Young Earth. Juvenile Science. (feat Trevor Valle) - (Ken) Ham & AiG News
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2020
- Ken Ham and his team have a weekly "news" show, reacting to the news stories of the day from a Christian young-earth creation perspective from the Answers in Genesis staff at his Creation Museum.
Trevor Valle and I join Avery, Bodie, and Gabriella as they discuss - Scientists discover human fossils; Small dino only a kid; Eighty-Five Reports of Biological Remnants in Fossils and more during Answers News, broadcast live from the Creation Museum.
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Thanks for having me on the show, Paul! And yes, my audio sucks. I was on the only shitty headset I own. I'm a paleontologist, not an audio engineer. Want better audio? Buy me a mic. www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/35WYN6NZ6H08D?ref_=wl_share
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You're amazing, Trevor. You can also do better than the Yeti microphone for less cost.
Trevor, I really enjoyed this episode with you, it makes me smile knowing that i'm not the only one that talks like drunken sailors on shore leave lol. ;)
I like your style and hope to see more of your neon bearded face around here. Thanks for debunking AiG's tired strawmen and "were you there" arguments.
your launguage is also a disgrace
"When your main tool is a life-sized ark, every problem is going to look like a flood"
I love that line
should become the official slogan of Ham and AiG
@@RawbeardX Too honest for Ham.
"When your main tool is a life size ark, every problem is gonna look like a flood."
- Paulogia
And here was me thinking Bodie was Ken favourite tool. Damn, that felt like kicking a puppy.
Okay you need Trevor on more. He's a delight.
I just can’t stand his fake laugh. It’s so forced
@@salvagemonster3612 lol I like it! It is such a smart ass move.
Agreed - please have Trevor on again!
And “fake” laugh? Nah, he’s just seriously cracking up.
"You only talk about it after we fucking find it!" Such a true and powerful statement, Trevor is awesome :)
I’m another reality, Matt Dillahunty became a paleontologist, discovered a dimensional portal, and traveled here to continue the fight against ignorance.
Adrianna Lockhart lol!
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"If your primary tool is a life sized ark, every problem looks like a flood." F-ing brilliant Paul. I love it.
Please... give us the 3hour rant from Trevor ! his passion is infectious, and knowledge is enormous ! (am I showing my "knowledge envy?")
knowledge envy is a good thing, makes you want to learn.
I'm down.
I've seen the Rogan interview couple times... love the rant ! Trevor - thanks for the passion brother - and next time don't be shy about your point of view (sarcasm intended)
AIG... list big sciency words, talk about them incorrectly, list more big sciency words... "therefore Jesus, and send us money."
When the AiG crew talked about how scientists first said the soft tissue was contamination as if the scientists were running out of explanations, I was more reminded of creationists who started out denying evolution altogether and have since had to latch onto an imagined divide between micro and macro evolution because we've seen change over time happen, so they couldn't maintain their original view anymore.
Also: Trevor's brilliant! Love him.
That theme of the creationists gradually evolving to incorporate scads of actual science, from speciation to plate tectonics (they go steroid though, too much to fast on both) comes up a lot in the new "The Rocks Were There" book Jackson Wheat and I have finished vol 1 of, and I'm completing the index for now, for a release hopefully in next few weeks.
@@jamesdownard1510 Oooh, the rocks were there as a reply to the old "were you there" shtick they sometimes try to pull? I like it.
@@Tairneanach Exactly. The full title is "The Rocks Were There:
Straight Science Answers
to bent Creationist questions"
5:54
We ought to have the balls to say this more often......'cause it needs to be said so bluntly.
Louis Gedo 😆 very true
Trevor Valle is a national treasure. A hero of science and reason
Religion is based on authority. Whoever has the most authority is right. Period.
That is why apologists so commonly try to discredit darwin. They see him as an authority and by discrediting him they discredit his theory (at least in their mind).
We discredit him because we can and because evolution never happened. If the hypothesis was so strong atheists wouldn't be trying so hard to keep intelligent design away
@S Gloobal
We have literally millions of pieces of evidence for evolution. Got any for "intelligent design"? Please note, I said EVIDENCE, not argument.
We fight against having lies taught to impressionable children. That's what responsible adults do. I'm sorry your education failed you in that respect.
@@sgloobal4230 First it should be pointed out that evolution is long past the state of a hypothesis, it's a theory. I know apologists seldom understand the difference, but nether the less it should be pointed out.
Furthermore, intelligent design is a deeply flawed hypothesis. How about you work out the flaws in your hypothesis and than we'll take another look at it.
@@annk.8750 Give me one piece of empirical evidence for evolution. Just one
@@KingQwertzlbrmpf Really? This will help you understand
www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
What an awesome episode. You should have Trevor on for every Ham & AIG episode where they get anywhere near the fossil record. Listeningto Trevor’s passion and expertise and ability to see 60 seconds into the future on what they would say next were fantastic!!
