I've been looking at videos that does this exact same thing, but from what I've heard and seen, they only show how to forcefully punch into the distorsion and when I try that, I clamp up and almost choke myself. But how you described how to relax and gently go into the fry, it just clicked for me and I got it right away! Been doing vocals for about 10 months now (focusing on false chords), but this is a new way for me to dip my toes into a better fry scream. Thank you so much and keep on rocking with these tutorials! You're great :)
I've watched (probably) the same videos and had the same problems :D That's why I "upgraded" this method and it started to work really well for my students, especially during group vocal workshops where some people could learn a basic fry scream in a matter of 30 minutes of practice. I am happy that it worked for you and thank you for the comment and kind words - it means A LOT! PS The next step after this method is something that I called the "vomit fry" - it's also very effective, maybe it will be something useful for you :) ua-cam.com/video/DJXWG44yH_k/v-deo.html
This video really helped alot, just like many of your other videos. It would be sick if you could do another video on Chuck Schuldiners vocals and dig in more into his fry techinque. Cheers from Sweden
I am happy the video was helpful! I would love to talk more about Chuck's vocals, especially from two last albums of Death but currently I have so much work with the new course and recording (2 albums, one ep and 2 songs wait for me to be recorded) that I can't work on covers or analysis of vocal styles of vocalists too much. I have few covers recorded in the previous year and I will gradually upload them but I see that people don't watch my covers so I focus on tutorials instead :D
Awesome, I am happy you found it useful! The only risk of imitating sounds of other people is that the imitation of the sound itself doesn't mean that you use the same mechanics. For example I've learnt fry scream in a matter of week by imitating the sounds from Zen Of Screaming but I wasn't using the support and compression properly so my throat was getting devastated after 15 minutes of screaming. I thought it will improve with every week, month, etc. It didn't so I decided to re-learn from basics again. It took me at least 2 years.
@@sibilaextremevocal yeah i know that's right, the process is more important none of that being instant most of pro screamer took a long time to get their sound from being learn of the techniques.
Thank you! I think that there are a lot of great tutorials but in the beginning it might be difficult to find methods that suit the voice best, and each person might need a bit different approach or exercises.
My man, I thank you for mentioning overtone singing. Funny shit, I can do both khoomei and kargyraa fairly easily, but I've been sitting here destroying my throat for 4 hours, trying to undestand what I'm doing wrong, whilst already having all the instruments at my disposal. Once I stopped trying to fry scream like someone unfamiliar with throat singing, and use the diaphragm and false chords properly, everything was put in its place. Thank you so much brother
I am happy that you discovered a way that works for you best, awesome! Also, thank you for the comment and sharing your story, it might help other people who are in a similar situation :)
Hey man! How can I make sure that my throat is open while doing falsechord screams? I think I found my falsechords and I'm pretty sure about I'm using my diaphragm, but it sounds like there's vocal fry going on. And it also starts to hurt after a pretty short time, once it just felt uncomfortable, I kept doing it, than I barely could talk the next day lol. Btw I tried to imitate Rogga from Merciless. (The song Pure Hate partuculally)
Hi! The classical opened throat feels like you have more space inside of your throat and mouth - larynx is lowered (or even dropped) and the soft palate is lifted, and the tip of your tongue lies behind your lower teeth. It's good for lower and darker vocals like growls and gutturals but the opened throat is simply a state when sounds you produce flow completely from any kind of discomfort and they don't meet any obstacle like tension or too high pressure on their way. If you have an impression like the vocal fry is in the background of your vocals and you don't want it to be there, then it can mean that you connect and tighten your true vocal folds way too much. It can get really uncomfortable and exhausting for the voice. If something hurts, then it's good to not force it but to listen to a recording, if you have a one, and try to figure out what requires fixing instead of forcing uncomfortable technique. If you have any recording, feel free to send me it, I will gladly listen and share my observations!
Hey, I have no problem with fry noise, when it almost sounds like a scream, but it isn't yet. But I am stuck and can't gain the power and converting it to a scream. Any tips?
Work on proper breathing support for vocals in general. That in and of itself won't get you to the full on "fry scream" but neither will doing everything else correctly, but doing so WITHOUT learning how to breath properly and use your diaphragm to it's full capacity. I think people often forget that in trying to be a metal vocalist either as a hobby or as a career, you are a VOCALIST, not just a screamer. So going from never singing to being a fry screamer is not going to happen in a matter of weeks. Not saying that is you, just saying people underestimate the amount of time and dedication some of these vocal styles take to get right.
You are right Brandon! Many people just try to jump into desired screaming technique in a matter of weeks/ months but they don't see that the "vocal picture" is much bigger than just screaming. I remember few people who managed to learn fry scream during a single lesson and in 90% of cases they were really good at singing, no matter if they were singing teachers, self-taught singers or they studied singing, their experience (good understanding of the resonance, support, airflow and avoiding unnecessary tension and pressure) opened for them a path of mastering extreme vocal techniques much faster than in cases of the most of people without such an experience.
