Trijicon RMR HD - The RMR We've Been Waiting For!
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- We have the first, first look at the new Trijicon RMR HD optic designed for pistol use. The new RMR HD addresses the complaints of the original RMR when used on a handgun. The new HD has that familiar look and feel but with a bigger window, new forward light sensor, reticle and finally a top mounted battery! Check it and see some detailed close ups of all that new goodness! Is this The RMR we've Been Waiting For?
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0:32 Start
15:37 Price & Availability
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$850? Heck no…Trijicon has lost their damn minds
it's 645
You lack critical thinking. They want military and police contacts so it gonna be high. After the hype is gone the price will come down to normal RMR prices.
@@AmericanConstitutionalist exactly.
@@AmericanConstitutionalist “Contacts” or “contracts” maybe you lack grammar skills.
@@juanh.8707 Listen I just woke up to this bs. One word is misspelled. 😐 You still lack critical thinking skills.
Knowing Trijicon it’s going to be 999$ with 8 month backorder 😂.. They came to the party late.
God, I know… you couldn’t even get 6 moa SRO in stock.
$849 on their website
@@TheRobocop23 online retail like EuroOptic sells it for $600+
Party late? It’s the return of the king!
Lens too close to chamber.
Nice to see trijicon finally catching up to Holosun 😂
Catching up? Nah, not even close.
Holosun is still far behind. Just because they put a cheap solar panel on top and make a bunch of models of the same design doesn't make them better. They're nice for the price but they can't match Trijicon's durability.
@@AmericanConstitutionalist it was a joke…hence the 😂
@@tonsofgunsoffun8516 mb
Got mine brand new at my LGS for $647. So far 500 rounds on a gen 5 19. Keeper.
Very excited. Thanks for the early review!
Msrp around $850. Minimum advertised pricing of around $650. In this market, that’s nuts.
@@assclapper2231Stop being a cuck for corporate executives who want bigger yachts.
Good to see Trijicon finally attempting to compete; however, that price is delusional. Double the competition for something barely on par? Reminds me of the RMRcc.
Brain dead take.
#1 The price will come down.
#2 It's most likely beyond on par just like the previous RMR (Durability, NV Performance, Longevity, etc)
#3 It's made in the good old us of a brother yeee yeeee grab you partner its time for a square dancin 🇺🇸🦅🔥🇺🇸🔥🔥🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
Compete, they built the best red dot, from the jump. All Holosun did was made a version, they didn’t reinvent anything.
it's $645
Ordered the HD last night Dave. Everything I've wanted from an RMR for my home defense "nightstand queen" Glock 19 with a WML no doubt. Thanks so much for your time and well thought out presentations. I really like my RM06 HRS, but this beats it hands down in almost every aspect. Well, maybe not aesthetically.. Ha! Keep on rock'n and stay safe. Thin blue line my brother.
Fat Bottom Girl
Great review. Appreciate you being unbiased. Also, thank you for not reading the specs and saying you did a review. 😂. I’m definitely coming here first when you have a new product review.
Fuck yeah finally!!! Just in time for my local gun show!
I recently just bought the RMR04 (the dual illuminated) model. Really like it so far...
Great features, but that is a steep price, I would like to see a model with just a dot and button lockout. Kinda like what holosun did with the 407c and 507c. I would pay sro prices for an rmr with holosun features. Great first look Dave!
Now there is a chance of buying a RMR, good job Trijicon
For 850? Thanks but 407c and more ammo is a better choice
@@gansior4744 definitely won’t be paying $850 for it.
@@gansior4744 The price will come down and the rmr will outlast any holosun. So if you want longevity Trijicon if you want cheap but usable Holosun.
Always enjoy the content!, looks like a nice Optic with lots of options. I do think the msrp. We'll scare some people off.
The people who need it will buy it. Sounds like a NV dream. The foward brightness sensor would be great for NV transitioning from low light (ir) to bright light. (white, inside a building)
Nice detailed review and appreciate the coverage. As much as I want one i cant justify the price with other companies already doing some of the upgrades the RMR HD and RCR are doing. off topic, I noticed at 8:32 in the video your SRO has a BUIS notch. Is that a different model or an add on piece somehow? I have never seen that before.
Shadow coming Monday but going to wait to get this HMR now that I backordered it to pair them and run it .
Everything i wanted from the rmr, too bad it wont be compatible with the calculated kinetics dogtag. Guess im sticking with the 508t
I wish they would make a type 3 with some of the features of the HD like the top load battery,multi reticles, and button lockout.
