Trudeau, Women, & Minorities: the Brutal Reality | Celina Caesar-Chavannes | EP 493

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  • @Robyrusslive
    @Robyrusslive 24 дні тому +1544

    Every Canadian needs to hear this conversation

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 23 дні тому +14

      It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.

    • @Blakpepa
      @Blakpepa 22 дні тому +5

      ​@jeffspicolli593 that role at Queens wasn't previous to her getting into politics, she got that role years after she left

    • @PeanutWarrior2135
      @PeanutWarrior2135 22 дні тому +5

      It is up to us to share it

    • @flamedphoenix84
      @flamedphoenix84 22 дні тому +15

      There are a lot of videos that needs to be seen by all Canadians. Just like the documentary Forsaken Warriors by Aaron Gunn. The Podcast by Jordan Peterson In Defense of Canada called (DEI, Gender, and the Military), and A soldier's worldview Called (Living through the hell of war), and a bunch of video by Northern Perspective. There is so much information that is hiding to the people of Canada that needs to be seen by all.
      And watching committee meeting on ParlVu which gives you the best abilities to see how any government treat the people under them.

    • @PeanutWarrior2135
      @PeanutWarrior2135 22 дні тому +8

      @flamedphoenix84 The funny/sad part is I do watch committee on parlvu. I am also a member on Northern Perspective so we have similar taste 😀

  • @BalikTrollbane
    @BalikTrollbane 23 дні тому +972

    God bless this brave woman for standing up to bullies and wanting to actually represent the people

    • @ToastytheG
      @ToastytheG 22 дні тому +5

      And that's about all there is to say about that.

    • @exeter66
      @exeter66 22 дні тому +17

      "THE LEVEL OF CONTEMPT and almost HATRED that he approached me with....I have never felt more scared in my life to be in a room with someone..." JT is an ABUSER who needs to be LOCKED UP!

    • @toddmank45
      @toddmank45 22 дні тому

      ​@@exeter66he's a rapist. He sexually assaulted a girl. FJT. No forgiveness for that

    • @TheBrendon67
      @TheBrendon67 19 днів тому +4

      Funny how the guy who speaks about bullies IS the biggest bully.
      Just like when bullies in a school wear their special “anti-bullying shirts” and say bullying is wrong.
      Ha. Hilarious.
      Stupid shirt day stuff (but that’s a very different gripe).

    • @OmniUniv
      @OmniUniv 19 днів тому

      Yet you probably hate her cuz she’s dei so don’t be all nice now go ahead say she doesn’t deserve to be in this country haha 🤣

  • @davidboda3667
    @davidboda3667 22 дні тому +792

    This is the face of bravery. We need more Canadians like this

    • @Kid_Kootenay
      @Kid_Kootenay 22 дні тому +11

      ya it was actually oddly encouraging to hear somone in that government was suffering similar feeing's of depression as a great many Canadians

    • @evemaria37
      @evemaria37 21 день тому +8

      ​@@Kid_Kootenayonly the " no opinions " ones stays. Puppets only please. Soros doesn t need the wise ones.

    • @Silanthi_Valamban
      @Silanthi_Valamban 20 днів тому

      you mean more black people like this?

    • @TheBrendon67
      @TheBrendon67 19 днів тому +6

      Yup!
      She sacrificed everything to leave.
      And she left quietly and with class.
      No theatrics, just a crap ton of integrity.
      Not many people like that.
      Just look at the NDP for the antithesis of her.

    • @sash7551
      @sash7551 16 днів тому +9

      We also need less Canadians like Trudeau in positions of power

  • @staceycampeau1729
    @staceycampeau1729 19 днів тому +626

    Bullied by the most powerful man in Canada and not only is she still standing, but she has the courage and strength to speak out. God bless!

    • @dakotahstr
      @dakotahstr 18 днів тому +7

      Dictators bully do the not?

    • @andrepastor4844
      @andrepastor4844 17 днів тому +6

      And the full support of over half of us.

    • @parvent3556
      @parvent3556 15 днів тому

      A few people get stronger when 'wronged' and the adversity, in hindsight, is a blessing in disguise. Look at JP and how they've gone after him since he challenged the 'compelled pronoun' BS from the JT Liberals - meteoric rise to fame and global following.

    • @karmacrae
      @karmacrae 13 днів тому

      @@andrepastor4844 Only half those who voted

    • @JeffMTX
      @JeffMTX 12 днів тому +3

      Man? Nah

  • @Alipotamus
    @Alipotamus 15 днів тому +90

    California woman here. Loved this. I pray and WORK for freedom everywhere in our world. Good luck Canada! 🇺🇸👍❤️

    • @cinders302
      @cinders302 13 днів тому +6

      I'll say thank you on behalf of myself and most Canadians. Good luck coming at you living in a state where, at one time, many people were geographically envious

  • @kathleenmacphee2441
    @kathleenmacphee2441 20 днів тому +280

    Jordan, thank you for continuing to cover Canadian stories and interviewing Canadians - I truly appreciate it, please keep it up! Celina, you are a badass and I'll be buying your book. Way to stand your ground and have integrity within a world of dishonest politicians.

  • @GregoryCampbellSwag
    @GregoryCampbellSwag 22 дні тому +644

    What an honour to have someone with such integrity, bravery and character serve in our government.

    • @lorak3079
      @lorak3079 21 день тому +21

      Did you notice that intellectual Liberal MPs w integrity are fired by Turdeau or quit on their own?!

    • @SylvieChomyshyn
      @SylvieChomyshyn 21 день тому +2

      Refreshing

    • @wilfredmcgillicuddy7902
      @wilfredmcgillicuddy7902 20 днів тому +2

      Trudeau doesn't like those qualities.

    • @TheBrendon67
      @TheBrendon67 19 днів тому +6

      Sad she won’t be coming back.
      She would have been good for the liberals.
      They need more people like this.
      I vote conservative, but anywhere this woman serves would be better because of her.

    • @dlspiritdancer9548
      @dlspiritdancer9548 18 днів тому +2

      I'm not Canadian but admire & respect someone with this rare character (esp in govt). This world would be in a much better place if all govts had her values. She's def earned my respect!

