Ignore the babble at the beginning, and enjoy me struggling! I've since gotten much better at these riffs, you're seeing really the first few hours of me learning this track. It's really hard!
Dean have you ever considered that the way you hold your pick might be holding you back? I'm sure you've heard of BERNTH, I learned his method of holding a pick (i used to hold it like you do) and it made a huge difference in terms of speed and control. just a thought, obviously your method works well enough for archspire but changing your grip might be just the thing you need to push your playing to the next level. I played for 15+ years using the same grip as you and was able to change it within the span of a week so I don't think you'd have much trouble shaking muscle memory even if you end up not liking it.
I saw them live with Neuraxis at the Pound SF in the early 2000s… I got backstage and got to talk to him and drink a pabst blue ribbon with him, he’s a short guy too, really chill… I also saw Decapitated there, dew scented, and Vader
@@user-uk9er5vw4c for sure but I still think it's pretty rare you get someone doing mech eng at a level enough to get employed by a major German auto manufacturer and that good at guitar/song writing/vocals to create one of the most iconic tech death albums ever. I'm doing electrical eng at the moment and I really struggle to make time for music, let alone write, record and release some of the best metal music in that period. I have no idea how he did it. Must just be a genius or something.
And it's only half of the guitar part! All the songs are composed for two guitars, each doing very different things...it's absolutely insane. I've got Muhammed's tab book and trying to follow the riffs is like trying to decipher an alien language. So it's amazing to me how memorable and hummable those cryptic riffs are, which I can't say for the vast majority of tech death. Archspire is one of the few that can do that, albeit not really in the Necrophagist style. Deadborn from Germany pretty much nailed the Necrophagist style (vocals and all) on their first couple of albums.
@@roach5606 Thanks! At first I listened to their first album and thought "huh??? not even close!", but then tried their second/final album and was like "ohhh, yep, there it is!" Haha. Just wish the vocalist wouldn't have used the annoying deathcore-ish screamo style sometimes. And they add a lot of other influences, more than Deadborn did, like some black metal riffing, comical keyboards / video game theme stuff, etc. I still feel like early Deadborn is the most similar to Necrophagist, but FYAD is pretty neat too. 🤘
@@metal_ernest i've been getting into Origin lately and they're very hit or miss, but when they hit they've got that hummable tech death going on where it's both "what the hell is going on" and "i know exactly how to head bang to this"
Thanks Dean, I love this type video. It takes me back to the "Dean Attempts to learn" videos : ) It would be cool to see more, especially something that you came into cold.
I'm nowhere near the technical level you are so I am amazed by the things you do. I've never learned a whole song all the way through. I've been content to play riffs over and over and just make up my own songs and play them (so I guess technically, I know those whole songs LOL). Part of the reason I've never learned a whole song is that I'll get stuck on a part that seems impossible and let the frustration win. Seeing you similarly struggle but push through really motivates me. Thanks bud. Stay Tech.
Identifying the riffs/areas you struggle with for a specific song should show you the exact areas/techniques you need to learn or practice more on to improve! When the frustration hits, I always just take a break and come back to that one section the next day (even if it's a single measure) and go over it over, and over, and over again until it finally comes through! I've found often for stuff like that, usually a section may seem especially difficult because there's a technique that makes it easier you haven't learned and aren't using.
@@thebayconator97 I see, I want to learn a Necrophagist song yet I'm intimidated by speed and sweeps, I'm not scared of dense patterns because I've been playing stuff like mathcore and math rock for a year and helped me to get a certain technique yet I feel I'm lacking of experience in tech death and I barely can play death metal. In the near future I want to start with Culinary Hyperversity because I really want to start playing Necrophagist but I barely have 2 years playing so I'm giving time while I improve
@@umu5037 it's definitely intimidating at first lmao I've been playing for over 10 years and it still gives me trouble. I'd encourage you to dive right in! take a shot at culinary hyperversity and see where you're at, just start super slow. very often I recommend beginners to learn stuff from later Death like flesh and the power it holds or flattening of emotions because the speed is much more manageable. best of luck, have fun!
