I tried playing Call of Duty Modern Warfare II on an Intel NUC...
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- Today I take a look at a previous gen Intel NUC with an i7 12700H and an Arc A770M GPU to see if it can play the newest edition to the COD franchise! The specific model of this NUC is the rnuc12snki72001
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Jay the reason why the fps didn't change in MW II is because settings don't apply with the Intel overlay open, you need to close it
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Ive always felt that the NUC was best targeted to the small office and general PC use scenarios. Ive noticed most medical offices and retail stores utilize NUC type hardware.
Many offices, medical offices, retail stores use what's called a thin client. The user then connects to work via a remote virtual desktop.
Eg Dell wyze
@@rpm10k. - These can be configured as thin clients, as it’s just a software setup. A bit overpowered and a bit of a waste of money for that, though.
Or an HTPC.
I've worked at two places now that have both used NUCs for shop floor computers. One place was a small business, second place is a GE Aviation shop.
This thing is like $1500 and way different than the thin client hardware used in offices.
The reason I bought my NUC some years ago was that it was small and could be dropped straight into an Akasa fanless case. So I've had a completely noise free server with no moving parts, that I can ssh into, it serves source code with git, been running 24/7 for years. Still powerful enough to compile and run some coding projects. It runs Linux Mint and has no issues running Chrome, youtube videos etc.
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Ok...I retract my statement. This makes sense then.
I think these would be used in the same place they'd use an all in one but with the added advantage of not needing to toss out both the monitor and the PC if one part fails or needs upgrading. It's also easier to service a nuc stuck to the back of a monitor than an all in one.
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100% this. In my old workplace we used NUCs in this way, and I'd wager they still do. Though, they weren't this big. They were a lot smaller, and were mounted on the VESA bracket, at the back of the monitor. It was clean, minimal, and professional looking.
@@madness1931That workplace use-case is perfect for NUCs in the $500-$800 range. We use NUCs at my company as a thin client for every user to run VDI sessions on. Even running Windows locally, that price range of NUC is more than plenty for web apps/browsing, maybe some MS Office and similar productivity apps. This one for $1500 is kind of baffling to me though.
Agreed but that NUC is much too big to reasonably slap on the back of a large monitor or TV. Usually smaller form factory ones are used like the Lenovo Tiny computers or equiv from other mfrs. @Madness1 yep that's exactly what I've seen in use/worked on. Nice and clean and don't cause the monitor/TV to protrude any further.
We use NUC’s and other SFF pre builds for the business I work for office staff. Usually put them behind the monitor on the desk. They are used for very basic task like web based programs we use for scheduling, MS office, etc. We’ll usually get the low to mid tier versions. Keep in mind in our case they are going to people that don’t know much about computer or don’t really care much about them (at least in the office). Swap them out if their is an issue or every few years.
In this nuc is pefectly ARC GPU it is for OFFICE GAME haha. Office 3d, excell 3 graph attack.
3:39 lol when the PSU is larger than the computer...
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@JayzTwoCents - Someone else has found the intel performance overlay breaks the game's ability to actually change the resolution. You need to disable it. You can see this in that it also breaks your ability to change between windows, fullscreen, etc... I believe Daniel Own found this out with his Arc A770 tests.
who is daniel owen ? lol
We don't use these enthusiast NUCs at work, but we do have a ton of the very small ones using just the integrated graphics. They are fairly cheap, and so easy to cram into small industrial cabinets, on the back of monitors, mounted under tables etc. for where we need simple single-purpose computers (such as monitoring CCTV, running small testing stations, parts registration etc).
