Smooth stops on a heavy bike and, turns from a stop.
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- In this video I'll answer the two most frequently asked questions. How to stop smoothly on a big bike and how to make a right turn from a stop.
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I'm 50 this year. Haven't owned motorcycles since I was a teen. I went right out and bought a heavyweight bagger. Found your channel right off. My fear level was a solid ten. Now, after a couple months, and over two thousand miles, my fear level is a four or five. We really appreciate you Sir.
Keep practicing and use those head and eyes!
@@flyingunicycle When I first got the Victory Crossroads and was riding in the city, when I HAD to make a sharp right I just looked where I wanted my front wheel to go, and that's where it would go. I'm really starting to learn the clutch and throttle. Soon I hope to add a little rear brake.
@@justingreen4450 keep at it. It gets easier and natural!
buy his video CD if you haven't yet! And no i don't get paid to endorse Jerry! :)
Ditto here. Bought my third Harley last august but hadn’t ridden in 23 years. Took it home, parked it for two weeks until I took a basic riders course again. These videos are icing on the cake.
"If you let that clutch out all the way as soon as you take off, your turn will be wide" I wish some said this to me years ago. Using the clutch as a clutch has transformed my riding ability.
Very useful tips as always, thank you. One thing I would add about stopping (from experience): never look down into the gauges, or even worse the front wheel while slowing down and stopping; look up and out while applying the brakes.
Good advice. Which is why I included that info in the above video.
Thanks Jerry, and I asked this not more than a couple of weeks ago- stopping. Thank you.
Key for me was make sure the bars aren’t turned- that can make your life horrible!! Haha. Additionally, I had to make a left turn, u-turn at a LE road closure with my 2016 FXSB- turned my head, and like magic that bike went just where I wanted it to go!!
You’re the best sir.
I’m a daily rider for 45 years, and have attended plenty of “high speed” courses. I bought your book and watch your channel, and have learned more about real world riding than any other book or program. When I retire next year I’m going to take an in-person class. Thank you!
I look forward to meeting you.
Thank you for that clip Jerry. I found that very useful. Turning I am O.K. My stopping has always been a little raged to say the least. Must say I find your videos invaluable.
Jerry your da man! You your videos are priceless and the humor, love it!!!
Thanks !!
Thanks 👍
You remind me of the Texas troopers I learned from. My father made me attend their class when I was 16. I was a very experienced dirt bike rider by then, but I had a lot to learn about street bikes. Best thing I ever did. Proper braking and clutch use were paramount to learn. I always use front and rear brakes when stopping and putting both feet down. I ride dressers 2 up. So safety is very important. Thanks for all the great tips. I've been riding for 50 years and still look to be a better rider.
Another fantastic video Jerry. Thank you. I am 55 years old and learn to ride a dirt bike when I was eight. I'm currently waiting for winter to be over so I can get on my recently-acquired Kawasaki Vulcan. Watching your videos has been tremendously helpful and has gotten me very excited to use all of your techniques. Thank you so much.
Hands down; you are the absolute best.
The biggest problem I found with my stops is not holding the back brake long enough and using too much front to bring the bike to a stop. I’m 5’ 9”, 140lbs. So I was always intimidated with not having my feet down quick enough. But I found it a lot better to almost stop with one foot down and the other on the back brake, and like jerry said, right before I came to a stop bring the other foot down. Great video, a good camera angle I think would be looking down at your right foot to give a visual of how fast the bike is moving when you bring your right foot down.
Thank you very much for all your lessons! Greetings from Ukraine!
"If you're a real Duffas!!!"... you always make my day Jerry. :-)
Looks like MotorMan got a new bike! Love that blue and white! Hope you're well Jerry. Great video as always.
Thanks 👍
Great video ,its good advice. I'm riding a rocket 3 and a vmax ,I know the pain of turning a heavy bike.
I have an issue at the bottom of my road.. It goes from straight to a left hand curve up hill to a stop sign. When I stop I'm on a hill. I haven't ridden in 6 years and I'm rusty. I get nervous but believe I need to keep left foot down and right foot on the break and follow thru as you have taught in this video..
