This could very well be used as a test to enter the ranks of the Administratum. If you don't kill yourself, you're in. It's fine if you stab an eye out tough, they have cybernetics.
The administratum is perfect xD. Wanna get some supplies in Only War? let me order 2 plasma grenades. Here, have 4 Plasma guns and a chemeoline cloak. Need more ammo? Sorry, you have ordered too many supplies.
@@sebastienl5169 and we in stellaris at least get the advantage of the pause button and near perfect information. The imperium needs to use data slates that someone has to physically carry to their superior for a stamp and a purity seal before they can fill it out further.
@@sebastienl5169I'm playing Vanilla on console and just spent the last 3 hours micromanaging my way through an in game decade. Long live the Commonwealth.
It's a cool mod, and I respect the effort that went into it... but the only way I can see myself ever really using this is simply as a means to test the strength of my computer's machine spirit.
To be Fair, playing as a minor faction, like some random Necron dynasty, or the Tau or something else and trying to thrive despite the constant onslaught might be more fun. mostly so because you leave Imperial administratorial madness to the AI.
Ah yes Stellaris: the game where you begin like the Tau, full of hope for peace and serenity, and end up like the Imperium, full of hatred and retribution against the xenos...
Until you eventually get bored of galactic dominion and either destroy your empire for the lulz like Eldar or become extremely petty and memable like Necrons.
@@mattmark94 some xenos majority of the downfall of mankind was mankind turning on itself its just the daemon outbreaks and new xeno raids made this even more common.
40K is cursed in Stellaris because on the surface one would believe it the perfect marriage between form and function. Obviously, it was a shotgun wedding.
I feel like this Mod is the perfect punchline to the old 'be careful what you wish for' I think I'm gonna take 'personally micromanage the Imperium of Man' off my bucket list
Don't personally manage it, just assign 1,000 sector governors to ai manage it for you, and just hope they do a good job, cause administrative duties are a colossal nightmare. Other than that maybe start making some shipyards, as you're going to need a lot of ships to stabilize your borders.
I honestly think I could do it in 50 years. You just need to build like 10 alloy ecumenopolis and 5 tech ringworlds, plus all the megastructures and set everything else to mining automation Warhammer 40k? More like 40k alloys a month lmao
@@imperialguardsman135 good work Guardsmen, I am ordering you to help Gulliman so he stops screaming every night. Like seriously, he cries himself to sleep in the imperial palace all the time, it’s pretty sad man. Oh well, at least he knows my pain.
You know, if weren't for the wars happening, you could spins those hundred or so planets into Vassals, keeping only the 20 or so in you main sector, which would actually be manageable! If you could form a Federation to keep them all under your thumb, you could have a great time dealing with all the craziness!
Seeing this makes me wonder how a “craft world” origin would feel in vanilla. Start with one or two, limited colonization and population cap, but massive tech boons and head start. Highly mobile with fluid borders based on craftworld location. Might be an amazing addition with more refinement.
Maybe any future total conversions should take place in a custom sector. There's simply too much going on at any one time for any one person to handle. That being said, this is relatively accurate for what the Imperium has to deal with.
What about splitting the sectors between players or AI so they don't get overwhelmed with too much at once? Or picking a different timeline such as the birth of Slaanesh where terra began its crusade so that way you can build up your empire and thus have a gradual control over it much like normal stellaris gameplay.
the difference is that the imperium has like a million of adminstrators and admirals and other clercs to manage it all and not just 1 single person.... and its still slow even then to react to threads long term....
Now we know what Guilliman walked into upon his resurrection and return to Terra. Utter chaos and the Imperial administrative bureaucracy was running like this game on Aspec's computer. Thanks for the showcase Aspec.
The Imperium would actually make a ton of sense as a Hegemon origin, with a) the Imperium itself representing the Custodes, the High Lords, and the core sectors, b) the Mechanicum covering Tech-Priests, Titanicus, and Forge Worlders, and c) the Loyalists representing the Cadians, Death Worlders, Rogue Traders, and Astartes.
...Why? Why so many worlds. I *might* understand the desire to have everything match up but... COME! ON! That's too many! I can already smell the burning my pc would do if I even *considered* playing this mod! How many pops... How many districts... Could sector AI even be able to handle this? Those systems all packed together... This is a logistical *nightmare*... How long do ships take to get from one place to another... **Brain.exe has stopped functioning**
I would convert all Sectors into Vassals and bunch them up into my Federation so that AI could keep things running while Holy Terra directs the Crusades!
"There's just so many wars going on, all the time." 14:56 I mean you are playing a mod for a setting whose tagline is "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war", remember? 😅
@@cosmictreason2242 Pretty much, unless you use a processor with more threads per core. It was a choice they made really early on and apparently can't just patch. I've honestly never played a late game yet.
@@cosmictreason2242 bit late but apparently it's also because the game is horribly inefficient about the way it does the calculations, for example instead of one simple equation per planet it's multiple equations for every individual pop in the galaxy. There's also a lot of calculations that run with unnecesary frequency (for example the calculation to determine how much resources a pop produces is run every single in-game day despite the fact that your resource income itself only updates once a month)
I hate to be the one saying "Um Actually!" but, um.. actually... The Imperium still knows how to build Battleships and Titans, but only on certain worlds. On some Forge worlds they can pump them out as easily as we see in Stellaris, while on others the knowledge to produce them has been lost and they may not even be able to fully operate or repair the ones they have. There's also a major issue with resource management, even if you have a planet that knows how to build Titans there's no guarantee they'll always have the resources to produce one.
