Why Lionel Messi deserved to win the Ballon d'Or over Virgil van Dijk | ESPN FC
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- ESPN FC's Alejandro Moreno, Steve Nicol and Julien Laurens react to Lionel Messi's sixth Ballon d'Or triumph. The guys examine how Lionel Messi and Virgil van Dijk's seasons for Barcelona and Liverpool compare. Moreno and Laurens argue that Messi was most deserving of the award for "the way he's carried Barca." Nicol contends that Messi may be the best player in the world, but Van Dijk had a better 12 months.
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Imagine outperforming all your colleagues at work for 10 years and people still question wether you’re the right person to get a promotion.
Ya but meanwhie i guy who was homeless literally builds an empire and gets the best titles and shits on the other guy thinking he owns a promotion
John Buckley wait what who u talking about?
John Buckley “The best titles” Liverpool has won 1 trophy this decade. Calm down.
Reversal🥊 I get what you mean, but let’s not compare Trophies when it comes down to Messi and VVD lol
Imagine having the best year but someone else gets employee of the year because he was better 10 years ago
Very true the difference between van dijk and messi last season is that, Messi carried Barcelona, While van dijk made liverpool better.
Except Barca did zilch, and Liverpool won the CL. And VVD had a bigger impact on his team, than Messi did.
@@scottgomez1 winning the ucl should not determine winning the balon d'or. It's a single players performance and not a collective. Even tho Van Dijk had a good shout of winning
Star Virgile HIMSELF SAID MESSI IS BESt player in the world argument is done.
@@JuanGonzalez-vw5ud Sure it should. It shows the impact that VVD had on his team.
Or should we just base it on goals?
@@scottgomez1 yeah let's all ignore alisson exusts
Its an individual award, everyone seems to forget
Luke Fielding an individual award in a team sport, so wat you do in your team matters
John Cornell he basically carried hes team so be quiet
Law Bsk every match u play is in ur team Dumbo, Messi was the best This year
Hanh solo ronaldo didnt win it last year
@@Dalooteater sorry. Since it's been a messi and ronaldo marathon. I forgot modric. That's how it is. Messi did great last season too. Now I even forgot who won last time lel.
8:46 that's absolutely false
What Messi does on the pitch I can't even do that in video games
He truly is the GOAT
Then ur just a noob
hahaha i was thinking the same thing.
Thats because you probably suck
Is it that hard to not defend and walk on the pitch at Anfield..?
@@lionemessithegoat *HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*
A straight DECADE of consistancy.This just makes me realize we're probably the luckiest generation of football fans. Let's keep it 💯
Anees Abdulhafid umm Xavi iniesta drogba ibra etc
@Anees Abdulhafid you are smokiing crack. there are tons of future legends in this era, only they are standing in the shadow of messi and ronaldo
Anees Abdulhafid man I understand what you’re saying, too bad many people today will never understand. That was a golden period in football.
@Anees Abdulhafid nahh there are a lot good players in this generation.and maybe this is the best football generation
SunnyDfoFree 70 goal contributions and and he didn’t deserve it. If someone had these stats they would have won it
It’s sad that Virgil is so classy about placing second but his fans aren’t
Neither are his teammates have you seen Trent Alexander Arnold on Twitter that Kid serious needs to calm down.
Tbf messi fanboys and Ronaldo fanboys can be just as bad, just start a conversation about who's better and see how toxic it gets. I'm a liverpool supporter and as much as I would have liked vvd to win, I already knew messi would win it, messi carries the whole team.
Michael Alexander what did Arnold says
Sofir Uddin yeah both sets of fans really are annoying
@@bluefish752 He was making a disrespectful joke about the corner Against Barca literally right after Messi won the award go check it out
Just imagine if Higuain had scored that goal in the 2014 WC
As a german and a Messi fan, I would actually prefer Messi winning in 2014 instead of my country. It wouldve just ended all the debates.
@@jimhaug5292 and the only reason messi lost in UCL and World Cup 2018 was defence. His team scored 3 goals against the champions and the defence couldn't keep that huge lead
Almost everytime recalled the match, I also thought the same thing. But Argentina have zero luck at world cup level. 😥
@@jimhaug5292 U r great Messi fan. Love u brother.
Imagine if Messi had scored that goal against Germany in the 2014 WC.
“I have no problem with Messi winning this”
He clearly does 😂
Jamie Mcintosh he didn’t have a problem with it tho , either way he was ok with Messi winning it but in his eyes van dijk deserved it . I had no problem with Van Dijk winning it and im a Messi fan .
@@SolitaryJay only cause he sucks off liverpool
Jayhhs dude whether Stevie not worth a nickel liked it or not it won’t have matter. Messi won it officially fair and square. All this biased old idiot was worried about is the hammering he’s going to get coz he realised how stupid he looked. In other words bring on the custard pie for Stevie followed by humble pie, followed by shepherds pie & good night Nicol
@Chris bro, don't talk about 6-7 years ago if ur talking about the Ballon d'Or, it is a yearly award, ur clearly a messi fan kid, besides why vvd does not deserve it, he won 3 trophies compared to messi in 2019, and nobody has dribbled past him for 90+ hours, and ur saying he does not deserve it lol. get out.
