The argument about Tao helping the old women with groceries was hilarious. Sorry Ash but Hannah was right. In that scene Walt is seeing that Tao isn't such a bad kid. At that point he isn't helping her because of anything he learned from Walt. He's just a kind person.
I think Walt was able to see that Tao at his core is a real good kid but his cousins tried to influence him, what Walt wanted from Tao was to be a man and absolutely refuse to be tossed around.
I think Ash was just focusing on the fact that he knew that Eastwood's character was going to be positive influence in Tao's life he mistook (or prejudged) the reason why. They get to kow each other... Hannah said it. Great movie.
Lmao such a ridiculous point to even argue. How could Tao have learned anything from Walt at that point in the movie? They had like 2 encounters and had spoken like 10 words to each other. Ash pretty much just jumped the gun on plot development.
It gets annoying after a while sometimes when he is SO wrong SO often on some films. This was one of them. Also. SYMBOLISM! Jk no symbolism, but it is in every movie apparently. Edit: Holy hell he is relentlessly more stupid as he goes.
I caught myself telling my 32 pound cat that Hannah was right more than once. :-) In my opinion Walt was teaching him what a true grown up person should do without necessarily even being asked. Loving the reaction.
@@belladoran222 i mean no he wasn't wrong. The kid was nice, but clint did teach the kid confidance to just go out and do shit. He taught the kid to be a man,,be respectful and help your neighbors. So ash was right in this instance.
@@Killercoldice22Not at all, Clint was never kind to his neighbors, he never helped anyone or let himself be helped, he was hateful, and just as Clint taught the boy to be brave, the boy taught Clint to be respectful and kind, not to judge. Without knowing the people, Clint learned more about the boy without realizing it, Hanna was right.
Walts confession to the priest was to absolve the priest of his promise. His real confession for absolution for Korea was to Tao, complete with the mesh screen between them.
My partner at the time pointed that at to me and it’s def something that initially went over my head. Such a lovely detail that gives me further appreciation for a film I already loved
Wow! Saw the thing for Tao, but Walt wanted to fulfill his wife's final wishes and allow the priest to keep his promise. I missed that but it makes sense!
Well I don't know about EVERY, but ya ur right in the case of this one :) I mean after like the 40th time he said "you don't have to get offended blah blah" jeez dude give it a rest lol it really isn't what this movie is about at its core bro :)
@@ericschmidt5510 No ash was 100 percent right. He wasn't even saying that was the core of the movie, he explained it perfectly. If you instantly get offended with someone and put a wall up. All dialogue is lost, you never learn, and you never teach someone. Ash was right in this case. That young girl joked and didn't put up with his shit and invited him over to dinner even after he said insulting shit. She accepted the old man and changed him. So in this case ash was pretty spot on. The 2 cultures accepted ejother even with the insults they threw.
@@Killercoldice22 She didn't change him, lol. He was never really racist. Didn't you learn from the interaction with the barber? It's a generational thing. This is how we created the American melting pot. We learn about other cultures through humor. She should have answered his "don't eat my dog" with a joke about Polish sausage, but I guess they thought it would make she look "racist", lol.
Ash, you missed the biggest symbol ever at the end of the movie. Walt sacrificed his life to save the life of others. When he was shot, he fell on to his back, feet together, arms outstretched like the crucified Christ. I don't doubt for a second that was completely intentional.
Hannah is a savant when it comes to movie plots and reading the messages being told and has a great understanding of human emotion. Ash has all the SYMBOLISMS THO.
@@Roar_Restored I wouldn’t say he’s reaching either he just views the narrative in a way that relates to him as an individual and Hannah sees the narrative as it relates to the directors vision. Take it easy on my boy Ash he’s my Homeboy, my pal, my rotten soldier, my sweet cheese, he’s my good time boy.
Savant? No. Both are sensitive. Both would do well to learn from each other when they BOTH are wrong. He can help her go deeper in understanding, if she is humble and open to it. She can help him not run past dynamics at play when they are significant to the narrative. IF...they want to grow individually and together, the potential is available in each other's strengths. God bless them with Grace and Wisdom and Love.
Such a sad movie. Walt sacrificed everything to make Thau a better person without having experience the horrors of killing someone, to make sure he has a normal life.
@Shaine White Following Ash's worldwide Symbolisms Tour 2022, maybe Eastwood is also saying "Walt'etypes" are dying off, people like him who remember global horrors, seal a deal with some spit and a handshake -- they are disappearing like dinosaurs struggling to cope with a changing climate.
What did Walt actually sacrifice? A few months of slow and painful death? He knew he was dying, he chose to give that death meaning, and he did, in a spectacular way. He gave up a few months of remaining life and took years of life from all those gang members. What a trade! I would make it in a heartbeat, to do that much good at so little cost.
Hannah always nails the people and their thoughts and feelings. Ash is more of a guy who understands but action films. I know we're always looking for the symbolisms but sometimes they're very subtle. Hannah definitely has the market on understanding that.
Thao helping the lady with the groceries was not the influence of Walt. The scene shows Walt reconsider what type of person Thao actually is. Up to that point Walt’s entire opinion of Thao was based solely on the fact he tried to steal Walt’s car. Well that and Walt’s inherent racism.
I don't agree Walt is racist at all. His words and actions aren't compatible. In the storyline of the movie he reconciles that but still speaks "racist" af. "Racist" af fuck to someone completely ignorant of how people interact. There's the barber shop scene and many at thao's house that you should have second guessed that long ago.
@@MrMancreatedgod please stop interjecting your own head cannon and carefully read what I wrote again.. Say it out loud to yourself if you find it better for comprehension. Then stop and try to point out exactly where I said or implied the movie wasnt about Walt or that Walt did not change his perspective or that Walt had any influence at all on Thao helping the lady with her groceries. If the matter between your ears still has normal function you'll realize nothing you "disagreed with" was actually stated or implied to begin with.
@WatchEuropaTheLastBattle I mean don’t take my word for it, my argument is backed by interviews with people involved in the film from Eastwood to the screenwriter to the producer. He is written as an “unrepentant racist” that through his interactions with the Hmung family begins to see people beyond their skin color. “Unrepentant racist” is in quotations because that’s the term used by the producer. The screenwriter(the guy who wrote the character) also describes Walt as someone who see all people of a different color as the same, specifically Asians. So maybe if you want to direct the childish “muH racism” around how about direct it at the people who made the film.
One thing you might of missed, Walt was super smart in how he set the gang up. They killed an UNARMED decorated veteran, that carries an EXTRA harsh sentence in the federal courts. Every one of them is going away for life, or the death penalty depending on the state. He insured they would never plague Sue & Thao again with his sacrifice. 😢
FUUUUUUUUCK...I knew they'd get charged but thought "eh...sentences always get reduced" but the unarmed veteran bit really does change stuff. Great analysis.
Walt and Thao do both learn from each other. Yes Walt taught Thao confidence and how to stand up for himself, and to assert himself and allowed a rough gem to shine. But Thao also showed Walt that not everyone in the younger generation is spoiled and lazy, he gave Walt hope for the future.
ASH was 100% correct on this, this movie has nothing to do with the "Evolution" of Walt. It was about Walt finding friends in the least expected place & those friend's bringing a purpose to Walt's life. Walt spoke in a way that a lot of younger people today cant understand & he spoke that way to everyone including his friends & it had nothing to do with being a racist which is proven by his ACTIONS. Even to the end he was talking the same way. Being able to speak like that shows your not weak minded & you want be offended or controlled by WORDS because WORDS are not that important & ACTIONS are what you should judge a person by. Its like the old saying "Actions Speak Louder Than Words" & as far as the name calling & trash talk thats just humor to get a good laugh. Feelings & Words are not reality. If I had a flat tire & some guy stopped to help I wouldn't care what he called me because his actions with helping me is what defines him. Some people have different ways of communicating & its the intolerant Leftist that try to DEMAND you speak like they want you to & act like there feelings are more important than yours. The way Leftist act has nothing to do with being sensitive to people being offended cause the way they act is offensive in its self. Personally I don't care how they act its the way they demand you bow to there wishes & emotional fragility that bs. I was taught the old saying "Sticks & Stones maty break my Bones but Words can Never hurt me" theory which people should adopt today. If people would chill and stop being selfishly offended we'd have a lot less problems today. If someone says something you don't like IGNORE IT or GIVE IT BACK TO THEM but choosing to be offended & cancel them is childish. Again with these speech police Leftist its has nothing to do with wanting to be sensitive to others feelings, its all about there feelings & trying to force you to speak a certain way. They are frauds & shouldn't be taken serious.
He made sure to stand on the curb, of their property so they couldn't call it a justified killing with him trespassing and made sure they all got sent away for 1st degree murder. He was already dead basically with cancer so instead of letting Tao mess up his whole life he sacrificed himself and set Tao up with a clean slate to live his life without the gang breathing down his neck. This is such a great movie, Clint nails it again!
