Got my hands on a labradar so im here to update the BC. Temp @ 88°F, Humidity @ 33%, Local pressure @ 28.84"Hg. MV was 2532fps. At 75yds we get a G1 of 0.42. Retested with a MV of 1,839fps @100yds, we get a G1 of 0.365. Much better results than in the video, though I'm unsure how much the winter conditions played in?
Cool video, that's exactly why I went to 165gr sst's. Better penetration & weight retention out of my 308win 20"barrel. My load is 46.5gr BL-C(2) CCI primers Federal brass COAL 2.820" 165GR SST 2727 FPS, ES 22 & SD9. Groups .50" to .75" @100yds out of my mod70 feather weight Thanks for your hard work in the cold!
I agree with the heavier weights. I couldn't find any on self, so I tried to duplicate Hornady's load of 2,820 fps. I do not know what barrel length they use, but I would assume it's either 24" or 26". I'm lead to believe that these are either intended for shorter barrels in the 16-18" range, or more farther out when the bullet has slowed down a little. Devastating on a broadside hit, but I'm unsure if I would feel ok taking a quartering shot with the 150s, at least loaded to Hornady's specs
The sst In. Any weight don't drive deep well. They come apart fast and break up. Go to a light for cal 130 ta 150 bonded bullet. Or mono. That's the sweet spot for 308. Hits hard but drive deep!
@@REDNECKROOTSalways got a big exit hole even on quartering hits with 165gr plus chest cavity turned to soup. 7 deer I shot were all bang flops, no tracking at all
@keithreese9636 I've got nothing but bloodshot meat and shallow pen. The lungs were soup both times so guess it worked. But I don't feel confident it would every time. I never hit big bone either . Idk 🤷♂️. They all kill shit
My SST story. Took a buddy to TX on his first pronghorn hunt. He bought a new Remington 700 stainless 308 and factory Hornady 150 gr SST ammo. Shot really well. Day 3 he shot his buck at 250 yards hitting it perfectly in the mid shoulder. The buck fell, then got up. Shot number 2 hit the same spot. Buck fell, got up but so stunned he didn't go anywhere. We started walking up to the buck which never moved. Shot 3 at 100 yards knocked him down. He got up again. At this point I am wondering if this is really happening. Shot 4 at 50 yards knocked him over. He stayed down. At 5 yards we got a great look at what was happening. Every SST bullet was exploding on the scapula. There was NO hair, NO meat left but the vitals were only taking a big thump, no penetration. I had never seen anything like this in decades of hunting. I was seeing what I had heard Nosler Ballistic Tips were allegedly known for even though they never failed me. Shot number 5 was at about 3 inches from the buck and BEHIND the shoulder. That was the killing shot. The only reason I bought any SST bullets was last year and for the first time ever in 6.5mm and they were ONLY to reshoot my 6.5-284 Norma brass to open the case mouth back up to fired diameter just to trim the donut inside. To me, SSTs are good for practice, plinking, or some other benign purpose but I would NEVER use them on a live animal. And yes, I made my decision based on this one experience.
That was my feeling with these in the 150gr weight class for 30-06 and 308 win. They are designed in a way that they're almost too efficient at expansion and behave like a varmit bullet, especially when connecting with whitetail shoulder bone. Although I would have thought that after 200 yards out, velocity would have decreased enough to hold together for you, I guess not. Maybe in something a lot slower like a box mag 30-30.
@@raysbudgetslowmo After witnessing what I did, I'll ONLY use them to fireform brass or practice since they are on the cheaper end and you can buy 2nds even cheaper. That SST bullet did what I heard all the nightmare stories about Nosler ballistic tips which have done nothing but perform flawlessly for me since 1990
@derekmcmurry4263 Can not blame you. I don't have any personal experience with the Nosler ballistic tips, only the SST's. I'll have to start looking into them. I keep the SST's around since they can be cheaper than standard ball FMJs, and they don't take chunks out of the gongs.
Yes, I believe I brought it up in the video but never gave exact temp numbers. These were loaded at 66°F and then brought outside, where it ranged from 6°F to the high teens in direct light without any wind factor. Bl-c(2) is a double base powder and is very susceptible to temperature variations. The 2nd part contained only temp controlled with a standard deviation of 18fps over 5 shots. That's largely why I felt it needed a part 2 added in.
20" of penetration is infact a non issue, though in gel there is no bone simulation. I fear with the rapid expansion at these speeds, yes you will blow the shoulder out and the deer isnt going anywhere quick, but is there going to be enough bullet to continue or is a 2nd shot needed. I've looked for ways to simulate bone but I haven't found any cheap and consistent ways yet.