  • @Delux-HooverMax-model
    @Delux-HooverMax-model 22 дні тому +736

    Trudeau expected her to “tow the line” and be a good “token”. He chose the wrong person. She is incredibly strong willed and self aware. Well done

    • @comment1ism
      @comment1ism 21 день тому +8

      she did nothing in parliament. she could have worked within the system. she chose to do otherwise.

    • @peterthart531
      @peterthart531 19 днів тому +10

      "TOE" -"Toe the line" is an idiomatic expression meaning either to conform to a rule or standard, or to stand in formation along a line.

    • @helenezonana
      @helenezonana 14 днів тому +6

      @@comment1ismit would have been against her integrity, something less people have little of theses days

    • @liberality
      @liberality 13 днів тому +9

      ​@@comment1ism She did put forward a brain care plan, it was ignored.

    • @candygarfield1479
      @candygarfield1479 13 днів тому

      My husband ended iisnavy CAREER at 20 years after taking chiefs exam at 15 years in getting 3rd score but being promoted because they " needed to fill it with a Hispanic "
      So he came home and told me and I've never been prouder of him.
      Retired in 2003 after going in at 17 right after graduation.
      This happened around the same time frame. 2016
      Not only that, but don't ask don't tell , began showing up in women's blues.. AND subordinate coming in from boot camp being ON PHSYCE MEDS, threatening to sue, emotionally unstable.
      I'll never forget him coming home one evening and telling me the OLD NAVY WAS DEAD. and we had to grieve that in order to move on.
      Towards the end, the service men also had to submit to Anthrax shots, a series of 6, that changed many mentally.
      My husband became a chronic alcoholic.. and long as he showed up so er at 7, never got called to the mat. So he just drank more and more and we had to separate just as we went civilian.
      He still a daily part of my life, my best friend, we just can't raise our kids like that, DND then as adults now, appreciate that I did that.
      I had him home when he was sober. But it was such a a fight for him . He has never been able to pursue a second career. Riddled with PTSD, anxiety and paranoia.
      But only gets 25% disability.
      Which we are now working on. Together. He deserves 100%

  • @xjohnnydsonx
    @xjohnnydsonx 13 днів тому +92

    Only 20 mins in. From UK but this lady brings tears to my eyes because the contrast between her real life experience and hard work and integrity and the likes of Trudeau and other non entities with power in all western democracies is shocking.
    God bless her 🙏

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 8 днів тому

      She's a racist Narcissist who wants everyone to share her inflated opinion of herself.
      Just because Trudeau is a POS it doesn't mean she isn't one herself.
      Totally unaware that her own behaviour, esp. insulting and making racist comments about her constituents, is a problem.

  • @carmenboyd121
    @carmenboyd121 16 днів тому +73

    A woman of substance, integrity, intelligence, bravery! I would vote for her any time of the day! Fascinating interview….an inside glimpse that not all is as they say it is.

  • @nachyomoney3598
    @nachyomoney3598 24 дні тому +746

    As an American and seeing the failures of both Canada's and my country's political leaders, I think it is time the people of our 2 great countries stand up and demand accountability.

    • @sarahcinnamonthriving9563
      @sarahcinnamonthriving9563 22 дні тому +24

      YES!!!! 🙏

    • @brndxt
      @brndxt 22 дні тому +38

      You vote for Trump, and I shall vote for Poilievre.

    • @PHDavid2
      @PHDavid2 22 дні тому +4

      @@brndxtlol trump is not accountable for he’s mistakes , and not in the same political spectrum as canadian conservatives

    • @JB-wr2lx
      @JB-wr2lx 22 дні тому +29

      At least your have a constitution and rights , Canadians have a flawed document that can be walked over by provincial and federal government , “ not withstanding “

    • @johnhildenbrand2642
      @johnhildenbrand2642 22 дні тому

      Lol, "accountability" meaning what? They have violated every law under the sun, at some point it must be considered treasonous, but the penalties for these crimes will never be carried out. There is no accountability in the weak willed west anymore, we the people don't have the stomach for it anymore

  • @craiglasby7436
    @craiglasby7436 24 дні тому +710

    Celina, it means so much to have you share your story. Please rest assured that many will deeply respect you for your service in an untenable situation.

    • @celinacaesar-chavannes5789
      @celinacaesar-chavannes5789 22 дні тому +31

      Thank you.

    • @exeter66
      @exeter66 22 дні тому +8

      yes brave lady indeed. Will JT send out his SHERMAN/CLINTON GOONS on her now??

    • @pmartin6086
      @pmartin6086 21 день тому +6

      100% So much respect for her.

    • @mandarinfox1813
      @mandarinfox1813 21 день тому +7

      I was working in an office in the Navy one day and realized everyone in the entire department was well, not white. I was the only white one and I am actually half Filipino! So all of us were the token department. Very strange when I said it out loud to the black commanding officer…who realized I was correct.

    • @leannemctaggart147
      @leannemctaggart147 20 днів тому +7

      Thank you Celina for speaking out! You are a very strong women.

  • @maryavanbeelen9276
    @maryavanbeelen9276 24 дні тому +643

    You're a courageous woman, Celina

    • @appleratpipe
      @appleratpipe 24 дні тому +2

      Not even a human

    • @zarbins
      @zarbins 24 дні тому +9

      @@appleratpipe "Not even. A human!" might come across better ;)

    • @zorkin2013
      @zorkin2013 23 дні тому +5

      She’s just here to sell a book

    • @jeff393C
      @jeff393C 23 дні тому +2

      @@zorkin2013 exactly, not a peep until now, 10 years later.

    • @crystalberthelette2843
      @crystalberthelette2843 22 дні тому +5

      Absolutely, that's abuse 💯 terrible!

  • @SylvieChomyshyn
    @SylvieChomyshyn 20 днів тому +76

    This interview is very revealing as to the character and integrity of the mp's who stayed on and also reveals much about the PM himself.