@@debotoxgod6878 no, the first album released in 1999 was called onset of putrefaction, the second album in 2004 was called Epitaph and there is a song on the album called Epitaph
@@longshanks5531 I think Epitaph had a much greater impact on modern technical death metal than Onset did. Still a great album but Epitaph really set the standard for modern neo-classical influenced tech death.
I got to talk to Muhammad during the summer slaughter tour. Super nice dude. He told me "the new album will make Epitaph seem like kindergarten metal." I pray he will release it someday. I still believe!
@@deadiwtd1858 I'd do anything to hear it. It seems from when someone ran into him a few years ago that his main trepidation regarding releasing the 3rd album is that he doesn't want to tour anymore or be in a band, so hopefully he may realise that fans would be beyond overjoyed with just the 3rd album uploaded online without the band reforming at all or doing any shows.
I saw them live at summer slaughter tour too when they were headlining i wanna say in like 07-08.. im so glad i got to see them live just in case Muhammed never releases another album 🙏🏾
@ipwnIRLyah Christian wrote about half the leads, some bass riffs and only first half of SIT riffs. Muhammed wrote all the riffs and songs plus the drum parts note by note confirmed by Hannes' recent interview
Every few years or so I revisit Necrophagist, and holy fuck that shit is hard. The string skip alternate picked part at 8:40 is the kind of thing I can't pick with strict alternate picking, but have no issues with up-stroke on the low string.
Freakin wonderful band and job by you Dean!I would enjoy it to see you try the most hysteric, complex, technical and interesting riffs by Converge and Dillinger Escape Plan!
I haven't wanted to hit you up for the student thing, but the beginning raises a good question. You said "I spent a morning," and "I spent an afternoon." While I know that there's not really a hard set practice time, what on average does a morning/afternoon of practice/learning look like for you? An hour? 4? thanks for the video Dean! I've missed this format!
A session is 2 hours max. Definitely depending on the topic, but I won’t push myself to cram more than 2 hours of learning in one session, otherwise I’ll get diminishing returns. These Epitaph learning sessions were probably 1.5 hrs each. The song is surprisingly simple, in terms of how many unique sections there are, I was surprised.
Dude this song has been a lifelong struggle. Sit down to it for a few days, take a few weeks off. Lather, rinse, and repeat. Can play it through, as long as I play it through in 20 different sections.
Thanks Dean, this is such a fun cover. The composition and performance was topnotch on Epitaph. The music is sick, delicate and even mathematical at times! Anyways I categorize Archspire as one of the pillars of TDM beside the mighty Necrophagist!
I'd love to see a follow up to this. Cos it's such an awesome song. You did great. You can tell this man loves dark souls game. Only plays the most challenging. It's insane to me that the singer not only does the vocals but plays that shit on guitar aswell. Not to mention he does half of the solos.
This is so fucking good, Dean. Like, this is beautiful content as both a musician and someone who loves Necrophagist. My brain can't even visualize the finger positions of some of these chord structures. I'll stay back here with my "working on ...And Justice For All chops". 😅
Hey Dean thanks for posting this, great idea on releasing formerly members only vids!! \m/ Have you ever learned Born by Nevermore? If not that would be a sick video!!
Hellyes!!! Such a good song. Question- why don't you have a 6 string for stuff like this? Would give your hand a break and probably be easier to play just in context.
Dude i got un-subbed by youtube. Thats weird. I like your channel you help other players get better which is cool. This is an awesome band. Necrophagist is crazy good at guitar. I can only play more simple riffs myself. Like more chug heavy riffs with bar and power chords. Which i think still can sound very cool. But this band is way above most peoples skill level. Very cool video. Im a visual learner also, i like to see people play with their hands and try to copy there hand movements. I dislike tabs for this reason.
empowering for all guitarist to learn and not fear mistake and not be perfect, awesome complicated riff with weird note time position are great they take forever to get bored with check my free crap metal music and feel great about yours lol
![Necrophagist - Extreme Unction (Live) [HQ]](/img/n.gif)
Ignore the babble at the beginning, and enjoy me struggling! I've since gotten much better at these riffs, you're seeing really the first few hours of me learning this track. It's really hard!
