Why Using a Sidefolding AR-15 is Such a Bad Idea
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A decade of use, and thousands of rounds down… law tactical is still in perfect shape, and has worked flawlessly on DD mk18
Dude! I don't get how one user can have such a great experience with one and then someone else has a terrible experience with another.
@@Tier1Citizen Right, which then with that same logic we could apply to any single firearm part so why does this type of part get tossed? I think the better thing to do is by high quality and inspect your parts initially and then often after they are installed. Its just part of the game with mechanical things. Most end users dont understand the platform the way that they should anyways, so as a whole everyone should just simply be better at being a owner and user of these tools instead of just saying "Dont use any type of folding unit on a DIed buffered AR.
The LT folder has been proven to last. Works great on my 8” 300blk. Suppressed and non suppressed. I love it.
Since finding your channel, I've learned alot more than from any other guntuber I've watched to this point. Thank you for your insights
Welcome aboard!
I'm not a comando of any sort. I will just say that I have used 1 law tactical folder for multiple thousands of rounds without issue and 300 BLK is available at walmart.
I think it depends on your purpose. A blank statement across all platforms I don't think saying ",no folders" is fair. Folders do allow a more compact rifle with a longer barrel. The wear compared to convience might be worth it for some purposes.
Loved everything about the video except your comments on 300 Blackout not being common. US Spec Ops Command does use 300 Blackout across different branches. That's actually why it is gaining popularity very fast in the shooting community. It hits hard, it's compact and can be silenced easily in the M4 platform. I agree that its not as common as 5.56 or 308, but it is a rising star.
The church shooting video was pretty wild. You gotta keep your head on a swivel at all times. I was surprised how fast that started and ended.
Keep up the great work !
I am going to do a follow up video on this. What I was referring to was when supply chains are down 300BLK is more problematic to find that the ubiquitous 5.56mm.
If I were to go the 30 caliber route I would get a small AK folder in 7.62x39.
Disagree. Folders have their uses and I love it.
Fair enough.
I have no issues finding 300 blackout
And the military does use 300blk. Sparingly and in special situations, but sig rattler has effectively replaced SMGs.
Than you know he's full of it, and if you have an 556 should you run out of 300blk more the better
Working at Academy years ago 300 blackout was hardly shipped in, but you can make it from 5.56
US Citizen Primary should be a 9mm
US Citizen Secondary should be a 5.56 OR 7.62
IF you want a Side Folder ... get an AK
if you cannot walk into a BANK with your primary and not get investigated/shot it is NOT YOUR PRIMARY
if you cannot walk into a Gas Station with your primary and not get investigated/shot it is not your Primary
is a "loaded" and "disabled" firearm really a "loaded firearm"?
Well said
I like what you said minuet the barrel length. Glad you realize bag guns suck as a concept, so it makes my points a bit easier to get across.
If I need a sub 11.5” AR it’s gunna be 300 blackout. 5.56 has a hard drop off curve after 10” when it comes to bullets expansion/fragmentation reliability. Even TAP 75gr SBR is now meh out to 100 yards with a 7.5” very unlikely to get expansion and thus have the round torpedo through the person. 300 blackout TAP 110gr is effective out of 5”(if it’s 1:5 twist) to 150 yard and doesn’t fail to expand. Even with the best SBR bullet the 77gr TMK 5.56 isn’t reliable as a round because now your ammo is just a single load and bullet while being $1.95/per with non bulk pricing.
Bag guns suck, so I have a truck guns in a locked seat locker. It’s a 14” pinned 5.56 gun, a 18” AR10 6.5 creed or 10.5 300 blackout. Where I’m going is what decides what I’m taking. I rarely take the 10.5 because my line of sight is uncomfortably too far for its effectiveness. All 3 guns are hearing safe with their suppressors. The 5.56 has a full size 5.56 polonium keymo, the AR10 has a hydrogen L stub thread, and the 300 blackout has the polonium 30 stub thread.
I carry a truck gun for if I’m in a area where society has collapsed, not to respond to shootings.
Yeah but if I want to go to the range and I don't want to bring a big range back, I can have a backpack with my pistol. Rifle and ammo. You can bring your long bag.
@@nonope7000 so because you don’t want to have a long bag you’re now adding an Additional pound to the gun, that isn’t sealed, adds unnecessary friction, has a different thermal expansion rate compared to the two aluminum parts it’s attached to, and loss of reliability to the cycling of the action. Sound like a dumb justification man.