  • @christinedixon7376
    @christinedixon7376 8 днів тому +19

    My heart goes out to her. What an intelligent, and brave woman she is. Always stand tall as you are a powerful woman who inspires many women. I do believe! You seem like a very down to earth person as well, and I bet you are an excellent mother also. Geez what an impressive journey that's brought you far! Just wonderful, and you deserve so very much happiness in all that you do!
    Kudos to you. Sorry that I'm not educated enough to have better words to express.
    I believe she needed to stand up to him. For herself, and her mental health. Which is a whole lot more important than what he could ever think. It's actually beyond over his head! As for saying anything to him is worthless because he doesn't care about anybody but himself. (Forgive me Lord)
    There's many like him in this world unfortunately.
    I've said you, and she because I don't know if she'd ever read the comments here or not.
    So good of you Jordan to have her speak out on your channel. You yourself are a wonderful, compassionate man!
    May God bless you, and yours!
    All the very best always!!

  • @karencherry3892
    @karencherry3892 23 дні тому +743

    😮Sounds like Celina was too smart for Trudeau. She was doing what all MP's should be doing! Taking care of her constituents and her role in the larger umbrella of Canada! A principled person kudos to her!

    • @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
      @lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 21 день тому +9

      Not too smart; too virtuous.

    • @KerrieRedgate
      @KerrieRedgate 21 день тому +20

      Trudeau may have temporarily won that battle but Celina won the ‘war”, so to speak. Congrats to Celina for her bravery under fire, for holding to her integrity. Powerful woman!! Maybe she’ll be Prime Minister one day.

    • @HumptyDumpty66632
      @HumptyDumpty66632 21 день тому +23

      Integrity, values and honour, something the entire liberal party is void.

    • @gilz8505
      @gilz8505 21 день тому +15

      Ethical

    • @hotdogger49
      @hotdogger49 20 днів тому

      This is what I always thought about Trudeau. He surrounds himself with the dumbest people in the room, so he looks smart. Another backfire by Trudeau!

  • @malcolmrae77
    @malcolmrae77 24 дні тому +1466

    Trudeau keeps saying “we’re focused on Canadians.” The majority of Canadians want him gone.

    • @jimarger8533
      @jimarger8533 24 дні тому +47

      Focusing the propaganda, not the listening, or the servicing.

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 24 дні тому +22

      He says we want them to govern aka not leave. Which is just fake

    • @big_red_machine3547
      @big_red_machine3547 24 дні тому +83

      Who else here cringes every time Trudeau speaks for “Canadians?”
      How about, “Canadians” want you the hell out and don’t let the door hit you on the ass

    • @jax2428
      @jax2428 24 дні тому +51

      I can't afford this government to be "focusing on" and "delivering for" me any longer.

    • @adamannala5498
      @adamannala5498 23 дні тому +8

      Yet you won’t vote his party out of power. So you therefore don’t want him gone….

  • @eugenefdscodes
    @eugenefdscodes 24 дні тому +1083

    Woah, you got an ex-Liberal MP to come onto your podcast?! Kudos to Celina for coming on.

    • @Sun-ic7rq
      @Sun-ic7rq 24 дні тому

      There's actually plenty of these people.... you can't join a leftist dictatorship without being abused and used. Most of them dont talk publicly...

    • @eugenefdscodes
      @eugenefdscodes 24 дні тому +44

      Jesus, she's so intelligent and accomplished. What a shame that she had to leave government. What a shame that I only know her for supporting DEI.

    • @big_red_machine3547
      @big_red_machine3547 24 дні тому +40

      Yes. She’d be great working with a real leader, perhaps on the conservative front

    • @big_red_machine3547
      @big_red_machine3547 24 дні тому +39

      @@eugenefdscodesWell, at least she learned - the hard way, that DEI isn’t what it appears to be on the political side

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 24 дні тому +28

      @@eugenefdscodes Supporting DEI is a reason in itself to disqualify her from public office.

  • @BabyDoll-pw5hd
    @BabyDoll-pw5hd 11 днів тому +15

    Thankful for people like her!! This is what integrity looks/sounds like.

  • @jmac79ers
    @jmac79ers 13 днів тому +26

    It truly is baffling how so many Canadians either can't or won't see through Justin's facade. What a wonderful interview, Celina absolutely deserved to be in a high functioning part of the Canadian gov't, and was denied the chance to really shine

  • @Xenosonmatt
    @Xenosonmatt 24 дні тому +337

    This is why Canadians (for the most part) are sick of this lying government.

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 23 дні тому

      It is a globalist regime.... Not a government

    • @HighlifeLuna
      @HighlifeLuna 23 дні тому

      I'd love a lying government. That's to be expected. We have a psychotic government.

  • @RtooGtoo
    @RtooGtoo 22 дні тому +335

    I'm so proud of this woman for standing up for herself and her values. I couldn't be more endeared by her character. What a courageous individual.

  • @olivemcrae9566
    @olivemcrae9566 22 дні тому +236

    Thank you Celina. Now all of Canada knows what Trudeau thinks of and how he will treat anyone who disagrees with him.

    • @emjaydark2811
      @emjaydark2811 20 днів тому

      All those clapping and nodding seals that sit behind Trudeau 🎉in parliament are real testament to the kind of person who continues to participate in such a destructive and mendacious leadership. Lap dogs and do nothings.

    • @SherriFlemming
      @SherriFlemming 19 днів тому +5

      Exactly. Anyone that challenges or disagrees with him.
      It's hard to believe most Canadians never saw through Trudeau's charade of leadership.

    • @Crazylab1616
      @Crazylab1616 18 днів тому

      Trudeau is a disgusting human being he needs to be voted out asap...

    • @SallyT269
      @SallyT269 18 днів тому +2

      I think Canadians intuitively knew what he is like. We have at some point in our lives crossed paths with someone just like him. FJT

    • @kalenveitch5584
      @kalenveitch5584 15 днів тому +2

      This is just one more in a long line of cruel scandals. But I'm glad another person has had their eyes opened.

  • @margjohnson571
    @margjohnson571 15 днів тому +32

    I have so much admiration for both Dr. Peterson and Celina.

    • @blackey0078
      @blackey0078 11 днів тому

      wow. you too find homosexuality fascinating. what is so interesting about butt fu**ers?

  • @HVACKABOOM
    @HVACKABOOM 14 днів тому +10

    What an incredible individual. Thankyou for this amazing interview.