I'm not a member though.
@@auto1nfanticid3 no one is no more
delicious
thank you for doing these dude, gets the inspiration going
Dean have you ever considered that the way you hold your pick might be holding you back? I'm sure you've heard of BERNTH, I learned his method of holding a pick (i used to hold it like you do) and it made a huge difference in terms of speed and control. just a thought, obviously your method works well enough for archspire but changing your grip might be just the thing you need to push your playing to the next level. I played for 15+ years using the same grip as you and was able to change it within the span of a week so I don't think you'd have much trouble shaking muscle memory even if you end up not liking it.
The fact that Muhammed wrote all this, and does vocals while playing it is mind blowing.
And he's a mechanical engineer. Dude must be extremely hard working.
I saw them live with Neuraxis at the Pound SF in the early 2000s…
I got backstage and got to talk to him and drink a pabst blue ribbon with him, he’s a short guy too, really chill… I also saw Decapitated there, dew scented, and Vader
@@dorsia6938 everyone in tech death metal is a nerd
@@user-uk9er5vw4c for sure but I still think it's pretty rare you get someone doing mech eng at a level enough to get employed by a major German auto manufacturer and that good at guitar/song writing/vocals to create one of the most iconic tech death albums ever. I'm doing electrical eng at the moment and I really struggle to make time for music, let alone write, record and release some of the best metal music in that period. I have no idea how he did it. Must just be a genius or something.
He was pretty young when he wrote all of it too. Super crazy
Hearing these riffs slow and hearing all these little details and intricacies just shows how far ahead Necrophagist were and still are
And it's only half of the guitar part! All the songs are composed for two guitars, each doing very different things...it's absolutely insane. I've got Muhammed's tab book and trying to follow the riffs is like trying to decipher an alien language. So it's amazing to me how memorable and hummable those cryptic riffs are, which I can't say for the vast majority of tech death. Archspire is one of the few that can do that, albeit not really in the Necrophagist style. Deadborn from Germany pretty much nailed the Necrophagist style (vocals and all) on their first couple of albums.
@@metal_ernestcheck out the band "Fuck you and Die" they've gotten the closest to the necrophagist sound imo
@@metal_ernest +++ Its a symphony! only for earphones =)
@@roach5606 Thanks! At first I listened to their first album and thought "huh??? not even close!", but then tried their second/final album and was like "ohhh, yep, there it is!" Haha. Just wish the vocalist wouldn't have used the annoying deathcore-ish screamo style sometimes. And they add a lot of other influences, more than Deadborn did, like some black metal riffing, comical keyboards / video game theme stuff, etc. I still feel like early Deadborn is the most similar to Necrophagist, but FYAD is pretty neat too. 🤘
@@metal_ernest i've been getting into Origin lately and they're very hit or miss, but when they hit they've got that hummable tech death going on where it's both "what the hell is going on" and "i know exactly how to head bang to this"
Learning Necrophagist you feel so good about learning a tricky measure/riff....and then it never happens again the rest of the song
So true lol
"alright cool, I've got 0.03% of the song DOWN!"
relatable 😂 @@ryanh1892
i can't imagine how hard it was for the guy who covered this song in clarinet! (both parts plus solos!)
Haha that dude rulz
My friends hate when I pull up that song. Lol
Thanks Dean, I love this type video. It takes me back to the "Dean Attempts to learn" videos : ) It would be cool to see more, especially something that you came into cold.
Dean attempts to learn : Polyphia
Necrophagist riffs sound so heavy hitting with just 50% speed, that puts the stuff in a completely different atmosphere.
I don't think Archspire has ever included a cover on an album, a Necrophagist cover would be amazing on the next album.
that would be sick!
Incoming tech9 cover
Be awesome
THIS 🙏🏾
Nope. Covers break the flow and cohesion of the album.
I'm nowhere near the technical level you are so I am amazed by the things you do. I've never learned a whole song all the way through. I've been content to play riffs over and over and just make up my own songs and play them (so I guess technically, I know those whole songs LOL). Part of the reason I've never learned a whole song is that I'll get stuck on a part that seems impossible and let the frustration win. Seeing you similarly struggle but push through really motivates me. Thanks bud. Stay Tech.