JAY, there are TWO RESOLUTIONS SETTINGS when you have XeSS turned on... The RENDER RESOLUTION and the DISPLAY RESOLUTION - neither DLSS nor FSR do this, so it's not something you expect (at least this is what I THINK I noticed from watching someone else's video on the Arc 750 on MW2 ) - And he was changing the resolution and nothing was happening, but thatr made me go back into his video and I THINK I saw a resolution under XeSS and THAT is what your display will be at while the other resolution (the games resolution) is the INPUT to XeSS..... when he switched to FSR everything went back to normal..... so you might be dealing with this... because when you first changed from 1440p to 1080p it didn't change the stats in the top right corner and they looked the same size that they were at when you first had it at 1440p
That's some good attention to detail! Good suggestion, I'm sorry some Stoopid bot commented but you helped me with an issue with this comment.
nucs are great for basic windows / work stuff at home. I am on one right now, actually with 11th Gen i5, 32gb RAM on a 4K TV, watching your vids! It's my new workbench PC.
I've had a NUC6I5SYH (6th generation Intel Core i5-6260U) as my HTPC for 5 years and dont regret it for a second - one of my best investments. I can even use it to play Steam games connecting to my main PC....great for emulation
I have this with 2 1TB SSDs, I carry it in my GAEMS case with the built in screen. I can take it with me on business trips. I love it, especially after the Intel driver updates for ARC.
This is why I want to buy one. I dont want to carrybmy tower with me around
An old friend of mine lives in a tiny house. They have an older NUC and a 24" 1440. The biggest difference is that they have a small room A/C that hits the NUC before the rest of the room. They mentioned they intended to upgrade, so I'd bet they are already eyeballing this or similar.
I use a nuc in my workshop because I can mount it inside a (mostly) dust free enclosure, connect it to my cnc, laser, and 3d printers, three monitors (main screen, auxiliary to keep an eye on running projects, and a drawing screen). The nuc I have is a ryzen 9 for the multi-threading to run multiple tools at one time, not for gaming though.
As someone who was constantly shipping my desktop pc back and forth when I was in college, this would be a very nice alternative. Yes, you could get a dedicated gaming laptop but they are unwieldy to take to class every day and I prefer a full keyboard and monitor when I play games. I repurposed my old gaming PC so I could have a pc to use when I went home over the breaks and while I was away at school. If you don't have the resources to buy two desktop pcs for this purpose, there will be a period of time as a college student when you just don't have access to it. Also, shipping a PC can cost upwards of 100 USD one way through UPS, plus its a hassle to pack it properly to ensure nothing breaks. Having a nuc you can throw into a travel suit case means you could have your main pc where ever you go. Just buy a cheap monitor and keyboard to use when at college and keep your nice peripherals at home. If this cost $1500, you can buy a cheap 500 laptop to use for schoolwork, so 2k for both computers about the price of the really nice gaming laptops with better cooling. Not to mention you could get an external gpu to use on the nuc at a later date + additional storage (dedicated game drive will give you better performance) so much greater upgrade path than dedicated gaming laptop. Also last gen Nucs drop in price super fast so possible deals on older but still good hardware.
It would be better to spend 2k on a laptop (like the Zephyrus 16!) instead of 1500 on a mediocre mini-pc and 500 on a shitty laptop. They've gotten a LOT better in terms of weight and battery life, and you don't need to buy peripherals for both setups. You can also use an eGPU and external storage with a gaming laptop, so I'm not sure what you're on about there. For the specs the NUCs have always been incredibly overpriced, and to me they've always seemed like a solution looking for a problem.
@@TacohMann Zephyrus g16 is a great laptop! but I personally would buy a NUC and a cheaper laptop in comparison to this. Would I buy this specific sku? No, its a waste of money. But previous gen nucs are cheaper and some actually come with desktop cpus and fully unlocked bios (nuc 11 extreme kit can be had for $900), which is what I would personally go for. Then throw a small 3060 or 6600 in the same housing and spend around like 1300. Then I would use the other 700 to buy like a last gen mac book ( 13.3" m1 air can be had on second had for 650-700 from certified resellers on ebay). Its good to have options.
Nuc 9 extreme kit is going for like 500 now. Not the fastest but for a gaming pc its fine.
