Remote ID Error: Why It Happens & How To Fix It - PLUS Remote ID Now MANDATORY in EU
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
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The Remote ID Error can stop you flying. Literally. I explain when it happens and how to fix the Remote ID error so you can fly your Mini 4 Pro with the Plus Battery. Also, new drone rules are now in place in Europe and Remote ID is now mandatory in EU countries for many of the most popular models of drone.
Check your actual country's rules before flying; UAVCoach.com is a great help for this.
Henrik's video @TECHDRONEMEDIA
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If you're stuck with the Remote ID error, let me know! And if you're flying in an EU country, watch Henrik's video @Techdronemedia: ua-cam.com/video/3cc6xXVece0/v-deo.htmlsi=NsiyKVJyMCb6JTN8
Regarding EU rules, i should point out there's no such exception for drones under 250 gr in EASA's rules (the video you link to actually mentions this). The only excetpion seems to be in Open for drones that do not have category markings, which, to be fair, is often the case with "old" C0's. keep in mind, however, that while EASA regulations are in place, they won't be in effect in countries where they haven't been confirmed by the local national government yet, because it's each national airspace authority, not EASA, that enforces those rules. There's really no such thing as "EU rules" because each EU country can modify them, as many have already.
HI @@dorianarbos Not quite true, hence me making that point very clear. Henrik updated the link (copied below) to point to the EASA page that states "from 1st of January 2024 all drones marked C1, C2 and C3 and those operated in the specific category below 120m, will be required to operate with an active and updated remote identification (Remote ID)". It doesn't state C0 and it also goes on to confirm that legacy drones under 250 gms do not need Remote ID, so the standard Minis are definitely exempt. I take you point on the term 'EU Rules', however most EU countries base their rules on EASA, tightening them in some cases but rarely relaxing them, so if a country is basing their rules on EASA regulations, as most EU countries do now, then RID is mandatory.
Cheers, Ian www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/general-publications/drone-open-category-applicable-requirements-fly-1st-january
@@IaninLondon regarding the point about RID for C0, my bad: i missed the update.
Regarding the second point about "EU rules", all i want is to make sure people understand that, to fly anywhere in the EU, they have to check that country's national airspace authority. Forget EASA. While it's true those national authorities will follow EASA to a point, there's still pretty significant differences. Finland for example requires a pilot flying course for all drones, including C0 in Open. You won't find out anything about that anywhere in EASA's website. Germany REQUIRES liability insurance, while EASA says it's only recommended. In Portugal, you'll have to register your C0 drone, and get a license, but no mandatory insurance.
In my country, Spain, for Open C0 we don't require pilot license, drone registration or insurance for C0 Open, just pilot registration, but we're in the middle of updating the law with a new Royal Decree, and nobody really knows exactly what's gonna be in it, so until that's done we're operating by 2019 rules anyway.
And then there's another 23 EASA member states.
As you can see, the conditions in which a DJI Mini can fly in the EU are quite different from one country to another. Pointing to the EASA website, and failing to mention "but check with national aviation of the specific country" will only lead to a lot of disppointed users unable to fly their drones because they thought that checking that EASA website was enough.
@@dorianarbos Fair point; Belgium is a flat no-drone country altogether. I've updated the video notes with your point and linked to UAVCoach.com which I've found a very good site for localised country rules. Cheers
I've got a Mini3Pro with standard battery. All F/W is updated. Can ONLY get rid of the "Remote ID Error" message (preventing takeoff) if I connect my phone with the Fly App running to the Goggles 2 with a USB-C cable. I REALLY don't want to be tethered to my phone AND the Goggles 2 battery pack while flying. Haven't yet found a "work-around". Any ideas?
And the CAA tell us RID is a fantastic idea and will make our flights safer and more secure. Nothings more secure than keeping your drone on the ground, unable to take off 😂😂😂😂
Many thanks for this video Ian and at the moment making a video with my Mini 4 Pro using my Goggles Integra here in Spain, set up inside, no problems, normal battery, just gone outside to test take off and no problems. Going to watch Henrik's video on setting up Remote-ID. Many thanks for the info and a big Like from me
Great video Ian informative and to the point. Sadly it's becoming too complicated. 😢
Yes... 😔
I keep getting this remote ID error randomly. Usually when I need the drone the most. I use it for SWAT operations. Goggles 2, Avata, Controller 2. Phone connect. It makes no since when I can see in the goggles that 17 satellites are connected. Ridiculous. In the U.S.