Oh yeah I forgot the road I drive and come up to a stop sign and my right turn is on a 45 degree angle up hill. Right now I avoid that one and take a left and go home the long way.
Thank you for all your videos
I'm 60 years old out and riding in the hills of Western New York near the PA boarder
It sounds like you've yet to master the friction zone and the proper use of your head and eyes. I'd suggest the ''Ride Like a Pro Experience'' video. The best 20 bucks you'll ever spend on your motorcycle. Available at ridelikeapro.com
@@motorman857 working on that friction zone. Thank you
I've been riding bikes for 50 yrs and I always learn something from him.
Music to my ears! Never stop learning. When you think you know everything, stop riding!
Even for a lighter-weight bike, you might be okay with using just your left foot at a stop. With a passenger, though, put down both feet. Even if she's tiny and lightweight, the extra stability of two legs will keep her safer.
Exactly, just like wearing suspenders and a belt. Can't be too safe when you have a passenger.
I'm a new owner of a Chieftain and was terrified of the bike. I've been watching these videos and practicing in big empty parking lots
Feeling a lot better now. Still have a lot of practice to do but I do greatly appreciate these videos!
Glad to help
Jerry, first of all....I NEVER comment on YT videos, so take this as a compliment.
Secondly, is that The Ms.??,,,,"camera Girl"??....better known as Doc Donna standing on the corner at the 40 second mark??
If so, glad that her recovery is going well.😁
If not,,,then I still hope that her recovery is going well. Miss her in the videos. Hope she can come back soon. 😁😁
Thanks for all of the videos that you have done.
Yes it is, Donna's recovery will be about a year, per her Ortho doc's words. She's doing great though, daily PT and getting stronger every day.
I'm teaching my wife to ride (not sure if I'm being brave or just asking for trouble) and just last night we were talking about this very thing.
Just show her the videos Jerry sells where these women just dominate the bikes. Watching the 4'11" inexperienced girl riding after a few hours of training is mind boggling.
Get in the habit of applying the back brake when stopping. Use the front to slow you down then slowly release the front brake and use the back brake mostly. Practice this ALOT. Because when you have an aggressive stop you will have muscle memory and you will stop instead of going into a slid or dumping it from using only the front brake
I find it also helpful to keep the handlebars strait as you apply the front brake just before stopping. I have a sport bike and if you turn the wheel even slightly to either direction it tends to transfer the weight in that direction as well. Thanks for all the tips Jerry.
Yes, NEVER hit the front brake when the handlebars are turned when doing any slow speed stopping or turning.
Good stuff Sir. You mention briefly a rider at a 'svelt 250' with a larger spouse. Would you be interested in covering this topic in more detail. My wife is very concerned that she may not fit, and could cause me to drop the bike or wreck. Sage is so concerned she is very reluctant to even consider riding with me. Thank you Sir.
@jamesbarrett918 Not anymore, Donna sold it, :)
Some instructors say to only be on the rear brake as you come to the full stop and only put the left foot down…
Agreed you have to get used to using the rear break, amazing difference on stopping. You don't get that front end dive.
Please don't misunderstand. The rear brake helps control the bike at low speeds. The front brake has 80 to 90% of your stopping force. For the shortest stop, use both brakes.
Was that Camera Girl to your left? Great to see her back in action.
Excellent advice 👌
Quick question Jerry, I really enjoy watching your videos and I've learned a lot, hope to one day take a class with you. I'm a Deputy in Ga but would definitely ride down there to your class. I'm practicing my turns and U turns. I have an Indian Scout, but when I go to do a U Turn should I turn the handlebars at full lock to get as tight as I can all the time? I did the demo you showed to see the turning radius on my bike and it's about 16-17ft I believe but I get just that little worry about turning to full lock when I try to make my U Turns as short as possible. Thank you sir if you get a chance to answer this. Keep up the great videos!