I should mention that the Intel Arc GPU monitoring tend to mess with resolution not changing and all. If you disable the monitoring and use something like MSI After Burner only this will fix the problem. You want to make sure that you can use full screen (exclusive) and then you can change the resolution to what you want, and it will actually be applied in the game settings. Most probably you were only testing the game at 1440p.
Was about to comment on that. The changes were never really applied. Daniel Owen had a video with the same exact issue on MW2 on an ARC A750.
I use high performance NUCs in a few cases:
1) My TV-connected living room PC. Small size and fits into that aesthetic but plenty fast for a lot of stuff.
2) Audio recording. Fits right into mobile racks with the recording interface and plenty of IO (fast SSDs, dual LAN and thunderbolt)/CPU power for that purpose.
3) Sometimes for LAN parties and other situations where it's much easier than bringing even a SFF PC (I can put many of these NUCs in a jacket pocket for reference) and the performance is fine in most LAN-type games.
4) Running game servers and like, often combined with 3. Again lots of CPU power and a lot more reliable when running under load for long periods than most laptops.
Of course I do the majority of my PC game on a high end desktop, but NUCs have been rock solid for me over the years and quite low drama. While theoretically just a "laptop in a box", I've never had laptops stand the test of time in the same way, especially when used frequently. Fans break, batteries die and the extra size and screen/keyboard become a liability if you want to shift them into a server role later or something.
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I could see this used by someone that travels, that either likes to do light gaming or do light work, they could use it on Hotel tvs. It's smaller than a laptop and less likely to get broke in travel and would be easy to put into a small carry on bag for a flight. Also as others have mentioned, small offices and hospitals etcs
An Intel NUC can be good as an alternate faster server in some workloads especially if you use a server with a slow RAID.
We use the Intel NUC for running gitlab runner at our company. Our pipelines went from 30-45mins to 10-15mins to complete.
They're compelling as an alternative to laptops if you travel but don't work while travelling. Portable screens are getting cheaper every day, can use your favorite mouse and keyboard combo. $1,300 CAD would get you an integrated iris version of the NUC (smaller and lighter) + 17" 2k monitor + high end mouse and keyboard.
if you're traveling from hotel to hotel you also will find a hdmi display in form of the tv in every room that you can hack your cable to :)
0:22 Back when "Media Center PCs" were popular, I sold a LOT of custom tiny PCs about this size.
Due to my knowledge in both hardware AND software, I was able to build a website that allowed people to custom design their Media Center PC, on a computer right in my store. I think I sold maybe 20% MORE Media Center PCs, simply by having the "PC Customization Station" available in the store.
They are also really great for mobile equipment uses, where you may have monitor panels set up remotely. I use them in trucks with mounted equipment for things like data logging temperatures, pressures, rates etc. The NUC can be mounted in the sleeper near the inverter while you have remote sensors and displays elsewhere. This is often one of the cheaper options as most of the equipment outside of the truck needs to be intrinsically safe, and an intrinsically safe panel PC can run upwards of 3000-4000CAD and be much more limited due to running Windows Embedded. We also don't run anything quite as robust processor/gpu wise as we usually run 10" intrinsically safe displays running 720P for monitoring input sensors.
@JayzTwoCents sometimes the graphics settings are glitchy and don’t apply. Try switching from full screen exclusive to full screen borderless or vice versa. This was a common fix for the fps bug that warzone had. Alternative fix is Win + Ctrl + Shift + B to reset graphics driver.
I'm amazed he didn't even try restarting the game after changing the settings and no change in FPS to make sure/check the settings applied. That's like the minimum thing to do 😅
I've been considering a used Nuc for homelab use cases. With raspberry pis being inflated, spending a little more on a used Nuc makes for more power and function
Alternatively you could get something like an X300 from AsRock (Case, mobo, power supply), throw some SO-DIMM in it, and then pick the CPU best suited for your use case. With a 2200G, with some 5 SSDs attached, I'm running at about 14W idle (which it does most of the time), and about 30W on high-max load.
