Saw 4 Himalayan riders literally crying and repairing punctures during ladakh trip. All were solo, I was solo on Dominar, Leh to Nyoma, did with a huge and thick steel screw embedded in my rear tyre. Came to know of screw at karu petrol pump. Imagine it is your 15th day Solo, evening 4 pm in mountains, and a Himalayan with puncture . East or west Himalayan is best near your home with puncture shopwala nearby.
North to South, East to West, or in any direction, Triumph 400X is the most practical, except unavailability of service centres and seat height adjustability, of course. This is from my 32 years of riding experience. Period. This comparison of Bulu Bhai is 99% true for me.
Totally agree with your views. I own a scrambler. In fact, I also had booked both scrambler and Himalayan. Because of the fact that Himalayan comes with tube tyres and I'll have only one machine in my garage which has to do at least 60% city ride, I choose Scrambler.
Logical and genuine reviews as always. Being an owner of Himalayan (BS4) with 51k on the odo I was shocked to hear RE hasn't fixed the steering cone issue even in the new one. But no other issue with my bike till date.
Bulu Bhai...you are a true UA-camr....we admire your contents a lot....every way you think for subscribers first..from common buyer prospective... rather than giving a hype to RE.... thanks Bulu Bhai...
Very honest review 👍.. Himalayan costs 2.85 to 2.98 lacs ex showroom now.. Add on to it proper mod for alloys & tubeless tyres to have first level peace of mind!!.. Already Bangalore on road price would be 3.75 to 3.90!!.. Plus tyre mod of about 30-40K.. Easily over 4 lacs!!.. You get Speed400 for just 3.1 lacs on road Bangalore!.. Until you are crazy about offroad.. It doesn't make sense to pay 1 lac over a bike Speed 400..
@@pkd3038 sir I don't think Hero will be able to do that, as they focus more on value for money products. But I wish they launch a bigger version of the bike soon
Review from the heart, truth with no barriers and never forgetting the struggling masses or your own roots. Please never change and become biased like many others. In motor vlogging you're one of my heroes Bulu Bhai. Hoping to meet you some day 🙏🏼🙂
Agreed! Scrambler is the best all rounder and more fun to ride on city, easy to navigate, low and mid end torque is awesome. Himalayan is good for touring, which we only do 5% for general rider.
Bulu bhai, I loved what you said about contentment creators being biased about himalayan. Superb honest statements as Always. I sold my Adv 390 after 3500kms due to low end torque issue and poor suspension and bought the scrambler 400x. Best decision I ever made. Feels great
Took a test ride of Scrambler and Himalayan back to back, while forcing the Himalayan fan inside me to be objective,i must admit that Bullu is absolutely right. Along with everything he said, when you compare both bikes side by side himalyan feels and looks atleast 50k cheaper than scrambler while in actuals Scrambler is the cheaper bike and also felt RE has gotten greedy with the pricing. Himalyan does have a charm and lots of character but Scrambler is sturdy, elegant, rides better in City,surprisingly better VFM and just makes sense as a do it all bike. My father( a hard core bullet fan) couldn't believe when I told him that Triumph was the cheaper one( also Not to discount the attractive 5.07% interest rate on Triumph bikes while paying 55%+ down payment) Decision time: Heart was with himalyan and mind was with Scrambler, took the tough but practical decision of renting either one of the bikes when required(for trips)and ditched the plan of buying. Will save up for next 2-3 more years and go for the bigger Himalyan 852 when it gets launched. Don't expect it to be perfect but that will be the worthy successor of mighty Him 411.
Finally someone said the truth..and as always it's bullu bhai. Unnecessary hype for himalayan. I have owned bs6 2021 himalayan and that bike made me cry for 2 years. I have been to service centre for almost 40times. Problem with Enfield is they don't have big issues. Issue are as small as relay and fuse and battery problem. But it just keep coming back. Triumph with Bajaj has put up a beautiful bike which one can seriously consider. And yes 99% of UA-cam are biased towards himalayan. Yes it's a great product and a big step ahead but it's not the end of world as they are portraying. Within just month of lauch they have hiked the price by 15k which clearly proves the point that they have taken their loyal customer for granted. Every single thing you have to purchase. 100% agree with bullu bhai 🎉
I stopped paying heed to majority of the UA-camrs opinions (especially the biggest in the industry) after I learnt how much bias they have towards Royal Enfield. . . Their RE videos always is nothing more than an entertainment for me. . .
After watching all the review videos, I would say Dominar 400 can still be considered as a good motorcycle if it comes to daily commute & highway cruising. D400 is 3.07L on road Bengaluru incl all accessories. Him450 incl all accessories would be near 4L. The console is a color TFT screen in Him & torque is just 5Nm more than D400. Bas 5Nm torque ke liye spending 1Lakh extra is no good as per what I understood. Him has better tank range but also makes it heavy. Being a short guy, its very difficult to pick it up from side stand.
I fully agree with your views. Royal Enfield is a cheater and cheaper mentality company. I have their interceptor 650. I booked Himalayan. After sale they don’t bother to know what happened to the buyer. Except tyres and tank they want to sell everything as accessories. Service centres are everywhere, but ultimately you have to tow it their service centre. My interceptor has an habit of dying in the middle of the road and no CPR would revive it. And on each of death they took months together to return. Now I have to rethink whether to buy the hyped Himalayan or not. The service centres such as Niran motor’s Mangalore treats the customers like beggars
Truly appreciate Bubu bhai's comments regarding availability of spoked wheels without tube . During my MBA days ,30 years back I had presented a paper suggesting the dealers for providing the options to swap the spoked wheels with Mag wheels etc by paying the differential amount . Customers should have the option for customization either from the manufacturers or dealers instead of buying things which will be replaced as per preferences, which sadly has not yet been offered. Kudos for the unbiased review ❤
Well said bullu bhai, exactly what i felt about these both bike and at this 22:03 point you cracked the truth behind the social media influences. When i was confused which motorcycle to buy at period 2018 to 2019 most of your videos helped me purchase the best fit and also close to my decision also, so i brought dominar 400; there are some drawbacks on that motorcycle but still doing some upgrades fixed it. Now I'm not interested to go for another motorcycle because my upgraded dominar helps to good extent. While I watch and hear about RE and other motorcycle I was wondering what in the earth big deal about these and you nailed it to the ground.