This happens to me too. Wildlife Films....
oh man I'm having a big problem with my DJI MAVIC 3 CLASSIC, firmware up to date, but I don't see the REMOTE ID option in the DJI FLY App at all , not under ANY Menu.....I'm desperate because I need to enter the USA Operator registration Number into the DJI FLY App) I'll be flying the Drone in Greece in July), but I have no option for it, my phone is the Samsung 20S, I have allowed all permissions for the DJI FLY app on the phone but nothing, that Remote ID option is NOT visible, any ideas what may be? Do I need to be in EUROPE to see this option? Does the Drone need to be Airborne? DO I need to uninstalled the App and re-installed it again? I'm totally desperate....and I have no more ideas as to what to do....I have DJI FLY APP Version 1.13.2 running on Android...Samsung S20
DJI - Mini 4 Pro Fly More Combo Plus and RC 2 Remote Control "Remote ID ERROR" using plus battery and I also purchased the standard 249 batteries because I did not know that the Plus battery would put it over weight.
I think the only time I get the Remote ID error is when I use the Plus batteries but it still flies ok. I am in the USA.
Yes. As per this video 👍🏻👍🏻
So you need to be tracked by a government authority to play with your new Christmas toy. 1984.
not just the government but anyone from the public can track it with this remote id, bull.
@@rubengarciajr7560 use non plus batteries
Ian firstly Merry New 2024 from Oz 🙃
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I refer to the likes of your good self, previously mentioned (by you) Henrik, then 51 Drones Russ, "We're the Roberts" Kevin & Kristi, and Jake Sloan (Alaska).
There's others, but you guys are the ones I mainly follow. Oh and more recently "Knobby"?.
Take care, and again many thanks for all you do.
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Thanks for the good words! Yep, we're all settled in now; Ted is getting used to having a live badger set at the bottom of the garden now...... All the best for 2024!
As mentioned, the issue is DJI has implemented RID so that the pilot location must have an actively updated GPS fix throughout the flight. What they should do is just use the initial take-off fix as the pilot location. Think about it. That's exactly how it works if you purchase an external RID module. There is no active connection differentiating the drone take-off location from the pilot, nor actively updating the pilot's location & broadcasting it to the module during flight. This annoying issue is why I returned the Goggles 2 & purchased the Goggles Integra instead.
Seem to be a bit of a mess - thanks for the mention
Cheers Henrik! Chat soon :)
Thanks a million! I been trying to get the REMOTE ID ERROR to dissappear forever. I originally did the download off the playstore app for Android, it didn't work. Once I downloaded the GO FLY APP off the DJI Download Website I had no more problems with the remote Id error. Thanks again!
Phantom 4 V2, started to get an RID error today once i had 8 sats. Had been flying for an hour before hand, flew for hours a few days ago, no issues. Error appeared after a battery change. Swapped batteries, nope . Only went away when I swapped the android tablet i was using for my iPhone. I also connected the android tablet to a data connection to see if that cleared it up - nope. really odd.
Best fix is to not have remote ID all together
Mandatory to me means there to ignore...Great video as always..
Yeah, but you can't ignore it if it won't take off..... 😉
Top man! I dont use googles but my friends just got his avata, and he has no clue how to use it! Im showing him tomorrow. I'm glad i watched this video today!
Omgggggg this happened to me....couldn't arm wouldn't arm....I shut down then had to update 2 new firmware updates....that started update at 70٪.....smh.....I didn't try connecting my goggles 2 yet.....it's up and working fine now but it really had me concerned at first.....
You're working fine now though yes?
@@IaninLondon yes and no still get error until 1 satellite (gps)...also every time I try to arm safety features pop up to make sure props are going the write way and are screwed down....without an option to "don't show again"......Ian HELP.....lol
@@dizzydeanfpv45 that new safety pop-up should only show in the United States, but it also showing for everyone else, I think DJI working on a fix for that. As for getting the error until one satellite, well you definitely don't want to be flying until you've got at least 15. So hopefully you're good 🤠😉
What a complete faff ehh. Is it any wonder we are getting grey quicker 😮
Possible workarounds for some situations maybe.
1.Using the Litchi app
2. Using a VPN or is the security GPS based?
Just suggestions, it might be worth a try, remember Litchi has the new "Pilot" app for the mini 3 and 4.
If someone could test this it would be nice to know.
And the Integra goggles have GPS built in....
I live in the US, and have the Integra goggles, which have built in GPS. I still get RID error everytime I start up, it takes a few seconds for it to acquire all the SATS and than it goes away. And this regardless of whether I'm flying the Avata, Mini 4 Pro or the Air 3 with the Integra goggles and motion 2. Great video, thanks for sharing.
