowledge. does kaya know who hired her? i got the feeling she doesnt and ajani and elspeth would not do things like that.
also, am i forgetting something or you are wrong about ajani´s relationship with the pyrexians? he never actually encountered them so he cant hate them.
@@goncaloferreira6429 According to the mtg Fandom wiki Ajani had visited New Phyrexia to help Elspeth this is also hinted at in an old 2013 article on the Magic Story page where Elspeth wrote a letter to Ajani telling him to not come to Mirrodin now turned New Phyrexia to be short he did anyways and he saved Elspeth from some Phyrexians. And when you're facing a multiversal threat on top of you're own problems you would be more likely to hire a specialized member of the Gatewatch to do it then otherwise, also Kaya has no clue who hired her. Ajani has also been shown to be quite the tactician and knows that while he was able to beat a few of them he couldn't necessarily face a Praetor. Also some white aligned characters have been evil or dark in their own wierd way before for example Heliod who wanted to kill his own champion out of jealousy and sent many trials and challenges her way to try and do so and Dovin Baann who wanted control over others so much that he joined the side of Bolas. So white doesn't inherently mean not evil or not swayed to darker means. I can see Ajani not hiring her but I can also see an argument for hiring her. Elspeth though quite literally endured torture to the point of being near dead in one of the novels and surely would have quite good reasons for hiring an assassin out of vengeance. And I said they are possible options for the client not necessarily her actual client, also if I'm honest it is more than likely Karn because he has the largest grudge against the Phyrexians out of all living walkers due to the original Phyrexian war in which he was tortured by being put into an endlessly tumbling box and made to crush thousands of the Mogg species (once again found in an old novel) and saw many of his friends and his creator die then he made his own plane which became infected with Phyrexian rot and unintentionally brought one of the worst threats in the multiverse back into being seeing his friends on Mirrodin even fold and become part of heir ranks with Geth and Glissa both becoming aligned with New Phyrexia very early on and both being in positions of power with Geth being one of the 7 Steel Thranes and Glissa being the sort of secret background leader of the Viscious Swarn as well as the one who lead to most of the elven population being compleated. Another one that I didn't bring up was Koth because we have no idea whether he is still alive or not and also because he was pretty much the overall leader of the Mirran forces meaning that if he left and an attack occurred every last Mirran would be conpleat-ly gone.
I think they messed up the return of Phyrexians already. The first Phyrexian signs should have been Elspeth with that Shadowspear and returning to life not quite the same... These little drops of Phyrexia in other planes could show that Jin-Gitaxias is up to their experiments under Elesh Norns control :P
But they are getting everywhere, infecting everything. Yawgmoth is still a threat, even dead his power still corrupts all. Things are set in motion to bring back the Phyrexian "god". When Yawgmoth returns, they will beg for something sweet as death. Bolas is but a speck on a napkin compared to the horrors that Yawgmoth will bring. And bring his vengeance he shall. The end is nigh.
Maybe tibalt has hired Kiya to kill vorinclex due to him somehow knowing of phyrexians
Hmm, we are missing praetors.
On different planes. Just wait. The return of Phyrexians is at hand. This is the next "big bad". Yawgmoth will return. The end of the multiverse is nigh.
What happend to Chapter 2.
I feel it’s bs that the gods or Mary Sue could mess up a phyrexian overlord like that
Vorinclex is something like 12 - 16 feet tall, right? And Kaya uses an *assassin's* knives. So... logistically, even ignoring how/why her powers should work this way - how do those knives cut through limbs that big so cleanly?
Surprised Kaya almost killed Vorinclex? Sure, he’s a phyrexian praetor, but she’s a PLANESWALKER...
Well Vorinclex bled and the this plane will eventually become the Aspen vacation plane for New Phyrexia.
Right? It's hard to care about the story when it mentions Vorinclex escaping through some mycosynth-analogue in the wall, because my initial reaction was, "Well, Kaldheim's fucked then, have fun with that Vikings. Wish I would have gotten to meet you, but sing some psalms to the Machine Father for me, will ya?"
yeeeeeeet
I am not happy to see Vorinclex on Kaldheim. . Phyrexians take a lot of spotlight, as they should, all of the spotlight should be going to Kaldheim and introducing us to the plane. I feel like they just added him to the story to add to the 'metal' theme of the plane, after all what can be more metal then vikings but Phyrexians.
As for the short story, I like it for the most part. I felt like the set up was good and it led into the conflict very naturally. That being said I was disappointed by how Vorinclex was portrayed in the story. The fact that Kaya was severing off LIMBS off of the GREEN praetor is kinda ridiculous. Vorinclex should be the toughest physically as well as being a souless being, he should be a natural counter to Kaya. Personally it felt to close for my liking, especially with how phyrexians are some of the scariest threats in magic.
