I thought the whole reason why people tend to be given chicken soup when sick was just because the sick person lacks an appetite, so they are given a simple soup to ingest (they still need calories and fat to heal). It's not about curing sickness, but needing to eat something. Unrelated: when I had a medical procedure, I was not allowed to eat for at least 24 hours, but I was allowed Gatorade and small amounts of chicken broth.
I like the sound of this. I had COVID after Christmas and of course my mum brought me a container of chicken noodle soup to eat. I didn’t have a big appetite or really the energy to make anything elaborate, but having soup in the fridge was something easy to heat up and comforting. I do think eating is important to do when you’re sick, just to help you maintain some level of energy.
More so, chicken soup has both water and salt, both of which you often lack because you eat and drink less and sweat a lot. And it's usually very easy on the stomach. So it's the easiest way to get some much needed nutrients. I have never ever before heard that people think it's to fight sickness or improve the immune system.
@@hkr667 i like to make chicken soup with veggies sautéed in butter and pasta cause that way you get all the food groups in one meal. Chicken broth is protein, veggies are well veggies, sautéed in butter adds fat and dairy, and pasta is the carb.
@@hkr667 I wonder if this is a region of the world or cultural thing because having grown up in the United States it's almost a very commonly accepted idea across various walks of life that chicken soup helps fight colds even though it's actually not; lots of places have their own food that is said to do this and I think it's probably like what's in the food's more than anything that might help with the body. I've only ever encountered people outside of predominantly Western colonized regions of the world or who are newly migrated to more Western colonized areas that have never heard of this basically what amounts to an old wives tale
My tonsils were removed because a: I had surpassed the benchmark of 6 flare ups a year by 4. B: I had been ill for more than 4 months (mono). C: my ENT Specialist said they were backfiring, and holding the infection in my body instead of keeping it out. They waited another 2 weeks and treated me with medication in hopes they could go down before removal, but ultimately ended up going in and removing them after no change. I recovered quickly, and suddenly gained a life without chronic bronchitis, which i had had for 6 years. So, thankfully they aren't taken out on a whim anymore, but sometimes it just has to happen. It was a difficult process, but I'm still glad they did everything they could to avoid an invasive surgery.
my daughters tonsils and adenoids where removed and ts drastcally reduced her amount of sick times, before she had them she was sick with some sort of viral illness 80 percent of the time and also they where so constantly swollen it caused severe obstructive sleep apnea, she had multiple ear infections asthma flare ups and it was bad, now the only thing we have had to deal with is the asthma. btw she was only 2 when she had all this done she was this bad,... now our older daughter is kinda having the same issue, sheis almost 5 but chronic cough, sleep apnea , swollen nodes, her tonsiles are golf ball in size and almost always have puss pockets hopfully we can get this taken care of asap we have a ENT appointment on tuesday
I was in the same boat. I would constantly get strep even when it seemed I wasn't coming in contact with it externally. I would easily get strep throat 6 or 7 time a year. My tonsils had become scarred and stayed swollen narrowing the opening to my throat. My ENT doctor said he was shocked because with the level of scarring they should have been removed years ago. It's greatly improved my life. I've not had a single case of strep since (going on 9 years!)
Think of your immune system as a series of walls defending you. Your tonsils are a lookout on the first wall. If your lookout is too cautious, it reacts every time it sees an enemy even if they're not strong enough to harm you, so it triggers a battle, resulting in tonsillitis. If you get rid of that lookout, the chance of an enemy getting past your first wall is still low, but now no lookout is triggered and you don't get sick so often.
Before I had my tonsils out I had a chronic cold and ear infections. My nasopharyngeal tonsil was enlarged to such an extent that people couldn’t understand what I was saying.
Mine got removed because I caught strep throat 11 times over the course of kindergarten, and they thought maybe it would help. I only caught 6 cases the next year, so I guess it helped a little bit...
I’ll never get tired of these Q&A tech support videos. The way the individuals they bring in light up and become so animated talking about their field of expertise is just so captivating. Another 10/10 banger tech support video ❤
I think with chicken soup, it’s definitely a helpful thing but not a medicine. You get dehydrated when sick, so the water and salt in the soup helps with that. And it’s a comfort thing. You’re stressed when you’re sick, so something comforting can relax you and make recovery easier
@@sasuxsakuxfan not in the way you are thinking. Salt is an electrolyte. It's the most basic, and arguably the most important, one. Too MUCH salt can dehydrate you, but it won't if you're getting enough water in your system.and you can't live without salts. And on the opposite of that, too much water os deadly and super unhealthy because it washes away too many of your salts and other nutrients. Too much water without enough salts, or just tok much overall is SUPER unhealthy and you can and will get water poisoning much more easily. You need to balance your salts and water intake.
I'd like to add that the traditional ingredients usually include carrots and celery, which are both high in vitamins A and C, both of which aid function of the immune system.
I feel like the chicken soup answer could have been worded better. No, it’s not a direct treatment for the illness, but it is supportive care (hydration, electrolytes, and possibly symptom relief). Supportive care is all we have in the case of most viruses and some bacterial illnesses, so it shouldn’t be discounted.
This "Expert" did not answer the question with regards to chicken soup. She throws out some BS that is typical of "Educated" "Doctors" who cannot answer a basic fundamental question, and instead goes "Well, we look at the science, towards tested medicine..." Yes, our Ancestors ate wild soups, most civilizations had Multiple varieties of "Soup" let alone Herbal soups... But this one is trying to peddle her BS Pharma meds that are "studied and tested...." funded by the same companies trying to sell you something..... Of course they will find positives and say "do this instead!" This entire video has ZERO Credibility, just with this one part.
I’m concerned that she said rigorous testing hasn’t been done with chicken soup “yet”. Why not? It isn’t a new claim. The reason is there is no financial incentive to spend money on rigorous testing. So the result is that anyone can say that it hasn’t been proven that chicken soup helps the immune system. But you can also say that it hasn’t been proven that it doesn’t help the immune system. Why? Because it hasn’t been tested. So statements shouldn’t be made saying something is wrong because it hasn’t been proven (that is a logical fallacy). It should only be called wrong if it has been proven wrong.
She didn't even say where the macrophage waste goes ): easily the most interesting question and she basically answered a completely different question. They weren't asking what a macrophage was they were asking where the waste goes and if it contributes to mucous or if it's passed in urine.
To answer it for you, essentialy macrophages break down any cell or cellular residue they "eat" into simple organic molecules and then use these molecules as building blocks for their own intracellular components!
I had a tonsillectomy because I once got strep throat 8+ times in one year. Best decision I ever made and it helped me keep my job because my boss at the time didn’t believe I kept getting it.
My sister has constant tolisitis as a child, and then at 16 got an abscess on her tonsils which forced the NHS into taking them out, finally. After that her fairly extreme 'picky eating' completely stopped. It turns out her tonsils were affecting her taste buds and making all food taste horrible, the few things she would eat had the blandest taste.
Same here! I originally had an abscess in my throat, and once it was drained, the rate that my tonsils would get inflamed was out of control. Thankfully it was pretty painless too
Yes 🥰 I really liked how honest she was about the whole “natural remedies” thing, but I kinda wish she’d done it one better: everything found in nature IS NATURAL. Everything we can synthesize into medicine HAS a naturally occurring source. So it’s such a subjective thing, what people are calling “natural” vs what they are not.
@@skykur Things that are considered natural remedies like Echinacea, Elderberry Syrup, etc. are also not found in nature. They require human intervention to make them just like many medicines. I think that’s the point Emily is making that you are overlooking.
Having my tonsils out was the best thing that ever happened to me. I was constantly ill as a child. I went in at age 11, got my tonsils out, and nearly all of that went away. No more strep, no more heavy allergies, it was amazing
Yeah! It brought me a huge relief when I was a kid (I was 6 or 7), but like 15 years later it backfired, when I took a job in a call center. Every doctor for the past ten years have said to me it's unfortunate I don't have my tonsils anymore and I'm always thinking: it's not like i cut it myself duh
@@PinkiePow What does a call center have to do with it? Are u saying u have had negative reaction? I guess it might be diff for each person but I've been great for 50yrs.
@@intheredcold9216 I'm glad for you! And it really worked for me too, when I was a kid. It's just my personal situation that constant talking made my throat go haywire, to the point I had to change jobs.
I like how she looks like she's looking at the crew while answering questions, like she's discussing it to them. I guess more people would prefer that she look at the camera, but I think it could mean that she connects with the crew and that it's her response to them (I assume) intently listening
Usually, this would be off putting as a viewer, but the switch between eye contact with the crew and the camera made it somehow feel more immersive. Really cool!
I had tonsillitis every year as a kid and they would never take them out for insurance reasons. Finally got a doctor when I was 15 who said nope you don't need to keep having this happen. Got them out with LASERS and I stopped having so many sinus and throat infections that made being a kid miserable. I even had impacted sinuses because of it. Best procedure for me!
