Why I quit the Big 4 - CA Articleship
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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✻ This has been one of the most requested videos on my channel. As a Chartered Accountancy (CA) student, I too had the big dream of working at the Big 4. My dream came true. But here I will take you through the 5 reasons why I quit working at the Big 4.
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Thank you for this honest video. I always thought big four culture to be kind of toxic but most of the chartered accountants talk with pride about their work experience there. Kudos to you ❤️
Such an honest sharing... i had almost the same experience and I always thought i am the odd one out... good to know somebody feels the same way..
Pls give me ur email id .. I am too facing issue like this..I m 30 and doing final...I doubt of doing this course
they talk with pride to hide their situation in big four
@@cahardiksingh6332 true!
@CNC Institute Institute
Extremely relatable! Worked in one of the Big 4 for a year as an article trainee (joined a week just before lockdown 😭🤦♂️). There's literally no work life balance even after having work from home. Nobody cares about you unless it comes to work. Always chasing deadlines and closing the engagements. I was not learning anything new which would have a value addition from academics point of view or professional point of view. Worse of all, health took a serious toll. I have taken the bold decision to leave EY and joined in a smaller firm. Very much satisfied that I took the right decision.
Hey Sai Sirish,
How are you now?
I have read your answers on quora many time. It's disheartening that you have to face all this. I hope you are doing well now! Take care!
@@muskanvarshney8233 Hello Muskan. I'm doing fine now. Recovering slowly.
Hey sai , good to see you here bro
Heyy same I have also read your answer on quora .Feeling very nice to see you here
I have been putting efforts just to get selected there . Till today haven't received any communication .
I was working at big 4, i survived actually for 1.5 years, felt like you are telling my story, i used to cry every single day and everyone who will be reading the comment just know that in the moment you will feel,may be i am not having enough knowledge,may be i am lacking but no if you are in toxic environment you will feel in just some weeks only , try to gather all your thoughts basically why you are doing the job ,do you really want to do ,do you have really any area of interest if not then do quit and start to analyse what career you actually and what job will actually fit you well 🤞
It’s exactly what I’m going through right now. I have such toxic seniors and managers that are really unsupportive and would unnecessarily yell at you. I joined here with hope of doing my best as it’s my first job but I’ve lost all my spark and just want to resign.
My manager speaks to me in a way as if I owe him 16 hours of my day. Review starts after 9PM and it goes on till midnight. I quit my job in 2 months. 90% of the things she spoke is what I faced from Day 1 as a qualified. I am confident on my work and my capabilities and I know that the Big 4 will extract your soul to get the work done. Will explore a good job role now.
Soo true, its just been 3 months and I am not able to come to terms with this toxic culture and bizarre expectations. Seriously stuck - and amidst corona I’m confused to take this call to quit.
@@radha124 Even in today's era Corporate Social Responsibility would mean enough if they do not donate in cash and treat employee fair.
Same here I’m going through that now!!
Do they give overtime payment?
@@renukabenpatel8693 no!!!!
Exactly, no work life balance, I recently joined BDO at forensic audit as a complete fresher, I am an intern so the point you shared about not fully compensated feel so real! On my first day they assigned me work , thinking i know everything ( I clearly mentioned in my interview that I was a fresher and never worked in this field) I worked till 10 at night on my first day and the next day I started at 9 and was working till 7 and still my senior was expecting me to work more hours , I literally lied and told her that I have another part time job from 7-9 at night so I cannot extend beyond 6:30 but I have compensate the time by starting at 8 in the morning!! Literally I have friends who take pride in working long hours with no work life balance, I legit don’t understand them
And still they don't give you extra work?
Hey what was the pay?@
Thank you so much for your honest and candid experience, Mehar! You hit the nail on the head describing the experience as many of my friends and I have endured the same things you’ve gone through as well. You’re so brave for sharing your story and empowering all of us to take that necessary step to leave for our mental and physical health. I can’t thank you enough for this.