I’ll hold out for the closed emitter variant. Not enough for me here to warrant swapping out my Type 2 Adjustable RMR’s just yet. Looking forward to watching Aaron abuse these beyond belief over on his channel though. Side note, my Holosun EPS that’s been living on my current EDC has thoroughly impressed me to actually warrant trusting the company. Solid pricing as well.
1000 msrp lol
@@beasmode18try 646$
@@assclapper2231 A joke that clearly went over your lobotomized head 🤡
Closed emitter? What you mean?
Now we only have to wait 1 year plus after it releases for this and RCR to catch up with demand. SROs have just been available recently without backorder or insane markups.
? A few months ago I seen sros going for 400 at a psa and another site I can’t recall..
@@MrLucht SROs have only come back in stock and not back ordered the last couple of months. I personally knew people who sold their SRO for $700+ back when demand was crazy only like a year ago.
They released it in 2019 so think about that. It's taken something like 3+ years to become reasonably priced and in stock.
@@2amichaelj that’s absurd they’re great sights for sure. But not that good lol
@@MrLucht I think Covid taught us a lot on how fragile the supply chain issue can get and how much even American companies and manufacturers rely on bar stock metals and components from other countries.
It's good to know good people. I was able to get this for $700 cash (no tax) and way ahead of actual release date. Very nice optic.
Solid review. Speaking for myself, if the price comes down to about $600-ish I might be interested in this or the RCR. Otherwise I'll just buy an Acro P2 or a 508T if I need to stick with the RMR footprint. It is good to see Trijicon listening to their customers and following the current trends though.
Only took them like 3 years ...and even then, they didn't give us the RMR we wanted, they just hacked up an SRO... And nearly doubled the price.
"Current trends" for Trijicon is what everyone else has been doing for 5 years or more.
This thing is hours old... And already getting roasted all over the internet.
the price is 600
@@ro794 That would be awesome if it was true, but the MSRP of both of the RMR HD and the RCR is $849.
The rmr you were asking for at the price you can’t afford. Good job!
Why trust your life with a open emitter?
You can blow water off, mud will render it useless.
I’d prefer a us company, but holosun owns the pistol optic market right now.
50,000 hours battery life, solar fail safe if battery dies
Shake awake
3 reticles
Comes in green
Eps carry is closed emitter and literally half the price with all of these features.
As far as the dot, I like to run mine where in dark areas the dot goes away and I just use my night sights. They are easy to see the tritium. And the dot fights them for attention.
We need a company to make a prism optic for people with astigmatism.
I’m left handed so for holsters, I’m usd to making it work.
For my echelon I have a de santis kydex with blade tech clip mounts so I can use the locking clips or the iwb clips.
Sometimes you just gotta grab a torch and drill and hope for the best. 😂
So you don't trust an open emitter optic but you'll trust a chinese optics shake awake feature? This new rmr has 4-6 years of battery life so no need for a shake awake feature. The price will come down, the type-2 was $800 when it first came out too. Also closed emitters have their share of problems. P2s, EPSs, and 509s have been found to have moisture inside the lens and have durability issues.
I don't think a prism optic on a handgun would work. The eye relief would have to be magical far.
Oh hell ya 🎉
I think people are gonna buy this in droves…cuz they’re fans of trijicon and have a certain bias. But anyone who is more objective (and maybe value minded) probably won’t make this their first choice when there are others that offer more for less. Thanks for the first look! Really want to hear more about their enclosed optic!
Yea I’m not paying the price of another gun for a optic or wmL
They are completely out of touch. This thing is still about 5 years behind the curve.
Trijicon is turning into the Apple of the optics world.
I like trijicon, I own 4 or 5 RMRs, I own an ACOG, and several sets of there night sights... and I wouldn't buy that at half the MSRP.
This is the type of stupid that turns me away from a company... Incorporate features that other manufacturers have had, rearrange a few things, call it new and improved, and jack up the price...
Nah, this is just going to keep pushing people into Holosun. Which is where I've been heading for the last year or so.
@@joeytomato I think that’s a great comparison and in many ways, I think Glock falls in the same category. They don’t innovate, they tend to rest in their one flagship product/platform and just think that people will be satisfied. Sorry but as a consumer, I want people to fight for my business so I appreciate and will go towards companies like Holosun cuz of the value and willingness to push for more.
@@artimla492They don’t innovate as fast, rushing product to market which imo maintains their reputation as an industry standard in reliability. They made changes from RMR 1 to 2 and don’t make gimmicks like solar power and they continue to work.