I had sever bouts of tonsillitis as a kid and my parents and doctor discussed getting a tonsillectimy as a kid around 8 but then they stopped and have had no issues since. I think it depends on the person rather than just taking them out. It changed for me but maybe not others. I am now 61.
Body: "I turned up the heat because viruses cannot survive very long at this temperature" Me: "I also cannot survive very long at this temperature" Body: *Pikachu face*
Yeah, that's why it's good to lower it when they get too high or if you're showing some other symptoms that could indicate your immune system is going a little overboard.
She is fantastic at explaining her answers to these questions. One question I wish that would have come up is, is being sick 1 or 2 times a year show that your immune system is active and healthy? Because I have read that it is showing that you have a healthy immune system. I think the article I read quoted "It's like your body getting a tune up every year when you are sick at least 1 or 2 times a year during the flu and cold seasons." Wanted to know if that was actually true.
@@amandak.4246 Yeah, and then I read in a different article that if you don't get sick at all it can show a weak immune system. That article was very vague, so would love more information of what it means to catch the flu/cold every year or if you don't get sick at all for years.
Your immune system might be getting rid of pathogens every week. It kills cancer cells every day, every hour. You just don't know about it. So if you get actually sick only 1-2 times a year, you definitely have a healthy body.
@@ashleywaner1284 yup. And the reasoning was getting sick every 6 months or so is our body's way to detox. And the sickness is mostly cold and flu. The temporary inflammation and fever kills the bad bacteria and viruses. While the flu is our body's way to flush those dead bacteria, toxins, etc out. It works more like a reset of our system
No, it's not. Getting sick once or twice a year signals you got exposed to pathogens enough to get sick, whether that be a result of poor hygiene or just chance. Your immune system is active whether you get sick or not.
I would really doubt that. I think it's all about exposure + resistance. If you can feel that your body's fighting it off, but don't actually get sick, surely that's better than actually getting sick. I am not a very hygienic person, and also, either by cause or effect, do not get sick very often. My kids are the same. A cold here and there, and at least one upsetting sickness each, but mostly we are blessedly ilness-free. I get very sick every once in a while, like 4x in the past 15 years. The last ones were Covid in 2020, and then bronchitis just over this last Christmas, so I hope that the next one will be far, faaaaar away! We live in the country, and usually have pets. Maybe that helps. Unfortunately, my husband gets sick very regularly, even though our three kids and I do not, so it's not purely due to location.
When I was a kid I had bad IBS. I would have spats of not being able to keep down food. Chicken soup was one of the few things I could eat without throwing up. So, outside of just containing basic good nutrients, I'd say it's also something that is easy to digest (vs say a chicken breast in a salad with some light dressing). Also, it tastes so good when done right, it's hard to not feel psychologically better 🙂.
Mine were removed when I was 29. They were conspicuously blistered and giving me back to back infections that did not stop until they were out. I was still on the pediatric ward afterwards despite being 29, and yes, I did get ice cream for being such a good girl.
@@chriswheeler8143 When I got mine out, my younger brother was having his out the same day and he went first. By the time I got conscious and back to the room, my brother had eaten the last of the ice cream they had on the floor. The jerk. - So I got iced drinks.
She did not answer about where the waste goes after the macrophages consume lymphatic waste, so I'll answer it: it is reduced back down to its components and reused by other cells in the body. Everything that can possibly be recycled in the body, is.
When I was 8 years old, I got my tonsils removed, and it really helped me. Before I was a very sick kid, I couldn't even take a cold shower, but now (I am 22) my health is much better, I rarely get sick, and I never had anything more serious than a flu.
I got my tonsils removed around 8 years old too. I was sickly, skinny kid. I don’t remember if I could take a cold shower but I usually cough a lot at night and I had to wear jacket while sleeping.
I had severe problems with my tonsils, annual strep, and tonsil stones and discharge. Constantly had sore throat. Went to the doctor several times and had to eventually go to a different one to get a tonsillectomy, as the first doctor insisted ‘we don’t take those out anymore’. I’m so glad I did, I’ve been a lot healthier and felt better since.
Concerning the anxiety and depression question, our nervous system typically produces cortisol by the cortex of the adrenal gland. Cortisol is known to be a suppressant of our immune system. To some degree, it is given to patients of organ transplant to reduce the likelihood of organ rejection.
Glad i wasn't the only one to think that. @nicolehallinen asked where the waste of a macrophage goes, but she just repeated what a macrophage is... Can anyone help? Does the macrophage break everything up into such tiny building parts that the cells can reuse it for whatever purpose they need?
@@davidzuercher I think it is the answer yes, it breaks things to building blocks, like amino acids so cells can use them. Nothing goes to waste. But I'm not an expert. There are different organalles in the cells which specified to do things, so there is a more elaborate answer probably.
@Selina Prince for the fever one I got the impression that she was assuming the person with the fever would take an antibiotic, antifungal, or antiviral, in which case the medication would do the job the immune system was using the fever to accomplish (yes, that's oversimplifying). But how often do we really take antivirals? I have never been prescribed one. Whenever it's a viral infection they typically tell you to eat healthy, stay hydrated, rest, and let your immune system handle it. So I'd definitely like an expanded answer on this one.
@@aynine3466 that's what I thought too but I have some background in biology that maybe the average person doesn't. She just needed to take the answer one step further to something along the lines of what you stated.
@@davidzuercher so the macrophage engulfs these waste and / or foreign particles, digests or breaks it down with the help of enzymes in lysosome and then the waste is assimilated to be removed. "thrown out" is maybe not the right term because the body absorbs a lot of useful components of it, rest may go to autophagosomes or exosomes which might degrade it further. it's more of a 'recycle' mechanism rather than a 'removal' mechanism because the wastes are used up by the body in one way or another
It goes back out to its surroundings and even present it on their body like a medal for other immune cells to see. That’s how they communicate with other immune cells to let them know of the infection, and to know what to look for.
The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
My tonsils were removed because they ruptured. My sister, a bit younger, had ruptured adenoids but out parents were convinced by the doctor that it was unnecessary. Decades later, she is still mad that she had to turn 18 to get a doctor to remove them. There's a midpoint in treatment, and I'd say a ruptured organ is definitely past that midpoint.
8:13 I really wanted to know "specifically" what happened to the waste but she decided to explain what a microphage was instead... 6:21 I was also very curious about the impact of anxiety and stress on the immune system, but now I only know that it may cause inflammation - how? What impact does this type of inflammation have on the immune system? 12:26 Does treating the symptoms (such as a fever) without prescriptions prolong recovery? I don't want to pump my kids full of drugs every time they are sick, but I also don't want them to be miserable either...
Immunologist here. 1. The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
2. The endocrine system and the immune system are tightly correlated, anxiety changes the amounts of certain hormones that have a direct impact on the immune system readiness, one of this hormones, cortisol has a lot of effects on the immune system and during stress or depression can increase for example exacerbating autoimmune disease and the opposite happens during depression.
I dated a guy in his 30's who's parents would not have his tonsils out when he was younger. He kept getting yeast infections in his throat and ended up getting them removed at 35...
My Tonsils were removed in the 80's. I didn't have recurring infections or any real issues. Our Doctor noticed they were enlarged and convinced my mother to have them removed.
I've just been diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and so have been doing a lot of learning about the human immune system and my mind always reels at the complexity of that system 😵💫 its astounding and humbling to know all that is going on inside us
On the chicken soup question I do recall that there was a study done on the antiviral effects of various African traditional soups. They found that the ingredients separately didn't have much effect but once cooked together they actually had decent antiviral properties. Wish I remembered the name of the study
The study was comparing the _raw_ ingredients separately with the _cooked_ ingredients combined? That's easy to explain, though. Cooking causes significant chemical changes, most commonly releasing the nutrients in the food to make them more accessible.
@@6Xyzzy But the study didn't confirm that one ingredient wasn't the whole cure. It only confirmed that one _raw_ ingredient wasn't the whole cure. The possibility remains that one ingredient, when cooked, becomes the whole cure.
The source is the study published by Stephen Rennard. He did it on different recipes for chicken soup, as well as pureed vegetables or raw vegetables- and chicken broth does have anti-inflammatory properties, which does help with colds. Edit: it doesn't necessarily mean it helps you recover faster or that you can go without medicine (if it becomes necessary). It just means that it does have an effect in making you feel better.
12:28 “The fever strategy may no longer be necessary.” Fever is still necessary because it does not just make the body inhospitable for infection, but it helps stimulate immune response. One example is the neutrophil recruitment to the site.
I agree, I am an immunologist and microbiologist. The main reason we stop HIGH fevers quickly because a lot of pathogenic bacteria that have co-evolved with us have adapted to fever response. Good examples of this are Salmonella and E. coli who can grow at high temperatures without much problem.