Mehar! You're such an inspiration! My love and respect toward you keeps increasing day by day through your videos. Thank you so much for such open talks on your experiences, I bet each one of us would feel low and go through such issues, but learning from them and becoming a person who inspires others is what matters and I'm learning that from you! You are such a great personality ❤️Glad to know you❤️ Much love and power to you❤️
Thanks for such an honest video on your experience at the big4. I myself have worked at both the big4s that you mentioned and have had similar experiences. It’s unbelievable how employees are treated as mere “resources”!! I left the big4 after about 7 years and started my own venture..and I have to put it out there..I didn’t ever learn as much at the big4 as I did by trying to build my own venture! They expect you to work on a certain domain in a certain industry and there is this pre-defined xyz process and presentation format for everything which in the end really limits your outlook to see the business/industry as a whole! Having said that, the entire experience did hone my leadership skills and helped develop my overall personality but that’s about it! I have some sour memories and would not recommend staying there for long other than maybe in the initial years of your career! Whats sad is that in the industry as a whole, having a big4 badge is considered a big deal and does act as a stepping stone! Hope to change this one day.
This video will be an Eye - opener for many of the aspirants..Thank you Mehar for enlightening on this subject, I will be sharing the same who reach out to me whether they should join the big 4 or not ! At-least they will be knowing whether they are mentally prepared for it or not because this is what actually is there !
The fact that it is relatable to so many people in the comment section is enough to conclude that things like these aren't an exception, but the actual reality of their culture. Either you be like them or leave them, there is no midway.
Currently, as an article in Mid-size firm I am facing similar challenges, I used to regret why I didn't not wait for 6 months and clear the other group to join Big 4.
Thank you for opening my eyes didi. It will help me in better decision.
You are just awesome! ♥️
This really helped. I am stuck in the same situation and this is what I needed to hear. A reflection. Needed to know that I am not the only one. Thank you for being candid.
Likewise, I think every one of us from the same course are facing the same issues. We as a student at age of 20, are not capable enough to understand what are we meant for! Plus the age from 20-22 is the most precious age band to learn about ourselves and to make life changing decisions. When we start working, then we explore and understand the real potential and interest of oneself. Your story is so relatable to most of us working at same position. Thanks for sharing. I hope your mental health has recovered and wish you best for your success.
Hey, this is literally so me. I was in the exact same position but this things happened me in small firm . My mental health was at stake. In was anxious every second and couldn't stand for myself. I always thought that why can't I be a people pleaser just like others, just hated myself. But finally i stopped giving a damn to what were they gossiping about me and so i m a bit of relaxed now. And here ur video pops up which is giving me a warmth of i m not the only one. Please make a video on ur development of confidence. And yes now i perceive u as an idol that if u can come out of that shit and grow so better so could I . Lots of love didi🥰
This feeling is mutual.. I went through the same kinda experience as well..n I know what does it mean to loose confidence at such an early age..!!
@@nirvibhayani42 Hii
You are so so strong . Thankfully I m out of that shit now. Not that they stopped playing mind games with me but now I learnt my worth take every day as blessing. Now I m no more anxious. Yes some time I do get that same old feeling of being depressed nd what if people see me as a fool but then why should it matter what they think about me. My family nd close friends know the real me. And so might b in ur case. Believe me u'll get out of this really soon. If I can so why can't u. I believe in u. My damn strong girl. Would b praying for u to my krishna wherever u r. May krishna bless u. Jay shree Krishna. ❤
Hey Mehar! First of all hats off to the courage you have to speak about your fears openly. Me being a CA final student i could totally relate to each and everything you said . i never enjoyed audit or taxation. It would really be helpful if you make more videos on identifying the right career n dealing with office politics. You're such an inspiration so many people out there.
Keep up the great work.
Well done Mehar, You did the right thing in the right time and you rightly said, what is the use of such money if your mental health is suffering. After watching this video, I felt that you are the real person who is successful in her life and give honest advice to others.
