That’s why whole goal with my UA-cam and I’m so happy I’ve been able to help people improve😎 Thanks for letting me know, I love these kinds of comments!
just know ur just a little bitty monster at the bottom of the ranks……..cuz you got players like me at the warlord legendary level that lasted only for hours…..and then every other warlords above me…..then tournament players above them……and then folks above them…..and then the real last level bosses like AB and Punk………just sayinnnnn but keep grindin though🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😁😁😁😁😁
There's one more option select that you should consider covering, which is block and option select jump. This takes advantage of the 2 frames of throw invincibility upon exiting hitstun/blockstun. So i.e., after blocking cr.MK xx DR jab, use the block + option select jump to block the chained jab, and jump if they happened to attempt a tick throw. You'll still get hit if they do a frame trap, but the risk is reduced significantly because getting hit during prejump frames does not grant counterhit. And if they leave a big gap in their frame trap then you'll be airborne and thus go into a reset animation. However you open yourself up to a new threat which is a low. Since this defensive option select can be treated like stand block option select (unless you are frame perfect with down+back block and then immediately jump, which is probably only possible with leverless), you'll lose to lows. e.g. something like cr.MK xx DR cr.LP xx cr.LK. We can still consider this as reduced risk though because of damage scaling from lights and limited combo potential from lights + low, compared to eating a frame trap or shimmy.
Good information as always ! It would be huge if we could react to cr.MK > DRC with a Drive Reversal, like within the start-up of the DRC. Right now it's just a huge commitment with so much risk if the opponent does not go for it.
@@swordsman721 Issue is it's not really 3 bars. They throw you and then get oki and they're already regenerating drive gauge. Like think about getting button + drive rush throw by like DeeJay and he does another drive rush throw and then a meaty fireball. It already feels like you're in the blender in mid-screen, and he's just chilling getting his drive gauge back and he built some juicy super meter. It's not the damage that matters, it's the screen space and positioning you give up after a throw.
@@swordsman721 Depend on which situation though. Like if the opponent is cornered but somehow is able to get a cr.MK > DRC (like by baiting a shimmy or at the end of a blockstring where you end up negative), the throw is much more dangerous as you would be the one cornered. But yeah, mid-screen against most character it's better to just take the throw. There are still some throw better than other, like Ken back throw which is really good to put people in the corner.
Comment for the algorithm: Very helpfull video as always, you are the goat man. I'm currently at mid platinum, and crMK DR starts to get pretty obnoxious and always ends up in me eating a throw. Will hit the lab and do this drill right away. Thank you so much for all your work, it has helped me to improve a lot.
The mental stack in this game is just nuts lol…u just named like 89 different possibilities for offense and defense….I play this game a lot…and I’ve always recognized the mental stack as a general thing as far as mechanics and all the things I have to watch out for….but watching this video made me realize the mental stack that’s also involved from a moment to moment perspective such as a cr mk into drive rush…..it’s wild when u think about it and almost makes sf6 sound like a really technical game
Perfect time to make this video. I personally Am not able to do drive rush off of medium kicks so I’d always lose to anyone capable of doing drive rush cancels off of crouch medium kicks and i always get hit by them a lot. Makes me concerned how far I can climb the MR rankings not being able to drc off of crouch medium kicks. Anyways appreciate the video hopefully it’ll help me not lose as many games
Do you have a macro for drive rush? if not, do it makes it easier to execute. If yes when you do cr. medium kick let go of any button(cr. button, medium kick) and then press drive rush button. It will work.
For a second I thought this was Brian_F when I saw the SF6 content. Then I’m like…”wait. This voice is different. Aw snap, this is actually useful material”
That's what option selects are for. Instead of reacting to every option, you do one pattern that reacts to multiple options. You don't need fast reactions to play fighting games although obv it doesn't hurt.
hey there's 1 last option u forgot, midscreen you can backdash after blocking the dr button which avoids the grab and the shimmy but loses to the frametrap, although depending on the frametrap sometimes it moves you too far for them to confirm
3:20 Could you elaborate on what these methods for countering Drive Reversal are? I'm in the 1500 Masters range and people still haven't been punishing me for leaning on this option so if there's a super efficient way to do it that's news to me. Best I've found in the lab is delaying pressure so you can react with a super.
Sorry I totally missed this comment!! You can do drive rush into a 4F light normal and then guard to sometimes beat drive reversal. If their reactions are a touch late you’ll recover in time to block the drive reversal like this. Otherwise, just doing a cr mp/mk into nothing can really mess up their timing if they’re always going for drive reversal.
Good info on Drive Reversal, delay throw tech & delay jab. I don't have a DP, so less to practice/risk. 🙂 Nice to know on 2 min. Finally did ranked placement & ended up lower than I hoped. Don't remember seeing cMK>Rush yet. But I may see it in the future. Solid vid. Thanks.