Try some death songs, fun to play and not too hard.
This is how i started out too. Eventually you'll get to the point where you can play some easier songs all the way through
Identifying the riffs/areas you struggle with for a specific song should show you the exact areas/techniques you need to learn or practice more on to improve! When the frustration hits, I always just take a break and come back to that one section the next day (even if it's a single measure) and go over it over, and over, and over again until it finally comes through! I've found often for stuff like that, usually a section may seem especially difficult because there's a technique that makes it easier you haven't learned and aren't using.
Necrophagist and I Declare War taught me how to do vocals in middle school I owe these bands my life at this point
I've been learning this one for about 2 weeks and I'm almost done! what a coincidence that you're learning it too. thanks for the content!
Have you been learning the solo too?
@@umu5037 I have! it's a very fun solo to play once you get the sweeps down
@@thebayconator97 I see, I want to learn a Necrophagist song yet I'm intimidated by speed and sweeps, I'm not scared of dense patterns because I've been playing stuff like mathcore and math rock for a year and helped me to get a certain technique yet I feel I'm lacking of experience in tech death and I barely can play death metal.
In the near future I want to start with Culinary Hyperversity because I really want to start playing Necrophagist but I barely have 2 years playing so I'm giving time while I improve
@@umu5037 it's definitely intimidating at first lmao I've been playing for over 10 years and it still gives me trouble. I'd encourage you to dive right in! take a shot at culinary hyperversity and see where you're at, just start super slow. very often I recommend beginners to learn stuff from later Death like flesh and the power it holds or flattening of emotions because the speed is much more manageable. best of luck, have fun!
Its amazing how much that album have shaped tech death
The first album probably more
@@longshanks5531 epitaph is from the first album
@@debotoxgod6878 no, the first album released in 1999 was called onset of putrefaction, the second album in 2004 was called Epitaph and there is a song on the album called Epitaph
@@longshanks5531 I think Epitaph had a much greater impact on modern technical death metal than Onset did. Still a great album but Epitaph really set the standard for modern neo-classical influenced tech death.
Its because epitah he had members playing the instruments onset he did everything himself which is truly more mindblowing
I missed dean attempts to learn! Its how i found your channel when covid started and is how i found archspire :))
One of my all time favorites! I spent many hours practicing this song when I was younger, thanks for sharing your process.
I got to talk to Muhammad during the summer slaughter tour. Super nice dude. He told me "the new album will make Epitaph seem like kindergarten metal." I pray he will release it someday. I still believe!
@@SunBroJohnny hopefully he at least uploads the album one day when the record deal is over.
@@jamieperry3731i hope so, knowing its finished, id like to heard those last few tracks
@@deadiwtd1858 I'd do anything to hear it. It seems from when someone ran into him a few years ago that his main trepidation regarding releasing the 3rd album is that he doesn't want to tour anymore or be in a band, so hopefully he may realise that fans would be beyond overjoyed with just the 3rd album uploaded online without the band reforming at all or doing any shows.
@@jamieperry3731 if he doesent want to tour its fine, id honestly be Happy with just that
I saw them live at summer slaughter tour too when they were headlining i wanna say in like 07-08.. im so glad i got to see them live just in case Muhammed never releases another album 🙏🏾
Muhammed Suiçmez is an amazing guitarist and writer. Thanks for the episode of DATL.
pretty sure Christian Münzner of obscura wrote most of this album
@@ipwnIRLyah Muënzner only wote around half the solo's on Epitaph if I remember well
@ipwnIRLyah Christian wrote about half the leads, some bass riffs and only first half of SIT riffs. Muhammed wrote all the riffs and songs plus the drum parts note by note confirmed by Hannes' recent interview
@@ipwnIRLyahnope Muhammed Suicmez wrote 2 album full and for the epitaph Munzner just only wrote half of the solo
most? lmfao no@@ipwnIRLyah
Covering Necro stuff is always the beautiful mixture of fun and frustration 😂😂
It was written and performed on 25.5 inch scale length guitars, you're correct
I love this, it shows no matter how excellent you are still gotta practice hard to get to where you want to be, good luck man
Every few years or so I revisit Necrophagist, and holy fuck that shit is hard.
