I'm terminally ill and often get a bit depressed. When that happens,I find one of your videos to watch. In no time at all, I find myself laughing at one of your hilarious comments. Thank you Dr. Grande! What would I do without your sense of humour.
There are a lot of terminally ill people diagnosed 20 years ago. It happened to my aunt, she lived into her 90s. so you just keep going. Hope you feel and do well.
My cat went missing when I was like 19 and I was a freaking wreck. I would drive around sobbing for hours, hanging up posters. So I cannot even fathom my child or a loved one going missing. My heart aches for them and I hope they get answers.
@@ladygrey5219 that is what is known as a joke. Clearly "ransom" was never mentioned but is being used here as a reason for the cat going missing. This could be considered "dark humour"
Some of these disappearances are astounding. Not like they’re happening in the wilds of Alaska or deep in the Amazon. Just poof, gone after a seemingly normal college kid evening. In a relatively small and populated area. Just… gone. So little evidence or answers (almost none) has to be excruciating for loved ones. Great as always, Dr. G
I know. The poor families must be devastated, and I can only imagine what it must be to lose your child like that. I think of my own boys and I know, that would come close to killing me if one vanished like that.
The US is huge. People have disappeared in urban areas after having a single car accident late at night when their car ends up down an embankment in thick brush. Millions of drivers pass by, but the area has no foot traffic. Eventually, years later, CalTrans or PG&E discovers the wreck doing maintenance. People drive into canals.
its serial killers - we have all heard about how many are operating. and its probably underestimated! covering up abuse/ scandal is the RCC's speciality - so Hoover might be the only one on the right track - sucks that hoover is caught in a vacuum...
I cant forget the one lady, who fell from her attic inside her wall. That mustve been the loneliest she ever felt, in a bustling city full of people around her. It was thought she fell in trying to save her cat, in this claustrophobic small space, with no way to even turn around. The next tenants found her bones, they had lived months with her body. Sometimes you can go missing and still remain so close.
That is so, so often the case. A lot of young women find "bad boys" incredibly exiting, and live long enough to find out that bad boys are just really bad people. It's the same way the other way around, too. Horrible people come in all genders and colors imaginable, and we need to keep our eyes peeled at all times. It's a sad and intim fact of our lives now...
Hi Dr. Grande. It seems to me he didn't want to talk about it, he just turned his pretty head & walked away. Isn't that a song from a rock group in the seventies? I hope they eventually solve this case, peace 🙂😍😀😎😇☕🍩☕✌👍& hugs, 👄💋🖤💜❣ Janine Smiley
@@Kari.F. The past was far more dangerous than the current period. Rates of violence have been declining for decades. Check out the book "The Better Angels of Our Nature", by Dr Steven Pinker. He presents all of the statistics.
@@PhillyAnthonyD Pinker is a genius. My take on this story : it does not bother me that he had multi-flavored pr0n on his computer. It was still early days for that on the internet, and people were experimenting. The chat room stuff is a problem for me. He got exposed there, and they came and got him.
I knew Hoover back in the day. He was a good investigative dog but once he had a taste of those artisanal dog biscuits, he spiraled downward into a life of addiction. Losing his investigating job was hard on the old boy and he really began an even more severe dependency to Beggin Strips. I hope Hoover gets the help he needs so he can get clean and put his sniffer to use once again.
It was more than just Beggin' Strips. He became addicted to something so kinky... so shameful he would have done anything to protect the secret. Cat-nip. I think what got to him the most was all the cat calls at the dog park. And nobody would sniff his but.
I live about 50 miles from there, over the years there has be ALOT of college aged kids that have disappeared, and a lot of other kids are found in water. I have had a couple of friends who went to that college and I went there a couple of times, its creepy.
@@eadweard. I'd have to go back and count but I'm sure you could look it up if you really wanted to know. There's a few colleges in that area and St Cloud State is one of those that is considered a "party college " and that town is pretty crazy even on a good night
Yeah, in all honesty, I don't entirely agree with Dr. Grande’s analysis of this case. Well, part of it, at least. I believe that the drowning theory is the most likely one, partially due to what you pointed out, which is that college-aged individuals drowning in lakes due to intoxication has happened many times before. That's only part of my reasoning, though.
I think we need to check into Hoover's whereabouts on the night in question. Does he have a solid alibi? The whole "I tracked him going towards the lake" thing could be a ruse to misdirect.
OMG I went to St. Benedicts and my husband went to St. John’s. My husband (now ex-husband) told me of the many homosexual advances and intrigues of the monks on campus. It was the fabric of the campus especially in the dormitories. If anything nefarious happened look at the monks!
I’ve always thought his death could be related to meeting up with a gay guy. Or, maybe he was embarrassed to tell his family and friends that he was gay. And possibly committed suicide. A very sad story. 💔
@@cht2162 Except the OC just gave you testimony of a first hand account of living there.? ... And, to say, 'questioning one's sexual identity is a universal task...', is, well, beyond ridiculous, isn't it. So, no point in exposing it's lack of value.
Yep. I’m his same age and friends with a connected case where the young man ended up murdered a week before. PIs found that Josh was investigating the monks at the Abbey for SA of vulnerable students… just look into it. There are many cases of monks SA these 18-20 year old guys. Josh was investigating it and catfishing them to get proof is what I’ve been told by friends who went to college with Josh. He wanted to blow the whistle and there was some kind of a threat, stalking or a break in of his dorm shortly before he went missing if I remember correctly. Dr Grande didn’t mention that the college got a restraining order against Joshes father and family for bringing search dogs and PIs to campus to conduct searches. The Abbey wouldn’t let police or search dogs come in without a warrant (which was obtained a lot later and searched). There’s a lot more there
I listened to the Simply Vanished podcast. It is a brilliant podcast about that case if you want to learn more I recommended. I hope they find him. So sorry for his family.
@@JackieGladney Wow! A lot of that information was not in the Unsolved Mysteries episode. Example: Josh catfishing the monks, or that his room was broken into or whatever happened, or the fact his father has a restraining order from the school. Crazy! I feel like that's so important and should've been in the show.
I’ve vaguely heard about this story some years ago. It’s quite eerie how some people disappear like this. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande, have a great day!
Lol, quite eerie is a huge understatement. It's literally one of the most terrifying and devastating things that can happen to someone and their family...
Todd Grande's Mantra in life : 1. Don't diagnose, only speculate. 2. Have a good sense of humour. 3. Do not smile/laugh in front of camera, no matter what.
There have been many college students who drove to "meet" someone they met online, only to be murdered once they got there. Happened in Texas to an A&M student, who drove for the meeting & was murdered.
The bloodhound search was almost 2 months after the disappearance, I wonder at that bloodhound's success rate after 7 weeks. Dr. G says a police dog tracked Joshua, I wonder how long after the disappearance.
@@joemcmillan2089 it was not police dog, it was a dog, that family brought out. But bloodhound must be at least lead to the most likely place of someone's step. Police detectives stayed so jealous and didn't like, that someone but not them uses dogs, means doing self investigation, by doing this action, intruding in their work in such a manner to find a trace, that they can not find, their team didn't want to seem weak among others.
In the spring I was involved in a search for a missing man that was distraught. His vehicle was found near a semi-desert wilderness area with a lot of scrub brush. The PD had searched the most likely area with a ground team, several cadaver dogs and a drone and found nothing. The family was interested in a search of an adjacent area and that was the area I was involved in and we found no trace. Later the Sheriff brought in another dog and searched with no success. A few months later, person walking their dog found the man’s body under brush in an area that had been searched. He had taken his own life and made efforts to conceal himself. I never received details on the exact location. My take on search dogs is until these search dogs can speak English, I’m not inclined to trust them. That is unless they show me where the body is located.
