I was so interested in this comparison until the very end. After almost clicking “buy it now”, I started laughing and snapped out of it at the last minute. 😂
This is why folks even at the elite series level feel the need for rules & regulation. I knew the day would come that 16 or 18in screens would not be the largest available. The competitive urge to have the best, be the best, regardless of the cost is what’s out of control more than anything. Where does it end? It was crazy yrs ago to think we’d have rigs with 20k in electronics & 6 graphs. BASS wants this unfortunately. They want to tournament pro boat to look like something the average person can’t afford. They have effectively said it on live. That’s not the direction I want the industry to go. It’s a never ending, high speed pursuit to spend more, spend all the money, take a chance on impacting our fisheries populations before we can understand the impacts of the higher fish mortality. It’s just out of hand.
Great info on this advanced product and I’m most impressed with the savings, that goes along with the quality and to hear just how long it’s been in development and the 8th generation leads me to believe that NBT has done everything possible to stand up and even go beyond Garmin’s standards, which is extraordinary in my opinion. I am definitely looking forward to part 2 and sharing this with a few of my clubs and their members here in Raleigh North Carolina 💯🍀😎
there is nothing wrong with a fortrex. In some ways i think it is better than the ultrex or force. ive had pretty much all of them. Had 2 ultrex and both of those had issues. Have a force now and it is great, but turning the tm to line up livescope isn't the easiest. Fortrex just worked and was always reliable.
Pretty cool......funny your video comes out today and Garmin now has a 4K display unit from 19" on up for the off shore boats....i would be that some bass/crappie guy will want a 4k unit soon.....😂😂
Very interesting concept here! As someone who has run some crazy set ups lol this is intriguing. I ran a 19 Apex at console plus x 2 16 Garmin 8600's and a 10 Garmin at bow last year.:) on a Caracal. It was a bit too busy to be honest. Love your channel and your Puma STS reviews pushed me to purchase a beautiful 2023 Puma STS with 300 Merc Pro XS. I went for a more streamlined and one network system on the new rig. I currently have the 16 Garmin at console and a 16 Garmin for scope with a 12 stacked on top for mapping and 2D/DI at bow. I am thrilled with this rig. Keep up the great work and let me know if you ever want to connect for a call or I can send you pics. I am in Ontario Canada close to the St-Lawrence River. My buddy has a very innovative marine electronics shop near by and has done some really cool stuff for a few of us tournament nuts up here. Take care! Dave
Sounds good but most regular people that work like i do still cant afford much of anything from the marine industry these days with the inflated prices of a name brand bass boat, much less these high priced electronics. Must be nice!
Stop bitching you can get into livescope for around 2500 cheaper if you buy used or on sale. If you really are passionate about fishing and want another tool to help you improve 2500 ain’t nothing how much you got in rods and tackle
I’m interested ..I have 2 hummingbirds and a garmin now for my scope ..I would like to switch over here and the black box possibly. It’s November 2025 but the money I was lookin into investing into a 16 garmin and new LVS 34 seems like id be spending similar here
Said it before...It is no longer called FISHING, it is now called CATCHING. Takes the real competition of skill out of the picture. Now computer nerds will take over.
False. It’s hard to learn these and how to use use them. Just like when the first sonars came out just because you can see the arch doesn’t mean it’s a fish or that it will bite. You still need to know how to fish. Sounds like you just can’t afford it
I think I’d just go with the 8 though series that has an hdmi out and connect it to a monitor that $200. Yes I know you can’t control the monitor but have the unit right with the monitor for controls.
I enjoyed the video, but I would never pursue the product. I enjoy fishing to get away from technology and enjoy nature. I’ve fished since I was was six and ended up in a leadership technology role. It’s paid the bills and I recognize the advancements that can be achieved with technology. It’s just not for me. Why not a 48 or 52 inch monitor? Why not three 22” monitors? Kudos to the creator,, I’m sure many will be lined up to bye. What has become of our sport? It’s sad.
Hell why not go ahead and release the end game? You know.. The underwater hd screen. Kinda like an aquavu on steroids Put that on bottom of troll motor I’m thinking that’ll be next in some way or fashion Remember KB from Ky said it
Ron, that’s in part 2, but if you go from 4 fishfinders to 2 fishfinders and 2 screens you go down in power consumption. The 22’s burn similar using the black box as a 16” FF unit
Only problem is they are always sold out 😂. I’m totally gonna buy once they become available. Edit: I see they are in stock now. Dammit, didn't need another huge winter purchase 😂
22"? When is this ridiculousness going to end, listening to people try and justify it just makes you look like someone wearing a mask in there car. Just stop
Geez… spending more on electronics than my boats worth! Haha I’m just happy with the 10in garmin with livescope
Mitch is a great kid!
