"THE LEVEL OF CONTEMPT and almost HATRED that he approached me with....I have never felt more scared in my life to be in a room with someone..." JT is an ABUSER who needs to be LOCKED UP!
Funny how the guy who speaks about bullies IS the biggest bully. Just like when bullies in a school wear their special “anti-bullying shirts” and say bullying is wrong. Ha. Hilarious. Stupid shirt day stuff (but that’s a very different gripe).
Yup! She sacrificed everything to leave. And she left quietly and with class. No theatrics, just a crap ton of integrity. Not many people like that. Just look at the NDP for the antithesis of her.
It truly is baffling how so many Canadians either can't or won't see through Justin's facade. What a wonderful interview, Celina absolutely deserved to be in a high functioning part of the Canadian gov't, and was denied the chance to really shine
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.
There are a lot of videos that needs to be seen by all Canadians. Just like the documentary Forsaken Warriors by Aaron Gunn. The Podcast by Jordan Peterson In Defense of Canada called (DEI, Gender, and the Military), and A soldier's worldview Called (Living through the hell of war), and a bunch of video by Northern Perspective. There is so much information that is hiding to the people of Canada that needs to be seen by all. And watching committee meeting on ParlVu which gives you the best abilities to see how any government treat the people under them.
A few people get stronger when 'wronged' and the adversity, in hindsight, is a blessing in disguise. Look at JP and how they've gone after him since he challenged the 'compelled pronoun' BS from the JT Liberals - meteoric rise to fame and global following.
I'll say thank you on behalf of myself and most Canadians. Good luck coming at you living in a state where, at one time, many people were geographically envious
Jordan, thank you for continuing to cover Canadian stories and interviewing Canadians - I truly appreciate it, please keep it up! Celina, you are a badass and I'll be buying your book. Way to stand your ground and have integrity within a world of dishonest politicians.
My husband ended iisnavy CAREER at 20 years after taking chiefs exam at 15 years in getting 3rd score but being promoted because they " needed to fill it with a Hispanic " So he came home and told me and I've never been prouder of him. Retired in 2003 after going in at 17 right after graduation. This happened around the same time frame. 2016 Not only that, but don't ask don't tell , began showing up in women's blues.. AND subordinate coming in from boot camp being ON PHSYCE MEDS, threatening to sue, emotionally unstable. I'll never forget him coming home one evening and telling me the OLD NAVY WAS DEAD. and we had to grieve that in order to move on. Towards the end, the service men also had to submit to Anthrax shots, a series of 6, that changed many mentally. My husband became a chronic alcoholic.. and long as he showed up so er at 7, never got called to the mat. So he just drank more and more and we had to separate just as we went civilian. He still a daily part of my life, my best friend, we just can't raise our kids like that, DND then as adults now, appreciate that I did that. I had him home when he was sober. But it was such a a fight for him . He has never been able to pursue a second career. Riddled with PTSD, anxiety and paranoia. But only gets 25% disability. Which we are now working on. Together. He deserves 100%
Only 20 mins in. From UK but this lady brings tears to my eyes because the contrast between her real life experience and hard work and integrity and the likes of Trudeau and other non entities with power in all western democracies is shocking. God bless her 🙏
She's a racist Narcissist who wants everyone to share her inflated opinion of herself. Just because Trudeau is a POS it doesn't mean she isn't one herself. Totally unaware that her own behaviour, esp. insulting and making racist comments about her constituents, is a problem.
😮Sounds like Celina was too smart for Trudeau. She was doing what all MP's should be doing! Taking care of her constituents and her role in the larger umbrella of Canada! A principled person kudos to her!
Trudeau may have temporarily won that battle but Celina won the ‘war”, so to speak. Congrats to Celina for her bravery under fire, for holding to her integrity. Powerful woman!! Maybe she’ll be Prime Minister one day.
As an American and seeing the failures of both Canada's and my country's political leaders, I think it is time the people of our 2 great countries stand up and demand accountability.
At least your have a constitution and rights , Canadians have a flawed document that can be walked over by provincial and federal government , “ not withstanding “
Lol, "accountability" meaning what? They have violated every law under the sun, at some point it must be considered treasonous, but the penalties for these crimes will never be carried out. There is no accountability in the weak willed west anymore, we the people don't have the stomach for it anymore
A woman of substance, integrity, intelligence, bravery! I would vote for her any time of the day! Fascinating interview….an inside glimpse that not all is as they say it is.
Sad she won’t be coming back. She would have been good for the liberals. They need more people like this. I vote conservative, but anywhere this woman serves would be better because of her.
I'm not Canadian but admire & respect someone with this rare character (esp in govt). This world would be in a much better place if all govts had her values. She's def earned my respect!
Celina, it means so much to have you share your story. Please rest assured that many will deeply respect you for your service in an untenable situation.
I was working in an office in the Navy one day and realized everyone in the entire department was well, not white. I was the only white one and I am actually half Filipino! So all of us were the token department. Very strange when I said it out loud to the black commanding officer…who realized I was correct.
An absolutely compelling interview. *Thank you* , Celina. You are an absolute treasure of a human being. It takes real grit and bravery to tell such experiences to a friendly face, never mind strangers online. If I may encourage you…it is absolutely *not* your fault that you were demeaned, threatened and bullied. Trudeau is to blame, not you. He bullied you because he is abusive, not because you are weak. Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for bringing to light such important information. It was heartening to see your kind treatment of a traumatized person. God bless you both. 🇨🇦❤️
U.S. citizen here. I thank God for courageous men like Jordan Peterson whose courage enables him to interview other courageous people like this amazing lady who doesn’t mince words. Our world needs such leaders! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Who else here cringes every time Trudeau speaks for “Canadians?” How about, “Canadians” want you the hell out and don’t let the door hit you on the ass
All those clapping and nodding seals that sit behind Trudeau 🎉in parliament are real testament to the kind of person who continues to participate in such a destructive and mendacious leadership. Lap dogs and do nothings.
And she’s no victim nor does she want anyone to think of her that way. For some strange reason these young girls play that role like a fiddle and it baffles me. They think it’s strong to be a victim. Something happened
@@user-kk3fy7hn9e Canada has a problem with information digestion, like the USA, but unlike America where people seem to dig their heels in and support one side over the other, Canadians tune out altogether, and vote for whoever says the nicest thing at the right time. It's pathetic but it's changing slowly.
My heart goes out to her. What an intelligent, and brave woman she is. Always stand tall as you are a powerful woman who inspires many women. I do believe! You seem like a very down to earth person as well, and I bet you are an excellent mother also. Geez what an impressive journey that's brought you far! Just wonderful, and you deserve so very much happiness in all that you do! Kudos to you. Sorry that I'm not educated enough to have better words to express. I believe she needed to stand up to him. For herself, and her mental health. Which is a whole lot more important than what he could ever think. It's actually beyond over his head! As for saying anything to him is worthless because he doesn't care about anybody but himself. (Forgive me Lord) There's many like him in this world unfortunately. I've said you, and she because I don't know if she'd ever read the comments here or not. So good of you Jordan to have her speak out on your channel. You yourself are a wonderful, compassionate man! May God bless you, and yours! All the very best always!!
She sat for 3 1/2 years just collecting a paycheck not doing anything she definitely was not treated correctly, but I cannot fathom how it took her that long to find yourself something to do
Spoken like a true white man. Your an... . You didn't listen. When your in the realms the sell you hope that you will get an opportunity. She stood as long as possible before making a decision you... Her paycheck was nothing compared to her business . Didn't you listen no pension.... Nothing.
Canada is very lucky to have a woman with so much to give, so intelligent and with such introspection. Wow ! it's great that Mr. Peterson has given us a chance to hear and become acquainted with this admirable Lady. In my book they both do Canada proud !