Bulu bro, I like the way you put things naturally. Love the fact how you mention how a tubeless wheel is the need of the hour. The comparison you draw is great. I've gradually graduated from one bike to another... I've booked the kaza brown and my first investment is going to be a glue kit. Love your thoughts and channel. Keep the good work going.
So Logical So Genuine And you just spoke like a Wow..... One of the best and honest review of both great machines. Well evaluated with priorities... Very Analytical crisp and sharp.... Keep shining Bulu Bhai and keep inspiring ❤🎉🎉
Great honest opinion bulu bhai! You spoke the reality. RE is mostly focusing on their business. They are completely money minded now. New prices of Himalayan just blew my mind. When a big brand like triumph launched at attractive price. Dont know how RE is so confident with respect to thier prices despite the competition. May be because of paid UA-camrs, marketing and promotions 😂😂 I recently bought my Scrambler 400X. I felt the same point as you mentioned. Also i stay in hubli there is no dealership in my city. I had to get it from Kolhapur. Which is 200kms away. I took risk and i bought it. So far so good. Happily enjoying my bike.
No one can understand a customer's mindset better than Bulu bhaina. Genuine suggestions that helps an avg consumer with a limited budget. Thanks a lot bhaina❤
I currently own a jawa 42, again a lot of people might not like the bike for various reasons but the bike is a city roarer, can give most of the bikes a run for their money... But again, perspective is perspective. Still, like the way you keep it simple and realistic and don't try to take people into biker heaven by glorifying stuff. Good work 🤘
Intelligent and meaningful conversation. I am riding Classic 500 and now I am aiming for 400X and the reason behind is that 1st the spoke wheels of Himalayan 450, 2nd the nimble nature of 400X, 3rd as a single bike garage I feel 400 X will serve my purpose better with 80% of daily commute and 20% occasional long distance rides. The only blocker for 400X is the dealership is 200 kms away from my place. Should I take the chance of owning a bike without a dealer nearby? ( Once a year I can manage service there) Or should I stick to the companies with dealer present in my city like RE and may be check there GR 450?
In 2017 i had to choose btwn dominar and himalayan. My thoughts we exactly like bulu bhai. My usage was 70% city 30% touring. Himalyan after test ride I thought would pe pain to use everyday. Also being thunderbird owner i didnt like the RE quality. Today my dominar has clocked 45k kms without a single rupee spent on repairs. And now that i am changing my bike again its himalayan vs scrambler 400 again. No doubt i will be going for scram 400. Both are good. But you decide whats good for you.
You've just ben lucky with your product. Bajaj''s QC isn't great. (Not saying others are better) I've already seen a broken swingarm of scrambler on facebook.
@@sanketjain9320 u drop a bike like that any bike will break.. its not like it broke down for no reason... my frnd dropped speed twice n nothing happened... before u say swingarm broke u shud think what is the reason
I already have a scooty for city commute in Bangalore and purchasing a bike primarily for touring with a pillion and luggage. What do you suggest bulu bhai. I have done long test rides on both the bikes and liked both of them so kinda confused.
Sir What You have done for Your Himalaya PPF OR CERAMIC coting for the body. Please answer Because I will also be getting my bike and I want to plan it
Very good video, to the point and honest opinion. I could very well relate it to my confusion. Your this video cleared everything and I made my bike decision. Cheers 👍🏻
People should also understand the difference between, rough road(broken&kaccha), offroad and trails. Most of us face Rough roads not offroads. If there a designated destinations with a pathways were human being even occasionally go itl mostly be rough roads. Which mean as "longish" travel suspension with alloy with decent ground clearance can do it.
Bullu bhai sold my baker express interceptor today, out of these two which one should i buy just for reference k am 6’2” and sold jnty because it was uncomfortable
Scrambler ke liye khujli ho raha tha, but I'm so in love with by CB350. 550km tank range, minimum maintenance, 19" front wheel, Ladakh, Mechuka, Walong karr chuka hai, 80-90kmph pe butter smooth ... aur kya chahiye. Appreciate this even more after this video.
@@BuluBiker it's very hard to get a 50:50 type tire for the CB350 rear (130/70-18) ... the only option is Ralco, which I'm not too keen about. I started looking at Reise as you suggested and they have a TrailR 50-1, but not anywhere available in Kolkata, neither on the website. Do you have any contact # who can help me procure one, sirji?
Thanks for the detailed review. I have an interceptor and a 2022 Himalayan. Wanted to change the Himalayan but am not really sure about the new one. Will wait for some more time. Also am looking for the 650 scrambler. That may solve all my requirements and I can go with just one bike
I'm totally with you bulubhai, you are exactly on point, I am a xpulse owner and was considering Himalayan, bt now I think sram 400x is best as per my need...
Bulu bhai, I totally agree with your views & the honest comparison of the two machines. In case of a puncture which can happen anytime while riding, it's a tough task to repair tube tyrs in cold harsh weather conditions / off road trails/inclines even if youve the skill & toolkit to repair the same !
Bulu bhai you are right I am a Himalayan 411 rider. And believe me Those who asked me about the 450 I told them to wait for 1st or 2nd Update of this bike. AND I AM 100% SURE THAT RE WILL UPDATE THE TUBELESS WHEELS ON THERE 1st or 2nd UPDATE OF THIS BIKE AS THERE TOP MODEL HIMALAYAN. Like they are doing on the INTERCEPTOR AND GT.
If one can have a scooty for the city commutes and let's say the tubeless spokes are available tomorrow, would you say the Himalayan is a much better bike than scrambler? I think the wide handlebars of the scrambler would be a hindrance in the city. Also, what are basic plastic knuckle guards helpful for? They dont protect the levers, which anyways break only from the ends.
Yes then Himalayan is a better bike for sure. Plastic knuckle guards protect ur knuckles when some other vehicle hit from right n they also stop from accidental hit of ur front brake lever while u r on the move n some vehicle hit on ur right side handlebar, they take the shock of the accident n break thats exactly what they r meant to do (not many people under that) Exactly why even advs worth 20lakhs plus like Africa twin comes with plastic guards only.