I was so interested in this comparison until the very end. After almost clicking “buy it now”, I started laughing and snapped out of it at the last minute. 😂
This is why folks even at the elite series level feel the need for rules & regulation. I knew the day would come that 16 or 18in screens would not be the largest available. The competitive urge to have the best, be the best, regardless of the cost is what’s out of control more than anything. Where does it end? It was crazy yrs ago to think we’d have rigs with 20k in electronics & 6 graphs. BASS wants this unfortunately. They want to tournament pro boat to look like something the average person can’t afford. They have effectively said it on live. That’s not the direction I want the industry to go. It’s a never ending, high speed pursuit to spend more, spend all the money, take a chance on impacting our fisheries populations before we can understand the impacts of the higher fish mortality. It’s just out of hand.
next will be a 42" Sony
Why not just pump the lake out and walk around and pick them up
@ronnieteel3723 lmao!! Then it would be a" who can build a bigger better pump with higher gpm!!!"
Need to just put a easy chair in front deck with a 6 foot monitor surrounding it. Good grief this shit is nonsense.
💯
Great info on this advanced product and I’m most impressed with the savings, that goes along with the quality and to hear just how long it’s been in development and the 8th generation leads me to believe that NBT has done everything possible to stand up and even go beyond Garmin’s standards, which is extraordinary in my opinion. I am definitely looking forward to part 2 and sharing this with a few of my clubs and their members here in Raleigh North Carolina 💯🍀😎
I’m so cheap I’m still rockin my MinnKota fortrex 😂
there is nothing wrong with a fortrex. In some ways i think it is better than the ultrex or force. ive had pretty much all of them. Had 2 ultrex and both of those had issues. Have a force now and it is great, but turning the tm to line up livescope isn't the easiest. Fortrex just worked and was always reliable.
Pretty cool......funny your video comes out today and Garmin now has a 4K display unit from 19" on up for the off shore boats....i would be that some bass/crappie guy will want a 4k unit soon.....😂😂
The next thing that will come out is a recliner that will fit on the front of the boat. Bass fishing is out of control !!!!
Don't forget the 8 pack of cold ones with the recliner 😂
Interesting, I’d mount it reverse, a 22” in the console split screen sonar, maps, gauges, Livescope. Then a 12xsv on the bow. Nice! Good video!
That’s the best way to run these graphs
I have a 22 NBT graph, infact I’m one of the guys sponsored by Mitch, they don’t have quite the detail as the garmin, but I have a older unit
Very interesting concept here! As someone who has run some crazy set ups lol this is intriguing. I ran a 19 Apex at console plus x 2 16 Garmin 8600's and a 10 Garmin at bow last year.:) on a Caracal. It was a bit too busy to be honest. Love your channel and your Puma STS reviews pushed me to purchase a beautiful 2023 Puma STS with 300 Merc Pro XS. I went for a more streamlined and one network system on the new rig. I currently have the 16 Garmin at console and a 16 Garmin for scope with a 12 stacked on top for mapping and 2D/DI at bow. I am thrilled with this rig. Keep up the great work and let me know if you ever want to connect for a call or I can send you pics. I am in Ontario Canada close to the St-Lawrence River. My buddy has a very innovative marine electronics shop near by and has done some really cool stuff for a few of us tournament nuts up here. Take care!
Dave
Cornfield crappie sells a gimbal mount for the 8600 series 16 to the 24 also sell a mount for the NBT
Sounds good but most regular people that work like i do still cant afford much of anything from the marine industry these days with the inflated prices of a name brand bass boat, much less these high priced electronics. Must be nice!
Stop bitching you can get into livescope for around 2500 cheaper if you buy used or on sale. If you really are passionate about fishing and want another tool to help you improve 2500 ain’t nothing how much you got in rods and tackle
Randy gonna love this one! 🤣
Wish that combo package was still a thing
Are you guys still running the 8700 box with the 22inch screen for that 6800 price ? I’m getting ready to update and wanna go that route if so!