This woman is a champion for standing up for truth and not accepting the lies and hypocrisy being dished to the public. Another reason she may have also been affected emotionally to her core from this experience is the deep disillusionment that comes when a previous altruistic faith and preconceived idea that the people placed in positions of power and the system itself is full of rightly motivated, good and well intentioned individuals who have the best interest of others at heart and then find out it's not true. It's a hard reality shift when you find yourself swimming for your life in a shark tank and you're the prey. Absolutely heartbreaking but once you get back on your feet, extremely motivating to stand up for those who are voiceless and invisible. I hear you both, loud and clear. Thanks for your bravery, passionate heart, intelligence and non compromise. We need many more like you to uncover the darkness so we can heal in the Light.
She’s not a hero. She’s just jaded and wants to write a book. She has a story arch where she stopped boot licking, so in that way she’s a “hero.” Jordan B. Peterson is a Hero. With time, depending on what she does, she may become a hero.
I’m coming to this interview a month late, but I’m extremely grateful to Prof. Peterson and Ms. Caesar-Chavannes for this wonderfully enlightening conversation. Ms. Caesar-Chavannes is a tremendously admirable individual. The brief summary of her life story and her accomplishments should be an inspiration to every Canadian. Equally as admirable was her willingness to forgo additional personal and economic gain by divesting from her business to serve her community of Whitby as a federal MP. However, what’s most impressive was her steadfastness in refusing to be used as a puppet by Prime Minister Trudeau and his cabinet of “yes” men and women. In spite of the mental gymnastic required to seek an understanding of her predicament, she understood her worth and chose to face down the giant in the room. I have the utmost respect for her and think that Canada has lost what could have been a significant force in parliament. My hope is that Ms. Caesar-Chavannes finds her way back to politics and considers aligning herself and her values with Mr. Pierre Poilievre and the federal Conservative party as they stand the greatest chance of deposing the small “E” emperor that is Trudeau. As a proud Canadian, I would gladly vote for her. 🇨🇦
Celina, you are a very courageous and strong woman. After listening to your story, I have to say that I deeply respect your conviction and ethics. You are to be applauded 😊
Everyone in Canada should watch this! She is Brilliant! A strong, Honest person. This interview shows the real Trudeau and his severe degree of narcissism.
@@comment1ism I find it difficult to watch liberal mps talk about how much they love the liberal party and then are surprised by it's policies. Many of which they vote to support only to be surprised that it doesn't work out like they want.
What a principled woman. I too have sabotaged my career for honesty. I remember the moments very clearly, you are on a prescipit within seconds. The feeling of being frozen out was lonely but I knew I had done nothing wrong. Once I got my head around, my back strengthened and my shoulders broadened. I bounced back better with pride.
This was a phenomenal interview. You have no idea what you have done. Thank you. I felt like I was going in circles and thinking their is something wrong with me and their isnt. Ive cried, sleepless nights, night terrors, you name it. A black girl born and raised in Canada has gotten harder as I have gotten older. Thank you for providing this amazing women on your platform to speak her truth.
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.
@@jeffspicolli593 Maybe she didn't think of DEI in terms of race and gender and so one but on poverty, education and so on. Maybe. It seems to be what transpired in her interview.
@@flonoiisana4647 Maxime Bernier after a number of run ins with her said of Caesar-Chavannes "she thinks 'the world revolves around (her) skin colour." Bernier was reacting to a Globe and Mail article in which the author says Liberal MP Celina Caesar-Chavannes 'focuses less on policy and more on personal matters' As an opportunist she rode the coattails of Ministers Wilson -Raybould and Philpott out of government despite the issues of these senior Cabinet Ministers being entirely unrelated to hers. I detest Trudeau but in the case of dealing with this difficult woman I believe Trudeau to be the victim.
So sorry that Celina Caesar Chavannes and Jody Wilson Raybould had to deal with this kind of behaviour from our prime minister. He is a narcissist. You were being gaslighted. Hard to come to terms with what was really going on. Bravo for speaking up ❤
As a European, I appreciate so much listen to Jordan Peterson and this video inviting this host was as always so valuable. This is, today, the way to undestand the world because the mainstream media seems to not wanted do this type of work anymore. Explaining and teaching people, that's what information is. Thank you
Thank you for this. The truth has to surface. The courage in Jody Wilson-Raybould and Celina Caesar-Chavannes is beyond measure. This is the integrity we need to finally bring this wonderful country to all that we believe in as Canadians.
Dr. Peterson that was a great interview with Celina Caesar-Chavannes. I loved how you stopped at several parts to say " lets break this down " for a better sense of digging in deeper and Celina agreeing and giggling too, so cute. A lot has come out in to the open here and I agree Canadians need to here this, where are the media stations on this? Keep up with these great interviews and thank you for this one. Celina I wish you all the best, with prosperity and health in your future.
Integrity, honesty, and empathy are rare character traits in all levels of government these days. And the men & women that possess these necessary characteristics in order to represent us… get run out or disenfranchised… or leave due to the gaslighting. Celina, thank you for your service.
I really admire this woman. She has done a huge service to Canadians for doing this interview, and I’m sure it wasn’t easy. She has a lot of integrity, and I know that feeling of hopelessness in a narcissistic relationship she was alluding to… there is indeed so much cognitive dissonance and it’s so eroding to a persons esteem and sanity. I’m really proud of her for speaking to you, Jordan. And this was a very good interview, thank you.
A lesser person may have capitalized on their "role" as token minority showpiece. Celina clearly was so much more capable than what Trudeau picked her for. And THIS is precisely the evil side of DEI...that competent people are treated like token identifiers rather than high functioning members of a team - regardless of gender, ethnicity etc!
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University where she promoted diversity hiring.
1000% well said. DEI contradicts Martin Luther King's speech - judging people by the colour of their skin rather than by the content of their character. Well, I'm beyond IMPRESSED by Celina's character.
When Celina Caezar-Chavannes was first elected, she was so much more qualified and accomplished than Justin Trudeau has ever been throughout his petty life.
I am not Canadian. In fact, I am from Belarus and I live in Poland. I know about Trudeau and his politics because I watch Jordan Peterson. BUT because of the people like Celina I am not yet ready to give up my hope for the world! Thank you!
@@KeepUpTV90 So do I we need his type in UK - he shoots from the hip and puts his foot down over the immigration and migrants problem. We have 2 million poles here running businesses I wonder will they all go back to Poland now they are being cared for.... By a man of substance. Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
I have felt contempt about Trudeau for a while now from his lack of integrity but this interview proves what I was thinking and more. He sounds like a textbook narcissist and no one would want to work with a person like that. I feel sorry for what Celina went through but she is a very strong woman and hope she continues with her successes in life. Very powerful woman!Don’t let this experience bring you down at all. He is the monster.
Jordan, thank you for giving Celina a voice! Celina thank you for your courage and strength in telling your story. To the audience like & share, share, share this is very important!
I cannot tell you how immensely I admire you, Celina Caesar-Chavannes. You are not only brilliant but beyond brave for what you survived and for your ability to re-emerge, clad in the self-knowledge of who you truly are. And to have done so under a pressure I can't imagine. I was so moved and actually felt understood by your conversation. I am an arts teacher who was persecuted at a wickedly woke school and I kept my head down and tried to ignore the insanity alighting around me. I thought if I could work harder and better, be more inventive and dedicated, I could stay to my principles and just teach children. Towards the end of my time (before I was forced to resign), I spoke up and was roundly slapped about with illogical retorts.I was ashamed, also betrayed by the people who said they wanted what was best for children but couldn't see the damage they continued to hash upon them. Then one day my best friend said, 'you haven't done anything wrong.' It was so simple and powerful. I hadn't. You didn't. I am stand and applaud you for telling of your experience. Thank you for calling out the racism of the left. Thank you for understanding the magnificence of you in the face of ignorance and malice. I've spent the last few months telling anyone who showed interest in talking about education in the U.S. now about what is actually happening. So many people think 'oh, no, it's not that bad.' It's actually terrifying worse than people can imagine. And people who do not believe evil exists, cannot begin to believe what lies they are being told and what enduring harm is being foisted onto children in public schools.