I remember Trevor Valle from the Joe Rogan Pod Cast. Once of my favorite guest on the Joe Rogan show.
I've known several paleontologists and loads of archaeologists. I've rarely seen them wearing suits, unless they have to give a lecture. These are outdoor people. Historically, they have always been scruffy. Most of the older generation dressed like Yukon prospectors or cowboys. Trevor's contemporary mutation seems pretty logical.
Scruffy and foul-mouthed.
I had the chance to visit the La Brea pits a few years ago.. .I was absolutely fascinated by the museum there. I watched a couple of the staff working on things behind the glass ..I was there for literally 30+, watching one lady sorting microscopic bits under a stereoscope, and another working on cleaning the goo from a tiny little skull (the note card said it was a gray fox urocyon cinereoargenteus...) The tech was carefully scraping gunk from between the teeth, and after he noticed i'd watched intently, he looked up, grinned and turned it around to show me what he'd been trying to prise loose. it looked a stick. I mouthed "a bone?" he grined, shrugged and mouthed back "think so!"
My wife came over after awhile and said "you know they let volunteers work on this stuff too..." I told her sadly, "yeah but a 2500 mile commute just isn't very feasible..." she laughed and said "if we lived close enough, i'd never see you; you'd always be here..." we both laughed cuz we knew she was right.....
Sadly, here in Southern WV, we don't have anything similar to that sort of set up...so i am forced to be a dedicated hobbyist... :P
I listened to a Ted Talk where the guy said he took his child to the museum and the kid asked where are the baby dinosaurs. That's what inspired him to relook at the bones to determine whether it had the characteristics of a growing youth Dino and adults. Super interesting!
Vegan Atheist- Coral wow! I’m going to have to watch that - thanks for telling us about it.
@@DocBree13
Jack Horner: Shape-shifting dinosaurs
ua-cam.com/video/kQa11RMCeSI/v-deo.html
The same video but it covers the subject.
Ethelred Hardrede
Trevor expresses the rage I always feel inside listening to creationists. Maybe it's the first hand experience - I'm a geologist and been working with Ar-Ar dating for a while, so every time creationists bring up (carbon) dating and misrepresent it, my bloodpressure shoots through the roof, lol.
Greatly enjoyed Trevor's input in this video. Would love to see him as a guest on your channel more often! :)
Some people have no idea how difficult doing good science is. My respect goes to guys like Trevor who actually put in the work.
I was starting to wonder if Ham and AIG news was over, as this is the first time we have heard from them since the new year.
Sadly, Ken just isn't on very often any more and I prefer to cover the episodes where he's there personally.
They were still recovering from making all that fudge.
@@Paulogia Isn't Ken usually off begging for money, seeing how they all on a five day week at the Ark and Musuem, with them closed Sunday and Monday?
@@Paulogia no worries. You still put out lots of good content. I just thought that AIG had finally suffered enough embarrassment to quit. Although you saying "Ken" confused me for a minute lol. That is my name, please don't rub it in.
I remember when YECs said that dinosaurs were just big lizards. Unfortunately for me. Luckily, I've come a long way since then
Paul, do you remember that? Now they say, "We never said that!"
Pretty sure scientists once thought dinosaurs were giant lizards, which is why they named them "dino saurs" ("terrible lizards").
If they're actually giant flightless birds (specifically the flightless ones since the flying dinosaurs are now considered not dinosaurs but rather separate), maybe dinosaurs should be called "dinoratites"?
@@autobotstarscream765 It could be that scientists once thought dinosaurs were only large lizards; IDK. My point is that, when I went to both my Christian schools, the YECs were STILL teaching that, even though scientists had long abandoned that proposition. That was as recent as the 1980s ans 1990s.
Kent Hovind still says that, at least every third or fourth lecture. He knows practically nothing of palaeontology and insinuates that he is a dinosaur expert.
@@JovanDacic He even calls himself Dr. Dino, and apparently has the same level of accreditation as Dr. Mario and Dr. Robotnik.
One of the best shows ever Paul !!
Thank you for your extremely hard work .. terrific guest !
I get why so many genius level people drink. I'm spectacularly average and I'm almost as frustrated as Trevor listening to these buffoons.
"I get it. I get you're stuck in a worldview. I'm a Maple Leafs fan". Holy crap that's hilarious.
Sue is amazing!!! And she's Harry Dresden's favorite Zombie T-Rex Mount! :)
The thing I love about guests on this channel is they get so mad at AiG they start laughing. I think that is the best kind of mad. That probably says something about atheist about how good natured we are....and heavy drinkers. Bathtub of rum...I am stealing this
I have a good friend who, if you met him on the street, you would thing he was a homless person. In reality, he is a world famos geophysicist who does computational fluid dynamics with plate tectonics. He also looks to be more than 6000 years old😈 And, like you good sir Trevor, he loves to use the all-purpose word f**k😈
So, apprearances can be deceiving😈
Well said!
