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  • @itcamefromthedeep
    @itcamefromthedeep 2 місяці тому +21

    AS far as I can tell, the public's immigration stance hasn't changed. Canada is comfortable with immigration of maybe 0.5% to 1% of the population per year. Maybe 1.5%, but that was pushing it.
    The government simply skewed massively away from what the public wants. That's the government's fault, not the public or the opposition.

    • @kqh123
      @kqh123 2 місяці тому +6

      Yep, as Kory said 250,000 was the number

  • @goldenyogis
    @goldenyogis 2 місяці тому +3

    Can we get a NDP’er who is actually willing to acknowledge reality? Kory hit it on the head - the NDP would be in an entirely different place if Rachel Notley was at the helm. How much does Jordan get paid to carry Singh’s water? It’s tiresome.

  • @jimirvine763
    @jimirvine763 2 місяці тому +5

    Teneycke nails it on Singh

  • @pt93music
    @pt93music 2 місяці тому +12

    First week back from vacation and Kory hit the finisher on Jordan and Singh with ease.
    I really hope the NDP pay Jordan well because she is the most shameless and motivated spin doctor for the party in Canada. She deserves every cent because she tries her damndest 😂

  • @mikenicol8618
    @mikenicol8618 2 місяці тому +14

    I see that Jordan is sinking into that old American political standard ploy of "politics of fear." I guess thats all the NDP have left.

  • @sarahweir1854
    @sarahweir1854 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, Jordan.

  • @karinturkington2455
    @karinturkington2455 2 місяці тому +3

    Wow! Weird? Interesting What is weird? I'm weird. I don't understand what's so wrong with weird. We've had 'normal' for far too long. That's what weird. Have I spelled this correctly? I'll have to listen to Walz to hear what he has to say. I had written him off as being weird. As always, I trust Kory more than anyone else. He doesn't seem weird.

  • @charlesstein9642
    @charlesstein9642 2 місяці тому +8

    Spoken like a bunch of folks who aren't worried about their future.

    • @kqh123
      @kqh123 2 місяці тому +1

      Can't have an opinion unless you are

    • @Griff1984
      @Griff1984 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kqh123 Ain't that the truth.

  • @marusiagryba5513
    @marusiagryba5513 2 місяці тому +2

    David & Scott I appreciated your hey yous 👍. PP wants to be PM of a democracy , but he shows little respect & belief in the pillars of democracy. A free press is essential in a democracy. PP is very disparaging of MSM. Only takes part when he knows he will not be challenged. PP is now going after the Justice system in particular the Supreme Court ( another pillar) because the SC ruled against PP guru Jordan Peterson. PP is going to make laws using the not with standing clause. If the polls are right there will be almost no opposition PP will govern like a dictator

  • @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages
    @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages 2 місяці тому +3

    Great show guys. Jordan hopefully next week you'll be out of your vacation mind set. Cause man, not even close. Scott stay at it, the sun will shine on the Liberals again, someday? Kory, thanks for being the adult in the conversation. David glad to see you feeling better. Wlatz and you behind the stadium. Are you looking to work for the democrats? If any public broadcaster wanted to put out good political content, they should have this show on MSM.

  • @karinturkington2455
    @karinturkington2455 2 місяці тому +13

    Yeah, I don't see Poilievre as angry at all. He's a straight-talker who doesn't blow kisses. The Liberals' touchy-feeliness is over.. I can't stand the sound of Singh's voice. I prefer a more articulate speaker who doesn't slur his words. I already get free pharma care as a low income person in Quebec - Free Epipen! Epipens are expensive in Ontario even as a low-income person - $100+. I used to keep the same Epipen on hand for years in Ontario as I ran from the wasps. I will get approx. 50% off my upcoming dental appointment here in Quebec as a low income senior. That's good, but not free. Yippy Yahoo! I am grateful for small mercies. I still don't know exactly how much it will cost. I'm supposed to go to the dentist every four months due to gum reccession - Not covered I think. Maybe someone will ask me how I got to be so low-income. I'd love to elaborate on that.

