do you think this might apply to second gens also? I replaced the alternator didn't help, have a 2000 that only when its cold (anything under 45-50F degrees) it will charge at 14 volts for a few seconds then drop to 13 for a few more, then back to 14 volts and so on, after idling for 10-15 minutes then drive does it stabilize at 14 volts, maybe after it warms up the sensor is within adjustment and needs slightly adjusted?
@@whatsBF3 I'm much less familiar with second gens but what you are describing sounds like it's just the grid heaters cycling which is completely normal. They will cycle and cause the voltage to fluctuate until the truck gets up to temp.
@@decentgarage hmm okay, when i got the truck this year in february, they had taken off the ground for grid heater probably for a reason i put a turbo and 150 over injectors in never had a problem starting when it was negative outside so might just unhook it so it doesn't kill alternator flocculating unless you think it will be fine, i'm pretty mechanically inclined but not huge into diesels 🤷♂️
@@whatsBF3 If it is the grid heaters cycling (which I bet it is) it is not harmful at all and I would just leave it. Most people who are new to 12 valves see that and think there is something wrong but it is totally normal.
You would be surprised. Try to find a smaller car dealer that is willing to sell trade-ins to the public before auctioning them off. I have bought many a running vehicle that have absolutely no issues for ~$500, including older pickups like this one. Most trade ins get auctioned for pennies on the dollar that they are worth because the dealer doesn't think it worth the time to fix it themselves.
Yeah I don't believe half the stuff he says and his titles are always clickbaity. That truck is rust free and 4wd drive. That is a 7k truck any day of the week no matter what the miles are.
Nice to see the boys are there to help you get these projects done. The sneak peak was cool 😎, cant wait to see more, thanks for sharing Sam and the boys👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Love the opening makes me laugh every time you do that. Can’t believe you got that truck for that it’s a hell of a awesome find. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
I got an 01 Silverado from my grandpa. He bought it brand new. Only 160k miles. Been wanting it for years and he finally gave it to me. Rust free in great shape. Kept cutting off. New alternator relays some other stuff. Crank shaft censor. Now she runs fantastic. Would love to have a nice square body. Sorry I’m a gm guy but do love an old dodge. I remember riding in the back of my grandpas to the farm when I was a kid. Maybe late .70s early 80s model. Remember helping him spray paint the bed one time
One thing I like on my 2013 Super Duty is the manual/automatic hubs. They work without locking them in 90% of the time but if you ever have a brain fart and get completely immobilized stuck in 2 wheel drive, you can lock the hubs manually where regular automatic hubs would just leave you stuck. Congrats on your first gen. I can tell you really like it.
There’s this local guy I have on Snapchat who paid $500 for a running and driving 1st gen. Only thing missing was a bed and half the cab 😂😂. Buddy has it posted for $3500
The first several years I was in the military we had a fleet of 1990 Dodge 2500 bobtail trucks with 12 valves. They were used, abused, rough and tough but always got the job done. All were 2wd which 4wd would of been nice but oh well.
This sure would be a great truck to restore to 'almost' original condition😄! No matter what you decide, it is definitely another awesome addition to your fleet - enjoy!!
I have a 91 non intercooled w250 727 auto with 273K. Its an on going project. It looks just like yours, a BUNCH of little stuff wrong but theyre easy and cheap fixes. The first gens are awesome. Big plans are a gear vendors OD kit and maybe a disc brake conversion down the line. I have more pressing things now, shocks, springs, ball joints and king pins. Good luck man! Im excited to see more content on this old girl.
Happy thanks giving from Canada 🇨🇦 you lucky son of a gun I would love that truck would be cooler as a dually but I love it either way good for you you were just saying in a video I watched were you lined up all your trucks but a first gen good for you it’s beautiful lol
Put an external voltage regulator in it. ECM in 92-93 have internal voltage problems. I can work on that inside and out with multiple parts trucks. Good score man.