The string skip alternate picked part at 8:40 is the kind of thing I can't pick with strict alternate picking, but have no issues with up-stroke on the low string.
I'll double my gas money donations at shows if the band ever busts out a full song cover or two of Necrophagist. All the love!
I just learned you play in Archspire. Sick! Love y’all’s work! Subbed.
wow nice job! there aren't many necrophagist guitar covers on youtube for a reason...
this really slams down how practice makes perfect. videos like this are excellent
Do their live reactions!! It would be nuts!! It always blows my mind how they play live so effortlessly
Yoooo.
I really like the videos with you and Claire.
But I also really like these. Please make more.
I'm so excited to see you guys in Baltimore in 2 months since I missed you last year.
This is such a great video. I love seeing your learning process.
So glad you started doing this again! It helps us a LOT!
Nice to see you learn stuff you want to learn ♡♡
Freakin wonderful band and job by you Dean!I would enjoy it to see you try the most hysteric, complex, technical and interesting riffs by Converge and Dillinger Escape Plan!
Thanks Dean, loved it! I have the official tab book of the Epitaph album but never learned whole songs, only sections. Maybe I'll give this one a try!
I have been waiting for you to cover this one!!! you just made my day dean thank you!
I really enjoyed these videos. Always made me wanna push myself more.
My favorite series!
Whats up Dean! just discovered Archspire a few weeks ago. New favorite band!!! Love the content and really hoping to see you guys in ATL on 4/14!!!
Holy shit! This is how i learn songs too haha thanks for sharing. Now i don't feel insecure with the initial slopiness.
I haven't wanted to hit you up for the student thing, but the beginning raises a good question. You said "I spent a morning," and "I spent an afternoon." While I know that there's not really a hard set practice time, what on average does a morning/afternoon of practice/learning look like for you? An hour? 4? thanks for the video Dean! I've missed this format!
A session is 2 hours max. Definitely depending on the topic, but I won’t push myself to cram more than 2 hours of learning in one session, otherwise I’ll get diminishing returns. These Epitaph learning sessions were probably 1.5 hrs each. The song is surprisingly simple, in terms of how many unique sections there are, I was surprised.
@@DeanLamb thanks bud! Content like this inspires me to practice improvements, so I really appreciate ot
@@DeanLamb Diminishing returns or "Diminished to B"? 🤔
@@DeanLamb Surprisingly simple for Dean = Surprisingly hard for us mortals. lol
I miss seeing these! Btw.. Hats off to how fast you process his riffs!
This makes me happy 😁
As a drummer the strugglebus is real
Always good to see you posting Dean 🤘🤘🤘
You’re a great player.
This was such a fun watch. I love it when you do these videos! Seeing you attempt this reminds me why I have never tackled this song. 🤣
Dean, Would love to see you guys in Minnesota this spring! Waiting to get a date in south Canada in April!
i've been trying to learn this song for 15 years... good luck dean!
You must be disabled if you didnt at the first year lmao
Lol what^
Maybe after 2 or 3 years of everyday practice for a newbie, but one year is insane
Love Love Love Necrophagist. Story telling on guitar
impressive man. i was humming along for the 1000th time. you got it
Would love to see you tackle something like Finite by Origin
hell yeah, laser sweeps are coming!
awesome to watch u grind thru, would love to see some tbdm!
What a monster of a guitar track. Muhammed Suiçmez is out of this world
Every song in album is sick !! Love necrophagist. We want new album suicmez !!
Dude this song has been a lifelong struggle. Sit down to it for a few days, take a few weeks off. Lather, rinse, and repeat. Can play it through, as long as I play it through in 20 different sections.
Muenzner's parts are the hardest imo, it's so impossible to play consistently each time
This was one of the first songs I dedicated to learning to play and sing at the same time when I was 16!
Love this type of content
Papa Dean! Give Archspire a shot, they're quite good, you might be able to play some of their stuff!
Oh Cananda!
