I went on through the 763 system and loved it. The form fours who did not make to A levels went to the tertiary colleges, while those who did not make it to the university also did the same. Their education did not end at those levels. Those who wanted to further their education to higher levels had chances to do the same.
Hey Florence, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the 763 system! It's definitely a topic worth discussing. Would love to hear more about your experience - what did you enjoy most about the system? #KenyaEducation #System #LifelongLearning #DialoguesWithJagero
Dr. Wandia and Jagero you are a blessing. I had an idea that Mwalimu was not for CBC but I had never understood why. Today I have had time to listen and it has been an enriching experience. Personally, as a parent I feel so dissatisfied with CBC. When I observe my kids I sense it is an inferior education to the 844 I did that had home science, business education, art and craft. At grade 7, with the so much hyped competence, there is not much to show. I have shown them items like stools and tea tray I made while in primary school. I learnt to use my hands and be creative. My other worry was that they were missing out compared to those who are learning the foreign curriculum. Thank you for showing the short comings of such curriculums. I wish we had people like you in the decision making table. Jagero, thank you for the podcast.
hanks so much for your thoughtful comment! We're glad you found the conversation with Dr. Wandia insightful. It's always great to hear from viewers who are engaged in the education conversation. We understand your dissatisfaction with CBC, and your concerns about your children missing out on practical skills and creative outlets are valid. The 8-4-4 system definitely had its strengths. There's definitely room for improvement in CBC, and open discussions like these are important. We're hopeful that by continuing the conversation, we can find ways to make sure CBC equips students with well-rounded skills for the future. On a positive note, it's fantastic that you're taking the initiative to show your kids practical skills like making stools and tea trays! Hands-on learning is so valuable. Thanks again for listening! We appreciate your support and hope you'll continue joining the conversation.
Jagero remember the comment from the Young Gen Z's podcast about college being an expensive social experiment? One of the reasons young people are not sure about college, like your nephew not knowing what do in college. Many end up following computer and media, social media path because it is exciting. A lot of young people are unsure with their lives. This plus unemployment explains the increased sense of depression and rebellion we associate they current youthful generation with. I like prof Wandia. I follow her on socials. I hope she continues breaking and simplifying her many ideas around education, the arts, freedom of thought and liberation of the mind. Sometimes, her points don't get across in a simple understandable way. I admire young people who can be confident to pursue paths that are unpopular. Those are liberated in a way. Alliance caught a stray but those are good questions. Why do we have active teachers setting exams? This episode really explains CBC's failures well...Competency verses knowledge. Competency is for the job market. Children need knowledge. Thank you.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment! You raise some great points. Prof. Wandia definitely sparked a conversation, didn't she? College can, and always is, be a big decision, and it's totally understandable that young people are questioning the traditional path. The "exciting" fields are equally tempting, but it's important to find a good fit for one’s individual interests, vision and path. Simplifying complex topics is a challenge, but she's definitely empowering with freedom of thought and exploring different paths. It's great to see shifts in how we approach our education and knowledge production. On the CBC point, you're right, active teachers setting exams is be a point of discussion. The balance between knowledge and competency intersects. Thanks again for engaging with the video. P.S. I loved your point about Prof. Wandia's social media presence - we will have more episodes with her on this channel. Stay tuned.
I loved it because it answered one key question, "is the American/British education system better?" Additionally, I liked the bit on how to view mentorship.
Great conversation! As a suggestion as and part of education😅, It would be great to show the books and or links to articles that are being discussed in the moment...say a quick screenshot of the book, article etc and where to get them in the description.
Totally agree! It's a two-way street, right? Education prepares you for the workforce, but work experience can totally show you where the gaps in education might be.
My humble understanding of mentoring all those decades ago was "allow me to sit at your feet and learn from you and help me take this further, using my own intelligence, my own skills, my own means". Which translates to what Wandia says: she has already done this for these students asking to be mentored by her. They have been in her classes and they have benefited from her mind and outlook on various issues. Today, “be my mentor” translates to “hold my hand, walk me through life, continue to chew the food for me, so that all I need to do is swallow. I don’t want to go home and read more books which are not even listed in the curriculum”. This is sadly a reflection of the lazy generation that has been raised.