I had also booked scrambler but went ahead with Himalayan, because Scrambler has engine issues, low service network, regarding accessories same problem with both the brands its worse in triumph, Atleast some accessories started arriving at dealers for Himalayan, ya biggest Disadvantage with Himalaya is tube tyres, but man it's bigger better bike than scrambler
An honest review, really I feel too ke RE ke fans kuch bura sunna hi nahi chahate hai, I own Interceptor and it’s damn heavy upar se tube tyre …abhi jo problematic hai use accept Karne me itna kya problem hai….
bulu bhai ikdum, sach bol re yar, mera ikdum mood off hogya ta, kitna mast rehta agar sath me launch krta ya fir, ek version alloys ke sath kr dete optional me
Very true my most favorite moto vlogger...who always stayed as moto vlogger and mostly car vlogger....really true review...but am planning for RE 650...ot has real power
Bulu Bhai, Just waiting for this video from you, lots of other channels have uploaded this comparison but solely waiting for your video to make up my mind and make the final decision, the points you discussed, even I was considering the same and almost 70% inclined to Scram400X rest 30% you clear up,......Thank you so much, will wait for your detailed touring experience on Scram 400X , take care and ride safe. Regards.
Currently, I have a 2020 Classic 350. I plan to upgrade it, but I am confused between the Himalayan 450, Scrambler 400X, and Guerilla 450. RE exchange cost is 1.4 lakh; because of this revaluation cost, I’m able to upgrade it. So, please advise on this.
@@radarroi27 Man....are u for real....Speed is mainly for city use...Scrambler is an all in one bike...I know any bike can do anything...but its better to invest some extra and get an all in one bike. 😉
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fvthis shows ur mediocrity...i didn't offend him in any way...19 inch wheel vs 17 inch wheel..just this makes a whole world of difference in terms of Suspension...that's what i have said to him. Speed is an Excellent bike but Scrambler is better.
“Sir, I am highly confused between the Himalayan and the Scrambler. The distance of Royal Enfield showroom and Triumph is same for my house. Please suggest which bike I should choose. I will be using the bike 70% for touring and 30% for city commuting. I am around 6 feet tall, living in Uttarakhand, mostly in Mussoorie, and I have to travel almost 90% of the time in remote mountain areas. Please advise.”
I agree with many of these points. This will help himialyan 450 to take care. Tubeless tyre is real requirement, also, himalayan is behind KTM on features. Himalayan should give all features and bikers who can buy it will buy it.
I really agree Bulu vai. But the main problem is (as Tier 3 citizen) Triumph has no showroom in our city and some Tier 2 has not 1 showroom. So for us it's tough to buy this kind of machine. But still it's a dream for us to buy this kind of machine.
I was looking to upgrade my xpulse 200 4v and been doing some research and I feel like I should go for 2 cylinder bike and I don't want sports category bike naked or adv around 5 lac is the budget please suggest something. I know Ktm adv 390 is single cylinder bike I like that one😅
I own a Scrambler 400x.. I am fortunate enough to own two more motorcycle zx10r and a adv390… just wanted to give you a sense that I am a experienced biker and trust me whoever is complaining about scrambler 400x vibrations I dont know what type of single cylinder they own..I felt scrambler has less vibrations than adv390.. initial RPMs till 6000 its a breeze..and no annoying vibs at all ..its not an electric vehicle that one should expect to perform vibeless..I have never been a RE fan because of vibration and quality issues..Himalayan visual quality wise its has improved a lot..have to see how good himalayan scores in the performance quality after a year or so…its like Tata they are doing a very good job but a long way to go…but Bullu bhai very nice points and awesome video ..😊
Loved the perspective you have given in this video. I am now second guessing my decision for the Himalayan. But how about the luggage setup for touring with a pillion on a Scrambler?? Can you please guide??
That's a very good point Bulu bhai. I also got the new HImalayan. It would have been better if there was an option to configure the seats and wheels. Now I'll be left with extra seats and rims which the compnay will not buy back.
"Definately I'll own a scrambler because that's a motorcycle to be parked in the garage" It says all about the scrambler and your motercycling knowledge....🙏
10 months have passed since Bulu Bhai has posted this video. Finally now RE has given the option of tubeless spoke wheels on Himalayan 450 and the cost is in the vicinity of Rs.12,000 /-.
Bulu bhai thanks from the bottom of my heart. Im going to Bbsr nxt week to book my 400x I own Enfields 500 & 650 and saw RE's duplicity with Intercptr touring seat..which is not an option but an addition to stock seat. Cunning..besi changela... And Bro looks..what bike looks like the Scrambler 400 x..it just seems perfect
Ive shifted from classic 350 to scrambler 400x . Whatever bulu bhai said , I have experienced the same regarding the functionality of the 400x. Its a sad thing ive to go 240kms for service centre but rest in city and for 50-50 highway tours i felt my investment was worth it. Ive booked himalayan 450 too but since my delivery was late i went for the triumph. I am planning to purchase the Himalayan too for long tours in coming the month. But when the scrambler is loaded with luggage the bike stays on the ground during bumps feels extremely pleasant to ride.
I guess the ground clearance of 195 mm is more than sufficient for indian road conditions and even for Ladakh terrains. In that case I don't think you need to go with the Himalayan when your requirements are getting fulfilled with the 400X. Rest is up to you. But what made you to book Himalayan as well? May I know the reason. Are you comfortable at 100-120 kmph cruising on 400x and how is the fuel efficiency at that speed and also how much evident are the vibrations at those high speeds? I would be glad if you reply me. Cheers.😃😃
Bhai I sold my reborn classic 350 recently....and I am too planning for a Speed or Scrambler....my nearest showroom is also 200kms away from my home 😂. So there are similarities with you! Can you please guide me on the following things - 1. Does scrambler feel like as heavier as the new classic 350 in real life? Does it also feel difficult to push it backwards when it is in parking? 2. My height is 5ft7in. How my height is going to be felt on Scrambler with respect to Classic? 3. How is the mileage with respect to Classic. Actual difference when you ride on 6th gear at 60-70kmph speed. 4. Difference on comfort. Because I hate stiff suspension set up as RE bikes are offering now. Please put some valuable insights. Thank you in advance!😊 Jai Hind
@@suryateja2k11 100-120 is a bliss compared to my older bike. Can overtake easily. Fuel economy is really bad. It shows 25kmpl but i guess is lesser, why? Because my home is like 240-250 km away from where i am posted currently and i didn’t reached home at 10 ltrs of tank. I required like around 2-3 ltrs extra. And vibrations are there once you reach 150kmph at 6th gear and like 10000rpm. Here the Himalayan gets the lead incase of rpm. My hands were tired after few minutes. So i guess it performs more than enough at 100-120 mark and is also a good cruising speed. I’ve booked the Himalayan at first. RE is RE for real bike was getting late . It has still not arrived yet. So i took a test drive of the scrambler too , my city got a brand new triumph showroom for the first time, got excited for that too. Triumph has been a childhood dream moreover needed a bike for office ASAP 😅 i sold my classic few months back for the new Himalayan only but fate had other plans. One more thing i noticed regarding this bike, after long rides RE bikes chain gets loose. I need to tighten my 350,s chain constantly after rides. I am not getting that issue here. I am loving the bike so much no number plate yet . It’s only like 15-20 days completed 2000kms already.