I think that learning more about the voice emission - controlling the volume, the breath support and using resonance can really help you to unlock your full fry scream! Fry noise is also something not that obvious, some people need few months to learn it so good job anyway. Fry noise is kind of between the vocal fry and fry scream so you are almost there.
I can make a vocal fry but it's little quite so I want to learn how to scream fry i thought if i give more air when I'm doing the vocal cry it's going to be louder but it's not. I still can't do it the scream
Hi! I recommend you to check out this video then, in the description there are also links to free course and e-book with exercises. ua-cam.com/video/j_8OTtjv0VI/v-deo.html
Hello, usually it's a sign that something is missing in your technique, for example: 1. The source of distortion is not precise enough, 2. You push too hard from your throat or chest (too much air or too high air pressure), 3. The breath support needs improvement. 4. Maybe your voice needs a better singing warm up. 5. There are constrictions in your jaw, root of the tongue or epiglottis etc. and they cause the discomfort If any of the things above relate to your situation, check out the materials about breath support, warm up and growl on this channel. They should help to solve the issues.
Dude injusy csnt get that compression down. I feel that when i do the HU sound to close the vocal cords i relax them to much when trying to push air out.
Did you try other methods? Maybe this one doesn't suit your voice. When I practice with my students, sometimes we need to check 4 or rarerly even more different ways before we discover something that works well. There's a whole playlist dedictated to the fry scream, feel free to check it out and let me know if you found something helpful :)
Whenever I'm about to give up practicing fry scream, I watch one of your vids and it makes me naturally follow along. Such motivating tutorials.
I've been looking at videos that does this exact same thing, but from what I've heard and seen, they only show how to forcefully punch into the distorsion and when I try that, I clamp up and almost choke myself. But how you described how to relax and gently go into the fry, it just clicked for me and I got it right away! Been doing vocals for about 10 months now (focusing on false chords), but this is a new way for me to dip my toes into a better fry scream. Thank you so much and keep on rocking with these tutorials! You're great :)
I've watched (probably) the same videos and had the same problems :D That's why I "upgraded" this method and it started to work really well for my students, especially during group vocal workshops where some people could learn a basic fry scream in a matter of 30 minutes of practice. I am happy that it worked for you and thank you for the comment and kind words - it means A LOT!
PS The next step after this method is something that I called the "vomit fry" - it's also very effective, maybe it will be something useful for you :)
ua-cam.com/video/DJXWG44yH_k/v-deo.html
@@sibilaextremevocal Thank you! I will look into it! Sounds like a good next step to go for :)
Awesome! Simple and effective. Thanks!
This is excellent. I wasn't at all consistent until I watched this video - really well done man.
This video really helped alot, just like many of your other videos. It would be sick if you could do another video on Chuck Schuldiners vocals and dig in more into his fry techinque. Cheers from Sweden
I am happy the video was helpful! I would love to talk more about Chuck's vocals, especially from two last albums of Death but currently I have so much work with the new course and recording (2 albums, one ep and 2 songs wait for me to be recorded) that I can't work on covers or analysis of vocal styles of vocalists too much.
I have few covers recorded in the previous year and I will gradually upload them but I see that people don't watch my covers so I focus on tutorials instead :D
very useful tutorial, the best way to get the fry scream like that for me it's to follow or copy the similar voices, thank you.
Awesome, I am happy you found it useful! The only risk of imitating sounds of other people is that the imitation of the sound itself doesn't mean that you use the same mechanics.
For example I've learnt fry scream in a matter of week by imitating the sounds from Zen Of Screaming but I wasn't using the support and compression properly so my throat was getting devastated after 15 minutes of screaming. I thought it will improve with every week, month, etc. It didn't so I decided to re-learn from basics again. It took me at least 2 years.
@@sibilaextremevocal yeah i know that's right, the process is more important none of that being instant most of pro screamer took a long time to get their sound from being learn of the techniques.
The best fry scream turtorial so far
Thank you! I think that there are a lot of great tutorials but in the beginning it might be difficult to find methods that suit the voice best, and each person might need a bit different approach or exercises.
This is the most helpful fry video I’ve seen
Your method works the best for me... I finally get it to work. Thanks
I'm happy it works for you, thanks for the comment!
This did it. Thank you sir.
best tutorial!!
My man, I thank you for mentioning overtone singing. Funny shit, I can do both khoomei and kargyraa fairly easily, but I've been sitting here destroying my throat for 4 hours, trying to undestand what I'm doing wrong, whilst already having all the instruments at my disposal. Once I stopped trying to fry scream like someone unfamiliar with throat singing, and use the diaphragm and false chords properly, everything was put in its place.
Thank you so much brother
I am happy that you discovered a way that works for you best, awesome! Also, thank you for the comment and sharing your story, it might help other people who are in a similar situation :)
This ohne really clicked for me and I got a huge lvl up from that! Thx so much!!!
That's awesome, I am very happy that this method was helpful for you, good job!