Thao was a decent kid. But he was weak and ready to drift into the clutches of the gang. He needed the no nonsense father figure of Walt to steer him onto the right path. Sue instinctively understood Walt. She brought that shaman over to read Walt because she herself sensed these things about Walt and he needed to hear it. Walt was on a journey of redemption since committing terrible things in Korea. His wife helped him along the way, but he needed to go through a great suffering to reach his final redemption, which was sacrificing himself. The idiocy of cancel culture would have us reduce Walt to the sum of all the racial slurs he threw at people. The racial slurs were a shield he put on to hide and protect his heart. The Gran Torino was a symbol of his overflowing heart that could only come out with his great personal sacrifice. Before his sacrifice his heart like the Gran Torino was locked away, unused....
That’s beautiful man. I agree. If the only thing they took from the film was “racial slurs are bad,” then the point of the film flew right over their head. Which wouldn’t have been so bad, except that their head was so firmly up their rectal cavity they wouldn’t have seen it anyway.
@snootybaronet - You're spot on about the lunacy and reductionist idiocy of Cancel Culture which this film deftly dismantles. But, you missed how Walt already "unlocked" the Gran Torino when offering it to Toad for his date with Yum Yum. Walt's heart was already beginning to flow: He was happy manning the BBQ, with all those beautiful women, and enjoying his new family. His heart wasn't completely locked away, it was already opening.
As Thao is driving his Gran Torino away at the end, you hear the outro theme with lyrics and music written by Clint Eastwood, sung by pianist Jamie Cullen. ** And yea Ash you were dead wrong about Thao's reaction to helping with the broken bag of groceries. Movies show, they rarely tell; Helping the woman shows us the core decency of Thao -- he's redeemable.
@@L4ftyOne That's a great start that you can now recognize basic categories of performing arts -- keep up the momentum bruv, maybe a musical or play next? You got this. Keep us in the loop, FeelsweirdMan
@@OriginalPuro And that last period goes INSIDE the quotes btw ;) Just looks better. Heh, I'm guessing you're also dogmatically orthodox on some other laughable "Nevers" like ending sentences with prepositions and splitting infinitives. Not everybody gets it.
An interesting scene is at Walt's funeral, you see the two families. The left and right pews are split between them. On one side is his blood family, the family that doesn't respect him much, is almost empty, with a scatter of friends and family. The other side has his adopted family up front in their traditional dress of their culture and the community that respected him, full to the brim with people showing their love for him. It is a very touching scene that goes over looked. Fun reaction, as always. Keep up the great work. You two are a fun and lovely couple.
lol, Hannah has so much patience, I've never seen Captain Symbolism read a film so badly .. twice. The interaction was, as usual, epic. Loads of fun as ever. Love you guys!
Interesting fact is that Walt is Polish . Kowalski is a polish name and actually he has very much polish character. My granddad, who fought in WWII was very similar: harsh, not so much open minded and u had to earn his respsect by actin with honor, pride and hard work ect. I see Kowalski in many old polish people who lived in times of war. They are just tough people bc they lived in tough times.
I live in the Metro Detroit area, where there is a large Polish-American population, most notably Hamtramck (although maybe not as much nowadays cuz of other immigrants moving to the area)... my best friend's family is of Polish descent and seeing as this film takes place in Highland Park (also in Metro Detroit), it doesn't surprise me that Walt is Polish
This movie always brings me to tears. My Dudda (grandfather) had his own building firm and I never asked him teach me. It's the one thing I wish I could go back and change.
Clint Eastwood was in a military plane crash, off the coast of California in 1951 one night, when he was 21 years old in the military. He survived for a ways in a life raft, until he was thrown from it. Then he swam the rest of the way to shore, fighting the waves and undertow. I read that he probably wouldn't have been the movie star that we know today, had he not crashed and survived. He was apparently about to be militarily shipped off somewhere, but that crash kept that from happening.
Clint Eastwood is a 1 take man. his philosophy is "why use many take when one take do trick". It's a good movie, the acting is clearly horrible in this movie, but the direction is actually terrible.
I was raised by my grandfather who served in Vietnam. My parents were both either MIA on drugs somewhere or incarcerated my entire childhood. He died a few months before this movie came out. I had to leave the theater because everything reminded me of him. To the world he was a persnickety old grumpy coot that hated “that shitty boom bumpin garbage music”- as he called it. But he was always loving, caring, and most of protective, over me. He would tell Jehovas Witnesses “Merry Christmas” before shooting them the bird if they ever knocked on his door 😂 A few of the many things he taught me: -how to change my cars oil -how to change a flat - how to grow a good garden -how to build a proper fire -firearm safety, and constantly took me shooting because he said I was a great shot and loved to bond with me over a Sunday afternoon skeet-shoot in the field behind our house -how to hunt, track, and field dress a deer (skinning and gutting it and removing the edible meat….we live in a very rural area where hunting is a way of life) -how to fish and clean your catch -how to use a chainsaw if I ever needed to -how to identify the native plants where we live so I knew what poison oak looked like and what plants were toxic to pets ….that’s merely a few of the countless things he taught me. The reason he taught me everything he knew was because he wanted to make sure that I could survive and thrive on my own in this world without having to rely on anyone else to keep me safe. He wanted me to find a good husband, but he didn’t want me to be “one of those helpless women who needed a man for everything”. I eventually found a great man, who is now my husband, but I am teaching my children all of the things my papaw taught me. Not only because I want them to be capable of taking care of themselves if something ever happened to my husband and myself, but also because I want them to have a wealth of knowledge and experience nature and truly appreciate all the small things. To everyone else, my papaw was just like Clint in this movie- a grumpy old man who was set in his ways…but to me, my papaw was a legend. The last of a dying breed who stood up for others and never compromised in his beliefs and worked hard for everything they had. He was the definition of a true patriot and a real man.
What's the recent one that he did? Not even sure if it's even out. I just remember seeing the pics of him on a horse. Which was a sight, considering that he's in his 90's now.
The Priest is one of my favourite characters in the film, I see him as how Walter's wife was and the beliefs she held when she was alive, the fact he is persistent on learning about Walt and helping Walt through his struggles are the things his wife probably did when they first started dating, and the fact Walt even says he went to church only because of her, you can see how if it was anyone else with those beliefs he wouldn't pay them any attention or openly mock them, other than his wife his soft spot. His wife knew nothing of war and the horrors he endured just like the Priest but still was there to help and learn just like the Priest, I see the Priest as a representation of Walter being met with his wife again, figuratively speaking, he is meeting with what is essentially her, her beliefs and ideals and thought structure are mirrored in the Priest and the discussions with Walter, only we get what Walter would truly say and not brush it down or try and change the subject.
I think the film could have done a bit better in highlighting the impact Walt had on the priest. Maybe in another edit it did but I think the priest grew quite a bit in maturity because of Walt. Fantastic dynamic and contrast between the two characters.
that is a beautiful sentiment and I never looked at it that way before. very nice thoughts, will look at the Priest differently next time I watch this. thank you
I think Walt was entirely right about the priest in the beginning of the film. But that is the genius of the script. Whether you like religion or hate it you feel like the script agreed with you. It was a little of both. It was just the opinions of characters who seemed like real people. It wasn't authoritative. It wasn't shoving any views in your face. That Hollywood has stopped doing this is why it's dying. Now it tells people what to think. I'm a free man and I would die before I let anyone tell me what to think. That isn't living.
But why would a man like Walt, want to engage with this young, male, religiously motivated stranger who is not on the same level as his life long wife? Buttinski needs to butt out.
Honestly, both of you guys are right about Walt and Thao needing each other. Thao lost his father and that's where Walt came in. Walt helped Thao to become a man. Walt's influence gave Thao backbone, confidence, work ethic and responsibility. And Thao helped Walt lighten up. Walt was estranged from his family and Thao (and his family) sort of filled that void. Thao's influence made Walt happier, less grouchy, slightly less racist and smiled more. While admittedly Walt helped Thao out more, they both did a lot for each other.
You two are amazing. I was having a horrible day and watching you watch one of my favorite movies made me feel so much better. I agree with everything you were saying and your energy together was great and funny. I’m going to see what else you got. Cheers
It's amazing to think that this movie came out 14 years ago, and that Clint is still with us in 2022. He was born in 1930. Nearly a decade before WW2. I'd like to see the latest movie that he did, but I'm unsure if it's out yet.. I saw the photos of him on the horse, at the age of 91-92.
its called CRY MACHO & pretty good basic story and even tho Clint was 90 he was able to do a few scenes on a horse. Nice touching ending to with him finding peace
@@RustyB453 You must not know what a decade is, its a ten year span. So Guts is correct, he was born just about a decade (9 years so 1 year short of a decade) before WWII started.
@@Gutslinger Guts I don't think he was correcting you for being months off or even 1 year off, I think he doesn't know that a decade is t0 years. Probably thinks its 100 years but that is of course a century.