@@Enigmatic123 1.The scrambler feels lighter but that dosent means it is like ktms. Triumph has done a good work regarding quality and placement of components, trust me you don’t want to open the tank its a puzzle inside there. And try pushing youre bike in neutral , not while pulling the clutch in gear it helps me alot trust me. Somehow makes the bike lighter 2. Even i am of the same height almost, 1 inch shorter i can place my toe on both legs. Try balancing one leg it will be much easier , you wont feel the slanting of the bike. 3. If you’re thinking about mileage with this bike, then it wont help you. Classic has better mileage. I get around 23kmpl.😭 4. Comfort is excellent for rider. Pillion seat is good and comfortable as well but scary sudden throttle might scare the pillion. 😆
Nice and honest review sir. I was really confused between scram400x and Himalayan. But your opinion helped me alot, going with scram now. I'm from Pune do visit it once sir, we'll love to meet you in person and Keep going doing a great job.
Bingo in having the similar thoughts. I just don't know how much our thinking match tht makes wanting to meet you once 😊. I have subscribed to so many channels but no one connects me as u do. Super video Bulu bhai, i too am inclined towards scrambler just bcz of reliability issue of re, weight of re and size of the bike, I guess I can add mileage also in this list as scrambler being lighter and lesser cc will have better mileage.
Topi Matlab RE 😅😅. Sir Triamph is more Relaible but KTM adventure adjustable suspension was Outstanding Mind-blowing sir.. love from Alipurduar west bengal
SCRAMBLER 400X VS GRR450 VS CB350RS use case: 80% touring + 20% city Height is 168cm and has inseam of 29inchs coming from activa 5g but had experience of bike riding needs form bike 1. stress free cruising on 90-100kmph 2. enough power to go anywhere in india 3. good suspension ( as we know indian roads) 4. mileage atleast 25+ ( as a future clg student) want to keep an single bike in my garage for all use cases ( yess we had and scooty and other vehicles), and will not sell it .
bulu bhai konsi bike self ko maza degi isko determine karna is very tough and it changes from situation to situation , for me it was thunderbird 15 yrs back and now it is hunter , though the price iw bot even close to my mo thly salary but still i took it as it exceeds my expectations in city and dqily rides.and as far as RE brand goes it was always like this only and now accessories costs a lot
Hello, i got your chanel trough JS paji . Now I'm in big trouble I want to buy a bike but i can justify which is best feet for me. My height is 6 feet ,in my choice KTM 390 X, Royal Enfield 452, triumph scrambler 400X, Harley Davidson 440x, BMW gs310 .. the main purpose of the purchasing is touring and most of the touring destination is hill station, so as you're a experienced rider please advise me which one should i peak.
Saw 4 Himalayan riders literally crying and repairing punctures during ladakh trip.
All were solo, I was solo on Dominar,
Leh to Nyoma, did with a huge and thick steel screw embedded in my rear tyre.
Came to know of screw at karu petrol pump.
Imagine it is your 15th day Solo, evening 4 pm in mountains, and a Himalayan with puncture .
East or west Himalayan is best near your home with puncture shopwala nearby.
North to South, East to West, or in any direction, Triumph 400X is the most practical, except unavailability of service centres and seat height adjustability, of course. This is from my 32 years of riding experience. Period. This comparison of Bulu Bhai is 99% true for me.
Totally agree with your views. I own a scrambler. In fact, I also had booked both scrambler and Himalayan. Because of the fact that Himalayan comes with tube tyres and I'll have only one machine in my garage which has to do at least 60% city ride, I choose Scrambler.
Bullu speaks what we audience wants to hear, crisp, unbiased, from the heart. Thanks Bullu, keep up the good work
Logical and genuine reviews as always. Being an owner of Himalayan (BS4) with 51k on the odo I was shocked to hear RE hasn't fixed the steering cone issue even in the new one. But no other issue with my bike till date.
Life me himalyan profile me ktm😅😅 if you are owning both then congratulations 🎉
@@harshitsingh9467 yes I do, bro. Thank you. And my KTM RC 390 is the BS3 model. Complete hoot to ride
A much needed comparison and always wanted this from you Bulu bhai. Aap sab wo point cover karte ho ek middle class bande ka dimag me hota hai
Bulu Bhai...you are a true UA-camr....we admire your contents a lot....every way you think for subscribers first..from common buyer prospective... rather than giving a hype to RE.... thanks Bulu Bhai...
Very honest review 👍.. Himalayan costs 2.85 to 2.98 lacs ex showroom now.. Add on to it proper mod for alloys & tubeless tyres to have first level peace of mind!!..
Already Bangalore on road price would be 3.75 to 3.90!!.. Plus tyre mod of about 30-40K.. Easily over 4 lacs!!..
You get Speed400 for just 3.1 lacs on road Bangalore!..
Until you are crazy about offroad.. It doesn't make sense to pay 1 lac over a bike Speed 400..
Yes sir exactly
The Triumphs are great motorcycles but the primary issue is their lack of showrooms in smaller towns of the country.
It's my request through you, kindly inform hero to introduce Tubeless option for xpulse
@@pkd3038 sir I don't think Hero will be able to do that, as they focus more on value for money products. But I wish they launch a bigger version of the bike soon
Review from the heart, truth with no barriers and never forgetting the struggling masses or your own roots. Please never change and become biased like many others. In motor vlogging you're one of my heroes Bulu Bhai. Hoping to meet you some day 🙏🏼🙂
Thank u sir
Agreed! Scrambler is the best all rounder and more fun to ride on city, easy to navigate, low and mid end torque is awesome. Himalayan is good for touring, which we only do 5% for general rider.