@@foong2 Shut up dude, Messi clearly deserved it, more assist than any other player, more goals than any player, more chances created, more dribbles, more key passes in that year, don't talk thropies now dumass, is an INDIVIDUAL thropy NOT a team thropy 🤦♂️
3:38 when Ale said “that choice was Boateng, huh, Kevin Prince Boateng”😂😂😂
Why does messi have to be perfect to win a award any other player could have a season like him and they would be considered better than him
Fernando Padilla exactly. They take him for granted because he does it casually.
A victim of his own greatness
true af
Because old people are in denial and they think that there can't possibly be a better player than the ones they used to watch when they were young. You know, it's the "back in my days" bullshit argument.
FOR REAL
Its like how Xavi said,
“Messi is the greatest not because he s capable of everything, but because he knew how to last.”
That explains why Barcelona have won nothing in Europe since he and Iniesta left.
Miguel Vale this explains nothing. Barca just needs a batter coach
@@binemisko Them bottling back to back 3 goal leads isn't on the coach, mate. Hate to break it to you but Messi isn't a quarter of the leader Puyol was...
@@SLSAMG yeah but pique isn't a quarter the player Messi is also
Lol🖕😂
Miguel Vale dont talk if you dont know anything about barca
His goal v A Madrid on the day of the award just reminded everyone of his genius. 😲🔥😂
Marlon Blade maybe the Barca keeper is better ...if the score was 5-1 for atletico...the Messi goal was not that “ genius” ...goals like that one you can see every single weekend...and much beautiful
Bogdy Bogdy so you saying a decisive, important,single the one & only goal in a derby match against arguably the best shot stopper in the world in the most cagey meaningful defensive team/coach YET you don’t rate it much or is good enough for yuh? go watch cricket & leave football please.
@@DR-uq4hn ohhh savage😂
Remember when they said he’d never win a Ballon D’or without Xavi or Iniesta?
I think they said he wouldn’t win the champions league without them tbh. But he will do that eventually
What did he do to deserve this? Choke for 2nd consecutive year in champions league? Win Copa America?
@@union_sport be the best player for Barca and Argentina. Stop using team's failures to undermine the GOAT. Grow up.
Nobody said that.
@@union_sport Go cry some more, while the GOAT sleeps with his sixth ballon d'or
Messi out here collecting the infinity stones. Now he is truly the best in the universe
He is "inevitable"
@@Charlie_Nice mustafi won the world cup and played in various leagues... guess he is better than van dijk
@@Charlie_Nice You should write a book on this bias! Since you know so much!
@@Charlie_Nice Messi has a much better goals to game per ratio than Ronaldo(and anyone else) in the UCL as well. Not to mention more assists.
@@Charlie_Nice lol it means A LOT, he is 6 times Ballon D'or winner, just accept man
Mbappe can be great goalscorer like CR7 but can he be like Lionel Messi i didn't saw the single sign of that yet
Amol Paradke I literally have the same opinion
FACTS!!!!!
Facts baby👏🏽
Facts
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Someone tell Steve that If Messi was in Liverpool last season, they would not only win the Champions League, but also the premier league... This is how consistent Messi is.
If Messi was in Liverpool last year, they would’ve v'e conquered the Roman empire and enslaved its Caesar..
No not even we wouldnt want him bcs he never presses and why build a team around him
@@ND9HighlightsComps messi has more assist than Xavi , Ozil in la liga this season messi never passes 😂
@@ND9HighlightsComps you clearly lacking football knowledge
Steve never change until now he is always against Messi’s winning and achievements. This old hog really wants the audience to look and think of him as a dumb sports analyst because of his nonsense comments.
Van Dijk - incredible player, in an incredible team, managed by incredible coach.
Messi - incredible player, in a good team, managed by mediocre coach.
A PLAYER LIKE MESSI NEEDS NO MANAGER
@@GeekRaj but the team needs.
Abhijit Kunjiraman no because they have messi
@@GeekRaj yea..he needs no manager so he can get thrashed 4:0 back to back
A player like Messi is receiving an injustice from his team and coach, he represents their badge but at time like last year when Barca was against Liverpool in the 2nd game he was the only one playing with soul in his whole team.
vvd word for word “it’s not something I’ll be thinking about I think Messi deserves it as long as he plays”
Double V Dutch Sarcasm more of anything.
John Lunyamila no it was def not sarcasm
Sounded like he was mad or a bit annoyed he didn’t win...listen to the interview he gave mid ceremony and throws a lot of sneak disses
He said it before the award, Champions League match interview...I think. Massive respect for Van Dijk, imposing yet humble.
@@rubamann It wasn't
Now i want to slap those faces who were saying that messi can't win anything without Xavi, Iniesta etc.
"Personally I think we should get rid of this and say who's the best player in the world, then give it to them. And he would get it". That is what the Ballon d'Or is for, omfg he just said we should scrap it then give someone a trophy for being the best player in the world. Hahahahaha
When will people understand that failing to win the champions league is a team failure and that the ballon d or IS AN INDIVIDUAL AWARD.