Often times they don't really understand how it is really created, operated or maintained properly etc. They still can create some of the stuff but don't really understand how it is made if you would ask them to re-create the process of building the stuff somewhere else, they wouldn't be able to. So the moment some forge or a whole forge world is lost, some technology and other stuff are lost forever. It's like they can practically change a tire from a car but don't really understand any theory behind the whole process. The moment they lose the means/tools/forges/whatever of changing a tire, it's lost completely.
This is one of the things I dislike about Stellaris, but it crops up in a lot of other strategy titles, too. A lack of technological and scientific regression. All of these games treat progress and development as an inevitable upward trajectory, as though things will only get better, and there's no way that the growth of knowledge could stall or decline. I get that Stellaris isn't trying to be a realistic simulation of space politics, and that the linear, inevitable growth of techs and traditions is a gameplay conceit more than an attempt to simulate a historical narrative. But this tendency towards Whig history makes it impossible to properly simulate settings like Warhammer 40K, where the decline and ruin of the existing order are major themes.
@@tbotalpha8133 Stellaris does have the Fallen Empires, as well as two Origins that let you RP your empire as a former interstellar superpower. (Shattered Ring and Remnants) There's also the End of the Cycle which completely annihilates your empire and sets you back to a single planet, and you could probably count the Machine Uprising event chain as well if you decide to resolve it by completely getting rid of all your robots & A.I Not sure how the devs could implement the actual lose of previously researched technologies. Or if that would even be fun to play & manage since, IMO, it'd feel like a waste of all the time I spent on that particular game.
@@tbotalpha8133 there's a game called "galimulator" which has that technological and overall degeneration. you lose a lot of galactic territory during it so it's not really fun mechanic overall
@@TailAbNormal Some kind of education mechanic might work, where you'd need to invest resources into providing education services for your pops. And maintain libraries and the like, to preserve the accumulated knowledge of your people. And then at some point you might have to cut the education budget, causing your pops to lose their education level over time, making them less and less capable of more technical work. Or your libraries might be destroyed, forcing you to rebuild and restock them before your pops forget important technologies. Or you might have to establish an institution like the Adeptus Mechanicus, that preserves old technology and manufacturing through ritualized maintenance. Allowing you to keep tech your pops no longer understand, but at the cost of kneecapping your future research. Admittedly I don't know how it would work in the nitty-gritty, but there's a skeleton of an idea, there. As for whether it would be fun - I think It would require a different mindset from the player. There's another game called Dwarf Fortress, where players are tasked with running a colony of fantasy Dwarves as they set up a new home in untouched wilderness. The game's tagline is "Losing is fun!". Because the game has so many detailed, interlocking systems, that when Dwarven society breaks down, it tends to do so in spectacular ways. Producing enthralling, captivating, and often grimly hilarious stories of the colony's collapse. Essentially, the game puts so much effort into simulating decline and ruin, as well as stability and growth, that playing through the death of a colony can be just as dramatic and interesting as keeping it running properly. So it could be with Stellaris. You'd stop thinking about the game as a contest to be won, and start thinking about it as a Space Stories generator. Where you're just one actor on a galactic stage, rising and falling and changing with the times. Hell, Paradox have already done this with Crusader Kings, where there are enough systems in place that you can happily play through the decline and collapse of your kingdom, and your ultimate usurpation by newer powers.
I know I will never be able to run this mod, but boy, if you want to have just a GLIMPSE of what the administratum going through on a daily basis, this mod is it XDDD
I think the only reason Aspec is able to run this mod its because it requires the 2.2 version, without a LOT of things that the newer versions have. Because otherwise his computer would start sounding like a f*cking Lamborghini before exploding like a system being hit by the Quasi Interstellar Obliterator from Gigastructures
A better wh40k mod would be to take place at the beginning of the great crusade. That would be best since the imperium of man I'd just the solar system at that point beginning to go out and create the space empire. I have yet to see anybody have a mod start there. It's a no brainer
The Imperium didn't appear from nothing, but from the ashes of a federation. The other factions would grab a big chunk of the galaxy and do their own purge if it starts as a normal Stellaris game. If you make the start 30k and the Great Crusade, you won't end up nowhere near 40k at the midgame or whenever, even if you tried.
@@tortex1 not really only SOME minor factions took territory during the strife the big ones were still mostly stagnant from eldar to necron. so it would be you starting off with sol with about 10 minor alien faction with just as small a starting zone. with "fallen empire" type replacements representing the necrons and eldar who could reawaken like they can in stellaris.
@@housewilma4904 I suspect the minor factions would need negative modifiers to keep them from going completely ham. The bigger issue I see is needing to make the galaxy mostly colonised, each planet with their own territory, navy etc. Terra would get a event when encountering a human nation to either annex them peacefully or conquer them (RNG). That would be... chaotic. And fps dropping most likely. All that said, it sounds doable, but it would take a lot of work. And Stellaris doesn't do an important part of 40k, epic ground battles.
There are "more origins" mods that allow you to do some things that could help you simulate 30k. One lets you have two rival human civilizations bordering your starting system, for example.
You're thinking Age of Strife to reconquer Terra, and the Great Crusade to reunite the human planets throughout the galaxy. The Horus Heresy was the interruption of this process.
They should've made you do the Indomitus Crusade or the Great Crusade so that you have to conquer the planets instead of having so many planets from the get go
0:50 As a T'au Player myself I can assure that those damned Xenos do not want to live in peace and prosperity, thats why we show it to them ... by force
Why all this pain Aspec? I just mod the hell out of normal Stellaris for a pretty close 40K experience. There's even a mod which basically recreates the eye of terror. FOR THE EMPEROR!
