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Thanks for your insight. I can agree that at first glance, it can look underwhelming. One must consider that the shotgun slug has 2.9x the mass of a standard 150gr 30 cal projectile, while having 5.6x the surface area. This leads to 0.52x sectional density. This is just 1 reason to the reduced penetration because it increases the amount of energy distributed per inch of penetration. While modern expanding hunting bullets can deliver similar permanent wound size (by using speed) they fall short in delivering that energy as efficiently as the foster slug. As well as the increased surface area leading to a much larger entrance hole enhancing the rate at which blood pressure will be lost. The pros and cons are up to you but with proper shot placement both are undoubtedly effective.

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I get stats and numbers that I need. I don't have a lab radar or gel. I greatly appreciate these videos. So kindly F#&% Off with the bad attitude.

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Thank you. Hope all is going well on the other side of the ocean for you.

@ixb1 That's what I thought, but it showed consistent through multiple firings for me. It's probably contributed to my environmental variables. Temp: 60°F, Humidity: 47%, Local Pressure: 29.15"Hg. As well as where it falls in the transonic range being mach .87, in a relatively high drag speed until it slows below 900 fps. But that's just my thought on why it's so low. BC might be much higher in the 1500+ range since. I plan to do future tests with higher charge weights

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRS7LjYVZ8cAei0Zm7yP1iK1wrOVuLFCFzC5WLEqQCM0UBJaE4siHVqI6mBYpCOCdU2z_IL4tCDue5Z/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true This is a start of a BC spreadsheet for the 320gr REAL bullet, I was planning on making a video but it appears much more data points are needed before. If we look at BC average over 75 yards, it falls into what I believed was happening. A decrease up to the sound barrier and then the BC would increase again, although when I started to compile the individual 25-yard BC's I saw something oddly familiar with that of air gun pellets. Extreme BC inconsistency in the 900 to the low 1,200 fps range, even for shots that are sub 5 ft/s apart. This is something very similar to what diablo pellets do when the pellet skirt no longer acts as a mean of stabilization and wobbles out of the supersonic vacuum around the head of the pellet, creating a moment of increased drag before being pushed back into the vacuum. The 75-yard averages don't show this because enough time was given to restabilize to projectible, or the projectile fell out of the transonic zone. But that's just my thought with such a limited number of data points. Once the bullet gets over 1,250fps the BC becomes consistent once again slowly increasing the faster it moves, probably due to allowing enough time to allow the bullet to stabilize on its own while still in the supersonic range before some parts experience transonic waves.

@1776goodfight I didn't have the right words to describe the texture. It's slightly gummy like glue that's not fully set. I guess Hornady FTX is their brand. It works great at keeping the cavity clear so far in the Gold dots

@mimicocto8 I believe your 100% right. This was my first time ever trying monolithic, although it was kind of interesting to see how drastic a little bit of fouling was to the loads. Almost 100 fps slower and erratic, whereas traditional lead cores typically speed up and become more consistent with a light foul (at least in these cheaper barrels). I'll have to revist these in the future with a spotless bore and stretch them out a little farther

@@raysbudgetslowmo If you decide to reload monolithics, IF, be sure to be careful with the pressures. They will increase in pressure a bit more than a regular copper/lead bullet. Good stuff on game though. Keep it up!

@mimicocto8 Thank you, and thank you for the warning, I'm well aware of the pressure increase in mono's. Initial pressure of 10,000 psi compared to around 2,600 psi for standard jacketed bullets. As well as needing to be seated deeper into the case for the same C.O.A.L compared to lead equivalents. I ran some load simulations, and it's VERY easy to make an 85,000+ psi pipe bomb if you're not careful with powder selection/charge consistency.

@lamardaniels6625 @lamardaniels6625 while I don't have the bt65 in .22 cal, I do have it in .177 cal. It slings 13.4gr jsb exact monsters at an avg of 1,007fps for 30 ft/lbs with stock hammer tension, which had to be turned down for accuracy. The .35 cal puts out 85-90 ft/lbs with pellets. That's 82gr around 690-700fps at max hammer tension. I will say shot count is fairly limited for the sweet spot. I get 1 6 round mag within 10 ft/s ES and for my particular rifle that is at 165 bar to 140 bar . Personally I feel the 30 cal would have been a better choice as that is what the Carnivore was designed for, with the .35 being an after thought. Cheaper pellets and similar fpe. I haven't paid much attention to the Factor sniper honestly. A quick search through airgun nation shows a video in which they were getting 930fps with 25.4gr .22 pellets which is just shy of 49 fpe and they were only at half hammer tension. I can see it potentially getting 80 fpe, though you're going to be shooting 40gr slugs at 950fps or supersonic with anything lighter to get there. I don't know enough to say if a 40gr pill would fit in the mag or if it would need to be single loaded.