  • @saltnlight8072
    @saltnlight8072 21 день тому +235

    An absolutely compelling interview. *Thank you* , Celina. You are an absolute treasure of a human being. It takes real grit and bravery to tell such experiences to a friendly face, never mind strangers online. If I may encourage you…it is absolutely *not* your fault that you were demeaned, threatened and bullied. Trudeau is to blame, not you. He bullied you because he is abusive, not because you are weak.
    Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for bringing to light such important information. It was heartening to see your kind treatment of a traumatized person.
    God bless you both. 🇨🇦❤️

  • @Ms.HoneyBee
    @Ms.HoneyBee 23 дні тому +265

    Excellent podcast. She is a Canadian hero that we need to speak out right now. Bravo!

    • @comment1ism
      @comment1ism 21 день тому +1

      she is not a hero. she did pretty much nothi. she was my mp. she did nothing for whitby. she could have worked within the system.

    • @doublecheckityt
      @doublecheckityt 20 днів тому

      She’s not a hero. She’s just jaded and wants to write a book.
      She has a story arch where she stopped boot licking, so in that way she’s a “hero.”
      Jordan B. Peterson is a Hero.
      With time, depending on what she does, she may become a hero.

    • @davelovell7705
      @davelovell7705 18 днів тому +2

      @@comment1ism Ethical people will not work within a corrupt system. An ethical person would know that.

    • @comment1ism
      @comment1ism 18 днів тому

      @@davelovell7705 i am an ethical person. lots of ethical people get stuck in corrupt systems.

    • @NancyGreen-bh8qc
      @NancyGreen-bh8qc 12 днів тому

      @@comment1ism

  • @Moldman
    @Moldman 24 дні тому +310

    Jeeeeez I like this woman. She has integrity, she is a strong individual.

    • @zorkin2013
      @zorkin2013 23 дні тому +6

      She sat for 3 1/2 years just collecting a paycheck not doing anything she definitely was not treated correctly, but I cannot fathom how it took her that long to find yourself something to do

    • @Bountiful_Events
      @Bountiful_Events 23 дні тому +6

      And all of the people with integrity were eventually weeded out, one way or another.

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 8 днів тому

      Just bc Trudeau lacks integrity, doesn't mean that clashing with him makes her virtuous.
      She's a racist narcissist.

  • @heretodaygonetomaui3567
    @heretodaygonetomaui3567 14 днів тому +6

    Thank-you Celina Caesar-Chavannes for sharing your story - took a lot of fortitude.

  • @9xixix9
    @9xixix9 12 днів тому +6

    Poised, eloquent, articulate and principled. This is the type of woman that young girls should learn from and emulate.
    Amazing interview.

  • @kimlloyd930
    @kimlloyd930 21 день тому +161

    That’s how Narcissists work, destroying your confidence and self worth.

    • @chuckboozer8417
      @chuckboozer8417 15 днів тому +6

      See any resemblance of Trudeau to Gavin Newsome?

    • @blackey0078
      @blackey0078 11 днів тому +2

      some people are garbage

  • @strong60s
    @strong60s 24 дні тому +442

    A lesser person may have capitalized on their "role" as token minority showpiece. Celina clearly was so much more capable than what Trudeau picked her for. And THIS is precisely the evil side of DEI...that competent people are treated like token identifiers rather than high functioning members of a team - regardless of gender, ethnicity etc!

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 23 дні тому +20

      It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University where she promoted diversity hiring.

    • @andrebeck
      @andrebeck 23 дні тому +15

      1000% well said. DEI contradicts Martin Luther King's speech - judging people by the colour of their skin rather than by the content of their character. Well, I'm beyond IMPRESSED by Celina's character.

    • @thomascordery7951
      @thomascordery7951 22 дні тому

      When Celina Caezar-Chavannes was first elected, she was so much more qualified and accomplished than Justin Trudeau has ever been throughout his petty life.

    • @ronderuiter3298
      @ronderuiter3298 22 дні тому +12

      I'm surprised she is an advocate for DEI after her experience.

    • @Mowglibaloo2
      @Mowglibaloo2 22 дні тому

      So true

  • @linchen5129
    @linchen5129 22 дні тому +123

    OUR COUNTRY NEEDS TO SEE THIS

    • @mikep4869
      @mikep4869 5 днів тому

      CBC will be right on this...or maybe not.

  • @SherrySmith-wz9er
    @SherrySmith-wz9er 14 днів тому +13

    This woman is a champion for standing up for truth and not accepting the lies and hypocrisy being dished to the public. Another reason she may have also been affected emotionally to her core from this experience is the deep disillusionment that comes when a previous altruistic faith and preconceived idea that the people placed in positions of power and the system itself is full of rightly motivated, good and well intentioned individuals who have the best interest of others at heart and then find out it's not true. It's a hard reality shift when you find yourself swimming for your life in a shark tank and you're the prey. Absolutely heartbreaking but once you get back on your feet, extremely motivating to stand up for those who are voiceless and invisible. I hear you both, loud and clear. Thanks for your bravery, passionate heart, intelligence and non compromise. We need many more like you to uncover the darkness so we can heal in the Light.

    • @elephantintheroom-francois494
      @elephantintheroom-francois494 12 днів тому +2

      This comment should have a thousand likes!!

    • @blackey0078
      @blackey0078 11 днів тому

      if women want to be treated equally then they will have to earn it

    • @carenmiller-lazarz229
      @carenmiller-lazarz229 10 днів тому

      Would be interested if she is a friend of our (USA) Dr. Ben Carson. God bless you, beautiful soul.

  • @perisgathoni8945
    @perisgathoni8945 14 днів тому +6

    Absolutely eye opening interview. Thank you Dr. Peterson for having Celina on your show. Canada under Trudeau has been going downhill for a long time.

  • @sharonmann8885
    @sharonmann8885 24 дні тому +358

    Celina, you are a very courageous and strong woman. After listening to your story, I have to say that I deeply respect your conviction and ethics. You are to be applauded 😊

  • @galinasadovskaya709
    @galinasadovskaya709 21 день тому +171

    I am not Canadian. In fact, I am from Belarus and I live in Poland. I know about Trudeau and his politics because I watch Jordan Peterson. BUT because of the people like Celina I am not yet ready to give up my hope for the world! Thank you!

    • @KeepUpTV90
      @KeepUpTV90 6 днів тому +1

      The Poland prime minister is awesome. Wish we had a leader like him here in Australia!