Infecting Planetary Hive origin (planetary diversity i believe) with Devouring Swarm and Organic Reprocessing civics, Add in Hive-minded, additional traits (im using a +12 one), rapid breeders, very strong, adaptive and quick learners. Theres your tyranids.
ive got like 4 mods that recreat eyes of terror always such a wonder to have age of stife word for word drop on the "mostly materlistic due to me" galaxys head.
Recently I rolled back my Stellaris and tried to come up with a strategy to win in this scenario, but I think it may genuinely not be winnable, or it may just take years to do so. Since the market is broken, I feel like a genuine strategy has to avoid it entirely (otherwise just trade for infinite resources, and win as any faction). So to lay out the situation; there are IIRC 35 or 37 xeno empires, and each has at least 1 shipyard and at least 1 fleet at a strength between 52k and 187k. You get maybe a combined fleet power of 500-750k. The western half of the Imperium at first glance appears the safest, but immediately falls to events where human rebels secede, followed shortly thereafter by chaos invasions across 2 of the major clusters. I'm genuinely not sure if it's better to reconquer those worlds or focus elsewhere. Eventually the events calm down and you get the relative peace of dealing with the AI factions, their fleets, and their invasions unaided by events - except if you invade an ork world they get an event dropping 1-5k troops and up to 100k fleet strength on at least one random world of yours. There are also random dark eldar raid events, chaos events up to invasions of random planets, and random ork invasions; where if they take your world and you retake it later, it spawns a counterattacking ork invasion on a random world. Your mineral income appears fantastic, but isn't enough to rapidly turn around your economy, your food deficit is a major hurdle that quickly cascades into a consumer goods deficit and gridlocks the galactic economy; although you can conquer a few xeno worlds, set them to processing, and kill two birds with one stone. Your alloy production is abysmal given the scale of the problem. After all there there are two major hurdles; the first is that your fleets are too small to defend everywhere and there are no choke points. You can amass your fleets to deal overwhelming damage to 1 enemy faction at a time, but "warp" / hyperlane travel damages and occasionally destroys ships in your fleet, so the very act of massing a battlefleet / crusade causes attrition to your fleets at a scale you can't afford to repair. The second issue is just that it's so much to manage. The Imperium undoubtedly has, if not the resources, then the potential resources to overwhelm every single hostile faction one at a time; grinding down the galaxy one xenocidal campaign after the other until you can defeat what's left in a stand up fight. You start with something like 600 world and 13000 human pops, the issue is molding them into anything useful, and I personally can't imagine micromanaging production on that many worlds for as long as it would take to make it useful. TL;DR Essentially, the Imperium is an ice sheet drifting into warm water, you have a small paddle. Do you fight the current, and try to return to colder seas, or do you spend your time doing anything else?
That really is the absolute state of the galaxy in 40K, isn't it? Especially with the Imperium. It easily has the resources to wipe out any one enemy faction. The problem is that ever focusing so much on one means they would be left wide open for the other 100 or so threats they face daily. Someone once said, "The Imperium of Mankind is like a man hanging from a ledge by his fingertips. The only others there are also hanging from the ledge in other spots. He doesn't have enough strength to pull himself up, just to hold on for a few more seconds. Despite this, he decides to take one hand off to give everyone else the finger."
ya but i would keep curtain key systems like cadia and systems with space marine fortresses so you can still make those units and have most of the systems in a vassel federation that you have control of
The reality is, if GW did a colaboration with Paradox and released this as an "expansion" the WH40k community would lap it up and call it the most realistic Administratum simulator ever and say daft things on Steam in the reviews like: "11/10 - would get wrecked from all directions again and again" "9/10 - No Tyranid hive fleet tried to kick my back doors in so minus 1 point" "12/10 - Orc WAAAAGH tokyo-drifted into my flank and destoyed everything they touched - Perfection!" "100/10 - A backwater world rebelled against the Emperor - Would Exterminatus again" "11/10 - Cadia stands strong!..... edit: Cadia cracked in two but the planet broke before The Guard did. Tears of joy. Would let Cadia fall again!"
Its reasonable to think that we might have somewhere around 40 pre-heresey strengths legions just chilling around the galaxy forgotten because of mismanagement at this scale.
This is probably the best way to try and do a total war of Warhammer 40k. It's too vast and all encompassing. If you just do a world I don't think it will work
How to experience a thousandth of the pain the Man Emperor feels every second: attach a bunch of electrodes to yourself, download and start this mod, get through all the lore stuff then hit play, take your hands off the keyboard, put the game on fastest then turn the electrodes on.
Every play through ends up as me role playing the imperium no matter where I start But yeah… Playing with a bunch of small mods is better than the big ones (so I’ve found)
+ I ended up uniting small mods, making preset AI empires for all major enemies (paradox still spawned their garbage intead half of them, evne if they all were forced to spawn), and then starting as it is Age of Crusades, and I have to reclaim galactic.
It at least has been updated just a month ago more or less so it's far from abandoned, but I also would like to see what they did with the new mechanics.
i like Stellaris alot, i just sumble across this mod i realy hope it got updated further and is now even better. it would be cool we get a realy Warhammer 40K game in space Stellaris style with realy flesht out mechanics and many other features too. I also stil lwhait for a mmorpg in the warhammer 40K universe sadly the one that was in development many years ago never finisht.
Tau: Have you ever tried diplomacy, instead of killing everything? Humanity: Yes, that is precisely why I kill everything. Tau: That's not what I asked? Humanity: Yes it is.