Would love to see Gorod's "Bekhten's Curse"
I second this, that would be so fun to see
love this so much man
Thanks Dean, this is such a fun cover. The composition and performance was topnotch on Epitaph. The music is sick, delicate and even mathematical at times! Anyways I categorize Archspire as one of the pillars of TDM beside the mighty Necrophagist!
I'd love to see a follow up to this. Cos it's such an awesome song. You did great. You can tell this man loves dark souls game. Only plays the most challenging. It's insane to me that the singer not only does the vocals but plays that shit on guitar aswell. Not to mention he does half of the solos.
Fromsoftware shredding
I am subbed....however I'm here for the Necro🙏
Bout time you covered this
very cool
This is so fucking good, Dean. Like, this is beautiful content as both a musician and someone who loves Necrophagist. My brain can't even visualize the finger positions of some of these chord structures. I'll stay back here with my "working on ...And Justice For All chops". 😅
Master this and in addition sing with it. Mind blown....
I've never really gotten into tech death. I only listen to Necrophagist and Archspire in this genre I think
Check out the faceless and the zenith passage and Soreption
LIke @Creature1009 said. The Faceless "Planetary Duality" is one of my favorite albums of all time.
Necro is the GOAT
Would love an episode like this with frantic disembowlment
you learned in an hour what took me two days. fucking savage
2:05 when the click happened for every four beats i was like... theres no way a human does that to themselves
"How do they play this live?" Exactly what everyone says about Archspire, lol.
I actually heard from a good source the new Necro album would drop when the new Tool album comes out. Catch y'all in 2031.
Hey Dean thanks for posting this, great idea on releasing formerly members only vids!! \m/ Have you ever learned Born by Nevermore? If not that would be a sick video!!
Hellyes!!! Such a good song. Question- why don't you have a 6 string for stuff like this? Would give your hand a break and probably be easier to play just in context.
hell yea
Watching someone so good a guitar learning and seeing the struggles is encouraging. P.s. thoughts on epiphone mkh origins 7?
Does that axe have gold sparkle? Awesome!
Howdy-ho 11/16 brother
it's takin gme 2 years to play this on my acoustic guitar, still not even close
Dude i got un-subbed by youtube. Thats weird. I like your channel you help other players get better which is cool. This is an awesome band. Necrophagist is crazy good at guitar. I can only play more simple riffs myself. Like more chug heavy riffs with bar and power chords. Which i think still can sound very cool. But this band is way above most peoples skill level. Very cool video. Im a visual learner also, i like to see people play with their hands and try to copy there hand movements. I dislike tabs for this reason.
It’s bald bob ross teaching us that happy little accidents are a part of the process.
There’s an official tab book that’s free btw
I’m thinking of getting Guitar Pro mostly just for learning tabs. Are the files for this type of song eh hrm…. Easy to find?
Dean, do you like Nile? Would be SICK to see you try and learn one of their more technical tracks! Papyrus is fast and also only 2-3 minutes long :)
They made 2 albums and set the standard for technical death metal and dipped 😂
Would your band have any interest in playing a Necrophagist cover live? Or do any covers at all?
This album was written by robots. It is too technically perfect to have been written by humans.
When you get the new guitar? I like that head stock
You're brave man, I'm afraid to even look at the tabs
Band suggestion for Dean attempts to learn, Martyr. Anything from Warp Zone or Feeding the Abscess.
Wish them and Spawn of Possession reunite to tour
WHOAAA
empowering for all guitarist to learn and not fear mistake and not be perfect, awesome
complicated riff with weird note time position are great they take forever to get bored with
check my free crap metal music and feel great about yours lol
You should do a playthrough of Seven Crowns and the Oblivion Chain????
Where's the Epitaph cover video you mention in the video description?
I miss necrophagist almost as much as i miss deans live streams...
Closest band/musician to necrophagist that’s still playing is David Davidson/Revocation. Legend.
That red guitar in the background looks sick. Is it a custom? What's the make ?
It's cool to see you using the old axe. Is that home for you? You taking that on tour? I imagine you would have to, just incase.
Nah that one stays at home. I have two brand new builds for 2023 touring :)