Can someone jog my memory. Circa 2014, Thomas Mulcair refused to get a security Briefing over a topic I can’t remember. At the time, according to Mulcair, he would be beholden to secrecy, and couldn’t criticize Harper over that particular issue. I just can’t remember what that issue was. (Also note that this is probably the reason why Mulcair agrees with Poilievre on not getting a security briefing.)
I have located the issue. Trudeau and Mulclair in 2015 refused a secret briefing from the PCO about the details of the proposed TPP. The argument was that if briefed, they couldn’t criticize, and that Harper should make the details of the proposed agreement public. Sound familiar?
Isn’t funny how no one is talking about the NDP. Layton must be rolling over in disappointment how the party he built is so weak today. Very much like it was when Layton first took it over. It will be an uphill climb for both the Liberals and the NDP
Mulcair was in the same situation as Poilievre around 2014. Mulcair refused to be briefed for all the same reasons that Poilievre stated. It is odd, that Mulcair’s precedent of secrecy is never mentioned.
Mulcair is being consistent with a situation back in 2015, when he was opposition leader. Trudeau and Mulclair in 2015 refused a secret briefing from the PCO about the details of the proposed TPP. The argument was that if briefed, they couldn’t criticize, and that Harper should make the details of the proposed agreement public.
So what happens when Trudeau walks out of the caucus? Then the only option is to resign or sit as independants and to abstain from voting in a confidence vote.
I used to be a pastor in a church. Every year, my position came up for review. It was understood that if I did not have at least 80% of the congregations support, it was time for me to resign and move on. Less than 80% meant that I would be constantly putting out bush fires of unhappy people and couldn't do my job. Justin Trudeau has already lost control of Parliament, too busy putting out bushfires to get anything done. Now that he has lost over 20% of caucus support, he will be spending his time putting out the fires there. Meanwhile, there is a country to run and he doesn't have the time. Those who say that there is no mechanism to force him to go simply lack the courage to stand up and say, "Go and go now." For heaven's sake, you Backbenchers are going to lose your job anyways. You might as well go down swinging now doing the right thing. You will save your integrity if not your jobs.
Give Poilievre a chance to show what he's got to offer to save this destroyed country. I and many other Canadians hate Trudeau. Get Trudeau out. I'm always on Kory's side. He sees what the rest of you don't seem to be able to open your minds to.
I believe to Jordan’s comment that they are not approaching Trudeau about leaving is that how can you. This guy rules in forms of his way or the highway. Do I need to remind you what happened to Raybould. You can’t talk to this guy. No one can. You can present your ideas but he will do what he wants to do. Live in that world for 9 years and you will realize why they are going about it like they are. No one can ever tell Trudeau to knock it off when he goes to far. Like the vacations he takes. He is entitled and there is no going back. Humility does not have a place in his world. Narcissism all the way.
No punch landed what so ever. Pierre has explained his reasoning time and time again. Besides, who is the PM again? Oh yeah, Trudeau. He who has the power to release the names. So release them instead of playing games
Hey pt93music! That's weird because from all the previous discussions we've had you never seem to like the facts. At least not when they challenged your narrative. Good to know!
Dynamic discussion on every issue this week! One observation I made this morning during my early UA-cam enjoyment was that the number of views for that time of the day was curiously about 152 more than usual. Only thing I can figure - it was the Liberal caucus (less one) seeking direction on how to remake the bed they all had a roll in shitting in.
I can't help but think that Trudeau will be remembered as Canada's Fidel Castro or Nicolae Ceaușescu, especially if and when he prorogues parliament indefinitely. To paraphrase Freeland, "do we continue with democracy"?
When the foreign interference happens in the CPC leadership races it's the leader of the CPC's problem. When it's involving CPC MP's or candidates, it's the leader of the oppositions problem. Unless you want Trudeau to tell Poilievre which MP's he's allowed to run in the next election?
Trudeau is done and just deciding when to prorogue Parliament. Doesn’t matter who is running as leader; Carney, Christy Clark, Freeland, Anand, Frankie Bubbles, Joly et al. We’re done with 9 years of incompetence, arrogance and corruption. DONE. ☑️ ✌🏻🆘🇨🇦
He just needs to go, we don’t want his extreme 2030 net-zero policies and soul destroying, negative rhetoric. Justin is not Pierre, the opposition leader nor his father, not even close. God bless Canadians trying to cope…..terrible BCNDP policies, how voters could vote for NDP, mind blowing. Nothing wrong with Rustad and conservatives, just now, good man, good people. Thanks for a good discussion, as always.