Tbh, when Tyranids ate their first planet of the Imperium, it took them 5 years to notice it in the first place. Administrative brothel is the standart state of things 😂
I was confused with the other mod, but thanks to you, i can finally play a good warhammer mod... all the dlcs purchase during years, all, finally comes together
Everybody says it, nobody knows what it means... memes based on a false premise deserve to be purged. Like calling Tyranids bugs... just wrong on so many levels.
Aspec: WH40k mod is a painless experience
Me: That's was a lie
Well
It wouldnt be Warhammer 40k if the mod didn't make the experience Grimdark as well.
I am Alpharius
@@axcenomega No, I'm Alpharius
@@axcenomega You are Alpharius.
This is a lie.
A perfect simulation of the Administratum, virtually guaranteeing that entire sectors will be mismanaged and forgotten for centuries
This could very well be used as a test to enter the ranks of the Administratum. If you don't kill yourself, you're in. It's fine if you stab an eye out tough, they have cybernetics.
I almost want to install this mod just to give all sectors independence (bar Sol)
My Admunustratum: fuck all of you, sort your own fucking problem!
The administratum is perfect xD. Wanna get some supplies in Only War? let me order 2 plasma grenades. Here, have 4 Plasma guns and a chemeoline cloak. Need more ammo? Sorry, you have ordered too many supplies.
@@svenbrede6151 it's the exact thing you'd expect from an empire that replaced all their computers and calculators with beheaded convicts
@@rigen97 How would you like to live in your favorite science/fantasy universe? Warhammer 40k fans: Nah, fam. I'm good
"I'm not entirely sure how I'm going to manage all that" well what do you know, neither does the Imperium. Immersion guaranteed.
Feels like you could spend 3 days irl to manage one day ig.
@@sebastienl5169 and we in stellaris at least get the advantage of the pause button and near perfect information. The imperium needs to use data slates that someone has to physically carry to their superior for a stamp and a purity seal before they can fill it out further.
@@sebastienl5169I'm playing Vanilla on console and just spent the last 3 hours micromanaging my way through an in game decade.
Long live the Commonwealth.
"The tau are sitting in their corner so bless them for not having to do anything I'll purge them later" is pretty lore accurate lmao
"There's is just so many wars all the time"
Welcome to 40K
"In the grimm darkness of the far future, there is only so many wars all the time"
This mod helps you understand Guilliman’s pain.
You can hear his screams
@@A_Spec speaking of Guilliman, is Ultramar part of this Mod?
@@Jack-0-lantern
No but your mom is
@@Jack-0-lantern it should at least be its own sector if nothing else
Just get a big titty elf gf to soothe some of that pain.
It's a cool mod, and I respect the effort that went into it... but the only way I can see myself ever really using this is simply as a means to test the strength of my computer's machine spirit.
Thall shall not commit machine torture
To be Fair, playing as a minor faction, like some random Necron dynasty, or the Tau or something else and trying to thrive despite the constant onslaught might be more fun.
mostly so because you leave Imperial administratorial madness to the AI.
Apply sacred oils and incense.
Praise to the omnisia
it would be fun to not touch anything and just run the clock to see what it would look like if the imperium collapsed anc couldn't protect itself
Ah yes Stellaris: the game where you begin like the Tau, full of hope for peace and serenity, and end up like the Imperium, full of hatred and retribution against the xenos...
I mean humanity had the same mindset of the Tau before the Long Night. Then the xenos betrayed them.
Until you eventually get bored of galactic dominion and either destroy your empire for the lulz like Eldar or become extremely petty and memable like Necrons.
"We'll serve them up a genocide they never will forget"
Or you start a war against the Necron's Fallen Empire for a good scrap, Like the Orkz.
@@mattmark94 some xenos majority of the downfall of mankind was mankind turning on itself its just the daemon outbreaks and new xeno raids made this even more common.
40K is cursed in Stellaris because on the surface one would believe it the perfect marriage between form and function.
Obviously, it was a shotgun wedding.
"Why aren't there more 40k mods?"
GW's Deranged Lawyering Team: May we have a word?
They have their own personal Asmodai.
"INFRINGEMENT?!"
@@theguylivinginyourwalls our suspicions are confirmed!
@@Macharius89 HE'S USING OUR STUFF!
@@theguylivinginyourwalls WHAT!?
@@Macharius89 HE'S IN CAHOOTS WITH THE FAN-CONTENT MAKERS!
I feel like this Mod is the perfect punchline to the old 'be careful what you wish for'
I think I'm gonna take 'personally micromanage the Imperium of Man' off my bucket list
It's still on my list but the PC doesn't want to...
Don't personally manage it, just assign 1,000 sector governors to ai manage it for you, and just hope they do a good job, cause administrative duties are a colossal nightmare.
Other than that maybe start making some shipyards, as you're going to need a lot of ships to stabilize your borders.
@@andrewgreeb916 yes throw ships at them like the imperial guard they are
I honestly think I could do it in 50 years. You just need to build like 10 alloy ecumenopolis and 5 tech ringworlds, plus all the megastructures and set everything else to mining automation
Warhammer 40k? More like 40k alloys a month lmao
@@imperialguardsman135 good work Guardsmen, I am ordering you to help Gulliman so he stops screaming every night. Like seriously, he cries himself to sleep in the imperial palace all the time, it’s pretty sad man. Oh well, at least he knows my pain.
17:43 Guilliman waking up to the Imperium circa M41
This is why I think we can all appreciate this mod. So we can truly understand the WHY of 40k's insanity. (aside from the whole Chaos thing and all.)