I think that may well be just a delay in the Integra goggles getting a proper GPS lock. As long as you can fly without the error permanently then I reckon you're good 👍🏻👍🏻
This has happened to me with my Air 2s, been broken for 4 days. Any solutions?
Using the standard controller, US. Does the drone have to be registered with the FAA? I've owned this thing for 3.5 years and it has never come up before until 3 days ago and now it won't go away. I can't even fly it without a phone plugged into the controller, it just won't get off the ground, motors won't even start. Also, DJI assistant 2 can't read the firmware on it.
Hey I’m still having problems
I just did a first brief test: M4P with Plus Battery and RC2 controller, Germany, outside the building. After the connection was established, the usual red notification appeared that using the Plus Battery is not compliant with C0 regulations (I opted this M4P out of C0, so this notification is useless). It disappeared after a fingertip. After getting a good GPS fix I started the drone to a height of about 1m and landed it again.
So the first important thing to know for me is, that I may also use the Plus Batteries with my M4P if I consider it to be safe and useful.
I suppose though, that a M4P which is still C0 will show a different behaviour, might be forced grounded.
I will test the Goggles 2 with MC2 another day if the weather is better, it's snowing right now and frosty air is rushing in from the east, winter is coming.
And before I forget, dear Ian, I wish you a happy new year and thank you for all your efforts. I highly appreciate your videos, especially the technical side, your analyzing of problems. Big help for the community for sure!
Thank you for the good words and for that scenario analysis. Yes, if you've strip the C0 label then you're good to fly with a plus battery but it will warn you each time. Thanks again and all the best for 2024 🤠👍🏻👍🏻
I use the plus battery in my "standard" mini 3 and have no issues at all, though i use the RC-N1 controller with an Android phone connected.
And that's why you're fine 👍🏻👍🏻. Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian I was wondering if you could answer a question for me I have the Mini 3 Pro and a couple of times that I gone out to fly, My RC Pro controller screen would say account login required it would not let my drone fly more than 50 metres away from me, I would then have to drive all the way back home log onto the internet for it to allow me to fly this has happened to me 3 different times why do I get this login notice required on my controller screen before it would let me fly???? 🙂👍Watching from Canada🙂
That's because you're fly app will stay in Beginners Mode and restrict the drone to 50m if you're not logged in. But it should stay logged in. Are you driving to an area that's out of cellphone signal? You can turn on your phone's hotspot, swipe down on the RC screen and join the phone's wi-fi hotspot and log in wherever you are flying.
K thanks so much Ian there was cell phone service where I was but I did not know how to make my cell phone a Hot Spot it was frustrating to have to drive 45 or 30 minutes back home to log onto the internet. For some unknown reason it is not staying logged in.@@IaninLondon 🙂🙂
Ian, I'm in the USA (Montana) and trying out the Google 2 and Motion Controller in my basement. I got the Remote ID error right off the bat. My iPhone was connected running the Fly App. It recognized I had an unlock GeoZone authorization, and asked to use it. I said Yes and it asked for my phone number, and sent me a code I had to enter in the Fly App which I had attached to the goggles. I flew around and landed. (Not real crazy about twisting my wrist to yaw). I then powered everything down, unplugged the phone and powered everything back up. Got the Remote Id error again, then plugged my phone it, and once my location was established the error went away and I was ready to fly (with no further dialogs to muddle through). Keep up the great and entertaining work! PS: I was using an extended battery.
Hey there.... yeah, sorry to say you will always get that error as the Goggles needs the Phone's GPS to broadcast your controller location. 2 options: 1 use the Integra goggles (has gps) or 2, use a standard battery when flying with the Goggles. Thanks
IaninLondon Thank you so much for this video. I plan on flying the Mini 4 Pro for the first time since the update today. I hope you are having fun in your new home. Happy 2024! Cheers, Brendan.
Cheers Brendan. Yep, just Great to be out in the garden without rain 🤠
I would like to point out that using mini 3 pro battery in your mini 4 pro will also put your drone over the 249 grams too. Would this mean you would get the remote I’d error too..?🤔
No, as it's programmed by the battery and the standard battery won't trigger it, even if it's a M3 battery in a M4. 👍🏻
I have had this error mini 4 Pro with standard battery. I unlinked, then relinked the goggles 2 and remote. Allowed me to take off, then did the same again, just a double bleep on remote. Turned off and turned on, and it worked. Seems to be an intermittent problem.