Mentorship can definitely take on different forms. Dr. Wandia's approaches are a great foundation, and perhaps one-on-one mentorship could provide deeper dives or address specific challenges. There's also value in independent learning, and it's great you mentioned encouraging students to explore beyond the curriculum.
The 763 system was good because it was child and teacher friendly. As an educator myself, I believed that those of us who went through the system were not overburdened and had a chance to be kids. We had plenty of time to play and be creative- a great ingredient for creativity. I taught during the 844 system and it was just a total mess. All we did was teaching children to pass exams. The system was rushed in my opinion. While it worked in countries like the US, it did not really fit in our system which had very many political issues. The 763 system gave room for students to pursue education at their pace. Not all students are cut for university level right after high school. Cognitively, we all mature differently. What I loved most is that those who did not make it to university right away, could still do so at a later stage.
It's fascinating to hear your experience as both a studenI completely agree that the 763-system seemed to have a great balance. Encouraging playtime and creativity is definitely underrated in education! It sounds like it fostered a love of learning that students could carry with them. While standardized testing can have its place, it shouldn't overshadow the joy of discovery. Did you find ways to incorporate creativity into your teaching during that time? You bring up a really important point about students maturing at different paces. The 763 system's flexibility sounds ideal for catering to those individual needs. Maybe in the comments below, we can hear from other viewers about their experiences with different education systems?
Couldn't agree more! Thogoto definitely has a unique vibe. What are some of your favorite things about living in/around Thogoto? Maybe I can convince a few more "urbanites" to explore outside the city center!
I went on through the 763 system and loved it. The form fours who did not make to A levels went to the tertiary colleges, while those who did not make it to the university also did the same. Their education did not end at those levels. Those who wanted to further their education to higher levels had chances to do the same.
Hey Florence,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the 763 system! It's definitely a topic worth discussing.
Would love to hear more about your experience - what did you enjoy most about the system?
#KenyaEducation #System #LifelongLearning #DialoguesWithJagero
Dr. Wandia and Jagero you are a blessing. I had an idea that Mwalimu was not for CBC but I had never understood why. Today I have had time to listen and it has been an enriching experience. Personally, as a parent I feel so dissatisfied with CBC. When I observe my kids I sense it is an inferior education to the 844 I did that had home science, business education, art and craft. At grade 7, with the so much hyped competence, there is not much to show. I have shown them items like stools and tea tray I made while in primary school. I learnt to use my hands and be creative.
My other worry was that they were missing out compared to those who are learning the foreign curriculum. Thank you for showing the short comings of such curriculums. I wish we had people like you in the decision making table. Jagero, thank you for the podcast.
hanks so much for your thoughtful comment! We're glad you found the conversation with Dr. Wandia insightful. It's always great to hear from viewers who are engaged in the education conversation.
We understand your dissatisfaction with CBC, and your concerns about your children missing out on practical skills and creative outlets are valid. The 8-4-4 system definitely had its strengths.
There's definitely room for improvement in CBC, and open discussions like these are important. We're hopeful that by continuing the conversation, we can find ways to make sure CBC equips students with well-rounded skills for the future.
On a positive note, it's fantastic that you're taking the initiative to show your kids practical skills like making stools and tea trays! Hands-on learning is so valuable.
Thanks again for listening! We appreciate your support and hope you'll continue joining the conversation.
Jagero remember the comment from the Young Gen Z's podcast about college being an expensive social experiment? One of the reasons young people are not sure about college, like your nephew not knowing what do in college. Many end up following computer and media, social media path because it is exciting. A lot of young people are unsure with their lives. This plus unemployment explains the increased sense of depression and rebellion we associate they current youthful generation with. I like prof Wandia. I follow her on socials. I hope she continues breaking and simplifying her many ideas around education, the arts, freedom of thought and liberation of the mind. Sometimes, her points don't get across in a simple understandable way. I admire young people who can be confident to pursue paths that are unpopular. Those are liberated in a way.