I got a 93 Dually ext cab that belonged to my Grandpa. Got a Cummins out of a 2006 going in mated to a Eaton 10 speed. Waiting on Knaphiede to get my Aluminum Flatbed done. Ready for paint and 22 inch Alcoas
Regarding your charging problem, install a 70\80's vintage standard voltage regulator and bypass the factory wiring running the charge wire direct to the battery ( min. of a 6 ga. ) and add a volt gauge to monitor the charge voltage. Keep the fuseable link to protect the chassis wiring. ,
A few months ago there was one at a local auction that went for 4500. A dealer bought it, had a Maaco paint job put on it and sold it for 12K. Dammit I should have bought that sucker.
I recently saw a '92 at $3,500 which needed new paint and tires but it was 200 miles away and the seller said it was probably best to trailer it - cracked tires, so I passed. It had the NV4500 five speed.
That era the voltage regulation for the alternator was PCM controlled. Back in the 90s I use to convert them over to the old external regulator that you mount to the firewall. It's been awhile but if I remember right the green wire at the alternator is the wire you run to the external regulator and bypass the PCM. I'm going by 25 years ago memory so check a wiring diagram. On edit: I see the tach signal was missing. You can also check alternator by full fielding the alternator with the green wire.
Ad an external voltage regulator and fuse block to swap the fusible links, manual button for grid heater and run a cable to shut off the fuel delete the fuel shut off solenoid so it’ll stay running with no power. These are what I did to eliminate a few “dodge” problems nothing beats a Cummins
Nice truck at a nice price. I have a twin to it here in PA. Dad bought. It new with the getrag 5 speed. When the bearings went out a little over 100 k swapped to the nv4500. Every time I take it out someone wants to buy it. I started telling them the price
Pro tip guys: If you have your insurance fixing anything on your Cummins, make sure to claim everything you can! Made the mistake recently of telling mine that they didn't need to include some things on my 3rd gen. I was worried about them totalling it out... In the end, they told me it didn't even get close to totalled and I can't add that stuff back on 🤬 If they tell you it's officially totalled, then tell them to take things off (cosmetic of course) until it's just under totalled!
Anybody getting rid of any 1st Gen. 12 valve at $500.00 due to a charging issue is just plain stupid. Especially since restored and upgraded ones are fetching as much as much as $30,000, between the Dodge and Survivalist communities (All mechanical, no emissions controls; can run various forms of diesel).
It means the old owner was done with the truck and had bigger stuff to worry about. They didn’t know what the issue was and they couldn’t figure it out. So they got rid of it for cheap.
@@VBELTandSON So in other words, they did the typically Umerican thing and let something go, not doing their research and realizing that they should have asked more, considering the more recently discovered value in these trucks, due to their simplicity, efficiency and reliability, whether theirs was running or not. Couldn't resist. I work in retail, doing both buying and selling and I'm seeing I.Q.'s drop in this country year-after-year.
Sorry Vbelt but I’m calling Bullshit. I am a diesel truck dealer and there is no humanly possible way you paid $500 for that 1st gen. If it started and ran I would pay $4-$5000 for it
To have a shop like that is a dream. I also have 2 12 valves and to 08s. Any recommendations of locations to start up a shop( or buy property) like that?
I HAVE A 92 4x4 5 sod it’s same truck as this only paint is bad I have offers every time I drive it, last offer was 15..000 cash ,another guy offered a 2011 4x4 auto Cummins even swap ,seems everybody want these truck more than the new ones
Having over 200k miles I probably wouldn't pay anymore than 6k is a really nice single cab though. Originally I wanted a single cab mine is the Extended though so its kinda nice to have the extra space. Was 9k for mine with 113k which is well worth it.
It’s simple to turn a $500 truck into a $10,000 truck, spend $15,000-$20,000 on it and 6 months labor.
🤣🤣🤣
WTF, 500 bucks running and even got him to deliverit. nice score
As much as I love flat beds, I think this truck should keep its original bed
However a service bed looks amazing on these. I saw one a while back and loved it.
Zach Lankford ya but i would never put one on it stock bed looks batter lol
@@subarulegacy4203 I don’t know look a picture up and you may change your mind. But the stock bed does look great
Hell yeah!!! Happy to help! So glad it was the crank position sensor! Can't wait to see what you do with the best truck in your fleet 🤣
do you think this might apply to second gens also? I replaced the alternator didn't help, have a 2000 that only when its cold (anything under 45-50F degrees) it will charge at 14 volts for a few seconds then drop to 13 for a few more, then back to 14 volts and so on, after idling for 10-15 minutes then drive does it stabilize at 14 volts, maybe after it warms up the sensor is within adjustment and needs slightly adjusted?