The minute I heard he had left his wallet, contacts, glasses, coat and belt I think it was at his apartment it rubbed me the wrong way. My son is that age. There is no way they are going out without at least some combination of those items. Which led me to question did he actually return home? Did he actually return home with Nick? And something actually happened after. There was two hours between when Nick's keycard was used and when campus was alerted. I find it odd at that age you would contact campus if your friend wasnt home two hours after you. I would assume they hooked up with someone and are sleeping at their place. If he apparently was at a party and didnt come home naturally one would think he met a girl and will be back in the morning. I think reporting it at 4:20am was odd. Sometimes kids go for food after parties, pass out at parties etc so I dont know why you would panic yet. The Nick gentlemen seemed nice and genuine but I still find that odd. I would like to see a timeline list of everyone who came in with a keycard during that time. Did he actually go back to his room. Contacts and glasses are there so I'm curious his prescription. How far could he see and after a few drinks without glasses how much worse would his vision have been? I feel there are many unanswered questions.
They had to badge in to get into their apartments. Josh did not badge back in after leaving at 11:06, which is why it is assumed he did NOT come back home. However, it's not unusual for doors to be propped open etc so you never know. The intriguing thing for me is that someone was at Josh's computer listening to music and manually skipping songs between 11:52 PM and 12:32 AM. Is it possible Josh did make it back and then left again at 12:30? Was one of his roommates using his computer? We know Nick wasn't there, but he had other roommates as well. They reported him missing the following day at 4:20 PM not AM after he missed a meeting and a mock trial practice (which was not like him). I think they assumed earlier in the day he just stayed somewhere else after the party and realized it was serious later when he didn't show up for his comittments.
Sounds like an open and shut case to me: he drowned and authorities were never able to find the body. The fact that the authorities are convinced he is not in there does not mean he is not; we've seen this scenario before and someone else finds the body after the police did a "thorough" search.
Can you analyze the 1984 cold case of Kelly Disney from Lincoln County Oregon! I worked out there for the Sheriff's Office for almost a decade working in the jail '12 to '21 including as a criminal investigator within the jail. It's one of the cases that the cold case detectives are still working & it still haunts the County almost 4 decades later...
@@mariagabrielle6383 completely unrelated, the family still lives in the area. I have my views on who might have done it from what little I know of the case but from working around some of the worst, there's no shortage of possibilities. Edit: I mean the criminal element, I wasn't inferring anything else but then again this case has it all.
@@NvrDieNvrSurrender Wasn’t she briefly suspected to be one of the Ghosts of Highway 20? I think I read something about her case, if I recall correctly, it must have been a couple of years ago. I had stumbled upon a brilliant Documentary about the PoS serial killer J.A. Ackroyd, and out of curiosity I read about other unsolved cases that could have been related to him. Please correct me if I’m wrong, my memory isn’t as sharp as it used to be, but as I recall it; she did disappear from Highway 20 while walking there late in the evening or at night, but detectives had reason to suspect that she had been picked up by "friends", who sexually assaulted, murdered her, and left her body in the woods, or something like that - but not enough evidence to charge anyone!?
@@gorillaguerillaDK I initially thought the same and I think they even thought Green River Gary but I think they alibi out, I'm not sure. The deputy that was the last to see her that night too is someone who passed away some years ago but I don't know if they really ever got all the info about their interactions that night... And yes, she disappeared off Highway 20 which was the stomping grounds from that serial killer Ghosts of Highway 20 (amazing documentary) but that part of Highway 20 is what connects the town of Newport to Toledo so it's well traveled to be honest though back then it might have been a little less traffic, it's still near two different city limits.
@@NvrDieNvrSurrender It wouldn't be the first time a LEO was the last one to interact with a young woman who suddenly disappeared right after - and it wouldn't be the first time a LEO wasn't suspected of any wrongdoings until much later. But just because it has happened elsewhere of course doesn't mean it happened there as well, a d haven't they investigated where he went after the interaction? Wasn't there something about someone who had said they had witnessed what happened, but had been too afraid to step in and too afraid to say anything? Did you hear any stories about what happened while you worked?
I dislike Lance Armstrong. Why in earth would you literally keep the last name "ARM-strong" and then ride bikes? It's like in the American revolution. "Thomas PAINE!!" and you choose to write a friggin book? Bruh should've been a general. "Thomas Paine's gonna BRING ON THE PAIN!!!" friggin people ruining awesome names.
If he was using female profiles to meet men, it's not hard to imagine one of those men becoming enraged when Joshua showed up to their date instead of a woman. (No judgment - it would've been very difficult for Joshua to be openly bisexual in his situation.) I have to wonder how well the police looked over his Yahoo Personals contacts.
@@adachikae He may have been doing that as a way to get nudes from men. There were nude pictures of both men and women found on his computer. It doesn't necessarily mean he was meeting men under the pretense that he was a woman
Originally the police did not look super into it. In 2008 they were able to recover the files that were "wiped" and just NOW released a series of photos of men that were having conversations with Josh via Yahoo, They released in the hopes people could identify the mean for police to track down and have conversations with (not that they are suspects per se but to get more leads)
What a tragic case! Your comments in your final thoughts were incredible- everybody should hear those words! Also loved your story about the dog, Hoover! 😂🐕
I've met two people in my life that I've known for years. Both of these individuals was complete success stories from the time they was literally like 16. The dreams they set as teenagers was eventually accomplished by the time they was in their late twenties. Both individuals at different periods of time just randomly snapped, I mean just a complete breakdown mentally and physically. Both individuals never drank never use drugs never committed crimes, and one day it was like someone turned on a light switch in both. Neither one of them knew each other and it didn't happen at the same time I'm just saying I know two people who's just seem to snap out of nowhere. And completely ruin their lives and destroy them in a matter of a year. Me and my friends often talk about it and say what the hell you think happened. Because after a few years it was like they came back to reality. Completely lost everything and everyone around them but came back to reality. So I am convinced sometimes people just lose it
"he was eager to get back to school” Hey. I resemble that remark. I was the jerk grad student who suggested that our team meet over Thanksgiving break because that was a lot of free time - we might as well get some work done.
I was the one that enjoyed life, went to all the campus parties, and off campus parties, slept the entire week of thanksgiving break, was never in a sorority because I was a GDI, graduated, and still got a great job with a higher than average salary. I guess I was the average student taking advantage of living 5 hours away from mom and dad.
Reasons to refuse a polygraph: 1. If you pass the test the police won’t eliminate you as a suspect. If they don’t trust their own test why should you? 2. If you mistakenly fail the test now you become a suspect. This may distract the police from putting their energy into finding the real culprit. Worse, it may prejudice their investigation and cause them to manufacture evidence against you. They may do this consciously or subconsciously. 3. Why create evidence which may be used against you? Passing the test will have little value to you in a defense in court. There’s no benefit to you. 4. A significant minority of the population will fail these tests even if telling the truth. You may be one of these people. You don’t know if you are one of these people. Why take that risk? These tests should be outlawed in criminal investigations.
I had never heard of this case and it breaks my heart. I want to say RIP Joshua, but that's not possible. Missing people are definitely the most tragic. I hope his family finds answers, or at least some peace.
This is my first time hearing of this and Collegeville is only like 10miles from my appartment. It's in a large beautiful forest that I could see a person's body being hidden out there and nobody ever finding it.
They did but it had been wiped by the time they got it. The big mistake was not locking off Josh's room/computer in the first place which allowed for someone to wipe it. Eventually in 2008 they were able to recover most of the items on the hard drive (once better tech came out) but of course by then it's much harder to solve the case after so much time
Thanks again for your analysis of the mysterious disappearance of Josh Guimond, Dr. Grande. My concern is that, if he was going out to meet someone on that cold night, why didn't he take a coat with him? There is also the question as to why the police disregarded the findings of the bloodhound, which suggests that the police might have known something that they chose not to share with the public. And really, how accurate could the police searching the lakes for Josh's body be when conducted months later? His body might have been washed up on the shore and been eaten by wild animals and the remaining bones being dispersed by the animals in the intervening months. Of course, the murder theory is the most plausible, with Josh meeting someone in a vehicle on the bridge, where the police dog traced him to but had no further scent of him after that point. Another possibility is that his roommate was waiting for him in his car on the bridge and murdered him, although the time he left Josh's ex-girlfriend's party would make this unlikely unless she knowingly provided him with an alibi because he returned to the dorm roughly an hour or so later than it would have taken for him to return from her party. It was supposedly only seven minutes away by car.