Bulu bhai, I loved what you said about contentment creators being biased about himalayan. Superb honest statements as Always. I sold my Adv 390 after 3500kms due to low end torque issue and poor suspension and bought the scrambler 400x. Best decision I ever made. Feels great
Took a test ride of Scrambler and Himalayan back to back, while forcing the Himalayan fan inside me to be objective,i must admit that Bullu is absolutely right. Along with everything he said, when you compare both bikes side by side himalyan feels and looks atleast 50k cheaper than scrambler while in actuals Scrambler is the cheaper bike and also felt RE has gotten greedy with the pricing. Himalyan does have a charm and lots of character but Scrambler is sturdy, elegant, rides better in City,surprisingly better VFM and just makes sense as a do it all bike. My father( a hard core bullet fan) couldn't believe when I told him that Triumph was the cheaper one( also Not to discount the attractive 5.07% interest rate on Triumph bikes while paying 55%+ down payment)
Decision time:
Heart was with himalyan and mind was with Scrambler, took the tough but practical decision of renting either one of the bikes when required(for trips)and ditched the plan of buying. Will save up for next 2-3 more years and go for the bigger Himalyan 852 when it gets launched. Don't expect it to be perfect but that will be the worthy successor of mighty Him 411.
Finally someone said the truth..and as always it's bullu bhai.
Unnecessary hype for himalayan. I have owned bs6 2021 himalayan and that bike made me cry for 2 years. I have been to service centre for almost 40times. Problem with Enfield is they don't have big issues. Issue are as small as relay and fuse and battery problem. But it just keep coming back.
Triumph with Bajaj has put up a beautiful bike which one can seriously consider.
And yes 99% of UA-cam are biased towards himalayan.
Yes it's a great product and a big step ahead but it's not the end of world as they are portraying.
Within just month of lauch they have hiked the price by 15k which clearly proves the point that they have taken their loyal customer for granted.
Every single thing you have to purchase.
100% agree with bullu bhai 🎉
Thank you so much for understanding brother not everyone understands this.
Same here. 2022 model.
I stopped paying heed to majority of the UA-camrs opinions (especially the biggest in the industry) after I learnt how much bias they have towards Royal Enfield. . . Their RE videos always is nothing more than an entertainment for me. . .
After watching all the review videos, I would say Dominar 400 can still be considered as a good motorcycle if it comes to daily commute & highway cruising. D400 is 3.07L on road Bengaluru incl all accessories. Him450 incl all accessories would be near 4L. The console is a color TFT screen in Him & torque is just 5Nm more than D400. Bas 5Nm torque ke liye spending 1Lakh extra is no good as per what I understood. Him has better tank range but also makes it heavy. Being a short guy, its very difficult to pick it up from side stand.
Also tubeless tyre is the main reason
Exactly, adding fuelx pro and custom suspension from zedling suspension also Apolo tramplr xr or Michelin road 5 will turn dominar the Road King 👑
I fully agree with your views. Royal Enfield is a cheater and cheaper mentality company. I have their interceptor 650. I booked Himalayan. After sale they don’t bother to know what happened to the buyer. Except tyres and tank they want to sell everything as accessories. Service centres are everywhere, but ultimately you have to tow it their service centre. My interceptor has an habit of dying in the middle of the road and no CPR would revive it. And on each of death they took months together to return. Now I have to rethink whether to buy the hyped Himalayan or not. The service centres such as Niran motor’s Mangalore treats the customers like beggars
How many times it died ...
Any idea why it kept happening ...( What the service guy told )
bro you're the most genuine biker known you from jaysn's vlogs stopped watching his an year ago
Truly appreciate Bubu bhai's comments regarding availability of spoked wheels without tube . During my MBA days ,30 years back I had presented a paper suggesting the dealers for providing the options to swap the spoked wheels with Mag wheels etc by paying the differential amount . Customers should have the option for customization either from the manufacturers or dealers instead of buying things which will be replaced as per preferences, which sadly has not yet been offered. Kudos for the unbiased review ❤
That's great to know sir.
Well said bullu bhai, exactly what i felt about these both bike and at this 22:03 point you cracked the truth behind the social media influences.
When i was confused which motorcycle to buy at period 2018 to 2019 most of your videos helped me purchase the best fit and also close to my decision also, so i brought dominar 400; there are some drawbacks on that motorcycle but still doing some upgrades fixed it.
Now I'm not interested to go for another motorcycle because my upgraded dominar helps to good extent.
While I watch and hear about RE and other motorcycle I was wondering what in the earth big deal about these and you nailed it to the ground.
Thank u so much sir
On point and extremely logical explanation as always Mr. Bulu. Great to see such content.
Bulu bro, I like the way you put things naturally. Love the fact how you mention how a tubeless wheel is the need of the hour. The comparison you draw is great. I've gradually graduated from one bike to another... I've booked the kaza brown and my first investment is going to be a glue kit. Love your thoughts and channel. Keep the good work going.
So Logical
So Genuine
And you just spoke like a Wow.....
One of the best and honest review of both great machines. Well evaluated with priorities... Very Analytical crisp and sharp.... Keep shining Bulu Bhai and keep inspiring ❤🎉🎉
Great honest opinion bulu bhai! You spoke the reality. RE is mostly focusing on their business. They are completely money minded now. New prices of Himalayan just blew my mind. When a big brand like triumph launched at attractive price. Dont know how RE is so confident with respect to thier prices despite the competition. May be because of paid UA-camrs, marketing and promotions 😂😂
I recently bought my Scrambler 400X. I felt the same point as you mentioned. Also i stay in hubli there is no dealership in my city. I had to get it from Kolhapur. Which is 200kms away. I took risk and i bought it. So far so good. Happily enjoying my bike.
@PassionateBiker, How is your experience with bike? Any problems or niggles??
U r honest man! That's a rare trait, these days....I would give u that😊.
No one can understand a customer's mindset better than Bulu bhaina. Genuine suggestions that helps an avg consumer with a limited budget. Thanks a lot bhaina❤
Bro hats off to your clear analysis... Many of us are having single bike and also the accessories part not launched with the bike...
I currently own a jawa 42, again a lot of people might not like the bike for various reasons but the bike is a city roarer, can give most of the bikes a run for their money... But again, perspective is perspective. Still, like the way you keep it simple and realistic and don't try to take people into biker heaven by glorifying stuff. Good work 🤘
Fantastic points. Only a rider can talk like this. Most UA-camrs are just UA-camrs,not riders. Do not buy a machine for its exception! Well said.