Hope you’re feeling better soon. Release the names Mr. Trudeau. That’s the actual solution. The gag order with 14 year criminal offence doesn’t apply to JT. It’s by design. Cope.
About the PM’s “performance” - is he ice skating and we are rating his performance, great outfit & nice style? He was of course using a judicial inquiry for partisan political ends and will not name names for any parties - including his - “we know stuff” is schoolyard & juvenile behaviour, but is along time since anyone thought he was a serious leader of Canada!
The leader of the Conservatives should get the clearance and call Trudeau out as a lair. Then what does Trudeau do? Release the names including many Liberals
How come no one talked about Pollieve being in BC apparently campaigning in August 27 -30 2024 when Falcon backed out of the BC election. That's obviously not a coincidence
I believe to Jordan’s comment that they are not approaching Trudeau about leaving is that how can you. This guy rules in forms of his way or the highway. Do I need to remind you what happened to Raybould. You can’t talk to this guy. No one can. You can present your ideas but he will do what he wants to do. Live in that world for 9 years and you will realize why they are going about it like they are. No one can ever tell Trudeau to knock it off when he goes to far. Like the vacations he takes. He is entitled and there is no going back. Humility does not have a place in his world. Narcissism all the way.
Can someone jog my memory.
Circa 2014, Thomas Mulcair refused to get a security Briefing over a topic I can’t remember. At the time, according to Mulcair, he would be beholden to secrecy, and couldn’t criticize Harper over that particular issue.
I just can’t remember what that issue was.
(Also note that this is probably the reason why Mulcair agrees with Poilievre on not getting a security briefing.)
I have located the issue.
Trudeau and Mulclair in 2015 refused a secret briefing from the PCO about the details of the proposed TPP.
The argument was that if briefed, they couldn’t criticize, and that Harper should make the details of the proposed agreement public.
Sound familiar?
My god guys nobody gives a shit what Trudeau says anymore, the majority of people have tuned him out.
He's still the PM currently and one of the most consequential things regarding the next election is whether he stays or goes.
Isn’t funny how no one is talking about the NDP. Layton must be rolling over in disappointment how the party he built is so weak today. Very much like it was when Layton first took it over. It will be an uphill climb for both the Liberals and the NDP
I'd suggest that you read Thomas Mulclair's view of whether Polievre should be read-in and not be able to speak of what he read.
Mulcair was in the same situation as Poilievre around 2014.
Mulcair refused to be briefed for all the same reasons that Poilievre stated.
It is odd, that Mulcair’s precedent of secrecy is never mentioned.
Lol, when all the Poilievre Stan's start quoting Tom Mulcair you know things are getting wacky!
Mulcair is being consistent with a situation back in 2015, when he was opposition leader.
Trudeau and Mulclair in 2015 refused a secret briefing from the PCO about the details of the proposed TPP.
The argument was that if briefed, they couldn’t criticize, and that Harper should make the details of the proposed agreement public.
If scott truly believe that people don't lied under oat, you truly aren't the smart guy I thought you were. Just say it's partisan, then I'll get it.
Accusing the PM of lying under oath is a pretty bold charge. And not one that should be made lightly.
So what happens when Trudeau walks out of the caucus? Then the only option is to resign or sit as independants and to abstain from voting in a confidence vote.
Great discussion again!
I used to be a pastor in a church. Every year, my position came up for review. It was understood that if I did not have at least 80% of the congregations support, it was time for me to resign and move on. Less than 80% meant that I would be constantly putting out bush fires of unhappy people and couldn't do my job. Justin Trudeau has already lost control of Parliament, too busy putting out bushfires to get anything done. Now that he has lost over 20% of caucus support, he will be spending his time putting out the fires there. Meanwhile, there is a country to run and he doesn't have the time.
Those who say that there is no mechanism to force him to go simply lack the courage to stand up and say, "Go and go now." For heaven's sake, you Backbenchers are going to lose your job anyways. You might as well go down swinging now doing the right thing. You will save your integrity if not your jobs.
Give Poilievre a chance to show what he's got to offer to save this destroyed country. I and many other Canadians hate Trudeau. Get Trudeau out. I'm always on Kory's side. He sees what the rest of you don't seem to be able to open your minds to.