Should clarify, with pellets I can run 2 mags at 85 ft/lbs. With slugs it drops to 1 mag. The reduced weight and friction of the pellet allow for a slightly more forgiving shot string, though lack any significant gain in velocity and I'm not entirely sure why

That's a very valid point, and you're right. This wasn't meant to be the same hole test. See it more as a "how many shots can 1 cinderblock take before it becomes compromised" test. I waited to regain sight picture but was not holding for groups when squeezing off, as that is what I figured would be the most closely related to a real world scenario. I personally would not be worried about putting a round in the same hole, but instead as controlled as possible given the situation, put rounds on target. This is only one sample of this specific ammo. You can judge for yourself what you take is better for your own personal needs. Thank you

@ThomasJay723 Yes, sir. Air rifles in .510 really deserves more attention than given (and PA should update laws to include big bore airguns for deer). I did a test at 100 yds with hollow point slugs and saw some serious expansion.

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@@raysbudgetslowmo im in Pennsylvania I agree

@@raysbudgetslowmo I use 550 grain on fish tanks , watermelons , pumpkins. .510 is the caliber I love to film with . Just ordered some 388 grain too. #6 shotshell fits in the .510 too. But I agree with the deer’s for sure

@basshunter428 The 99 is a beautiful piece of lever rifle. I've had some experience with Remington's Core Lokt bullet and seen the work they put out, but my rifle just didn't like them. And I 100% agree that shot placement is the most crucial part of a bullets effectiveness. The new polymer tipped controlled expansion bullets show magnitudes of greater energy dump but also a potential failure point when jacket separation happens and the core explodes like a grenade. Turning a medium game bullet into a varmint bullet. Soft lead was used for 100+ years and is still just as effective now as it was then.

@@raysbudgetslowmo I couldn't agree more! All that "controlled expansion" mumbo jumbo is lost on me because I have hunted long enough to know that if you smack'em with a Core Lokt, Power Shok, Power Point, or any good quality cup & core bullet of adequate caliber and weight in the "boiler room" they're go they're gonna drop right into your freezer just like thousands have for well over 100 years! All the new stuff is just trying to reinvent the wheel. Yes, I'm sure there is some merit to the claims, but not enough to justify over double the price if you can even find the stuff. If I spend for premium ammo it will be Swift A Frame or Nosler Partition. But I won't be hunting Grizzly or Polar bears any time soon, so..... 😄

The model 1100 is a beautiful shotgun. Classic wood finish and dual beads. Shotgun slugs are a lot more accurate than what most people believe/give credit for. It's just learning how to shoot them accurate. Minute of gopher with just a front bead sight at 50yds isn't too bad.

I did have to google it because I had no idea. What I found is either "Tee-shawsh" similar to what you said, or "Ti-sash". Though I still let Tis-ass slip through and it gives me a chuckle.

Thank you to all over at Umarex. The amount of engineering that went into creating the Hammer is incredible. As an early adopter of the Hammer in '21, I'm sure in the future there we be even more innovation into the hammer. Maybe something along the lines of "sledgehammer" will be next.

Yep, had the same result on whitetails .

Sounds like a varmint grenade.

That was my feeling with these in the 150gr weight class for 30-06 and 308 win. They are designed in a way that they're almost too efficient at expansion and behave like a varmit bullet, especially when connecting with whitetail shoulder bone. Although I would have thought that after 200 yards out, velocity would have decreased enough to hold together for you, I guess not. Maybe in something a lot slower like a box mag 30-30.

@@raysbudgetslowmo After witnessing what I did, I'll ONLY use them to fireform brass or practice since they are on the cheaper end and you can buy 2nds even cheaper. That SST bullet did what I heard all the nightmare stories about Nosler ballistic tips which have done nothing but perform flawlessly for me since 1990

@derekmcmurry4263 Can not blame you. I don't have any personal experience with the Nosler ballistic tips, only the SST's. I'll have to start looking into them. I keep the SST's around since they can be cheaper than standard ball FMJs, and they don't take chunks out of the gongs.

Thank you. She's a big girl, alright. And an air hog at that too. Fairly accurate at around 2" groups at 100yds. I don't know why PA hasn't legalized a season for hunting with these when you can legally take a .357 mag into the field for deer.

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Thank you. If you have anything that you would like to see tested and if I can get my hands on it, I'll dedicate a day to test it out. I love external ballistics.