Intelligent and meaningful conversation.
I am riding Classic 500 and now I am aiming for 400X and the reason behind is that 1st the spoke wheels of Himalayan 450, 2nd the nimble nature of 400X, 3rd as a single bike garage I feel 400 X will serve my purpose better with 80% of daily commute and 20% occasional long distance rides.
The only blocker for 400X is the dealership is 200 kms away from my place.
Should I take the chance of owning a bike without a dealer nearby? ( Once a year I can manage service there)
Or should I stick to the companies with dealer present in my city like RE and may be check there GR 450?
I feel , triumph is more reliable than RE. You don't have to visit the service center that regularly
In 2017 i had to choose btwn dominar and himalayan. My thoughts we exactly like bulu bhai. My usage was 70% city 30% touring. Himalyan after test ride I thought would pe pain to use everyday. Also being thunderbird owner i didnt like the RE quality. Today my dominar has clocked 45k kms without a single rupee spent on repairs. And now that i am changing my bike again its himalayan vs scrambler 400 again. No doubt i will be going for scram 400. Both are good. But you decide whats good for you.
You've just ben lucky with your product. Bajaj''s QC isn't great. (Not saying others are better)
I've already seen a broken swingarm of scrambler on facebook.
@@sanketjain9320 u drop a bike like that any bike will break.. its not like it broke down for no reason... my frnd dropped speed twice n nothing happened... before u say swingarm broke u shud think what is the reason
On point, Very Valid and important points to note by manufacturers.
Thank you Bulu bhai for speaking out for many.
Fantastic Bulu Bhai 💐🌷👍
💯 th comment is mine, Aap Sahi bole ho vlog mein 😊
East or west triumph is the best 😊
I already have a scooty for city commute in Bangalore and purchasing a bike primarily for touring with a pillion and luggage. What do you suggest bulu bhai. I have done long test rides on both the bikes and liked both of them so kinda confused.
Definitely Himalayan sir
I would recommend xpulse 😂
Sir What You have done for Your Himalaya PPF OR CERAMIC coting for the body. Please answer Because I will also be getting my bike and I want to plan it
Sir for bikes ceramic is of no use... go for ppf only
Very good video, to the point and honest opinion. I could very well relate it to my confusion. Your this video cleared everything and I made my bike decision. Cheers 👍🏻
Very well articulated. I test rode both. Scrambler is very easy to ride and feels effortlessly fun in the city.
Blue Bhai aap ne bahut accha baat bola,thank you so much,Aisa hi guide Karie hum logo ko.
This is the honesty we can only expect from og youtubers like Bulu bhai.
People should also understand the difference between, rough road(broken&kaccha), offroad and trails.
Most of us face Rough roads not offroads. If there a designated destinations with a pathways were human being even occasionally go itl mostly be rough roads. Which mean as "longish" travel suspension with alloy with decent ground clearance can do it.
Aapki yehi chij to achi h, unbiased baat bolte ho...keep it up Bullu bhai
Bullu bhai sold my baker express interceptor today, out of these two which one should i buy just for reference k am 6’2” and sold jnty because it was uncomfortable
Bht achi baaten boli balu bhaie...mere mann ki baate kr di aaj .. Great Job 👍
Very good explanation. Felt very genuine and serious.
When is this video coming out for the 450 with new tyres? 21:33
Scrambler ke liye khujli ho raha tha, but I'm so in love with by CB350. 550km tank range, minimum maintenance, 19" front wheel, Ladakh, Mechuka, Walong karr chuka hai, 80-90kmph pe butter smooth ... aur kya chahiye. Appreciate this even more after this video.
Absolutely sir its a very good bike in the segment
@@BuluBiker it's very hard to get a 50:50 type tire for the CB350 rear (130/70-18) ... the only option is Ralco, which I'm not too keen about.
I started looking at Reise as you suggested and they have a TrailR 50-1, but not anywhere available in Kolkata, neither on the website. Do you have any contact # who can help me procure one, sirji?
@@udayshome1793 let me see from Reise sir
Thanks for the detailed review. I have an interceptor and a 2022 Himalayan. Wanted to change the Himalayan but am not really sure about the new one. Will wait for some more time.
Also am looking for the 650 scrambler. That may solve all my requirements and I can go with just one bike
A time worth invested to this video... absolutely to the point and cent% practical sayings till date
I think value for money bike is himalayan
Best suspension
Big tank
Electronic
Accessories option
Better looks
You seem honest and to the point. Subscribed! 🙏🏼
I'm totally with you bulubhai, you are exactly on point, I am a xpulse owner and was considering Himalayan, bt now I think sram 400x is best as per my need...
Now since we get tubeless spokes at 11k do you recommend getting the himalayan 450 now?
Absolutely, very good value for money u should buy. Also RE has slowly taken care of initial issues, so now it is a good time to buy
@@BuluBiker Bas bhai abhi book kar hi rha hu 🙂
Bulu bhai, I totally agree with your views & the honest comparison of the two machines. In case of a puncture which can happen anytime while riding, it's a tough task to repair tube tyrs in cold harsh weather conditions / off road trails/inclines even if youve the skill & toolkit to repair the same !
Thats why we love Bulu Bhai's review. Only realtime thought that we can relate, genuine review,
Thank you for always providing genuine and well informed reviews. Keep growing Sir!
Bulu bhai you are right I am a Himalayan 411 rider. And believe me Those who asked me about the 450 I told them to wait for 1st or 2nd Update of this bike. AND I AM 100% SURE THAT RE WILL UPDATE THE TUBELESS WHEELS ON THERE 1st or 2nd UPDATE OF THIS BIKE AS THERE TOP MODEL HIMALAYAN. Like they are doing on the INTERCEPTOR AND GT.
If one can have a scooty for the city commutes and let's say the tubeless spokes are available tomorrow, would you say the Himalayan is a much better bike than scrambler? I think the wide handlebars of the scrambler would be a hindrance in the city.
Also, what are basic plastic knuckle guards helpful for? They dont protect the levers, which anyways break only from the ends.
Yes then Himalayan is a better bike for sure.