I believe to Jordan’s comment that they are not approaching Trudeau about leaving is that how can you. This guy rules in forms of his way or the highway. Do I need to remind you what happened to Raybould. You can’t talk to this guy. No one can. You can present your ideas but he will do what he wants to do. Live in that world for 9 years and you will realize why they are going about it like they are. No one can ever tell Trudeau to knock it off when he goes to far. Like the vacations he takes. He is entitled and there is no going back. Humility does not have a place in his world. Narcissism all the way.
No punch landed what so ever. Pierre has explained his reasoning time and time again. Besides, who is the PM again? Oh yeah, Trudeau. He who has the power to release the names. So release them instead of playing games
God bless Kory. It’s not easy to lay out the facts to three trigger happy liberals every week. 😂
Hey pt93music! That's weird because from all the previous discussions we've had you never seem to like the facts. At least not when they challenged your narrative. Good to know!
@@stratford374 Sorry I don’t bend over for dictators.
People lie under oath. I've been there and witnessed it.
Even if that's his view, it's crazy for him to be so snooty that Kory raised the possibility.
A big punch landed!😂😂
Dynamic discussion on every issue this week! One observation I made this morning during my early UA-cam enjoyment was that the number of views for that time of the day was curiously about 152 more than usual. Only thing I can figure - it was the Liberal caucus (less one) seeking direction on how to remake the bed they all had a roll in shitting in.
I can't help but think that Trudeau will be remembered as Canada's Fidel Castro or Nicolae Ceaușescu, especially if and when he prorogues parliament indefinitely. To paraphrase Freeland, "do we continue with democracy"?
Kory is right fouriegn interference is the Prime Ministers problem not the leader of the opposition
When the foreign interference happens in the CPC leadership races it's the leader of the CPC's problem. When it's involving CPC MP's or candidates, it's the leader of the oppositions problem.
Unless you want Trudeau to tell Poilievre which MP's he's allowed to run in the next election?
Trudeau is done and just deciding when to prorogue Parliament. Doesn’t matter who is running as leader; Carney, Christy Clark, Freeland, Anand, Frankie Bubbles, Joly et al. We’re done with 9 years of incompetence, arrogance and corruption. DONE. ☑️ ✌🏻🆘🇨🇦
Country before party. Well said Jordan.
He just needs to go, we don’t want his extreme 2030 net-zero policies and soul destroying, negative rhetoric. Justin is not Pierre, the opposition leader nor his father, not even close. God bless Canadians trying to cope…..terrible BCNDP policies, how voters could vote for NDP, mind blowing. Nothing wrong with Rustad and conservatives, just now, good man, good people. Thanks for a good discussion, as always.
Hope you’re feeling better soon. Release the names Mr. Trudeau. That’s the actual solution.
The gag order with 14 year criminal offence doesn’t apply to JT. It’s by design.
Cope.
About the PM’s “performance” - is he ice skating and we are rating his performance, great outfit & nice style? He was of course using a judicial inquiry for partisan political ends and will not name names for any parties - including his - “we know stuff” is schoolyard & juvenile behaviour, but is along time since anyone thought he was a serious leader of Canada!
Hurly a Lana Del Rey fan. Love it.
Please keep the great pods coming. Thanks to all of you.
Korey referring to somebody as snooty made me laugh if you look up snooty in the dictionary there’s a picture of him.
Great episode. Love listening to you all. Very diverse and multi faceted.
The leader of the Conservatives should get the clearance and call Trudeau out as a lair. Then what does Trudeau do? Release the names including many Liberals
How come no one talked about Pollieve being in BC apparently campaigning in August 27 -30 2024 when Falcon backed out of the BC election. That's obviously not a coincidence
" Puppeteer propaganda Pollieve" serving up 🍎🍎 for the weak sheep
I believe to Jordan’s comment that they are not approaching Trudeau about leaving is that how can you. This guy rules in forms of his way or the highway. Do I need to remind you what happened to Raybould. You can’t talk to this guy. No one can. You can present your ideas but he will do what he wants to do. Live in that world for 9 years and you will realize why they are going about it like they are. No one can ever tell Trudeau to knock it off when he goes to far. Like the vacations he takes. He is entitled and there is no going back. Humility does not have a place in his world. Narcissism all the way.