@@ShepherdOfTheSilkies yeah, I don't want to bring a long ass bag with me when I can just have a small backpack with me. How is it that hard to understand. Small versus big, small wins in terms of convenience for the range. Also, this is convenient for carrying more firearms if needed for unfortunate scenarios where you don't want to be seen as a threat......like apocalyptic scenarios.
@@nonope7000 you just said it’s for going to the range, so bag size is completely irrelevant…
Carrying a backpack in an angry crowd that you don’t fit in with perfectly will get your ass robbed at gunpoint.
@ShepherdOfTheSilkies so if I have a backpack, whether or not it has a gun in it, I'm just being robbed? I'm not understanding. Not everything is a tactical situation, there is such things as being covert and you simply cannot do so while carrying a huge rifle in the open..... or having a big ass range back with molle and all sorts of other stuff. So, both range day and other days make sense when it comes to being able to fold your rifle.
AR-180s and all the other rifles that use that operating system are fantastic for these purposes for those that really do not want to deal with separating the receiver sets. I disagree about .300blk, it has a specific use case and purpose, but not everyone understands that.
I stay away from folders just for weight reasons. They are almost a pound.
TRUTH!!!!!!
Like a law folder? That pound in the rear is great to offset the weight of lights, lasers and suppressors
BINGO. LIGHT POWER!
I was curious when I saw the title and despite disagreeing with about 80% of it "probably due to a lack of context in areas" I watched the whole damn thing. It was good, I'll check out some others.
Well dang! That's not an all-together sucky appraisal of the video. I'll take it!
I have a agf side folding a are lower, 2000 rounds so far not an issue. If I had to run to my truck and get it I would much rather slap the side and charge it than try to assemble an upper and lower.
I have no issues finding 300 and it cost about the same as the Winchester deer season 223 that I keep in my other.
Don't get me wrong if things where going haywire id reach for my five 5 6 but as far as regular society continues I think it fits the bill.
Ammo is just another currency...back in the Wild West, a "shot" of Whiskey cost one Round of ammo.
Love it!
A short stroke side folder isn’t bad. The new lite version of the Sig MCX seems viable.
I steer far clear from all things Sig Sauer. They are a crap company that always use the buying public for their beta testers. We are nothing but lab rats to them.
I to wont touch sig with a ten foot pole after being screwed twice by their customer service.
"No we cant fix your gun but we can give you a 100$ voucher for your next sig product!"
What a joke.
@@Tier1CitizenI think that P226 is a very good pistol, correct?
I'd recommend the BRN-18 if you want an affordable side folder
@@J.Young808 after 20 years of us testing it for them it should be
Have you considered a 5 1/2 inch rattler in 556? For those who prefer 300 blackout, they could carry a Rattler in that configuration and keep the other barrel with them if they were to run out of ammo and be able to switch over to 556 fairly quickly. At that point three zeroing might be a concern but it depends on the accuracy and distance standard that you would hold your kit to under those circumstances. The majority of emergencies that would require a rifle I feel would be very short-term and duration. For the extended scenario where are you are trying to beg borrow or barter for ammo you would be able to then swap your barrel. Plus it is shorter overall and folds as it is designed to do so.
I steer far clear from all things Sig Sauer. They are a crap company that always use the buying public for their beta testers. We are nothing but lab rats to them.
Anything based on the mcx has 3 to 4 times the amount of recoil as a standard AR in that length. They are garbage, and the only reason it ever became anything was literally call of duty
@GUARDIAN.13 Bull. I have a Rattler in .300 BLK and it's as smooth as butter. Recoil is a slight push with 120-grain supers and barely noticeable. I was at an expo over the past weekend and got to shoot a Rattler suppressed with subsonic rounds. Recoil is again barely noticeable. This Rattler at the expo also has thousands of rounds through it and ran FLAWLESSLY.
Was dinging steel with my Rattler standing freehand from 100-yards. Super accurate for a 5.5" barrel and excels in the ROLE IT WAS DESIGNED FOR.
The Rattler is an awesome little PDW in .300 BLK. Not sure I'd go THAT short with 5.56, though unless there was no other option.
@@Knight_of_the_Old_Code your absolutely right, have a great day
My LT folder is great. Love it.