If the slide at 7:13 had gone up on the board behind Drogba at the presentation, every single person in that room would have gone silent and stared at it.
Individually, every professional player will agree, Messi is and has been for the past 12 13 years from another galaxy.
Yeah
Big boi facts
J V MESSI HAS BEST GOAL PER GAME RATIO EVEN in champions league
@@slurp3194 he is the only active player that has a 1.0+ goal contribution per game across his career, its unreal.
Yup, the award for winning league is league champion trophy, the award for winning UCL is UCL trophy, award for winning league cup is a cup trophy.
Stevie look like the world of stress is on his head 😂😂
In this show Steve is the person I dont like most
@@arbatstarnongsiej2077 i agree
he 's MAD mad
@@GoogleUser-wf8mt sorry the corner was taken too quickly
Of course seems stressed but other hand Messi stat. Make him feel lost his words
It's a CRIME Messi won it after four years🤦♂️no argument the best player on the planet by miles🙌
Messi would be unstoppable if he had choosed Spain over Argentina
devandran definitely
He couldn't play for Spain he wasn't eligible
Zaid Aqeel yeah he was, Spain even offered Messi to play for them
He is not a traitor
@@RAINPoliane Why would he be a traitor if he chose his youth home over his childhood home? I mean I don't reproach him for choosing Argentina, but there would have been nothing wrong with wanting to play with his La Masia friends
Why is Cristiano even top 3 ?! Messi had a way better season last year and he finished top 5 🤦🏽♂️
Ikr. They hate Messi I think. Just like Kobe was.
They hate Barcelona for taking on the political views of Catalonia, Spain is a big seat in Uefa so UEFA strings are moved by Spain and other federations
I still think Ronaldo should've won it in 2018
And CR7 had at least an equal season as Messi now and didnt win it in 2018
Dude smoking something: Messi won La Liga 😂Ronaldo won with both club and the national team - multiple trophies against the best in Europe.
2:14
Dumb stats. They had Karius then and Alison now bruh
True
Don't forget Trent Alexander Arnold, Henderson, Robertson, Fabinho.
Salah, Firmino, Mane score a lot, so they win.
@@Godplayzdice
And don't forget Jurgen Klopp who's the master tactician behind all of their success, unlike Barcelona with Valverde smh. It is what it is.
The vvd overhype continues.
Definitely an idiot. Karius was already goalkeeper before van dijk came in. And when van dijk came in the first year he improved the defence drastically even before alisson came the season after.
If you look at Messi’s 2012 team that he was playing with compared to the team Messi is playing with in 2019 and him still managing to score 40+ goals is insane! Literally, the things that Messi does are astonishing.
Still bottles the big games but I digress. You fanboys can have your cake and eat it. Doesn't change the fact this award was meaningless the moment they decided it would be journalists that vote instead of team captains/coaches.
Miguel Vale Fan girl* you obviously can’t read a name. Also, how is what I said in any way undervaluing your favorite? You’re literally attacking me simply because I said Messi carried Barcelona? Don’t know how that could get you mad upset that you had to reply to my comment like a sore loser.
Alisson has more to do with the CL title than VVD.
It's okay to love Messi but stop bro. VVD is the most important Liverpool player. Allison missed a lot of games this season and Liverpool were still beating everyone. Take out VVD and Gomez and Lovren will struggle.
@@LoLLoL-mm6tt Matip is the second choice not Gomez, Lovern and Gomez rotate as 3rd choice depending on who is on better form.
@@niweshlekhak9646 you're right. Even with Matip in there they would still struggle.
@Vic Williams best in all competitions? How did he do in the copa america? Allision won it and went home a hero for Brazil for his heroics in the semi against Argentina and in the final.
@Vic. do you understand how football works ?
Messi almost carried this Barça team under Valverde to a treble, on his own.
The fact that he won his 6th Golden shoe and now 6th Ballon D’or under Valverde is just outrageous.
No other player in world football shows these kind of a abilities on a more consistent level. That’s what sets him apart.
He didnt win anything worthy of a ballon dor while at times van djik carried us
John Buckley tripping Messi carried Barca throughout the season without Messi what was Barca record without van dijk they still have mane Salah Messi was amazing throughout the season
John Buckley Yeah VVD has carried Liverpool but so has Mane. Without Messi Barca are a shadow of themselves but without VVD Liverpool still have a solid defence (not this season) and a great attack to score. Messi is irreplaceable
@@jinnybucko3353 i disagree, Liverpool is still a top 3 Team without VVD. But without Messi, Barca aint even top in La Liga
@@NBaeK01 The only reason Barca would not top La liga is because they run everything thru Messi. They have enough talent to win but there would be a phase of adjustment just like what happened at Real.