Turning full lock should only be thought of as a practice exercises. If you are running the police course with exercises at 18ft, you might occasionally hit full lock but with proper tire placement even in that course, you should only hit full lock for a split second.
@@motorman857 Thank you sir, I greatly appreciate your response and I will continue to work on my slow speed turns with the tips I've learned from watching all the UA-cam videos you have. I've been trying to watch them all and I learn more and more each time I watch one. Really hope one day to come to FL and take a class from you. Keep up the great videos and God Bless y'all.
Jerry, several years ago in my MSF course they taught this technique, I've been watching you teach this technique over these years and have enjoyed your videos and instructions. I use this when coming to a stop. There is another individual that teaches REAR brake only under 15 or 20 mph, and zero front brakes, I've tried this numerous times, my stops SUCK utilizing rear break only. my current bike is a '18 RoadGlide. idk, I guess I was confused or misunderstood the differences in these two stopping techniques..Personally I'm sticking with MSF and your techniques...Thank you..
Light pressure on the rear brake is used for low speed turns along with the friction zone and head and eyes. Never use the front brake while making low speed turns and maneuvers. Do yourself a favor and get my Ride Like a Pro Experience, video and get the correct information in the correct order. available at ridelikeapro.com the best 20 bucks you'll ever spend. There's a lot of bad and harmful info on the internet and even in the comment section under my video's from people who really have no clue what they are talking about. I usually delete the bad info comments but some can slip thru.
1000 percent! Ge Ride Like a Pro, like the Man says the best 20 bucks you'll ever spend
Best advise out there without a doubt. Took a beginner MSF course to learn to ride at Henderson Harley-Davidson and this is some of the stuff you learn. Number 1 is the friction zone and then smooth and even progressive braking utilizing the front and rear brakes for maximum control of the motorcycle. Cool side note is one of the instructors , the most enthusiastic one in my opinion, is a retired moto officer and all of the MSF coaches know and admire Mr. Palladino. I hope one day Ride Like a Pro will have a presence in the Las Vegas valley. Definitely will make a point to be there should you visit Las Vegas.
Great tip on my biggest problem. Slip the clutch on a right turn from a stop. I was fully engaging it too soon and it was sending me out too wide.
Thank You!
I do a lot of group rides where we ride staggered. Staying in your lane has a double meaning. Not only do you have to stay out of the oncoming lane, you must stay in your half of the lane you are in. Because a couple bike lengths behind, another rider is turning with you.
Your tips have been very helpful, as a fairly new returning rider, (solo) I find day rides and short trips very enjoyable, more so with a few riders, sometimes adding a rider to the group can be stressful, sometimes I see the police out on training, I would like to know what you teach them about riding in a group, to keep them safe from each other while keeping the group together, thanks for what you do.
Donna and I ride in our our group and only with riders that have the same skill level and we trust them. When riders get into these huge group rides, you can bet at every single one of them, there are crashes due to novice riders being thrown into the pack that shouldn't be there. Know the skill set of the riders in your group, it makes for a great day of riding.
@@motorman857 I quit riding for 30 years missed it and bought a motorcycle, always kept my motorcycle endorsement one of the first things I did was take it to a large parking lot and practice low speed maneuvers, until I got comfortable with it, at that time I had a friend to ride with, he moved away,
So I started looking for others to ride with, when I was a young Rider I wasn't aware of any courses and there was no Internet, I learned to ride by riding,
Road riding mostly alone,
There must be a set of rules for riding with a group, where would I find them? FYI I bought a decommissioned road king police.
Here in the UK we are taught slow speed skills before we are let loose on the public roads.
The same here in the U.S. the problem is they train you on little toy bikes. Then the students go out and buy a 600 to 900lb bike and find it's a whole new ballgame.
The sooner folks learn and understand that the friction zone is your friend and you’re not going to burn up your clutch, the better off riders will be. Especially if you have a wet clutch.