The only reason why I have a shorty AR with a LAW folder is for storage. I take on vacation and other place in a backpack. It's a SHTF gun to get home. It is only meant for that purpose. I don't grab it for training or drills because I know, screws and hinges will wear out. Things wear out. It is a failure point. If I am at home, and the world is ending, I have a more solid build rifle.
That being said. I may change my shorty AR to a regular buffer tube and just have it broken down in 2 pieces inside the case because you're right. It's some assembly required and I need to move on from the cool guy unfold your gun stage of my life
I love those folders but...
For a get home weapon you are better off with a Glock PDW in almost any circumstance other than red dawn. The thing you are using and it's support equipment needs to be decently concealed and lightweight or it causes more problems than it fixes. If you're on vacation and a hurricane or whatever hits you can't exactly just fold out a 10.5 ar and start rocking a plate carrier to travel outside the zone.
The size of my 7.5 AR is fantastic for travel. But the noise, flash, and effectiveness of the round ain’t too good.
I'm not a EP agent or commando, SOF guy so I'm fine with a 14.5-16" type rifle. I don't think SBR type weapons are not a top pick for private citizens, armed home owners.
7” 5.56 seems like a self induced flash bang if you don’t have ear pro on in a tight space.
It is vicious.
Flash can
Or just have a regular ar and have 2 uppers 300blk and 556!
Yep that's the option that works.
As a former 07 manufacturer who focused on the M4 platform, I am curious by the statement regarding "rust" in the folding unit. Do you mean carbon build up??? I spent a lot of time to understand the finer intricacies of the M4 platform, so beyond a laymen understanding can you expand on that statement. The only steel component is the carrier so i dont understand where "rust" is coming from. Ive worked with the two most popular side folding units and neither use large steel parts. Why doesnt lube not prevent said rust? Or are you saying that because most people will neglect to maintain their weapon, that it will induce failure?? Seems kind of obvious to point out, so again could you expand on this point?
When I inspected my friend's he had rust deposit/smears along the inside of the channel where the hinge is.
Really hope you’re able to sell that muzzle device again soon, I’ve been searching for anything remotely similar and unfortunately I can’t find anything I like for a reasonable price.
This is not an exact copy of mine but it is really close. kakindustry.com/micro-fluted-slimline-flash-can
@@Tier1Citizen you’re the man, definitely will have to suffice in the mean time but anxiously waiting on your product to drop if that’s something you plan on doing in the future.
What do you think about AR Variants such as BRN-180 uppers w/ piston systems not requiring the buffer tube to operate? They can use a brace/stock that becomes integral to the system for aiming, not for operation. Love the videos & perspective! Keep up the great work & congrats on the family & 4Runner!!
Don't need a piston variant. There are BCGs that contain the entire buffer/spring system in themselves. No buffer tube required.
@@BooDamnHoo Really? Who makes these & can you speak to their reliability for cost? I agree w/ Abner that an un-Molested AR-15 would be best for SHTF/Life saving system is my personal best option, but I do like the updated Stoner design of the AR-18 (BRN 180) for ease of transport/compactness for storage. Looking forward to your thoughts/recommendations!!!
@@johnf128416 Evolution Weapon Systems makes them, as well as a lower buffer plug with picatinny so you can attach the folding stock of your choice (or go short barrel without a stock for a pistol that the ATF can't possibly call an SBR (and stick a stock on it whenever convenient).
The .300aacblackout was mainly set up for surpressed rifles, not wide use as a defense round. Id say in 2023, the .300blk is still a good idea but Id agree you get a more practical round from a 5.56x45mm.
Honestly seeing a guy whos a little bit older like you utilizing the bandolier rig is awesome. I've heard vets around their 40s shid on it and call it some airsoft crap when it's milspec rated.
I love this thing.
@@Tier1Citizen honestly ever since I found them they've been great especially for my mil spec cartridge pouches for my lever tacs.
@@Tier1Citizen Yours looks like the IC13 one Raptortactical also makes one that's a little more skeletonized and lighter
I'm not a huge sidefolder fan..I never liked the law-tactical folder setup..to much extra Mechanical parts, that can eventually break.... But that doesn't mean all sight folders are made the same..My spear LT and ak's and other PDW's don't have charging handle issues. Piston operated systems don't require buffer tubes. I due agree an sbr broken down in a short bag isn't ideal..really just for travel but not effective for quick response.. If you want a compressed weapon in a small bag, you should use a PDW or Rattler so there isn't a Lego requirement to operate under stress.