Hannah was kind of right about how Walt and Tao had a give and take relationship with what they taught each other. And similarly Ash was on the money about just getting through people's wall by just not getting offended, so points to both of you. The reason why some of the dialog was kind of clunky was because Eastwood refused the actors that were provided to him and instead took the ones you see here since they were actually the right ethnicity and age range. They were amateurs but he took them anyway. For your next movie, I will once again suggest Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium or Holes. Both are fantastic movies that are meant for kids, but are still good for mature audiences.
Ash really missed the mark about Tao, while Hannah was spot-on. But both of you missed Clint saying, "How 'bout that", as he watched Tao help the old lady.
I love how Ash totally missed the symbolism of the screen door ‘confession’ to Tao. Tao represents the Korean kid he killed in the war. And the great sadness and shame that he has felt ever since. The confession to the priest was to fulfill his wife’s wish.
Great reaction. Hannah correcting Ash when he misinterpret's something is priceless This movie makes me think of my grandfather. 1913-2013 He was very intimidating but also kind. He was a hard working man. A farmer, mechanic, father and more. I loved going into his workshop full of tools/equipment and learning how to use them. His shop smelled like sawdust, motor oil and aftershave. He would help me repair my car into his 90's. He was a tough old guy. He was my hero growing up. I have the 1950's radio he used in his shop. It still works.
I remember watching this for the first time with my family in our TV room in the basement. It was a sunny day but there were only a few small windows down there so it was pretty dark with just a few small rays of light coming through. When the movie ended we all just sat there quietly for awhile... thinking. I couldn't help but think the lighting in my basement was a perfect symbolism for the plot of this fantastic film. There is a lot of dark in this world and bad things happen to good, innocent people. But there are rays of light, there are people who will stand up (and even sacrifice themself) for the good of others. Even if that person is flawed themself. Walt sacrificed himself so Thao wouldn't have to kill someone, and lose that piece of you that vanishes when you take a life (however justified you are). Such a moving story. Great reaction as always Ash and Hannah, love from New York!
I don't know about anyone else. But this whole movie my hand was in my palm every time Ash thought he was explaining something correctly and it was actually Hannah's explanation that was correct.
She seemed pretty lost on the most basic things in the Lord of the Rings movies for example, constantly misunderstand things, missing stuff by not looking at the screen and Ash having to remind her to look, or Ash having to explain a scene for her although he was watching it for the first time as well. It could be a genre-specific thing lol. But yeah, in this movie Hannah seemed to have a way better understanding of the plot. Ash made some good points still, rather towards things outside the movie though lol.
Walt is fearless The man survived a war He's not afraid of sh*t He's old and he's lived his life He has nothing left to lose That's a man with whom you do not want to f*ck
My dad was a marine.. Born in 1949 Vietnam vet I was born in 87 and honestly I've watched this movie at least 12 times but watching you guys debate Walt's character actually helped me understand my father a Lil better
I think this has become my favorite reaction channel. Ash and Hannah..... YOU ROCK. Also! Clint Eastwood is what we down in the south like to call "a mans man". Men the stature of the characters he plays are what built the western world.
Walt knew he was dying, so he decided to go out on his own terms and make sure his death had some meaning, saving the lives and futures for his new friends.
Hannah is mainly right about things in this movie. I do agree with Ash that we do need more actions than sweet words and this is where Walt comes in. He's a very good man inside.
Your conversation on a good movie like this is always demanding full attention from me. Great work. It also giving me some hope in people when I see that some of the current young generation can find appreciation and understanding about the basics of life.
Ash pretty much hit the nail on the head. It's called "meeting people where they are at." You can't change people in a single moment. Sometimes you have to take people as they are FIRST, and THEN you can help them grow.
And id just like to point out thinking you can "help someone grow" might be the most arrogant thing ive ever heard. Ive noticed many people who are eager to "help people grow" are quite immature themselves and just trying to mold you into something they personally find more pleasant. Their intent is always selfish and never to make the world better for anyone but themselves.
That's you operating under your own assumption that you need to change anyone in the first place. How do you know that someone else needs to change and not the other way around?
That ending shocked me. I didn't know he was gonna go. The fact that he didn't kill them. The fact that Thao's Sister Sue was violated made me cry and that Thao and his family were helpless to save her from the gang/family members. The fact that their own blood relative would do such a disgusting thing pissed me off. If I was Walt I would have burned their place and popped them all for what they did to Thao and Sue. His sacrifice too like a god damn. I hate how the granddaughter was smiling for the Gran Tarino during the Will reading, like her grandfather was just gunned down and all you care about is a stupid car which you didn't even earned or prove your own worth to drive it.
Well they would have a worse faith when they go for life i prison (maybe even the death penalty depending where this is) but these guys are gonna become someone's b*tch in prison with all the murders not to mention that if they get charged with what they did to sue they would also be sex offenders meaning the other prisoners might kill them for it...
21:59 Thank You, Hannah! Tao was a sweet natured kid from the beginning of the film, he just needed some *guidance* from an older male figure 💯👍🏾🎬🍿 You’re RIGHT!!!
I have been weirdly obsessed with watching reactions to this very powerful film lately and had to tell you I've enjoyed yours the most. I really liked seeing Hannah's predictions because aside from a couple of wrong guesses in the beginning, and later on a premonition something bad was about to happen to the car (unfortunately what happened was much worse) your predictions were very spot on. And I too agree with Hannah about Tao's kind nature, which was not a result of meeting Walt and perhaps a result of growing up surrounded by women, one of whom quite old, so when he saw the older lady needing help, he was quick to assist her. The ending is especially shocking if you've seen a lot of Clint's many films first because at the end of them he almost always rides off into the sunset in one way or the other, then the credits roll and creepy music plays. This almost felt like he was ending his film career and I suspect at one point that may have been his intent. He must have found more scripts he really likes because he's made more movies since.
Ash that's a Priest, not a Pastor, a Priest spends his whole life dedicated to the church. A Pastor is just someone who studies the Bible and teaches what they've learned
@@MaxMustermann-ze1iv Don’t thank him; he gave you completely wrong information. There are Christian communities with less formal organization and hierarchy than Roman Catholicism, some of them have shockingly low requirements for their leadership roles, and some of those under-qualified church leaders are called “pastor”, but all of that has little to do with the definition of “pastor” or how that role is distinct from “priest”. Being a pastor means to be responsible for the spiritual life of the members of a particular Christian community - to be the shepherd of that flock. “Pastor” is a defined role in the Roman Catholic Church, where it means to be the priest with overall responsibility for a parish. Many parishes only have a single priest who is also the pastor of that parish. In parishes that are too large to be adequately ministered to by a single priest, there will be additional priests who assist the parish’s pastor. In other words, a Catholic pastor is a priest, and not some kind of less qualified or less credentialed person. In fact, the pastor is the one assigned by the bishop to be responsible for the whole parish, so a priest who is not a pastor would typically be in the inferior or subordinate role, not the other way around
Walt and Thau both had to change to become closer- in viewpoint, understanding and fraternity. Walt became softer/pliant and Thau became stronger/resilient. Both were caught between 2 cultures. For Walt it was old vs new and for Thau it was East vs West. Both needed wisdom. Wisdom comes not from age, but from learning from your experience. There's the ol' saying: "There's no fool, like an ol' fool." 😮 I am blessed to have older friends and younger friends. I learn from both.😊
It's his Korean War gun, which was also used in WWII, so you are kind of right. It is an M1 Garand, chambered in 30-06 Springfield cartridges. Patton called it "the greatest battle implement ever devised."
Hey, Ash and Hannah, I am so happy that you reacted to Gran Torino. This was the first time a major Hollywood production featured my Hmong people in supporting and significant roles. Despite some inaccuracies, it introduced the world to who the Hmong are. I took my parents and aunt and uncle to see it on the big screen, and everyone loved it. My mom wanted the bad guys killed, but my dad understood Walt’s sacrifices. FYI, Ahney Her, the actress portraying Sue (Thao’s sister), played a prisoner in Batman v Superman, officially making the Hmong exist in the DCEU because her line was spoken in the Hmong dialect, lol.
He pulled an M1 Garand rifle. This rifle was used as the main battle rifle in WW2 and most of the Korean war. It shoots a .30-06 cartridge with usually a 160 grain full metal jacket bullet. Deadly to 800 yards.
I'm definitely a bit more on Hannah's side here. Clearly, at this point in life, Tao needs someone like Walt, with a moral compass to instill confidence in him and so on. But in any case, Walt also needs Tao. Actually funny that you guys got into a discussion about this right after the movie showed how much Walt needs Tao too. Namely, as someone, Walt can be a father figure for (which he couldn't with his sons) but also as someone who will back him down (when he wants to bust his back on the stairs) and as someone who also teaches Walt a different culture. Because Walt is just as triggered at the simple sight of another culture in his neighborhood, as the most sensitive snowflake. Even before he has anything to do with them. The simple sight is enough. So maybe everyone needs a Walt, but also a Tao. Good movie.