That way you have a tiny bit of option, vs. your default NUC.
You do lose QuickSync for something like Plex though. But, could use an m.2 to PCIe for some cheapo Nvidia card.
This NUC is impressive, on cinebench r23, it is almost on par with the ryzen r7 5800x. Thank you very much Jay for introducing us to this kind of computer.
In amateur astronomy, NUCs are actually quite popular. A lot of us have a setup with a telescope on a motorized mount and multiple cameras. It often gets quite complex and to orchestrate everything, we need a computer. Some use a laptop sitting on the side but they need a long usb cable between the pc and the setup, this can cause issues with the cable catching something as the setup moves around. Some have a raspberry pi sitting on top of the whole setup in order to avoid that issue. And those who want the same portable solution but need a powerful computer or simply windows, they use a NUC.
I've been looking at NUCs for a while as a potential upgrade path
I live in a small studio and that won't be changing in the near future. Having a small, relatively low power draw fixed desktop is just nice and flexible
A lot of nucs are used in homelab in place of enterprise servers for lower noise levels and space constraints. I don't know if I would use this one in particular for that but it is a use case lol
My pc is super crazy quite and it's a monster 3080 at that.
Call of duty will always be that game that just never seems to be fully complete. I get kicked, frozen and sometimes just lag like crazy! So much for the master race 😭
The newer cod games always get released unfinished lol
Don’t even try to play the older CoDs online at least, hackers will try to snatch your IP
They are too busy jamming politics into games so they can't take care with gameplay or bugs.
@@kaczan3 eww youre one of those people
@@IamJay02 So do most triple A games, it's kind of inevitable at this point. It's just to earn some quick cash and most profitable for them to do so. Extra time spent on polishing things just ain't an option.
my father was a mortgage agent, when covid hit they'd have to work from home so they sent a bunch of employee's NUC's pre-programmed with the company's utilities so all the employee had to do was turn the pc on and start working since somebody else would install it. it's just really helpful for retail businesses with a mass employee count in all honesty.
I work for a tech integrator. NUCs and other small PC’s are used as conferencing PC’s. Systems where there is no reason for the pc to leave the room. They size and form allows them to be mounted behind displays or under tables.
Honestly, I can’t think of a reason. When I had a gaming laptop, I found more uses for it and played in different locations-like lying down, because I could! The one NUC I had was a cheaper model that barely got used due to its slowness and general uselessness. I originally wanted it for Steam streaming, but found that I got a better experience from an old cheap laptop that was less expensive, all while using Parsec.
NUC as a low power thin terminal for Citrix / RDS / Horizon or pure web apps is about the only decent use case. But then, they are going to be low power units, running lower tier CPUs on integrated graphics.
I'm an engineer in the field. I live in hotels and have been looking to make a Pelican case to fly with a gaming setup. I think this would be perfect paired with the right peripherals. Thanks for the video.
0:56 you can see how good the scene is rendered, with ray tracing happening on the black box
I imagine it would be useful in a space limited scenario like an RV or tour bus, or a micro-flat someplace like London, New York, or Tokyo.
I see it for mobile content creators/streamers that need it along side a laptop. Having 2 laptops can be a bit annoying to deal with in that regard as you can have one laptop and a TV/monitor on the wall or something and set your keyboard right in front of the laptop so you can use both keyboards in one plane and have enough room for the mouse which would have been taken up by the second laptop. Having a mounted monitor set up but very limited space like in a workshop or even a RV/Semi cab can make only needing space for a keyboard very useful as half a laptop is kinda locked to the touch pad and rest is wasted space.