@@cht2162 if he was going to do that he could've joined the abbey that literally was a 100 yards away from him on campus. Very doubtful he'd just disappear off the face of the earth
1) The reason why the police dismissed Hoover is due to his training. His handler was a true crime fan that didn't attend any true training or classes but simply self-taught herself and Hoover via watching videos and true crime shows, etc. He wasn't reliable unfortunately 2) The campus was very small, with most walks being less than 5 minutes. Walking on campus without a jacket even when cold isn't implausible especially if you were only planning on going a short distance (which he was with the party). In the case of the potential meetup, walking to the bridge or parking lot from the party also would've been short distance and then he would've been in a presumably heated car. Not unusual for college kids to not have their coat (I didn't wear mine when going from dorm to dorm and lived on a small campus) 3) They searched the lakes shortly after his disappearance but did ran into MN winter weather rather quickly and decided to wait to do more/more extensive water searches until the spring. The area he likely would've fallen in (if he did) was really shallow (3 feet deep tops) so it's unlikely he wouldn't have been seen early on if he had fallen in 4) There were two witnesses who saw a man who fit Josh's description on the bridge that night. They did not mention anyone else around nor any cars at the time.
It was late at night when Nick left Katie's apartment. It's very possible that Katie incorrectly remembered the time that Nick left Katie's place. No one else was there to verify the time he left and there were no surveillance cameras to time-stamp his departure, so it's possible that the time she gave was just an estimate, and was wrong. Nick was planning to attend law school the following year, so it's unlikely that he would do something so criminal to jeopardize his future.
What happened to 14 years old Jenny Lin, who in 1994 was murdered in her Castro Valley home? Could you also check into the unsolved murder of Bing Woon Joe, 9-15-95 in Portland, Oregon. Lisa Norrell (15) went missing on November 6, 1998, after leaving a quinceañera rehearsal class in nearby Antioch and returning home alone. Her body was found near a landscaping business on the highway between Pittsburg and Antioch on November 14th. She had been strangled to death. I have always admire your bloodhound detective work along with your sharp analogous, Dr. Grande!
Dr Grande ... Thank you for the illustrative graphics! Definitely helps with the visualization of the story details. The only thing I probably would have done is added a photo of a likeness of Hoover the Bloodhound (because dogs always increase the appeal of any video). Extra bonus points if there was a mugshot style photo of Hoover in the Video thumbnail. Joshua should have had a part time job to occupy his free time. Then he would have been too tired to go anywhere and he would still be alive today. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes.
Why hasn’t anyone noticed that multiple college students have disappeared?? Someone posted they live nearby and this isn’t a one time thing. Seems suspicious.
Did they have any proofs that he had any casual encounters with strangers from internet before? I don't recall that they spoke about it in the episode.
No proof after looking at his emails etc. However I don't believe they are able to actually get into his Yahoo personal messages because Josh deleted the software on October 28th, several days before he went missing. He also reported a user to Yahoo for violation of policies shortly before deleting his Yahoo stuff and immediately after being on the phone with an unknown person for about a half hour. Not sure it's related to his disappearance at all but things to think about.
very sad case. idk if it is something youd do for a video typically but id be interested to see your analysis of the strange man caught on video creeping on van life vlogger Alyssa Vanilla here on youtube who seemed awfully like a predator of some kind on the prowl. odd that he originally claimed to be checking on her cause he makes sure people dont need water, then returned with some weird alternate personality saying he saw a different guy creeping on her with binoculars and told him he offers people water ???? which is exactly what he himself had just done? it was almost like he was warning her about himself
I saw that video too and commented on it. Don't know that there's enough to go on though. But it was definitely good to see that she got the hell out of there.
Yeah, it's a grift. An old one. Create a threat, then step in as the solution to the threat. She is scared of one guy, so, for this apparent knight in shining armor, she let's her guard down, and let's this guy get closer. ...... He's experienced at doing this, he's done it before, and he will end up hurting a girl. I'd guess his targets are usually younger. 10-13 yr olds. Kids that would be in the park, or walking the neighborhood, alone. Easy to have different versions of this tactic. eg. 'Oh, I'm with Neighborhood Watch, I saw you walking alone. I wanted to make sure you were ok. Where do you live? Do your parents know where you are?" etc, grill them for info. Hope she stays safe. She should park next to a cop shop, in front of an all night diner, laundromat. Find city cameras, obvious ones, park in their sight. Put signs on the outside of the windows, "External Cameras Monitoring This Location" ... "911 Enabled Bluetooth Alarms Monitoring Vehicle" Peace
Sifting through it all, this is what I come up with as a simple scenario. I discount that an argument might have happened between Josh and Nick as the one roommate who could have heard it supposedly has never come forward to say. I discount Nick refusing to take a polygraph as my bet is he had an attorney advise him against it. Neither do I think Josh was grabbed off the street or fell in the water. That makes no sense. I don’t think that a paper he might or might not have planned to write on sexual abuse at St John’s had anything to do with it, either. Nothing was ever found indicating that he had even started that project and therefore no one would have known anything about that. Here’s what I think: I think Josh was gay and knew it for a long time. I think he broke up with Katie because she wanted sex and he didn’t want to give it to her. Somewhere along the way there was a person who said after the breakup Josh seemed like a weight was lifted from his shoulders. There’s not another simple explanation for him to feel that way. Therefore, I don’t think Josh cared one way or the other if Nick and Katie dated for a little while. Josh was on Yahoo messenger. He was looking for guys. Period. He knew what he was doing. His female profiles IMO were nothing more than a ruse to get dick pics or watch other guys jerk off on camera. I think he ran into a Priest or Monk from the University on Yahoo. That would explain the 28-minute phone call which would have been for the purpose of blackmailing Josh and then Josh freaking out and deleting Messenger and all of his profiles. He was horrified and scared to have been found out. At that point, Josh probably thought he was in over his head. Therefore, it makes sense to me that Josh was blackmailed into having sex with a Priest or Monk and that is where he went in the middle of the poker party. It would also explain why his scent went to the Abbey which had the Monastery adjoining it to the rear. And why he left certain articles behind in his dorm room such as his glasses and credit cards. He wasn’t going far from home and didn’t need them. I think Josh was drugged by the Priest or Monk, and that Josh had an OD and died then and there. Now it would have been the Priest or Monk’s turn to freak out. As it was, St John’s could not have withstood another scandal at that time, and Josh’s body was after a little while taken away to be buried either in the cemetery at St John’s or on a piece of property elsewhere where no one would ever look, like the property on Swenson Lake near Bemidji, Minnesota owned by the St John's and which is something like 140 or 150 miles away. It also explains why the St John’s authorities wouldn’t let the Bloodhound into the Abbey until a while later. Once Josh’s body was gone. So, that’s it. It’s a simple theory and it hangs together. Josh was found out as being gay, he was blackmailed, died accidentally, and was buried. None of the students knew, and others who did know never said a word. As time goes by more and more of those who know will die and dead men tell no tales.
Even a really reliable bloodhound would have trouble following a trail that cold in an urban environment. Even the handler would probably doubt the dog. Once the air track of the person (their smell in the air) has dispersed, they rely on articles or things they've touched, or maybe something they tracked on their shoes. Conversely, in a wilderness search, the trail can be followed for much longer because they can also follow the environmental change due to the person passing. Things like misplaced earth, bent blades of grass, shuffled leaves, broken twigs, etc all have a smell and make it clear that someone has passed there. They also may have touched branches, trees, or anything organic with their skin, which will retain the individual's unique scent longer to confirm the identity of the track-layer (some dogs are trained to indicate whenever they find such an identifier to keep their handler in the know, and so they can mark it on GPS or in the field). Source: SAR K9 handler/trainer here yo Edit: Also, since the dog in question and his handler were independents and not on a formal task force or with a well-reputed organization, they may be known to just be bad at their jobs and refuse to retire, and inexperienced folks keep hiring them, to the chagrin of local law enforcement.