If I could just say one thing, although you guys butted heads on the issues of Tao vs Walts in the world, you're both just different sides of the same coin. You're both right. It requires coming together, the taos and the walts to balance each other out. This movie teaches that the older generations need to have an active part in the generative process of teaching young people, and that young people need to show respect and also have an active part in the interaction. Really do love your channel guys, been coming here for months now and I hope you continue to grow as a channel and I wish you all the luck in the world.
Hannah has it spot on. Their relationship is a balance. They need Walt to be the firm, immovable wall and he needs them to give him the affection that he received from his wife and will never get from his own kids.
Walt is one of the most human characters I have ever seen. The complexity of people is so much that you cannot limit yourself to judging someone right off the bat. The "Ogres" often hide a tender heart under their harsh manners and an inordinate fondness for outbursts. I also think that this film slaps those of us who have lived in this era of what is known as "political correctness" and invites us to question ourselves. This attitude that implies never offending with words or comments is no guarantee so that people stop thinking in ways that we consider reprehensible, rather it can feed prejudice in silence and lead us to something else but hypocrisy. Here in this film, Eastwood demonstrates how the armor can be rough, but it can remain just that: a skin, something only exterior that cracks with little. It is always said that what defines a man is not his words, but his actions. And, in film scripts, this is said even more, as an unbreakable rule.
Yes, it says that prejudice is superficial, and being able to offend and take offence passively and accept people for who they are in spite of that offence is how you move past that, because speaking the truth is more important than protecting people's feelings, and it's a sign of respect for someone that you tell them the truth under the assumption that they aren't too weak to handle hearing it.
You are right Ash, that is Clint Eastwood's son Scott Eastwood ,and Scott Eastwood was also in Fury as the guy standing behind Brad Pitt eating as Brad Pitt was making Norman shoot the German in the back.
For a man who didn't like church, Walt Kowalski was the embodiment of John 15:13 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Old Clint judged without reason before his time, and when he saw that the boy crossed the street to help the lady he realized how wrong he was with him, Hanna was right, that boy was already like that, Clint was not kind. with the unknown people and the boy yes, Clint learned so much from the boy.
Love the connection Walt creates with Tao and the priest; relationships he regretted not making with his two sons. He realizes his sons have grown into their own lives so it's too late to repair. Because Tao and the priest are young and starting their lives, he's able to build those bonds before he dies. Also, the theme of cause/effect. Our actions/interactions now shape the future of our lives and our communities.
Lots of lessons in this one and once again Clint Eastwood masterfully applies screenwriting 101 principles in his movies. From the beginning, the main character or "hero" exhibited flaws and presented a conflict in the early part of the movie. Every scene contributed to the plot, but they gave the viewer options to ponder on subsequent scenes without giving them away. On the human side, he shows us how meaningless racial/ethnic insults are compared to one's actions. It shows how devastating loneliness can be when someone has lost the love of their life and their own family seems like strangers. It shows the depth of regret and inner conflict of a combat veteran. And lastly, it shows the compassion and selflessness of a man willing to sacrifice his own life for some people he had come to love as an adopted family. Well done, Mr. Eastwood.
Great reaction to a great movie, and you're so right, people are way too sensitive these days, it seems everyone is so easily offended. Clint Eastwood is a National Treasure!
I like how Ash takes things he gets a laugh but knows how serious the situation is. Ash has good taste because I think Hanah is a wonderful woman she has a good personality and a caring nature,big heart and she is beautiful I think she is a keeper.
My dad who passed away, used to be fan of Eastwood's movies, so this movie is so meaningful to me because, it reminds me of the movies my dad and I used to watch together. I apologize if I got emotional.
Ash my boy, you both have amazing reactions, but a huge part of this movie is how people DO need others like Tao. A Tao in your life keeps your ego in check, makes you question yourself to become a better person!
I disagree, Tao is a wimp and Walt helped him on his way to becoming a standup guy. Tao and his family helped Walt grow too but Ash was spot on about the world needing Walt's more than Tao's. Modern day we have been brainwashed to be weak and Walt is a strong man.
Clint Eastwood smokes in all his movies but he is a lifelong nonsmoker. Even back when it wasn’t frowned upon. He’s only ever done it for his acting roles. An absolute legend
38:13 "He's buying him tools. This is good, this is so good" - Hannah. "Oh no" - Ash "No. This is bad" - Hannah This movie really takes you on a ride. Love your reactions together, please keep up the amazing content. Love you two.
The argument about Tao helping the old women with groceries was hilarious. Sorry Ash but Hannah was right. In that scene Walt is seeing that Tao isn't such a bad kid. At that point he isn't helping her because of anything he learned from Walt. He's just a kind person.
That's almost exactly what I was about to say
I think Walt was able to see that Tao at his core is a real good kid but his cousins tried to influence him, what Walt wanted from Tao was to be a man and absolutely refuse to be tossed around.
I think Ash was just focusing on the fact that he knew that Eastwood's character was going to be positive influence in Tao's life he mistook (or prejudged) the reason why. They get to kow each other... Hannah said it. Great movie.
Lmao such a ridiculous point to even argue. How could Tao have learned anything from Walt at that point in the movie? They had like 2 encounters and had spoken like 10 words to each other. Ash pretty much just jumped the gun on plot development.
@@kennyclocks5047 Bro, it was more than just 2 encounters 😆. And Ash is right about Thao needing Walt
So much fun watching Ash being SO confidently incorrect about the plot. Every time 😂
It gets annoying after a while sometimes when he is SO wrong SO often on some films. This was one of them. Also. SYMBOLISM! Jk no symbolism, but it is in every movie apparently. Edit: Holy hell he is relentlessly more stupid as he goes.
I'll roll with that 👍
I caught myself telling my 32 pound cat that Hannah was right more than once. :-) In my opinion Walt was teaching him what a true grown up person should do without necessarily even being asked. Loving the reaction.
@@belladoran222 i mean no he wasn't wrong. The kid was nice, but clint did teach the kid confidance to just go out and do shit. He taught the kid to be a man,,be respectful and help your neighbors. So ash was right in this instance.
@@Killercoldice22Not at all, Clint was never kind to his neighbors, he never helped anyone or let himself be helped, he was hateful, and just as Clint taught the boy to be brave, the boy taught Clint to be respectful and kind, not to judge. Without knowing the people, Clint learned more about the boy without realizing it, Hanna was right.
Walts confession to the priest was to absolve the priest of his promise. His real confession for absolution for Korea was to Tao, complete with the mesh screen between them.
OMG, that is an awesome catch. It feels so obvious now but I did not catch that at all. It is beautiful.
My partner at the time pointed that at to me and it’s def something that initially went over my head. Such a lovely detail that gives me further appreciation for a film I already loved
great point!
Oh my... that went right over my head. And I is smart. Nice catch.
Wow! Saw the thing for Tao, but Walt wanted to fulfill his wife's final wishes and allow the priest to keep his promise. I missed that but it makes sense!
I love how Hannah always gets it and ash is confidently wrong literally every movie😂
Well I don't know about EVERY, but ya ur right in the case of this one :) I mean after like the 40th time he said "you don't have to get offended blah blah" jeez dude give it a rest lol it really isn't what this movie is about at its core bro :)
Well, except for when Hannah thought Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield might be bailiffs. (At the *beginning* of the movie, of course.)
@@ericschmidt5510 No ash was 100 percent right. He wasn't even saying that was the core of the movie, he explained it perfectly. If you instantly get offended with someone and put a wall up. All dialogue is lost, you never learn, and you never teach someone. Ash was right in this case. That young girl joked and didn't put up with his shit and invited him over to dinner even after he said insulting shit. She accepted the old man and changed him. So in this case ash was pretty spot on. The 2 cultures accepted ejother even with the insults they threw.
@@Killercoldice22 She didn't change him, lol. He was never really racist. Didn't you learn from the interaction with the barber?
It's a generational thing. This is how we created the American melting pot. We learn about other cultures through humor. She should have answered his "don't eat my dog" with a joke about Polish sausage, but I guess they thought it would make she look "racist", lol.
I'm like Dude you messing up the movie and making all guys' look bad ...🙄😂😎
Ash, you missed the biggest symbol ever at the end of the movie. Walt sacrificed his life to save the life of others. When he was shot, he fell on to his back, feet together, arms outstretched like the crucified Christ. I don't doubt for a second that was completely intentional.
Clint Eastwood was born in 1930 and is 92 years old right now! What a career of movies and directing! Amazing!
Hannah is a savant when it comes to movie plots and reading the messages being told and has a great understanding of human emotion. Ash has all the SYMBOLISMS THO.