  • @brendamichalowsky1710
    @brendamichalowsky1710 21 день тому +65

    I as a Canadian am ashamed by this situation,you go woman you are great!

  • @Dedicated1Always
    @Dedicated1Always 16 днів тому +5

    Thank you Celina for your honesty. I have all respect for you and your decision to leave that office. Wow!! Don't ever change!!!❤

  • @dougmhenriksen
    @dougmhenriksen 10 днів тому +4

    Celina is the type of person I admire and respect. I'm glad she's a fighter. Her interaction with Jordan seems to have given her a new spark! Love this interview.

  • @kimtouesnard1766
    @kimtouesnard1766 23 дні тому +182

    Everyone in Canada should watch this! She is Brilliant! A strong, Honest person. This interview shows the real Trudeau and his severe degree of narcissism.

    • @exeter66
      @exeter66 22 дні тому +10

      lockHIMup!

    • @comment1ism
      @comment1ism 21 день тому +4

      i would not call her brilliant.

    • @kimtouesnard1766
      @kimtouesnard1766 21 день тому

      @ Because she’s a Lib, lol. Ya you’re right.

    • @kalenveitch5584
      @kalenveitch5584 15 днів тому +2

      ​@@comment1ism I find it difficult to watch liberal mps talk about how much they love the liberal party and then are surprised by it's policies. Many of which they vote to support only to be surprised that it doesn't work out like they want.

  • @mssimone7147
    @mssimone7147 24 дні тому +275

    This was a phenomenal interview.
    You have no idea what you have done. Thank you. I felt like I was going in circles and thinking their is something wrong with me and their isnt. Ive cried, sleepless nights, night terrors, you name it.
    A black girl born and raised in Canada has gotten harder as I have gotten older.
    Thank you for providing this amazing women on your platform to speak her truth.

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 23 дні тому +12

      It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.

    • @nilsbrown7996
      @nilsbrown7996 23 дні тому +2

      That the position she has now isn’t it?

    • @flonoiisana4647
      @flonoiisana4647 22 дні тому +6

      @@jeffspicolli593 Maybe she didn't think of DEI in terms of race and gender and so one but on poverty, education and so on. Maybe. It seems to be what transpired in her interview.

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 22 дні тому +1

      @@nilsbrown7996 I believe so.

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 22 дні тому +6

      @@flonoiisana4647 Maxime Bernier after a number of run ins with her said of Caesar-Chavannes "she thinks 'the world revolves around (her) skin colour." Bernier was reacting to a Globe and Mail article in which the author says Liberal MP Celina Caesar-Chavannes 'focuses less on policy and more on personal matters'
      As an opportunist she rode the coattails of Ministers Wilson -Raybould and Philpott out of government despite the issues of these senior Cabinet Ministers being entirely unrelated to hers.
      I detest Trudeau but in the case of dealing with this difficult woman I believe Trudeau to be the victim.

  • @donnavallee8023
    @donnavallee8023 23 дні тому +150

    Thank you for this. The truth has to surface. The courage in Jody Wilson-Raybould and Celina Caesar-Chavannes is beyond
    measure. This is the integrity we need to finally bring this wonderful country to all that we believe in as Canadians.

  • @dougmoore5252
    @dougmoore5252 15 днів тому +8

    I pray for the Canadians!

  • @harniersuarez1815
    @harniersuarez1815 14 днів тому +6

    This conversation needs to be seen much more than 8M.

  • @jamesclemens7100
    @jamesclemens7100 23 дні тому +81

    This LADY, in my opinion, is truly impressive. Keep your head up and stay true to yourself. As I said truly IMPRESSIVE.

  • @WrangleMcDangle
    @WrangleMcDangle 24 дні тому +160

    Massive respect to Celina. I can't imagine how many people she had telling her not to do this. This is important and I applaud her.

  • @cindyjaquier7365
    @cindyjaquier7365 23 дні тому +110

    So sorry that Celina Caesar Chavannes and Jody Wilson Raybould had to deal with this kind of behaviour from our prime minister. He is a narcissist. You were being gaslighted. Hard to come to terms with what was really going on. Bravo for speaking up ❤

    • @sash7551
      @sash7551 16 днів тому +3

      Why is he still here making our lives hell?

    • @sash7551
      @sash7551 16 днів тому

      The media does NOT care THEY ARE PROTECTING TRUDEAU and they won’t bite the hand that feeds them

  • @tran-vm3uu
    @tran-vm3uu 13 днів тому +4

    Celina you are smart in focusing in your strength. The university requires many unnecessary classes that brought your GPA down.
    Thank you Dr Peterson for providing information that they can not shut you up.

  • @jray7949
    @jray7949 14 днів тому +5

    Wow, can’t believe I watched the whole thing. Your videos always suck me in.I really injoy JBP, you are a treasure to this world. This was so interesting,sad and inspiring. Celina, thank you so much for sharing . You don’t sound like a politician,you sound honest. I look forward to following your future endeavors. I’m a fan.

  • @ahmasweez9735
    @ahmasweez9735 24 дні тому +161

    Well done -- this woman is a TRUE Canadian hero

    • @MarinaLaroche
      @MarinaLaroche 24 дні тому +1

      Lol. Look for my post, you're missing lots.

    • @big_red_machine3547
      @big_red_machine3547 24 дні тому +7

      Another Liberal who had to learn the hard way. Very important that she came forward too

    • @stizan9185
      @stizan9185 23 дні тому +7

      Why a Canadian hero, she just got upset because they didn't gave her more attention

    • @borat9108
      @borat9108 23 дні тому +8

      Do you even know what the word "hero" stands for???? Don't dilute the meaning of that very important word.

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@borat9108 Jordan is closer to a Hero than this woman who has wasted our money and probably profited.

  • @dawnknox4640
    @dawnknox4640 21 день тому +39

    Jordan, thank you for giving Celina a voice! Celina thank you for your courage and strength in telling your story. To the audience like & share, share, share this is very important!

  • @codyrockall6978
    @codyrockall6978 24 дні тому +171

    I really admire this woman. She has done a huge service to Canadians for doing this interview, and I’m sure it wasn’t easy. She has a lot of integrity, and I know that feeling of hopelessness in a narcissistic relationship she was alluding to… there is indeed so much cognitive dissonance and it’s so eroding to a persons esteem and sanity. I’m really proud of her for speaking to you, Jordan. And this was a very good interview, thank you.