The podcast medium has literally saved Western society. Long form transparent conversations about current and important issues are poised to become the dominant form of media. Celina, you’re loved and appreciated. You’ll do great things for Canada! Jiu-jitsu and firearms training may be great practical outlets for you. All the best 🙏
Unfortunately too many university graduates have been indoctrinated into believing that Dr P is troublesome, deceitful, dangerous, untrustworthy, so on. I have an American Social Worker friend who cautioned me about Dr P because she had had a psychology instructor who had discouraged the students reading anything written by him. He’s obviously shaken some chains.
@@robk3005. I understand you are directing your comment at CBC but there are other outlets not receiving Gov subsidies but they are Corporate and have their Masters too. I think Jordan Peterson has only his conscience to answer to and we’ve all come to the right place to be informed truthfully
Celina- some of your story almost brought me to tears. I loved this interview and the follow up on Daily Wire. You are so smart and honest. I would be so happy if liberals here in the U.S. would be willing to have dialogs like this with us conservatives instead of the name calling. I find you personally compelling and lovely. May God watch over you, bless you, and grant you peace.
100% agree! I don’t subscribe to Daily Wire but this interview has me enquiring further, I need to watch the entire interview. And I was welling up too.
I wish they could have a conversation without blowing up also. Here in Canada most of the left are the same no matter what country they live in. Don’t let this interview fool you about them here.
I remember this lady being in the media a few years ago and not really thinking much of her, given what the Liberal party has been doing to Canada since 2015... The fact that she appears on Dr. Petersons podcast alone goes a long way to redeeming her in my eyes. Kudos!
Yes I seem to remember her too, pushing quite hard on the intersectional grift, if I remember correctly. .. something about a Conservative member should keep his white male mouth shut about some sacred cow or other. I am extremely sceptical of her sincerity, but if the good doctor is willing to give her the time, it's probably worth a listen. She must have had one heck of a "road to Damascus" moment to end up here!
Celina, you give me hope! I was beginning to believe that Canadians with your level of integrity, intelligence and work ethic were all compromised. Thank you for your service to Canada and thank you for sharing a truth about the management of Canada that many of us suspected but could not prove. Warm regards from a troubled Canadian.
Every Canadian of African Caribbean decent who are considering voting Liberal needs to hear this conversation. This explains what we saw on Trudeau's 50/50 cabinet.
I just wanted to thank you both for this interview. You both are A-MAZING human beings!!! My heart goes out to ALL those in similar situations and experiences. I find what is said here, powerful. People like you both are my heroes. Thanks for the share! Much love!
I'm not sure why any thinking person would give heed to the imperfect opinions of some ignorant psychology professor. There are a handful of EXTREMELY wise sages currently on this planet who can logically and completely answer practically any question that an intelligent soul is likely to ask regarding morals and ethics. The fact that Jordan supports men buggering each other (by which I mean, that he supports homosexuality and other criminal activities, such as the unnecessary consumption of poor innocent animals) is MORE than sufficient proof that he is not as religious as he claims, and that any decent, holy person ought to shun his inane teachings and flee into the loving arms of a teacher of Truth. Furthermore, in a recent interview on Benjamin Shapiro's UA-cam channel, he admitted that his wife figuratively (and I'm sure also LITERALLY) wears the pants in his household. 👖 I would be more than pleased to provide you with links to the UA-cam channels of a few enlightened beings who will quickly set you on the path to perfection, as opposed to the DELUDED moral subjectivism professed by "Doctor" Peterson (pun not intended). Please find below a couple of such ENLIGHTENED masters to which I referred above: Professor Alan Watts (now deceased, so he doesn't have his own UA-cam channel - just search for his videos on numerous extant channels) Swami Sarvapriyananda ( ua-cam.com/users/vedantany1894 or search for "Vivekananda Samiti") Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda ( www.youtube.com/@TheWorldTeacher )
That may be the best interview yet, and that is saying something. What a tremendously important conversation. Shame on our media for not exploring this story ( these stories) further.
Celina, I applaud you! What guts it must have taken to stand up to that bully. You inspire me to be a better man. As a Canadian, I thank you and I hope you might consider running for the conservatives in the next election. You could make a huge difference in your field of expertise that Trudeau ignored. Give Pierre a chance.
I love hearing her speak. Strong, confident, not afraid to show her vulnerabilities, she is exactly the kind of Parliamentarian we need in the HoC. God bless her.
Wow, what an incredible interview. Shout out Celina, you’re a beacon of integrity, wits, and honesty. Incredible insights as well to what an egotistical, arrogant tyrant Trudeau is. This is a must watch for Canadians!
I've always been interested in interviews by Dr. Peterson. I really focused on this one. I am even more impressed with how he approaches the conversation. And when he states the clinical description of things from his profession it only confirms his legitimate care and interest for his guests. I can see his true intent to not force an agenda and let a conversation happen naturally. Truly amazing! One of the best insights into Canadian politics in a long time!!
Thank you Celina, it takes a strong person to speak out. I'm so ashamed in our Liberal gov since Trudeau came into office. It just shows that what everyone has been saying about him is true. You should run again, but in a party that would value and use your skills set that you bring to the table.
Thank you, Celina, for your courage to share your experience publicly. And - for being someone within government to have held yourself and your service with such integrity, even within such intimidating and belittling conditions. It’s heartening to witness your character. Much respect. And thank you Dr Peterson for amplifying the reach of her testimony. It’s helpful and further vindicating to understand more deeply what kind of PM we currently have. Grateful to walk amongst you both.
You seem like a very upstanding woman, Celine. Thank you for telling Canadians and THE WORLD what it is we are dealing with here in Canada 🇨🇦. Your problem was that you are capable and have integrity. OUR DEAR LEADER did not recognize that in you, and thought YOU should be GRATEFUL to Him for GIVING you a position!!! Perhaps many women would be grateful and just go along to get along, and enjoy the perks. The look of CONTEMPT He had for you was because you did not recognize HIS BENEVOLENCE toward you. He saw you as someone very UNGRATEFUL for being invited on to His gravy train and REJECTING HIS offer. I suppose He also recognized on some level that HE did not measure up to YOUR INTEGRITY - and again on some level, He felt bad.
I would put it like this: Whoever had a shred of decency in Trudeau's Liberal party ....left in the first term. Thank you Celina for sharing your experience with us.
Anyone who was a threat to Trudeau's facade of virtue has been ruthlessly sidelined and excluded from the spotlight in this government. They had a real life astronaut, an actual rocket scientist, in cabinet, and did the same thing to him as they (they being Butts and Telford) did to this woman. Great leaders make the most of talented people around them. Poor leaders are threatened by talented people, because poor leaders see competence as a threat to their position.
💯 percent. The ONLY reason those MPs are turning on him now is because he's hurting their election chances. Scandals, blackface, ethical breachs, division, financial illiteracy, no problem, just don't hurt my election chances.
I believe her and can relate with her 100%. I have felt the same way and even the way you’re treated and how it messes with your head, your psychological health and the amount of time and effort that takes for you to recover from it! Good for her for speaking up ❤ I just hope that one day I will publicly tell my story 🥹
Thanks for sharing Celina. May your actions inspire the rest of those cowards in our disastrous house of parliament to step up by stepping down or walking across the floor. Finally working for Canadians instead of their corrupt leaders/handlers.