I picked up a law tactical folder, it served its purpose but I moved away from it as my travel setup…
Love the storage case.
Also if we could get the NFA to get cut down (no BSR, BSS, suppressors), then we could have better options for home defense.
In your opinion, who makes the best gassed 7.5" barrel these days?
I would have to say Sons of Liberty Gunworks. However, their barrels are made for them by Ballistic Advantage, which are what I built my 13.7" AR-15's with. They are true milspec and eject cleanly to the 3 - 4 o'clock position, even when shooting Milspec M193.
@@Tier1Citizen Awesome! Was looking at the BA barrels and others stated that they were gassed very well for being 7.5". Really appreciate all your work and will be ordering some slings from you as well!!
Thank you again for a wonderful video!
You seemed to really like that 11.5 Foxtrot Mike you had on your channel some months ago, what happened?
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That's not what I'm referring to in this video. That weapon was designed as a side folder. I'm referring to retrofitting a weapon with a side folder.
Thank you for asking for the clarification point. Good eye.
@@Tier1Citizenok, thankyou.
It all depends on your usa case. Off-body access to any weapon is pointless if you have to assemble the weapon before use. Carry a pistol and a rifle because a pistol is for immediate access and for fighting your way to your rifle. Bufferless rifles like the BRN180S , the CMMG Dissident or the PSA Jakl make much better 'bag guns' than Direct Impingement ARs. That said, I have 2 carbines with LAW Folders that I've had zero problems with.
Off topic a little bit, I have one Sig P320 that I hardly ever shoot. I did the voluntary recall on it. Still trying to figure out what to do with it. if anything.
I'll buy it from you
Always an unexpected handy tip in there somewhere - makeshift thumb front site. Need to try it out!
Works well.
so a handgun or a pdw style weapon are the what should be the norm unless there is time to have the upper and lower coupled.
I just never understood it, when you keep trying to make an AR more compact its just adding weight and more parts to break. There are plenty of guns that were designed to be compact such as glocks with stocks etc that imo i just feel id be better of with my glock and the recover brace then making my ar buffer fold and my barrel detaching etc.
Boom!
Glock with a chassis is still a pistol round, which sucks. 11.5” AR with folder, not so sucky. That “added weight” makes the gun feel more balanced since all the weight of an AR is typically at the front and now you’ve added some to the rear. Also, it’s not a crazy piece of technology that will just break out of nowhere lol
@@andrewcopeland1517 ok so actually hear me out right. WW3 probably isn't going to happen statistically but what will is a natural disaster. Let's say you are vacationing in an area and it is flooding, and your trying to get to a different area hoofing it and you want protection while doing so. It's going to go over a lot better with a weapon that you can 100 percent hide on your body and deploy fast, all you are going to have done with an AR hanging off you is get shot by a humanitarian aid officer or soldier. People are spoon fed this sexy "a boy and his dog" and fallout scenario by these idiots telling you that "you need an AR" "I don't leave my house without 12 magazines" etc and you know what? When they were in service it worked for them and that's great but we aren't and even if shit goes south we are still civilians and have to remain covert because we don't have the law backing us up like in a warzone in Afghanistan where we can carry whatever we want and waist the enemy. We have to still worry about police, military etc trying to disarm us and all the idiots running around with huge ass guns because they listen to individuals from war zones are going to get it first. Soldiers need to stop giving bad advice to civilians because we don't have an army backing our actions up and we need to stop listening. Those anecdotes they give us are great for is things go south and your protecting your home in a total societal collapse but not 99 percent of disasters that will actually happen.
@@andrewcopeland1517my 300 blackout pistol with folder laughs at the thought of a wonky Glock with stock😂. I’m amazed at some of the statements people make.
@@luckymanham302Same. I'll take my 5.5" Sig Rattler in .300 BLK over a 9mm (if given the choice) any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I absolutely LOVE this channel. Man. You are a GODSEND!!!
Glad to hear it!
8.5 Suppressed Law Tactical Folder 300 Black out... Vehicle gun .. when you have to put RDS through Glass and Still be Effective
A few questions: 1. What bag is that? I would like to purchase it because it’s discreet 2. What gloves are you using? Looking for gloves to help mitigate heat from the rail as I shoot.