I'm not sure it's reaching: I think it takes a lot to knock Ash out of his immediate conceptions (Hannah really balances Ash)
@@Roar_Restored I wouldn’t say he’s reaching either he just views the narrative in a way that relates to him as an individual and Hannah sees the narrative as it relates to the directors vision. Take it easy on my boy Ash he’s my Homeboy, my pal, my rotten soldier, my sweet cheese, he’s my good time boy.
, though.*
@@OriginalPuro THO
Savant? No. Both are sensitive. Both would do well to learn from each other when they BOTH are wrong. He can help her go deeper in understanding, if she is humble and open to it. She can help him not run past dynamics at play when they are significant to the narrative. IF...they want to grow individually and together, the potential is available in each other's strengths.
God bless them with Grace and Wisdom and Love.
Such a sad movie. Walt sacrificed everything to make Thau a better person without having experience the horrors of killing someone, to make sure he has a normal life.
@Shaine White Following Ash's worldwide Symbolisms Tour 2022, maybe Eastwood is also saying "Walt'etypes" are dying off, people like him who remember global horrors, seal a deal with some spit and a handshake -- they are disappearing like dinosaurs struggling to cope with a changing climate.
What did Walt actually sacrifice? A few months of slow and painful death? He knew he was dying, he chose to give that death meaning, and he did, in a spectacular way. He gave up a few months of remaining life and took years of life from all those gang members. What a trade! I would make it in a heartbeat, to do that much good at so little cost.
This makes me super excited for Hannah's reaction channel. Love ya, Ash, but she really has a special insight into character motivation!
Hannah always nails the people and their thoughts and feelings. Ash is more of a guy who understands but action films. I know we're always looking for the symbolisms but sometimes they're very subtle. Hannah definitely has the market on understanding that.
Thao helping the lady with the groceries was not the influence of Walt. The scene shows Walt reconsider what type of person Thao actually is. Up to that point Walt’s entire opinion of Thao was based solely on the fact he tried to steal Walt’s car. Well that and Walt’s inherent racism.
Straight up. Thao didn’t need “confidence” to be a good kid. Hannah has it right
I don't agree Walt is racist at all. His words and actions aren't compatible. In the storyline of the movie he reconciles that but still speaks "racist" af. "Racist" af fuck to someone completely ignorant of how people interact. There's the barber shop scene and many at thao's house that you should have second guessed that long ago.
Anyway. You missed the movie. It ain't about Thao. It's 💯 Walt. You missed the whole perspective
@@MrMancreatedgod please stop interjecting your own head cannon and carefully read what I wrote again.. Say it out loud to yourself if you find it better for comprehension.
Then stop and try to point out exactly where I said or implied the movie wasnt about Walt or that Walt did not change his perspective or that Walt had any influence at all on Thao helping the lady with her groceries.
If the matter between your ears still has normal function you'll realize nothing you "disagreed with" was actually stated or implied to begin with.
@WatchEuropaTheLastBattle I mean don’t take my word for it, my argument is backed by interviews with people involved in the film from Eastwood to the screenwriter to the producer.
He is written as an “unrepentant racist” that through his interactions with the Hmung family begins to see people beyond their skin color. “Unrepentant racist” is in quotations because that’s the term used by the producer. The screenwriter(the guy who wrote the character) also describes Walt as someone who see all people of a different color as the same, specifically Asians.
So maybe if you want to direct the childish “muH racism” around how about direct it at the people who made the film.
One thing you might of missed, Walt was super smart in how he set the gang up. They killed an UNARMED decorated veteran, that carries an EXTRA harsh sentence in the federal courts. Every one of them is going away for life, or the death penalty depending on the state. He insured they would never plague Sue & Thao again with his sacrifice. 😢
FUUUUUUUUCK...I knew they'd get charged but thought "eh...sentences always get reduced" but the unarmed veteran bit really does change stuff. Great analysis.
@@jordanwolfson8378 yep in the end of the day they killed a defenceless old man so they’re staying behind bars for a while
@@jordanwolfson8378 not in the federal system. There's no such thing as parole or reduced sentences there.
Add in the priest testifying re his final confession, and they’re toast. Not to mention he was “crucified;” arms to the side as he fell. . .
He was weak since allowing people like that into his life Walt died weak Tahoe only used him
Walt and Thao do both learn from each other. Yes Walt taught Thao confidence and how to stand up for himself, and to assert himself and allowed a rough gem to shine. But Thao also showed Walt that not everyone in the younger generation is spoiled and lazy, he gave Walt hope for the future.
Toad is and will always be the man!
ASH was 100% correct on this, this movie has nothing to do with the "Evolution" of Walt. It was about Walt finding friends in the least expected place & those friend's bringing a purpose to Walt's life. Walt spoke in a way that a lot of younger people today cant understand & he spoke that way to everyone including his friends & it had nothing to do with being a racist which is proven by his ACTIONS. Even to the end he was talking the same way. Being able to speak like that shows your not weak minded & you want be offended or controlled by WORDS because WORDS are not that important & ACTIONS are what you should judge a person by.
Its like the old saying "Actions Speak Louder Than Words" & as far as the name calling & trash talk thats just humor to get a good laugh. Feelings & Words are not reality. If I had a flat tire & some guy stopped to help I wouldn't care what he called me because his actions with helping me is what defines him. Some people have different ways of communicating & its the intolerant Leftist that try to DEMAND you speak like they want you to & act like there feelings are more important than yours. The way Leftist act has nothing to do with being sensitive to people being offended cause the way they act is offensive in its self. Personally I don't care how they act its the way they demand you bow to there wishes & emotional fragility that bs. I was taught the old saying "Sticks & Stones maty break my Bones but Words can Never hurt me" theory which people should adopt today. If people would chill and stop being selfishly offended we'd have a lot less problems today. If someone says something you don't like IGNORE IT or GIVE IT BACK TO THEM but choosing to be offended & cancel them is childish. Again with these speech police Leftist its has nothing to do with wanting to be sensitive to others feelings, its all about there feelings & trying to force you to speak a certain way. They are frauds & shouldn't be taken serious.
The look Hannah gave Ash at 26:19 killed me 🤣
Basically sums up the reaction
He made sure to stand on the curb, of their property so they couldn't call it a justified killing with him trespassing and made sure they all got sent away for 1st degree murder. He was already dead basically with cancer so instead of letting Tao mess up his whole life he sacrificed himself and set Tao up with a clean slate to live his life without the gang breathing down his neck. This is such a great movie, Clint nails it again!
Thao was a decent kid. But he was weak and ready to drift into the clutches of the gang. He needed the no nonsense father figure of Walt to steer him onto the right path. Sue instinctively understood Walt. She brought that shaman over to read Walt because she herself sensed these things about Walt and he needed to hear it. Walt was on a journey of redemption since committing terrible things in Korea. His wife helped him along the way, but he needed to go through a great suffering to reach his final redemption, which was sacrificing himself. The idiocy of cancel culture would have us reduce Walt to the sum of all the racial slurs he threw at people. The racial slurs were a shield he put on to hide and protect his heart. The Gran Torino was a symbol of his overflowing heart that could only come out with his great personal sacrifice. Before his sacrifice his heart like the Gran Torino was locked away, unused....
That’s beautiful man. I agree. If the only thing they took from the film was “racial slurs are bad,” then the point of the film flew right over their head. Which wouldn’t have been so bad, except that their head was so firmly up their rectal cavity they wouldn’t have seen it anyway.
@snootybaronet - You're spot on about the lunacy and reductionist idiocy of Cancel Culture which this film deftly dismantles. But, you missed how Walt already "unlocked" the Gran Torino when offering it to Toad for his date with Yum Yum. Walt's heart was already beginning to flow: He was happy manning the BBQ, with all those beautiful women, and enjoying his new family. His heart wasn't completely locked away, it was already opening.
*Toad
Well said
Live and let live baby!! Society needs to learn from this movie!!! Quit taking things so damn personal!!!!
Hannah absolutely nails the meanings in these movies like 10-20 min every time 😂.
Yes, she should watch a David Lynch movie like Mulholland Drive, so that it's more of a challenge for her.
Yeah, very intelligent
She’s an actress. She knows how movies work
Ash missing the point over and over in this one, 😂 lol
Why does it feel like Ash would be someone who would sign up to Hustlers university so he could be a top G
As Thao is driving his Gran Torino away at the end, you hear the outro theme with lyrics and music written by Clint Eastwood, sung by pianist Jamie Cullen.
** And yea Ash you were dead wrong about Thao's reaction to helping with the broken bag of groceries. Movies show, they rarely tell; Helping the woman shows us the core decency of Thao -- he's redeemable.
The soundtrack for this one of a kind😢😁😀
@@L4ftyOne That's a great start that you can now recognize basic categories of performing arts -- keep up the momentum bruv, maybe a musical or play next? You got this. Keep us in the loop, FeelsweirdMan
Never start a sentence with "and" or "or".
@@OriginalPuro And that last period goes INSIDE the quotes btw ;) Just looks better.