@@Chris_F Picked Intermediates, went 4-6, & am Iron. Finished SF5 at gold. Watched good players using my main & countless tech vids, but some people are better.
@jettmana in iron ranks, don’t worry about thinking. You don’t need tech or anything remotely complicated. Don’t jump. Block. Anti-air people who jump (and they will jump). Learn one combo and use it. Wait for the opponent to do DI and react with your own DI.
@@Chris_F Oh, I have to think about offense & defense (some character-specific stuff, like command grabs) or I lose. I know from watching so many vids about AAs & DI. Still got hit by DI sometimes & some players were better. But thanks. 😉
I normally don't play Akuma but I tried to set it up. I've tried recording slot 1 like you said but if I'm as Blanka doing my OD upball as a response to him DR after CR MK, it beats both slot 1 and slot 2 (slot 2 being more lenient of course). Meaning my OD upball comes out and I don't get to throw tech if I do what you said at @12:15. Does it mean my DR cr LP is too slow?
is there is a way to win against OD reversal option select, or you just have to jab for gapless string and do the +3 guess if you opponent is locked in and buffers OD reverse perfectly for the initial 2MP drive rush guess
is it not feasible to react to the sound / green color with a Drive reversal everytime? i know drive rush cancel from a light into a light is hard to drive reversal but i feel like cr mk drive rush cancel is reactable.
@@Chris_F I tested it a long time ago and you only have around 11-13f to react to the green flash, otherwise the opponent can bait the Drive Reversal with a quick jab. If you know they're going to DR cancel then you can start reacting to the 2MK itself, but otherwise it seems pretty impractical
Rewatch the beginning of the video. Essentially, set the CPU to do neutral jump and then cr.Mk. Practice walking in and out without getting clipped by cr.mk!
about the shoriyuken input I actually have a question how it would work for charged invuln moves like guile flashkick since it cant be buffered the same way. Is it more that I need to react to the gap or is there another option select method?
Well if you're always charging, you can just let it rip as soon as you see the green flash. If they press jab after the drive rush, it wont come out. If they press anything else or nothing at all, they get flash kicked.
Yup, above comment is correct. Only issue charge characters have is that if you DO go for that option, you lose charge so you can’t reversal against the next mixup if they did a gapless string
great video again Chris ! not too be negative but I'm just venting it out. I really hate that its crucial to have low forwards and dps in this game. even tho its arguably the best street fighter out, playing against people your level, youre at a disadvantagefrom the get go. if you dont have a low forward/dp you already lost at the character select screen just my opinion. i just wanted to get vent it out there lol my bad chris
Fireball > drive rush OD reversal low forward > drive rush Having one (or all) means you will have an easier time setting/controlling the pace. If you have none of those good luck. I’m hesitant to say disadvantage because a character with none of those usually has something to try and balance it out. But it’s still harder for them.
@@Chris_F guile has fireball > drive rush and OD reversal though. I’ll kinda give you Gief though. I don’t think he can set the pace of the match as easily as other characters but he will take advantage of your hesitation to do so and at that point it’s all him
If you could know how much your videos had helped me playing you would be so proud cause you’re creating a monster, thank you so much 😂😂😂
That’s why whole goal with my UA-cam and I’m so happy I’ve been able to help people improve😎
Thanks for letting me know, I love these kinds of comments!
he knows now lol
just know ur just a little bitty monster at the bottom of the ranks……..cuz you got players like me at the warlord legendary level that lasted only for hours…..and then every other warlords above me…..then tournament players above them……and then folks above them…..and then the real last level bosses like AB and Punk………just sayinnnnn but keep grindin though🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️😁😁😁😁😁
@@Chris_F you’re such an amazing person gg 🔥
Let’s go monster I need more stronger foes lol
Always practical and relevant content. Thanks man!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
There's one more option select that you should consider covering, which is block and option select jump. This takes advantage of the 2 frames of throw invincibility upon exiting hitstun/blockstun. So i.e., after blocking cr.MK xx DR jab, use the block + option select jump to block the chained jab, and jump if they happened to attempt a tick throw. You'll still get hit if they do a frame trap, but the risk is reduced significantly because getting hit during prejump frames does not grant counterhit. And if they leave a big gap in their frame trap then you'll be airborne and thus go into a reset animation.
However you open yourself up to a new threat which is a low. Since this defensive option select can be treated like stand block option select (unless you are frame perfect with down+back block and then immediately jump, which is probably only possible with leverless), you'll lose to lows. e.g. something like cr.MK xx DR cr.LP xx cr.LK. We can still consider this as reduced risk though because of damage scaling from lights and limited combo potential from lights + low, compared to eating a frame trap or shimmy.
I totally forgot to include this and yes you’re right!