I have read about doing this on an old GTA post in my early airguning years, and many did agree with the practice. Though they were looking at .22 and .177 cal. I used a black powder 50/50 lube on these .51 slugs. It's certainly not the best choice in hindsight, considering BP operates at 15 to 30k psi while I'm limited to only 3k. Airgun specific lube would probably have helped. Although I did not see a loss in accuracy, just a POI change and a gummy barrel from all the unburned lube. Though cleaning was much faster with zero lead flakes in the rifling.

Yeah, I blab too much and even make fun of myself for doing it. But youtube has skipping for a reason so that way the people can jump to what they want to see instead of hearing my annoying voice 😃

Thank you. Any time I can do it, I will do it, to inform both others and myself about new things. Though it might now be as polished as other channels.

Yeah, this was an eye opener as I personally do carry a compact to reduce printing. I've heard about failure to expand but most of those stories came from people using hollowpoints in late 80's to early 90's. I don't really see people wearing denim vests anymore, but in PA a lot of people wear jeans year long and "heavy" coats for 4+ months out of the year. My guess is that the added velocity helps start initial expansion as the bullets still had denim strands in between the pedals. Maybe lighter/faster will work better in compacts?

@@raysbudgetslowmo are you in Pa.? I'm from Baltimore but I just moved to Pa. I'm in York.

Yes I am. About 45 minutes outside of Pittsburgh. Your close to Gettysburg, lots of fun to be had there during the summer season

@@raysbudgetslowmo yes I am. I ride my bike there on bike week. And I'm into history especially Army history because I served in Army so I like to go there anyways.

@JimD410 It's a beautiful place. My last time there I ate at General Pickett's buffet and 100% feel I got my money's worth from the food. Couldn't walk around too fast afterwards though.

Don't worry, I stopped off at my local store yesterday and saw that prices seem to vary month by month. Even at $30 they are still within the "standard" defensive pricing range. And they work just as well if not better than a lot of the quote "premium" expanding ammo

@@raysbudgetslowmo true indeed. They don’t disappoint. I’ve also noticed a lot of ppl say the same. I forgot what the red tips are called but they were supposedly around the same price

@kendtchileninjah5905 I believe those are called "Ready" or "USA Ready". I've seen them a couple of times but Hornady critical defense takes most of the shelf priority in the polymer tipped category. Never personally tried either so I can't say anything yet about them.

Damn someone noticed my shakiness. I actually do use a tripod, but I pick it up during the overview/review parts as I get a little excited and want to move the camera closer, thinking it acts the same as eyes. Next time, I'll try to just leave it be.

I did just order a sizing so I can powder coat them. What kind of powder coat are you using by chance? I've read/watched a little into the process, and powder selection and application vary. I'll try to test with as many applicable variables for you as possible.

I use Eastwood ford blue and squirrel grey, I would check out Elvis ammo on here, he has a ton of vids on powder coating cast boolits, though ther are ton of vids from other guys he goes way deep

Ok. I watch a little bit of him and Fortune cookie in my spare time when I feel getting expermental. The only powder I have on hand right now HF white and black. I've been able to get white to coat nicely, around 2 thou on a single coat. but black has always needed multiple passes the achieve the same thickness

The hammer does use a TON of air. Off of the 500cc bottle, I've found you get 2 shots equal with the third being slow. First shot @4,500psi, second @3.6k psi, and the third @2.9k psi. This is a 6.8L 4,500psi tank, though I rarely fill above 4,200psi. It just takes way too long to make up the last couple hundred pounds when I want to start shooting. I believe the loss in speed is simply that the air doesn't get hot enough or create enough pressure to fully burn up the lube im using. And instead the lube is only adding to the bore contact creating more friction than what it is capable of reducing. I can do a future retest or make a shot count string with the same slug weight to find exactly how many shots per tank fill. I'm about 99% certain it's over 10, probably closer to 14, with a full bottle. It's nice enough today I'll try to do that now.

Interesting. I did know the H&N slugs are pre lubed, though what I could find said it was excess lube from maching that gets left on. It doesn't seem to negatively impact performance. I don't really have much experience with small bore air gun slugs in general though. Only my BT 65 in .177 needs them. My .17 and .22 maurader work great with really cheap pellets. And my .25 gauntlet is a little too expensive to consider switching to slugs when I'm in an area that allows me to use 22lr freely for a similar price per shot. Although that might just be me getting jealous at those guys with the M3 builds slapping 100+ fpe slug guns that destroy what I'm capable of with a 22lr and they make it look so easy too

Thanks for sharing. Lee Alox comes to mind...