Got my hands on a labradar so im here to update the BC. Temp @ 88°F, Humidity @ 33%, Local pressure @ 28.84"Hg. MV was 2532fps. At 75yds we get a G1 of 0.42. Retested with a MV of 1,839fps @100yds, we get a G1 of 0.365. Much better results than in the video, though I'm unsure how much the winter conditions played in?
Cool video, that's exactly why I went to 165gr sst's. Better penetration & weight retention out of my 308win 20"barrel. My load is 46.5gr BL-C(2) CCI primers Federal brass COAL 2.820" 165GR SST 2727 FPS, ES 22 & SD9. Groups .50" to .75" @100yds out of my mod70 feather weight Thanks for your hard work in the cold!
I agree with the heavier weights. I couldn't find any on self, so I tried to duplicate Hornady's load of 2,820 fps. I do not know what barrel length they use, but I would assume it's either 24" or 26". I'm lead to believe that these are either intended for shorter barrels in the 16-18" range, or more farther out when the bullet has slowed down a little. Devastating on a broadside hit, but I'm unsure if I would feel ok taking a quartering shot with the 150s, at least loaded to Hornady's specs
The sst In. Any weight don't drive deep well. They come apart fast and break up. Go to a light for cal 130 ta 150 bonded bullet. Or mono. That's the sweet spot for 308. Hits hard but drive deep!
This is just gel. If there was bone in tgere it would have completely come apart. Sst are junk in my opinion.
@@REDNECKROOTSalways got a big exit hole even on quartering hits with 165gr plus chest cavity turned to soup. 7 deer I shot were all bang flops, no tracking at all
@keithreese9636 I've got nothing but bloodshot meat and shallow pen. The lungs were soup both times so guess it worked. But I don't feel confident it would every time. I never hit big bone either . Idk 🤷♂️. They all kill shit
My SST story. Took a buddy to TX on his first pronghorn hunt. He bought a new Remington 700 stainless 308 and factory Hornady 150 gr SST ammo. Shot really well. Day 3 he shot his buck at 250 yards hitting it perfectly in the mid shoulder. The buck fell, then got up. Shot number 2 hit the same spot. Buck fell, got up but so stunned he didn't go anywhere. We started walking up to the buck which never moved. Shot 3 at 100 yards knocked him down. He got up again. At this point I am wondering if this is really happening. Shot 4 at 50 yards knocked him over. He stayed down. At 5 yards we got a great look at what was happening. Every SST bullet was exploding on the scapula. There was NO hair, NO meat left but the vitals were only taking a big thump, no penetration. I had never seen anything like this in decades of hunting. I was seeing what I had heard Nosler Ballistic Tips were allegedly known for even though they never failed me. Shot number 5 was at about 3 inches from the buck and BEHIND the shoulder. That was the killing shot. The only reason I bought any SST bullets was last year and for the first time ever in 6.5mm and they were ONLY to reshoot my 6.5-284 Norma brass to open the case mouth back up to fired diameter just to trim the donut inside. To me, SSTs are good for practice, plinking, or some other benign purpose but I would NEVER use them on a live animal. And yes, I made my decision based on this one experience.
Yep, had the same result on whitetails .
Sounds like a varmint grenade.
That was my feeling with these in the 150gr weight class for 30-06 and 308 win. They are designed in a way that they're almost too efficient at expansion and behave like a varmit bullet, especially when connecting with whitetail shoulder bone. Although I would have thought that after 200 yards out, velocity would have decreased enough to hold together for you, I guess not. Maybe in something a lot slower like a box mag 30-30.
@@raysbudgetslowmo After witnessing what I did, I'll ONLY use them to fireform brass or practice since they are on the cheaper end and you can buy 2nds even cheaper. That SST bullet did what I heard all the nightmare stories about Nosler ballistic tips which have done nothing but perform flawlessly for me since 1990
@derekmcmurry4263 Can not blame you. I don't have any personal experience with the Nosler ballistic tips, only the SST's. I'll have to start looking into them. I keep the SST's around since they can be cheaper than standard ball FMJs, and they don't take chunks out of the gongs.
Huge standard deviation.
Yes, I believe I brought it up in the video but never gave exact temp numbers. These were loaded at 66°F and then brought outside, where it ranged from 6°F to the high teens in direct light without any wind factor. Bl-c(2) is a double base powder and is very susceptible to temperature variations. The 2nd part contained only temp controlled with a standard deviation of 18fps over 5 shots. That's largely why I felt it needed a part 2 added in.
Needs some serious editing.
Lol!
With 20" of penetration a 64% weight retention is a non-issue.
20" of penetration is infact a non issue, though in gel there is no bone simulation. I fear with the rapid expansion at these speeds, yes you will blow the shoulder out and the deer isnt going anywhere quick, but is there going to be enough bullet to continue or is a 2nd shot needed. I've looked for ways to simulate bone but I haven't found any cheap and consistent ways yet.