@@whatsBF3 I'm much less familiar with second gens but what you are describing sounds like it's just the grid heaters cycling which is completely normal. They will cycle and cause the voltage to fluctuate until the truck gets up to temp.
@@decentgarage hmm okay, when i got the truck this year in february, they had taken off the ground for grid heater probably for a reason i put a turbo and 150 over injectors in never had a problem starting when it was negative outside so might just unhook it so it doesn't kill alternator flocculating unless you think it will be fine, i'm pretty mechanically inclined but not huge into diesels 🤷♂️
@@whatsBF3 If it is the grid heaters cycling (which I bet it is) it is not harmful at all and I would just leave it. Most people who are new to 12 valves see that and think there is something wrong but it is totally normal.
His stoke was so good when it started charging lol
There’s no way you got it running first GEN for 500 bucks
That’s what I’m sayin bro
You would be surprised. Try to find a smaller car dealer that is willing to sell trade-ins to the public before auctioning them off. I have bought many a running vehicle that have absolutely no issues for ~$500, including older pickups like this one.
Most trade ins get auctioned for pennies on the dollar that they are worth because the dealer doesn't think it worth the time to fix it themselves.
Yeah I don't believe half the stuff he says and his titles are always clickbaity. That truck is rust free and 4wd drive. That is a 7k truck any day of the week no matter what the miles are.
@@Luckingsworth how do you find these trucks like this because I’m trying to find a 1st gen Cummins myself
@@blakebullard3671 Just need to find a dealer that sells vehicles they take as trade-ins before they send them to auction.
Not all dealers do.
Nice to see the boys are there to help you get these projects done. The sneak peak was cool 😎, cant wait to see more, thanks for sharing Sam and the boys👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Sam you might aswell start a 12v dealership. 👌
Love the opening makes me laugh every time you do that. Can’t believe you got that truck for that it’s a hell of a awesome find. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
You have to know somebody to get that kind of a deal
I got an 01 Silverado from my grandpa. He bought it brand new. Only 160k miles. Been wanting it for years and he finally gave it to me. Rust free in great shape. Kept cutting off. New alternator relays some other stuff. Crank shaft censor. Now she runs fantastic. Would love to have a nice square body. Sorry I’m a gm guy but do love an old dodge. I remember riding in the back of my grandpas to the farm when I was a kid. Maybe late .70s early 80s model. Remember helping him spray paint the bed one time
Great deal , you must be living right. Hell yeah brother
yo, thats my favorite truck from your fleet. i've had a lot of first gen trucks, and i regret not keeping one.
One thing I like on my 2013 Super Duty is the manual/automatic hubs. They work without locking them in 90% of the time but if you ever have a brain fart and get completely immobilized stuck in 2 wheel drive, you can lock the hubs manually where regular automatic hubs would just leave you stuck. Congrats on your first gen. I can tell you really like it.
There’s this local guy I have on Snapchat who paid $500 for a running and driving 1st gen. Only thing missing was a bed and half the cab 😂😂. Buddy has it posted for $3500
A white first gen!?!? Its like it was meant to be!! Congrats on the truck it sure is sweet!
The first several years I was in the military we had a fleet of 1990 Dodge 2500 bobtail trucks with 12 valves. They were used, abused, rough and tough but always got the job done. All were 2wd which 4wd would of been nice but oh well.
Sam, you’re the Cummins man😎 Congrats on the 1st gen!
By far the best intro! 🤣 awesome channel man!
This sure would be a great truck to restore to 'almost' original condition😄! No matter what you decide, it is definitely another awesome addition to your fleet - enjoy!!
Liked the intro. I remember when 1st gens first hit the street back in 1990. Sure have come along way!
Awesome Skit playing at the beginning!!! Loved it!
I have a 91 non intercooled w250 727 auto with 273K. Its an on going project. It looks just like yours, a BUNCH of little stuff wrong but theyre easy and cheap fixes. The first gens are awesome. Big plans are a gear vendors OD kit and maybe a disc brake conversion down the line. I have more pressing things now, shocks, springs, ball joints and king pins. Good luck man! Im excited to see more content on this old girl.