I see this as a great medical office solution where the client will be deploying dozens of them around the hospital or office and doesn't play games other than the occasional solitaire binge. It'd screw right onto a mobile cart, be fast enough to remain useful for at least five years, and dead-nuts reliable compared to a traditional PC or even a laptop. Hospitals, larger doctor's offices, corporations, gov't use, etc. would be where this could totally outshine either a laptop or a desktop. It's not "for me" but I could even envision a solid use case for it for guests at home. That it *can* play a modern game is icing on the cake for the latter scenario.
The only thing I can think of is you have a super cramped room or a TV cabinet that you want to put a PC in there for gaming. However at that point you can probably get a small form factor case that would work for you just as well.
I guess this would be something good for traveling. Motor home, RV, caravan, etc. Maybe for a hotel? Set it up on a hotel TV and play some games while on a business trip.
SFF builds lend themselves to being HTPC's or living room gaming-lite PC's. Currently I have a INWIN BP655 SFF build with an ASRock mini-itx board and A8-5600G APU, the cases aesthetics match the décor of the room and it sits near the 4K TV. That NUC looks interesting but it's case is hideous and will have to be hidden somewhere. If Intel is really interested in pushing it's products, it needs to design a series of minimalist cases that will cleanly fit inside a modern living room of a well-to-do professional. Sometimes we like to just relax on the couch and casually play a random steam game on a big screen that is several feat from us.
I've got an i7 NUC as a plex/smart home/SFTP/multi-room music/dedicated game/GIT SERVER
Hooked up to a Razer Core X eGPU with a GTX 1060 inside for HW video transcoding.
After 3 years in the stock case I moved the NUC in an Akasa Turing Intel NUC Fanless Case because of the stock fan becoming extremely noisy (its been running 24/7 for years )
works like a dream 24/7 ❤ never regretted my purchase, low power consumption, small and completely silent and still powerful to be a dedicated server for multiple things.
I highly recommend it for anyone who needs a 24/7 dedicated non-enterprise level server👍
For a NUC I think you should look at what the form factor gives you: A prebuilt system with a small footprint. So… space and power efficiency considerations will be important while absolute performance is lower on the list. A low power Plex and/or other type of server use would work, as would a use case where a desktop PC is desired but the user is stuck with sub optimal desk space. This second use case is also possibly satisfied by an iMac or Mac Mini, at potentially lower cost.
My plan with the nuc is to install it in the glove box of my car, along with the 9.5" touchscreen monitor i pieced together from an old ipad. My goal is to be able to run a full windows computer in place of something like apple carplay or android auto. This way i have an endless HD selection of music at my finger tips for my "audiophile" system, and be able to tune my cars ECU at the same time! No more loose laptop in the passenger seat! If all goes well, ill submit some photos to one of your judging vids. Thanks for all the great content guys!
This kind of thing is more for an office/warehouse setting. I know this would be absolutely perfect for operations that require employees to use a computer but instead of getting a laptop for everyone, anyone can sign in on this one during their shift then hand off to the next person
Definitely agree about the enterprise use-case. Though, they have NUCs that cost 1/2 as much that handle typical workplace productivity uses very well. This price point and higher spec is kind of bizarre imo.
Thanks... for the feature :)
I use an 11th gen NUC as a gamestream client (running moonlight) behind my TV. It's completely hidden and I can stream games at 120fps/1440p from my main PC upstairs with only 2ms latency. So I get a couch gaming experience powered by a 3080 on a 65" TV with no PC in sight. It also seconds as a normal PC for web browsing on my couch.
The fact that your MW2 content is trending above that of people I actually watch for MW2 content is friggen awesome 😂 and slightly unexpected.
I had a similar experience with MW1 with my 6600 XT - no matter which way I tuned the ingame graphics settings, fps didn't change at all!
Considering this. I'm a truck driver. Can't take a tower in the truck and expect it to not get messed up. Still researching, but if this does better then similarly priced laptops, I might get it
The well used come to mind... One, mounting behind your TV for a wireless look casual living room gaming setup.
Two, watching the child of divorce across the street carrying his desktop PC back and forth from Mom's to Dad's place twice a week... Aka portability without the be free to use on the go...