    • @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages
      @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages 2 місяці тому

      Insulin & Condoms is not pharmacare . Free dental care, I mean now co-payer dental care. School lunch program, catering trucks from the job site are now going to be parked at school yards. Give your head a shake, Canadians are dying out hear! Drill baby Drill is the only way out.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      @@karinturkington2455 The utter selfishness of your attitude of "well I got mine so why should anyone else get handouts".
      And you do you realize that Poilievre will cut these services you rely on. Hopefully, as you mention, you're fortunate and your reliant on provincial programs he can't touch, though if it's healthcare remember the feds control the money taps.
      Make no mistake Poilievre will bring deep cuts and years of austerity. Buckle up.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      @@JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages drill baby drill? Somebody's watching too much Fox news.

    • @pt93music
      @pt93music 2 місяці тому +1

      @@stratford374 you say deep cuts and austerity as if it’s a bad thing. The amount of wasted money and complete financial irresponsibility this current government has demonstrated in 10 years is astounding and absolutely unsustainable for our country. Canadas essential services and infrastructure is collapsing while we spend more than ever on it and we give billions and billions of dollars out to everyone else around the world. You should absolutely be cutting anything and everything that you can, selling off as much unused govt land and building inventory and getting the country back to balance as we are only a strong society when we are economically secure. Having an entire generation of citizens on the literal verge of bankruptcy just so that the PM can fly his jet all around the world and lecture you about how bad a polluter you are is played out.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      @@pt93music Well.. that's a take. It could use some more periods and ideally a paragraph break but that's mostly structural criticism.
      What exactly do you want to be cut? Please. be specific. I'm happy to engage in a discussion if that's what you're looking for but I don't see much beyond twitter talking points in there.
      So. Please. What do you want cut?
      You think we're over funding services? I agree that the federal government is sending a lot of money to the provinces in health transfers, how are the provinces managing that money?
      You're complaining about infrastructure but want reduced spending? You do realize infrastructure, which we've underfunded or ignored for several decades is in fact crumbling, costs money to fix?
      Selling off government assets? Remember when we used to own Air Canada? Petrocan? The Canadian Wheat Board? Selling off government assets and crown corps is a small short-term gain for long short term pain.
      Money to foreign countries? The economic impact of many of those regions destabilizing will be much greater than the amount we're spending. Not to mention that there is a moral argument to be made alongside a basic level of empathy that human beings have to help.
      Sort yourself out bud.

  • @darrellpayne1501
    @darrellpayne1501 2 місяці тому +3

    The bare truth is what this panel is the best at. Scott, David, and Kory know politics and how to remove the smoke and mirrors to serve the bitter pill, regardless of how hard it is to swallow. It is too bad that Jordan (or any NDP MPs or insiders) cannot understand the game or believe the cold hard truth.

  • @andrewmcdonald6059
    @andrewmcdonald6059 2 місяці тому +1

    Re: Beach Boys - highly recommend "Surfs Up" and the "Holland" album for some Brian Wilson appreciation time

  • @TelosBudo
    @TelosBudo 2 місяці тому +2

    Great video. You guys are great

  • @oldtimer7979
    @oldtimer7979 2 місяці тому +3

    If you believe Kamala is really ahead in the polls, you should be suggesting that Trudeau's campaign should be "don't worry, be happy, be joyful, its all good" and we shall see how that goes over with voters.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      But.. she is. You can say that it's temporary and her honeymoon might be over soon. But.. she's ahead right now.

    • @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages
      @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages 2 місяці тому +2

      Sunny ways my friend. Sunny ways;)

    • @gailg2327
      @gailg2327 2 місяці тому

      Harris’s campaign reminds of notley’s campaign in Alberta!

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      @@gailg2327 Because Harris and Notley both project competence versus opponents caught up in culture wars?

  • @nSLost
    @nSLost 2 місяці тому +1

    I enjoyed this episode a lot, nice to see some good contention between Jordan and Kory and i think both made good points in their rhetoric. I do agree with Kory, I think Singh is a bad leader for the NDP and most of my former NDP supporter friends feel the exact same way. I also feel Jordan is correct about Polieve, the guy is an acidic little rodent and the cons have spent millions to make him look like Joe EveryMan when he isn't. He's a weird ass career political who is going to win not because of who he is, but because of who he isn't.
    And beyond it all we have the abject failure Liberals selling our country and an entire generation of people out so they can keep good political ties with India. It's an absolute shame and heads should roll for it. Looking forward to next week's show.

