Mano y Metate vs Rotary Quern: Appropriate Technology for Corn

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2019
  • In which JB geeks out at a neolithic style saddle quern and argues for why this might be a superior technology for grinding maize dough.

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  • @-Honeybee
    @-Honeybee 4 роки тому +5

    I've never ground corn before, but this reminded me of a project related to the quern. Lately, I've been working on a knifemaking setup which is 100% free from the need of electricity. I finally completed that today with the addition of my restored grindstone - I have a newfound appreciation for manual labor like grinding corn flour or making blades and tools by hand.

  • @gramursowanfaborden5820
    @gramursowanfaborden5820 4 роки тому +3

    my uncle once traced his ancestry back to an old Celtic name in the Cornish language, he then searched on maps for any carns (hills) that had the same name, since Cornish names are generally derived from the origin of the people, or vice-versa, the place is named after the family who lives there, so he went there and retrieved the quern stone his actual ancient ancestors used.

  • @Cadwaladr
    @Cadwaladr 4 роки тому +2

    When I was a kid there was one of these grindstones at the science museum that you could play with. They always just had dry corn in it though. Makes sense since it was just for demonstration rather than actually making food.

  • @mealex303
    @mealex303 4 роки тому +1

    If you used polished granite with interlocking humps a furrows on a disk you can grind wet corn

  • @lithostheory
    @lithostheory 4 роки тому +1

    Fascinating!

  • @Kineth1
    @Kineth1 4 роки тому +1

    I've never had issues grinding my corn into masa with a quern or any other method... Because I haven't tried.
    Although now I do want to go bug the developer who works on the Terrafirmacraft+ mod for minecraft and ask them to add the mano y metate. The only grinding option available right now is the quern, which requires at least copper or higher tooling to make (in-game).

    • @GoodandBasic
      @GoodandBasic  4 роки тому

      Awesome! You should check out done of the incredible mano y metate artifacts from central America. They were made with only stone tools. JB

  • @Wh3atley
    @Wh3atley 4 роки тому +2

    I always wondered about stone dust in these arrangements.. wouldn't you enrich your flour with stone dust that's been abrased from the milling stones? Or was that just something no one could really avoid and thus they just stuck with it?

    • @Kineth1
      @Kineth1 4 роки тому +2

      I believe he mentioned in a prior video that there is evidence of "enhanced" dental erosion as a result of ground stone in their stone ground flour.

    • @moist_onions
      @moist_onions 28 днів тому

      Stone milling like this does lead to trace amounts of stone residue (the amount varies on type of stone used) which could’ve slightly effected diets with the added minerals.
      As someone else commented there is evidence of dental erosion from this method of grinding, it’s one way to identify if a culture had access to this technology

  • @trevorjaster4072
    @trevorjaster4072 4 роки тому

    Another thing i learned today

  • @LazyLifeIFreak
    @LazyLifeIFreak 4 роки тому

    I have always wondered how do you even avoid or remove the stone from milling flour?

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 4 роки тому +1

      Use a hard stone so it wears slower.

    • @agweber
      @agweber 4 роки тому

      I don't know if it's particularly usable, but depending on what you're making, if you mix your ground mix into water, the stone will likely end up sinking to the bottom. Just a thought though, no idea how practical it would be.

    • @erikpatricksson3348
      @erikpatricksson3348 4 роки тому

      Uh you don't. It'll aid in your digestion brah. Lol

  • @dattebenforcer
    @dattebenforcer 4 роки тому

    I think they were just too stupid to invent the wheel.

    • @HammaneggsAirborne
      @HammaneggsAirborne 4 роки тому +1

      If you've listened to their podcast, there were wheels in the Americas, just as Rome had steam powered devices that created rotary motion. In both cases though, the connection to practical applications of work were not fully realised, and were more novelties and playthings.

    • @dattebenforcer
      @dattebenforcer 4 роки тому

      Ok, but steam power was overlooked because using slaves was cheaper and also it kept the social order in place.
      What is their excuse for forgoing THE FRICKING WHEEL!!??