Love your videos! I send most of them to my buddy/rival just to make sure I don't get to far ahead haha. Keep up the good work!
Awesome! Thank you!
Good information as always ! It would be huge if we could react to cr.MK > DRC with a Drive Reversal, like within the start-up of the DRC. Right now it's just a huge commitment with so much risk if the opponent does not go for it.
Blocking and taking the throw is also a strong option . 3 bars for a grab , its just something to consider
@@swordsman721 Issue is it's not really 3 bars. They throw you and then get oki and they're already regenerating drive gauge. Like think about getting button + drive rush throw by like DeeJay and he does another drive rush throw and then a meaty fireball. It already feels like you're in the blender in mid-screen, and he's just chilling getting his drive gauge back and he built some juicy super meter. It's not the damage that matters, it's the screen space and positioning you give up after a throw.
@@swordsman721 Depend on which situation though. Like if the opponent is cornered but somehow is able to get a cr.MK > DRC (like by baiting a shimmy or at the end of a blockstring where you end up negative), the throw is much more dangerous as you would be the one cornered.
But yeah, mid-screen against most character it's better to just take the throw. There are still some throw better than other, like Ken back throw which is really good to put people in the corner.
I think this is why having good spacing and neutral is so important bc it helps you avoid the mixup in the first place
@mustang12345 100% right man , it depends on the situation and your opponents habits. This game is RPS there is no right or wrong answer
Comment for the algorithm: Very helpfull video as always, you are the goat man. I'm currently at mid platinum, and crMK DR starts to get pretty obnoxious and always ends up in me eating a throw. Will hit the lab and do this drill right away. Thank you so much for all your work, it has helped me to improve a lot.
Thank you so much! I’m so happy I was able to help you! Only up from here💪🏻
Thank you for this content, this give so much value i going to hit master for you and after going for the legend rank.
Congrats!! I love getting comments like this so thank you! Just keep up the practice and I’m sure you’ll get there!
The mental stack in this game is just nuts lol…u just named like 89 different possibilities for offense and defense….I play this game a lot…and I’ve always recognized the mental stack as a general thing as far as mechanics and all the things I have to watch out for….but watching this video made me realize the mental stack that’s also involved from a moment to moment perspective such as a cr mk into drive rush…..it’s wild when u think about it and almost makes sf6 sound like a really technical game
You’re right, mental stack is wild in this one!
Perfect time to make this video. I personally
Am not able to do drive rush off of medium kicks so I’d always lose to anyone capable of doing drive rush cancels off of crouch medium kicks and i always get hit by them a lot. Makes me concerned how far I can climb the MR rankings not being able to drc off of crouch medium kicks.
Anyways appreciate the video hopefully it’ll help me not lose as many games
Do you have a macro for drive rush? if not, do it makes it easier to execute.
If yes when you do cr. medium kick let go of any button(cr. button, medium kick) and then press drive rush button. It will work.
Do you mean your character can’t do cr MK DR or you personally can’t do it because of execution issues?
@@Chris_F second one
Then it’s just a matter of practice. Someone replied to you here with the correct information, so just follow that
Use the macro (stick neutral + parry button)
Thank you bro .amazing content.
Glad you liked it!
Very good educational video, thank you
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for this video. I am having trouble with akumas forward punch and crouching medium punch strings. how to beat this
As always amazing work !
Thank you so much 😀
This is an incredible video, thank you.
Thank you so much!
finally, delayed tech explained in a way me as a new player can understand
For a second I thought this was Brian_F when I saw the SF6 content. Then I’m like…”wait. This voice is different. Aw snap, this is actually useful material”
I think this is a compliment?😅 If so, thanks!
@@Chris_F 100% sir 🙇♂️
man, this game requires crazy reactions 😄
All fighting games do!
That's what option selects are for. Instead of reacting to every option, you do one pattern that reacts to multiple options. You don't need fast reactions to play fighting games although obv it doesn't hurt.
Not really? It is good but the game rewards you if you read your opponent quickly and adapt to their offense/defense
hey there's 1 last option u forgot, midscreen you can backdash after blocking the dr button which avoids the grab and the shimmy but loses to the frametrap, although depending on the frametrap sometimes it moves you too far for them to confirm
True, I forgot about this one! Thx!
3:20 Could you elaborate on what these methods for countering Drive Reversal are? I'm in the 1500 Masters range and people still haven't been punishing me for leaning on this option so if there's a super efficient way to do it that's news to me. Best I've found in the lab is delaying pressure so you can react with a super.
Sorry I totally missed this comment!!
You can do drive rush into a 4F light normal and then guard to sometimes beat drive reversal. If their reactions are a touch late you’ll recover in time to block the drive reversal like this. Otherwise, just doing a cr mp/mk into nothing can really mess up their timing if they’re always going for drive reversal.