Some pathogens induce a hyper-inflammatory response or a cytokine storm that can be life-threatening. In such cases, tempering the immune system is the best way to help the infected individual. Often the pathogen is already well under control, but the immune system is still raging on, leading to inadvertent disease
@@TheBartgry I don’t understand how your argument about cytokine storm is related to the importance of fever to immune response or “no longer necessary” as argued in the video. Usually, I’d associate sepsis with cytokine storm, but there are also many other ways to cause it. That’s why I’m confused at the how it could relate to this one particular topic.
I've heard chicken soup is a staple because it often has vegetables, protein, and salt and fluids, all of which help replenish minerals and vitamins lost when you're ill/feverish/vomiting etc.
I had severe tonsillitis when I was a kid and was unable to eat solid foods for about 3 weeks. It actually ended up triggering the OCD I've now dealt with ever since. I can totally understand why people were encouraged to remove their children's tonsils if they saw other kids end up with illnesses like strep that really impacted quality of life. I didn't end up getting mine removed, but getting tonsilitis was a horrible experience.
PANDAS ( (Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcus) is a strep associated syndrome that has links with OCD. Can happen to adults too.
I saw your comment and thought it could be helpful. The research seems to be in its infancy, but there are resources out there that could help you figure out if that is part of the picture. I hope it helps.
Before I got my tonsils taken out, I would get strep multiple times a year and I had sleep apnea. After I got them taken out, I rarely get sick, and sleep much better. Glad I got mine out
All I can think about is the fact she the word Covid and wasn't "silenced". She didn't dance around it like others on this app. Also very educational, may never use this info but it was a good listen.
Anyone who has Lupus can tell you that stress can trigger an immune flare-up so yeah I'd surmise that your immune system and nervous system are at least interactive on some level.
I honestly am not mad my parents decided to have the ENT remove my tonsils and adenoids as a kid. I had massive issues and actually remember how sick I was on a regular basis before the surgery. Since then no strep and my sleep is a lot bigger and that's like 25 years ago. I definitely think some people could have avoided the surgery but for some of us it gives us quality of life back.
Some studies have actually found that chicken soups can help colds at least on a symptomatic level (not an immune resonse level) because of some of the proteins in the soup like the amino acid cystine which has been found to be a good way to thin and release mucus by decreasing the viscosity of the mucus, while other agents in the soup may have minor anti-inflamatory effects that help releve the swelling caused by upper respitory infections. Chicken soup is by no means a cold cure, it may help releve some of the more uncomfortable symptoms of a cold and make you feel less stuffy. More studies could certainly be done but eating chicken soup will not harm you, and may actually help with your cold symtoms.
I was kinda surprised when I heard that in America soups are mostly associated with the time when you're sick. For example in my country chiken (noodle) soup is just your average dish.
When I was a child I had tonsillitis two to three times a year, every year. Each time I got high fever, was barely able to swallow food and was sick for at least two weeks. Then my tonsils got removed and already the next year was the first winter where I wasn't sick a single time, not even a tiny flu. I've never been as sick again as I used to before I got them removed, so I don't regret that at all.
The chicken soup thing is interesting, because when I caught cold or flu, I had this sudden craving for any hot soup, be it Veggie soups or even instant noodle soups (which is the opposite of healthy lol). Maybe it's just the body wanting anything warm to enter the system, idk?
I think it's more likely to be the nutrients. Soups tend to have a lot of nutrients, in a relatively easy-to-digest form (already dissolved in water; can't get much easier to digest than that). As for craving unhealthy soups... well... sometimes it takes your body a while to figure out that those aren't nutritious, when they superficially resemble something nutritious.
@@Tzizenorec exactly. It's very easy to drop the ball in terms of nutrition when we're sick, despite this being the time we should be especially concerned with it. Soup is the ultimate choice to stay well nourished and hydrated without much effort and is easy to consume even if our appetite is gone. And the cherry on top is that its delish :)
The unhealthy concern with Ramen (specifically) is the salt content... Which IS a bit over-loaded for a healthy human adult... However, when you're sick, you may be "pushing fluids" like the doc's tell you and all... BUT for every glass of water, your salt content GOES DOWN... It's very possible that you craved the "unhealthy over-salted soup" because your sodium levels had dropped and you actually NEEDED it... It's important as a human that we put forth the energy to MAKE informed and concerned decisions for ourselves... It might be important to be careful how much of the "unhealthy instant stuff" you eat in general, EVEN when you're sick, but it's also worth relaxing a little for when you're sick. How much salt did you eat compared to normally??? I get sick and my diet can turn almost 90% liquid, especially with a flu, or stomach bug... Anything else is just nauseating... BUT if I'm not careful my sodium value drops off, and I can get even worse without dipping into the instant soups and other "unhealthy sodium sources" a little bit... ;o)
People cease it because they associate it with two things: water and salt. Both of which you need in abundance when sick. Your body NEEDS salt. It's one of the more important, and most basic, of the electrolytes your body needs to function properly. Everything gets thrown off when you're sick, especially if everything is coming out either end rather voraciously. You need water, but you need salts as well. Without it, you'll just flush any nutrients you get out of your body and you'll make yourself sicker. That's why drinking too much water is actually super unhealthy for you.
I was a kid of the 70s. I can remember how getting your tonsils out was such a thing. It wasn't that uncommon for other kids to ask if your tonsils have been removed yet, that they've had theirs removed etc. I never did.
The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
At 1:26 The tonsilis were never extracted when inflamed and have visible infection on. There was first treated with antibiotics and when the infection were gone than the operation was carried out.
I love this person! You can tell she is passionate about her career! You can see her smiling and talking about immunology like someone talking about their favorite movie or video game. 😊
I had my tonsils removed as a kid because I was getting ear and throat infections every couple weeks. As soon as my tonsils were out I never had that problem again. Weeks of heath that turned into months between sniffles let alone big infections. I’m still extremely susceptible to bronchitis and lung and head cold kinda stuff. And Covid was brutal each time I got it. But nothing like I was before I got my tonsils removed. Best medical decision my parents ever made.
I feel like it should have been said that a chicken noodle soup will give you salt, it has protein that is easily consumed and a warm liquid will often provide relief when you are sick.
When you are stressed Our Adrenal Gland (specifically the cortex of it) respond to this stress with a secretion process of a hormone called Cortisol (also other hormones but basically this one) which is called the stress hormone, and actually have an anti inflammatory feature which leads to a more suppressed immune system leading to more infections and diseases
So, with the last question about catching the same infection twice, and how fast you can get over it, I would like to share a story about it. One year, despite getting the shot for it, I still got the flu. But because I got the shot before hand, I didn't get the flu as bad as I would have, had I not gotten it. Simple story to show that getting your vaccines is typically (because some people legitimately can't) better than not getting them at all.
I don’t think there is a specific time frame. My good friend got covid, 7 days later he was cured, and literally 4 days later was reinfected for another week.
This assumes the virus you were infected with was in the flu shot. When I say in the flu shot, I mean an attenuated virus. You may have cleared the virus because the virus was easy to clear or because you had a previous infection. In any event, getting the shot does help with community transmission and reduces the impact on everyone. Those with autoimmune issues should always get the shot, although I know people who do not. This falls into the "play silly games and win silly prizes" category.
I'm so glad at how she phrased the response to the last question. So many people don't understand there's a difference between having a disease/being sick, having problematic levels of a pathogen in their system, and having trace amounts of it. Your body even carries things that could cause serious disease if the number ever gets out of control or they get into the wrong organ, but they carry on in. happy symbiosis when that doesn't happen. As for the question right before it, I am pro medicine but I know that antibiotics can be overused, so I was always told to go ahead an let the fever do it's job unless it gets too high or goes on for too long.
Tonsils, I have 3 sisters, my 2 older sisters had theirs removed at age 4. I had severe tonsillitis 2x a year but drsxwere on a kick that tonsils were good. Then my 8 yr younger sister had hers out at age 7. It wasn't until my 45th bday did I stop having tonsillitis 2x a year. So it is strange to see the switching in the 60s and 70s about tonsil removal, within one family!
As much as i enjoy most of the people on these support videos, and she certainly does say a lot, she never really answers quite a few of the questions. She explains some of the question but at the end the answer is left unfulfilled.
@@oliviaw.2842 But that's exactly what she said. She said she only takes medicine (so she doesn't have food recommendations since all of them are "natural remedies") and she said there have been no studies showing chicken broth helps with sickness (so essentially "we don't know").
Good video and information although I disagree with the tonsil question answer at 1:00. Parents were not "gullible", they were doing their best with the information and medical consensus available at the time. The medical field has evolved and we now know more through research.
When i was little i used get sick a lot until my kindergarten teacher told my mom to let me play on the dirt without shoes. im surprised that this is being said by drs until now
It's also important to say that the example for diabetes being an autoimmune disease is correct only for Type I diabetes and not for the more prevalent Type II. Type II is much more influenced by the lifestyle of people (eating bad and leading a sedentary lifestyle)!
Watching this to prepare myself emotionally for immunology. I've learned a little about immunology for an internship so the question about how the immune system works made me laugh because it's soooooo complicated.