What about racking a round using the housing with the forward facing sensor ?
I'm not sure how I like the glass pushed forward like the SRO. It just puts the glass closer to the exhaust from the ejection port and prohibits the use of forward irons just to allow for a top-load battery which isn't really a big deal. And for $800... Man, Trijicon is really banking on the fanboys to come through in this market where you can already get a reliable red dot with all of these features for $200.
In your continued use, do you find that the additional overhang of the new RMR causes any ejection related issues with Staccato? I'm getting my first Staccato soon and that's my only concern with this optic, it's very close to the ejection port
the RCR is the only one I care about
Yeah, close emitter on RMR pattern is great. Its gonna be expensive as fuck tho, I can feel it
no auto brightness
@@ro794 I don’t care about auto brightness. I care about enclosed optics
How deep can u go on a slide before the over hang hits on a sro or rmr hd? Or is each slide slightly different?
Oh, I'm definitely going to get one of these. I have a G17 I was just planning on getting milled for an RMR. I love my RM06 and this looks like a good upgrade.
Side note: I just replaced the battery on mine(after 2 years of constant on use, the battery was still functioning but I decided to replace it) and I didn't even have a zero shift. I've heard some have but I did not in this particular instance.
EDIT: Wait, they're coming out with a closed emitter version that also fits the RMR footprint...!
SIGs glass is the right approach. EVERY red dot optic needs to start using aspherical lenses. There is zero distortion/magnification on my 4T. Puts my MRO to shame in every way.
How is this for people who have an astigmatism. Does the 1 moa starburst less or bloom more than the 3.25 MOA at high brightness settings?
Honestly I don't get the pricing, how do they expect to be competitive in such a crowded market for pistol red dots especially with the fact that Holosun has beat them to the punch with everything and keep innovating much faster than Trijicon, they are just so late to the party and with that price point I don't even see them as being relevent.
Will this work on Staccato CS. All the plates are the same. Just wondering about the overhang?
will my xl ameriglo suppressor sights still work with this like they do with rmr type 2
It would be very nice with a flat meprolight sight on top of the RMR.
🤨 Wut?
Not a knock against Trijicon at all. I have a couple RMRs, but for me it’s simple economics. I had much rather buy American, but until we bring back an industrialized America where wages stabilize themselves more equal to American product prices, it’s really hard to justify this optic over some of the Holosun products. I wish that I could.
Where can you get one ?
I hope the new RMR fits the old original RMR's footprint.
I talk about that in the video 🙂
I just saw... thanks @@GunsandTactics
It does but it doesn’t
We probably won't see the Sage Dynamics video for a while.
$850? Does the dot scratch my back? No chance, less than zero.
Street price is lower
I was thinking about considering this new version RMR, as the old one didn't seem worth it. But hearing that the price is going to be that much more? That's gunna be a hard pass.... 😮💨
I feel like Trijicon has waited to long ! The market has shifted
Trying to find one has led me to trying other brands, and they’re pretty good. Dumb move releasing a product without making any, trijicon. I’ve been on the back order list for six months on everything from brownells to opticplanet. Loving the Leopold Delta and the Holosun. And I don’t care what the damn thing costs, I just want one without having to know secret handshakes or join a club.
Howdy
Tell me a little bit about that small integrated rear notch for the SRO please. Looks like it is integrated into the sight, just ahead of the diode/emitter. (y)
@ 8mins 23 Secs in the video.
Literally just purchased a Walther PDP Pro SD Compact two days ago for 851.87 AFTER taxes. This MSRP being 850 is fucking nuts Trijicon. C'mon.
Im in Florida, and certian parts of the year rain is unavoidible. Also, it's humid here all of the time. Saltwater is an issue, sweat, etc,etc. I've lost an SRO, several Holosuns, and a delta point to moisture. Having to take the optic off to change the battery every other year is a small price to pay to ensure I have a worked red dot. Nothing seals like the bottom Oring gasket on my type II RMRs, and RMRcc. Openings in the top of the optic is a non-starter, as always people fail to grasp that things are engineered the way they are for a reason.
That’s interesting and always love hearing from others. My SROs and others have been super wet, even underwater once and through the winters with no issues from battery cap so long as it was sealed correctly. We did see some DPP leak during heavy rain at a class and an acro fog.
Trijicon took way too long to push this out. Holosun EPS green dot all day long and with a price that is reasonable.
plus the eps doesnt need suppressor height sights 👍
@@poortac5568 True that:)
Holosun still better in every way I feel. RCR looks sick tho
Holosun comp took the win for these pitol dots
Do barrels with loaded chamber notches spray fouling on the lens?