850lb bike...I think my first car weighed less. I kind of enjoyed my FXRS and Superglide, but just...no! Been riding for 40yrs and just never understood huge motorcycles. Maybe I'll find a used OCC clown bike and give it another shot....lol. Awsome informational video though.
Thank you!
Don't care what anyone says,to stop a heavy bike use TWO fingers on the brake lever and then its real easy to feather front brakes to a smooth stop. I only use back brake to hold the bike there while I'm stopped cause I only put left foot down. If you have two big people I'd use two feet. My bikes a 2020 Vmax(only about 700 lbs) but it will work no matter how heavy. You'll be surprised how easy it is to stop smoothly with your index and middle fingers. Try it,you won't be uneasy anymore.
Which size (height) windshield do recommend for Harley’s with the fiberglass bat wing front cowling as on an Electra Glide? Great job on your videos, they are appreciated. Thanks for your time.
For the last few meters, using only the rear brake will make the stop smooth.
It does But then you can only drop left foot. He’s suggesting both feet down to stabilize the heavy bike
@@gtate135 With practice it's working great.
thanks Jerry! I ride 2 up 100% of the time. your advice to keep your head up at stops is an invaluable piece of advice on a bike this heavy. I never had any problems on my lighter, 700lb bike, but the Ultra limited, with a passenger can be tricky if you aren't paying attention! my wife has commented before about rough stops which usually happen after a long day of riding and in heavy city traffic. I agree with her and need to concentrate on my stopping as well, I appreciate your videos
@@Gismo3333 pretty sure i didn't make ANY excuses. I took ownership of my concentration level and my occasional poor stopping habits and i noted when i notice it the most, City driving with stop and go traffic. I didn't blame the traffic, i blamed me. That being said, an 8 hour 375 mile ride in 100 degree heat in New Mexico can tax any rider. I've been riding 45 years and this bike is top heavy and heavier than any bike I've ever owned but thanks for your advice though
Pay no mind to that guy. He has no clue what he's talking about. I removed his post for that reason.
@@motorman857 lol thank you. not sure where he was coming from, but your advice is GOLD!
I highly suggest to sign up for one of Jerry's courses. There are many places to take a course, just go to his website to find one near you.
Also, it's worth the investment to buy his videos courses until you can make it to taking a live course.
Is like an instrument, practice, practice, practice gets you where you wish to be.
I usually finish the stop on the rear break and only put left foot down.
Thanks Jerry. I've been riding for many and have had the same problem. Great advice.
I believe maybe some riders "over think" the slow smooth stop. Possibly a confidence issue? Sort the confidence out and the rest will fall into place. Cheers everyone 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 😁🇳🇿🏴🇬🇧
I feel uneasy when the front of my bike dips during stops. Is this something I have to get used to or am I just being a dufus with my fr. brake pressure?
You're being a doofus.
Good vid, Jerry. Maybe for your next one, discuss threshold braking...
I heard from others.. don't use front brake when stopping under 10 to 8 mph..very confused now
I'm 63 1/2yo. Traded my Softtail for a Street Glide 8/5/23. Whole new dynamic for me. Took a while to get used to and even took my vacation on it. But I never had any issues with coming to a smooth stop or making turns. Although I did take my turns slower in the beginning then i did on my Heritage. I loved my new bike so much I took it on vacation and put almost 1300 miles on it. But anyway, I liked this video and hopefully I'll get to see a few more. Keep doing what you're doing sir. Great job.
Put a progressive monotube suspension in the front and you’ll be amazed.
There's no big secret; just practice, practice, and practice some more.✌🏽
I agree 100% but you may be overlooking something! I'll bet he has a bike that really doesn't fit him and he's leaning slightly to one side to be able to put his foot down causing an unbalanced load at stop!! I have short legs 28" inseam and short arms but long body! I always had this problem when stopping until I finally realized I was just going to have to bite the bullet and get a bike that had a ride height I could safely handle not necessarily the bike I wanted but one that met my needs! Plus I have to have handlebars that have more pullback and not as wide as most riders want!! I am 5'10" but my legs and arms are more like someone 5'6"!