Now I know why people say bass fishing has become the rich man’s sport.
To think how much they will spend to win so little is what’s amazing to me
Just plain stupid
Just like hunting !
@@winstonrocco1981 I can see why professional do it. They can take it off as a business expense, but not fun fisherman.
I’m interested ..I have 2 hummingbirds and a garmin now for my scope ..I would like to switch over here and the black box possibly. It’s November 2025 but the money I was lookin into investing into a 16 garmin and new LVS 34 seems like id be spending similar here
Said it before...It is no longer called FISHING, it is now called CATCHING. Takes the real competition of skill out of the picture. Now computer nerds will take over.
you still have to know what to throw and the technique to use
@@michaelbroussard7404 LOL!
You don’t have an opinion until you have it
False. It’s hard to learn these and how to use use them. Just like when the first sonars came out just because you can see the arch doesn’t mean it’s a fish or that it will bite. You still need to know how to fish. Sounds like you just can’t afford it
Have they been put thru the 25 to 35 guest to 40 kinda waves yet?
Will they work with hummingbird units??????
Ken, will these units handle 16 volts?
Just ordered one, didn't take me long. Hope it works out.
What works out?
I think I’d just go with the 8 though series that has an hdmi out and connect it to a monitor that $200. Yes I know you can’t control the monitor but have the unit right with the monitor for controls.
Yes I know the regular monitor isn’t waterproof or can handle the heat but I don’t fish in the heat.
Thank you!!! 👍
Cant control it but smallest cheapest HDMI output head unit + 50 inch big screen tv
Can't find the cable for hummingbird, I guess it would have been great to work all of them . Im not starting over.
I enjoyed the video, but I would never pursue the product. I enjoy fishing to get away from technology and enjoy nature. I’ve fished since I was was six and ended up in a leadership technology role. It’s paid the bills and I recognize the advancements that can be achieved with technology.
It’s just not for me. Why not a 48 or 52 inch monitor? Why not three 22” monitors? Kudos to the creator,, I’m sure many will be lined up to bye. What has become of our sport? It’s sad.
What’s more absurd is the fact it won’t end there it will just keep escalating
I need to check this out
How long do you think it will be before garmin comes up with an update to eliminate that capability. I'm not sure if I would invest in that
For sure garmin ain’t gonna let that happen
Hell why not go ahead and release the end game? You know.. The underwater hd screen. Kinda like an aquavu on steroids Put that on bottom of troll motor I’m thinking that’ll be next in some way or fashion Remember KB from Ky said it
So you can pretty much add a HD computor screen.
Been bass fishing since the 60's. I use livescope, but this is absolutely ridiculous. No call for this crap. It has to stop somewhere.
The bitching has to stop somewhere!
Garmin 7612xsv compatible?
How much of an increase of battery power is needed?
Ron, that’s in part 2, but if you go from 4 fishfinders to 2 fishfinders and 2 screens you go down in power consumption. The 22’s burn similar using the black box as a 16” FF unit
I found it on the website👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
All this FFS needs to go this isn’t fishing anymore its a video game now
Oh boy. This is going to be a can of worms
Badass product
Honestly screen sizes are getting out of control. Lol. Next thing will be a projection onto a sail. I need 1. Lol
It's already known that if you get any of the 88 series or GPS map 10" or bigger they come with av input
I want one
22” and still cant catch a dink. Time to pull some man cards
Only problem is they are always sold out 😂. I’m totally gonna buy once they become available.
Edit: I see they are in stock now. Dammit, didn't need another huge winter purchase 😂
This is cool and all but dam that's alot of money. Guess I'm just a poor working man.
Lives open is for people who can't can't fish should be out lawn in all tournaments
Will the HBT connect with a Lowrance ?
Yes all live units
22"? When is this ridiculousness going to end, listening to people try and justify it just makes you look like someone wearing a mask in there car. Just stop
If wearing a mask helped me finish higher in a tournament I’d be all over it
Who cares what other people buy? You seem to care a lot
Lake Bringle?!? Sad body of water there.
Crazy
This might be the straw once the tech companies start losing $$
12v rv tv... get 55" if you want. Lol
Prices are getting stupid
Dangerous driving with all that equipment blocking view while driving.
Bass fishing is getting ridiculous.
100%!!!
So it doesn't work With Hummingbird????
Nope
Oh ok
If you can’t fish without ffs. Your not a true angler