Great Intro! Love that 1st Gen!
Bro?! Can’t wait to be at the beginning just like Joe Rogans channel. Love the videos man. From Racine Wisconsin ✊🏽
Love your videos man keep them coming
500$ is a deal and a half running or not
you better buy that man a meal! what a deal!
Happy thanks giving from Canada 🇨🇦 you lucky son of a gun I would love that truck would be cooler as a dually but I love it either way good for you you were just saying in a video I watched were you lined up all your trucks but a first gen good for you it’s beautiful lol
Put an external voltage regulator in it. ECM in 92-93 have internal voltage problems. I can work on that inside and out with multiple parts trucks. Good score man.
Cool old truck, manual hub locks are nice.
Bloody hell I wish I got a deal like this that’s a steal !!! Lucky man
She’s a great truck. Sure will miss her.
Love it man, trucks awsome, and that intro... 👌 🔥😂
My faith in you ever getting a 95-97 7.3 powerstroke is growing thin...
nice find though, so cant be too disappointed.. enjoy !
awesome score! i would rock that all week. gotta be one of my favorite channels
I got a 93 Dually ext cab that belonged to my Grandpa. Got a Cummins out of a 2006 going in mated to a Eaton 10 speed. Waiting on Knaphiede to get my Aluminum Flatbed done. Ready for paint and 22 inch Alcoas
The springs are factory inverted like that. Square body chevs are the same way. Sweet buy!
Regarding your charging problem, install a 70\80's vintage standard voltage regulator and bypass the factory wiring running the charge wire direct to the battery ( min. of a 6 ga. ) and add a volt gauge to monitor the charge voltage. Keep the fuseable link to protect the chassis wiring.
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IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN OL SON!!!!!
Man thats a beauty been wanting 1 of them for years
Young and strong and full of Cummins ! Found another mayflower in your price range . Great Deal and even does tree work in your spare time ?
Been waiting on this gen!!
A few months ago there was one at a local auction that went for 4500. A dealer bought it, had a Maaco paint job put on it and sold it for 12K. Dammit I should have bought that sucker.
I recently saw a '92 at $3,500 which needed new paint and tires but it was 200 miles away and the seller said it was probably best to trailer it - cracked tires, so I passed. It had the NV4500 five speed.
Love these trucks...wish I could find one for basically nothing
Finally you got a square body for da channel!
Sir how did you get a nice first gen for 500 bucks
Borgenson steering shaft and red head box will do wonders
Crank position sensor...!!
What a great find....
Hows the death wobble....
Got to lock those hubs....never never have I stuck mine in 4x4.
I wish i could find a 1st Gen for even 4k cheapest around here is 7-8k
😍 $500?!! I’m jealous!!!
That era the voltage regulation for the alternator was PCM controlled. Back in the 90s I use to convert them over to the old external regulator that you mount to the firewall. It's been awhile but if I remember right the green wire at the alternator is the wire you run to the external regulator and bypass the PCM.
I'm going by 25 years ago memory so check a wiring diagram.
On edit: I see the tach signal was missing. You can also check alternator by full fielding the alternator with the green wire.
Loved the little skit you did. Lol
Nice pick! I've got a 92 club cab, about 500k miles. Rusty but trusty.
Ad an external voltage regulator and fuse block to swap the fusible links, manual button for grid heater and run a cable to shut off the fuel delete the fuel shut off solenoid so it’ll stay running with no power.
These are what I did to eliminate a few “dodge” problems nothing beats a Cummins
SWEET love love love these trucks keep her stock
Very cool. 8ft bed suits the truck.
Had the same problem with my 90 model it's voltage regulator was on the fender
if you go flat bed, swap a dually rear into it. i know that dont help being a 3/4 ton frame but flatbeds only look good on duallys imo lol
Glad you got a bandit! Nice 1st gen too
Nice truck at a nice price. I have a twin to it here in PA. Dad bought. It new with the getrag 5 speed. When the bearings went out a little over 100 k swapped to the nv4500. Every time I take it out someone wants to buy it. I started telling them the price
The price is a tittle to a brand new truck of my choice. LOL they don't keep bugging me after that
I’m new to the channel and your videos are my favorite
Blue top makes a good steering gearbox for ya. Sweet deal on that rig!