I'm 5'6 with a 25" inseam. I'm on a Star Stratoliner that probably has 27" or so seat height (slightly higher since adding an Ultimate Mid-Rider seat). I can't flat foot the bike. However, I'm extremely comfortable stopping the bike with both brakes, but when coming to a stop, I release the FRONT brake, and complete my stop with the rear brake. Left-foot down only. Even on uneven or slanted surfaces, I might have to shift slightly in the seat, but I do this always. Holding the bike still and upright like a tripod. The only reason anyone should have trouble with this is if they don't look ahead and plan their stops. In my experience, it's much easier to control the bike and come to a smooth stop with your right foot than it is with your right hand. Plus it eliminates the risk of panic-grabbing the front brake at the wrong time.
@@zstackgo well...he stated he was having trouble keeping the bike upright with a passenger at a stop as well. I know from my own experience that a passenger throws the weight balance off even further meaning you have to be able to flatfoot your bike to maintain proper balance & control. There are exceptions of course but a lot of people down play fitment for cool factor and end up regretting it or getting out of riding or even injuring themselves or others!
@@jackedwards7420 As long as the bike is vertical, weight does not play a part. But yes, if your passenger tends to move around, you have to be cognizant of that and adjust for it.
So you think standing on one foot is more stable than standing on 2 feet? Really?
@@motorman857 in the context of bringing a 900+ lb motorcycle to a stop, and keeping it steady at that stop, yes 100%. We've already established that a little pressure on the rear brake helps control the bike at low speeds. So why release that control right as you're about to stop? I'm not suggesting that the bike gets LEANED onto the left leg. The bike itself is holding its own weight on the two wheels. My left leg is simply making sure the bike stays upright (instead of my arms trying to do that, which is what happens when both feet go to the ground... don't believe me? Try letting go completely of the handlebars with both feet on the ground). I'm also not saying to never put both feet down. But I can tell you that unless I feel my bike tipping over to the right, I rarely put my right foot down. My left hand is almost always on the bars with the clutch pulled in (I almost always leave it in first gear when stopped, for many reasons). When both feet go down, it feels like I lose the feel of the weight of the bike in my legs. With one leg down, I have much better FEEL of the weight, and any balance shifts are immediately noticed... unlike when my arms are trying to keep the bike upright.
Officer, I tried mounting from the right using the footboard and me and the bike went right over on the right side. My feet were off of the ground and I couldn't stop the fall. I'm 6'3" tall and weigh 280 so I am certain the weight is an issue. The police mount looked smooth and there was no way to drag my foot across the saddlebags on my HDFXS. I can easily mount flat footed from the ground. What was I thinking?
I keep my right foot on the brake when stopped.. Even with female on the back. I also keep clutch in and pay attention to my rearview for possible rear end crashes. It can be tiring riding with my strict disciplined habits but I can't change and I know I'm doing it correctly
i had the same problem coming from a sport bike directly to a road glide. I do use both brakes but when I get down to 5mph I use the rear only as it creates better balance. i have now also mastered the front brake being very delicate a very low speeds but I find it easier just to use the rear brake whenever I'm below 5mph.
My wife & I watched a "Harley rider" duck walking up to a gas pump _using his front brake while turning._ He jolted to a stop and nearly dumped his huge, expensive dresser and his passenger. It took all his might to pull it back upright. It was kinda pathetic.
I'm surprised that so many instruction videos show bikers only putting one foot down at stops. To me, even doing that while riding alone seems unsteady. Why wouldn't you put both feet down at a stop?
I have never heard the term 'friction zone' until today, when I started watching your videos. Can you please tell me what the term means. Thank you.
Great videos !
One thing about a passenger when stopping....they need to STAY STILL!!!! When I'm below 15 mph all the way to a stop, my wife knows to be absolutely still at all times. Even while waiting on the light to change. When we pull out and I grab 2nd gear, she can stand on her head and dance if she wants to, doesn't bother me in the least. Having a passenger moving around while trying to stop is problematic, and I see this all the time when we ride.