I was going to guess the price was going to be $700-$800... But when you said the price was $1500.00..... the 1st words out of my mouth was F# CK that!!! Then I laughed at it...again
I have used the NUC in my job, as the main office computer. Under no circumstance would I ever think of it as a gaming system, it is obvious from its specs.
Accessability to the internals is good. Intel made a video on how to completely deconstruct it. In my country the barebone costs 699€. With the 770M in it, it can even run for videoediting and professional stuff while allowing for some 60fps 1440p gaming. But as you said, that is a specific usecase for people who need that.
Just got this for $766. Added 2TB M.2, 32 GB Ram, Win 11. $1170 with tax. Portable to play steam games on travel, tucked away on a shelf, massive storage up to 24 TB. Great for TV gaming, primarily for arcade and emulation. Not my primary gaming rig, but good enough for portable uses and well hidden.
The better cooling than a laptop and it's I/O options / expansion has made it a good option for my friends motorhome. Buy one nice display... mount it permenantly and use a small pc. Some of the small pcs are just better for cooling and can stay quiet in such a small space. Plus having the I/O for expansion helps not need a laptop or other devices.
We use Lenovo Tinys. Lower end models for warehouse machines and higher end models in our conference rooms. Keeps things neat and tucked out of the way.
Nucs are very common for astrophotography. Hooked up to a telescope mount, focuser, camera, and running capture software- they allow remote monitoring and complete control of a session.
These would be great in caravans and motor homes, take up bugga all room plus most c/vans and m/homes tend to have bigger screens than laptops and this is still punchy enough to game with when it's raining.
For office work, or for school. It's small and if you need to udate anything you can just swap it with another one, take to your desk do the update or troubleshoting if not just a 1 min thing you need to solve. If a school want to upgrade their PC this is a better or perfect choice than the "big" case PCs and you get more space for the "same" performance you get from a school pc.(for regular IT things)
I can see this used as a "console" like experience. Small and looks good under the TV. Enough power to run some newer games. And if you want more power... use steam in home streaming from the big rig of the house to get things running better
Dear Jay.
My wife´s father bought one of these, He uses it like most grandparents... Very light use. and a laptop takes up too much space and is cluttery. So formfactor means more than performance and cost :) And its very quiet.
this would be perfect for a family trip to use in the back of a SUV or in a RV and you dont want to have a big tower to worry about
"Unbuild" is my new favorite way to say "teardown".
For me, this would be a nice PC for airplane travel. I have a tower and a sff but this would just be easier to throw in my backpack and forget about it until you're at the hotel
I have the NUC 11 Extreme with the i9 11900KB that supports a 2.5 slot GPU. I love the form factor even if it does run hot and thermal throttle out of the box. You really need to tweak it to get it to play ball. I think the NUC 12 Extreme is the one that they should have sent you
I got a NUC for my mom years ago to mount behind her monitor because she insisted on not wanting a tower on her desk. She was looking at all-in-ones, but those were all over priced and not user serviceable. She didn't want a laptop because that was before thunderbolt docks and she didn't want to have to plug in a bunch of stuff at her desk. But that NUC was way cheaper than this one and way lower end. When we replace it, we'll probably get her a laptop and thunderbolt dock. All she does is read email and use the internet.
Intel : Wanna check out some of our NUCs?
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2:47 Is this Star Wars themed? The box looked like a tie fighter, then turned into the emperor's shuttle.
Just as others have said, small office is a great place for them. Kinda quiet, small form factor and nice looking.
I’m a truck driver and I could see myself using something like this for the truck instead of my laptop. I actually use a 27” curved 4K monitor with a sound bar for my TV and have a Legion laptop with a 3060, but something like this would be simple and very functional. If only it was AMD lol.
My wife is a middle school resource teacher while working on her masters and she might like this NUC for it's form factor!!!