I'm not sure as if I don't have many, if any, guns with those notches. Ill see what I've got
Hopefully prices on the type 2 drop. I'm fine with the type 2
Just because of the audacity of that price tag after not making a new RMR since 2009… I HOPE holosun just comes out of no where with some new innovation to compete with this at sub $500
Is there something wrong with you people? Can you not think critically? The RMR Type-II was $800 when it came out and then went to $629 and the average price instores was usually cheaper than that.
Cool optic! I wanted one until you mentioned the price - 😳!!!
I kind of want to run this ragged ln my 11.5 SBR LW
By definition, they are sponsoring you giving someone free products to advertise is a form of sponsorship! And Im pretty positive you’ll get to keep it🤪hopefully
Nope not how it works. I can’t pay my bills with products or feed my family, sponsorship is paid partnerships, like the ones I disclose.
I get so much stuff here that I either turn back, make an honest, but negative review or simply decline so anybody sending me an item to evaluate is just part of my job and not a sponsorship. I don’t look at any of it as “mine” as it’s the subject of a project or a tool to do my work. I’ve gotten firearms worth a lot of money and if it’s a turd I call it out.
If I am doing a sponsored paid piece you’ll know it, but I’ll still be upfront and honest about it.
Basically an optic for the super rich or tacticool crowd. Most people will opt for the Holosun variant in my view, these prices are clinically insane.
It's for people who actually need it's feature set. NV users. People who need durability out of an optic.
You can't compare holosun to trijicon
@@AmericanConstitutionalistnv?
@@lilteerex Night Vision.
Which milling package is that from Danger Close Armament?
On the Glock, the stable, and the slide was all done by danger Close. Tell them I sent you they will take great care of you.
Everyone complaining about price are also the same people who have 5 of the same gun with the same cheap parts and never shoots any of them but will say nothing broke for them so the cheap parts are just as good.
Trijicon needs to make an enclosed version for shits and giggles
They did, I show it at the end, I don't have one yet
Lol it’s called the RCR it’s coming out at the same time and also fits the RMR footprint
So it's just a square SRO? 🤔 How much does it cost? 😐
I’m good on optics till they get it together definitely overpriced but if ppl stop wanting to impress the next man the good budget stuff could get shine…I don’t care what folks say about the dragonfly that came with my Prodigy gun runs perfectly as is so I’m gonna keep the gun as Springfield intended
Really love this but sooooo many Holosun’s at almost 1/3 the price doing what it does and more….🤷🏼♂️
Reminder to everyone that the RMR Type 2 has an MSRP of $731. Street price on this is going to be lower.
So in case you are looking for your screw… it’s by your right elbow, bottom left corner of that mouse pad
The whole bench as small parts and screws lol.
Maybe the standard RMR price will drop 😆 these 2 had to come out right when I'm looking for a new optic
I'm hoping they will
They did already, a certain company is selling them for $449 cheapest I have seen yet, I'm debating this or the new one or SRO all together
I ma stick wit my DPP
Now can they update the acog or someone make an add on that increases the eye releif
I think they can fit the 6x magnification inside the 3.5x model with best eye relief
Looks chunky, like a square SRO
Si it’s a squared SRO?….. for way more money?…. No, trijicon can eat it. Give us a super clear enclosed variant at same price as old RMR at the most and then we talking, otherwise it’s a no go
Damn if the HD is $850, who much is the RCR gonna go for, $950? Holosun, I'll stick with u.
Heard its around 1100
they're both 645
@@sikwatikenshin1060 i heard you're very wrong
Trijicon should revamp their RnD team. Nothing new here. Looks like a flatten MRO.
I really don't like the overhang. Optics should not be larger than their footprint, that's why it's called a footprint. If I wanted to custom mill a slide and seat the optic really deep into that slide, like I could with the RMR Type 2, I can't now because of that overhang. That alongside the price, and this just doesn't compare to the Leupold DPP or Holosun EPS.
Holosun should sue them now.
nothing to sue over dumb dumb
🔴
They should've released this around the same time they released the SRO. Open emitter optics are a thing of the past.
You’re out of your mind.
No they aren't
I'm guessing it does not come in green.
nope
Take birchwood Casey paint pen marker I do orange paint line
A good machinist can probably mill that ridge into a front blade and rear notch sight. 🤷🏻♂️
Or for a third that cost, you can just put a set of suppressor height sights on your pistol... And not need a sight 2 inches above bore.