“The list! It doesn’t end… IT DOESNT END!”
-New administratum employee
Just a taste of the true logistical challenge of the Imperium’s Great Crusade and maintaining control of it all
You know, if weren't for the wars happening, you could spins those hundred or so planets into Vassals, keeping only the 20 or so in you main sector, which would actually be manageable!
If you could form a Federation to keep them all under your thumb, you could have a great time dealing with all the craziness!
That's probably a better way for it to be set up to begin with. Pretty ridiculous to expect anyone to deal with 100 planets.
Sounds like a S K I L L I S S U E
The Immortal Emperor, blessed be his name, can do it while resting. Why can’t you?
In all seriousness though you could probably condense a bunch of the worlds into one and have it be ‘counts as’
@@Zergking100 Lack of psychic foresight, I guess.
Why do you think the imperium is broken up in segmentums and sectors.. far too much to manage lol.
Glorious, exactly like the 40k universe is supposed to look like
This seems to be a brilliant simulation of the imperial administratum! We thank you for your sacrifice Aspec.
starts a campaign of warhammer 40k in stellaris
"why are there so many wars going on?"
There is only war?
Seeing this makes me wonder how a “craft world” origin would feel in vanilla. Start with one or two, limited colonization and population cap, but massive tech boons and head start. Highly mobile with fluid borders based on craftworld location. Might be an amazing addition with more refinement.
void born is the closest you could get with that without it being basically impossible to balance
The Vodyani from the game Endless Space 2 function almost like Asuryani/ Craftworld Aeldari/ Eldar. They can get pretty broken.
Maybe any future total conversions should take place in a custom sector. There's simply too much going on at any one time for any one person to handle. That being said, this is relatively accurate for what the Imperium has to deal with.
What about splitting the sectors between players or AI so they don't get overwhelmed with too much at once? Or picking a different timeline such as the birth of Slaanesh where terra began its crusade so that way you can build up your empire and thus have a gradual control over it much like normal stellaris gameplay.
the difference is that the imperium has like a million of adminstrators and admirals and other clercs to manage it all and not just 1 single person.... and its still slow even then to react to threads long term....
this times 10x
The lore actually describes the imperium as incredibly decentralised, it's more of a monarchist federation than a single empire
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Yeah, like the Holy Roman Empire. but in space.
Now we know what Guilliman walked into upon his resurrection and return to Terra. Utter chaos and the Imperial administrative bureaucracy was running like this game on Aspec's computer.
Thanks for the showcase Aspec.
12:31 This isn't a visual glitch, this is uhh... Warp anomalies leaking to our reality!
Who thought making a mod where you have to control hundreds of planets was a good idea?
Somebody with a 64 GHz 512 GB RAM computer
The Imperium would actually make a ton of sense as a Hegemon origin, with a) the Imperium itself representing the Custodes, the High Lords, and the core sectors, b) the Mechanicum covering Tech-Priests, Titanicus, and Forge Worlders, and c) the Loyalists representing the Cadians, Death Worlders, Rogue Traders, and Astartes.
...Why? Why so many worlds. I *might* understand the desire to have everything match up but... COME! ON! That's too many! I can already smell the burning my pc would do if I even *considered* playing this mod!
How many pops... How many districts... Could sector AI even be able to handle this? Those systems all packed together... This is a logistical *nightmare*... How long do ships take to get from one place to another...
**Brain.exe has stopped functioning**
"Could sector AI ever handle this? "
No. Exactly as the emperor intended.
I would convert all Sectors into Vassals and bunch them up into my Federation so that AI could keep things running while Holy Terra directs the Crusades!
40k moment
@@Bluelyre Thank god no AI is forbiden and is heresy
Praise the Omnisiah
You said it, it is a simulation of the Empire's High Council, so you need at least 100 players alternating to properly play this
Lol 100 player hotseat XD
"There's just so many wars going on, all the time."
14:56 I mean you are playing a mod for a setting whose tagline is "In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war", remember? 😅
This WH40K total conversion mod is a piece of art,
as such, it should be placed on a wall and never touched...
Never play it, only look at it!
And then, only from a far distance
Pop. 13716, your computer processor is screaming louder than the thousands of souls sacrifced everyday to the Golden Throne.
I’m so confused why that makes it so hard for the game. I mean it’s one simple equation per planet. Couldn’t require more than a megaflop
@@cosmictreason2242 Engine is locked to one core of processing power from your processor
@@Morning_star7778 whyyyyyyy (so more cores are useless then?)
@@cosmictreason2242 Pretty much, unless you use a processor with more threads per core. It was a choice they made really early on and apparently can't just patch. I've honestly never played a late game yet.
@@cosmictreason2242 bit late but apparently it's also because the game is horribly inefficient about the way it does the calculations, for example instead of one simple equation per planet it's multiple equations for every individual pop in the galaxy. There's also a lot of calculations that run with unnecesary frequency (for example the calculation to determine how much resources a pop produces is run every single in-game day despite the fact that your resource income itself only updates once a month)
On an old warhammer 40k mod, you would be attacked by chaos forces on twenty worlds in a row in an event that would happen every decade
I hate to be the one saying "Um Actually!" but, um.. actually...
The Imperium still knows how to build Battleships and Titans, but only on certain worlds. On some Forge worlds they can pump them out as easily as we see in Stellaris, while on others the knowledge to produce them has been lost and they may not even be able to fully operate or repair the ones they have. There's also a major issue with resource management, even if you have a planet that knows how to build Titans there's no guarantee they'll always have the resources to produce one.