Messi is just something else the greatest player of all time
If Messi could defend corners like Ronaldo does then they wouldn’t have choked against Liverpool
Nina where was ronaldo against Ajax ? That De ligt winner
@@Oldheadontheblock that's a bullet topic to talk about everyone knows messi is short compare to cr7 so obviously u can't talk about it
Now, I really don't care who where when how says anything or everything against Messi, the fact is he has won the 6th ❤️
That not not make him the best, Pele won 7 and Messi won many corupted ones + back then Greats were not inlcuded in it
@@louishoek9269 okay it's your pont of view and it's fine. But that's 👆my point of view and I am fine with that too😊
@@louishoek9269 no Pele didn't won any ballou dors its just prediction that if Pele played at europe instead of weak league like Brazil he would've won 7 baloon dors because back then defenders were shite and that is why even maradona is above pele
@@louishoek9269 and none of ballon dors messi won wasn't corrupted
messi impacts la liga only. no cl, copa america, be serious. i love the guy but 6 BD is a lie. he is not not influential in all tournaments. he gets qf in CA , sf in CL and you give him BD EVERY YEAR? when ple say he carried barca, its only in la liga. he needs to win ca or cl to show over all greatness, but he is great. do not get me wrong
Steve Nicole is so biased. He's just contradicting himself
Stevie stays contradicting himself
Sylvinsky Laplante I know right 😂
He's so butthurt.
That's his style.
As always.
Lol
Messi > a literal 🐐
0 international trophies
Or the biggest flop in world cup history
@@LoftusBlake say it without crying
@@Dxgoe international football sucks compared to club football. And Messi has still excelled at it.
@@LoftusBlake Yeah. Golden ball winner and finalist.
I cant do what Messi does even in a video game... The Greatest... Leo... 😍😍😍
Glenn Robert u crack me up soo bad with this
I see Barça suffer big when Messi leaves.
Erick Rojas we’ve seen Barcelona how dramatically struggled when Leo is not on the field, he’s basically the oxygen of that team & once he leaves FC Barcelona are going badly down, sadly but 100% not going to be the same team that can compete at all. They’ll need to get 3-4 top class players to have any chance to.
@Sama Faracha yea and when barca loosing then messi gets subbed in barca ends up winning
@Sama Faracha they lost 8-2 against bayern
@Sama Faracha 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Sama Faracha they bottled the la Liga
Barcelona would not have come out the group stages of the champions league withotut Lionel Messi and Atlético would have had won la liga if Messi was not at Barcelona. He 100% deserved it
And explain to me why he didn't win UCL, Copa del Rey and Copa America?
@@robertobobby5905 why didn't van dijk win the premier league then
@@keyuantejohnson6266 liverpool scored more goals than barcelona,lost only 1 game at p league and kept more clean sheet finishing with 97 points. how many points did barca finish with. all you messi fanboys that dont see stats
@@keyuantejohnson6266 coz they drew ONE too many game, and with a team like city challenging for the title it just was unlucky season.
I'm not sure if you think 97 points don't win any league almost every year.
Keep blabbing on all you want you cant change nothing now haha messi 6th balon D‘or the most ever he is the best get over it we told you long ago he is the best we were right you were wrong cause your an idiot. See ya lol
In his acceptance speech, Messi gave thanks to
“the journalists [who choose the award winner]
and my team mates with whom I win and lose”.
He added: “I remember my first Golden Ball in Paris,
when I arrived with my brothers, now I pick up the
sixth, this was absolutely unthinkable.
“I have never stopped dreaming and enjoying
football like when I was a child. I hope I have
more years to enjoy, although I am aware of
how old I am. Everything happens very quickly
and I know that the time to retire is approaching
but i probably have few years”
@Mr Fi 🐐🐐🐐
Messix🐐
@akhenatuh he told neymar he will live within 2 years, thats already sad
Thnks u buddy for translation
@@wungramthingluithui4827 peace i
Stevie is "worldwide liverpool fans in a nutshell".
Also real madrid and ronaldo
Giggs played until his 40's.
Giggs is not Messi. Imagine Messi still being the best at 45. Lol.
I don't think Messi's body has the durability though because he's been injured more than some players which is understandable because he gets fouled a lot and that gets worse over time
Ronaldo would play until he is 40-45
Messi will stop at 35-40 most likely he is not that athletic
@B Liang lool Messi is stronger than Ronaldo trust me physically but just cos Ronaldo has an athletic body he's considered stronger ask players who's harder to knock over and they will say messi
Callum O'Connor ye Messi has better balance but he isn’t stronger 😂not a chance
B Liang he doesn’t seem that agile. When I see him dribble he looks so stiff
How is Ronaldo ranked over mane??
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Rigged
isn't ballon d'or mostly a popularity contest though?
How, he scored more assisted more and won more trophies
@@hitechj5057 Ronaldo scored more in 2019?
Give me your stats
HiTechJ Ronaldo only score 6 goals for Juventus this season,6 goal (3pen)
😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly tho, what is Mahrez doing in the top 10?? 🤣🤣
He won trophy with his country
Ronaldinho10 he won the premier league fa cup league cup and Africa cup of nations
He won 5 trophy in one seasons
Tkay 47 but he wasn’t even the best player that was given to Bennacer
Skillzie 01 Bernardo won all those trophies and actually started and won player of the year for man city and look where he is
I dread the day when Messi says he's had enough
Time is undefeated
Don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened
Praneet Singh 3 more years
@@dane1477 well said
@Patrick Chen yep
10:19 Rubbish managers. I'm glad he has said it.
What he said?