What a phenomenal politician. Well spoken, incredible ethics, intelligent, what a rare human being. Thrilled to see this Canadian content! Jordan Canada NEEDS your assistance through these dark days.
Celina, you are way stronger than you give yourself credit for. You stand brave and courageous. Way to go girl, your children have a GREAT MOTHER and a GREAT LADY !!!
I wish this woman would stay in politics. We need people like her. I would hv voted for her as leader of the CPC. Imagine where Canada would be today if all MP’s had her intelligence and integrity. There would be NO WEF in our Cabinet!
Jordan Peterson’s affirmation (starting at 1:23:00) of her response to Trudeau’s apology had to be emotionally healing for her. He brilliantly broke down why she felt the way she did and affirmed her response and emotions to the stressful situation. Self doubt is something we all have to work through in situations of abuse. We can wonder if our response is valid or if we are part of the problem. Peterson has a unique ability to place himself in the circumstances of someone else and relate to them in a way that makes them feel heard.
Nobody knew Justin Trudeau better than his ex wife. If you are married for any length of time you know your spouse.Or ought to know your spouse. Those who voted for this prick. This phoney. This arrogance.. are blind and deaf. When Sophie had enough of this asshole that said volumes to anyone who still was infatuated with the acting. Yet here we are we are today with a sizeable population still in love with Justin Trudeau.That to me is the saddest aspect of Canadian society. Willful ignorance.
Celina you are smart in focusing in your strength. The university requires many unnecessary classes that brought your GPA down. Thank you Dr Peterson for providing information that they can not shut you up.
Based on how she presented in this interview, Celina is a brilliant person. If her abilities were effectively capitalised on she would have been brilliant at representing Canadians. Her honesty, pragmatism, analytical nature and sense of justice is very aligned with Jordan so I’m not surprised she was up for being on his podcast.
Unfortunately there is no way she could have shone in a Trudeau cabinet. That orginazion is based on 90% optics, 5% subterfuge, and 5% racketeering. She was hampered from the start. Wish she would run again, for the conservatives this time.
God bless this brave woman for standing up to bullies and wanting to actually represent the people
And that's about all there is to say about that.
"THE LEVEL OF CONTEMPT and almost HATRED that he approached me with....I have never felt more scared in my life to be in a room with someone..." JT is an ABUSER who needs to be LOCKED UP!
@@exeter66he's a rapist. He sexually assaulted a girl. FJT. No forgiveness for that
Funny how the guy who speaks about bullies IS the biggest bully.
Just like when bullies in a school wear their special “anti-bullying shirts” and say bullying is wrong.
Ha. Hilarious.
Stupid shirt day stuff (but that’s a very different gripe).
Yet you probably hate her cuz she’s dei so don’t be all nice now go ahead say she doesn’t deserve to be in this country haha 🤣
This is the face of bravery. We need more Canadians like this
ya it was actually oddly encouraging to hear somone in that government was suffering similar feeing's of depression as a great many Canadians
@@Kid_Kootenayonly the " no opinions " ones stays. Puppets only please. Soros doesn t need the wise ones.
you mean more black people like this?
Yup!
She sacrificed everything to leave.
And she left quietly and with class.
No theatrics, just a crap ton of integrity.
Not many people like that.
Just look at the NDP for the antithesis of her.
We also need less Canadians like Trudeau in positions of power
It truly is baffling how so many Canadians either can't or won't see through Justin's facade. What a wonderful interview, Celina absolutely deserved to be in a high functioning part of the Canadian gov't, and was denied the chance to really shine
Every Canadian needs to hear this conversation
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.
@jeffspicolli593 that role at Queens wasn't previous to her getting into politics, she got that role years after she left
It is up to us to share it
There are a lot of videos that needs to be seen by all Canadians. Just like the documentary Forsaken Warriors by Aaron Gunn. The Podcast by Jordan Peterson In Defense of Canada called (DEI, Gender, and the Military), and A soldier's worldview Called (Living through the hell of war), and a bunch of video by Northern Perspective. There is so much information that is hiding to the people of Canada that needs to be seen by all.
And watching committee meeting on ParlVu which gives you the best abilities to see how any government treat the people under them.
@flamedphoenix84 The funny/sad part is I do watch committee on parlvu. I am also a member on Northern Perspective so we have similar taste 😀
Bullied by the most powerful man in Canada and not only is she still standing, but she has the courage and strength to speak out. God bless!
Dictators bully do the not?
And the full support of over half of us.
A few people get stronger when 'wronged' and the adversity, in hindsight, is a blessing in disguise. Look at JP and how they've gone after him since he challenged the 'compelled pronoun' BS from the JT Liberals - meteoric rise to fame and global following.
@@TheFarCenter Only half those who voted
Man? Nah
California woman here. Loved this. I pray and WORK for freedom everywhere in our world. Good luck Canada! 🇺🇸👍❤️
I'll say thank you on behalf of myself and most Canadians. Good luck coming at you living in a state where, at one time, many people were geographically envious
Gavin Newsom is your version of "our" Trudeau. These people have no business occupying the positions that they occupy.
Haven't watched this yet, but plan on it...Cali native...
Wondering what kind of work do you do?
Jordan, thank you for continuing to cover Canadian stories and interviewing Canadians - I truly appreciate it, please keep it up! Celina, you are a badass and I'll be buying your book. Way to stand your ground and have integrity within a world of dishonest politicians.
Hi CUBE EMPTY CARROLL 82nd AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY
Trudeau expected her to “tow the line” and be a good “token”. He chose the wrong person. She is incredibly strong willed and self aware. Well done
she did nothing in parliament. she could have worked within the system. she chose to do otherwise.
"TOE" -"Toe the line" is an idiomatic expression meaning either to conform to a rule or standard, or to stand in formation along a line.
@@comment1ismit would have been against her integrity, something less people have little of theses days
@@comment1ism She did put forward a brain care plan, it was ignored.
My husband ended iisnavy CAREER at 20 years after taking chiefs exam at 15 years in getting 3rd score but being promoted because they " needed to fill it with a Hispanic "
So he came home and told me and I've never been prouder of him.
Retired in 2003 after going in at 17 right after graduation.
This happened around the same time frame. 2016
Not only that, but don't ask don't tell , began showing up in women's blues.. AND subordinate coming in from boot camp being ON PHSYCE MEDS, threatening to sue, emotionally unstable.
I'll never forget him coming home one evening and telling me the OLD NAVY WAS DEAD. and we had to grieve that in order to move on.
Towards the end, the service men also had to submit to Anthrax shots, a series of 6, that changed many mentally.
My husband became a chronic alcoholic.. and long as he showed up so er at 7, never got called to the mat. So he just drank more and more and we had to separate just as we went civilian.
He still a daily part of my life, my best friend, we just can't raise our kids like that, DND then as adults now, appreciate that I did that.
I had him home when he was sober. But it was such a a fight for him . He has never been able to pursue a second career. Riddled with PTSD, anxiety and paranoia.
But only gets 25% disability.
Which we are now working on. Together. He deserves 100%
Only 20 mins in. From UK but this lady brings tears to my eyes because the contrast between her real life experience and hard work and integrity and the likes of Trudeau and other non entities with power in all western democracies is shocking.
God bless her 🙏
She's a racist Narcissist who wants everyone to share her inflated opinion of herself.
Just because Trudeau is a POS it doesn't mean she isn't one herself.
Totally unaware that her own behaviour, esp. insulting and making racist comments about her constituents, is a problem.
Open your eyes this happens in every hierarchical regime, democratic or otherwise across the globe, not just the west
Yeah, it's a weird thing...Nature of the beast..But when enough good people get together and organize...It would be amazing to see her as PM.
@@eleanor8002 Yeah, it happens...But amazingly good things happen too.