As a Geologist myself, I can tell you from first hand experience, that our field has a high percentage of people looking like 18th century trappers who live in the woods, lol.
@@RedDeadSakharine The senior geologist at the college I got my degree at made Boris Johnson's hair look well managed.
There’s a lot of science/engineer/smart people in my family and there is a positive relation between that kind of smarts and some form of eccentricity
@@jojol.2630 Well once you reach a certain level in a scientific field, it gives you a free pass to be as eccentric as you want
Thank you for explaining the soft tissue thing!
Trevor gets extra points for the Cthulhu jersey on Joe Rogan.
There you are! I've been having Paulogia withdrawals
This guy needs to have his own You Tube channel. He's very entertaining and educational at the same time.
Holy Shit, Trevor is a delight. What a genuine, awesome person. That was all real from what I can tell, just a guy with an awesome job and people misrepresenting the fuck out of it so he stepped in to set the record straight. You HAVE to make a video out of the paper he recommended, do bring him back for that video if you can (provided you can get him to tone it down a notch, I believe that video would be most useful to people who are still believers and those folks tend to have a problem with the swearing) Then again if he is overrehearsed or something it might kill the appeal of having him on.
Still one of my favorite episodes for sure. Dinosaurs have been fascinating to me for a long while and I loved the excitement and seemingly personal connection he had with not only the species but individuals like Sue and Thomas.
Amazing video. Thanks Paul and thank you Trevor!
I'd love a 3 hour rant from Trevor. Very entertaining and knowledgable !
"Oh god, you went there" Paul lives there.
Mary Schweitzer is a researcher at my university. It’s always good to know as a young scientist that you are surrounded by a community of amazing scientists, especially ones that set strong examples of rationality in these conflicts.
And You, Trevor are a COMPLETE BADASS
Thank you kindly
Always nice to watch one of your new episodes when I'm getting ready for work.
It was completely obvious to me that Trevor is a field paleontologist. When you spend a lot of time in the dirt, often away from civilization, often living with your co-workers 24/7, your tolerance for bullshit gets stripped away very quickly. I like him and his style. Paul, have him back often! You and your other guests on Ham and AIGs are often far too nice to those assholes. It was super refreshing to have him strip away all the AIG creationist nonsense with actual, first-hand evidence. If you can figure out a way to have Trevor and Steve Baumann on the same show, I'd never stop replaying that episode!
I'm going to binge-read his Twitter now!
See, I knew he was a field guy long before he told us that. Field paleontologists and archaeologists routinely make sailors blush.
I thought this was rad and I loved the length bring Trevor on more
I concur having Trevor would be fantastic since we lost Bill Ludlow this past fall.
Trevor is awesome thanks for having my fav palaeontologist on
Great to hear a new voice Paulogia. I love your collaboration. Science rules.
I know that you normally try to keep it clean on your channel, but I'm glad you didn't for this one. Trevor is fantastic, especially uncensored!
I just visited the Cincinnati Museum Center for the moon orbiter display and did the natural history museum also while there. They had a bunch of signs about what was real bone, what was fake, how many different bits and pieces were used. My buddy and I had a blast trying to identify what was what, which was extra fun as we had very different vantage points (he’s tall and was standing, I’m short and was in my wheelchair to boot), and finally figured out an interesting way to easily spot real fossil versus cast (real fossils were cradled by a metal yoke, the casts were drilled and metal spikes inserted into them to hold them on with less metal). Those signs definitely weren’t a thing there when I was a little kid but I think it made the whole thing even more fun on top of being extra educational.
Most excellent,,, really enjoyed Trevor's input!!
Yay our favorite low hanging fruit destruction channel! 😂
Trevor, just saw you on JRE. Anyone who wants Dubay to experience some pain is OK by me! Grin
15:30 - I always thought that if one day we discovered a superior being that had the ability to create matter the scientists first reaction would be "Wow, cool, let's try and figure out how does that work?"
"I got the hair, I got the Suthern aksint, I gots Jesus--I'm headed for creationist stardom!"
Trevor Valle is da man! I got introduced to him through the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, and I'm smarter for it. I love how he doesn't take shit from anyone that spouts bullshit about anything that is part of his area of expertise.
@Paulogia thanks for all your hard work. Thank you also for the link to the info looking forward to it.
DUDE was AWESOME!!!!! must include him as a regular......
Ok Trevor is great, bring him back for more please.
Good show; great guest. Have him back with his choice of topic.