Hey, I feel you - Immunology was easily the hardest class I took for my B.S. I did better in Anatomy and Physiology, but those are kind of my thing. I had an especially hard time in Immunology because my teacher was kinda mean/detached. I hope you have a great experience and you are doing a good thing prepping IN ADVANCE - there’s nothing like going in feeling prepared and it really gives you a boost to be a little ahead of the introductory topics. Best wishes to your academic future!
It seems I have an interest for the more complex subjects. In uni I took a neuro-psychopharmacology course for fun. Yes, fun. I couldn't pass up the opportunity to learn. Even the Psy majors who were required to take it looked at me like I was crazy for saying that 😅 And I find immunology fascinating too.
"The fever strategy may no longer be necessary" - that, is a dangerous approach. There needs to be a line drawn in terms of when we use antibiotics and when we let our own immune system deal with the problem.
I remember reading somewhere that the bromide salts in chicken broth MAY help thin mucus secretions when you're sick, so that you can cough more productively? Maybe?
Great job, but one small unfortunate thing is that she didn't answer the question about macrophages. She mentioned their job in the body, but didn't get to the part of answering the actual question, which was "where does the waste go?"
She was kinda vague with her answers. Like when asked how our immune system works, she didn't elaborate on how it works. She just repeated the analogy the user made.
one of my friends gets antibiotic resistant tonsil infections at least twice a year for WEEKS (sometimes even a few months) at a time, and thats been happening since she was born basically, and this year at the age of 18 theyre removing her tonsils bc shes TIRED lol
Tonsils are the devil. Had mine removed at 28 and it changed my life. Got rid of my halitosis (thanks tonsiliths) and got rid of my sleep apnea. School would have been so different if I had them removed as a kid. Edit: also, chicken noodle soup is good for colds because of the massive amount of electrolytes, which you are most likely needing to replenish due to the sickness.
You’re right. I got my tonsils removed around 7/8 years old. Before that I was a sickly, skinny kid. Yes It made halitosis, sleep apnea, fever, cough, difficult to eat hard food, sore throat, etc. I became a healthier kid after the surgery.
Would love to hear more about taking vitamin C, zinc, etc. when you’re sick and if it actually does anything. I’ve heard for the most part you just pee out the excess but I still take certain things when I feel a cold coming on because I figure it’s worth a shot😂
It is helpful to get enough vitamins and metals when you get sick because they help your cells perform important reactions. When you’re sick, you may use more than the recommended daily dose as the dose is calculated based on a healthy person. Vitamin C and other water-soluble vitamins are safe at high doses because you just pee out whatever your body doesn’t use. In the case of fat-soluble vitamins (K, A, D, and E) and iron, it is important to follow the recommended doses because they can be toxic in excess.
When my mom got covid she was really sick. I ordered black seeds supplements with zinc, vitamin D3+K2 and C and she recovered/improved within hours. She took them in the morning and by dinner time she was her usual self, her sinuses opened up and coughing stopped. Pharmaceuticals can help if your natural body is healthy. If your cells and immune system are compromised, the medicine is sometimes ineffective or makes it worse.
What I’ve heard on channels like this one is essentially that your body only uses the amount of each nutrient it needs and pees out the rest, BUT often times we are deficient in certain nutrients, especially when we are sick, and so taking those supplements can help replenish the supply your body needs to function optimally. That said, if you aren’t deficient then taking the supplements isn’t actually going to do anything.
Chicken soup help, but mostly when its made like the old days - with the bones and skin. That way you get collagen and important amino acids like proline and glycine.
I agree, I am an immunologist and microbiologist. Although we have now great antibiotics that make fever seem unnecessary, she did not mention that inflammation, including fever, cause great damage to you body, so stopping it before it goes out of control and kills you is sometimes necessary. But the main reason we stop HIGH fevers quickly is because a lot of pathogenic bacteria that have co-evolved with us have adapted to fever response a long many other weapons our immune system have. A good example of this is Salmonella who can grow at high temperatures.
Forgot to mention that some bacteria even trigger fever to eliminate competition (good bacteria) and make it easier to invade your body. Also, viruses are mostly undisturbed by fever. Fever does increase the effectiveness of antibodies for example. So like everything in biology, it is complicated.
I like this video, the only answer I’d push back on is the one about chicken soup and natural remedies. The reason is most foods have been studied enough to know the chemical breakdown. This means that a scientist can say, with accuracy, the effectiveness of chicken soup or other things against X disease or deficiency.
totally agree, she is just dumb and stupid on top of being judgmental and believing she is too good to be using natural medicine even though they have a natural medicine origin
It's great to see a present-day Immunologist teaching that which we old timers learned in high school, this information has been out there for all to learn for many years. My knowledge of this aspect of life saved my life when fighting cancer. My Oncologist worked with me and together we defeated an aggressive cancer few have survived; I was the second to survive my prognosis in his 45 years of practice. I wish our education system was doing a better job of helping people face reality and not conjecture.
@@josemv25 You have that right. Thankfully, I had a high school biology teacher taught us to eat dirt, he said it would keep our immune system strong, and he was right.
@@Michael-Oh The conversation was about the immune system. Just sharing how a strong immune system can save a life, without it I would have died in 3 to 4 months, go figure.
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Chicken soup might not help your immune system, but 227 books tell us it's good for the soul.
Oh dear lord, is that how many there are now?
Baba says "It couldn't hurt".
It is ❤
Those books gut punch you right in the emotions! I read my moms during the summer as a kid and I was not ready.?
Man I used to love those books as a kid
Can we PLEASE get a Language Support episode with a Linguist? Language is such an interesting _thing_ and I'm sure there will be lots of fun questions
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I thought the whole reason why people tend to be given chicken soup when sick was just because the sick person lacks an appetite, so they are given a simple soup to ingest (they still need calories and fat to heal). It's not about curing sickness, but needing to eat something. Unrelated: when I had a medical procedure, I was not allowed to eat for at least 24 hours, but I was allowed Gatorade and small amounts of chicken broth.
I like the sound of this. I had COVID after Christmas and of course my mum brought me a container of chicken noodle soup to eat. I didn’t have a big appetite or really the energy to make anything elaborate, but having soup in the fridge was something easy to heat up and comforting. I do think eating is important to do when you’re sick, just to help you maintain some level of energy.
And the warm broth is soothing
More so, chicken soup has both water and salt, both of which you often lack because you eat and drink less and sweat a lot. And it's usually very easy on the stomach. So it's the easiest way to get some much needed nutrients. I have never ever before heard that people think it's to fight sickness or improve the immune system.
@@hkr667 i like to make chicken soup with veggies sautéed in butter and pasta cause that way you get all the food groups in one meal. Chicken broth is protein, veggies are well veggies, sautéed in butter adds fat and dairy, and pasta is the carb.
@@hkr667 I wonder if this is a region of the world or cultural thing because having grown up in the United States it's almost a very commonly accepted idea across various walks of life that chicken soup helps fight colds even though it's actually not; lots of places have their own food that is said to do this and I think it's probably like what's in the food's more than anything that might help with the body. I've only ever encountered people outside of predominantly Western colonized regions of the world or who are newly migrated to more Western colonized areas that have never heard of this basically what amounts to an old wives tale
My tonsils were removed because a: I had surpassed the benchmark of 6 flare ups a year by 4. B: I had been ill for more than 4 months (mono). C: my ENT Specialist said they were backfiring, and holding the infection in my body instead of keeping it out. They waited another 2 weeks and treated me with medication in hopes they could go down before removal, but ultimately ended up going in and removing them after no change. I recovered quickly, and suddenly gained a life without chronic bronchitis, which i had had for 6 years. So, thankfully they aren't taken out on a whim anymore, but sometimes it just has to happen. It was a difficult process, but I'm still glad they did everything they could to avoid an invasive surgery.
my daughters tonsils and adenoids where removed and ts drastcally reduced her amount of sick times, before she had them she was sick with some sort of viral illness 80 percent of the time and also they where so constantly swollen it caused severe obstructive sleep apnea, she had multiple ear infections asthma flare ups and it was bad, now the only thing we have had to deal with is the asthma. btw she was only 2 when she had all this done she was this bad,... now our older daughter is kinda having the same issue, sheis almost 5 but chronic cough, sleep apnea , swollen nodes, her tonsiles are golf ball in size and almost always have puss pockets hopfully we can get this taken care of asap we have a ENT appointment on tuesday
I was in the same boat. I would constantly get strep even when it seemed I wasn't coming in contact with it externally. I would easily get strep throat 6 or 7 time a year. My tonsils had become scarred and stayed swollen narrowing the opening to my throat. My ENT doctor said he was shocked because with the level of scarring they should have been removed years ago. It's greatly improved my life. I've not had a single case of strep since (going on 9 years!)