I hope that they just give Vorinclex the respect that he deserves, this is the first time we have seen New Phyrexians on a new plane and they need to make an impact or else they will start to lose the fear and respect that they have been building over the years.
Who would win in a fight Garruk or Vorinclex
Garruk, Garruk all the way.
Even if Garruk wins the fight, all that oil that spews from vorinclexs wounds would eventually turn him. And if Garruk is grabbed once, he just gets absorbed. So I'm going to say The Praetor is the winner here lol
@@Skel_cat63 True, but what it Garruk never touches Vorinclex? He can summon hordes of beasts that he can just make disappear so even if one fo them gets the oil on it he can just poof it out of existence and never get infected.
Vorniclex for sure, I mean he and a few other praetors corrupted Karn just by telling him their bible psalms
Garruk, he roamed cursed by the veil for a decade
I know we're not here to point fingers or place blame but I can't help but feel like this is all somehow Karn's fault...
It still makes me wonder how the Phyrexians are able to travel to different worlds. I still that they are using Fencer's spark after he died. Could there be a zombie/Phyrexian Fencer? o.o
I believe Vensers spark was absorbed into karn entirely so if venser was brought back at all, it’d be even more of an empty shell
@@Dyllrboy They make Phyrexia so OP that I wouldn't even be surprised if they can make artificial sparks too. lol
@@Venom87542 but that was the issue ever since Memnarch wasn’t it? Trying to create an artificial spark that didn’t involve someone else’s spark?
@@Dyllrboy Hm well that would mean they'd have to capture another Planeswalker. Aside from Karn, I'm surprised no Planeswalker has been corrupted by the oil. (To my knowledge)
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froma storrytelling perspetive it seems a mistake to hav your heroes face the main villain so early in the story. where is the build up? and, as other mentioned, if kaya was doing mostly fine in the battle, how will she feel the need to improve/get stronger?
that is why following a newbie planewwalker, like Teyo, could be a good idea.
I don’t think Vorinclex is designed to be the main enemy. But rather a perplexing mystery.
@@AetherHub perhaps, if you consider just this story. but if you consider the kaldeim arc? and all the comments here show that people see the phyrexians, and vorinclex, their emmisary, as pretty important and powerfull.
I was super excited when I saw the spoiler, because I thought Vorinclex would barely be in the story, and it was almost an easter egg. The main story would be the strife between the different generations of gods, involving the demiplanes of Kaldheim colliding. I thought this was a really way to do a return to New Phyrexia (You don't return to New Phyrexia. New Phyrexia returns to you!) would be to sprinkle easter eggs that *somehow* the Phyrexians had escaped their plane. Which could be a really cool planar saga of how different planes react to this new threat. But this plot just pulls all the attention away from Kaldheim. I read about the metal corrupted in the cave and thought, "Well, this plane is already fucked, sorry Vikings, wish I'd gotten to know you."
I kinda hope that Kaldheim falls, just to actually show stakes for the phyrexians return. Kinda what I lowkey wished happened to Zendikar. Sure, a fan favorite plane getting destroyed limits set design a little bit. We can never go back because it was consumed by the eldrazi when they awoke. I feel they would have been taken more seriously, and would allow them to be a truly unstoppable threat, instead of just being burned to death. Plus, we have tons of other planes we never revisited. Alara and Shadowmoor/eventide for example. It would also make Nahiris actions just the slightest bit more understandable. Already loving the story. I hope they dont waste the potential.
new new phyrexia?
Vorin-halla? The Great Work Tree?
Remember when people used to complain about cultural appropriation?
I won't deny that I was thinking it too. The sky would cave in if MTG ever did an African based set with a white planeswalker as its face. Why doesn't this set have a VIKING planeswalker? (Sit down, Tyvar, you don't count).
Does kaya know what a hedron is?
I like the overall setting, however PW should not be this powerful across all planes. I feel like it takes away the value of the characters native to the planes. I would have liked more emphasis on walmart-version-Odin and Inga too, in order to let us better understand the culture and religion of Kaldheim. I really hope the upcoming chapters contain more cultural lore.
Both Vorinclex and the 3/4 foreign planeswalkers do pull away from Kaldheim itself. Like damn, guys, let us get to know this plane first. We need to love Kaldheim for Kaldheim, not just because it was the plane that got fucked by Vorinclex (which I'm going to need *seriously* good writing to understand how it's already not).