The NUC 11 or 12 'Extreme' allows to upgrade to full-size graphics cards (up to RTX 3070) , 3x M.2 slots and 3x cooling fans in an ITX form factor. Much more useful for gaming. The NUC 11th gen is heavily discounted now.
If you don't play demanding AAA title games you don't need all the power of a full desktop build. You want something quiet and hidden that you can do you off hours development work on, that will play videos and music. You get a Nuc over a small form factor build because you don't want to deal with maintenance. You want it to just work without the constant hassle of rerouting cables every time a fan dies. You get a NUC because you need more then a console but don't want to spend so much that you could have replaced your T.V.
Use? Desktop processing, web surfing, add external hard drive - portable media center.
I will say HP Pavilion mini-tower series with gaming GPU for $600 blows this out of the water at half the price but requires you install some case fans for $25 and drill bit, ruler, vent holes. About 1hr work max for better case air flow.
This would be a good solution, for use in a car, or truck, where space is limited. You only have to build a power supply from 13,8VDC into the supply voltage is needed to run the NUC. But that is not a problem if you are into electronics. PS: I read in the comments that these are widely used as a client in a big network, like hospitals, schools, etc. and that's true, some of the monitor manufacturers, gives an option, to place the NUC on a special bracket on the backside of the monitor.
The use cases for a front desk check in. You do not want laptops that are easy to steal, but you want something small and does not take up a lot of space. I have seen these mounded to the back side of a monitor at dentist offices.
A self help Kiosk, library computers, hotel front desks.
This item is super useful in the commercial use, and simple for a company to have all the same hardware to simplify the IT department that might be a single person.
A personal use case would be a grandparent's house.
Grandparents need a big screen to be able to read anything, therefore a laptop screen is out for the cost.
Grandparents do not want something in their lap because it could be heavy.
This is setup for a desk which means a standard use case.
What I mean by a standard use case:
to replace or upgrade the computer the mouse, keyboard, monitor, screens, etc... all stays the same you just switch out the case/pc.
This prevents the change from seeming to be as huge of a difference, and then if feels less like fully relearning a new device.
This has the benefit that everything seems to remain as it was while you change out the important part. Dementia and memory loss, the person still understands this to be their computer.
Another use case: A young child's first computer. What you give them is this and all your old peripherals. This would be an easy way a non-tech literate family to have a computer for their child that they could more easily supervise and at the same time less likely to break.
Having done stuff like this there are much better setups that dell makes that are cheaper where you mount one of the optiplex micros to the back of the screen. This makes it a much cleaner install and look then having of these would.
Been on a NUC for almost 2 years now and its still good, recently replace thermals paste and apparently they only covered half of the CPU with thermal paste so it was running extremely hot
I know a company that uses 5 nuc's in a service robot. All nuc's will have different functionality/component to run.
This would make one hell of an entertainment center PC honestly. And $1500 is actually super reasonable compared to traditional NUC pricing.
NUCs are good for general purpose business and home. Some use them as a high-end TV streaming box.
I think it's likely less about the "crannies" and more about it fitting into a small sized nook. As in the reading nook or the small office nook in one's home.
As you ask, Jay…
… I like NUCs (and other mini PCs) because I have limited desk space, and I’m not (within reason) price-sensitive when it comes to computers. I’ll happily spend more than I need to on a PC if it’s compact, and ‘powerful enough.’
Prouf PC gamer feeling: the plethora of different options for the same gaming experience, full tower pc, very small form factor, budget laptop with a thunderbolt gpu dock and a 4090 or other gpu of choice since you can upgrade anytime, gaming laptop, game streaming services and more but don't wanna drag on.
It might be slightly overkill, but I could see something like this as a dedicated plex/home server. Though the $1500 tag does look utterly unappealing.