Think of your immune system as a series of walls defending you. Your tonsils are a lookout on the first wall. If your lookout is too cautious, it reacts every time it sees an enemy even if they're not strong enough to harm you, so it triggers a battle, resulting in tonsillitis. If you get rid of that lookout, the chance of an enemy getting past your first wall is still low, but now no lookout is triggered and you don't get sick so often.
Before I had my tonsils out I had a chronic cold and ear infections. My nasopharyngeal tonsil was enlarged to such an extent that people couldn’t understand what I was saying.
Mine got removed because I caught strep throat 11 times over the course of kindergarten, and they thought maybe it would help. I only caught 6 cases the next year, so I guess it helped a little bit...
I’ll never get tired of these Q&A tech support videos. The way the individuals they bring in light up and become so animated talking about their field of expertise is just so captivating. Another 10/10 banger tech support video ❤
Totally agree..watching anyone with a passion for something is a beautiful thing to see.
I think with chicken soup, it’s definitely a helpful thing but not a medicine. You get dehydrated when sick, so the water and salt in the soup helps with that. And it’s a comfort thing. You’re stressed when you’re sick, so something comforting can relax you and make recovery easier
salt dehydrates you more
@@sasuxsakuxfan Not really. Your body needs a balance of water and salt. Getting enough of _both_ is called "hydration".
@@sasuxsakuxfan not in the way you are thinking. Salt is an electrolyte. It's the most basic, and arguably the most important, one. Too MUCH salt can dehydrate you, but it won't if you're getting enough water in your system.and you can't live without salts. And on the opposite of that, too much water os deadly and super unhealthy because it washes away too many of your salts and other nutrients. Too much water without enough salts, or just tok much overall is SUPER unhealthy and you can and will get water poisoning much more easily.
You need to balance your salts and water intake.
without salt your body wont hold water. There is balance in nature.
I'd like to add that the traditional ingredients usually include carrots and celery, which are both high in vitamins A and C, both of which aid function of the immune system.
I feel like the chicken soup answer could have been worded better. No, it’s not a direct treatment for the illness, but it is supportive care (hydration, electrolytes, and possibly symptom relief). Supportive care is all we have in the case of most viruses and some bacterial illnesses, so it shouldn’t be discounted.
This "Expert" did not answer the question with regards to chicken soup. She throws out some BS that is typical of "Educated" "Doctors" who cannot answer a basic fundamental question, and instead goes "Well, we look at the science, towards tested medicine..."
Yes, our Ancestors ate wild soups, most civilizations had Multiple varieties of "Soup" let alone Herbal soups...
But this one is trying to peddle her BS Pharma meds that are "studied and tested...." funded by the same companies trying to sell you something..... Of course they will find positives and say "do this instead!"
This entire video has ZERO Credibility, just with this one part.
Common cold
The question was is chicken soup was good for the immune system
Agreed
I’m concerned that she said rigorous testing hasn’t been done with chicken soup “yet”. Why not? It isn’t a new claim. The reason is there is no financial incentive to spend money on rigorous testing. So the result is that anyone can say that it hasn’t been proven that chicken soup helps the immune system. But you can also say that it hasn’t been proven that it doesn’t help the immune system. Why? Because it hasn’t been tested.
So statements shouldn’t be made saying something is wrong because it hasn’t been proven (that is a logical fallacy). It should only be called wrong if it has been proven wrong.
She didn't even say where the macrophage waste goes ): easily the most interesting question and she basically answered a completely different question. They weren't asking what a macrophage was they were asking where the waste goes and if it contributes to mucous or if it's passed in urine.
She also didn’t answer the psoriasis question. ☹️
To answer it for you, essentialy macrophages break down any cell or cellular residue they "eat" into simple organic molecules and then use these molecules as building blocks for their own intracellular components!
@@ioulianaparissi nice
she didn't and I thought that was the question
I had a tonsillectomy because I once got strep throat 8+ times in one year. Best decision I ever made and it helped me keep my job because my boss at the time didn’t believe I kept getting it.
My sister has constant tolisitis as a child, and then at 16 got an abscess on her tonsils which forced the NHS into taking them out, finally. After that her fairly extreme 'picky eating' completely stopped. It turns out her tonsils were affecting her taste buds and making all food taste horrible, the few things she would eat had the blandest taste.
Same here! I originally had an abscess in my throat, and once it was drained, the rate that my tonsils would get inflamed was out of control. Thankfully it was pretty painless too
Same, I had it all the time as a kid. Since getting them out, I've NEVER had it again.
@@SLCclimber You can get tonsillitis if you have no tonsils, unless they grow back, and that is exceptionally rare.
@@SevCaswell Wow, I didn’t know either of those things. And they can grow back?! Wtf
I hope she's a teacher. I wish my immunology teacher would've had a smidgen of the warmth this woman has!!
Yes 🥰 I really liked how honest she was about the whole “natural remedies” thing, but I kinda wish she’d done it one better: everything found in nature IS NATURAL. Everything we can synthesize into medicine HAS a naturally occurring source. So it’s such a subjective thing, what people are calling “natural” vs what they are not.
@@emilysmith2965 Yes but no. Combining 2 things that occur in Nature can produce something that could never be found naturally.
@@skykur Things that are considered natural remedies like Echinacea, Elderberry Syrup, etc. are also not found in nature. They require human intervention to make them just like many medicines. I think that’s the point Emily is making that you are overlooking.
She most likely gets paid a lot more than a teacher is. Just pay your teachers more
I'm so intrigued by the way she explains and talks. She makes difficult knowledge easy to understand
Having my tonsils out was the best thing that ever happened to me. I was constantly ill as a child. I went in at age 11, got my tonsils out, and nearly all of that went away. No more strep, no more heavy allergies, it was amazing
Same, mine looked like swiss cheese, were constantly kicking out stinking tonsil stones and frequently made me ill enough to need to be in bed.
Yeah! It brought me a huge relief when I was a kid (I was 6 or 7), but like 15 years later it backfired, when I took a job in a call center. Every doctor for the past ten years have said to me it's unfortunate I don't have my tonsils anymore and I'm always thinking: it's not like i cut it myself duh
@@PinkiePow What does a call center have to do with it? Are u saying u have had negative reaction? I guess it might be diff for each person but I've been great for 50yrs.
@@intheredcold9216 I'm glad for you! And it really worked for me too, when I was a kid. It's just my personal situation that constant talking made my throat go haywire, to the point I had to change jobs.
@@terramarini6880 that's why I had my tonsils out! Best decision ever!
I like how she looks like she's looking at the crew while answering questions, like she's discussing it to them. I guess more people would prefer that she look at the camera, but I think it could mean that she connects with the crew and that it's her response to them (I assume) intently listening
i love the idea of the crew behind these videos being genuinely interested as well
i like it too. though it’s likely the crew wasn’t happy about it and wanted her to look at the camera lol
She's being interactive with both the crew and audience ☺️
Usually, this would be off putting as a viewer, but the switch between eye contact with the crew and the camera made it somehow feel more immersive.
Really cool!
I had tonsillitis every year as a kid and they would never take them out for insurance reasons. Finally got a doctor when I was 15 who said nope you don't need to keep having this happen. Got them out with LASERS and I stopped having so many sinus and throat infections that made being a kid miserable. I even had impacted sinuses because of it. Best procedure for me!
I had sever bouts of tonsillitis as a kid and my parents and doctor discussed getting a tonsillectimy as a kid around 8 but then they stopped and have had no issues since. I think it depends on the person rather than just taking them out. It changed for me but maybe not others. I am now 61.
Body: "I turned up the heat because viruses cannot survive very long at this temperature"
Me: "I also cannot survive very long at this temperature"
Body: *Pikachu face*
That is thought to be how the 1918 Influenza killed so many people.
Yeah, that's why it's good to lower it when they get too high or if you're showing some other symptoms that could indicate your immune system is going a little overboard.
She is fantastic at explaining her answers to these questions. One question I wish that would have come up is, is being sick 1 or 2 times a year show that your immune system is active and healthy? Because I have read that it is showing that you have a healthy immune system. I think the article I read quoted "It's like your body getting a tune up every year when you are sick at least 1 or 2 times a year during the flu and cold seasons." Wanted to know if that was actually true.
@@amandak.4246 Yeah, and then I read in a different article that if you don't get sick at all it can show a weak immune system. That article was very vague, so would love more information of what it means to catch the flu/cold every year or if you don't get sick at all for years.
Your immune system might be getting rid of pathogens every week. It kills cancer cells every day, every hour. You just don't know about it. So if you get actually sick only 1-2 times a year, you definitely have a healthy body.
@@ashleywaner1284 yup. And the reasoning was getting sick every 6 months or so is our body's way to detox. And the sickness is mostly cold and flu. The temporary inflammation and fever kills the bad bacteria and viruses. While the flu is our body's way to flush those dead bacteria, toxins, etc out. It works more like a reset of our system
No, it's not. Getting sick once or twice a year signals you got exposed to pathogens enough to get sick, whether that be a result of poor hygiene or just chance. Your immune system is active whether you get sick or not.