Plastic knuckle guards protect ur knuckles when some other vehicle hit from right n they also stop from accidental hit of ur front brake lever while u r on the move n some vehicle hit on ur right side handlebar, they take the shock of the accident n break thats exactly what they r meant to do (not many people under that)
Exactly why even advs worth 20lakhs plus like Africa twin comes with plastic guards only.
@@BuluBiker Understand, but then that's what riding gloves are for, right.
I had also booked scrambler but went ahead with Himalayan, because Scrambler has engine issues, low service network, regarding accessories same problem with both the brands its worse in triumph, Atleast some accessories started arriving at dealers for Himalayan, ya biggest Disadvantage with Himalaya is tube tyres, but man it's bigger better bike than scrambler
An honest review, really I feel too ke RE ke fans kuch bura sunna hi nahi chahate hai, I own Interceptor and it’s damn heavy upar se tube tyre …abhi jo problematic hai use accept Karne me itna kya problem hai….
Bulu bhai you exactly touched the right points. For a middle class people all the points you discussed matter a lot. Appriciate the content 👍👏
Thanks Bulu bhai , again for honest review. Now I feel Highness would be good for me.
bulu bhai ikdum, sach bol re yar, mera ikdum mood off hogya ta, kitna mast rehta agar sath me launch krta ya fir, ek version alloys ke sath kr dete optional me
Hamesha correct baat bol dete ho bulu bhai... isiliye main aap ka fan hu 😊
Very true my most favorite moto vlogger...who always stayed as moto vlogger and mostly car vlogger....really true review...but am planning for RE 650...ot has real power
Bulu Bhai, Just waiting for this video from you, lots of other channels have uploaded this comparison but solely waiting for your video to make up my mind and make the final decision, the points you discussed, even I was considering the same and almost 70% inclined to Scram400X rest 30% you clear up,......Thank you so much, will wait for your detailed touring experience on Scram 400X , take care and ride safe. Regards.
Currently, I have a 2020 Classic 350. I plan to upgrade it, but I am confused between the Himalayan 450, Scrambler 400X, and Guerilla 450. RE exchange cost is 1.4 lakh; because of this revaluation cost, I’m able to upgrade it. So, please advise on this.
Buy either himalaya or scrambler. Guerilla will be a flop bike.
Dil jit liya bullu bhai .. u understood the sentiments
Bulu bhai....The only issue with Scrambler for me is the SEAT HEIGHT..Is there any chance to swap a third party Low height seat on Scrambler?
That's exactly why they have a Speed 400 🙄. . .
@@radarroi27 Man....are u for real....Speed is mainly for city use...Scrambler is an all in one bike...I know any bike can do anything...but its better to invest some extra and get an all in one bike. 😉
Bro if you find anything share with me
@@mediocremedic8462your mediocrity extends to understanding. Bandey ka Sawaal to samjho...
Sahi jawaab diya tha ek bhai ney..lekin aapka lousy 25 cents..ugggh
@@sanjaysharma-jf8fvthis shows ur mediocrity...i didn't offend him in any way...19 inch wheel vs 17 inch wheel..just this makes a whole world of difference in terms of Suspension...that's what i have said to him. Speed is an Excellent bike but Scrambler is better.
For me RE himalayan 450 👍😊
“Sir, I am highly confused between the Himalayan and the Scrambler. The distance of Royal Enfield showroom and Triumph is same for my house.
Please suggest which bike I should choose.
I will be using the bike 70% for touring and 30% for city commuting.
I am around 6 feet tall, living in Uttarakhand, mostly in Mussoorie, and I have to travel almost 90% of the time in remote mountain areas.
Please advise.”
Bullu Bhai apne bilkul sahi baat Kia h regarding accessories and the company push us to go for high end option of any vehicle
I agree with many of these points. This will help himialyan 450 to take care. Tubeless tyre is real requirement, also, himalayan is behind KTM on features. Himalayan should give all features and bikers who can buy it will buy it.
Perfect point Bulu Bhai... These companies should not treat the customers as fools
I really agree Bulu vai. But the main problem is (as Tier 3 citizen) Triumph has no showroom in our city and some Tier 2 has not 1 showroom. So for us it's tough to buy this kind of machine. But still it's a dream for us to buy this kind of machine.
I was looking to upgrade my xpulse 200 4v and been doing some research and I feel like I should go for 2 cylinder bike and I don't want sports category bike naked or adv around 5 lac is the budget please suggest something.
I know Ktm adv 390 is single cylinder bike I like that one😅
I own a Scrambler 400x.. I am fortunate enough to own two more motorcycle zx10r and a adv390… just wanted to give you a sense that I am a experienced biker and trust me whoever is complaining about scrambler 400x vibrations I dont know what type of single cylinder they own..I felt scrambler has less vibrations than adv390.. initial RPMs till 6000 its a breeze..and no annoying vibs at all ..its not an electric vehicle that one should expect to perform vibeless..I have never been a RE fan because of vibration and quality issues..Himalayan visual quality wise its has improved a lot..have to see how good himalayan scores in the performance quality after a year or so…its like Tata they are doing a very good job but a long way to go…but Bullu bhai very nice points and awesome video ..😊
Thank u so much sir for accepting motorcycles as they are
Loved the perspective you have given in this video. I am now second guessing my decision for the Himalayan. But how about the luggage setup for touring with a pillion on a Scrambler?? Can you please guide??
That's a very good point Bulu bhai. I also got the new HImalayan. It would have been better if there was an option to configure the seats and wheels. Now I'll be left with extra seats and rims which the compnay will not buy back.
"Definately I'll own a scrambler because that's a motorcycle to be parked in the garage" It says all about the scrambler and your motercycling knowledge....🙏
10 months have passed since Bulu Bhai has posted this video. Finally now RE has given the option of tubeless spoke wheels on Himalayan 450 and the cost is in the vicinity of Rs.12,000 /-.
Lol sab kuch extra paisa😅
Bulu bhai thanks from the bottom of my heart. Im going to Bbsr nxt week to book my 400x
I own Enfields 500 & 650 and saw RE's duplicity with Intercptr touring seat..which is not an option but an addition to stock seat. Cunning..besi changela...
And Bro looks..what bike looks like the Scrambler 400 x..it just seems perfect
Ive shifted from classic 350 to scrambler 400x . Whatever bulu bhai said , I have experienced the same regarding the functionality of the 400x. Its a sad thing ive to go 240kms for service centre but rest in city and for 50-50 highway tours i felt my investment was worth it. Ive booked himalayan 450 too but since my delivery was late i went for the triumph. I am planning to purchase the Himalayan too for long tours in coming the month. But when the scrambler is loaded with luggage the bike stays on the ground during bumps feels extremely pleasant to ride.