Siemka pozdrawiamy I czekamy na materiał 😉
🤟🏼👽 very good at describing the mechanics of this
Thanks, I study extreme vocal techniques since 2012 :)
bro u are amazing thanks!!!
Hey man! How can I make sure that my throat is open while doing falsechord screams? I think I found my falsechords and I'm pretty sure about I'm using my diaphragm, but it sounds like there's vocal fry going on. And it also starts to hurt after a pretty short time, once it just felt uncomfortable, I kept doing it, than I barely could talk the next day lol. Btw I tried to imitate Rogga from Merciless. (The song Pure Hate partuculally)
Hi! The classical opened throat feels like you have more space inside of your throat and mouth - larynx is lowered (or even dropped) and the soft palate is lifted, and the tip of your tongue lies behind your lower teeth. It's good for lower and darker vocals like growls and gutturals but the opened throat is simply a state when sounds you produce flow completely from any kind of discomfort and they don't meet any obstacle like tension or too high pressure on their way.
If you have an impression like the vocal fry is in the background of your vocals and you don't want it to be there, then it can mean that you connect and tighten your true vocal folds way too much. It can get really uncomfortable and exhausting for the voice.
If something hurts, then it's good to not force it but to listen to a recording, if you have a one, and try to figure out what requires fixing instead of forcing uncomfortable technique.
If you have any recording, feel free to send me it, I will gladly listen and share my observations!
@@sibilaextremevocal Thank you very much man!!
Hey, I have no problem with fry noise, when it almost sounds like a scream, but it isn't yet. But I am stuck and can't gain the power and converting it to a scream. Any tips?
Hi! For how long are you "stuck" with the fry noise?
@@sibilaextremevocal well for like a month, probably even more. I had never screamed before. I feel like I need more distortion or better projection
Work on proper breathing support for vocals in general. That in and of itself won't get you to the full on "fry scream" but neither will doing everything else correctly, but doing so WITHOUT learning how to breath properly and use your diaphragm to it's full capacity. I think people often forget that in trying to be a metal vocalist either as a hobby or as a career, you are a VOCALIST, not just a screamer. So going from never singing to being a fry screamer is not going to happen in a matter of weeks. Not saying that is you, just saying people underestimate the amount of time and dedication some of these vocal styles take to get right.
You are right Brandon! Many people just try to jump into desired screaming technique in a matter of weeks/ months but they don't see that the "vocal picture" is much bigger than just screaming.
I remember few people who managed to learn fry scream during a single lesson and in 90% of cases they were really good at singing, no matter if they were singing teachers, self-taught singers or they studied singing, their experience (good understanding of the resonance, support, airflow and avoiding unnecessary tension and pressure) opened for them a path of mastering extreme vocal techniques much faster than in cases of the most of people without such an experience.
I think that learning more about the voice emission - controlling the volume, the breath support and using resonance can really help you to unlock your full fry scream!
Fry noise is also something not that obvious, some people need few months to learn it so good job anyway. Fry noise is kind of between the vocal fry and fry scream so you are almost there.
I can make a vocal fry but it's little quite so I want to learn how to scream fry i thought if i give more air when I'm doing the vocal cry it's going to be louder but it's not. I still can't do it the scream
Hi! I recommend you to check out this video then, in the description there are also links to free course and e-book with exercises.
ua-cam.com/video/j_8OTtjv0VI/v-deo.html
I’m stuck on these highs one day I have them down then the next day I can’t get the distortion to sound crispy. It sounds flat.
Hello Ian! I replied to your email :)
Какая группа тебе нравится больше всего?
I don't know, the first that comes to my mind is Death :D
Is it normal to cough while doing it? I got the sound out but it tickled my throat :(
Hello, usually it's a sign that something is missing in your technique, for example:
1. The source of distortion is not precise enough,
2. You push too hard from your throat or chest (too much air or too high air pressure),
3. The breath support needs improvement.
4. Maybe your voice needs a better singing warm up.
5. There are constrictions in your jaw, root of the tongue or epiglottis etc. and they cause the discomfort
If any of the things above relate to your situation, check out the materials about breath support, warm up and growl on this channel. They should help to solve the issues.
Dude injusy csnt get that compression down. I feel that when i do the HU sound to close the vocal cords i relax them to much when trying to push air out.
Did you try other methods? Maybe this one doesn't suit your voice. When I practice with my students, sometimes we need to check 4 or rarerly even more different ways before we discover something that works well.
There's a whole playlist dedictated to the fry scream, feel free to check it out and let me know if you found something helpful :)
2:13 your phone is ringing bro
XD
You made me realise that ı was doin it wrong
There are many ways for learning the fry scream. Why do you think you were doing it wrong? :D
@@sibilaextremevocal ı think ı was adding too much distortion
Whenever I try to add it up after holding my breath i sound like a grandpa 😭
It might be caused by over-compression, whispering or letting out the air without making any sound.
bro....why you so cute? I'm gay now.
:D