The reason that the BIOS was better than average is that Intel's original idea behind the NUC product line was NOT meant to be a consumer platform. The idea behind NUC is to make a single bare board computer for developers to play with the hardware. A few years later it seems like the marketing department got involved and started putting the boards in cases. You can still see not-ready-for-prime-time things that are taken for granted in most consumer platforms when you try to do things outside of norm.
we use lower end models of the NUC's for on site devices, kind of IoT but just a hair more robust.
I've considered laptops before, but given how much I use computers, the battery would quickly become an issue. And you're definitely right about building much better desktops for the price. Even ordering a custom-prebuilt would likely end up better. The only way I could say buying this is if I had a fair amount of spare cash, and wanted to just setup a tiny "emulation computer" for playing console games on a tv, if it has enough power for that.
per cubic liters, its about as crazy as you can get currently, and their build quality is pretty solid. its one of those items where having a tiny footprint and "it just works" matters. my oldest kid plays some older titles, so this would run those at very high levels, take up very little room, and still look pretty cool on the desk. if the money were there, i think i'd jump on it.
While not the same as a laptop, it is still portable, you could easily put this in a back pack/carrying case so imo the best use case is for people who have a monitor/keyboard/mouse setup at multiple locations and you just take the NUC with you. Yes this can be done with a laptop, but it can also be in the way, this would be a cleaner setup. I personally would rather still have use of the 2nd monitor to dual screen, but not everyone feels the need to use 2 screens
Disable the Intel overlay and then change resolution. If Intel overlay is enable it locked to native resolution
I'm currently using an dell optiplex micro hooked up to my tv. It's powerful enough for what I do at the moment, and it fits under the stand. If I were looking for something more powerful something like this nuc could definitely be a consideration, but I have basically no space for anything larger.
The problem here is that Intel has forgotten what NUC used to stand for. Which is what Jay talks about at the start. A tiny PC that has enough power to easily be a two-monitor desktop, but is still so small it fits in the palm of your hand, and they used to come with VESA mounts so you could just clip them right to the back of a monitor. That's a NUC. Reasonably powered, reasonably-ish priced, still snappy due to having an SSD in there and enough memory. You could get them in that small form factor (maybe still can) with i3's and i5's and they were more than enough for most productivity uses. This thing? It's a behemoth, and expensive - and you still don't get big boy gaming performance. I suppose you could use the Thunderbolt port to plug in an external GPU, but... why? Just build a real gaming mini tower and enjoy. Of course there are options to NUCs even there, like a Lenovo M75n Nano or similar - Ryzen and Vega may not be world-beaters but in a palm-sized unit you can indeed do the VESA thing with, it's pretty darn nice.
So, a 1500 machine where I live:
intel 13600kf (390)
z690 board ~200 (590)
32gb ddr5 ram ~170 (760)
1tb samsung 980 ssd ~90 (850)
750w 80+ gold semi modular ~80 (930)
rando case ~50 (980)
coolermaster hyper 412r (or equivalent) 25 (1005)
rtx 3060 ti (new) 520 (1525)
I purposefully went over budget because us pricing is generally what would be the "without 20% tax" prices here. The 1500 I did was with those taxes.
If you bring in a second hand graphics card, a 3070ti goes as low as 525 atm, bringing the total to 1530.
But the real reason why I did these specs is because even at the 3060ti, every component was an upgrade from the nuc.
I love my NUC. It has tons of ports including TB ports as well as it is fast and really well made PC. I fully recommend them. One thing... They go on sale all the time, so pick one up at discounted price.
I remember those ZOTAC Nuc sized pc's from 4-5 years ago, they were pretty awsome.
It's far from being tiny compared to an Intel Nuc which was built some years ago. I have one with an old I5. It's quiet, does not consume much and is fine for what I am doing with it: retro gaming and Kodi.
I love how you 3D printed a Jayz2Cents card for the logo light. It’s like the Autobot symbol I printed for my sons Corsair Capelix Elite cooler.
Work inside of clean room, in a fab. My last employer had these on every work station in the clean room for the operators to use.
Great to learn about a different Form Factor!! And also let some things from the comments below!!!