  • @maritimer3027
    @maritimer3027 2 місяці тому +7

    Wouldn’t even consider listening to a NDP candidate. Certainly wouldn’t vote for one.

    • @kqh123
      @kqh123 2 місяці тому

      Open minds are overrated

  • @Griff1984
    @Griff1984 2 місяці тому +10

    There are plenty of blue orange provincial switch voters in Western Canada. While the NDP party doesn't want a federal conservative government there are probably plenty of NDP members out west that don't mind. Jordans comments really show the disconnect between the party and its members.

    • @nSLost
      @nSLost 2 місяці тому +1

      Not really, It just shows and highlights that there is major difference between the federal NDP and the Western NDP bloc where the latter very clearly skews right. I think this is actually something Kory misses in his analysis. Western NDP members might as well be conservatives wearing orange, and the federal NDP doesn't cater to or support their message which is why the two ends of the party don't seem unified.

    • @Griff1984
      @Griff1984 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nSLost
      The federal NDP should care about their Western Canada members as most of their caucus is from Western Canada. The NDPs messaging of more urban progressive politics could at the very least lose them a handful of seats in BC. Their seems to be no push back from Western NDP MPs about this messaging as well.
      The NDP need working class policies right now that are not necessarily conservative policy. They also need to break from the Liberals because just recently, in the media, the TFW issue is now be labeled as anti-worker.
      If the NDP lose their base in Western Canada, they are in deep trouble.

    • @chrisgilmore5737
      @chrisgilmore5737 2 місяці тому

      Not at all. If anything, the closer we get to the campaign and it becomes clear that Poilievre will cut popular social programmes (childcare, dental care, pharmacare - and YES they are popular) to balance the budget and pay for tax cuts for the rich, NDP voters will take notice. Prairie New Democrats are more supportive of pipelines and are less "woke," true, but that doesn't mean they support trickle-down economics or austerity. They've voted NDP all these years for a reason...

  • @jomeara0
    @jomeara0 2 місяці тому +2

    Jordan is desperate. Like the NDP.

  • @willamcmullan9777
    @willamcmullan9777 2 місяці тому

    By the way, I am not an NDP voter in federal elections, and I don't like Singh either. I do apologize to Jordan, who is not Rachel!

  • @jarogerson
    @jarogerson 2 місяці тому +11

    While the three gentleman are willing to criticize the respected party they support, Jordan continues to bang the NDP drum regardless of the problems their leadership and policy has created. Sorry, Jordan, but it’s time you loose the NDP blinders and join the theme of the podcast, and discuss the shortfalls of the NDP without taking it so personal. Your blind faith is not helping them and it is not good for this podcast.

    • @FlagrantJelly
      @FlagrantJelly 2 місяці тому +6

      Yeah Jordan's front of blind support and optimism for Singh's leadership just doesn't come across as credible. It's hard to trust that she actually believes the rhetoric.
      Herle and Reid are openly partisan, but maintain credibility by expressing exasperation and frustration with the sorry state of the Liberals.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому +2

      @@jarogerson They all are blindly partisan a significant portion of the time. When was the last time Kory genuinely criticized the Tory's? He'll make a coded comment here or there but rarely anything amounting to criticism.
      Scott and David are harsh on the LPC because they're not in the Trudeau camp. They recognize it's time for their party to move on.
      Despite his scandal laden government when has Kory said a bad word about Ford? Plenty of room for criticism there but not a peep out of Kory mouth.
      That being said, I do agree that I wish Jordan would call out Singh more. I completely agree with the commentary on him in that he's total dead weight. Even if the party loyalists are supportive of the policy accomplishments from the S&C agreement Canadians as a whole aren't interested.