Often times they don't really understand how it is really created, operated or maintained properly etc. They still can create some of the stuff but don't really understand how it is made if you would ask them to re-create the process of building the stuff somewhere else, they wouldn't be able to. So the moment some forge or a whole forge world is lost, some technology and other stuff are lost forever.
It's like they can practically change a tire from a car but don't really understand any theory behind the whole process. The moment they lose the means/tools/forges/whatever of changing a tire, it's lost completely.
This is one of the things I dislike about Stellaris, but it crops up in a lot of other strategy titles, too. A lack of technological and scientific regression. All of these games treat progress and development as an inevitable upward trajectory, as though things will only get better, and there's no way that the growth of knowledge could stall or decline.
I get that Stellaris isn't trying to be a realistic simulation of space politics, and that the linear, inevitable growth of techs and traditions is a gameplay conceit more than an attempt to simulate a historical narrative. But this tendency towards Whig history makes it impossible to properly simulate settings like Warhammer 40K, where the decline and ruin of the existing order are major themes.
@@tbotalpha8133 Stellaris does have the Fallen Empires, as well as two Origins that let you RP your empire as a former interstellar superpower. (Shattered Ring and Remnants)
There's also the End of the Cycle which completely annihilates your empire and sets you back to a single planet, and you could probably count the Machine Uprising event chain as well if you decide to resolve it by completely getting rid of all your robots & A.I
Not sure how the devs could implement the actual lose of previously researched technologies. Or if that would even be fun to play & manage since, IMO, it'd feel like a waste of all the time I spent on that particular game.
@@tbotalpha8133 there's a game called "galimulator" which has that technological and overall degeneration. you lose a lot of galactic territory during it so it's not really fun mechanic overall
@@TailAbNormal Some kind of education mechanic might work, where you'd need to invest resources into providing education services for your pops. And maintain libraries and the like, to preserve the accumulated knowledge of your people. And then at some point you might have to cut the education budget, causing your pops to lose their education level over time, making them less and less capable of more technical work.
Or your libraries might be destroyed, forcing you to rebuild and restock them before your pops forget important technologies. Or you might have to establish an institution like the Adeptus Mechanicus, that preserves old technology and manufacturing through ritualized maintenance. Allowing you to keep tech your pops no longer understand, but at the cost of kneecapping your future research.
Admittedly I don't know how it would work in the nitty-gritty, but there's a skeleton of an idea, there. As for whether it would be fun - I think It would require a different mindset from the player.
There's another game called Dwarf Fortress, where players are tasked with running a colony of fantasy Dwarves as they set up a new home in untouched wilderness. The game's tagline is "Losing is fun!". Because the game has so many detailed, interlocking systems, that when Dwarven society breaks down, it tends to do so in spectacular ways. Producing enthralling, captivating, and often grimly hilarious stories of the colony's collapse.
Essentially, the game puts so much effort into simulating decline and ruin, as well as stability and growth, that playing through the death of a colony can be just as dramatic and interesting as keeping it running properly. So it could be with Stellaris. You'd stop thinking about the game as a contest to be won, and start thinking about it as a Space Stories generator. Where you're just one actor on a galactic stage, rising and falling and changing with the times.
Hell, Paradox have already done this with Crusader Kings, where there are enough systems in place that you can happily play through the decline and collapse of your kingdom, and your ultimate usurpation by newer powers.
my god the border gore it's painful to look at
First day in the Imperium eh?
And the fall of Cadia hasn't even happened. That would be border gore.
I know I will never be able to run this mod, but boy, if you want to have just a GLIMPSE of what the administratum going through on a daily basis, this mod is it XDDD
Also to be as lore accurate as possible: no UI related mods period, and plug off your keyboard. Thar, now you are 0.5% administratum
Honestly the orks painting an entire planet really seems on brand
I think the only reason Aspec is able to run this mod its because it requires the 2.2 version, without a LOT of things that the newer versions have. Because otherwise his computer would start sounding like a f*cking Lamborghini before exploding like a system being hit by the Quasi Interstellar Obliterator from Gigastructures
Absolutely wrong. That Lambo has a potato up the tailpipe as well
Me: Describe Adeptus Administratum in one sentence.
Aspec: "We're just going to go ahead and ignore all of that..."
A better wh40k mod would be to take place at the beginning of the great crusade. That would be best since the imperium of man I'd just the solar system at that point beginning to go out and create the space empire. I have yet to see anybody have a mod start there. It's a no brainer
The Imperium didn't appear from nothing, but from the ashes of a federation. The other factions would grab a big chunk of the galaxy and do their own purge if it starts as a normal Stellaris game. If you make the start 30k and the Great Crusade, you won't end up nowhere near 40k at the midgame or whenever, even if you tried.
@@tortex1 not really only SOME minor factions took territory during the strife the big ones were still mostly stagnant from eldar to necron.
so it would be you starting off with sol with about 10 minor alien faction with just as small a starting zone.
with "fallen empire" type replacements representing the necrons and eldar who could reawaken like they can in stellaris.
@@housewilma4904 I suspect the minor factions would need negative modifiers to keep them from going completely ham.
The bigger issue I see is needing to make the galaxy mostly colonised, each planet with their own territory, navy etc. Terra would get a event when encountering a human nation to either annex them peacefully or conquer them (RNG). That would be... chaotic. And fps dropping most likely.
All that said, it sounds doable, but it would take a lot of work. And Stellaris doesn't do an important part of 40k, epic ground battles.
There are "more origins" mods that allow you to do some things that could help you simulate 30k. One lets you have two rival human civilizations bordering your starting system, for example.