Trudeau treated her like a 'mammy'; an indentured servant because Trudeau is a narcissistic racist bigot
😮Sounds like Celina was too smart for Trudeau. She was doing what all MP's should be doing! Taking care of her constituents and her role in the larger umbrella of Canada! A principled person kudos to her!
Not too smart; too virtuous.
Trudeau may have temporarily won that battle but Celina won the ‘war”, so to speak. Congrats to Celina for her bravery under fire, for holding to her integrity. Powerful woman!! Maybe she’ll be Prime Minister one day.
Integrity, values and honour, something the entire liberal party is void.
Ethical
This is what I always thought about Trudeau. He surrounds himself with the dumbest people in the room, so he looks smart. Another backfire by Trudeau!
As an American and seeing the failures of both Canada's and my country's political leaders, I think it is time the people of our 2 great countries stand up and demand accountability.
YES!!!! 🙏
You vote for Trump, and I shall vote for Poilievre.
@@brndxtlol trump is not accountable for he’s mistakes , and not in the same political spectrum as canadian conservatives
At least your have a constitution and rights , Canadians have a flawed document that can be walked over by provincial and federal government , “ not withstanding “
Lol, "accountability" meaning what? They have violated every law under the sun, at some point it must be considered treasonous, but the penalties for these crimes will never be carried out. There is no accountability in the weak willed west anymore, we the people don't have the stomach for it anymore
A woman of substance, integrity, intelligence, bravery! I would vote for her any time of the day! Fascinating interview….an inside glimpse that not all is as they say it is.
What an honour to have someone with such integrity, bravery and character serve in our government.
Did you notice that intellectual Liberal MPs w integrity are fired by Turdeau or quit on their own?!
Refreshing
Trudeau doesn't like those qualities.
Sad she won’t be coming back.
She would have been good for the liberals.
They need more people like this.
I vote conservative, but anywhere this woman serves would be better because of her.
I'm not Canadian but admire & respect someone with this rare character (esp in govt). This world would be in a much better place if all govts had her values. She's def earned my respect!
Celina, it means so much to have you share your story. Please rest assured that many will deeply respect you for your service in an untenable situation.
Thank you.
yes brave lady indeed. Will JT send out his SHERMAN/CLINTON GOONS on her now??
100% So much respect for her.
I was working in an office in the Navy one day and realized everyone in the entire department was well, not white. I was the only white one and I am actually half Filipino! So all of us were the token department. Very strange when I said it out loud to the black commanding officer…who realized I was correct.
Thank you Celina for speaking out! You are a very strong women.
Thankful for people like her!! This is what integrity looks/sounds like.
An absolutely compelling interview. *Thank you* , Celina. You are an absolute treasure of a human being. It takes real grit and bravery to tell such experiences to a friendly face, never mind strangers online. If I may encourage you…it is absolutely *not* your fault that you were demeaned, threatened and bullied. Trudeau is to blame, not you. He bullied you because he is abusive, not because you are weak.
Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for bringing to light such important information. It was heartening to see your kind treatment of a traumatized person.
God bless you both. 🇨🇦❤️
I'm so proud of this woman for standing up for herself and her values. I couldn't be more endeared by her character. What a courageous individual.
Why can’t we have a Prime Minister like this?
Yap
U.S. citizen here. I thank God for courageous men like Jordan Peterson whose courage enables him to interview other courageous people like this amazing lady who doesn’t mince words. Our world needs such leaders! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Trudeau keeps saying “we’re focused on Canadians.” The majority of Canadians want him gone.
Focusing the propaganda, not the listening, or the servicing.
He says we want them to govern aka not leave. Which is just fake
Who else here cringes every time Trudeau speaks for “Canadians?”
How about, “Canadians” want you the hell out and don’t let the door hit you on the ass
Yet you won’t vote his party out of power. So you therefore don’t want him gone….
Make no mistake you are not among the Canadians they are speaking of when they say this!
Thank you Celina. Now all of Canada knows what Trudeau thinks of and how he will treat anyone who disagrees with him.
All those clapping and nodding seals that sit behind Trudeau 🎉in parliament are real testament to the kind of person who continues to participate in such a destructive and mendacious leadership. Lap dogs and do nothings.
Exactly. Anyone that challenges or disagrees with him.
It's hard to believe most Canadians never saw through Trudeau's charade of leadership.
Trudeau is a disgusting human being he needs to be voted out asap...
I think Canadians intuitively knew what he is like. We have at some point in our lives crossed paths with someone just like him. FJT
This is just one more in a long line of cruel scandals. But I'm glad another person has had their eyes opened.
Poised, eloquent, articulate and principled. This is the type of woman that young girls should learn from and emulate.
Amazing interview.
And she’s no victim nor does she want anyone to think of her that way. For some strange reason these young girls play that role like a fiddle and it baffles me. They think it’s strong to be a victim. Something happened
This is why Canadians (for the most part) are sick of this lying government.
It is a globalist regime.... Not a government
I'd love a lying government. That's to be expected. We have a psychotic government.
Why do those Canadians, who are sick & tired of this Monster, keep voting him in every election. Those who voted NDP or Liberal, this is on YOU!
@user-kk3fy7hn9e rigged elections via china didn't you know?
@@user-kk3fy7hn9e Canada has a problem with information digestion, like the USA, but unlike America where people seem to dig their heels in and support one side over the other, Canadians tune out altogether, and vote for whoever says the nicest thing at the right time. It's pathetic but it's changing slowly.
You're a courageous woman, Celina
Not even a human
@@appleratpipe "Not even. A human!" might come across better ;)
She’s just here to sell a book
@@zorkin2013 exactly, not a peep until now, 10 years later.
Absolutely, that's abuse 💯 terrible!
My heart goes out to her. What an intelligent, and brave woman she is. Always stand tall as you are a powerful woman who inspires many women. I do believe! You seem like a very down to earth person as well, and I bet you are an excellent mother also. Geez what an impressive journey that's brought you far! Just wonderful, and you deserve so very much happiness in all that you do!
Kudos to you. Sorry that I'm not educated enough to have better words to express.
I believe she needed to stand up to him. For herself, and her mental health. Which is a whole lot more important than what he could ever think. It's actually beyond over his head! As for saying anything to him is worthless because he doesn't care about anybody but himself. (Forgive me Lord)
There's many like him in this world unfortunately.
I've said you, and she because I don't know if she'd ever read the comments here or not.
So good of you Jordan to have her speak out on your channel. You yourself are a wonderful, compassionate man!
May God bless you, and yours!
All the very best always!!
Jeeeeez I like this woman. She has integrity, she is a strong individual.
She sat for 3 1/2 years just collecting a paycheck not doing anything she definitely was not treated correctly, but I cannot fathom how it took her that long to find yourself something to do
And all of the people with integrity were eventually weeded out, one way or another.
Just bc Trudeau lacks integrity, doesn't mean that clashing with him makes her virtuous.
She's a racist narcissist.
Spoken like a true white man. Your an... . You didn't listen. When your in the realms the sell you hope that you will get an opportunity. She stood as long as possible before making a decision you... Her paycheck was nothing compared to her business . Didn't you listen no pension.... Nothing.
I as a Canadian am ashamed by this situation,you go woman you are great!
Canada is very lucky to have a woman with so much to give, so intelligent and with such introspection. Wow ! it's great that Mr. Peterson has given us a chance to hear and become acquainted with this admirable Lady. In my book they both do Canada proud !
Narcissists don’t do well with people that have strong ethics and morals
OUR COUNTRY NEEDS TO SEE THIS
CBC will be right on this...or maybe not.
I have so much admiration for both Dr. Peterson and Celina.
wow. you too find homosexuality fascinating. what is so interesting about butt fu**ers?
That’s how Narcissists work, destroying your confidence and self worth.