My husband attended St. John's in the graduate theological school from 2007-2009. I don't recall anyone mentioning him missing. There were still posters up for Jacob Wetterling around campus though. I don't think the 2 are related just odd to not have Joshua's missing poster up (if there was a poster). I lived there from 2008-2009 after I married my husband and he finished his last year there. The surrounding communities were extremely shaken up after Jacob went missing. This was before they found his body. It had a huge impact on the whole area. My guess would be the simplest, he got drunk (maybe it didn't hit until after he left the party) and drowned in a lake. There is a lot of water in the area of all sizes. No weird vibes from the campus, the monks, etc. It's just a normal university. My husband and I aren't Catholic, so no reason to side with the university.
Video Request of Aaron Carter’s state of mind. He was recently doing well for a couple of months. His focus was towards his dogs and such. Then he just passed.
Current SJU Student and local resident, definitely weird seeing this case getting a lot of publicity lately. Hope it can lead to some developments in the case!
Oh, those little polite stabs against politicians are so on point... I'm Italian, and I'd love to hear your commentary on OUR politicians... 😂👿 The last few decades have produced the most interesting specimens for your speculations 🥲
Great vid. Disappearance cases are always interesting. Would be great if, at some point, the missing UK aristocrat Lord Lucan could receive the Dr Grande analysis.
I had just watched the Unsolved episode, also. The one thing you didn't address, Dr. Grande, was the news reports about the monks at the Abbey being accused of sexual abuse. Joshua's friend had mentioned Joshua was doing some research about the accusations. Police said they didn't find any evidence of that, but remember, the internet search history had been tampered with. Also the bloodhound had traced Joshua's scent to the Abbey. That really raises questions in my mind. That said, I really appreciate how you so logically put the facts together and come up with most and least probable theories.
I've just watched this episode of unsolved mysteries and its absolutely crazy how this guy just vanish :O Sorry if my English isn't the best one. Greetings from Venezuela and hopefully we will get more information about this strange case!
Hey doc. I got done watching an episode of forensic files. Plz analyze Paul Taylor/Kathy Woodhouse (unless you have already in the past.) I ask because at the end of the episode he said he felt remorse for the family but not for her. Sounded cold
DrGrande I live in California and have a friend that has gone missing in Arizona. His name is James daniels aka mojo. Investigators have been hired and podcasts have been done. When I looked into Arizona missing persons the list was really long. Longer than most states. Since it’s your home state I thought maybe you could look into it. Why so many missing in Arizona? Are the authorities not putting things together? Is it more than just random missing people? Just a thought.
Hi Dr. Grande. I always enjoy your analyses and dry wit! I don't know how to contact you with a suggestion for a future episode other than right here. So how about Colin McRae, the Scottish rally driver, who died in 2007 while piloting his private helicopter. Besides Colin, his young son and two friends also died. Colin had a reputation for pushing his driving and, perhaps, his piloting to the absolute limit and I think he would make an interesting subject for your analytical skills. Thanks.
Dr Grande have u done the case of haily Cummings from Florida? The year was 2008-2009 around the casey Anthony case. It really bothers me she was never found 😞
The guy in the orange car was most likely the campus drug dealer, IMO. Listening to the "Simply Vanished" podcast, multiple SJU men were approached and almost kidnapped near/on campus in the weeks before and after Joshua's disappearance. One man was grabbed by four men in a truck/SUV, but was able to escape a short time after. I concur with you Dr. Grande, most likely foul play was involved. Love your content, insight and wit. :)
I'm terminally ill and often get a bit depressed. When that happens,I find one of your videos to watch. In no time at all, I find myself laughing at one of your hilarious comments. Thank you Dr. Grande! What would I do without your sense of humour.
God bless you, Mary👏🏼.
@@rickbrenner6079 Thank you. That was such a kind comment.
Sending love
There are a lot of terminally ill people diagnosed 20 years ago. It happened to my aunt, she lived into her 90s. so you just keep going. Hope you feel and do well.
God bless you Mary. We are laugh with you with Dr. Grande's jokes jaja
My cat went missing when I was like 19 and I was a freaking wreck. I would drive around sobbing for hours, hanging up posters. So I cannot even fathom my child or a loved one going missing. My heart aches for them and I hope they get answers.
What a nice person you must be
@R Voit Ransom? Where did you get that idea? That notion has never been brought up anywhere.
@@Indusxstan I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not
@@ladygrey5219 that is what is known as a joke. Clearly "ransom" was never mentioned but is being used here as a reason for the cat going missing. This could be considered "dark humour"
…when I was like 19…. Why add the filler word like???
Some of these disappearances are astounding. Not like they’re happening in the wilds of Alaska or deep in the Amazon. Just poof, gone after a seemingly normal college kid evening. In a relatively small and populated area. Just… gone. So little evidence or answers (almost none) has to be excruciating for loved ones.
Great as always, Dr. G
I know. The poor families must be devastated, and I can only imagine what it must be to lose your child like that. I think of my own boys and I know, that would come close to killing me if one vanished like that.
The US is huge. People have disappeared in urban areas after having a single car accident late at night when their car ends up down an embankment in thick brush. Millions of drivers pass by, but the area has no foot traffic. Eventually, years later, CalTrans or PG&E discovers the wreck doing maintenance. People drive into canals.
It’s frustrating just as a viewer so I can’t imagine having a loved one disappear. The not knowing sounds like a living hell
its serial killers - we have all heard about how many are operating. and its probably underestimated! covering up abuse/ scandal is the RCC's speciality - so Hoover might be the only one on the right track - sucks that hoover is caught in a vacuum...
I cant forget the one lady, who fell from her attic inside her wall. That mustve been the loneliest she ever felt, in a bustling city full of people around her. It was thought she fell in trying to save her cat, in this claustrophobic small space, with no way to even turn around. The next tenants found her bones, they had lived months with her body. Sometimes you can go missing and still remain so close.
"The same element which makes a secret exciting makes it dangerous"... Always brilliant Dr. Grande! Thank you for your coverage of this mystery. 🖤
That is so, so often the case. A lot of young women find "bad boys" incredibly exiting, and live long enough to find out that bad boys are just really bad people. It's the same way the other way around, too. Horrible people come in all genders and colors imaginable, and we need to keep our eyes peeled at all times. It's a sad and intim fact of our lives now...
Hi Dr. Grande. It seems to me he didn't want to talk about it, he just turned his pretty head & walked away. Isn't that a song from a rock group in the seventies? I hope they eventually solve this case, peace 🙂😍😀😎😇☕🍩☕✌👍& hugs, 👄💋🖤💜❣ Janine Smiley
@@Kari.F. I agree except that the past was just as dangerous or more dangerous than now.
@@Kari.F. The past was far more dangerous than the current period. Rates of violence have been declining for decades. Check out the book "The Better Angels of Our Nature", by Dr Steven Pinker. He presents all of the statistics.
@@PhillyAnthonyD Pinker is a genius. My take on this story : it does not bother me that he had multi-flavored pr0n on his computer. It was still early days for that on the internet, and people were experimenting. The chat room stuff is a problem for me. He got exposed there, and they came and got him.
My heart really goes out to Joshua's family and loved ones, knowing this case may never be solved. Thanks Dr. G, another cautionary tale.
His parents seem so nice.
This guy Dr Grande is more scary than any of the psychopaths he talks about🥶
Thanks for pointing out that polygraphs are pseudoscientific nonsense.
I knew Hoover back in the day. He was a good investigative dog but once he had a taste of those artisanal dog biscuits, he spiraled downward into a life of addiction. Losing his investigating job was hard on the old boy and he really began an even more severe dependency to Beggin Strips. I hope Hoover gets the help he needs so he can get clean and put his sniffer to use once again.
Beggin strips... the poor bastard. They've taken down the best of them.
Very funny!
🤣That's it then. Beggin Strips are a known gateway biscuit.
It was more than just Beggin' Strips. He became addicted to something so kinky... so shameful he would have done anything to protect the secret. Cat-nip. I think what got to him the most was all the cat calls at the dog park. And nobody would sniff his but.