Love your vids, Paul, they have helped me so much. Also, have Trevor on more, really like his passion and his love of rum (like mine)
Ah yes, this is what I've been needing in my life
That name and profile picture XD
Ham and AIGs is my favorite show on UA-cam! Great work Paul!
Yay Paulogia! Thanks for another great video!
Such a cool episode, so much interesting info around the creationist BS. You definitely should have Trevor back again, he was hilarious and educational at the same time.
Great video. I really enjoyed it. Thank you both!
Once again, a truly fan-tastic video from the most underrated channel on the Tube.
I feel that I can confidently speak for this entire audience when I say that we love your work, Paul - please do keep it coming!!
Wow, thanks for the love, Paul - praise from Caesar!
I really believe that you're one of the movement's greatest voices - you're just so damn reasonable and level-headed - and moreover, you're RIGHT.
That's a VERY potent combination..
Was at the ROM 2 years ago and there were planks in front of every dinosaur stating where each bone came from mainly Real, Cast, Composite.
beer toast to Trevor Valle
Good video. Thanks for sharing it with us. I appreciate your efforts
I knew you looked familiar!! Watched you on JRE loved you there and love you here!! Your passion for what you do is amazing to witness!!!
Paul, thanks for putting up my propellor head :^) Looks great!
This had so much great information in it. Really interesting guys. And that beard is awesome!
Love this episode, informative and funny. Keep it up.
oh man this guy HAS to come back soon. he was great. oh god get him and shannon on at the same time. id watch 3 hours of that.
I'm down.
@@TattoosAndBones YOU HEARD THE MAN PAUL!!!
darklordchain that would indeed be epic :)
Especially if there had been a few beers...
Amazing video!! We need even more of that!! Thanks a Lot!
Wow you got Trevor on this show! That’s too awesome! He is awesome! I did watch that roe rogan episode when it came out! I like how he comes off as a decent scientist yet takes like the average person at a bar! Lol
Answers in Genesis is... disingenuous? Say it ain't so!
But they have our eternal salvation in mind! Them raking in wads of credulous people's cash is secondary to the Great Commission of saving souls!
I would love for a young earth creationist to explain the INSANE biodiversity that would necessarily have had to exist in their world model. How could eco systems support dozens of species of large bodied sauropod dinosaurs? How could it support dozens, hundreds even of large bodied theropod carnivores that would have been directly competing with eachother. Eco systems as it stands can only handle 3 maybe 4 large predators in an area and even then they usually have to exploit separate niches. For instance hyenas, lions, and crocodiles all exist in the same environment, and while hyenas and lions frequently directly compete for kills, they rarely directly compete with crocodiles, and that is to say nothing of the pressure that is placed on the eco system by having those 3 apex predators existing in the same environment.
What I really enjoyed about this episode was dude talking like everyone I went to grad school with. I love when scholars act like humans in public
Finest use of “fucking muppets” for a long time! Thankyou.
Great video, as always. Thanks for making my world a better place.
Trevor is great! Hang in there Trev, even the Cubs eventually won a World Series
more Trevor, please.
Really enjoyed this one. Trevor explained things in a way I could understand and appreciate and he's a hoot. Paul, you're wonderful, as always. :)
Love Trevor! Great show!
I wonder how it is to lie for a living and stun minds that could otherwise contribute to the better of humanity in science but instead get bashed back in place with an ancient fairytale.
Oh thank you so much for Trevor
Good video, thanks. You and Viced Rhino are doing some good work here.
Mr. Greenbeard--I love you. I am subscribing. You remind me EXACTLY of my college roommate (bio chem major) and Susquehanna University when he ranted.
"I need more rum" LOL Keep up the good work.
Loved your guest! Passionate, to the point. Cool guy.
Paul says, “Yeah, I’m not too hot on people either!” XD NOICE!
I just want to register my appreciation for the title of this video.
Great video guys. More Trevor please!
YESSS Trevor!
Excellent guest. I laughed loudly at Trevor's frustration. Great vid.
HOLLY S Paul awesome show! Loved Captain Green Beard! You always have the best guests. Keep up the good work.
10,000 bonus points for the Incredibles/Underminer clip
Paulogia, great video, and Trevor Valle. He did a great rant on the 'soft tissue' issue!, (sorry, couldn't resist, lol. And the scientific method. 👏💖✌️💝☮️🎃
I can't believe that Bodie and his gang aren't just performance artists.
"Answers in Genesis. Holy crap."
That's exactly what AiG is: holy crap.
Also, Trevor might be a national treasure. Even if he's Canadian. 😊
Great one !
I read a book on such dating a while ago and there were a mind boggling number of methods available. I was staggered really, I had no idea... and neither do those Christians.
sorry for ruining the 666 commentary but I found this episode particularly fun to watch and also educative. Trevor is really an interesting fellow . Paul Kudos to you for doing that day in day out every week. and a Hearty hello from France.