Alliance caught a stray but those are good questions. Why do we have active teachers setting exams? This episode really explains CBC's failures well...Competency verses knowledge. Competency is for the job market. Children need knowledge. Thank you.
Thanks for your thoughtful comment! You raise some great points.
Prof. Wandia definitely sparked a conversation, didn't she? College can, and always is, be a big decision, and it's totally understandable that young people are questioning the traditional path. The "exciting" fields are equally tempting, but it's important to find a good fit for one’s individual interests, vision and path.
Simplifying complex topics is a challenge, but she's definitely empowering with freedom of thought and exploring different paths. It's great to see shifts in how we approach our education and knowledge production.
On the CBC point, you're right, active teachers setting exams is be a point of discussion. The balance between knowledge and competency intersects.
Thanks again for engaging with the video.
P.S. I loved your point about Prof. Wandia's social media presence - we will have more episodes with her on this channel. Stay tuned.
I loved it because it answered one key question, "is the American/British education system better?" Additionally, I liked the bit on how to view mentorship.
The question of 'better' is tricky, but I do think both systems have their strengths.
Thank you Wandia for the conversation.
You are welcome
Great conversation!
As a suggestion as and part of education😅, It would be great to show the books and or links to articles that are being discussed in the moment...say a quick screenshot of the book, article etc and where to get them in the description.
That's a great idea!
Profound! The best way to understand education is to understand work and vice versa.
Totally agree! It's a two-way street, right? Education prepares you for the workforce, but work experience can totally show you where the gaps in education might be.
My humble understanding of mentoring all those decades ago was "allow me to sit at your feet and learn from you and help me take this further, using my own intelligence, my own skills, my own means". Which translates to what Wandia says: she has already done this for these students asking to be mentored by her. They have been in her classes and they have benefited from her mind and outlook on various issues. Today, “be my mentor” translates to “hold my hand, walk me through life, continue to chew the food for me, so that all I need to do is swallow. I don’t want to go home and read more books which are not even listed in the curriculum”. This is sadly a reflection of the lazy generation that has been raised.
Mentorship can definitely take on different forms. Dr. Wandia's approaches are a great foundation, and perhaps one-on-one mentorship could provide deeper dives or address specific challenges. There's also value in independent learning, and it's great you mentioned encouraging students to explore beyond the curriculum.
Great work Wandia.
Thanks for listening
Loving this conversation!
Glad you loved it
The 763 system was good because it was child and teacher friendly. As an educator myself, I believed that those of us who went through the system were not overburdened and had a chance to be kids. We had plenty of time to play and be creative- a great ingredient for creativity. I taught during the 844 system and it was just a total mess. All we did was teaching children to pass exams. The system was rushed in my opinion. While it worked in countries like the US, it did not really fit in our system which had very many political issues.
The 763 system gave room for students to pursue education at their pace. Not all students are cut for university level right after high school. Cognitively, we all mature differently. What I loved most is that those who did not make it to university right away, could still do so at a later stage.
It's fascinating to hear your experience as both a studenI completely agree that the 763-system seemed to have a great balance. Encouraging playtime and creativity is definitely underrated in education! It sounds like it fostered a love of learning that students could carry with them.
While standardized testing can have its place, it shouldn't overshadow the joy of discovery. Did you find ways to incorporate creativity into your teaching during that time?
You bring up a really important point about students maturing at different paces. The 763 system's flexibility sounds ideal for catering to those individual needs. Maybe in the comments below, we can hear from other viewers about their experiences with different education systems?
Let Mwalimu speak more
It is called Dialogues With Jagero. I don't want it to be Monologues With Jagero
@@TheJagero Thanks though, we appreciate you and the content you bring us. Thought provoking content
There's a huge difference between thogoto and Nairobi, only a true urbanite would know.
Couldn't agree more! Thogoto definitely has a unique vibe. What are some of your favorite things about living in/around Thogoto? Maybe I can convince a few more "urbanites" to explore outside the city center!
Jagero itimo yier tiki nade yawa?
Abuke rangi baa