I guess the ground clearance of 195 mm is more than sufficient for indian road conditions and even for Ladakh terrains. In that case I don't think you need to go with the Himalayan when your requirements are getting fulfilled with the 400X. Rest is up to you. But what made you to book Himalayan as well? May I know the reason. Are you comfortable at 100-120 kmph cruising on 400x and how is the fuel efficiency at that speed and also how much evident are the vibrations at those high speeds? I would be glad if you reply me. Cheers.😃😃
@@suryateja2k11 yes sir it's sufficient ground clearance
Bhai I sold my reborn classic 350 recently....and I am too planning for a Speed or Scrambler....my nearest showroom is also 200kms away from my home 😂. So there are similarities with you! Can you please guide me on the following things -
1. Does scrambler feel like as heavier as the new classic 350 in real life? Does it also feel difficult to push it backwards when it is in parking?
2. My height is 5ft7in. How my height is going to be felt on Scrambler with respect to Classic?
3. How is the mileage with respect to Classic. Actual difference when you ride on 6th gear at 60-70kmph speed.
4. Difference on comfort. Because I hate stiff suspension set up as RE bikes are offering now.
Please put some valuable insights. Thank you in advance!😊 Jai Hind
@@suryateja2k11 100-120 is a bliss compared to my older bike. Can overtake easily. Fuel economy is really bad. It shows 25kmpl but i guess is lesser, why? Because my home is like 240-250 km away from where i am posted currently and i didn’t reached home at 10 ltrs of tank. I required like around 2-3 ltrs extra. And vibrations are there once you reach 150kmph at 6th gear and like 10000rpm. Here the Himalayan gets the lead incase of rpm. My hands were tired after few minutes. So i guess it performs more than enough at 100-120 mark and is also a good cruising speed.
I’ve booked the Himalayan at first. RE is RE for real bike was getting late . It has still not arrived yet. So i took a test drive of the scrambler too , my city got a brand new triumph showroom for the first time, got excited for that too. Triumph has been a childhood dream moreover needed a bike for office ASAP 😅 i sold my classic few months back for the new Himalayan only but fate had other plans. One more thing i noticed regarding this bike, after long rides RE bikes chain gets loose. I need to tighten my 350,s chain constantly after rides. I am not getting that issue here.
I am loving the bike so much no number plate yet . It’s only like 15-20 days completed 2000kms already.
@@Enigmatic123 1.The scrambler feels lighter but that dosent means it is like ktms. Triumph has done a good work regarding quality and placement of components, trust me you don’t want to open the tank its a puzzle inside there. And try pushing youre bike in neutral , not while pulling the clutch in gear it helps me alot trust me. Somehow makes the bike lighter
2. Even i am of the same height almost, 1 inch shorter i can place my toe on both legs. Try balancing one leg it will be much easier , you wont feel the slanting of the bike.
3. If you’re thinking about mileage with this bike, then it wont help you. Classic has better mileage. I get around 23kmpl.😭
4. Comfort is excellent for rider. Pillion seat is good and comfortable as well but scary sudden throttle might scare the pillion. 😆
Interceptor vs scram what will be better my riding mostly includes city rides 70% and long trip 200kms around 30% please let me know I'm confused
Bullu bhai why didn't you think of Innova Hycross?
You told all the Real facts 😊 ....Thanks sir
Ab to tube less rim aa gaya himalyan me ab kaun se bike lu Billu bhaiya i am just sixty years old
Bhai.. Any updates on new cb500x .
Sahi hai bhai... mein bhi tubeless spoke rims ka wait kar rha hu......agar next year nahi aya toh scrambler x
Ohh man..Siddharth Lal at RE must burning with anger right now. Awesome review
Nice and honest review sir.
I was really confused between scram400x and Himalayan.
But your opinion helped me alot, going with scram now.
I'm from Pune do visit it once sir, we'll love to meet you in person and Keep going doing a great job.
Colour?
@@NitinkumarNaik-u9o red
Bingo in having the similar thoughts. I just don't know how much our thinking match tht makes wanting to meet you once 😊. I have subscribed to so many channels but no one connects me as u do. Super video Bulu bhai, i too am inclined towards scrambler just bcz of reliability issue of re, weight of re and size of the bike, I guess I can add mileage also in this list as scrambler being lighter and lesser cc will have better mileage.
Topi Matlab RE 😅😅. Sir Triamph is more Relaible but KTM adventure adjustable suspension was Outstanding Mind-blowing sir.. love from Alipurduar west bengal
Total how many bikes do u currently own??
Now only 6 left rest all sold
0:34 finally someone acknowledges it.
Thanks bhai for this detailed video... Thanks a lot ❤
Scambler ka accessories kitna price hai..15 k ka cover ata hai
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SCRAMBLER 400X VS GRR450 VS CB350RS
use case: 80% touring + 20% city
Height is 168cm and has inseam of 29inchs
coming from activa 5g but had experience of bike riding
needs form bike
1. stress free cruising on 90-100kmph
2. enough power to go anywhere in india
3. good suspension ( as we know indian roads)
4. mileage atleast 25+ ( as a future clg student)
want to keep an single bike in my garage for all use cases ( yess we had and scooty and other vehicles), and will not sell it .
bulu bhai konsi bike self ko maza degi isko determine karna is very tough and it changes from situation to situation , for me it was thunderbird 15 yrs back and now it is hunter , though the price iw bot even close to my mo thly salary but still i took it as it exceeds my expectations in city and dqily rides.and as far as RE brand goes it was always like this only and now accessories costs a lot
You make a lot of sense Mr Bullu, very practical advice👍
Hello, i got your chanel trough JS paji .
Now I'm in big trouble I want to buy a bike but i can justify which is best feet for me. My height is 6 feet ,in my choice KTM 390 X, Royal Enfield 452, triumph scrambler 400X, Harley Davidson 440x, BMW gs310 .. the main purpose of the purchasing is touring and most of the touring destination is hill station, so as you're a experienced rider please advise me which one should i peak.
Scrambler Rocks Bulu vai its ammazing ...afterall TRIUMP💯💯💯💯💯