Liverpool wouldnt have won the Champions league without Mane either !!! Or Alisson !!! Or Salah !!! Or Arnold !!! Shall i go on !!!
Elwooddestiny11 Blues they basically make the team in my opinion
True,in other hand Barca only got messi and mats ,the coach is not even half good as klopp
most of the starters didnt even play for liverpool when they beat barcelona..
Forgot origi and wijnaldum
Andrew Robertson , fabinho , origi , wjandlum without whom reaching finals would have been a dretm
Can ESPN avoid Stevie in all discussions including Liverpool and it's player's, with all due respect
rosebell g bertin 😂 😂facts
Right!! saying VVD has the most impact in liverpool is disrespecting the rest o that super defense!! not recognizing 2 full backs defending and leading the whole team assists is absolutely disregardful
Wondering why Alison is ignored or neglected everytime. Vvd is good but so is Alison so why isn't he talked about that much
he said he doesn't mind, and messi is the best player in the world. He is just making an argument for VVD. Seems fair to me, I think it's in people's head.
9:50
I’m not sure Messi will retire that soon. He loves the game more than any player i know and has never shown any sign of being tired of it all. He just wants to play. As long he’s got 30-40 goals in him per season, I doubt he needs to retire. He’d still be leagues ahead of most players. He’s scoring and enabling over 70 goals at 32.
I might be wrong about this. But i just got this feeling. As long as he’s physically able, his mind is not getting in the way of his game.
He’s come so close to grabbing some of the biggest tournaments and they keep slipping out his grasp. So many times. The World Cup and the champions league of late. A lesser player would’ve called it quits. He still keeps coming back.
I hope I’m right
Imagine saying vvd makes more of a difference at Liverpool then Messi does at Barcelona
people will realise how good messi is once he is gone
@@frontline8776 Look at barka now, they can't get out of groups lmfao
@@giga4485 it’s a sad situation. Hopefully they solve this issue very soon.
Fools are gonna say van dijk was more deserving🤣
These people talking about Messi's retirement are giving me an anxiety attack
@John Cornell If you whine loud enough, he just might do it now. Go for it.
@John Cornell I dont know why people talk about that liverpool lost. 4-0 4-0... He scored hat trick in the first leg and barca team was absolutely ridiculously bad. Messi had best rating of barca that game. If 10 other players and the tactics are underpeforming and you expect one player to save them its just stupid. And I havent heard anything about ronaldo unable to save juve from ajax. As I told I dont get this one game thing. And always when I see the little cr7 fanboys in the comment, i know i should just ignore them, i feel bad for them. They are blind for the truth and it makes me sad. Even tho there would be all the proof, they will still thinking, ronaldo is better. What a shame.
@John Cornell yea cool, I was talking it general if you understood
@John Cornell and due to the previous comment from you i cant belive that you are 50. It was a bit childish tbh.
this man just broke history ⚽️❤️
yeah this man just became the biggest fraud in history, robbed vvd
@@WILL-vi5gb bro stop being a baby
The guy you are drooling over VVD himself even said messi deserved it so what makes your opinion at all important
Funny you say that WILL because I remember when there was a true ROBBERY and it goes by the name of RIBBERY
didn’t you hear the interview with VVD?
Breana Mata typical Messi honestly
We watched Messi play, that will be a privilege we'll appreciate more in the years to come.
Its just a small gift to him from us football fans
Because what he does in pitch is unthinkable
GOAT
Can you imagine if Liverpool had Messi? Mane, Messi and Salah! Liverpool would go undefeated in the Prem.
@Cocho Calentano I reckon all three can touch 40+. Barcelona nearly did it with Messi, Suarez and Neymar. I think Neymar finished with 39 goals. Suarez under Messi had 59 goal year. Messi setting up Mo and Mane would easily all hit 30+
I’d rather VVD than Messi for Liverpool.
there was msn and they still managed to bottle the UCL.
@@donald4364 they won it tho...
E m e r s o n but still bottled it twice. Atletico and juventus. My point is that even right now they have better forwards than mane and salah. Salah. Now imagine before with msn
STEVIE OUT OF EXCUSES. HE DOESN"T KNOW WHAT TO SAY, HE WAS HIT WITH A GOOD QUESTION "WOULD BARCELONA WIN THE CL WITH VVD? AND WOULD LIVERPOOL WIN THE LEAGUE WITH MESSI? stevie was out of words to answer that
Exactly. Outragoues how ppl act agaisnt somebody they don't even know..like dude I'd be happy for you if you won something
Yes Barcelona might have won the UCL with Virgil and Liverpool might have won the league with Messi. But later is less probable coz Liverpool defense was shambolic before VVD but were great attacking wise
@All things are possible To those who believe it works both ways mate if Barcelona don't concede they only need to score 1 and you're telling me that this barca team is so bad that they can't score 1 goal a game in la liga. And also true if messi was at liverpool they would also have a great chance of winning the league but they would need to score 3-4 goals a game cause they couldnt defend a led.
@All things are possible To those who believe I get what you're saying but it's all hypothetical. We had a team in 14/15 that were going out and putting teams to the sword. 4-5 goals a game was the norm but we couldn't defend to save our lives until VVD came into the fold. We were 4th gave up 42 goals. VVD first full season 22 goals given up and only one loss in the league.