Heh, I'm guessing you're also dogmatically orthodox on some other laughable "Nevers" like ending sentences with prepositions and splitting infinitives. Not everybody gets it.
I always thought that end song was sung by Clint Eastwood.
Clint was the most beautiful Man in his Prime ! AND he was the FIRST macho, soft-talking Loner BAD ASS !
Your GF is right, Tao was raised right by his own family, not because of Walt's influence.
An interesting scene is at Walt's funeral, you see the two families. The left and right pews are split between them. On one side is his blood family, the family that doesn't respect him much, is almost empty, with a scatter of friends and family. The other side has his adopted family up front in their traditional dress of their culture and the community that respected him, full to the brim with people showing their love for him. It is a very touching scene that goes over looked. Fun reaction, as always. Keep up the great work. You two are a fun and lovely couple.
lol, Hannah has so much patience, I've never seen Captain Symbolism read a film so badly .. twice. The interaction was, as usual, epic. Loads of fun as ever. Love you guys!
facts man I'd have thrown hands with Ash after his 9000th misconception about the message of the movie
Interesting fact is that Walt is Polish . Kowalski is a polish name and actually he has very much polish character. My granddad, who fought in WWII was very similar: harsh, not so much open minded and u had to earn his respsect by actin with honor, pride and hard work ect. I see Kowalski in many old polish people who lived in times of war. They are just tough people bc they lived in tough times.
If only he had a Soviet name, those bullets at end would just bounce back...
@@bearheartKhan Yeah... maybe if movie was made be Soviet :D I think :P
Facts bro
My Polish grandpa is the same. I always think about him when I watch this movie.
I live in the Metro Detroit area, where there is a large Polish-American population, most notably Hamtramck (although maybe not as much nowadays cuz of other immigrants moving to the area)... my best friend's family is of Polish descent and seeing as this film takes place in Highland Park (also in Metro Detroit), it doesn't surprise me that Walt is Polish
This movie always brings me to tears. My Dudda (grandfather) had his own building firm and I never asked him teach me. It's the one thing I wish I could go back and change.
Such a great movie. The contrast in cultures and yet they come together. Beautiful when people find command ground and it breaks down barriers.
Legendary movie, another one of “those” movies in life that make you stop and think
Clint Eastwood was in a military plane crash, off the coast of California in 1951 one night, when he was 21 years old in the military.
He survived for a ways in a life raft, until he was thrown from it. Then he swam the rest of the way to shore, fighting the waves and undertow. I read that he probably wouldn't have been the movie star that we know today, had he not crashed and survived. He was apparently about to be militarily shipped off somewhere, but that crash kept that from happening.
The fact that they filmed this whole movie in 5 weeks is so impressive
Clint Eastwood is a 1 take man. his philosophy is "why use many take when one take do trick". It's a good movie, the acting is clearly horrible in this movie, but the direction is actually terrible.
Ash listen to Hannah ,she gets all the nuances ,you need her to explain all the things you miss.
I was raised by my grandfather who served in Vietnam. My parents were both either MIA on drugs somewhere or incarcerated my entire childhood. He died a few months before this movie came out. I had to leave the theater because everything reminded me of him. To the world he was a persnickety old grumpy coot that hated “that shitty boom bumpin garbage music”- as he called it. But he was always loving, caring, and most of protective, over me. He would tell Jehovas Witnesses “Merry Christmas” before shooting them the bird if they ever knocked on his door 😂
A few of the many things he taught me:
-how to change my cars oil
-how to change a flat
- how to grow a good garden
-how to build a proper fire
-firearm safety, and constantly took me shooting because he said I was a great shot and loved to bond with me over a Sunday afternoon skeet-shoot in the field behind our house
-how to hunt, track, and field dress a deer (skinning and gutting it and removing the edible meat….we live in a very rural area where hunting is a way of life)
-how to fish and clean your catch
-how to use a chainsaw if I ever needed to
-how to identify the native plants where we live so I knew what poison oak looked like and what plants were toxic to pets
….that’s merely a few of the countless things he taught me.
The reason he taught me everything he knew was because he wanted to make sure that I could survive and thrive on my own in this world without having to rely on anyone else to keep me safe. He wanted me to find a good husband, but he didn’t want me to be “one of those helpless women who needed a man for everything”.
I eventually found a great man, who is now my husband, but I am teaching my children all of the things my papaw taught me. Not only because I want them to be capable of taking care of themselves if something ever happened to my husband and myself, but also because I want them to have a wealth of knowledge and experience nature and truly appreciate all the small things.
To everyone else, my papaw was just like Clint in this movie- a grumpy old man who was set in his ways…but to me, my papaw was a legend. The last of a dying breed who stood up for others and never compromised in his beliefs and worked hard for everything they had. He was the definition of a true patriot and a real man.
I thought this would’ve been the perfect film for Clint Eastwood to end his acting career on.
My Dad did too. He said that this was Eastwood's only movie death. An opus of sorts. That may have been the plan before they did The Mule.
@@andypickle1584 That plan was dead when Eastwood did that questionable film with Justin Timberlake in 2012.
The mule is still very good.
What's the recent one that he did? Not even sure if it's even out. I just remember seeing the pics of him on a horse. Which was a sight, considering that he's in his 90's now.
Clint and Sylvester aka Rocky are going to make movies till their last breath. It keeps them alive.
The Priest is one of my favourite characters in the film, I see him as how Walter's wife was and the beliefs she held when she was alive, the fact he is persistent on learning about Walt and helping Walt through his struggles are the things his wife probably did when they first started dating, and the fact Walt even says he went to church only because of her, you can see how if it was anyone else with those beliefs he wouldn't pay them any attention or openly mock them, other than his wife his soft spot. His wife knew nothing of war and the horrors he endured just like the Priest but still was there to help and learn just like the Priest, I see the Priest as a representation of Walter being met with his wife again, figuratively speaking, he is meeting with what is essentially her, her beliefs and ideals and thought structure are mirrored in the Priest and the discussions with Walter, only we get what Walter would truly say and not brush it down or try and change the subject.
I think the film could have done a bit better in highlighting the impact Walt had on the priest. Maybe in another edit it did but I think the priest grew quite a bit in maturity because of Walt.
Fantastic dynamic and contrast between the two characters.
that is a beautiful sentiment and I never looked at it that way before. very nice thoughts, will look at the Priest differently next time I watch this. thank you
I think Walt was entirely right about the priest in the beginning of the film. But that is the genius of the script. Whether you like religion or hate it you feel like the script agreed with you. It was a little of both. It was just the opinions of characters who seemed like real people. It wasn't authoritative. It wasn't shoving any views in your face. That Hollywood has stopped doing this is why it's dying. Now it tells people what to think. I'm a free man and I would die before I let anyone tell me what to think. That isn't living.
I'm not religious like that, but that's beautiful, I never realised that dynamic.
But why would a man like Walt, want to engage with this young, male, religiously motivated stranger who is not on the same level as his life long wife? Buttinski needs to butt out.
One of my top 20 movies EVER. The song by Clint and Jamie Cullum is beautiful. SO powerful.
Wow. Ash cried. I seen it. Don't deny it, lol! Love Hannah as always. Thanks for the great reaction guys!
Yes, Jaime Cullum! Thankyou for reminder, the I remember he was doing pretty well in the mid 00s, great jazz pianist.
@@Uriel77200 He cried in The Last Samurai...so, no big deal, i also did
Perhaps suggest Million Dollar Baby. It won 4 Academy Awards including best picture.
@@danwood4171 another great one from Clint for sure.
Honestly, both of you guys are right about Walt and Thao needing each other. Thao lost his father and that's where Walt came in. Walt helped Thao to become a man. Walt's influence gave Thao backbone, confidence, work ethic and responsibility.
And Thao helped Walt lighten up. Walt was estranged from his family and Thao (and his family) sort of filled that void. Thao's influence made Walt happier, less grouchy, slightly less racist and smiled more.
While admittedly Walt helped Thao out more, they both did a lot for each other.
Walt admits he regrets having failed with is sons , Thao is Walt's absoution not only for Korea but his sons.
You two are amazing. I was having a horrible day and watching you watch one of my favorite movies made me feel so much better. I agree with everything you were saying and your energy together was great and funny. I’m going to see what else you got. Cheers
Appreciate you Jeremy, you made my night as well mate, I haven’t had a great one as well 👊🏽
It's amazing to think that this movie came out 14 years ago, and that Clint is still with us in 2022. He was born in 1930. Nearly a decade before WW2.
I'd like to see the latest movie that he did, but I'm unsure if it's out yet.. I saw the photos of him on the horse, at the age of 91-92.
@@RustyB453 🥴 Oh, pardon me, Karen.. A few _months_ short of a decade.
Better? Lol
its called CRY MACHO & pretty good basic story and even tho Clint was 90 he was able to do a few scenes on a horse. Nice touching ending to with him finding peace
@@RustyB453 You must not know what a decade is, its a ten year span. So Guts is correct, he was born just about a decade (9 years so 1 year short of a decade) before WWII started.