😂
I live about 50 miles from there, over the years there has be ALOT of college aged kids that have disappeared, and a lot of other kids are found in water. I have had a couple of friends who went to that college and I went there a couple of times, its creepy.
How many is "a lot", specifically?
@@eadweard. I'd have to go back and count but I'm sure you could look it up if you really wanted to know. There's a few colleges in that area and St Cloud State is one of those that is considered a "party college " and that town is pretty crazy even on a good night
@@eadweard. These cases are talked about in videos on the "smiley face killer" the cases are real but the smiley face part maybe not so much.
@Joan In Florida I say that exact thing to my kids, if it feels weird just get the hell out of there, even if you can't put your finger on why
Yeah, in all honesty, I don't entirely agree with Dr. Grande’s analysis of this case. Well, part of it, at least. I believe that the drowning theory is the most likely one, partially due to what you pointed out, which is that college-aged individuals drowning in lakes due to intoxication has happened many times before. That's only part of my reasoning, though.
He was too conscientious and logical to be president? Dr. Grande, this kind of humor is what keeps us coming back.
Ditto. I’m laughing galore
😂 yes
I think we need to check into Hoover's whereabouts on the night in question. Does he have a solid alibi? The whole "I tracked him going towards the lake" thing could be a ruse to misdirect.
Fifi the poodle was his alibi but poodles are notorious for doing anything for a dog yummy. Teacups are the worst.
Munus meum accedas, Soror
OMG I went to St. Benedicts and my husband went to St. John’s. My husband (now ex-husband) told me of the many homosexual advances and intrigues of the monks on campus. It was the fabric of the campus especially in the dormitories. If anything nefarious happened look at the monks!
I’ve always thought his death could be related to meeting up with a gay guy. Or, maybe he was embarrassed to tell his family and friends that he was gay. And possibly committed suicide. A very sad story. 💔
@@cht2162 Except the OC just gave you testimony of a first hand account of living there.? ... And, to say, 'questioning one's sexual identity is a universal task...', is, well, beyond ridiculous, isn't it. So, no point in exposing it's lack of value.
Yep. I’m his same age and friends with a connected case where the young man ended up murdered a week before. PIs found that Josh was investigating the monks at the Abbey for SA of vulnerable students… just look into it. There are many cases of monks SA these 18-20 year old guys. Josh was investigating it and catfishing them to get proof is what I’ve been told by friends who went to college with Josh. He wanted to blow the whistle and there was some kind of a threat, stalking or a break in of his dorm shortly before he went missing if I remember correctly. Dr Grande didn’t mention that the college got a restraining order against Joshes father and family for bringing search dogs and PIs to campus to conduct searches. The Abbey wouldn’t let police or search dogs come in without a warrant (which was obtained a lot later and searched). There’s a lot more there
I listened to the Simply Vanished podcast. It is a brilliant podcast about that case if you want to learn more I recommended. I hope they find him. So sorry for his family.
@@JackieGladney Wow! A lot of that information was not in the Unsolved Mysteries episode. Example: Josh catfishing the monks, or that his room was broken into or whatever happened, or the fact his father has a restraining order from the school. Crazy! I feel like that's so important and should've been in the show.
I’ve vaguely heard about this story some years ago. It’s quite eerie how some people disappear like this. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande, have a great day!
Like the whole 411 mystery
Yep. It is said that a dead Jesus went missing from a cave closed by a big rock
Lol, quite eerie is a huge understatement.
It's literally one of the most terrifying and devastating things that can happen to someone and their family...
What yall think happened? I'd go with murdered in his gay, late-night rendezvous.
It is interesting, but once the mystery is solved, it's always some boring, mundane explanation. I'm not sure if that's good or bad.
Todd Grande's Mantra in life :
1. Don't diagnose, only speculate.
2. Have a good sense of humour.
3. Do not smile/laugh in front of camera, no matter what.
Dude! 😆
There have been many college students who drove to "meet" someone they met online, only to be murdered once they got there. Happened in Texas to an A&M student, who drove for the meeting & was murdered.
Do you have a link?
“ A bloodhound with credibility problems” genious 😅 thanks for your analysis
All police dogs have credibility problems....
The bloodhound search was almost 2 months after the disappearance, I wonder at that bloodhound's success rate after 7 weeks. Dr. G says a police dog tracked Joshua, I wonder how long after the disappearance.
@@joemcmillan2089 it was not police dog, it was a dog, that family brought out. But bloodhound must be at least lead to the most likely place of someone's step. Police detectives stayed so jealous and didn't like, that someone but not them uses dogs, means doing self investigation, by doing this action, intruding in their work in such a manner to find a trace, that they can not find, their team didn't want to seem weak among others.
@@Andrew-qb8eh Read my post again.....
I never said this was a police dog.
In the spring I was involved in a search for a missing man that was distraught. His vehicle was found near a semi-desert wilderness area with a lot of scrub brush. The PD had searched the most likely area with a ground team, several cadaver dogs and a drone and found nothing. The family was interested in a search of an adjacent area and that was the area I was involved in and we found no trace. Later the Sheriff brought in another dog and searched with no success. A few months later, person walking their dog found the man’s body under brush in an area that had been searched. He had taken his own life and made efforts to conceal himself. I never received details on the exact location. My take on search dogs is until these search dogs can speak English, I’m not inclined to trust them. That is unless they show me where the body is located.
"Murdered by vengeful monks" is surely a first time this phrase has ever been uttered. I salute you sir.
Man Dr. Grande can’t we ever have anyone runaway to start a new life😂
Taking your phone and wallet is not a great idea these days as you can be traced by cell towers and ATM use.
@R Voit I hope that’s what she did.
@R Voit that’s great!
The minute I heard he had left his wallet, contacts, glasses, coat and belt I think it was at his apartment it rubbed me the wrong way. My son is that age. There is no way they are going out without at least some combination of those items. Which led me to question did he actually return home? Did he actually return home with Nick? And something actually happened after. There was two hours between when Nick's keycard was used and when campus was alerted. I find it odd at that age you would contact campus if your friend wasnt home two hours after you. I would assume they hooked up with someone and are sleeping at their place. If he apparently was at a party and didnt come home naturally one would think he met a girl and will be back in the morning. I think reporting it at 4:20am was odd. Sometimes kids go for food after parties, pass out at parties etc so I dont know why you would panic yet. The Nick gentlemen seemed nice and genuine but I still find that odd. I would like to see a timeline list of everyone who came in with a keycard during that time. Did he actually go back to his room. Contacts and glasses are there so I'm curious his prescription. How far could he see and after a few drinks without glasses how much worse would his vision have been? I feel there are many unanswered questions.
They had to badge in to get into their apartments. Josh did not badge back in after leaving at 11:06, which is why it is assumed he did NOT come back home. However, it's not unusual for doors to be propped open etc so you never know. The intriguing thing for me is that someone was at Josh's computer listening to music and manually skipping songs between 11:52 PM and 12:32 AM. Is it possible Josh did make it back and then left again at 12:30? Was one of his roommates using his computer? We know Nick wasn't there, but he had other roommates as well. They reported him missing the following day at 4:20 PM not AM after he missed a meeting and a mock trial practice (which was not like him). I think they assumed earlier in the day he just stayed somewhere else after the party and realized it was serious later when he didn't show up for his comittments.
great points. im firmly in the foul play camp. nick is looking sus. he does not have an alibi...
@Grace Stevenson yeah I was thinking the person there listening to music let him in, killed him, but most logical he hooked up with the wrong person
You have the most soothing voice. Despite the content being discussed. Thank you for another great video Dr. Grande!
It’s sad that this is one, of many unresolved missing college students.
All over - drunk and water ……,
I was just searching for this case on UA-cam because earlier today I started the unsolved mysteries episode! Thank you!
Yasss! Please keep covering cases from the new Unsolved Mysteries season, we love to see it
Yas queen 💅🏻
@@hanyan2012 cringey
@@charliechurch5004 it's not cringey, let people be, my friend
grow up
I love your straight face sarcasm! ❤
Sounds like an open and shut case to me: he drowned and authorities were never able to find the body. The fact that the authorities are convinced he is not in there does not mean he is not; we've seen this scenario before and someone else finds the body after the police did a "thorough" search.