Messi lose Champions and still won ballon d'or ronaldo wins Champions in 2018 and lose.ballon 'd'or...
6:30 That hit hard. Wish he never left.
Steve: "i have no problem with Messi winning, but i think Van Dijk should have won" 😂
See you next year
Again again ballon d or
Lionel messi
I hope he wins 7 Ballon d'Or
Justin Choi 9
U are on drugs
@@kennefoma296 why?? Its possible
@B Liang Ronaldo had his worst ever yeat and still managed to get almost 500 votes
Kylian Mbappe has entered the chat. Please sit down.
Steve always is biased when it comes to Liverpool.messi deserve it old man 😎
definitely, after all he won a non-competitive league, scored less than Lewa, had the same per game stats as Mbappe, failed with Argentina, failed in the UCL, failed in the cup finals, Barca would have won the league without him.
and Van Dijk? - finished a season without being dribbled by, was a major factor in his team having the 2nd highest amount of points in Europe(10 over barca), won the UCL after winning Barca, won the Super Cup
definitely, Messi deserves it he scored way more goals than Van Dijk and the reason he really got is that he has way way more youtube highlights videos and Instagram followers. if it was based on football and common sense Messi would have been around 5th but its a prom queen contest and Messi is the most popular girl in school
@@bsman321 aaah sorry boss but Leroy Sane dribbled past him 'van Dijk" get your facts right.
Messi is a play maker we are all privileged to live in an era with a footballer like him,that liverpool boy his good but Messi his a goat.
@@bsman321 non competitive league...lol...valencia gives chelsea a run for their money...lol...sevilla kills man u..lol..barca beat liv 3-0 in first leg....and lewa scored more than messi...fucking messi won golden shoe...u know the meaning of golden shoe?
@@bsman321 get your facts straight before commenting bullshit
Ben Shoshani idiocy is a talent & you sure won the Ballon D’Or for that matter mate.
The last 30 secs made me cry
He will win his 7th again next year
hmingsanga hauhnar maybe
Messi truely deserve this year m very happy for him as a fan bt bt lawandoski had a greater chance for nxt year as compare to current performance bt i believe messi can do it either as he is still a geniuse
And vvd won’t even make top 10
@@lofytodo875 If Vvd wins the PL with LFC. he''ll be in the top 5, so will mane.
@@moazali-calisthenics2188 true because klopp formation makes them look too good but individualy so good,,,, i mean klopp made a player like henderson look good
Disgraceful that Ronaldo was 3rd, shouldn’t have even been top 5
Shameful that they put him ahead of mane. I know he’s a bigger star but I thought this award was about fairness
I agree, they did it to please him as much as possible knowing how much he would be angry that Messi passed him with this one. On the bright side, next year Messi will still be in the top 3 even if he doesn't win it. I can't even see Ronaldo being nominated at all given how poor he has been playing.
why? ronaldo was great
Mane, Lewandowski, Sterling, Bernardo ahead of him imo
WILL here again huh?
2019 season clearly belongs to Messi so he won ballon d or, wat is d fuss all about..if giving Luka modric ballon d or was right then why not Messi b awarded, don't know why Messi's achievement always questioned over others
Modric won off performances in the champions league that Real won, and croatia's performances at the world cup. Messi knows nothing about performances at a world cup hahahaha
@@mohitoBhau5499 and therefore he made Argentina reach World Cup final
@@bikrambhujel976 how many goals does he have at world cups? Just out of curiosity. Y'all are the blindest fans in sports.
Mohit Kalro messi carried Barcelona and Argentina soo why u man talking about
@@jehadislam1874 la liga is an absolute joke. He ain't carrying Argentina. He's a non factor these days. Why they not win anything? He's the guy responsible for Icardi not being in the team. Watch some premier league, you know, the hardest league in the world, to understand what Virgil contributed.
Imagine winning Ballon D'Or under valverde😂😂,messi is really the 🐐
And yeah people keep saying he can't win without xavi and iniesta,there you go now
They should just rename Ballon d’Or to Messi d’Or most rational thing to do rn😂🤷♂️
tajwuani grant sadly most of all the times ,it happens when a person retires or passed away and I called that BS!!By the way,In future it will be name about Messi or cristiano awards.
Lol, won one more than Ronaldo despite lst year's robbery ane still name the prize after him, such idiots shouldnt be allowed in society
shekhar thakran especially u and your mom:
tajwuani grant 😂👌🏻👌🏻
Steve chatting nonsense messi’s standards have ruined everyone’s perspectives, Messi should win it every year if it was fair
Don't know why they take him to be a pundit and comment in the first place..nonsense fellow!
You mean a player who's failed at every World Cup (and Copa) he's played in should win the title every year?
Seems legit.
Messi is better
Cbricklyne just from your response I know you’re the type of person who thinks ronaldo is better because he’s better looking
He's trying to be the Simon Cowell of the panel.
In 10 years he won 6 ballon d'ors. This is f*cking incredible.