Thanks for making such videos and you inspired a lot to us.
This was such a fresh and honest perspective on the big4s...... thank you for widening all of our vision and showing us the "big" picture.
More love and support to you mam! :)
Hi Mehar, I'm first time watching ur video and after seeing ur video I could feel u are saying my story. Even I was fascinated with big 4 in my college. I was fortunate enough to clear my interview in one of the big 4. I was hired as Tax Consultant but due to toxic work culture, unbalanced work life, pressure to work 55hrs per week etc. I decide to quit the job within 6 months. Now I learning new skills and trying to build a good career by starting fresh again.
I could very much relate with this video. This is my story as well!!!
Thank you so much ma'am for making this video ❤️This video just touched my heart ❤️ Your 2nd project in KPMG and all events aligned to is something i am going through currently💯❣️
I Can’t agree more!! Thank you so much for sharing your honest experience. I am currently working in one of the big 4 and I can absolutely relate to everything you talked about. This is my first job and I was a new hire with no prior experience, and I feel the same way you described in the video. Also thanks a lot for talking about mental health, since I have started feeling disturbed due to my job I am planning to quit real soon. I too feel I do not belong here. I am glad to be a part of your fam ☺️
hey is it necessary to get a rank to enter a big 4?
Same thing I am also going through…
So so brave of you to come forward and speak about it. Absolutely loved that you spoke it with utmost honesty and shown a clear picture about what the reality is. I somehow knew about this extreme work conditions from my friends and I took a decision that I will not sacrifice on my mental health and I joined a decent mid-size firm which has the bestest work environment and culture. But there was this thing in my mind that It would have been more better to join Big4s as they pay you more than mid-sizes.
But now after watching this video, I again came to the point that whatever the payout maybe, you should not compromise on your mental health. You have to put yourself ahead of everything else.
Thank you for this eye opening video! 😄
Hello Deven, if you dont mind, can you share the name of the decent mid-size firm which had good working environment, and in which city.
Thank you so much Ma'am , please keep it up that type of thing. We audience demand facts &u are giving this is awesome
It needs a lot of gut to speak up and being so honest. The more I see you, the more I'm inspired ma'am. So honest, so candid and you literally just make all of us feel like it's okay to feel a very certain way! ❤️ Lots of love to you ma'am.
Thank you so so much for this superb amazing video. 🤩 Yes, you should certainly be more youuuu, cause that inspires us the most 😍
Thank you Amrita. That’s so kind of you 💗🙏🏼
Sending you lots of love 💕 stay safe and healthy 😘
This is an absolute eye opener! Pls do share your experience after leaving the Big 4 and something about your current job, it would be highly helpful!
You’re my inspiration! 🤗♥️
I did my articleship in a mid-sized firm. It was not as bad as the Big4 but I felt that I didn't belong.. I got into teaching as soon as I completed my articleship and I have not been happier :)
Wah! That's my plan too..!
I am also waiting to start my PhD. With my CMA I think it will be a beautiful combination.
Hello ma'am. Hope you are doing good. 😊 I really loved how you were very honest about your initial career journey in this video. And it's really inspiring how you overcame all the huddles and became the confident person you are today. I know it's not easy and doesn't happen overnight. But I'm really so happy for you and for everything you do for young students and employees like us. You are truly an inspiration. And it's so soothing to hear you always. Much love to you. 🤗💞
One more great video.
Loved your honesty. Kudos to you❤️❤️
Did my articleship at a mid size firm.. the pressure to meet deadlines was just like she mentioned. Would have to work overtime too but the work environment was very warm and supportive
Amazing and it also needs courage to take a bold decisions in life...it's inspiring! Thank you for sharing your honest experience 😊
such a wonderful yet inspiring chit-chat session. lots of love!!
Your best video till yet, love the honesty! Keep it up!