  • @d.traceysmith4822
    @d.traceysmith4822 18 днів тому +7

    Thanks so much Jordan for working hard to get someone from Trudeau's government to speak. This is such an important interview. I hope you don't have more repercussions

  • @proscaffna
    @proscaffna 3 дні тому +1

    Well done Celina! An example of character and professionalism.

  • @RickCarroll-Canada
    @RickCarroll-Canada 22 дні тому +29

    Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a name to be proud of. You are a great Canadian.

  • @jacobb.
    @jacobb. 24 дні тому +234

    I wish all Canadians and Americans would watch Dr. P's interviews. It would really open their minds to what is going on.

    • @jessemontano762
      @jessemontano762 24 дні тому +2

      i think most of them have. lol

    • @LZed-g4k
      @LZed-g4k 24 дні тому +2

      I second this! 👍

    • @scribe9841
      @scribe9841 23 дні тому +1

      I agree, Dr. Phil's the man.

    • @carolcollins6243
      @carolcollins6243 23 дні тому

      Unfortunately too many university graduates have been indoctrinated into believing that Dr P is troublesome, deceitful, dangerous, untrustworthy, so on. I have an American Social Worker friend who cautioned me about Dr P because she had had a psychology instructor who had discouraged the students reading anything written by him. He’s obviously shaken some chains.

    • @whiskybrush3219
      @whiskybrush3219 23 дні тому +10

      He's way too dangerous! Helping people think critically is a borderline hate crime in Canada.

  • @mondolilith7917
    @mondolilith7917 22 дні тому +50

    Integrity, honesty, and empathy are rare character traits in all levels of government these days. And the men & women that possess these necessary characteristics in order to represent us… get run out or disenfranchised… or leave due to the gaslighting. Celina, thank you for your service.

  • @david_onthetrail
    @david_onthetrail 4 дні тому +1

    Dr. Peterson that was a great interview with Celina Caesar-Chavannes. I loved how you stopped at several parts to say " lets break this down " for a better sense of digging in deeper and Celina agreeing and giggling too, so cute. A lot has come out in to the open here and I agree Canadians need to here this, where are the media stations on this? Keep up with these great interviews and thank you for this one. Celina I wish you all the best, with prosperity and health in your future.

  • @christinakeel4598
    @christinakeel4598 24 дні тому +161

    Celina- some of your story almost brought me to tears. I loved this interview and the follow up on Daily Wire. You are so smart and honest. I would be so happy if liberals here in the U.S. would be willing to have dialogs like this with us conservatives instead of the name calling. I find you personally compelling and lovely. May God watch over you, bless you, and grant you peace.

    • @RAY-uh3np
      @RAY-uh3np 23 дні тому +6

      100% agree! I don’t subscribe to Daily Wire but this interview has me enquiring further, I need to watch the entire interview. And I was welling up too.

    • @celinacaesar-chavannes5789
      @celinacaesar-chavannes5789 22 дні тому +7

    • @519_jackpot_scottie
      @519_jackpot_scottie 22 дні тому +3

      I wish they could have a conversation without blowing up also. Here in Canada most of the left are the same no matter what country they live in. Don’t let this interview fool you about them here.

  • @tammyday9389
    @tammyday9389 22 дні тому +33

    Good for you, Celina. It's brave to speak up about injustice.

  • @Matthewprinciple
    @Matthewprinciple 24 дні тому +147

    Bless you Dr. Peterson.

    • @JagadguruSvamiVegananda
      @JagadguruSvamiVegananda 24 дні тому

      I'm not sure why any thinking person would give heed to the imperfect opinions of some ignorant psychology professor. There are a handful of EXTREMELY wise sages currently on this planet who can logically and completely answer practically any question that an intelligent soul is likely to ask regarding morals and ethics.
      The fact that Jordan supports men buggering each other (by which I mean, that he supports homosexuality and other criminal activities, such as the unnecessary consumption of poor innocent animals) is MORE than sufficient proof that he is not as religious as he claims, and that any decent, holy person ought to shun his inane teachings and flee into the loving arms of a teacher of Truth.
      Furthermore, in a recent interview on Benjamin Shapiro's UA-cam channel, he admitted that his wife figuratively (and I'm sure also LITERALLY) wears the pants in his household. 👖
      I would be more than pleased to provide you with links to the UA-cam channels of a few enlightened beings who will quickly set you on the path to perfection, as opposed to the DELUDED moral subjectivism professed by "Doctor" Peterson (pun not intended).
      Please find below a couple of such ENLIGHTENED masters to which I referred above:
      Professor Alan Watts
      (now deceased, so he doesn't have his own UA-cam channel - just search for his videos on numerous extant channels)
      Swami Sarvapriyananda
      ( ua-cam.com/users/vedantany1894
      or search for "Vivekananda Samiti")
      Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda
      ( www.youtube.com/@TheWorldTeacher )

  • @desmondsilva3313
    @desmondsilva3313 14 днів тому +4

    She is a smart and determined lady. God bless her.

  • @karsmc1589
    @karsmc1589 14 днів тому +2

    Thank you for your bravery! Your strength and resilience is so very admirable. If we could find more people with your convictions we would live in a strong robust Canada!!

  • @christinacline4432
    @christinacline4432 24 дні тому +55

    "Self-awareness is a heck of a thing." I'd very much like this woman as a friend.

  • @gparsr
    @gparsr 20 днів тому +34

    Awesome Celina! Thanks JP for introducing me to her story.

  • @northernplaytime
    @northernplaytime 20 днів тому +42

    She is bad ass for speaking up . Thank you Celina .

  • @debtaylor8664
    @debtaylor8664 11 днів тому +1

    Dear Celina,
    Thankyou from the bottom of my heart. For being here at this time and showing up and standing up.
    You are an inspiration.
    Love from Australia and pls send my country your prayers as we have the MAD censorship bill about to go before the upper house.