You've come to the right place. I've got videos for everything.
Here is the bag: ua-cam.com/users/video1K-YkwNAAKE
Here are the gloves: ua-cam.com/users/videotoR-dSQa1VE/
They have a arm sleeve you can buy to put on the rail to mitigate heat.
@@tacticalnewbe5745 I know Hotpocket rail sleeves. Those aren’t as effect as they say.
@@Tier1Citizen Thank you!
@@Ronin_Noir good to know, i kinda thought the same, but never used one, appreciate it.
That thumb method is next level.
Yup!
😂😂 Hot pocket central!?! I needed that laugh!! Thanks Abner!
I love it!
First time watching the video and I had to pause at 1:29 to make my comment. I have both 5.56 and .300 Blackout. 5.56 because it is plentiful. .300 Blackout for hunting and I reload cartridges. 5.56 brass can work out in a pinch if cut and resized to .300 Blackout dimensions.
When I talk about ammo availability I'm referring to when things get dicey with supply chains.
You cannot use that video from the church. Jack, used a pistol. I agree with some of your stuff and I agree it all happens faster than a hen can lay an egg. However, every situation is different and in a perfect world I’d have a Abrahams. Truth is, practice, practice, practice. Shorty’s are perfect in the right situation.
Yes, I did look at one of those ar folding stock adapters. The price was so ridiculous I never bought one. I'm glad i never did.
They’re pretty rad
Yeah gunna have to disagree. You can also upgrade the extension to an aluminum piece that is lighter and won’t ever rust or corrode.
Good points.
Weapon light? Brand & model #? Also interested in the bandolier.
inforce is the weapon light, i think its the WML or just AR rifle light, and the bandoleer is called the INVRT by IC13
He has a video recently on the bandolier he is trying to workout a deal to get it on his site like the HST chest rig. He has several videos on his rifle setup
What greenstreet said. Also, I'm going to start carrying the bandoleer soon.
Thanks dude.
That happened so fast. I noticed the one man struggled to get his weapon out of the holster. Our church security team has AR-15 rifles in the office in a safe but they carry glock 17's on their persons. Sadly however our security team is predominantly older (late 60's to early 70's) and they aren't very quick. I thought about trying to get on their team but I don't go all that often.
That man was fumbling to get his gun out and paid for it with a shot through his heart that tore out part of his spinal cord. Look at the smear on the wall, that was blood, guts, and bone. His lack of desire to put the work in on the range cost him his life.
@@Tier1Citizen yeah that's horrible. These people want to be security but they don't want to train. It looks like the church would be willing to pay for training for their team.
Security teams should be trained and paid. Anything less and you get volunteers who realize how not cool it is to HAVE to be at church every weekend, giving up their precious time.
Have you tried the One-Shot GS2 for improved pistol accuracy and conceilability?
I have not.
What is your opinion in the Cry Havoc QRB system?? Would it be a alternative to the folding stock ???
Spot on ,Brother 😉👊👍🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Not every situation will play out the same, look into Sutherland Springs, guy had time to grab an AR, drive to the location of the murderer, and load mags on the way. Everything is a consideration.
God bless Jack, super good dude, met him once at a church event
New to the channel, thanks for the video and advice. Hot Pockets!
Thanks for watching! Hot pockets!
What's with the upside down mags? Just curious is there enough retention to keep them from just bouncing loose and falling out?
yes
Yes it is the INVRT bandoleer from IC13.
I stopped using the shorties because of the brace issue. At that time, I switched over to the Tavor X95 for my go to package. Do you know of any good bags that work for that gun?
A trash bag
I would look at the discreet cary bags from Blackhawk: ua-cam.com/users/video1K-YkwNAAKE/
Somebody is being mean :)
Sig Spear = M14 2.0 smh. It's almost as if every terrible idea has a resergence every ~20 years lol. **Well aware the M-14 is ~3 times this old.***
The only absolute in life is there are no absolutes. No matter how much I have tried over the years, there is no one gun or one caliber that does it all. They all have advantages and drawbacks. It all comes down to what you’re willing to give up for something else. Or just save up and put together systems that are mission specific and train, train, train.
What bandolier is that? It looks like the INVRT but also looks different?
Yes, it's the INVRT. I love this thing. It has had a redesign and it's great, I'm going to start carrying it on my website.