That was really insightful! Thank you
Kudos to you for being very honest. More strength and luck , all the best .✨✨
Mehar, completely relatable, it's absolutely same even now, faced even worse in Articleship during 1st lockdown, I have recently quit KPMG.
Why?
I totally agree with you. This video is so relatable..and the best part is you talk about those people who r kept bitching about other people and become so sweet in front of those same people,whom they are bitching about..I just hate these people😑..
But keep going🖤
I always find my friends working at a big four complaining about the same issues. It really doesn't feel like a good environment to be working in for short term let alone a longer one. Thank you for putting in the effort to guide us. It really helps in making career choices
Just what i needed to watch.
Very beautifully articulated!
Personally felt every word of yours:)
Thanks for sharing all your positive and negative experience it helped me to get more clear about my goals regarding CA, before entering CA course I always wanted to do my training from Big Fours... But after watching your video and also conversing with some other CA's I found clarity towards my goals and long term plans, thus now I am more motivated and am more focused on my studies and goals, I'm not very good with following orders and working under someone, so it will be best for me to start from working at a mid size firm and then making my own firm. Thank You Very Much.
Thankyou for this video ❤ Such an honest video. Also Di you are very beautiful!
Thank you for this video. A real eye- opener🙏
Hi Mehar, i could completely relate with your experiences🙂.. the same thing may happen in mid and small CA firms also.. I really appreciate the way you honestly shared your experience.. Would really be helpful for students.
Felt like you spoke my heart out
You are such a lovely person . I just love to listen your experiences ,it gives me courage to face difficult situations . Even I had a bad experience at school which affected my self-esteem but after listening to you am feeling so better . ❤️🙏
Hey your videos are amazing. I had the similar experience wherein I worked for financial audit and later moved on to the risk advisory. Your video is so relatable it made me felt as if I am sharing my experience. Would love to connect with you in person. I am glad that I found your channel.
extremely relatable. i had literally no training on the job when i was on the audit. Its all look back in past papers, which were done poorly looking back, and try to do it yourself.
As an ex audit associate in the same firm I totally get what you are saying. Each point you have explained is exactly what everyone faces.
That was a much needed video for sure..👏
Super relatable! It was as if whatever experience i had you were saying.
Felt so good that I am not the odd one out ❤️
It was so connecting🖤
Thanks for your true views.
On point..can relate 💯. Thank for sharing
Mam plz reply🙏.
Imagine if you are today an 18-20 years old girl n u have to decide that where to go so now 👉will u choose CA or will u choose specifically Finance, Accounting, Banking sort of fields or something else.
Thank you so much ma'am for this video 😊😎
Thank you for sharing your honest opinion as it made me feel that i was not the only one going through it.
I was blaming myself for not reaching their expectations, but later realised that it wasn't my fault instead it's their's for not providing proper guidance and i quit the firm.
But it was too late and by the time i quit, my health got severely damaged both mentally and physically :(
I completely understand. Hope you’re doing better now 💗💗
Such a honest sharing of your experience mehar ...Keep doing such videos and more power to you
My heart goes out listening to you.. well done Mehar..for going through this journey...I hope you follow your heart and May all your dreams come true🌺
Love you ma 🤗♥️
How many of here from koushal sir interview?
Yes I am. TQ ma'am.
Can you give the link to koushal sir interview?
I can very much relate to what you just said. I was in a corporate job (internal audit) in 2021 and I was really liking it but still wasn't satisfied. In Oct, Deloitte came knocking on my door with a package and a location so lucrative that one just couldn't say no. But when I got to know about the work culture BIG-4 has, I knew I'll lose myself as a person. They called me several times to come join them but in the end, it wasn't for me. I am a CMA and luckily the education has kept me in a job. Now I work for a university as their Chief Auditor (and I am loving it here) and looking forward to getting my PhD started.
I can truly resonate with u .. The same thng happened to me as well.. Took so much time to rebuild my confidence
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Thank u Ma'am for sharing your experience.....