I am in the UK.
And are you just using the standard battery?
@@IaninLondon yes standard battery.
Mini 3 Pro, RCN1, standard battery, USA. Recently switched from iphone to Android for the RCN1. Grounded due to this error. All Android permissions set, everything updated. No go. Still works on iPhone. Pretty annoying.
Hello Ian thank you and congrats!
So a sub-250g mini 4 pro that has been upgraded to C1 also doen’t need to transmit RID? Or does the mini 4 pro do it automatically?
Thank you!
It will only broadcast RID if you're in the US or the EU and are using a Plus Extra battery.
@@IaninLondon thank you!
So buying a copy ali express plus batteries with avoid all this?
I too got the error as soon as paired my drone to the remote. I'm using the Mini 3 Pro with the RC & i used the +battery. No googles though. I was inside when I paired. After seeing your video, I switched batteries, went outside and tried to re-pair. same isses
Never again .
I can’t take off
I have been flying DJI drones in California for years. Girlfriend got me Avata combo for Christmas , spent 2 days getting Remote Id error and re flashing firmware. Never even got motors to start. Tech support said the were having a lot of problems with the latest Fly app. and to send it back for replacement. I guess 4 DJI drones is going to be all I own because I will never buy another DJI product. They have turned into a wet mess of software....cant even pick your nose while flying the new ones. no thanks.
If you're in CA then you will always get the Remote ID error unless you tether to your phone and run the Fly App on there too. Tech support should have told you that..... It's a real shame because time and time again, I've tried other brands but DJI come out on top each time; their hand is being forced by pointless regulations in different countries... That's the real issue here imho...
Thanks for your response. I use a 10 in tablet with no cell service Can't even fly the avata! I will just keep denying updates and keep my Mini SE and Air2s in the air. @@IaninLondon
Thanks Ian, good info. Trying to stay sane just to fly this drone. I am in the US, have a Mini4 with Plus Battery. Successfully linked (indoor) to Goggle 2, but took outside and got Remote ID error. Found your video but still foggy on what to do. Right now letting blood pressure settle before attempting to link outside as you suggested, but not clear if that will resolve. Do you have any specifics to help guide me? Thanks in advance...
Mini 4 will activate RID when you use the Plus battery. Only solution is to attach phone for GPS, as this video is about using it in the UK where RID isn't mandatory yet.... Alternatively use a standard battery if you're using the goggles and save the Plus battery when you're not using the Goggles
Take care and Happy New Year, Ian.
Thanks George! Hope Wisconsin weather is being kind to you this winter!
so what happens when you use the plus battery on the mini 4 pro after doing the relinking outside with the standard battery?
If you're not in the USA, it will know you're not and won't give you any errors, even with the Plus battery.
Cool thanks
Thank you
Good job I did not update the app or firmware as was happy with the way the drones flew and took video as they were, remote-id is definitely a no way man thing and for me that means no buying future products from DJI as they are not upfront about these restrictions and I, for one, don't care to advertise my location to every thief / trouble seeker in the area or where my drone flies. So unless you hack and jailbreak DJI products, they become useless bricks and pointless to waste money on them just to go to a location where there is no internet and that could be extra wasted money on travel etc, I mean no way. I trust the devices I built myself and the DJI products I have not updated as why? since they flew fine and did not need suspect update as turned out to be true as evidenced by yourself. Don't listen to Mandatory dictates of unelected people that put you at risk. I bet their drones don't have ID in Ukraine, since operators have removed it. Do the same here, dudes. If it happens in UK after you guys do the next updates it will mean every Karen in the area right or wrong will be on your case where ever you go just by looking on their app, think it over before updating.
I'm flying Mavic 3 Pro and have been dealing with this issue for about 18 months. HUGE PAIN IN THE ARSE. I'm in Missouri, USA and usually fly in very remote locations with no wifi or cell signals. So getting shut down for any reason is a HUGE problem. I absolutely HATE who ever is creating the mess. This morning, beautiful warm light, went out side the house to film a tractor in a field across the street.... NOPE>. Remote ID Error. I'm to get tshi solved today. and try to figure out a means of how I can stay out of trouble with DJI on this... Boiling over....
I think this happens if it hasn't connected with the internet for a month or so. So I think you won't have an issue if you power up and fky a bit and check for updates at home, where you have WiFi or cellphone signal. Do that before a trip out and you should be good 👍🏻👍🏻
You seem to be looking for a pronlem here. Just don't use those plus batteries and go fly.
And how do you know not to use those batteries? By this explainer.....