"… Because they’re about to get purged beyond belief". Never change, Stellaris. Never change, Warhammer 40K.
I think warhammer could be implemented with a horus heresy start, to reclaim the galaxy, everything else is just insane...
You're thinking Age of Strife to reconquer Terra, and the Great Crusade to reunite the human planets throughout the galaxy. The Horus Heresy was the interruption of this process.
Please Paradox, get the licence to do a proper 40K version for a DLC. I'll buy it!😀
I still think a chaos daemons species pack would be awesome. Call it “shroudspawn” or something.
@@samueltitone5683 Isn't that basically the unbidden tho?
@@britishsoldier1186 there more like ghosts as a former species who built the Ascension Engine and fired it.
They should've made you do the Indomitus Crusade or the Great Crusade so that you have to conquer the planets instead of having so many planets from the get go
0:50 As a T'au Player myself I can assure that those damned Xenos do not want to live in peace and prosperity, thats why we show it to them ... by force
As an Ork and T'au player... I will never understand why people think the T'au are commies.
Why all this pain Aspec? I just mod the hell out of normal Stellaris for a pretty close 40K experience. There's even a mod which basically recreates the eye of terror. FOR THE EMPEROR!
heck between gigastructures, planetary diversity and some additional trait points, can pull off tyranids and imperium of man.
Infecting Planetary Hive origin (planetary diversity i believe) with Devouring Swarm and Organic Reprocessing civics, Add in Hive-minded, additional traits (im using a +12 one), rapid breeders, very strong, adaptive and quick learners. Theres your tyranids.
ive got like 4 mods that recreat eyes of terror always such a wonder to have age of stife word for word drop on the "mostly materlistic due to me" galaxys head.
I can already smell the Warcrimes
Recently I rolled back my Stellaris and tried to come up with a strategy to win in this scenario, but I think it may genuinely not be winnable, or it may just take years to do so.
Since the market is broken, I feel like a genuine strategy has to avoid it entirely (otherwise just trade for infinite resources, and win as any faction).
So to lay out the situation; there are IIRC 35 or 37 xeno empires, and each has at least 1 shipyard and at least 1 fleet at a strength between 52k and 187k. You get maybe a combined fleet power of 500-750k. The western half of the Imperium at first glance appears the safest, but immediately falls to events where human rebels secede, followed shortly thereafter by chaos invasions across 2 of the major clusters. I'm genuinely not sure if it's better to reconquer those worlds or focus elsewhere.
Eventually the events calm down and you get the relative peace of dealing with the AI factions, their fleets, and their invasions unaided by events - except if you invade an ork world they get an event dropping 1-5k troops and up to 100k fleet strength on at least one random world of yours. There are also random dark eldar raid events, chaos events up to invasions of random planets, and random ork invasions; where if they take your world and you retake it later, it spawns a counterattacking ork invasion on a random world.
Your mineral income appears fantastic, but isn't enough to rapidly turn around your economy, your food deficit is a major hurdle that quickly cascades into a consumer goods deficit and gridlocks the galactic economy; although you can conquer a few xeno worlds, set them to processing, and kill two birds with one stone. Your alloy production is abysmal given the scale of the problem.
After all there there are two major hurdles; the first is that your fleets are too small to defend everywhere and there are no choke points. You can amass your fleets to deal overwhelming damage to 1 enemy faction at a time, but "warp" / hyperlane travel damages and occasionally destroys ships in your fleet, so the very act of massing a battlefleet / crusade causes attrition to your fleets at a scale you can't afford to repair.
The second issue is just that it's so much to manage. The Imperium undoubtedly has, if not the resources, then the potential resources to overwhelm every single hostile faction one at a time; grinding down the galaxy one xenocidal campaign after the other until you can defeat what's left in a stand up fight. You start with something like 600 world and 13000 human pops, the issue is molding them into anything useful, and I personally can't imagine micromanaging production on that many worlds for as long as it would take to make it useful.
TL;DR Essentially, the Imperium is an ice sheet drifting into warm water, you have a small paddle. Do you fight the current, and try to return to colder seas, or do you spend your time doing anything else?
this would probaably be much more fun if the imperium was split into six perma allied nations which each had maybe a 150-200k fleet lol
That really is the absolute state of the galaxy in 40K, isn't it?
Especially with the Imperium. It easily has the resources to wipe out any one enemy faction. The problem is that ever focusing so much on one means they would be left wide open for the other 100 or so threats they face daily.
Someone once said, "The Imperium of Mankind is like a man hanging from a ledge by his fingertips. The only others there are also hanging from the ledge in other spots. He doesn't have enough strength to pull himself up, just to hold on for a few more seconds. Despite this, he decides to take one hand off to give everyone else the finger."
i think you can fix the food issue by altering the genes on a large amount of pops and turn them in corpstarch
I would love if they remade this so that you only control Terra, and the other parts be "vassal empires". It would simplify much of the action.
ya but i would keep curtain key systems like cadia and systems with space marine fortresses so you can still make those units and have most of the systems in a vassel federation that you have control of
This is basically guilliman waking up in the 41st
The reality is, if GW did a colaboration with Paradox and released this as an "expansion" the WH40k community would lap it up and call it the most realistic Administratum simulator ever and say daft things on Steam in the reviews like:
"11/10 - would get wrecked from all directions again and again"
"9/10 - No Tyranid hive fleet tried to kick my back doors in so minus 1 point"
"12/10 - Orc WAAAAGH tokyo-drifted into my flank and destoyed everything they touched - Perfection!"