    • @jarogerson
      @jarogerson 2 місяці тому +4

      I agree they are all partisan, but I find Jordan seems unable to offer any criticism against any NDP organization, be it the Federal Party or an NDP provincial Party and goes to such absurd lengths to justify their actions, no matter what. I’m getting to the point of just fast forwarding through her talking points because I already know what she will be saying. Including the “Hey You’s”.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jarogerson She's doing the same job as any of them. Especially when compared to Kory. The only two offering harsh criticism of their party are Scott and David and that's because, in my opinion, they recognize how deeply unpopular their party leader and, as a result, their party is.
      If they were ahead in the polls and the LPC & Trudeau were productive and fighting they'd be rallying as well.
      You're free to criticize her and even call her a partisan hack if you like but you have to see the irony of doing that when it's literally a group of partisan hacks. And I don't necessarily mean that in a negative way. But it's a bunch of people who work in communications and messaging for political parties. It's literally their job to spin and create a narrative.
      And I'll reiterate again that I wish she was more critical of Singh and I wish the NDP would ditch him. But the exact same thing can be said about Ford who's already in power, has shown his corruption and utter disregard for voters, contempt for opponents and willingness to hand tax payer money to his buddies. Not a peep from Kory. Just sayin.

    • @jarogerson
      @jarogerson 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stratford374 I think Kory (although yes, extremely partisan), has from time to time offered a criticism of Ford and the actions of the Party, or other Conservative governments... and all I am saying is that no matter what anyone says about the NDP or Singh and how deserved they are of the remarks, Jordan seems willing to defend the undefendable... Her tunnel vision IS more intense than the others and honestly, in my opinon makes her a less effective pundit for the NDP.

  • @girthbrooks6567
    @girthbrooks6567 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Kory for the real talk on jagmeet and the ndp, doing the lords work 🫡

  • @marcschouten3527
    @marcschouten3527 2 місяці тому

    That’s weird. I was also at a bar. We were at the Kings Head in Kitsilano Vancouver

  • @gailg2327
    @gailg2327 2 місяці тому

    Interesting discussion but around the edges at times. Go deeper if you like! Enjoyable, thank you!

  • @rolandh8058
    @rolandh8058 2 місяці тому +2

    Quantity has a quality all of it's own, so no one is against any immigration, but many are against mass, excessive, forced immigration. We used to have a high trust society, with high social cohesion, but that is not to be taken for granted, it can quickly be eroded, and disappear, along with adequate infrastructure, social services, housing, law and order. Sooner than we realize we won't have a country.

  • @davidburke2666
    @davidburke2666 2 місяці тому +2

    A lively and interesting programme. The insights are always worth listening to. As a prairie boy, good to see others from Saskatchewan doing so well. Thank you.

  • @karinturkington2455
    @karinturkington2455 2 місяці тому +2

    Great show guys.

  • @ricklatour2794
    @ricklatour2794 2 місяці тому

    18m in bonuses - wont miss the cbc

  • @brettparnell8254
    @brettparnell8254 2 місяці тому

    The NDP has no shot for the next decade, but something tells me that Wab Kanew, not a Liberal, will be the candidate who defeats Polievere at some point.

  • @acuteawareness
    @acuteawareness 2 місяці тому +2

    Missed her ❤️🙌🏻

  • @kqh123
    @kqh123 2 місяці тому +1

    Welcome back Jordan

  • @ricklatour2794
    @ricklatour2794 2 місяці тому

    peel off votes to 40% eh jordan

  • @forklaundry
    @forklaundry 2 місяці тому +1

    Jordan's back!

    • @pt93music
      @pt93music 2 місяці тому +3

      Betting she wished the vacation was a little longer 😂

  • @williamstewart7725
    @williamstewart7725 2 місяці тому

    Great show, guys!

  • @oldtimer7979
    @oldtimer7979 2 місяці тому +2

    Walz? He makes most people puke.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      No. He makes MAGA think about tampons and couches.
      More sane people either like him or at least think he's a welcome change from an arsehole like Trump.

    • @FlagrantJelly
      @FlagrantJelly 2 місяці тому

      ​@stratford374 The pick will be looked back on as a massive mistake if Pennsylvania loses Harris the presidency though. Walz is alright for short term vibes, but I there's a good chance picking him was a massive blunder.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому +1

      @@FlagrantJelly Shapiro didn't guarantee Pennsylvania and VPs rarely do anything but bring vibes. And Walz bring positive energy, which adds to the overall positivity and optimism that's shaping Harris's campaign.
      Trump/Vance is negative, vindictive and backward looking. People are ready to move forward and to at least try and be hopeful about the future.
      I see it as a very positive decision. The only people saying this has doomed her ticket are the Republicans who are terrified of him because their tired old attacks fall flat. He's not a socialist liberal commie coastal whatever. He's a Midwestern dad who served in the reserves, likes guns and has enormous amounts of empathy and charisma.