Can you analyze the 1984 cold case of Kelly Disney from Lincoln County Oregon! I worked out there for the Sheriff's Office for almost a decade working in the jail '12 to '21 including as a criminal investigator within the jail. It's one of the cases that the cold case detectives are still working & it still haunts the County almost 4 decades later...
With a last name like Disney, any number of satanic events could've happened to her.
@@mariagabrielle6383 completely unrelated, the family still lives in the area. I have my views on who might have done it from what little I know of the case but from working around some of the worst, there's no shortage of possibilities.
Edit: I mean the criminal element, I wasn't inferring anything else but then again this case has it all.
@@NvrDieNvrSurrender
Wasn’t she briefly suspected to be one of the Ghosts of Highway 20?
I think I read something about her case, if I recall correctly, it must have been a couple of years ago.
I had stumbled upon a brilliant Documentary about the PoS serial killer J.A. Ackroyd, and out of curiosity I read about other unsolved cases that could have been related to him.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, my memory isn’t as sharp as it used to be, but as I recall it; she did disappear from Highway 20 while walking there late in the evening or at night, but detectives had reason to suspect that she had been picked up by "friends", who sexually assaulted, murdered her, and left her body in the woods, or something like that - but not enough evidence to charge anyone!?
@@gorillaguerillaDK I initially thought the same and I think they even thought Green River Gary but I think they alibi out, I'm not sure. The deputy that was the last to see her that night too is someone who passed away some years ago but I don't know if they really ever got all the info about their interactions that night...
And yes, she disappeared off Highway 20 which was the stomping grounds from that serial killer Ghosts of Highway 20 (amazing documentary) but that part of Highway 20 is what connects the town of Newport to Toledo so it's well traveled to be honest though back then it might have been a little less traffic, it's still near two different city limits.
@@NvrDieNvrSurrender
It wouldn't be the first time a LEO was the last one to interact with a young woman who suddenly disappeared right after - and it wouldn't be the first time a LEO wasn't suspected of any wrongdoings until much later.
But just because it has happened elsewhere of course doesn't mean it happened there as well, a d haven't they investigated where he went after the interaction?
Wasn't there something about someone who had said they had witnessed what happened, but had been too afraid to step in and too afraid to say anything?
Did you hear any stories about what happened while you worked?
I know it's old news, but I'd be very interested to hear your take on Lance Armstrong.
I dislike Lance Armstrong. Why in earth would you literally keep the last name "ARM-strong" and then ride bikes?
It's like in the American revolution. "Thomas PAINE!!" and you choose to write a friggin book? Bruh should've been a general. "Thomas Paine's gonna BRING ON THE PAIN!!!"
friggin people ruining awesome names.
Lorne armstrong?
Happy Saturday Dr. Grande & audiences! 👏👏👏👏
Tyvm for all of your dedication and hard work! Have a great weekend! ❤
If he was using female profiles to meet men, it's not hard to imagine one of those men becoming enraged when Joshua showed up to their date instead of a woman. (No judgment - it would've been very difficult for Joshua to be openly bisexual in his situation.) I have to wonder how well the police looked over his Yahoo Personals contacts.
No excuse for deceiving men into think he was a women
@@adachikae He may have been doing that as a way to get nudes from men. There were nude pictures of both men and women found on his computer. It doesn't necessarily mean he was meeting men under the pretense that he was a woman
Originally the police did not look super into it. In 2008 they were able to recover the files that were "wiped" and just NOW released a series of photos of men that were having conversations with Josh via Yahoo, They released in the hopes people could identify the mean for police to track down and have conversations with (not that they are suspects per se but to get more leads)
he was a gop member in the making, secret fetish.
That was the weird part. In 2002 there were plenty of Gay exclusive sites…. So pretending to be a woman seems odd… maybe a fetish…
What a tragic case! Your comments in your final thoughts were incredible- everybody should hear those words!
Also loved your story about the dog, Hoover! 😂🐕
So weird. I just watched the episode yesterday. But the show has been out for a month. You always release stuff right after I watch it!
Great analysis and the humor is on point as always! I hope you are enjoying your weekend.
Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤
I've met two people in my life that I've known for years. Both of these individuals was complete success stories from the time they was literally like 16. The dreams they set as teenagers was eventually accomplished by the time they was in their late twenties. Both individuals at different periods of time just randomly snapped, I mean just a complete breakdown mentally and physically. Both individuals never drank never use drugs never committed crimes, and one day it was like someone turned on a light switch in both. Neither one of them knew each other and it didn't happen at the same time I'm just saying I know two people who's just seem to snap out of nowhere. And completely ruin their lives and destroy them in a matter of a year. Me and my friends often talk about it and say what the hell you think happened. Because after a few years it was like they came back to reality. Completely lost everything and everyone around them but came back to reality. So I am convinced sometimes people just lose it
I’d just finished the episode when you posted this. Looking forward to hear your take on it :)
Same I watched it last night
"felony destruction of shoe laces"....I love this guy!!
I hope you’re enjoying the weekend while working, Dr. Grande.
Absolutely love your content and speculations on various individuals.
I know Pontiac Sunfire's had multiple quality issues, but crushing the car was a little much wasn't it?
Thank you Dr. Grande, you are a very unique and special person! Happy Holidays everyone!❤
Thank you SO MUCH FOR YOUR MISSING PERSONS CASE you always do an excellent job Doctor! Your analysis of missing persons are my favorite thank you 🙏 ❤
Dr. Grande🪲 You Are Wonderful ~ Your Subtle Humor Is BEYOND
MAGNIFICENT😘
Another great video from Dr. Grande. Many thanks from all of your many fans & subscribers in the U.K. 💗
"he was eager to get back to school” Hey. I resemble that remark. I was the jerk grad student who suggested that our team meet over Thanksgiving break because that was a lot of free time - we might as well get some work done.
I loved school. 👩🎓
@calendarpage *You were the group project partner that always annoyed tf outta me lol.*
@calendarpage *You were the group project partner that always annoyed tf outta me lol.*
I was the one that enjoyed life, went to all the campus parties, and off campus parties, slept the entire week of thanksgiving break, was never in a sorority because I was a GDI, graduated, and still got a great job with a higher than average salary. I guess I was the average student taking advantage of living 5 hours away from mom and dad.
I loved Robert stack he was legendary, starting the video now can’t wait ..ur vids release mega dopamine haha love ya dr !
“The same element that makes a secret exciting, makes it dangerous.” brilliant quote! Thanks Dr Grande
"Feasting with panthers" is how Oscar Wilde described it. And he should have known.
Reasons to refuse a polygraph:
1. If you pass the test the police won’t eliminate you as a suspect. If they don’t trust their own test why should you?
2. If you mistakenly fail the test now you become a suspect. This may distract the police from putting their energy into finding the real culprit. Worse, it may prejudice their investigation and cause them to manufacture evidence against you. They may do this consciously or subconsciously.
3. Why create evidence which may be used against you? Passing the test will have little value to you in a defense in court. There’s no benefit to you.
4. A significant minority of the population will fail these tests even if telling the truth. You may be one of these people. You don’t know if you are one of these people. Why take that risk?
These tests should be outlawed in criminal investigations.
Always let someone know where you're going and who you're with.
Possession of a dog biscuit or felony destruction of shoe laces😂😂😂😂😂😂😂That made me laugh out loud Dr Grande!
I had never heard of this case and it breaks my heart. I want to say RIP Joshua, but that's not possible. Missing people are definitely the most tragic. I hope his family finds answers, or at least some peace.
Look at the college and the monks. Therein lies the answers. Which of course have been buried all these years.
I didn't know unsolved mysteries was still a series in 2022.
This is my first time hearing of this and Collegeville is only like 10miles from my appartment. It's in a large beautiful forest that I could see a person's body being hidden out there and nobody ever finding it.