I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts on the BRN 180 in a 7.5" configuration, with a folder? I appreciate the less is more. The idea of a "quick deploy" bag gun is not a realistic, maybe nice if you find yourself in a terrorist situation, but not a active shooter.
I have no experience with that weapon set up.
@@Tier1Citizen Thank you for the quick response.
Yup
Is it me, or does it sound like rattlesnakes rattling occasionally, in the background ?..😮
Perhaps, we do have venomous snakes in this area of TN.
100%. Well Said.
It kind of sucks how much the 5.56 cartridge depends on velocity as far as terminal ballistics are concerned. That's really where 300 shines. You can send that sucker through a tiny barrel and still get wonderful terminal results while 5.56 turns into 22lr on steroids with anything shorter than 12". Of course shot placement and training will always be king and you can definitely pair good, albeit exspensive ammunition with the shorter 5.56 rifles.
Even with all that there's still this tiny hamster wheel going round and round in my head trying to convince myself anything shorter than 16" in 5.56 is a complete waste but I still 100% agree with what you said in the start of the video. 5.56 is EVERYWHERE and same goes for 22lr & 9mm. I would hate to be on the last mag of 300blk or even 308 for that matter when something drastic has happened to supply or civil unrest. I'm very curious where this whole pistol brace ruling will be headed as well. I've wanted a "pistol" size rifle for awhile now.... The last thing I want to do is give 200 bucks to the government and be put on the "hot" list just to legally own such a thing...
The problem with barrels shorter than 14 inches is 5.56 isn't actually the performance but the people that don't use it insisting that it is horrible. When looking at 5.56 in shorter barrels you can't compare it to itself in longer barrels you have to compare it to other things you would be using. Is 5.56 out of a 7.5 as good as it out of a 20"; well no it's horrible but it's still way better than 45s 9mms 40s etc etc at the same length. Long story short if you shoot someone inside of 200 yards with a 5.56 from a 7.5 barrel they are stopping what they are doing period.
I really dig the MK18 platform. Pretty much my "do-it-all" platform.
Folder only reason I can backpack with suppressor attached. Over 300 rounds. Edc approved for me.
i feel this theory of lack of ammo in 300 whisper dosent apply to handloaders... great video Abner
Probably not. You guys are good at what you do.
Thank you so much for this video. Recently I've been agonizing over whether or not to add a side folder to my BCM. This video brought me back to reality. I'm going to leave it alone. Thx again.
Glad it was helpful.
Always remember the #1 rule of engineering, the more parts or things you add, the more parts and things that might malfunction
That is so true.
Has anyone had trouble with their magpul rubber end on their collapsible buttstock sticking to clothing making sidearm traditions different in heavy clothes? My two point sling is maxed out.
They do that when they get exposed to gun cleaning oils and then subsequent time or heat.
at yet every police officer responding to every active shooter parks, gets his patrol rifle out of a case in his trunk, and goes to business.
Your point is what? Please respond because I am interested in hearing it. No I'm not being an ass when I say that.
I will respond to the words you have said thus far. Yes, cops park their car and get out their rifle. Why? Because they are responding to a known threat. A threat that has already exposed itself and its intent as being evil. That has zero relevance to being the armed citizen who is peacefully enjoying a meal with friends and family and a killer enters the restaurant and opens fire. That Tier 1 Citizen has gone from level one to level 10 in one second. Their fight begins and ends with what they have on their person. The don't have the luxury of going out to their vehicle to get their gun.
@@Tier1Citizen there are times where retrieving a long gun is not practical and times when it would be very practical. A teacher hearing gu fire in the next classroom may deploy a folded rifle out of a go bag far more effectively than a hip holstered firearm the latter not being practical for a teacher. I personally think 25 percent of those (willing and trained) teachers having a law folder 10.5 ar in a secured bag in their locked desk desk drawer could be quite effective at stopping school shootings as an example.
I doubt that will ever come to fruition. I have been in this fight since Columbine and I've yet to see any program truly go mainstream to allow teachers to have weapons at the ready. These feel good measures like allowing firearms to be in your vehicle and other measures do nothing to deal with an active killer scenario. For those times it has to be here and now, readily available with only one step to get to it. Anything more than that and it is a pipe dream.
now the folder portion of your comment is kinda true, I have three law folders and love them, but to be honest they are kinda niche and not really that necessary for almost all situations. I just like them. they add complexity and weight, make it harder to break down, and make buffer selection a bit more finnicky @@Tier1Citizen
Is that an invrt bandolier?!?!