See any resemblance of Trudeau to Gavin Newsome?
some people are garbage
Woah, you got an ex-Liberal MP to come onto your podcast?! Kudos to Celina for coming on.
There's actually plenty of these people.... you can't join a leftist dictatorship without being abused and used. Most of them dont talk publicly...
Jesus, she's so intelligent and accomplished. What a shame that she had to leave government. What a shame that I only know her for supporting DEI.
Yes. She’d be great working with a real leader, perhaps on the conservative front
@@eugenefdscodesWell, at least she learned - the hard way, that DEI isn’t what it appears to be on the political side
@@eugenefdscodes Supporting DEI is a reason in itself to disqualify her from public office.
This woman is a champion for standing up for truth and not accepting the lies and hypocrisy being dished to the public. Another reason she may have also been affected emotionally to her core from this experience is the deep disillusionment that comes when a previous altruistic faith and preconceived idea that the people placed in positions of power and the system itself is full of rightly motivated, good and well intentioned individuals who have the best interest of others at heart and then find out it's not true. It's a hard reality shift when you find yourself swimming for your life in a shark tank and you're the prey. Absolutely heartbreaking but once you get back on your feet, extremely motivating to stand up for those who are voiceless and invisible. I hear you both, loud and clear. Thanks for your bravery, passionate heart, intelligence and non compromise. We need many more like you to uncover the darkness so we can heal in the Light.
This comment should have a thousand likes!!
if women want to be treated equally then they will have to earn it
Would be interested if she is a friend of our (USA) Dr. Ben Carson. God bless you, beautiful soul.
This interview is very revealing as to the character and integrity of the mp's who stayed on and also reveals much about the PM himself.
Excellent podcast. She is a Canadian hero that we need to speak out right now. Bravo!
She’s not a hero. She’s just jaded and wants to write a book.
She has a story arch where she stopped boot licking, so in that way she’s a “hero.”
Jordan B. Peterson is a Hero.
With time, depending on what she does, she may become a hero.
@@comment1ism Ethical people will not work within a corrupt system. An ethical person would know that.
@@comment1ism
Not a hero, a racist narcissist. Grifter, too.
I’m coming to this interview a month late, but I’m extremely grateful to Prof. Peterson and Ms. Caesar-Chavannes for this wonderfully enlightening conversation.
Ms. Caesar-Chavannes is a tremendously admirable individual. The brief summary of her life story and her accomplishments should be an inspiration to every Canadian.
Equally as admirable was her willingness to forgo additional personal and economic gain by divesting from her business to serve her community of Whitby as a federal MP.
However, what’s most impressive was her steadfastness in refusing to be used as a puppet by Prime Minister Trudeau and his cabinet of “yes” men and women. In spite of the mental gymnastic required to seek an understanding of her predicament, she understood her worth and chose to face down the giant in the room. I have the utmost respect for her and think that Canada has lost what could have been a significant force in parliament.
My hope is that Ms. Caesar-Chavannes finds her way back to politics and considers aligning herself and her values with Mr. Pierre Poilievre and the federal Conservative party as they stand the greatest chance of deposing the small “E” emperor that is Trudeau.
As a proud Canadian, I would gladly vote for her. 🇨🇦
Celina, you are a very courageous and strong woman. After listening to your story, I have to say that I deeply respect your conviction and ethics. You are to be applauded 😊
Hello 👋 Sharon.
I hope you having enough fun this year
❤
@@brandonjahve8008b boy brenden rizz
Everyone in Canada should watch this! She is Brilliant! A strong, Honest person. This interview shows the real Trudeau and his severe degree of narcissism.
lockHIMup!
@ Because she’s a Lib, lol. Ya you’re right.
@@comment1ism I find it difficult to watch liberal mps talk about how much they love the liberal party and then are surprised by it's policies. Many of which they vote to support only to be surprised that it doesn't work out like they want.
@@kimtouesnard1766 how about WAS
What a principled woman. I too have sabotaged my career for honesty. I remember the moments very clearly, you are on a prescipit within seconds. The feeling of being frozen out was lonely but I knew I had done nothing wrong. Once I got my head around, my back strengthened and my shoulders broadened. I bounced back better with pride.
This was a phenomenal interview.
You have no idea what you have done. Thank you. I felt like I was going in circles and thinking their is something wrong with me and their isnt. Ive cried, sleepless nights, night terrors, you name it.
A black girl born and raised in Canada has gotten harder as I have gotten older.
Thank you for providing this amazing women on your platform to speak her truth.
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University.
That the position she has now isn’t it?
@@jeffspicolli593 Maybe she didn't think of DEI in terms of race and gender and so one but on poverty, education and so on. Maybe. It seems to be what transpired in her interview.
@@nilsbrown7996 I believe so.
@@flonoiisana4647 Maxime Bernier after a number of run ins with her said of Caesar-Chavannes "she thinks 'the world revolves around (her) skin colour." Bernier was reacting to a Globe and Mail article in which the author says Liberal MP Celina Caesar-Chavannes 'focuses less on policy and more on personal matters'
As an opportunist she rode the coattails of Ministers Wilson -Raybould and Philpott out of government despite the issues of these senior Cabinet Ministers being entirely unrelated to hers.
I detest Trudeau but in the case of dealing with this difficult woman I believe Trudeau to be the victim.
So sorry that Celina Caesar Chavannes and Jody Wilson Raybould had to deal with this kind of behaviour from our prime minister. He is a narcissist. You were being gaslighted. Hard to come to terms with what was really going on. Bravo for speaking up ❤
Why is he still here making our lives hell?
The media does NOT care THEY ARE PROTECTING TRUDEAU and they won’t bite the hand that feeds them
As a European, I appreciate so much listen to Jordan Peterson and this video inviting this host was as always so valuable. This is, today, the way to undestand the world because the mainstream media seems to not wanted do this type of work anymore. Explaining and teaching people, that's what information is. Thank you
Thank you for this. The truth has to surface. The courage in Jody Wilson-Raybould and Celina Caesar-Chavannes is beyond
measure. This is the integrity we need to finally bring this wonderful country to all that we believe in as Canadians.
Massive respect to Celina. I can't imagine how many people she had telling her not to do this. This is important and I applaud her.
Dr. Peterson that was a great interview with Celina Caesar-Chavannes. I loved how you stopped at several parts to say " lets break this down " for a better sense of digging in deeper and Celina agreeing and giggling too, so cute. A lot has come out in to the open here and I agree Canadians need to here this, where are the media stations on this? Keep up with these great interviews and thank you for this one. Celina I wish you all the best, with prosperity and health in your future.
Your Question , where was/is the media ? The same place as the us Lame Steam Media , bought & paid for !
This LADY, in my opinion, is truly impressive. Keep your head up and stay true to yourself. As I said truly IMPRESSIVE.
Integrity, honesty, and empathy are rare character traits in all levels of government these days. And the men & women that possess these necessary characteristics in order to represent us… get run out or disenfranchised… or leave due to the gaslighting. Celina, thank you for your service.
Thank you Jordan and Celina for this discussion! Canadians need to walk away from political apathy!
I really admire this woman. She has done a huge service to Canadians for doing this interview, and I’m sure it wasn’t easy. She has a lot of integrity, and I know that feeling of hopelessness in a narcissistic relationship she was alluding to… there is indeed so much cognitive dissonance and it’s so eroding to a persons esteem and sanity. I’m really proud of her for speaking to you, Jordan. And this was a very good interview, thank you.
Thank you!
Canada would be in a much better place if she was Prime-minister
Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a name to be proud of. You are a great Canadian.
Absolutely eye opening interview. Thank you Dr. Peterson for having Celina on your show. Canada under Trudeau has been going downhill for a long time.