I would really doubt that. I think it's all about exposure + resistance. If you can feel that your body's fighting it off, but don't actually get sick, surely that's better than actually getting sick.
I am not a very hygienic person, and also, either by cause or effect, do not get sick very often. My kids are the same. A cold here and there, and at least one upsetting sickness each, but mostly we are blessedly ilness-free.
I get very sick every once in a while, like 4x in the past 15 years. The last ones were Covid in 2020, and then bronchitis just over this last Christmas, so I hope that the next one will be far, faaaaar away!
We live in the country, and usually have pets. Maybe that helps. Unfortunately, my husband gets sick very regularly, even though our three kids and I do not, so it's not purely due to location.
When I was a kid I had bad IBS. I would have spats of not being able to keep down food. Chicken soup was one of the few things I could eat without throwing up. So, outside of just containing basic good nutrients, I'd say it's also something that is easy to digest (vs say a chicken breast in a salad with some light dressing). Also, it tastes so good when done right, it's hard to not feel psychologically better 🙂.
Mine were removed when I was 29. They were conspicuously blistered and giving me back to back infections that did not stop until they were out. I was still on the pediatric ward afterwards despite being 29, and yes, I did get ice cream for being such a good girl.
I wish! I was so looking forward to the ice cream and they gave me toast !
awwww
@@chriswheeler8143 You didn't ask for ice cream?
Had mine out when I was little. Mom said I refused to open my mouth. Not to speak or eat or drink. The first food I had was pretzels
@@chriswheeler8143 When I got mine out, my younger brother was having his out the same day and he went first.
By the time I got conscious and back to the room, my brother had eaten the last of the ice cream they had on the floor. The jerk.
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So I got iced drinks.
She did not answer about where the waste goes after the macrophages consume lymphatic waste, so I'll answer it: it is reduced back down to its components and reused by other cells in the body. Everything that can possibly be recycled in the body, is.
When I was 8 years old, I got my tonsils removed, and it really helped me.
Before I was a very sick kid, I couldn't even take a cold shower, but now (I am 22) my health is much better, I rarely get sick, and I never had anything more serious than a flu.
I got my tonsils removed around 8 years old too. I was sickly, skinny kid. I don’t remember if I could take a cold shower but I usually cough a lot at night and I had to wear jacket while sleeping.
I had severe problems with my tonsils, annual strep, and tonsil stones and discharge. Constantly had sore throat. Went to the doctor several times and had to eventually go to a different one to get a tonsillectomy, as the first doctor insisted ‘we don’t take those out anymore’. I’m so glad I did, I’ve been a lot healthier and felt better since.
Concerning the anxiety and depression question, our nervous system typically produces cortisol by the cortex of the adrenal gland. Cortisol is known to be a suppressant of our immune system. To some degree, it is given to patients of organ transplant to reduce the likelihood of organ rejection.
True! I didn't know the part about cortisol and organ transplant acceptance, so, thank you! Something else I have learned to read more about! 😊
There were a few questions that she really didn't answer but just restated the question. Like the macrophage thing,
Glad i wasn't the only one to think that. @nicolehallinen asked where the waste of a macrophage goes, but she just repeated what a macrophage is... Can anyone help? Does the macrophage break everything up into such tiny building parts that the cells can reuse it for whatever purpose they need?
@@davidzuercher I think it is the answer yes, it breaks things to building blocks, like amino acids so cells can use them. Nothing goes to waste. But I'm not an expert. There are different organalles in the cells which specified to do things, so there is a more elaborate answer probably.
@Selina Prince for the fever one I got the impression that she was assuming the person with the fever would take an antibiotic, antifungal, or antiviral, in which case the medication would do the job the immune system was using the fever to accomplish (yes, that's oversimplifying). But how often do we really take antivirals? I have never been prescribed one. Whenever it's a viral infection they typically tell you to eat healthy, stay hydrated, rest, and let your immune system handle it. So I'd definitely like an expanded answer on this one.
@@aynine3466 that's what I thought too but I have some background in biology that maybe the average person doesn't. She just needed to take the answer one step further to something along the lines of what you stated.
@@davidzuercher so the macrophage engulfs these waste and / or foreign particles, digests or breaks it down with the help of enzymes in lysosome and then the waste is assimilated to be removed. "thrown out" is maybe not the right term because the body absorbs a lot of useful components of it, rest may go to autophagosomes or exosomes which might degrade it further. it's more of a 'recycle' mechanism rather than a 'removal' mechanism because the wastes are used up by the body in one way or another
Always find great experts. Great video!
Love these! The specialists are always so passionate and likable!
So informative yet delivered in such simple understanding manner. Thank you Dr. Shruti Naik!
I love the way the doctor explains with analogies! So much easier to understand
LOVED this video. Give her a show!
8:13 so where does the waste go? This was an interesting question that did not get answered!
It goes back out to its surroundings and even present it on their body like a medal for other immune cells to see. That’s how they communicate with other immune cells to let them know of the infection, and to know what to look for.
The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
If it's not reused by the body, it's very likely eliminated like any other cellular waste
@@FJCDWHAT?? They can calcify?? Dang that's amazing
Yay for Dr Karl with the final question, an Aussie legend!
My tonsils were removed because they ruptured. My sister, a bit younger, had ruptured adenoids but out parents were convinced by the doctor that it was unnecessary. Decades later, she is still mad that she had to turn 18 to get a doctor to remove them. There's a midpoint in treatment, and I'd say a ruptured organ is definitely past that midpoint.
That doctor who recommended not removing them is a moron. I'd have gotten a second opinion that day.
8:13 I really wanted to know "specifically" what happened to the waste but she decided to explain what a microphage was instead... 6:21 I was also very curious about the impact of anxiety and stress on the immune system, but now I only know that it may cause inflammation - how? What impact does this type of inflammation have on the immune system? 12:26 Does treating the symptoms (such as a fever) without prescriptions prolong recovery? I don't want to pump my kids full of drugs every time they are sick, but I also don't want them to be miserable either...
Immunologist here.
1. The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
2. The endocrine system and the immune system are tightly correlated, anxiety changes the amounts of certain hormones that have a direct impact on the immune system readiness, one of this hormones, cortisol has a lot of effects on the immune system and during stress or depression can increase for example exacerbating autoimmune disease and the opposite happens during depression.
@@FJCD thank you for answering this, the lady in the video did not understand the assignment..
I dated a guy in his 30's who's parents would not have his tonsils out when he was younger. He kept getting yeast infections in his throat and ended up getting them removed at 35...
I see a common thread of comments here, people saying getting them removed improved their health.
My Tonsils were removed in the 80's. I didn't have recurring infections or any real issues. Our Doctor noticed they were enlarged and convinced my mother to have them removed.
I've just been diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder and so have been doing a lot of learning about the human immune system and my mind always reels at the complexity of that system 😵💫 its astounding and humbling to know all that is going on inside us
On the chicken soup question I do recall that there was a study done on the antiviral effects of various African traditional soups. They found that the ingredients separately didn't have much effect but once cooked together they actually had decent antiviral properties. Wish I remembered the name of the study
The study was comparing the _raw_ ingredients separately with the _cooked_ ingredients combined? That's easy to explain, though. Cooking causes significant chemical changes, most commonly releasing the nutrients in the food to make them more accessible.
@@Tzizenorec Still important to know it so that certain ingredients aren't touted as the one magic cure, right?
@@6Xyzzy But the study didn't confirm that one ingredient wasn't the whole cure. It only confirmed that one _raw_ ingredient wasn't the whole cure. The possibility remains that one ingredient, when cooked, becomes the whole cure.
I give "decent antiviral properties" no weight without a citation. you're in the realm of science, now
The source is the study published by Stephen Rennard. He did it on different recipes for chicken soup, as well as pureed vegetables or raw vegetables- and chicken broth does have anti-inflammatory properties, which does help with colds.
Edit: it doesn't necessarily mean it helps you recover faster or that you can go without medicine (if it becomes necessary). It just means that it does have an effect in making you feel better.
12:28 “The fever strategy may no longer be necessary.” Fever is still necessary because it does not just make the body inhospitable for infection, but it helps stimulate immune response. One example is the neutrophil recruitment to the site.
Yea, as a biologist, wasn’t a fan of her answer to that one.
I agree, I am an immunologist and microbiologist. The main reason we stop HIGH fevers quickly because a lot of pathogenic bacteria that have co-evolved with us have adapted to fever response. Good examples of this are Salmonella and E. coli who can grow at high temperatures without much problem.
Yeah, I generally go as long it’s below 102 I tough it out. Over 102 it’s time for Tylenol.
Some pathogens induce a hyper-inflammatory response or a cytokine storm that can be life-threatening. In such cases, tempering the immune system is the best way to help the infected individual. Often the pathogen is already well under control, but the immune system is still raging on, leading to inadvertent disease
@@TheBartgry I don’t understand how your argument about cytokine storm is related to the importance of fever to immune response or “no longer necessary” as argued in the video. Usually, I’d associate sepsis with cytokine storm, but there are also many other ways to cause it. That’s why I’m confused at the how it could relate to this one particular topic.