Jerry, I have a question for you please. Just was out on my '06 Electra glide and was practicing slow speed maneuvers in a vacant parking lot. Probably did 20 or 30 figure 8's, tight turns, all using your teachings. On the last turn, I headed for the exit and pulled up to the road,....NO REAR BRAKE! Pedal went right to infinity an beyond! Quick moment of panic, stopped using front brake. The rear brake function returned, I headed for home ever so cautiously. Didn't happen again. Checked reservoir and fluid level was right up there. What happened?
You were using too much pressure on your rear brake. It happens to some of the riders at my classes. I have them pull over, turn the bike off and allow the brake fluid to cool down, the rear brake comes back. You control your motorcycle with your clutch and throttle. When you're making slow, tight turns, you should have light pressure on your rear brake as it helps stabilize the bike. Once you get really good with the 3 techniques, eliminate the rear brake the next time you practice and you'll see that it's all clutch/throttle head and eyes. Out on the street, always apply light pressure on your rear brake while making Uturns, especially if you have a passenger on back.
@@motorman857 Thanks for the reply Jerry! Keep up the excellent instruction, from one UA-cam creator to another! Much appreciated, and yes, I was probably using too much pressure on the rear brake. That's just to help you get the feel of the friction zone and gives you a bit of stability and a 'fudge factor' until you master the skills as I know understand. I get it now and next time out I'll lay off the brake more.
Thanks!
I saw a video today we’re a guy was at the dragon, him and his wife fell over because he got there and turned his front wheel before he put his kickstand down the bike fell over!!
Hehe yes, I went on a harley test ride , I had fatbob and the two in front of me man and a woman two up on a streetglide.
I was behind them and we came up to a round about in the right hand lane, and i stopped smooth and fast behind them seeing the car close coming towards us on the round about, but the two Infront of me on the street glide, hit the brakes and he had no idea how to synchronize his feet down onto the road in emergency brake let alone two up stopping and the bike fell over into the left lane and they both fell came off the bike.
They were doofus's, they had no idea how to stop smooth or fast.
Huge damage and repair bill.
Yeah people need to learn the skills.
Hi Jerry! I live in the mountains and am just learning to ride. I'm having trouble staying steady when stopping at the bottom of a hill. Same principles apply?
Yes. Be sure to keep your head and eyes up when coming to a stop and don't snatch, stomp. or grab either brake. Squeeeeeeze.
@@motorman857 thank you! I'm doing more than 1 thing wrong, but at least I know how to correct them now.
Hello Jerry. I really appreciate the tips. Just bought a 2009 Road King, and your instruction will help me get used to it before taking my wife for rides.
Hmmm i heard from someone that you should end your stopping with a rear brake only... Just before you stop you should release your front brake. It will make your bike more stable ... what are your thoughts about it? tnx and love your channel
On a heavy bike, especially with a passenger, my method is safest. 2 feet is more stable than 1 foot.
I Was picking up my bike from my local dealership today after a rear tire change and three hole service. This weekend happens to be the weekend of the biggest rally in the state. I couldn’t believe the number of riders I saw come through that couldn’t make decent turns and low speed maneuvers.
You're getting better with your information as you get older.( Thanks) ps love your work.
Got it thank you my Motorman 😎
Your Videos Good 👍🏼
No problem 👍
Thank you!
I was wondering what your opinion is on having, "APE," bars on a motorcycle? How does it affect the handling, especially at low speeds? Would you ever want to ride with, "APE," bars? What would you recommend height wise for, "APE," bars? 🐵
Ape hangers will make all low speed maneuvers more difficult. Therefore, don't follow this trend. Just like the giant front wheel fad, why go thru an expense that's only going to make handling worse and more difficult.
Maybe that rider should not take passengers on until his skills improve , blaming his wife’s weight ? I am glad you have set that straight , their skills need to improve .
No doubt about it, though, a passenger changes the center of gravity upward, and a heavy passenger all the more so. Good thing he didn't use the emailer's name--his wife wouldn't appreciate the remark.