  • @helenezonana
    @helenezonana 14 днів тому +10

    I have felt contempt about Trudeau for a while now from his lack of integrity but this interview proves what I was thinking and more. He sounds like a textbook narcissist and no one would want to work with a person like that. I feel sorry for what Celina went through but she is a very strong woman and hope she continues with her successes in life. Very powerful woman!Don’t let this experience bring you down at all. He is the monster.

  • @darriusdeburgh7333
    @darriusdeburgh7333 23 дні тому +83

    The podcast medium has literally saved Western society. Long form transparent conversations about current and important issues are poised to become the dominant form of media. Celina, you’re loved and appreciated. You’ll do great things for Canada! Jiu-jitsu and firearms training may be great practical outlets for you. All the best 🙏

  • @curtisphillips3219
    @curtisphillips3219 20 днів тому +32

    That may be the best interview yet, and that is saying something. What a tremendously important conversation. Shame on our media for not exploring this story ( these stories) further.

  • @brentchislett7865
    @brentchislett7865 22 дні тому +90

    How has this story never been told publicly?! Our media is failing us.

    • @emjaydark2811
      @emjaydark2811 20 днів тому

      The media is not a reliable source of information on ANY issue or topic. Not TV, radio or print. Propaganda only. Paid shills.

    • @heatherreid1371
      @heatherreid1371 19 днів тому

      @brentchislett7865 because unfortunately our media is being bought out by Trudeau

    • @Randomcliff01
      @Randomcliff01 19 днів тому +9

      Failed, sold out and evil

    • @robk3005
      @robk3005 19 днів тому +9

      That is what happens when media companies are beholden to government subsidies & grants to stay in business.

    • @carolannelawry
      @carolannelawry 18 днів тому +1

      @@robk3005. I understand you are directing your comment at CBC but there are other outlets not receiving Gov subsidies but they are Corporate and have their Masters too. I think Jordan Peterson has only his conscience to answer to and we’ve all come to the right place to be informed truthfully

  • @EvaAlveal-mt5hj
    @EvaAlveal-mt5hj 14 днів тому +6

    Pierre for PM❤❤❤
    Thank you Celina, may God bless you for speaking truth🙌🙌🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🙌🙌🙌

  • @MrBigWaveDave23
    @MrBigWaveDave23 11 днів тому +1

    What a truly strong and graceful woman. She showed real bravery and tenacity. Bravo to her 👏🏽

  • @ceeceebeebee889
    @ceeceebeebee889 23 дні тому +71

    I could listen to her all day. She is such an engaging speaker.

  • @gord1420
    @gord1420 22 дні тому +54

    Thank you Celina for your service and for coming forward and telling your story.

  • @rampartranger7749
    @rampartranger7749 24 дні тому +56

    I come across a lot of people who had lousy grades, “got lost” for a few years, and then really blossomed. Don’t quit.

  • @Comedy4The21Century
    @Comedy4The21Century 15 днів тому +4

    Wow, what an incredible interview. Shout out Celina, you’re a beacon of integrity, wits, and honesty.
    Incredible insights as well to what an egotistical, arrogant tyrant Trudeau is. This is a must watch for Canadians!

  • @gusmatsoukas1007
    @gusmatsoukas1007 18 днів тому +5

    Narcissists don’t do well with people that have strong ethics and morals

  • @Canada151337
    @Canada151337 24 дні тому +213

    I remember this lady being in the media a few years ago and not really thinking much of her, given what the Liberal party has been doing to Canada since 2015... The fact that she appears on Dr. Petersons podcast alone goes a long way to redeeming her in my eyes. Kudos!

    • @liamrobinson2084
      @liamrobinson2084 24 дні тому

      Yes I seem to remember her too, pushing quite hard on the intersectional grift, if I remember correctly. .. something about a Conservative member should keep his white male mouth shut about some sacred cow or other. I am extremely sceptical of her sincerity, but if the good doctor is willing to give her the time, it's probably worth a listen. She must have had one heck of a "road to Damascus" moment to end up here!

    • @jeffspicolli593
      @jeffspicolli593 24 дні тому +9

      It's unfortunate he has assisted in her rehabilitation as she is a unapologetic wokester.

    • @Anonymous_Whisper
      @Anonymous_Whisper 23 дні тому

      ​@@jeffspicolli593still people need to know. Even if she is less than stellar

    • @explorer4464
      @explorer4464 23 дні тому +7

      She hardly trusts her husband of 17 years… wow.

    • @camilleinlondon
      @camilleinlondon 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@jeffspicolli593"wokster" ...all these tropes. Why not say the word you REALLY want to say? 🙄

  • @hindes5509
    @hindes5509 23 дні тому +55

    I cannot tell you how immensely I admire you, Celina Caesar-Chavannes. You are not only brilliant but beyond brave for what you survived and for your ability to re-emerge, clad in the self-knowledge of who you truly are. And to have done so under a pressure I can't imagine. I was so moved and actually felt understood by your conversation. I am an arts teacher who was persecuted at a wickedly woke school and I kept my head down and tried to ignore the insanity alighting around me. I thought if I could work harder and better, be more inventive and dedicated, I could stay to my principles and just teach children. Towards the end of my time (before I was forced to resign), I spoke up and was roundly slapped about with illogical retorts.I was ashamed, also betrayed by the people who said they wanted what was best for children but couldn't see the damage they continued to hash upon them. Then one day my best friend said, 'you haven't done anything wrong.' It was so simple and powerful. I hadn't. You didn't. I am stand and applaud you for telling of your experience. Thank you for calling out the racism of the left. Thank you for understanding the magnificence of you in the face of ignorance and malice. I've spent the last few months telling anyone who showed interest in talking about education in the U.S. now about what is actually happening. So many people think 'oh, no, it's not that bad.' It's actually terrifying worse than people can imagine. And people who do not believe evil exists, cannot begin to believe what lies they are being told and what enduring harm is being foisted onto children in public schools.

    • @jvssocialmedia2459
      @jvssocialmedia2459 8 днів тому

      Celina IS woke. Racist woke, only in her world racism vs. whites is ok.

  • @smugdug
    @smugdug 24 дні тому +45

    Wow. This woman has character. Integrity.