I was fine with either
Congrats to Messi
Tough luck VVD
Instagram seems to be awfully quiet today 😂
The English media mate😂
@@michaelalexander9386 LoL Now I saw a lot of people calling him MESSIX and 6OAT
Ahahaha
"How to cheat and win UCL"-R Madrid
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@@videotrack9033
Wrong. Should be called Pauliano Maldinialdo instead. His block against Dybala's shot few days ago proved it.
Shaka is at home and cry loudly! hahaha
H. M. haha true mate
🤣🤣🤣
stroking his pele doll
Only thing on my mind right now was how Ronaldo came in third instead of Lewandowski.
Leo was amazing almost every game, he is so consistent he shines so much brighter than others he has faced or plays with. He won barca the league then to semis of the ucl final, of cdr, balling that hard needs recognition for real! He is the greatest!!
Alison was amazing almost every game. Most clean sheets in the prem. Winner champs league. Winner of the copa america. Knocking Messi out in both cups. It was more of a team thing in champs league but in the copa america it was all allision he faced 20+ shots from Argentina and Brazil had 4 they won 2-0. Got keeper of the tourney in the league champs league and copa america. Went home a hero in Brazil for is heroics in the semis and the final. On a personal level this year it's way above messi.
@@damian597 Alisson and Messi are unstoppable in 2019
@@damian597 allison could've been 2nd
After julien spoke and disprove Stevie whole argument Stevie had a mini seizure😂
Messi is the best thing that has ever happened to the soccer world. Hail messi!!! The goat.
Bs
Proper FOOTBALL World !!!!.
@Ricardo Lanzini Proper FOOTBALL!!!!!.
Man, even the haters will miss him when he's gone. Appreciate this man, you won't see another like him perhaps in your lifetime. Just hope he wins the 2022 world cup and Argentina's defense becomes good before the world cup !
Coming for seventh in november
Messi managed by poopy head
Van dijk managed by a legend
Poopy head was an understatement
But Liverpool also wouldn’t have won the champions league without Alisson Becker
Allison and players missing 3 clear cut chances created from messi is more reason than vvd performance in that anfield game with Allison vvd was bad in both games
And he beat Messi last year with roma.. Another terrible defeat
They also wouldn’t have won it without Koop. It’s a dumb argument. Messi deserved to win it. VVD has no chance.
@@LaMASIA-5611 koop? Messi is overrated...I don't care if vvd won or not..
@@thewonderofyou1 your an idiot if u think messi is overrated. If u dont care if vvd won and dont think messi should have won ...then who should have won? Overrated penaldo?
Let's talk about 6 baby!
But messi only has 2 ballon d'ors
marilyn mcvay he literally just once his 6th Balloon D’or lol not two
@@Crosby-uq8kh no he won the ballon d'or in 2009 and 2019. Messi has 4 fifa ballon d'ors.
@@AIfactos1 stop being technical lol a balon dors a balon dor
@@lewiyonas3255 its kind of different if the voting isn't the same.
Please Barcelona listen to me:
Get rid of Valverde. You have THE BEST PLAYER in the world. He will retire soon.
Done
Now the board which is very bad
Thank you for voting, well deserved 👏👏
Steve Nicol is always biased for Liverpool
Kinda like how ESPN is always biased and in awe over Spanish clubs
Shakeel Raja in awe? Well they have dominated the champions league for the past 10 years. Who wouldn’t be in awe
@@dbxriski1292 football didnt start or last for 10 years
Loftus Blake are you trying to be a moron?
He’s just biased towards anyone but Messi
The irritating thing about the Balon d'Or and just about every other individual award in football isn't who wins but rather the wildly different criteria that seem to be used every year. Some years it's about stats, others it's about storylines...
Exactly. It seems it’s inconsistent and can only go to Real Madrid and Barca players.
@@eldio2124 ronaldo and messi were on those teams. nobody is better than them in the wolrd that why madrid and barca won
Interesting fact is that without those statics just alone messi's playing styles put him at very top of as world-class player that's level of good he is.
Liverpool would have won every title with messi in their team
Messi greatest player ever
champions of europe you never sing that
Andi messi is a club footballer player, Ronald is the goat, Ronald from BRAZIL is the greatest player of all time ,cheers mate
@@gr7scott969 U can't really say that tbh, He was phenomenal but people make excuses that he would had been way better if he wasn't injured, Who knows what might have happened even if he wasn't injured, Brazilians really fast lose their forms tbh and are pretty injury prone
@@anonymousboiii_6934 don't mind him. Just wanted attention
@@gr7scott969 i am R9 fans, no messi is the greatest.cheers 😁
Sterling should’ve been way higher and Ronaldo should’ve been way lower, Mane should’ve been 3rd. 🐐 Messi
the gboat but his stats are mad
shaunbir klair so don’t say Messi deserved the award last year
Mane won the Premier League golden boot (shared with Salah and Aubameyang), won the Champions League, and led Senegal to the finals of the AFCON. Not to mention that Mane was completely unplayable at the right time when Liverpool was struggling to score goals near the knock out stages of the Champions League and down the stretch of the title race. Mane carried Liverpool for a very important stretch. Criminally underrated.