A lesser person may have capitalized on their "role" as token minority showpiece. Celina clearly was so much more capable than what Trudeau picked her for. And THIS is precisely the evil side of DEI...that competent people are treated like token identifiers rather than high functioning members of a team - regardless of gender, ethnicity etc!
It's interesting that Caesar-Chavannes was surprised to find out she was a "diversity hire" when her previous employment in 2001 was as the new Senior Advisor, Equity, Diversity, and Inclusivity (EDI) Initiatives in the Faculty of Health Sciences at Queens University where she promoted diversity hiring.
1000% well said. DEI contradicts Martin Luther King's speech - judging people by the colour of their skin rather than by the content of their character. Well, I'm beyond IMPRESSED by Celina's character.
When Celina Caezar-Chavannes was first elected, she was so much more qualified and accomplished than Justin Trudeau has ever been throughout his petty life.
I'm surprised she is an advocate for DEI after her experience.
So true
I am not Canadian. In fact, I am from Belarus and I live in Poland. I know about Trudeau and his politics because I watch Jordan Peterson. BUT because of the people like Celina I am not yet ready to give up my hope for the world! Thank you!
The Poland prime minister is awesome. Wish we had a leader like him here in Australia!
@@KeepUpTV90 So do I we need his type in UK - he shoots from the hip and puts his foot down over the immigration and migrants problem.
We have 2 million poles here running businesses I wonder will they all go back to Poland now they are being cared for.... By a man of substance.
Peace out 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🍀
I have felt contempt about Trudeau for a while now from his lack of integrity but this interview proves what I was thinking and more. He sounds like a textbook narcissist and no one would want to work with a person like that. I feel sorry for what Celina went through but she is a very strong woman and hope she continues with her successes in life. Very powerful woman!Don’t let this experience bring you down at all. He is the monster.
She is bad ass for speaking up . Thank you Celina .
Jordan, thank you for giving Celina a voice! Celina thank you for your courage and strength in telling your story. To the audience like & share, share, share this is very important!
Thank-you Celina Caesar-Chavannes for sharing your story - took a lot of fortitude.
I cannot tell you how immensely I admire you, Celina Caesar-Chavannes. You are not only brilliant but beyond brave for what you survived and for your ability to re-emerge, clad in the self-knowledge of who you truly are. And to have done so under a pressure I can't imagine. I was so moved and actually felt understood by your conversation. I am an arts teacher who was persecuted at a wickedly woke school and I kept my head down and tried to ignore the insanity alighting around me. I thought if I could work harder and better, be more inventive and dedicated, I could stay to my principles and just teach children. Towards the end of my time (before I was forced to resign), I spoke up and was roundly slapped about with illogical retorts.I was ashamed, also betrayed by the people who said they wanted what was best for children but couldn't see the damage they continued to hash upon them. Then one day my best friend said, 'you haven't done anything wrong.' It was so simple and powerful. I hadn't. You didn't. I am stand and applaud you for telling of your experience. Thank you for calling out the racism of the left. Thank you for understanding the magnificence of you in the face of ignorance and malice. I've spent the last few months telling anyone who showed interest in talking about education in the U.S. now about what is actually happening. So many people think 'oh, no, it's not that bad.' It's actually terrifying worse than people can imagine. And people who do not believe evil exists, cannot begin to believe what lies they are being told and what enduring harm is being foisted onto children in public schools.
Celina IS woke. Racist woke, only in her world racism vs. whites is ok.
The podcast medium has literally saved Western society. Long form transparent conversations about current and important issues are poised to become the dominant form of media. Celina, you’re loved and appreciated. You’ll do great things for Canada! Jiu-jitsu and firearms training may be great practical outlets for you. All the best 🙏
This conversation needs to be seen much more than 8M.
I wish all Canadians and Americans would watch Dr. P's interviews. It would really open their minds to what is going on.
i think most of them have. lol
I second this! 👍
I agree, Dr. Phil's the man.
Unfortunately too many university graduates have been indoctrinated into believing that Dr P is troublesome, deceitful, dangerous, untrustworthy, so on. I have an American Social Worker friend who cautioned me about Dr P because she had had a psychology instructor who had discouraged the students reading anything written by him. He’s obviously shaken some chains.
He's way too dangerous! Helping people think critically is a borderline hate crime in Canada.
How has this story never been told publicly?! Our media is failing us.
The media is not a reliable source of information on ANY issue or topic. Not TV, radio or print. Propaganda only. Paid shills.
@brentchislett7865 because unfortunately our media is being bought out by Trudeau
Failed, sold out and evil
That is what happens when media companies are beholden to government subsidies & grants to stay in business.
@@robk3005. I understand you are directing your comment at CBC but there are other outlets not receiving Gov subsidies but they are Corporate and have their Masters too. I think Jordan Peterson has only his conscience to answer to and we’ve all come to the right place to be informed truthfully
What an incredible individual. Thankyou for this amazing interview.
Celina- some of your story almost brought me to tears. I loved this interview and the follow up on Daily Wire. You are so smart and honest. I would be so happy if liberals here in the U.S. would be willing to have dialogs like this with us conservatives instead of the name calling. I find you personally compelling and lovely. May God watch over you, bless you, and grant you peace.
100% agree! I don’t subscribe to Daily Wire but this interview has me enquiring further, I need to watch the entire interview. And I was welling up too.
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I wish they could have a conversation without blowing up also. Here in Canada most of the left are the same no matter what country they live in. Don’t let this interview fool you about them here.
I come across a lot of people who had lousy grades, “got lost” for a few years, and then really blossomed. Don’t quit.
Thank you Celina for your honesty. I have all respect for you and your decision to leave that office. Wow!! Don't ever change!!!❤
I remember this lady being in the media a few years ago and not really thinking much of her, given what the Liberal party has been doing to Canada since 2015... The fact that she appears on Dr. Petersons podcast alone goes a long way to redeeming her in my eyes. Kudos!
Yes I seem to remember her too, pushing quite hard on the intersectional grift, if I remember correctly. .. something about a Conservative member should keep his white male mouth shut about some sacred cow or other. I am extremely sceptical of her sincerity, but if the good doctor is willing to give her the time, it's probably worth a listen. She must have had one heck of a "road to Damascus" moment to end up here!
It's unfortunate he has assisted in her rehabilitation as she is a unapologetic wokester.
@@jeffspicolli593still people need to know. Even if she is less than stellar
She hardly trusts her husband of 17 years… wow.
@@jeffspicolli593"wokster" ...all these tropes. Why not say the word you REALLY want to say? 🙄
Celina, you give me hope! I was beginning to believe that Canadians with your level of integrity, intelligence and work ethic were all compromised. Thank you for your service to Canada and thank you for sharing a truth about the management of Canada that many of us suspected but could not prove. Warm regards from a troubled Canadian.
Every Canadian of African Caribbean decent who are considering voting Liberal needs to hear this conversation. This explains what we saw on Trudeau's 50/50 cabinet.
It's refreshing to see even Liberals opening their eyes and speaking up for what is best for Canadians not Trudeau!!
I pray for the Canadians!
Good for you, Celina. It's brave to speak up about injustice.
"Self-awareness is a heck of a thing." I'd very much like this woman as a friend.
Lack of self awareness is a killer, I know.
A person of integrity... Makes you wonder how the cabinet ministers stay on?
Well done -- this woman is a TRUE Canadian hero
Lol. Look for my post, you're missing lots.
Another Liberal who had to learn the hard way. Very important that she came forward too
Why a Canadian hero, she just got upset because they didn't gave her more attention
Do you even know what the word "hero" stands for???? Don't dilute the meaning of that very important word.
@@borat9108 Jordan is closer to a Hero than this woman who has wasted our money and probably profited.
Awesome Celina! Thanks JP for introducing me to her story.