ACOGs have sights on top, because you can't see under them... If the RMR isn't working, just look thru it. Sights on top of a pistol mounted MRD is... Umm... Useless .
850 fuckin dollars. Its dead on arrival. Someone really need to like Trijicon to buy it. Also, the rised edge on the bottom Might caught some things, possibly even brass
Apparently price doesn’t matter. They sell out asap
For the price, i shoud buy another 3 holosuns
The CCP thanks you.
my wallet also@@Skinnymoose
Are they going to pull an ACRO, and have them always out of stock 2years after “release”?????
If you release them, please have them actually available…..please.
(Not just to guntubers)
That price is drunk, which is unfortunate because that reticle looks like it would jive with my astigmatism
Well, I just lost any and all interest when I heard that MSRP. It's almost twice the price of an RMR Type 2, and the only thing it brings is features that should be standard on the range at this point.
For love of god!!! Manufactures stop with the 1, 2 and 3 moa dots with circle unless its going on rifle. Rather your using this optic for self defense or competition 6 or 8 moa dot is best. One day companies will understand this hopefully sooner than later. On the optic would of considered if 6 or 8moa dot with top mounting battery just a smaller square sro.
Where’s the RCR? That’s the only important one.
Too little too late
Sage went full patreon. He no longer exists. Lol
Lol ....no. 😂😂 This is why Holosun is kicking trijicons rear end.
They didnt fix the RMR, the modified the SRO.
...and doubled the price.
This will sell to range warriors and gear snobs. Normal smart people, not so much.
It will probably sell to people who value their life and the lives of their families over saving a few bucks
@@Skinnymoose If a red dot fails, and you can't defend yourself or your family, you should have been spending more time at the range.
Red dots aren't a necessity... And shouldn't be treated as one. If you're depending on it, to work to save your life, you've skipped over several fundamentals.
Like I said ...most of the people who buy this, will do so because they want to say they have it.
@joeytomato Cool story bro. I depend on all my tools to work when I need them. Just keep supporting the CCP
@@Skinnymoose Yeah... My red dot is really supporting the CCP...
If you can hear WAY up there on that high horse, answer me a question... Where was your phone, tablet, computer, and/or TV made, that you're replying to this video with? Most consumer goods in the US come from China, Taiwan, Korea. So use that BS on me, when nothing you own is made over seas... Otherwise, you're just spouting garbage. Most of your car, the electronics (including wiring) in your house and work, 80% of the medicine you take, and 70% of the pork you eat are supporting the CCP. Which division of industry do you think they are making the most money on? Medicine food and electronics, OR optics?
That said... Your red dot is an accessory. If your "tool" won't operate without it, you should have bought better tools, or trained properly. 👍🏻
Green reticle then I open wallet
I’m sure it’s good but not for that price. Trijicon needs to get real. You can buy three Holosuns for that price.
Holojunk is garbage and you are supporting the Communists
Algorithm comment
Edit: in the beginning, you spoke what has been clear to many for quite some time; they’re stale. And after watching your presentation (which was great btw) I observed that they remain stale. These designs and functions are already widely available and have been for a good while. I imagine like many giants they will just live off the name they built for a little while and let innovation slip on by. I mean, why take costly risks when you already have a profitable company
The RMR T3 is just them playing catch-up to the market and correcting the numerous criticisms/shortcomings of the Type 2. The changes are just things Trijicon could have done 5 years ago. The RCR is the actual innovation product here, as I think the future of duty-grade MRDS are going to be in sealed/contained units like the ACRO, MPS, 509, and now RCR.
Am I the only one who felt a bit off when turned the barrel toward the camera...😅
You are
Brace yourself for Holosun fan girls complaining about whatever they can find for awhile.
Sights on top are a terrible idea.
Your iron sight mounted on top is a dumb idea. Trijicon did it right.
I’d like to try it at least. Then if it’s dumb we’ll know.
Everyone needs to recognize that the Trijicon Optics are more expensive than the Chinese Optics because the American worker is receiving a decent wage, stop comparing the two where price is concerned, support your American worker, not those who are trying to take your country over.
All most Americans care about these days is money. I get that we want to get the most bang for our buck but we are shooting ourselves in the foot. I'd rather save up, wait and buy an RMR than have instant gratification and support the CCP. Plus Trijicon is leaps and bounds ahead of Holosun in terms of ruggedness, quality and customer service. Buy once, cry once is my philosophy.