@@Gutslinger Guts I don't think he was correcting you for being months off or even 1 year off, I think he doesn't know that a decade is t0 years. Probably thinks its 100 years but that is of course a century.
Hannah was kind of right about how Walt and Tao had a give and take relationship with what they taught each other. And similarly Ash was on the money about just getting through people's wall by just not getting offended, so points to both of you. The reason why some of the dialog was kind of clunky was because Eastwood refused the actors that were provided to him and instead took the ones you see here since they were actually the right ethnicity and age range. They were amateurs but he took them anyway. For your next movie, I will once again suggest Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium or Holes. Both are fantastic movies that are meant for kids, but are still good for mature audiences.
Ash really missed the mark about Tao, while Hannah was spot-on. But both of you missed Clint saying, "How 'bout that", as he watched Tao help the old lady.
Just like ‘Shawshank’, this movie is about patience, persistence and hope.
Symbolism ❤
I love how Ash totally missed the symbolism of the screen door ‘confession’ to Tao. Tao represents the Korean kid he killed in the war. And the great sadness and shame that he has felt ever since. The confession to the priest was to fulfill his wife’s wish.
Dont worry Hanna this movie gets the tears rolling every time. Such a bitter sweet ending but great movie.
Great reaction.
Hannah correcting Ash when he misinterpret's something is priceless
This movie makes me think of my grandfather. 1913-2013
He was very intimidating but also kind. He was a hard working man.
A farmer, mechanic, father and more.
I loved going into his workshop full of tools/equipment and learning how to use them. His shop smelled like sawdust, motor oil and aftershave.
He would help me repair my car into his 90's. He was a tough old guy.
He was my hero growing up.
I have the 1950's radio he used in his shop. It still works.
Awesome story, reminds me of my grandfather also
Respect. A true legend.
I remember watching this for the first time with my family in our TV room in the basement. It was a sunny day but there were only a few small windows down there so it was pretty dark with just a few small rays of light coming through. When the movie ended we all just sat there quietly for awhile... thinking. I couldn't help but think the lighting in my basement was a perfect symbolism for the plot of this fantastic film. There is a lot of dark in this world and bad things happen to good, innocent people. But there are rays of light, there are people who will stand up (and even sacrifice themself) for the good of others. Even if that person is flawed themself. Walt sacrificed himself so Thao wouldn't have to kill someone, and lose that piece of you that vanishes when you take a life (however justified you are). Such a moving story. Great reaction as always Ash and Hannah, love from New York!
I love this channel so much. You guys are so great in discussion. Hannah is so wise with reading people . Ash has the SYMBOLISM!
They don't want to be your Bro' .. was one of my favourite lines
I don't know about anyone else. But this whole movie my hand was in my palm every time Ash thought he was explaining something correctly and it was actually Hannah's explanation that was correct.
Fully agree 😂 Hannah was 100% on point!
That’s usually the case here with them.
Ash was insanely wrong in all aspects this film
@@fiverx2159 no he was mostly but he was right on a couple things like we don’t need more sensitive adult children getting offended every second.
She seemed pretty lost on the most basic things in the Lord of the Rings movies for example, constantly misunderstand things, missing stuff by not looking at the screen and Ash having to remind her to look, or Ash having to explain a scene for her although he was watching it for the first time as well. It could be a genre-specific thing lol. But yeah, in this movie Hannah seemed to have a way better understanding of the plot. Ash made some good points still, rather towards things outside the movie though lol.
Walt is fearless
The man survived a war
He's not afraid of sh*t
He's old and he's lived his life
He has nothing left to lose
That's a man with whom you do not want to f*ck
I wouldn't say fearless considering thats what accounts for most forms of bravery but I agree with everything else you said
@@Northbravo tit
My dad was a marine.. Born in 1949 Vietnam vet I was born in 87 and honestly I've watched this movie at least 12 times but watching you guys debate Walt's character actually helped me understand my father a Lil better
“Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.”
When she knows she's right, she does not let you off the hook 😆
I love Hannah 🤣 Always keeping Ash on his toes lmao
Haha facts!!
I think this has become my favorite reaction channel. Ash and Hannah..... YOU ROCK. Also! Clint Eastwood is what we down in the south like to call "a mans man". Men the stature of the characters he plays are what built the western world.
Walt knew he was dying, so he decided to go out on his own terms and make sure his death had some meaning, saving the lives and futures for his new friends.
Walt talking to trapped Thao at the end, through that mesh door, is the actual confession
Hannah is mainly right about things in this movie. I do agree with Ash that we do need more actions than sweet words and this is where Walt comes in. He's a very good man inside.
Clint Eastwood makes the most badass, scariest old man I’ve ever seen in cinema.
Your conversation on a good movie like this is always demanding full attention from me.
Great work. It also giving me some hope in people when I see that some of the current young generation can find appreciation and understanding about the basics of life.
Ash pretty much hit the nail on the head. It's called "meeting people where they are at." You can't change people in a single moment. Sometimes you have to take people as they are FIRST, and THEN you can help them grow.
And id just like to point out thinking you can "help someone grow" might be the most arrogant thing ive ever heard. Ive noticed many people who are eager to "help people grow" are quite immature themselves and just trying to mold you into something they personally find more pleasant. Their intent is always selfish and never to make the world better for anyone but themselves.
That's you operating under your own assumption that you need to change anyone in the first place. How do you know that someone else needs to change and not the other way around?
@@strawdawgs78 maybe "getting to know someone" is a more apt phrase?
PREACH!!
I think most people understand exactly what you are saying and mean by it. People get so offended by simple basic statements
Don't forget that Clint Eastwood is a great director, as well.
I’ve never seen someone be a wrong about the message of a movie as Ash is about this movie 😂
Whenever Hannah is wrong about something, Ash is behind her 100%, but whenever she's right, he argues until his dying breath lol
That ending shocked me. I didn't know he was gonna go. The fact that he didn't kill them. The fact that Thao's Sister Sue was violated made me cry and that Thao and his family were helpless to save her from the gang/family members. The fact that their own blood relative would do such a disgusting thing pissed me off. If I was Walt I would have burned their place and popped them all for what they did to Thao and Sue. His sacrifice too like a god damn. I hate how the granddaughter was smiling for the Gran Tarino during the Will reading, like her grandfather was just gunned down and all you care about is a stupid car which you didn't even earned or prove your own worth to drive it.
Well they would have a worse faith when they go for life i prison (maybe even the death penalty depending where this is) but these guys are gonna become someone's b*tch in prison with all the murders not to mention that if they get charged with what they did to sue they would also be sex offenders meaning the other prisoners might kill them for it...
21:59 Thank You, Hannah! Tao was a sweet natured kid from the beginning of the film, he just needed some *guidance* from an older male figure 💯👍🏾🎬🍿 You’re RIGHT!!!
I have been weirdly obsessed with watching reactions to this very powerful film lately and had to tell you I've enjoyed yours the most. I really liked seeing Hannah's predictions because aside from a couple of wrong guesses in the beginning, and later on a premonition something bad was about to happen to the car (unfortunately what happened was much worse) your predictions were very spot on.
And I too agree with Hannah about Tao's kind nature, which was not a result of meeting Walt and perhaps a result of growing up surrounded by women, one of whom quite old, so when he saw the older lady needing help, he was quick to assist her.
The ending is especially shocking if you've seen a lot of Clint's many films first because at the end of them he almost always rides off into the sunset in one way or the other, then the credits roll and creepy music plays. This almost felt like he was ending his film career and I suspect at one point that may have been his intent. He must have found more scripts he really likes because he's made more movies since.
Hannah has such a beautiful soul 😢 so much empathy.
Great reaction guys!
Bruh Hanna is right about Tao just being a good guy and Clint realizing Tao has potential
Ash that's a Priest, not a Pastor, a Priest spends his whole life dedicated to the church.
A Pastor is just someone who studies the Bible and teaches what they've learned
damn thanks for the info i actually didn't know that
A pastor has to actually be ordained or something, right?
@@MaxMustermann-ze1iv Don’t thank him; he gave you completely wrong information.
There are Christian communities with less formal organization and hierarchy than Roman Catholicism, some of them have shockingly low requirements for their leadership roles, and some of those under-qualified church leaders are called “pastor”, but all of that has little to do with the definition of “pastor” or how that role is distinct from “priest”. Being a pastor means to be responsible for the spiritual life of the members of a particular Christian community - to be the shepherd of that flock. “Pastor” is a defined role in the Roman Catholic Church, where it means to be the priest with overall responsibility for a parish. Many parishes only have a single priest who is also the pastor of that parish. In parishes that are too large to be adequately ministered to by a single priest, there will be additional priests who assist the parish’s pastor.