Good info on Drive Reversal, delay throw tech & delay jab. I don't have a DP, so less to practice/risk. 🙂
Nice to know on 2 min. Finally did ranked placement & ended up lower than I hoped. Don't remember seeing cMK>Rush yet.
But I may see it in the future. Solid vid. Thanks.
Where did you place in ranked?
@@Chris_F Picked Intermediates, went 4-6, & am Iron. Finished SF5 at gold. Watched good players using my main & countless tech vids, but some people are better.
@jettmana in iron ranks, don’t worry about thinking. You don’t need tech or anything remotely complicated. Don’t jump. Block. Anti-air people who jump (and they will jump). Learn one combo and use it. Wait for the opponent to do DI and react with your own DI.
@@Chris_F Oh, I have to think about offense & defense (some character-specific stuff, like command grabs) or I lose. I know from watching so many vids about AAs & DI. Still got hit by DI sometimes & some players were better. But thanks. 😉
@jettmanas who are you playing?
I normally don't play Akuma but I tried to set it up. I've tried recording slot 1 like you said but if I'm as Blanka doing my OD upball as a response to him DR after CR MK, it beats both slot 1 and slot 2 (slot 2 being more lenient of course). Meaning my OD upball comes out and I don't get to throw tech if I do what you said at @12:15. Does it mean my DR cr LP is too slow?
Most likely recorded too slow. There shouldn’t be enough time for OD moves to even come out
@@Chris_F Thanks, I'll tighten it up then!
is there is a way to win against OD reversal option select, or you just have to jab for gapless string and do the +3 guess if you opponent is locked in and buffers OD reverse perfectly for the initial 2MP drive rush guess
Just jab to prevent the reversal from coming out, it’s pure RPS
Any further suggestions for characters with no invul DP or cancellable 2MK?
Time to play RPS
If they have a cancellable cr MP you can use that (that’s what I do with guile when I don’t want to flash kick)
is it not feasible to react to the sound / green color with a Drive reversal everytime? i know drive rush cancel from a light into a light is hard to drive reversal but i feel like cr mk drive rush cancel is reactable.
Definitely reactable
@@Chris_F I tested it a long time ago and you only have around 11-13f to react to the green flash, otherwise the opponent can bait the Drive Reversal with a quick jab. If you know they're going to DR cancel then you can start reacting to the 2MK itself, but otherwise it seems pretty impractical
Bro your the best. I wish i could sub twice 😂
Aww thx!
You deserve more subs
Thank you! Hopefully I can keep putting out content ppl enjoy and the subs will come in time
Any drills to not get clipped by crouching mk in the first place?
Rewatch the beginning of the video. Essentially, set the CPU to do neutral jump and then cr.Mk. Practice walking in and out without getting clipped by cr.mk!
This!
Any tips on dealing with fireball wars? I feel like I'm always being beat out as Luke vs other shoto fireballs
I’ll try to make a video about this
I like to use "delayed drive reversal" in this situation ^_^
What do you think is a good default option against a new unknown opponent? Delay tech? Delay jab?
Depends how much health you have and the matchup, but in general, just block!
about the shoriyuken input I actually have a question how it would work for charged invuln moves like guile flashkick since it cant be buffered the same way.
Is it more that I need to react to the gap or is there another option select method?
Well if you're always charging, you can just let it rip as soon as you see the green flash. If they press jab after the drive rush, it wont come out. If they press anything else or nothing at all, they get flash kicked.
@@HSGamingHD ahhhh ok I see. Thank you very much for this!
Yup, above comment is correct. Only issue charge characters have is that if you DO go for that option, you lose charge so you can’t reversal against the next mixup if they did a gapless string
Why is low crouch m punch is not a low hit btw?
Because that move isn’t a low
Because that's illegal
great video again Chris ! not too be negative but I'm just venting it out. I really hate that its crucial to have low forwards and dps in this game. even tho its arguably the best street fighter out, playing against people your level, youre at a disadvantagefrom the get go. if you dont have a low forward/dp you already lost at the character select screen just my opinion. i just wanted to get vent it out there lol my bad chris
Fireball > drive rush
OD reversal
low forward > drive rush
Having one (or all) means you will have an easier time setting/controlling the pace. If you have none of those good luck.
I’m hesitant to say disadvantage because a character with none of those usually has something to try and balance it out. But it’s still harder for them.
Not true exactly though. Guile and zangief can’t do cr MK drive rush and they are both top 10 characters in this current patch.
Thanks for watching!
@@Chris_F guile has fireball > drive rush and OD reversal though.
I’ll kinda give you Gief though. I don’t think he can set the pace of the match as easily as other characters but he will take advantage of your hesitation to do so and at that point it’s all him
If your character doesn't have reversal in this game, that character is screwed.
Bison and gief are right there
Tell that to xiaohai, he won 300k recently with bison