Completely relatable, even i had to leave the same org. because my executive was worse in behaviour and made my life hell. They fail to understand that we are new joinees with no prior experience.
So fucking relatable. I have worked for 2 of the big 4 that you haven't worked in. easy to guess? Let me tell you you have narrated my story in the video. Thank you
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Thank you so much mam for your honest review. It really helps new CA students like me, I am so confused that where should I do my articleship , your help me a lot to clear that confussion.
Soo relatable 💯💯
I had also quit by my articleship from a big4 mid way.
I could so much relate with your story💯
Thank you for being honest
After becoming ca should i join big 4 or mid size ca firm if i want a proper work life balance along with knowledge and in 1-2 years be open for big companies.
Please make a video on how internal audit is practically done at big 4s!
Thank you so much di for such a honest video..i really appreciate that you shared your experience.
Same happened with me in my school-days. I remember when I was in 9th standard I used to be beaten up and got scolded by my mathematics teacher just because I used to take maths tuition classes from another teacher( his rival). That all this beating and disrepect had hit me so hard that I started hating Mathematics and School including my school- friends who used to make a fun of me. My self esteem became zero. Later on I changed my school eventually. This whole incident still traumatized me. Even at this time I really don't like to get along with friends who were there at that time. I know how it feels like in a company or a circle where you are constantly judged, mistreated by people who you thought to be your well-wisher once. But it's good to come out of it strongly, take a exit from those toxic people and be brave enough to take your stand when it seems the whole world is against you.
Wow bro your problem are very serious at that time 😮 at the age of 16 in class 9th this kind of behaviour by teachers such a traumatising
very practical and emotional
I loved this vedio the most Mehar ! The honesty with which u portrayed your journey is commendable! More power to you !
Thank you Jheel 💗🙏🏼😊
Thank you for telling the honest experience.....not everyone has that courage to talk about their mental health and the hardships they have faced during their articleship in big 4.
🤗🤗💗 I’m so glad you found my story useful Pallavi. Lots of love
there are just some evil people out there who don't want you to do good in your career and they give bad advice
I loved this vedio💯
Mental health comes first👍
I had the exact same situation as you had. The only thing was I answered them back when I was mocked.
As a result I was seen as a wicked person till the end of my articleship.
More or less it’s the same either you cry or you are cornered
I totally feel u... I am from a science side...Gone through the same feeling in another audit firm with no knowledge of accounting But i came to be among the best in that toxic environment...Learned so much there... Independence, personal develpment, knowledge But I left the job... Completed my ACA studies and now trying to find a job...Though I so want to be an entrepreneur.... Living a happy life 😉
So brave of you! Keep it up
Hi mehar, thankyou so much for sharing this, whatever you have said about work being monotoneous and it starts affecting our mental health, currently i am going through a similar situation in my articleship, since past 1.5 years i have almost worked in gst department and other departments when there were last dates and deadlines, they are actually using me and thinking of me as a replacement of their past employee who used to do all work in just 9k and now they are making me file gst returns of 160+ clients, the mental stress is unbearable that i want to die now, and now they dont have anyone else to do their gst and i am going to say no for this work because if i wont say no they are going to keep.exploiting me. This video is giving me hope now that i will be able to survive.
Also i always wanted to be a CA, even though i am in a small firm who are friends of my cousin, they are constantly taking advantage of me, giving all the clients my number, msging me on whatsapp since morning to night and plus On a SUNDAY too, My mother is always worried about me because end up crying whenever i come home, and now i can not tolerate anymore, articleship is not slavery.
Nice video very helpful and informative 🙏
Thank you for sharing your experience and wish you all the best
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I feel each word she said...I been through same...i wish these discussions saves few from such toxic environment
I am so happy to have found you❤️. Better late than never. I am a CA Final student myself 😀. You really inspire me. Thank you ❤️. Already subscribed😎.
Thank you for the honest review ma'am.