Thank you very. Just want you to know you have confirmed a suspicion I had. You have changed my outlook. Again, thank you. God bless.
You are so welcome
300 blackout is definitely becoming more mainstream. It's a great caliber that is extremely versatile, and it hits harder.
Has its uses, but its far more limited than most think. It gets pretty thick folded too! I just go with a AK for a folder myself.
Yes they do get really thick when folded over.
That's what I was thinking if I were to go the 30 caliber route.
Ugh,…I will keep my equipment together and ready to go ! That includes my suppressor attached and a full mag ! I use my 300 blackout as a truck gun and in the cases I’ve come across, there isn’t and will be no time to open a bag, assemble your pistol/ rifle , pop in a mag, chamber a round and turn on the optics. I’d rather reach over and locked and loaded in seconds.
What bandolier setup is that?
It is the IC13 INVRT Bandoleer. I am going to seat carrying them soon.
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying for years that you want 5.56 because it’s the most common.
You used to like that side charging handle didn’t you?
It's decent as long as it's nonreciprocating.
I need to move me to Tennessee so I can get me a 7.5”
Come on!
Load firearm in your voice haha. I don’t get the loaded firearm nazi. Especially when the handler is talking over a firearm. It’s different if someone is around you & even if finger is on the trigger. I’d be willing to bet there’s more accidents w/ppl use to handling unloaded vs always loaded. If u always have weapons loaded it reminds you every time you pick up your weapon or someone else to check & or use hood safety measures. My edc always loaded & not just msg but chambered. My house defense gun chambered & loaded. My truck gun I just keep a mag in. Either way treat every gun as loaded point blank.
Love your channel name..
So I recently purchased a “cheek riser” so that I can get a proper “cheek weld” with an optic riser and the riser, by design, prevents you from charging the gun unless the stock is fully extended.
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That $70 “cheek riser” is now a $70 regret that sits in my “junk drawer.”
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Test your gear, even after you have bought into the marketing ploys.
It's not a ploy, its for using that stock on other platforms that don't have a traditional AR type charging handle.
But it wouldn't hurt to have a 300 blk upper, just in case
Good points. I'm glad you've had good luck with it. Not everyone I've met, has.
@Tier1Citizen I love the AR platform, I've been playing around with a 7.62x39 upper also.
Knowledge, books , scholar , 🙏
Rip ever getting to go to a vickers class :(
Hey man that pice of gear wraped around your body is bad asss,,!!!!! 🇺🇸😎
It is the IC13 INVRT Bandoleer: ua-cam.com/users/videoDRYoOwJ030k/
💯 facts!
Thanks for the video, remember full auto is not for CQB 😊
Doc/out
Yep, so true.
I agree I used a law tac folder. Didn't like the added weight and is overrated
Yes they are.
I’d take it a step further and say, until NATO accepts a new cartridge, the 5.56 isn’t going away.
Amen!
Awesome video. Just wondering, are you going to consent on Larry vickers?
Nope! Not my business. I have been around long enough to know to keep my mouth shut about things that I don't have all the facts about.
You have no clue what you’re talking about. The new round is a great round with much better knockdown power than 5.56. The rifle weighs a pound and a half more. Big deal, we are currently using m4s that are 25+ years old. It’s been long overdue for a new rifle, machine gun and marksmen rifle. Either way it doesn’t matter we will train on that new system and the weight won’t matter.
I can assure you that I know exactly what I'm talking about. I was the guy testing 7.5" penetration and wound damage long before shorties were even a thing. I've been doing this for over 20 years. I am the originator of the Spike's Tactical Compressor and that weapon originally had a barrel in the 7.5" - 8.3" range for a reason...
@@Tier1Citizen how does that have anything to do with you saying 6.8 and the new rifle is bad? What does that have anything to do with what I said? I responded to your comments about the new military round and and the new rifle. I gave you my reasons as to why the new round is superior and the new rifles are better than what we are currently using. Your comment makes no sense. This just proves what I said.
Well then, since you are correct, start your own channel and share your knowledge.
The keyboard commandos in the comment section are ready for their keltec sub2000 video now........... you already have the mags and ammo for it 😃
Bruh!
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