This is AWESOME content! I have a different question though. Just yesterday I was following 2 motor patrol officers and observed that they consistently drove side by side in their lane. They changed lanes SxS, they cornered intersections SxS, they came to stops SxS.....etc. Is this something they teach and practice at motor officer school? is it still a recommended practice? I see so many videos that say "Don't EVER do that". Since your retired Motor LE maybe you could shed some light here.... Thanks
Yes riding side by side is still taught in motor school. Why? Because the brass believes it looks good to the public. Of course, riding side by side can be dangerous. I don't recommend it.
Always enjoy your videos Jerry thank you. Is this braking technique specifically for two up ? I follow another excellent riding coach by the name of Robert Simmons a retired nypd motor officer who stresses using only rear brake for last few feet before stop but 99% of his videos are solo riders. Thanks
As I stated in the above video, you can stop using the rear brake only. But, the best practice is to get in the habit of using both brakes. I see people in my class trying to stop with rear brake only, and they wind up with very sloppy stops. By the way, Robert Simmons is one of my students.
@@motorman857 no wonder he's so good 😆
I've seen the tip over a few times. Usually, the rider comes to a stop sign and does a "California roll and go" stop, but just as he is about turn, he sees a car coming and jams on the front brake with the front tire turned. Boom, down he goes. If there are a few guys riding and they come to a stop sign, they do that roll and go stop, but one of the guys loses his courage, then cognitive dissonance sets in and he does the stop instead of the roll and go. The guy behind him was expecting a roll and go, so he has to jam on his brakes and he turns his front tire to miss his buddy in front of him and boom down he goes. A lot of riders make the mistake of not coming to a complete stop, and follow the Tips you give...
@@Gismo3333 It is a California term for an incomplete stop at a stop sign. But, yes, you could say they blow through a stop sign. They do slow down before not stopping, that is why it is called, "A California roll and go." They roll up to the sign, then go right through it without stopping. It is a common practice out here in CA...
@@ababbit7461 Same here in NYC in fact some people skip the slow down part .
If you can't stop smoothly! You shouldn't have a passenger!
Haha! If she falls off you aren’t gonna hear the end of it... 🤣👌
This happened a few days ago 2008 Electric Glide coming to a stop front rear brake had the handle bars turned slightly the bike wanted to fall over slipped on the gravel went down i do feel like a dope . I have done something before but this time the ground beat the shit out of me. I a m seventy good shape I am really depressed HELP ME MY STOPING HSS ALWAYS SUCKED YOUR INPUT WOULD REALLY HELP ME
The most important thing in stopping straight is "target fixation". Focus on something far down the road and don't move your head and eyes until the bike is stopped.
“If youre a real doofus maybe 15 minutes”🤣🤣🤣
Jerry, if you're looking for some new subject matter, how about a video on the best ways to mount, demount your motorcycle. Same with a passenger. It's gotten really hard for me to balance the bike while my wife climbs on and off. Some say leave the bike on the side stand and let the passenger climb on, then righten the bike. Many different ideas on how to approach a passenger getting on and off a heavy bike. What's your approach?
Another great video Jerry. You are one funny man! Thanks
I'm hearing 2 different things, some say use the back brake to finish the stop with the right foot up not 2 feet down. I like your way better, gives me more control with 2 feet down .
It can be done both ways. But the easiest and safest way is what I described in this video. I can bring my bike to a complete stop with the handlebars at full lock using front brake only. But I would never advise this way of stopping since there's no reason to stop in that manner and learning to do so will cause many bike drops before you get it right. I can also run the entire police course one handed but it's just a stunt that won't help anyone in real world riding so I don't teach it and I advise against anyone even trying it. ua-cam.com/video/Iyx9oedxOlo/v-deo.html
@@motorman857 I've got ZERO business disagreeing with you, but in this case, in my (admittedly little) experience, my results are the complete opposite. I feel like I have LESS control with both feet reaching for the ground while simultaneously trying to control the throttle, friction zone, steering, and front brake with just my two hands. Using the rear brake to complete my stop frees up my hands to do the important bits: keep the bike upright and straight. Even when completely stopped, I feel much more in control of my bike with my foot on the brake, in 1st gear, left foot planted, ready to start up again under any circumstance, especially if that circumstance involves an immediate "getaway" from an "almost" stop. But like most things, it's as much about how one learns, and what one's bike/body are comfortable with.