I've heard chicken soup is a staple because it often has vegetables, protein, and salt and fluids, all of which help replenish minerals and vitamins lost when you're ill/feverish/vomiting etc.
I had severe tonsillitis when I was a kid and was unable to eat solid foods for about 3 weeks. It actually ended up triggering the OCD I've now dealt with ever since. I can totally understand why people were encouraged to remove their children's tonsils if they saw other kids end up with illnesses like strep that really impacted quality of life. I didn't end up getting mine removed, but getting tonsilitis was a horrible experience.
PANDAS ( (Pediatric Autoimmune Neuropsychiatric Disorders Associated with Streptococcus) is a strep associated syndrome that has links with OCD. Can happen to adults too.
@@raithneach that's really interesting. I'd never had anyone tell me about that before. I'll have to look that up
I saw your comment and thought it could be helpful. The research seems to be in its infancy, but there are resources out there that could help you figure out if that is part of the picture. I hope it helps.
Before I got my tonsils taken out, I would get strep multiple times a year and I had sleep apnea. After I got them taken out, I rarely get sick, and sleep much better. Glad I got mine out
Thats literally what she said
All I can think about is the fact she the word Covid and wasn't "silenced". She didn't dance around it like others on this app. Also very educational, may never use this info but it was a good listen.
Anyone who has Lupus can tell you that stress can trigger an immune flare-up so yeah I'd surmise that your immune system and nervous system are at least interactive on some level.
its tru that a real intelligent person explains stuff very clearly that makes YOU feel intelligent instead of belittled
This was fascinating!! She explains things so clearly! Loved it.
3:45 Yes, there have actually been studies showing that chicken soups helps combating diseases.
I honestly am not mad my parents decided to have the ENT remove my tonsils and adenoids as a kid. I had massive issues and actually remember how sick I was on a regular basis before the surgery. Since then no strep and my sleep is a lot bigger and that's like 25 years ago. I definitely think some people could have avoided the surgery but for some of us it gives us quality of life back.
Some studies have actually found that chicken soups can help colds at least on a symptomatic level (not an immune resonse level) because of some of the proteins in the soup like the amino acid cystine which has been found to be a good way to thin and release mucus by decreasing the viscosity of the mucus, while other agents in the soup may have minor anti-inflamatory effects that help releve the swelling caused by upper respitory infections. Chicken soup is by no means a cold cure, it may help releve some of the more uncomfortable symptoms of a cold and make you feel less stuffy. More studies could certainly be done but eating chicken soup will not harm you, and may actually help with your cold symtoms.
I was kinda surprised when I heard that in America soups are mostly associated with the time when you're sick. For example in my country chiken (noodle) soup is just your average dish.
When I was a child I had tonsillitis two to three times a year, every year. Each time I got high fever, was barely able to swallow food and was sick for at least two weeks. Then my tonsils got removed and already the next year was the first winter where I wasn't sick a single time, not even a tiny flu. I've never been as sick again as I used to before I got them removed, so I don't regret that at all.
The chicken soup thing is interesting, because when I caught cold or flu, I had this sudden craving for any hot soup, be it Veggie soups or even instant noodle soups (which is the opposite of healthy lol). Maybe it's just the body wanting anything warm to enter the system, idk?
I think it's more likely to be the nutrients. Soups tend to have a lot of nutrients, in a relatively easy-to-digest form (already dissolved in water; can't get much easier to digest than that).
As for craving unhealthy soups... well... sometimes it takes your body a while to figure out that those aren't nutritious, when they superficially resemble something nutritious.
@@Tzizenorec exactly. It's very easy to drop the ball in terms of nutrition when we're sick, despite this being the time we should be especially concerned with it. Soup is the ultimate choice to stay well nourished and hydrated without much effort and is easy to consume even if our appetite is gone. And the cherry on top is that its delish :)
The unhealthy concern with Ramen (specifically) is the salt content... Which IS a bit over-loaded for a healthy human adult...
However, when you're sick, you may be "pushing fluids" like the doc's tell you and all... BUT for every glass of water, your salt content GOES DOWN... It's very possible that you craved the "unhealthy over-salted soup" because your sodium levels had dropped and you actually NEEDED it...
It's important as a human that we put forth the energy to MAKE informed and concerned decisions for ourselves... It might be important to be careful how much of the "unhealthy instant stuff" you eat in general, EVEN when you're sick, but it's also worth relaxing a little for when you're sick. How much salt did you eat compared to normally???
I get sick and my diet can turn almost 90% liquid, especially with a flu, or stomach bug... Anything else is just nauseating... BUT if I'm not careful my sodium value drops off, and I can get even worse without dipping into the instant soups and other "unhealthy sodium sources" a little bit... ;o)
People cease it because they associate it with two things: water and salt. Both of which you need in abundance when sick. Your body NEEDS salt. It's one of the more important, and most basic, of the electrolytes your body needs to function properly. Everything gets thrown off when you're sick, especially if everything is coming out either end rather voraciously. You need water, but you need salts as well. Without it, you'll just flush any nutrients you get out of your body and you'll make yourself sicker. That's why drinking too much water is actually super unhealthy for you.
Well you can't say you don't know you need to know
I was a kid of the 70s. I can remember how getting your tonsils out was such a thing. It wasn't that uncommon for other kids to ask if your tonsils have been removed yet, that they've had theirs removed etc. I never did.
8:51 okay but where does the “waste” go…
It is recycled to make new cells
The waste is destroyed by enzymmes and recycled if they are made of organic matter, like protein. In fact this process is important for immunological memory acquisition. The stuff macrophages cannot destroy or are too large are perpetually enclosed by macrophages and isolated and with can with time calcify. Good example of this last processes are tattoos and calcified fetuses (lithopaedion)
Sweat, saliva, your bodily functions, exhaled breath, etc.
At 1:26 The tonsilis were never extracted when inflamed and have visible infection on. There was first treated with antibiotics and when the infection were gone than the operation was carried out.
We need a second part only for autoinmune deseases
I love this person! You can tell she is passionate about her career! You can see her smiling and talking about immunology like someone talking about their favorite movie or video game. 😊
So grandma couldn’t prove she didn't scam me by making me have all the leftover chicken soup when I was 8 and sick...?
I had my tonsils removed as a kid because I was getting ear and throat infections every couple weeks. As soon as my tonsils were out I never had that problem again. Weeks of heath that turned into months between sniffles let alone big infections. I’m still extremely susceptible to bronchitis and lung and head cold kinda stuff. And Covid was brutal each time I got it. But nothing like I was before I got my tonsils removed. Best medical decision my parents ever made.
There actually have been chicken soup studies, the help it gives is through cysteine which helps with processing mucous.
I feel like it should have been said that a chicken noodle soup will give you salt, it has protein that is easily consumed and a warm liquid will often provide relief when you are sick.
this was such a great set of questions! thanks 😊😊
I had tonsillitis about 200-300 days a year for 3 years. ages 9 to 12. got them out on my 12th birthday and i have not missed them one bit.
I have two autoimmune diseases one being rare so I find this very informative 😊
If you don’t mind, what are they?
@@salifusadat3002 well one is type 1 diabetes and the other is a rare disease called Behcets Syndrome
How dare she say powerhouse when talking about cells, but not bring up the mitochondria
When you are stressed
Our Adrenal Gland (specifically the cortex of it) respond to this stress with a secretion process of a hormone called Cortisol (also other hormones but basically this one) which is called the stress hormone, and actually have an anti inflammatory feature which leads to a more suppressed immune system leading to more infections and diseases
I love how animated and passionate she is about her topic. Moooom, I love her!
Thank you, we need more of this.
If everyone is going to be an armchair doctor these days then I hope they at least watched a few vids like these 😂
1:14, that still happens in Kitimat-Stikine.
That was quite informative. Thank you.
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She prepared pictures 🥺
Thank you Dr. Shruti
So, with the last question about catching the same infection twice, and how fast you can get over it, I would like to share a story about it.
One year, despite getting the shot for it, I still got the flu. But because I got the shot before hand, I didn't get the flu as bad as I would have, had I not gotten it.
Simple story to show that getting your vaccines is typically (because some people legitimately can't)
better than not getting them at all.
I don’t think there is a specific time frame. My good friend got covid, 7 days later he was cured, and literally 4 days later was reinfected for another week.
This assumes the virus you were infected with was in the flu shot. When I say in the flu shot, I mean an attenuated virus. You may have cleared the virus because the virus was easy to clear or because you had a previous infection. In any event, getting the shot does help with community transmission and reduces the impact on everyone. Those with autoimmune issues should always get the shot, although I know people who do not. This falls into the "play silly games and win silly prizes" category.