I just wanted to thank you both for this interview. You both are A-MAZING human beings!!! My heart goes out to ALL those in similar situations and experiences. I find what is said here, powerful. People like you both are my heroes. Thanks for the share! Much love!
Bless you Dr. Peterson.
I'm not sure why any thinking person would give heed to the imperfect opinions of some ignorant psychology professor. There are a handful of EXTREMELY wise sages currently on this planet who can logically and completely answer practically any question that an intelligent soul is likely to ask regarding morals and ethics.
The fact that Jordan supports men buggering each other (by which I mean, that he supports homosexuality and other criminal activities, such as the unnecessary consumption of poor innocent animals) is MORE than sufficient proof that he is not as religious as he claims, and that any decent, holy person ought to shun his inane teachings and flee into the loving arms of a teacher of Truth.
Furthermore, in a recent interview on Benjamin Shapiro's UA-cam channel, he admitted that his wife figuratively (and I'm sure also LITERALLY) wears the pants in his household. 👖
I would be more than pleased to provide you with links to the UA-cam channels of a few enlightened beings who will quickly set you on the path to perfection, as opposed to the DELUDED moral subjectivism professed by "Doctor" Peterson (pun not intended).
Please find below a couple of such ENLIGHTENED masters to which I referred above:
Professor Alan Watts
(now deceased, so he doesn't have his own UA-cam channel - just search for his videos on numerous extant channels)
Swami Sarvapriyananda
( ua-cam.com/users/vedantany1894
or search for "Vivekananda Samiti")
Jagadguru Svāmī Vegānanda
( www.youtube.com/@TheWorldTeacher )
That may be the best interview yet, and that is saying something. What a tremendously important conversation. Shame on our media for not exploring this story ( these stories) further.
Celina, I applaud you! What guts it must have taken to stand up to that bully. You inspire me to be a better man. As a Canadian, I thank you and I hope you might consider running for the conservatives in the next election. You could make a huge difference in your field of expertise that Trudeau ignored. Give Pierre a chance.
I love hearing her speak. Strong, confident, not afraid to show her vulnerabilities, she is exactly the kind of Parliamentarian we need in the HoC. God bless her.
I could listen to her all day. She is such an engaging speaker.
Thank you❤
Wow, what an incredible interview. Shout out Celina, you’re a beacon of integrity, wits, and honesty.
Incredible insights as well to what an egotistical, arrogant tyrant Trudeau is. This is a must watch for Canadians!
I've always been interested in interviews by Dr. Peterson. I really focused on this one. I am even more impressed with how he approaches the conversation. And when he states the clinical description of things from his profession it only confirms his legitimate care and interest for his guests. I can see his true intent to not force an agenda and let a conversation happen naturally. Truly amazing! One of the best insights into Canadian politics in a long time!!
Thank you Celina, it takes a strong person to speak out. I'm so ashamed in our Liberal gov since Trudeau came into office. It just shows that what everyone has been saying about him is true. You should run again, but in a party that would value and use your skills set that you bring to the table.
Thank you, Celina, for your courage to share your experience publicly. And - for being someone within government to have held yourself and your service with such integrity, even within such intimidating and belittling conditions. It’s heartening to witness your character. Much respect. And thank you Dr Peterson for amplifying the reach of her testimony. It’s helpful and further vindicating to understand more deeply what kind of PM we currently have. Grateful to walk amongst you both.
You seem like a very upstanding woman, Celine. Thank you for telling Canadians and THE WORLD what it is we are dealing with here in Canada 🇨🇦. Your problem was that you are capable and have integrity. OUR DEAR LEADER did not recognize that in you, and thought YOU should be GRATEFUL to Him for GIVING you a position!!! Perhaps many women would be grateful and just go along to get along, and enjoy the perks. The look of CONTEMPT He had for you was because you did not recognize HIS BENEVOLENCE toward you. He saw you as someone very UNGRATEFUL for being invited on to His gravy train and REJECTING HIS offer. I suppose He also recognized on some level that HE did not measure up to YOUR INTEGRITY - and again on some level, He felt bad.
I would put it like this: Whoever had a shred of decency in Trudeau's Liberal party ....left in the first term. Thank you Celina for sharing your experience with us.
Anyone who was a threat to Trudeau's facade of virtue has been ruthlessly sidelined and excluded from the spotlight in this government. They had a real life astronaut, an actual rocket scientist, in cabinet, and did the same thing to him as they (they being Butts and Telford) did to this woman. Great leaders make the most of talented people around them. Poor leaders are threatened by talented people, because poor leaders see competence as a threat to their position.
💯 percent. The ONLY reason those MPs are turning on him now is because he's hurting their election chances. Scandals, blackface, ethical breachs, division, financial illiteracy, no problem, just don't hurt my election chances.
I believe her and can relate with her 100%. I have felt the same way and even the way you’re treated and how it messes with your head, your psychological health and the amount of time and effort that takes for you to recover from it! Good for her for speaking up ❤ I just hope that one day I will publicly tell my story 🥹
Thank you Celina for your service and for coming forward and telling your story.
Thanks for sharing Celina. May your actions inspire the rest of those cowards in our disastrous house of parliament to step up by stepping down or walking across the floor. Finally working for Canadians instead of their corrupt leaders/handlers.
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What a phenomenal politician. Well spoken, incredible ethics, intelligent, what a rare human being.
Thrilled to see this Canadian content! Jordan Canada NEEDS your assistance through these dark days.
Celina, you are way stronger than you give yourself credit for. You stand brave and courageous. Way to go girl, your children have a GREAT MOTHER and a GREAT LADY !!!
Thank you❤
Please run for office with the CPC.
I wish this woman would stay in politics. We need people like her. I would hv voted for her as leader
of the CPC. Imagine where Canada would be today if all MP’s had her intelligence and integrity. There would be NO WEF in our Cabinet!
Vulnerability, strength, courage and integrity. The power of clarity and simplicity. Thank you both!
Wow. This woman has character. Integrity.
Jordan Peterson’s affirmation (starting at 1:23:00) of her response to Trudeau’s apology had to be emotionally healing for her. He brilliantly broke down why she felt the way she did and affirmed her response and emotions to the stressful situation.
Self doubt is something we all have to work through in situations of abuse. We can wonder if our response is valid or if we are part of the problem.
Peterson has a unique ability to place himself in the circumstances of someone else and relate to them in a way that makes them feel heard.
he was a clinician for years
@@steelesmith1379not all clinicians can do that. Still worth mentioning.
Nobody knew Justin Trudeau better than his ex wife. If you are married for any length of time you know your spouse.Or ought to know your spouse. Those who voted for this prick. This phoney. This arrogance.. are blind and deaf. When Sophie had enough of this asshole that said volumes to anyone who still was infatuated with the acting. Yet here we are we are today with a sizeable population still in love with Justin Trudeau.That to me is the saddest aspect of Canadian society. Willful ignorance.
@@Bobcagon he’s handsome and those castro genes are powerful lol.
@@Bobcagonif I could give this comment 1000 likes I would. 👏👏👏👏👏
Celina you are smart in focusing in your strength. The university requires many unnecessary classes that brought your GPA down.
Thank you Dr Peterson for providing information that they can not shut you up.
What a great guest Jordan
Based on how she presented in this interview, Celina is a brilliant person. If her abilities were effectively capitalised on she would have been brilliant at representing Canadians. Her honesty, pragmatism, analytical nature and sense of justice is very aligned with Jordan so I’m not surprised she was up for being on his podcast.
she’s smart. she started to doubt that and her world unraveled.
Unfortunately there is no way she could have shone in a Trudeau cabinet. That orginazion is based on 90% optics, 5% subterfuge, and 5% racketeering. She was hampered from the start. Wish she would run again, for the conservatives this time.
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@@whiskybrush3219she would be a definite asset to the conservative party!
No room for any of that in the truedolt government!