Theres a podcast similar to Serial about this case. It's called simply vanished. The most infuriating detail is the police never searched his computer
They did but it had been wiped by the time they got it. The big mistake was not locking off Josh's room/computer in the first place which allowed for someone to wipe it. Eventually in 2008 they were able to recover most of the items on the hard drive (once better tech came out) but of course by then it's much harder to solve the case after so much time
I just finished the podcast! It was so emotional. Very sad case and I truly hope that someday they will find Josh.
It makes me feel smart when I get the correct order that Dr Grande did😊
I’m glad to hear the dog’s name included. Good name for a tracking dog 😂
Hi, Dr. Grande. Love your work. Can you please look into the case of Robert Raymond Cook, the last man hanged in the Canadian province of Alberta?
His crime you mean?
A sad story but your dry humor make me love a lot.
Joshua's family should ask Adventures with Purpose to search those lakes.
Yes. That group is awesome!
There's a good 10 minutes of interesting material packed into every one of their 40 minute videos.
@@eadweard. 🤣 truth...but they have helped families for real so I let them off with the drama of it all
@@eadweard. You're speaking as a consumer of video. I'm speaking of their work, i.e., finding people.
I really enjoy listening to you. It’s so relaxing when I am feeling not quite right. Thank you. ❤
Ooooh yay! I told my husband that you would probably cover this one and you didn't disappoint!
Thanks again for your analysis of the mysterious disappearance of Josh Guimond, Dr. Grande. My concern is that, if he was going out to meet someone on that cold night, why didn't he take a coat with him? There is also the question as to why the police disregarded the findings of the bloodhound, which suggests that the police might have known something that they chose not to share with the public. And really, how accurate could the police searching the lakes for Josh's body be when conducted months later? His body might have been washed up on the shore and been eaten by wild animals and the remaining bones being dispersed by the animals in the intervening months. Of course, the murder theory is the most plausible, with Josh meeting someone in a vehicle on the bridge, where the police dog traced him to but had no further scent of him after that point. Another possibility is that his roommate was waiting for him in his car on the bridge and murdered him, although the time he left Josh's ex-girlfriend's party would make this unlikely unless she knowingly provided him with an alibi because he returned to the dorm roughly an hour or so later than it would have taken for him to return from her party. It was supposedly only seven minutes away by car.
@@cht2162 if he was going to do that he could've joined the abbey that literally was a 100 yards away from him on campus. Very doubtful he'd just disappear off the face of the earth
1) The reason why the police dismissed Hoover is due to his training. His handler was a true crime fan that didn't attend any true training or classes but simply self-taught herself and Hoover via watching videos and true crime shows, etc. He wasn't reliable unfortunately
2) The campus was very small, with most walks being less than 5 minutes. Walking on campus without a jacket even when cold isn't implausible especially if you were only planning on going a short distance (which he was with the party). In the case of the potential meetup, walking to the bridge or parking lot from the party also would've been short distance and then he would've been in a presumably heated car. Not unusual for college kids to not have their coat (I didn't wear mine when going from dorm to dorm and lived on a small campus)
3) They searched the lakes shortly after his disappearance but did ran into MN winter weather rather quickly and decided to wait to do more/more extensive water searches until the spring. The area he likely would've fallen in (if he did) was really shallow (3 feet deep tops) so it's unlikely he wouldn't have been seen early on if he had fallen in
4) There were two witnesses who saw a man who fit Josh's description on the bridge that night. They did not mention anyone else around nor any cars at the time.
It was late at night when Nick left Katie's apartment. It's very possible that Katie incorrectly remembered the time that Nick left Katie's place. No one else was there to verify the time he left and there were no surveillance cameras to time-stamp his departure, so it's possible that the time she gave was just an estimate, and was wrong. Nick was planning to attend law school the following year, so it's unlikely that he would do something so criminal to jeopardize his future.
Another brilliant, priceless analysis! 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
What happened to 14 years old Jenny Lin, who in 1994 was murdered in her Castro Valley home?
Could you also check into the unsolved murder of Bing Woon Joe, 9-15-95 in Portland, Oregon. Lisa Norrell (15) went missing on November 6, 1998, after leaving a quinceañera rehearsal class in nearby Antioch and returning home alone. Her body was found near a landscaping business on the highway between Pittsburg and Antioch on November 14th. She had been strangled to death. I have always admire your bloodhound detective work along with your sharp analogous, Dr. Grande!
Hi dr grande, could you please analyze Charles Cullen? He was a serial killer nurse & there’s a new Netflix movie out about him called the Good Nurse
Dr Grande ... Thank you for the illustrative graphics! Definitely helps with the visualization of the story details. The only thing I probably would have done is added a photo of a likeness of Hoover the Bloodhound (because dogs always increase the appeal of any video). Extra bonus points if there was a mugshot style photo of Hoover in the Video thumbnail. Joshua should have had a part time job to occupy his free time. Then he would have been too tired to go anywhere and he would still be alive today. Play dangerous games, win dangerous prizes.
Cannot help thinking it was a casual hook up with the wrong person isolated cabin buried in a backyard. RIP Josh
Dog biscuit and shoe-laces - classic Dr. Grande! 🤣🤣 Thanks for balancing everything up with some humour, it's refreshing. Best 😊
P, S. Just the dog's name - Hoover - considering his profession, is a gem.
Hoover hoovered those dog biscuits. 🤣
Why hasn’t anyone noticed that multiple college students have disappeared?? Someone posted they live nearby and this isn’t a one time thing. Seems suspicious.
It's possibly just untrue.
Drunk kids by large bodies of water sounds like a nightmare
We should all have a friend who says "oh damn, I better clear his browser history now that he's dead."
Did they have any proofs that he had any casual encounters with strangers from internet before? I don't recall that they spoke about it in the episode.
Could be what was deleted from the puter?
No proof after looking at his emails etc. However I don't believe they are able to actually get into his Yahoo personal messages because Josh deleted the software on October 28th, several days before he went missing. He also reported a user to Yahoo for violation of policies shortly before deleting his Yahoo stuff and immediately after being on the phone with an unknown person for about a half hour. Not sure it's related to his disappearance at all but things to think about.
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
Thanks Doc. Another great video.
very sad case. idk if it is something youd do for a video typically but id be interested to see your analysis of the strange man caught on video creeping on van life vlogger Alyssa Vanilla here on youtube who seemed awfully like a predator of some kind on the prowl. odd that he originally claimed to be checking on her cause he makes sure people dont need water, then returned with some weird alternate personality saying he saw a different guy creeping on her with binoculars and told him he offers people water ???? which is exactly what he himself had just done? it was almost like he was warning her about himself
I saw that video too and commented on it. Don't know that there's enough to go on though. But it was definitely good to see that she got the hell out of there.
Do you know the name of the video? I can’t find it.
@@DottieMinerva Do a yt search of "Alyssa Vanilla" and then search her videos for "I was being watched"
Yeah, it's a grift. An old one. Create a threat, then step in as the solution to the threat. She is scared of one guy, so, for this apparent knight in shining armor, she let's her guard down, and let's this guy get closer. ...... He's experienced at doing this, he's done it before, and he will end up hurting a girl. I'd guess his targets are usually younger. 10-13 yr olds. Kids that would be in the park, or walking the neighborhood, alone. Easy to have different versions of this tactic. eg. 'Oh, I'm with Neighborhood Watch, I saw you walking alone. I wanted to make sure you were ok. Where do you live? Do your parents know where you are?" etc, grill them for info.
Hope she stays safe. She should park next to a cop shop, in front of an all night diner, laundromat. Find city cameras, obvious ones, park in their sight. Put signs on the outside of the windows, "External Cameras Monitoring This Location" ... "911 Enabled Bluetooth Alarms Monitoring Vehicle"
Peace
The pants around here just get lower and lower!
I agree with your analysis, great president quips. Thanks Dr G😉❤❤
Sifting through it all, this is what I come up with as a simple scenario.
I discount that an argument might have happened between Josh and Nick as the one roommate who could have heard it supposedly has never come forward to say.
I discount Nick refusing to take a polygraph as my bet is he had an attorney advise him against it.
Neither do I think Josh was grabbed off the street or fell in the water. That makes no sense.