Please build it lol.. Need some more first gen content in my life.
What an awesome deal! Can’t believe it’s in that shape for such a low price!
Me either hau
Pro tip guys: If you have your insurance fixing anything on your Cummins, make sure to claim everything you can! Made the mistake recently of telling mine that they didn't need to include some things on my 3rd gen. I was worried about them totalling it out... In the end, they told me it didn't even get close to totalled and I can't add that stuff back on 🤬 If they tell you it's officially totalled, then tell them to take things off (cosmetic of course) until it's just under totalled!
Time for a p pump swap and g56
Ok I'm on my way down will 5k fresh bills then
Hey Sam check the rear brakes if they are out of adjustment the pedal will fell soft
The voltage regulator is in the computer which was never any good, i installed a 1 wire alternator and bypassed the computer. Works great easy fix .
It’d be like Christmas if I could find one for $500
Pretty sweet old truck!
That all you needed to say broth...!!!
You had me at DODGE...!!!
Anybody getting rid of any 1st Gen. 12 valve at $500.00 due to a charging issue is just plain stupid.
Especially since restored and upgraded ones are fetching as much as much as $30,000, between the Dodge and Survivalist communities (All mechanical, no emissions controls; can run various forms of diesel).
Bigger fish to fry
@@VBELTandSON Huh?
It means the old owner was done with the truck and had bigger stuff to worry about. They didn’t know what the issue was and they couldn’t figure it out. So they got rid of it for cheap.
@@VBELTandSON So in other words, they did the typically Umerican thing and let something go, not doing their research and realizing that they should have asked more, considering the more recently discovered value in these trucks, due to their simplicity, efficiency and reliability, whether theirs was running or not.
Couldn't resist. I work in retail, doing both buying and selling and I'm seeing I.Q.'s drop in this country year-after-year.
Sorry Vbelt but I’m calling Bullshit. I am a diesel truck dealer and there is no humanly possible way you paid $500 for that 1st gen. If it started and ran I would pay $4-$5000 for it
That's a great find!!
The beginning reminds me of the old Earnest movies with the different personalities.
This is just pure entertainment and a lot of funny people
My grandpa had one pulled a travel trailer and a boat at the same time behind it great truck
Love all the trucks
To have a shop like that is a dream. I also have 2 12 valves and to 08s. Any recommendations of locations to start up a shop( or buy property) like that?
Love the intro nicely done 😊😊😊😊
Nice truck dude
Sweet truck dude 😄👍
oooo hehe, im gettin a first gen here pretty soon. for only 200 bucks but its gonna be so much money to build 😩
I had a 92 that wouldn’t charge, first thing you should always do to a first gen is out an external voltage regulator on it
Man this is so cool Buddy ! I thought you was joking with the $500 😅 just awesome! Btw last again...🤷🏻♂️
You know that pond between us screws up timing lol
@@jayg479 yes a little bit lol
Has to be my 1st gen's twin brother! Mine has cab lights and a dually.
Wow that looks amazing
Funny....Because I just bought a 1987 Dodge D-250 utility for $200 yes it runs. Just need to fix the cables going to the speedo and all other gauges
I HAVE A 92 4x4 5 sod it’s same truck as this only paint is bad I have offers every time I drive it, last offer was 15..000 cash ,another guy offered a 2011 4x4 auto Cummins even swap ,seems everybody want these truck more than the new ones
Hell yeah nice score
That 1st gen looks good 👍
Intro was great lmao
Having over 200k miles I probably wouldn't pay anymore than 6k is a really nice single cab though. Originally I wanted a single cab mine is the Extended though so its kinda nice to have the extra space. Was 9k for mine with 113k which is well worth it.
4x4?
They ride rough as hell but sweet old trucks
best truck ever!!!!! just call it a tranck already half truck half tank!!
Absolute steal...in the midwest barely running that would still go for a few thousand, 8k as you have it setup now.
Now its on
Hell yeah love me a 1st gen
MMM i like it, it remind me of the squarebody Chevy's my family had growing up. But with a much better Diesel engine :)
Man my 92 d250 doesn't have a crank sensor, I am glad lol.