    • @FlagrantJelly
      @FlagrantJelly 2 місяці тому

      @stratford374 While Walz presents as a moderate, he's governed like a progressive. I just think not picking Shapiro is a missed opportunity to reach out to moderates. Walz isn't disastrous, but all that he really offers is good vibes. Maybe vibes will end up being enough, but if Harris loses (espeically in pensylvania), people are going to be much more critical of thr Walz pick.

    • @stratford374
      @stratford374 2 місяці тому

      @@FlagrantJelly Is he left wing? Sure. Moreso than Harris? Sure. But he's certainly not radical.
      And yeah, Monday morning quarter backing will happen no matter what. If she loses it'll be everything from Biden should've stayed to Walz was a bad pick. And if you she wins it'll be Walz was the perfect choice and Biden was right to drop out.
      If nothing else Shapiro already had baggage that was leaking and the Republican reaction of saying she should've picked him shows pretty clearly where their heads are at.
      Walz is a left leaning moderate. His most radical positions are what? Free lunches for kids? Menstrual products for teens? He advocates for a basic level of empathy and care that governments and politicians should be providing. If for no other reason than they are deeply popular issues that poll extremely well.

  • @jenmazz1257
    @jenmazz1257 2 місяці тому

    Yes Scott. Everything you say is coming from a partisan aspect. Every. Single. Episode. Yawn 🥱

  • @nealgray4071
    @nealgray4071 2 місяці тому

    Great show, always a fun part of the week. Korey's talking points are pretty stale now thou, glad to see him given less room to say the same thing's over and over. Plenty of other spaces for that mindless partisan stuff, nice to see real discussion on actual issues here.

    • @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages
      @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages 2 місяці тому +3

      Actual issues? They talked about how many seats Liberal-NDP government is going to loose. Seen the polls over the last year? Kory message is spot on. The truth hurts, don't it:)

  • @willamcmullan9777
    @willamcmullan9777 2 місяці тому

    I enjoy listening to political discussions and hope to learn from them, but the language on this discussion was disgusting and unnecessary. The English language is versatile, and there are ways to express views without going to the gutter. All 3 men indulged. Rachel did not follow them, thankfully.

  • @SheriOberman
    @SheriOberman 2 місяці тому

    I think the NDP should argue that Liberals and Conservatives are bad faith actors, who cling to the inside track FPTP gives them. In fact, Liberals would rather see the Conservatives installed in 2 of every 3 seats in the House of Commons than cut Poilievre down to the number of seats his vote merits with proportional representation.
    Liberals and Conservatives don't care about putting the country first. They care about imposing their will on the country, be that defunding the CBC or expanding Medicare only to allow it to be dismantled by their partner in duopoly.
    Duopoly is bad for the country. We see that in the arrogance, indifference and entitlement Liberals and Conservatives show toward voters. Liberals and Conservatives ultimately have so little confidence in their offer that they refuse to dismantle the duopoly, which gives them an inside track to power.
    FPTP is electing Poilievre. It is converting a mere 42% of the vote into 2/3 rds of the seats in the House of Commons. FPTP gives Poilievre a 50% boost in seats with Trudeau's blessing.
    Trudeau won't contain Poilievre and play the PR card he holds. He's putting party before country. Poilievre just feels that support from Liberals, no matter what Liberals say about the many scary aspects of Poilievre's offer. Singh should try to put a pox on both their houses by pointing out Trudeau's bad faith.
    Voters feel hopeless. Our votes will give Poilievre a massive majority, but it's not supported by a real majority of voters. It's a rigged game.
    www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/analysis/2024/08/08/time-to-act-on-electoral-reform-promise

    • @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages
      @JamesMcNeillmcneilmortgages 2 місяці тому +1

      Only problem is the NDP just don't have the skill or $$ to do it. Jagmeet has turned them into the party of grifters. Canadians see the Federal NDP the same way they see the CBC. No value:(

  • @stuckinlodi100
    @stuckinlodi100 2 місяці тому

    We have a Stellar lineup today" and the Hey Youse
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