Wow this plane was going to be so awesome, and then they threw in phyrexians as though they knew their story ideas would suck and need something players love story-wise to beef it up. Disappointing. A God literally stops kaya from killing Vorinclex then tells her he's dangerous if she wants to kill him then he would help, if I was Kaya I'd be pissed.
Where is garruk? I mean this is his plane
He is protecting Rowan and Will, no ? 🤔
Since when do the Phyrexians have a spirit? They are not supposed to be necromachines because which ones do not have it.
Second, how a pair of daggers can cut an arm the size of the Vorinclex, which is almost the thickness of a human body. This story was not bad but I feel that it was tried to put Kaya very high, within it.
HAHA! Someone else gets it! Regardless of how her magic works (which I don't understand either), her knives are way too small. Postmending planeswalkers aren't supposed to be *this* powerful. Cheers sirrah!
man I love me some seth Rogan
I really hope they don't kill Vorinclex.
That's the thing....you don't kill a Phyrexian. You can defeat one, but they won't stay "dead" forever. Once Yawgmoth makes his return, you will witness the full power of the Phyrexians. He will return...and the beginning of the end will be at hand.
i still dont get it. how on earth Vorinclex enters Kaldheim?
Back in the day, Old Phyrexia was able to phase its entire plane into Serra’s Realm and nearly did the same to Dominaria, only being stopped by Urza and his team of other old planeswalkers in giant robots.
It’s likely New Phyrexia’s trying to phase into Kaldheim here.
@@maxspecs thanks for the lore info.
I was wondering why I was kicked from catching up on the stream
Sorry about that! There will be plenty more random night streams though!
Phyrexian masters
So odin's not an evil dude I'm this world?
so magic goes full anti Scandinavians.
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Alright
Just Kaya...?
She is a planeswalker, bro...;)
A postmended pw. She had no business even scratching a Praetor much less nearly killing them solo
@@mistertaz94 Not to mention her whole gimmick is phyrexians now cant hurt spirits
So were Koth and Elspeth, and one single praetor sent both of them *running*. So was Karn, and if it weren't for Venser, the oil would have consumed him. Planeswalker status doesn't and shouldn't immediately equate to tactical superiority in any situation. Hell, Urza was an oldwalker with oldwalker allies, and for years the Phyrexians besieged Dominaria rather successfully. I agree with the complaint that this fight shouldn't have been so easy for Kaya. I could understand her using her ghostform defensively to avoid Vorinclex's attacks - but hacking limbs off right and left seems ridiculous. Also, how did she not get any of his blood on her? Because that would be game over, my friend.
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grats, and thank you always for your support buddy
@@AetherHub THANKS!!! and thank you for great videos!!!
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Really? This!? This is how they choose to reintroduce Phyrexians to the story? Another paid planeswalker (like Vraska on Ixalan) based around coincidental issues. Vorinclex really wasn't given a proper chance either, he felt really downplayed, only succeeding with his unusual abilities surprising them. He fought in a war against innumerable warrior full of experience and here some randos had better success. Overplaying their low experience lead I see...and downplaying the truly strong characters to give the others a chance
Sigh, at least the writing is better just lacking in volume, Vorinclex is the biggest issue that prevents me from enjoying this
THANK YOU. I didn't understand why Kaya was on Kaldheim, and I thought the fight was ridiculous. The praetors were enough to send Elspeth and Koth *running*. And those two knew what they were walking in to. It also pissed me off how Kaya just somehow knows not to touch anything in the cave. She says it multiple times, and the only reason for it is plot armor. It's an easy fix - this was just bad writing.
@@blakegrose1774 Oh my gawd, thank you, I barely even registered her saying that. She didn't know what she was here for other than to kill a monster so twice she'd had no idea. I just chalked it up to don't touch the weird junk anyway (and bad writing) so I didn't think much of it.
But as always female led set, no reason being here, out playing warriors who could do or did better, downplay villains so they don't curve stomp them. I'm just glad we're getting Kasmina next set, at least she'll make sense, at least she belongs. So long as they don't introduce another downplayed Phyrexian on her plane I have high hopes for her character
Oh that would be cool, however they explain the Phyrexians escaping, if there were multiple escapes to multiple planes that would be cool. Just too bad they can't give them the credit they earned
do planeswalkers come in theis variety of ugly?
for fucks sake YES PLEASE!!! im sick of the same boring ass human garbage walkers spat out at us, the only rly non humanoid walkers we got are ugin bolas and ajain and thats streaching it. GIVE ME MONSTEROUS WALKERS IF YOU GOING TO KEEP SPITTING 2-10 OF THEM OUT A SET!!!!
I Hate Kaya.
No reason.