Thank you for sharing this :)
Thanks alot mam...I have recently completed my articleship from KPMG..and your experience sounded similar like mine..though I had doubts regarding quitting a Big4 right after articleship...this video really helped alot..thanks!!
So relatable..going through it right now !
I'm down 1.5 years of my articleship. Thinking of quiting the MNC but not able to. What should be done ?
You're very strong Mehar❤️
Namasthe mam
I got this video in my youtube recommendation yesterday only
The moment i started seeing the video I was feeling so happy that I got a true and an honest opinion
As soon as the video got over I subscribed your channel
You deserve more followers ,more likes and more viewers.
My prayers and wishes will be always there for you mam
Please keep uploading more and more videos mam
Take care and be safe
Thank you so so much mam
Nice and honest video.
Wow, I really had a very nice boss. He was so sweet, encouraging and always took care of us. He never forced us to work overtime, instead requested us if there was a need.
10K p.m for 60-70 hour week.
*goes to corner and Cries in 3K for 80+ hr workweeks
We always have our problems.. but don't compare that we also have our problems
See I'm doing my industrial training in 3rd year , I know my 80+ hours in my frst 2 years are no match with 40 hours schedule
In corporate world , we always have deadlines for every project and the office politics makes life even harder. Articles mein aap ka kaam aap hi karegaa , thoda late hua toh , boss chillayega bas
But here if you are not giving your 120% or meeting deadlines , you will knockdown , there will be 40-50 articles , you are easily replacable ,. That's a horrific nightmare , everyday constant pressure , you don't know that feeling in your 80+ things , so please stop comparing , please spread positivity
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Thanks for the video ma'am , I am a newly qualified CA and i am about start job in Deloitte in Transfer Pricing . This video made me feel that i should rethink my decision .
I recently quit my job at one of the Big4 and I can finally breathe! I relate to everything you said and more... It's so not worth it.
I can imagine your articleship days mam.But hats off to you, you withstand all difficulties and now your a successful professional 👏🏽Proud of you mam❤
The most honest video in the world of crooks!
That's so true, the overall key is to have a good manager in big4 (which we have zero control on), if you don't then it would be tough to survive. Having overall 4 years in big4 consulting, I can say, you learn from end to end how to run a project at very junior level. However, mental health should be our first priority, and I would suggest being your own advocator if you are working in big4.
Hello Ma'am! Thank you for sharing this one..
Now, I'm like after clearing I should not take up as Audit a career.
My articles just got over and I'm going to appear for Nov 21 exams
I joined a mid sized firm which had some big clients as well. Btw, your experience is something to which I can relate 100%
as I have suffered alot and cried almost everyday during the last 1.5 years. And I literally hate the job of Audit and I also find it very unsuitable for me.
When I say Audit is not suitable many incl. Manager & Partners & Faculties in MCS etc generally say that after CA it won't be like that and since you were article you felt so..
I was bit confused for a while. Although I was careful to not make this mistake again.
Thanks for video and I'm bit relaxed and got clarified from your experiences
I am glad i found this video!!!❤
I was about to join a articlefirm but was confused in which one should i go for!?
Now i have a clarity and yes thankyou so much for sharing your experience
I subbed you❤✔️
Hi Meher, I have completed about 8 months at P wC for articleship and the work culture here feels exactly like you mentioned. I am just lost here. I honestly didn't expect such similar things to happen in a firm that i got through with so many hardships and challenges. But a week ago along with my mom i have come down to the decision of quitting this firm and shifting to another firm. But still just need to ask you...is it okay to quit and will I manage to get another firm? 🙁
Very inspiring and motivating 💜
I started my articleship in a Mid sized firm right before my 4th attempt of Intermediate grp 2. I had many hobbies that i had to let go for the sake of the degree and now for the sake of articleship, the problems I faced are the same as you mentioned and I've decided to leave after 4 months of working here. Giving the exam during this period was also very demotivating. I've also realised that Auditing isn't for me at all but should i also wait and complete the articleship somehow before quitting?