@@mathias7541 r u blind? When did he even mention that? Salty ronaldo fanboy ... I wonder how painful u might b seeing messi 6th ballon dor 😂😂😂
Wungramthing Luithui you Messi fanboys are the most hypocritical fanboys I’ve seen. Ronaldo got the MOST number of goals 2017-18 season club and country and won MORE trophies than everybody that season and carried Madrid in UCL with the most goals that season. When Messi was voted 5th, you fools were enraged when it was correct. But now you’re making fun of other fans for realizing the truth. Award is rigged and you know it
That ending statement was so good!!
THE GREATES OF ALL TIME, LOVE FROM INDONESIA ❤️
I believe someone will surpass his stats in the future(may be in the next century) . But I don't think anyone will be able to reach his level at playing the game. Pleasure to watch.
victor xyz123_xyz456 probably but in the next 10 years? I think we wont see someone as humble and good of a player like him for another 20-30 years
@@tsheringdorjee Humans dont evolve in a matter of decades or a single century. I don't think anyone will reach his level without being genetically modified at birth or be a cyborg.
Even Messi wouldn't have reached this level if medicine was lagging 30 years behind.
@@pepehimovic3135 can't control growth harmone deficiency, anyone can have it.
@@pepehimovic3135 actually he was always that good but he wouldn't be able to become pro football player if medicine was lagging 30ys behind. the treatment he was taking for his growth problem has nothing to do with his lvl of playing the game
@@arkana7111 Messi humble? lol
That old man former Liverpool player is out of argument. You talking about impact and you think Van made better impact than Messi??
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Gideon Boadi Kyere so I guess the champions league doesn’t count for anything anymore.
Liverpool 4 - 0 Barca thats all im saying
Gideon Boadi Kyere u defo haven’t watched Liverpool pre and post van dijk.
Gary u clearly haven’t seen the difference van dijk has made since he joined us either. We had the worst defence in the league before he joined, and now look at us. It is down to the whole defence, but he’s made it much better
@@Adz90 Sometimes I don't understand why people focus on VVD.. Allison was a bigger reason Liverpool has been better.. Liverpool would have won the UCL previous year if you just replace Karius with Allison..
Glad to have been a part of the 2 of the greatest legends in the game, but messsi is a different animal
Messi - forward
Van Dijk- defender
You can’t compare the two
Congratulations messi.. We always gat ur back bro 👌 🚀🚀
Only if Demebele scored that open goal at the end of the first leg, if so we wouldn’t be having this argument
ARO7 yeah and if Salah scored near the end it wouldn’t have mattered.
@@doesnotexist305 honestly I dont think so cos Dembele's chance was much better as it was only the goalie, but there were a few people on the line for Salah's chance
And only if Liverpool scored all there chances, Liverpool had a off night, Messi got a lucky rebound goal off the crossbar & punched Fabiano in the face got a free kick for it and cheated & moved the ball closer & scored a really good freekick not a Messi hater I love him, I just speak the truth.
@@billybob-fw3vr . Honestly I dont think you could actually put that as a "what if" situation as there really weren't any clear cut chances that really wouldn't have changed if they had the same opportunities again, but Dembele's opportunity was something that I dont even think ter Stegen would've messed up. And for Messi's lucky goal, your right, it was lucky, but it was also unlucky that they hit the crossbar to begin with. And also for the foul, that is a foul on Fabinho cos he forcefully kept Messi from making his run, plus ball was very close to the spot of the foul, if not, the ref would've said something.
ARO7 it wasn’t, I seen it on UA-cam. My point is both teams had chances they just Didn’t take them
They need to give more awards out for best goal keeper, best defender, best mid-fielder, best forward and best overall. That gives more incentive for each new comer and all positions to push themselves and compete even more in their respective roles. Instead of every year pretty much the obviously flashy forwards winning an award. Even though Messi and Ronaldo are great , but like football really needs to give other positions more props too.
Sensational decision on the ballon d’Or for MESSI and so well deserved! A great team player but as an individual player I truly believe that there will never ever be another like him! Also I heard that players like Mbappe’ and other young players are still developing.....let us all not forget the brilliance of Messi at the age of 19 and how he played for Barcelona!
Any argument on that is simply hatred. Messi 💯 deserve it
Ummm no
No, Van Dijk was million times better. Messi plays in the Spanish league where there is only 2 teams. Non-competitive league. Saw how Barca got destroyed by Liverpool ? :)
@@luvsuluvsu7645 pipe down Barcelona destroyed the best team in England (Manchester United) twice in a UCL final.
@@michaelalexander9386 You mean you are talking about Barca destroying the "then" English top team like almost 8 years ago for a 2019 prize award? urmm ok cool.
@@luvsuluvsu7645 your saying la Liga Is not competitive which is why Barcelona lost to Liverpool. what
Messi is the greatest 👑🐐🥳 thanks 😊
What do you mean, " virgil deserves it" messi carried barca when they needed him. I'm not saying that virgil is bad but he cant do what messi does. But tbh, I don't think Ronaldo should be 3rd, I think it should be mane because he has helped liverpool with most of their goals and not only that, he also have made liverpool better but I really think that messi deserves it.
In the end it all comes to what kind of skills you prefer and whitch team you support. Its all about a person’s perspective