I'm so glad at how she phrased the response to the last question. So many people don't understand there's a difference between having a disease/being sick, having problematic levels of a pathogen in their system, and having trace amounts of it. Your body even carries things that could cause serious disease if the number ever gets out of control or they get into the wrong organ, but they carry on in. happy symbiosis when that doesn't happen. As for the question right before it, I am pro medicine but I know that antibiotics can be overused, so I was always told to go ahead an let the fever do it's job unless it gets too high or goes on for too long.
Wow she’s brilliant! I love these series ❤
Tonsils, I have 3 sisters, my 2 older sisters had theirs removed at age 4. I had severe tonsillitis 2x a year but drsxwere on a kick that tonsils were good. Then my 8 yr younger sister had hers out at age 7. It wasn't until my 45th bday did I stop having tonsillitis 2x a year. So it is strange to see the switching in the 60s and 70s about tonsil removal, within one family!
As much as i enjoy most of the people on these support videos, and she certainly does say a lot, she never really answers quite a few of the questions. She explains some of the question but at the end the answer is left unfulfilled.
@@oliviaw.2842 Why would she recommend food to you when she clearly stated that garlic, lemon, etc have no proven studies to improve immune health?
@@oliviaw.2842 But that's exactly what she said. She said she only takes medicine (so she doesn't have food recommendations since all of them are "natural remedies") and she said there have been no studies showing chicken broth helps with sickness (so essentially "we don't know").
true,, like geez girl can u get to the point instead of complimenting the question or saying answers around the bush leaving something behind? xd
Same
She did answer them. You just need to listen and use your brain.
Good video and information although I disagree with the tonsil question answer at 1:00. Parents were not "gullible", they were doing their best with the information and medical consensus available at the time. The medical field has evolved and we now know more through research.
Agree! A Dr advised it and preformed the surgery. The parents did what the medical professional recommended.
When i was little i used get sick a lot until my kindergarten teacher told my mom to let me play on the dirt without shoes. im surprised that this is being said by drs until now
I like being barefoot.
It's also important to say that the example for diabetes being an autoimmune disease is correct only for Type I diabetes and not for the more prevalent Type II. Type II is much more influenced by the lifestyle of people (eating bad and leading a sedentary lifestyle)!
Can’t wait for immune support 2 👍
1:30 - Tonsillitis is when your tonsils are infected. Tonsillectomy is when you remove them.
-itis: inflammatory disease.
-ectomy: surgical removal.
Watching this to prepare myself emotionally for immunology. I've learned a little about immunology for an internship so the question about how the immune system works made me laugh because it's soooooo complicated.
Hey, I feel you - Immunology was easily the hardest class I took for my B.S. I did better in Anatomy and Physiology, but those are kind of my thing. I had an especially hard time in Immunology because my teacher was kinda mean/detached. I hope you have a great experience and you are doing a good thing prepping IN ADVANCE - there’s nothing like going in feeling prepared and it really gives you a boost to be a little ahead of the introductory topics. Best wishes to your academic future!
It seems I have an interest for the more complex subjects. In uni I took a neuro-psychopharmacology course for fun. Yes, fun. I couldn't pass up the opportunity to learn. Even the Psy majors who were required to take it looked at me like I was crazy for saying that 😅 And I find immunology fascinating too.
They say we have a liqued brain in our blood
"The fever strategy may no longer be necessary" - that, is a dangerous approach. There needs to be a line drawn in terms of when we use antibiotics and when we let our own immune system deal with the problem.
I remember reading somewhere that the bromide salts in chicken broth MAY help thin mucus secretions when you're sick, so that you can cough more productively?
Maybe?
Great job, but one small unfortunate thing is that she didn't answer the question about macrophages. She mentioned their job in the body, but didn't get to the part of answering the actual question, which was "where does the waste go?"
She was kinda vague with her answers. Like when asked how our immune system works, she didn't elaborate on how it works. She just repeated the analogy the user made.
Because the immune system is insanely complicated, she would have to spend this entire video+ another multiple videos to even remotely explain it.
Took an immunology course and can confirm....it's extremely complicated.
Great guest. She's so smart and articulate! Love her. Thank you!
one of my friends gets antibiotic resistant tonsil infections at least twice a year for WEEKS (sometimes even a few months) at a time, and thats been happening since she was born basically, and this year at the age of 18 theyre removing her tonsils bc shes TIRED lol
Enlarged tonsils can cause sleep apnea so it will probably help.
So great, detailed answers, insightful!
Tonsils are the devil. Had mine removed at 28 and it changed my life. Got rid of my halitosis (thanks tonsiliths) and got rid of my sleep apnea. School would have been so different if I had them removed as a kid.
Edit: also, chicken noodle soup is good for colds because of the massive amount of electrolytes, which you are most likely needing to replenish due to the sickness.
You’re right. I got my tonsils removed around 7/8 years old. Before that I was a sickly, skinny kid. Yes It made halitosis, sleep apnea, fever, cough, difficult to eat hard food, sore throat, etc. I became a healthier kid after the surgery.
Please can you do Neurologist Answers Questions About Epilepsy as a video?
Would love to hear more about taking vitamin C, zinc, etc. when you’re sick and if it actually does anything. I’ve heard for the most part you just pee out the excess but I still take certain things when I feel a cold coming on because I figure it’s worth a shot😂
It is helpful to get enough vitamins and metals when you get sick because they help your cells perform important reactions. When you’re sick, you may use more than the recommended daily dose as the dose is calculated based on a healthy person.
Vitamin C and other water-soluble vitamins are safe at high doses because you just pee out whatever your body doesn’t use. In the case of fat-soluble vitamins (K, A, D, and E) and iron, it is important to follow the recommended doses because they can be toxic in excess.
When my mom got covid she was really sick. I ordered black seeds supplements with zinc, vitamin D3+K2 and C and she recovered/improved within hours. She took them in the morning and by dinner time she was her usual self, her sinuses opened up and coughing stopped. Pharmaceuticals can help if your natural body is healthy. If your cells and immune system are compromised, the medicine is sometimes ineffective or makes it worse.
@@yintotheyang6433 what are
Black Seeds??
@@yourturn777 they’re like sesame but black in colour. Also known as nigella
What I’ve heard on channels like this one is essentially that your body only uses the amount of each nutrient it needs and pees out the rest, BUT often times we are deficient in certain nutrients, especially when we are sick, and so taking those supplements can help replenish the supply your body needs to function optimally. That said, if you aren’t deficient then taking the supplements isn’t actually going to do anything.
Chicken soup help, but mostly when its made like the old days - with the bones and skin. That way you get collagen and important amino acids like proline and glycine.
I think the question about fever was poorly answered. Does it or does it not prolong the recovery?
lol basically she and/or nobody have a definitive answer about it wit the way she answered it.
I agree, I am an immunologist and microbiologist. Although we have now great antibiotics that make fever seem unnecessary, she did not mention that inflammation, including fever, cause great damage to you body, so stopping it before it goes out of control and kills you is sometimes necessary. But the main reason we stop HIGH fevers quickly is because a lot of pathogenic bacteria that have co-evolved with us have adapted to fever response a long many other weapons our immune system have. A good example of this is Salmonella who can grow at high temperatures.
Forgot to mention that some bacteria even trigger fever to eliminate competition (good bacteria) and make it easier to invade your body. Also, viruses are mostly undisturbed by fever. Fever does increase the effectiveness of antibodies for example. So like everything in biology, it is complicated.
Excellent Video Dr Naik! So much misinformation on the internet so Thank You for this!
You know you've made it when Dr Karl is asking you for help.
I like this video, the only answer I’d push back on is the one about chicken soup and natural remedies. The reason is most foods have been studied enough to know the chemical breakdown. This means that a scientist can say, with accuracy, the effectiveness of chicken soup or other things against X disease or deficiency.
On the natural remedies question, i'm with Dara Obriain when he said of herbal medicine "we tested it, found out what works and called it medicine".
totally agree, she is just dumb and stupid on top of being judgmental and believing she is too good to be using natural medicine even though they have a natural medicine origin
Thank you for such a nice and informative video! She was amazing at explaining a very complicated system in a simple way.
It's great to see a present-day Immunologist teaching that which we old timers learned in high school, this information has been out there for all to learn for many years. My knowledge of this aspect of life saved my life when fighting cancer. My Oncologist worked with me and together we defeated an aggressive cancer few have survived; I was the second to survive my prognosis in his 45 years of practice. I wish our education system was doing a better job of helping people face reality and not conjecture.
Sounds like you just got lucky
Bruh, why do you need to make everything about your cancer!!!
Which times? I want you to look at the age of the main proponents of homeopathic medicine.
@@josemv25 You have that right. Thankfully, I had a high school biology teacher taught us to eat dirt, he said it would keep our immune system strong, and he was right.
@@Michael-Oh The conversation was about the immune system. Just sharing how a strong immune system can save a life, without it I would have died in 3 to 4 months, go figure.
Well, I got mine out in the 1990s and it helped enormously with the unending string of illness.