  • @loveintheformofkenzie3027
    @loveintheformofkenzie3027 13 днів тому +2

    Thank you, Celina, for your courage to share your experience publicly. And - for being someone within government to have held yourself and your service with such integrity, even within such intimidating and belittling conditions. It’s heartening to witness your character. Much respect. And thank you Dr Peterson for amplifying the reach of her testimony. It’s helpful and further vindicating to understand more deeply what kind of PM we currently have. Grateful to walk amongst you both.

  • @rccdrrichiecolelmftsap302
    @rccdrrichiecolelmftsap302 17 днів тому +2

    Mad respect for this woman who had the heart, self-love & courage to stand for what’s right.
    Thank you for interviewing her Dr. Peterson!
    Sincerely,
    Dr Richie Esquivel-Cole

  • @perhaps565
    @perhaps565 22 дні тому +42

    Celina, you give me hope! I was beginning to believe that Canadians with your level of integrity, intelligence and work ethic were all compromised. Thank you for your service to Canada and thank you for sharing a truth about the management of Canada that many of us suspected but could not prove. Warm regards from a troubled Canadian.

  • @kylerollheiser5694
    @kylerollheiser5694 24 дні тому +100

    What a great guest Jordan

  • @goldminer83
    @goldminer83 24 дні тому +83

    It's refreshing to see even Liberals opening their eyes and speaking up for what is best for Canadians not Trudeau!!

  • @JesseSaintJesse
    @JesseSaintJesse 17 днів тому +2

    LOOOOOOVE Celina Caesar-Chavannes!!! Truth teller!!

  • @Kathy007s
    @Kathy007s 3 дні тому +1

    Celina, you are a great, very intelligent, moral and ethical woman!

  • @darynfisher6954
    @darynfisher6954 24 дні тому +58

    I've always been interested in interviews by Dr. Peterson. I really focused on this one. I am even more impressed with how he approaches the conversation. And when he states the clinical description of things from his profession it only confirms his legitimate care and interest for his guests. I can see his true intent to not force an agenda and let a conversation happen naturally. Truly amazing! One of the best insights into Canadian politics in a long time!!

  • @pacer9168
    @pacer9168 24 дні тому +65

    Jordan Peterson’s affirmation (starting at 1:23:00) of her response to Trudeau’s apology had to be emotionally healing for her. He brilliantly broke down why she felt the way she did and affirmed her response and emotions to the stressful situation.
    Self doubt is something we all have to work through in situations of abuse. We can wonder if our response is valid or if we are part of the problem.
    Peterson has a unique ability to place himself in the circumstances of someone else and relate to them in a way that makes them feel heard.

    • @steelesmith1379
      @steelesmith1379 24 дні тому +8

      he was a clinician for years

    • @dakotabohlmann4510
      @dakotabohlmann4510 23 дні тому +9

      @@steelesmith1379not all clinicians can do that. Still worth mentioning.

    • @Bobcagon
      @Bobcagon 22 дні тому +12

      Nobody knew Justin Trudeau better than his ex wife. If you are married for any length of time you know your spouse.Or ought to know your spouse. Those who voted for this prick. This phoney. This arrogance.. are blind and deaf. When Sophie had enough of this asshole that said volumes to anyone who still was infatuated with the acting. Yet here we are we are today with a sizeable population still in love with Justin Trudeau.That to me is the saddest aspect of Canadian society. Willful ignorance.

    • @steelesmith1379
      @steelesmith1379 22 дні тому +1

      @@Bobcagon he’s handsome and those castro genes are powerful lol.

    • @randimillington1422
      @randimillington1422 17 днів тому

      @@Bobcagonif I could give this comment 1000 likes I would. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @kermitthefrog2311
    @kermitthefrog2311 24 дні тому +24

    I was not aware of any of this as an Albertan. Very enlightening.

  • @Speaktruth-d5g
    @Speaktruth-d5g 13 днів тому +2

    This is an amazing interview worth your time. The lady clearly describes what a disempowerment looks like, how it is done and how it impacts your self confidence. “Remember who you are” is a powerful advice to regain your self confidence. She may help many leave similar environment. Thank you both

  • @elysechartrand3692
    @elysechartrand3692 10 днів тому +1

    Love this lady’s honesty, she a godly woman. Thank you for your stand and thank you for letting us know Canadians. We definitely need to pray for our government.

  • @bradoalfredo5203
    @bradoalfredo5203 22 дні тому +27

    Thanks for sharing Celina. May your actions inspire the rest of those cowards in our disastrous house of parliament to step up by stepping down or walking across the floor. Finally working for Canadians instead of their corrupt leaders/handlers.

    • @almad4355
      @almad4355 21 день тому +1

      👏👏👏👏

  • @w.a.l5202
    @w.a.l5202 20 днів тому +15

    I love hearing her speak. Strong, confident, not afraid to show her vulnerabilities, she is exactly the kind of Parliamentarian we need in the HoC. God bless her.

  • @dakotabohlmann4510
    @dakotabohlmann4510 23 дні тому +37

    The US could use this amazing woman, extremely noble 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @emjaydark2811
      @emjaydark2811 20 днів тому +3

      We could use a few of your amazing women too: Tulsi, Elise Stephanic, MTG. Noem, and many others.

  • @Jontellis
    @Jontellis 15 днів тому +1

    Great podcast, really appreciate Celina’s candor!

  • @jasonplugowsky3086
    @jasonplugowsky3086 16 днів тому +2

    What a phenomenal politician. Well spoken, incredible ethics, intelligent, what a rare human being.
    Thrilled to see this Canadian content! Jordan Canada NEEDS your assistance through these dark days.

  • @princessmargaretuncommonwe7209
    @princessmargaretuncommonwe7209 24 дні тому +68

    You seem like a very upstanding woman, Celine. Thank you for telling Canadians and THE WORLD what it is we are dealing with here in Canada 🇨🇦. Your problem was that you are capable and have integrity. OUR DEAR LEADER did not recognize that in you, and thought YOU should be GRATEFUL to Him for GIVING you a position!!! Perhaps many women would be grateful and just go along to get along, and enjoy the perks. The look of CONTEMPT He had for you was because you did not recognize HIS BENEVOLENCE toward you. He saw you as someone very UNGRATEFUL for being invited on to His gravy train and REJECTING HIS offer. I suppose He also recognized on some level that HE did not measure up to YOUR INTEGRITY - and again on some level, He felt bad.