"100/10 - A backwater world rebelled against the Emperor - Would Exterminatus again"
"11/10 - Cadia stands strong!..... edit: Cadia cracked in two but the planet broke before The Guard did. Tears of joy. Would let Cadia fall again!"
If there is someone who can manage all this and achieve a galaxy conquest then they are the true emperor of mankind
Glad to see Drifting Boyz back
"of course, we are immediately at war with everybody and everybody is at war with everybody"
40k in a nutshell
This seems great but my computer exploded earlier this year and now it fears i haven't learned anything from the past, just like the imperium
You have it a lot better than the council of terra. You get immediate and precise info and can immediately and accurately send out orders ^^
You know having the orks paint their symbol on a planet that can be seen from space is very in character for them and could possibly happen in 40k
8:28 congratulations, you've just experienced what it's like to be the head of the adeptus administratum
Its reasonable to think that we might have somewhere around 40 pre-heresey strengths legions just chilling around the galaxy forgotten because of mismanagement at this scale.
This is probably the best way to try and do a total war of Warhammer 40k. It's too vast and all encompassing. If you just do a world I don't think it will work
How to experience a thousandth of the pain the Man Emperor feels every second: attach a bunch of electrodes to yourself, download and start this mod, get through all the lore stuff then hit play, take your hands off the keyboard, put the game on fastest then turn the electrodes on.
Actual Title: "How Guilliman feels trying to run the imperium"
Every play through ends up as me role playing the imperium no matter where I start
But yeah…
Playing with a bunch of small mods is better than the big ones (so I’ve found)
+ I ended up uniting small mods, making preset AI empires for all major enemies (paradox still spawned their garbage intead half of them, evne if they all were forced to spawn), and then starting as it is Age of Crusades, and I have to reclaim galactic.
If it's painless is it really Warhammer 40k?
Now that's what I call a wide empire
So how has the Star Trek conversion mod(s) aged with the newer versions of stellaris?
I should really check tbh
It at least has been updated just a month ago more or less so it's far from abandoned, but I also would like to see what they did with the new mechanics.
its just been getting more and more details and shipsets as time goes on.
"I've played one year of gameplay"
Lots happening in M40 999
5:29 *Down the rabbithole we go!*
Nothing makes me more exited to start a campaign than seeing that I already have 10 planets to sort out...
Ok, ignoring the numerous hoops you have to jump through, the starting map and scenario seems AWESOME to play.
Everyone gangsta untill they actually get to play as the empire and see how much of a clusterfuck it is.
*The Imperium
eldar go into the eye of terror to find those soul gems thingies from their ruined former planets
Crone worlds aren't places where Eldar should really be :/
Have a great weekend brother. 😀
i like Stellaris alot, i just sumble across this mod i realy hope it got updated further and is now even better. it would be cool we get a realy Warhammer 40K game in space Stellaris style with realy flesht out mechanics and many other features too. I also stil lwhait for a mmorpg in the warhammer 40K universe sadly the one that was in development many years ago never finisht.
Tau: Have you ever tried diplomacy, instead of killing everything?
Humanity: Yes, that is precisely why I kill everything.
Tau: That's not what I asked?
Humanity: Yes it is.
"Yea were just gonna go ahead and ignore all of that" the emperor of mankind concerning the management of imperial world circ 35000
Lol. Basicly Guilliman Simulator 2022!
> "Why are there so many wars going on all the time?"
In the GrimDark future there is only WAR!
Also he chose the Total War start, with the words: "That sounds fun"..
> "...running out of food."
Faith in The Emprah will sustain us!
"Jesus Christ what a mess"
That's about right
Not sure my computer can run this but the team behind the mod deserve praise
The Ork ships drifting had me dieing!!!! If enough believe.
0:21 That ship is massive!
Tau Empire for the win
Orks drifting in space during a battle is such a ork thing to do
administratum in a nutshell
*looks at all the sectors and planets with a lack of resources*
"so we're just gonna go ahead and ignore all of that"
Tbh, when Tyranids ate their first planet of the Imperium, it took them 5 years to notice it in the first place. Administrative brothel is the standart state of things 😂
I thought my youtube glitched when I heard ranboo, thanks aspec
For the record, the craftworld orbiting the Eye Of Terror is Ulthwe
ASpec: "Where is Cadia?"
me with my hand on my heart: here
The Guard never broke.
Live footage of the administratum trying to manage the empire.
Why would the administratum of the *Imperium* of Man have anything to do with running the *T'au* Empire?
Selects Map o' War.
Gets into game.
Wars break out everywhere.
*surprised Pikachu face*
I was confused with the other mod, but thanks to you, i can finally play a good warhammer mod... all the dlcs purchase during years, all, finally comes together
Literally just an average day of running the imperium right here
Just another day at the office in the Warhammer 40k universe
Hand me the parchment citizen, there be worlds in that there galaxy
"In the far future there is only war." Really? No shit.
This is grim dark of far away future there only war
2:22 "tau_commie"
Damn weeaboo space communists.
Everybody says it, nobody knows what it means... memes based on a false premise deserve to be purged.
Like calling Tyranids bugs... just wrong on so many levels.
There’s a ceritan amount of irony in the fact that the tau are the only ones who’s picture thingy is working as intended
This is what the necrons see in the star map place
Riiiiight before they casually *boop* a planet.
@@A_Spec Necrons justifying it as “Fixing Endgame Lag”
You should have like the option of a "federated" Imperium of Mankind, and only play a part of the Imperium.
You ask yourself, How am I gonna manage all this mess?
That's the neat part. You don't!
I can hear the adpetus mechanicus cogitators literally screeching at this.
Was not expecting Ranboo's voice at the beginning