I don’t think that a paper he might or might not have planned to write on sexual abuse at St John’s had anything to do with it, either. Nothing was ever found indicating that he had even started that project and therefore no one would have known anything about that.
Here’s what I think:
I think Josh was gay and knew it for a long time. I think he broke up with Katie because she wanted sex and he didn’t want to give it to her. Somewhere along the way there was a person who said after the breakup Josh seemed like a weight was lifted from his shoulders. There’s not another simple explanation for him to feel that way.
Therefore, I don’t think Josh cared one way or the other if Nick and Katie dated for a little while.
Josh was on Yahoo messenger. He was looking for guys. Period. He knew what he was doing. His female profiles IMO were nothing more than a ruse to get dick pics or watch other guys jerk off on camera.
I think he ran into a Priest or Monk from the University on Yahoo. That would explain the 28-minute phone call which would have been for the purpose of blackmailing Josh and then Josh freaking out and deleting Messenger and all of his profiles. He was horrified and scared to have been found out.
At that point, Josh probably thought he was in over his head.
Therefore, it makes sense to me that Josh was blackmailed into having sex with a Priest or Monk and that is where he went in the middle of the poker party. It would also explain why his scent went to the Abbey which had the Monastery adjoining it to the rear. And why he left certain articles behind in his dorm room such as his glasses and credit cards. He wasn’t going far from home and didn’t need them.
I think Josh was drugged by the Priest or Monk, and that Josh had an OD and died then and there.
Now it would have been the Priest or Monk’s turn to freak out.
As it was, St John’s could not have withstood another scandal at that time, and Josh’s body was after a little while taken away to be buried either in the cemetery at St John’s or on a piece of property elsewhere where no one would ever look, like the property on Swenson Lake near Bemidji, Minnesota owned by the St John's and which is something like 140 or 150 miles away.
It also explains why the St John’s authorities wouldn’t let the Bloodhound into the Abbey until a while later. Once Josh’s body was gone.
So, that’s it. It’s a simple theory and it hangs together. Josh was found out as being gay, he was blackmailed, died accidentally, and was buried. None of the students knew, and others who did know never said a word. As time goes by more and more of those who know will die and dead men tell no tales.
"Possession of a dog biscuit"......🗽🤣🤣
Even a really reliable bloodhound would have trouble following a trail that cold in an urban environment. Even the handler would probably doubt the dog.
Once the air track of the person (their smell in the air) has dispersed, they rely on articles or things they've touched, or maybe something they tracked on their shoes.
Conversely, in a wilderness search, the trail can be followed for much longer because they can also follow the environmental change due to the person passing. Things like misplaced earth, bent blades of grass, shuffled leaves, broken twigs, etc all have a smell and make it clear that someone has passed there. They also may have touched branches, trees, or anything organic with their skin, which will retain the individual's unique scent longer to confirm the identity of the track-layer (some dogs are trained to indicate whenever they find such an identifier to keep their handler in the know, and so they can mark it on GPS or in the field).
Source: SAR K9 handler/trainer here yo
Edit: Also, since the dog in question and his handler were independents and not on a formal task force or with a well-reputed organization, they may be known to just be bad at their jobs and refuse to retire, and inexperienced folks keep hiring them, to the chagrin of local law enforcement.
My husband attended St. John's in the graduate theological school from 2007-2009. I don't recall anyone mentioning him missing. There were still posters up for Jacob Wetterling around campus though. I don't think the 2 are related just odd to not have Joshua's missing poster up (if there was a poster). I lived there from 2008-2009 after I married my husband and he finished his last year there.
The surrounding communities were extremely shaken up after Jacob went missing. This was before they found his body. It had a huge impact on the whole area.
My guess would be the simplest, he got drunk (maybe it didn't hit until after he left the party) and drowned in a lake. There is a lot of water in the area of all sizes.
No weird vibes from the campus, the monks, etc. It's just a normal university. My husband and I aren't Catholic, so no reason to side with the university.
My husband just told me he saw Joshua's posters around campus too. My bad.
Your understated humor is the best!
I believe Hoover did have a misdemeanor of slobbering with an intent to soak!
Video Request of Aaron Carter’s state of mind.
He was recently doing well for a couple of months. His focus was towards his dogs and such. Then he just passed.
Current SJU Student and local resident, definitely weird seeing this case getting a lot of publicity lately. Hope it can lead to some developments in the case!
Love Dr. Grande's humor so much. He he.
Oh, those little polite stabs against politicians are so on point...
I'm Italian, and I'd love to hear your commentary on OUR politicians... 😂👿
The last few decades have produced the most interesting specimens for your speculations 🥲
Hey Dr Grande my everyday amigo ❤
Could you comment on the students killed in Idaho?? Thank you!! Love your videos!!❤
Great vid. Disappearance cases are always interesting. Would be great if, at some point, the missing UK aristocrat Lord Lucan could receive the Dr Grande analysis.
I had just watched the Unsolved episode, also. The one thing you didn't address, Dr. Grande, was the news reports about the monks at the Abbey being accused of sexual abuse. Joshua's friend had mentioned Joshua was doing some research about the accusations. Police said they didn't find any evidence of that, but remember, the internet search history had been tampered with. Also the bloodhound had traced Joshua's scent to the Abbey. That really raises questions in my mind. That said, I really appreciate how you so logically put the facts together and come up with most and least probable theories.
I've just watched this episode of unsolved mysteries and its absolutely crazy how this guy just vanish :O
Sorry if my English isn't the best one.
Greetings from Venezuela and hopefully we will get more information about this strange case!
Hey doc. I got done watching an episode of forensic files. Plz analyze Paul Taylor/Kathy Woodhouse (unless you have already in the past.) I ask because at the end of the episode he said he felt remorse for the family but not for her. Sounded cold
Touché Dr. Grande. President joke was priceless.
Told ya....all night 🖐️... Thank you Dr Grande.❤️
DrGrande I live in California and have a friend that has gone missing in Arizona. His name is James daniels aka mojo. Investigators have been hired and podcasts have been done. When I looked into Arizona missing persons the list was really long. Longer than most states. Since it’s your home state I thought maybe you could look into it. Why so many missing in Arizona? Are the authorities not putting things together? Is it more than just random missing people? Just a thought.
So sorry about your friend. I hope he's found safe and sound soon. Peace.
Hi Dr. Grande. I always enjoy your analyses and dry wit! I don't know how to contact you with a suggestion for a future episode other than right here. So how about Colin McRae, the Scottish rally driver, who died in 2007 while piloting his private helicopter. Besides Colin, his young son and two friends also died. Colin had a reputation for pushing his driving and, perhaps, his piloting to the absolute limit and I think he would make an interesting subject for your analytical skills. Thanks.
I don't trust the police checking lakes for submerged car's, let alone solo people.
Who should do the searching?
@@richardvinsen2385 Those folks who found kiely Rodni ain't too bad.
@@richardvinsen2385 professional divers
Hello 👋 good Dr Grande
Dr Grande have u done the case of haily Cummings from Florida? The year was 2008-2009 around the casey Anthony case. It really bothers me she was never found 😞
The guy in the orange car was most likely the campus drug dealer, IMO. Listening to the "Simply Vanished" podcast, multiple SJU men were approached and almost kidnapped near/on campus in the weeks before and after Joshua's disappearance. One man was grabbed by four men in a truck/SUV, but was able to escape a short time after. I concur with you Dr. Grande, most likely foul play was involved. Love your content, insight and wit. :)
Being kidnapped is a good theory.
Dr. Grande, I'd really enjoy your take on the controversy surrounding singer/songeriter Elliott Smith's "suicide".
Well it _was_ a suicide, wasn't it?
@@eadweard. still an open case with the lapd...
Wow! You got eb to retract his comment! Unheard of.
Hi Dr. Todd, please can you analyse Aaron Carter?
Sooo sad what has happened, I hope he is in a better place may he rest in peace
I can picture the officer accompaning the inmate saying, "I know facing death must be terrifying, but remember to breath normally".
I wonder what Dr Grande thinks about the new speech laws?..... I would love to hear what he thinks on "hurtful speech" 😒
Yesss, a new analysis 💚
Yipee!