Ass in the saddle, engine RPM to slow and like you said rear 70 percent or so, front 30 in the end and don't turn the wheel or look down, and stop over thinking it!
Love your videos! Just Curious, You’re in Florida where the palm trees?
There's 6 of them just in my front yard.
Thanks Moto Man! Great tips, they make a big difference in controlling the bike
Thanks buddy very good video great instructions have a great night
he probly didn't here the end of buying her a tred mill 4 her birthday
2 feet hit the ground? Most instructors say to use the left foot. Front brake 'til the end? Most instructors say to use the rear brake for the last few yards or so - which also means that it'll be the left foot which reaches the ground at the stop.
SO - why the difference?
Thank you!
Thank you my friend! Always good sound advice.
Thanks Motorman. Every day, every ride, things you can practice to make you a better rider.
How do I back up a 2019 road king, and not dropping the motorcycle; any tip will help greatly, I am 5 7 , 172 lbs, thanks
One video I really would like to see is how to control an emergency stop in wet conditions, twice I've had to do it, both times the front suspension bottomed out, then the front wheel locked then it juddered to a halt
It sounds like you did the exact opposite of what I explained in this video. If the front suspension bottomed out, you snatched and or grabbed the front brake, instead of squeezing it. What I demonstrated in this video WORKS IN WET OR DRY conditions. As I stated in the above video, with 10 minutes of practice, you should have this down pat. 15 minutes if you're a doofus.
@@motorman857 Thanks for that will concentrate on that in the nearby car park
I'm usually in 2nd halfway through the turn and no issue with keeping it tight? Am I missing something?
I can stop with no feet down for 5 solid seconds before I finally place feet on the ground
I was told moto cops always come to a stop putting only their left foot down never both feet down. Is there some truth in this? Thank you
Yes, at Motor training we came to a stop with left foot down, right foot on the rear brake.
Any chance you can do a trike video, TriGlide style? What skills transfer, which ones don't, and which ones actively work against you (if any).
My total time on a trike is 15 minutes 10 years ago. Since I know nothing about them I can't give any trike advice.
@@motorman857 No worries. I thank you for the reply all the same. :)
Thank's for great video. Dropping the bike is one of my main fears when coming to a stop or even having to make a slow speed maneuver.
Hey Kevin. I think there is one more important technique that will help with your fear of dropping your bike in a slow speed maneuver. At the 1:44 mark Jerry says "It's as simple at that" . I have to respectfully disagree. His friction zone advice is great, but he doesn't mention upper body lean. Look at the 1:50 mark where he is still in the beginning of the turn, but look especially at the beginning of this video where he is doing tight figure eights. His upper body (specifically the spine) is leaning in the opposite direction of the bike lean. This is very important for stable, confident low speed turns. No need to move your bum around on the seat or anything like that, but opposing upper body lean vs. bike lean should really help your confidence in low speed turns. I think if you practice in a safe area you'll start to get a feel for how much opposing lean is "just right". There comes a point where the speed of the bike in the turn along with the turn radius, etc. results in the most natural upper body lean being in line with the bike and as speed increases you lean your upper body in the same direction as the bike, but with more lean than the bike. I don't know why it seems that so few instructors teach this. I don't think it is an intentional oversight, but it is obvious that all good riders and instructors do an opposing upper body lean on slow speed turns and maneuvers. Once I realized this I stopped dreading those right hand turns from a stop light. Easy peasy now. Staying in the friction zone is critical too just like Jerry said. Cheers.
We need a limited edition Motor Man harley davidson!
They already have one. It's called a police bike.