In other words, a Catholic pastor is a priest, and not some kind of less qualified or less credentialed person. In fact, the pastor is the one assigned by the bishop to be responsible for the whole parish, so a priest who is not a pastor would typically be in the inferior or subordinate role, not the other way around
You Gotta watch "The Outlaw Josey Wales", Clint in his Prime & his BEST Western. Hannah will love it .
The Outlaw Josey Wales is much BETTER than the critically acclaimed & awarded Unforgiven
Walt and Thau both had to change to become closer- in viewpoint, understanding and fraternity. Walt became softer/pliant and Thau became stronger/resilient. Both were caught between 2 cultures. For Walt it was old vs new and for Thau it was East vs West. Both needed wisdom. Wisdom comes not from age, but from learning from your experience. There's the ol' saying: "There's no fool, like an ol' fool." 😮
I am blessed to have older friends and younger friends. I learn from both.😊
It's his Korean War gun, which was also used in WWII, so you are kind of right. It is an M1 Garand, chambered in 30-06 Springfield cartridges. Patton called it "the greatest battle implement ever devised."
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Hey, Ash and Hannah, I am so happy that you reacted to Gran Torino. This was the first time a major Hollywood production featured my Hmong people in supporting and significant roles. Despite some inaccuracies, it introduced the world to who the Hmong are. I took my parents and aunt and uncle to see it on the big screen, and everyone loved it. My mom wanted the bad guys killed, but my dad understood Walt’s sacrifices. FYI, Ahney Her, the actress portraying Sue (Thao’s sister), played a prisoner in Batman v Superman, officially making the Hmong exist in the DCEU because her line was spoken in the Hmong dialect, lol.
You know she's loyal when she wouldn't cheat on you with Heath Ledger in a dream lol.
If you want to watch another great movie with Clint Eastwood I highly recommend you to watch Million Dollar Baby (2004). This is the great one!
Yes, following the Clint Eastwood theme, I would love to see a reaction of Million Dollar Baby with you and Hannah!
Yes, that is a must
It's a must, but to be honest you could put up a board with all Clint's Movies on and throw darts blindfolded without missing a winner.
He pulled an M1 Garand rifle. This rifle was used as the main battle rifle in WW2 and most of the Korean war. It shoots a .30-06 cartridge with usually a 160 grain full metal jacket bullet. Deadly to 800 yards.
I loved every second of this. You're both right and I love the argument over it. Reminds me of me and my wife.
The moment Ash got his finger up his noses and says God was mad at him for making fun of the pastor "symbolisms" sent me through the roof 🤣🤣🤣
I'm definitely a bit more on Hannah's side here.
Clearly, at this point in life, Tao needs someone like Walt, with a moral compass to instill confidence in him and so on.
But in any case, Walt also needs Tao. Actually funny that you guys got into a discussion about this right after the movie showed how much Walt needs Tao too. Namely, as someone, Walt can be a father figure for (which he couldn't with his sons) but also as someone who will back him down (when he wants to bust his back on the stairs) and as someone who also teaches Walt a different culture. Because Walt is just as triggered at the simple sight of another culture in his neighborhood, as the most sensitive snowflake. Even before he has anything to do with them. The simple sight is enough.
So maybe everyone needs a Walt, but also a Tao. Good movie.
If I could just say one thing, although you guys butted heads on the issues of Tao vs Walts in the world, you're both just different sides of the same coin. You're both right. It requires coming together, the taos and the walts to balance each other out. This movie teaches that the older generations need to have an active part in the generative process of teaching young people, and that young people need to show respect and also have an active part in the interaction. Really do love your channel guys, been coming here for months now and I hope you continue to grow as a channel and I wish you all the luck in the world.
Hannah has it spot on. Their relationship is a balance. They need Walt to be the firm, immovable wall and he needs them to give him the affection that he received from his wife and will never get from his own kids.
"Yum yum" was the name of a pretty girl in "The Mikado" an opera by Gilbert and Sullivan.
“The pursuit of happyness” is a must. Y’all need to watch it 👍🏼
Walt is one of the most human characters I have ever seen. The complexity of people is so much that you cannot limit yourself to judging someone right off the bat. The "Ogres" often hide a tender heart under their harsh manners and an inordinate fondness for outbursts.
I also think that this film slaps those of us who have lived in this era of what is known as "political correctness" and invites us to question ourselves. This attitude that implies never offending with words or comments is no guarantee so that people stop thinking in ways that we consider reprehensible, rather it can feed prejudice in silence and lead us to something else but hypocrisy.
Here in this film, Eastwood demonstrates how the armor can be rough, but it can remain just that: a skin, something only exterior that cracks with little. It is always said that what defines a man is not his words, but his actions. And, in film scripts, this is said even more, as an unbreakable rule.
Yes, it says that prejudice is superficial, and being able to offend and take offence passively and accept people for who they are in spite of that offence is how you move past that, because speaking the truth is more important than protecting people's feelings, and it's a sign of respect for someone that you tell them the truth under the assumption that they aren't too weak to handle hearing it.
You are right Ash, that is Clint Eastwood's son Scott Eastwood ,and Scott Eastwood was also in Fury as the guy standing behind Brad Pitt eating as Brad Pitt was making Norman shoot the German in the back.
For a man who didn't like church, Walt Kowalski was the embodiment of John 15:13 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
Old Clint judged without reason before his time, and when he saw that the boy crossed the street to help the lady he realized how wrong he was with him, Hanna was right, that boy was already like that, Clint was not kind. with the unknown people and the boy yes, Clint learned so much from the boy.
Hannah getting so good the channel will have to be "Just trust hash"
I always trust hash, I smoke about a gram of it a day.
@@DomR1997 ^ this guy gets it
Sorry Ash, but Hannah was right all the time :)
At this point am staying in this channel for hannah. Ash getting more annoying day after day 😅
she probably watched the film before
@@Phed98 wow 😒
It goes both ways....
@@hayderneamah1323 I disagree. Ash was on to something
Love the connection Walt creates with Tao and the priest; relationships he regretted not making with his two sons. He realizes his sons have grown into their own lives so it's too late to repair. Because Tao and the priest are young and starting their lives, he's able to build those bonds before he dies. Also, the theme of cause/effect. Our actions/interactions now shape the future of our lives and our communities.
Love the chemistry between these two. Definitely stealing the line, “I’m the seasoned meat, inside of you”
Lots of lessons in this one and once again Clint Eastwood masterfully applies screenwriting 101 principles in his movies. From the beginning, the main character or "hero" exhibited flaws and presented a conflict in the early part of the movie. Every scene contributed to the plot, but they gave the viewer options to ponder on subsequent scenes without giving them away. On the human side, he shows us how meaningless racial/ethnic insults are compared to one's actions. It shows how devastating loneliness can be when someone has lost the love of their life and their own family seems like strangers. It shows the depth of regret and inner conflict of a combat veteran. And lastly, it shows the compassion and selflessness of a man willing to sacrifice his own life for some people he had come to love as an adopted family. Well done, Mr. Eastwood.
Great reaction to a great movie, and you're so right, people are way too sensitive these days, it seems everyone is so easily offended.
Clint Eastwood is a National Treasure!
He should be in museum. He overstayed his welcome on Earth.
Lmfao when clint called his son a pussy 😂 i died
I like how Ash takes things he gets a laugh but knows how serious the situation is. Ash has good taste because I think Hanah is a wonderful woman she has a good personality and a caring nature,big heart and she is beautiful I think she is a keeper.
Love it mate ❤️
My dad who passed away, used to be fan of Eastwood's movies, so this movie is so meaningful to me because, it reminds me of the movies my dad and I used to watch together. I apologize if I got emotional.
I enjoy Hannah's perceptive and intelligent commentary.
Ash my boy, you both have amazing reactions, but a huge part of this movie is how people DO need others like Tao. A Tao in your life keeps your ego in check, makes you question yourself to become a better person!
Also keeps you from cynicism, and you get to have the joy of seeing someone you've helped come into their own.
I disagree, Tao is a wimp and Walt helped him on his way to becoming a standup guy. Tao and his family helped Walt grow too but Ash was spot on about the world needing Walt's more than Tao's. Modern day we have been brainwashed to be weak and Walt is a strong man.
The world only needs more Walt's right now because it has so many Tao's; that doesn't mean Tao's don't serve a vital purpose towards Walt's.
@@dylanwalsh6677 I agree that Tao was important to help Walt grow.
@@gunman462 And how do you know the world needs more Walt's than Tao's?
I feel like I've just been in an advanced philosophy class watching this video 😂, great reaction as always!!
Clint Eastwood smokes in all his movies but he is a lifelong nonsmoker. Even back when it wasn’t frowned upon. He’s only ever done it for his acting roles. An absolute legend
38:13 "He's buying him tools. This is good, this is so good" - Hannah.
"Oh no" - Ash
"No. This is bad" - Hannah
This movie really takes you on a ride. Love your reactions together, please keep up the amazing content. Love you two.
Hannah knows stories so well, she needs to write a script. She just gets the beats of stories and how they work.