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I worked for SBCOFD. I started in the late 70's and retired at the end of 2010. What you see here was not always the case. We were always an aggressive firefighting organization. Sometimes we didn't communicate as effectively as we could have. However, we progressed nicely to what you see today. It takes effort and lots of training to change not necessarily bad habits, maybe more misdirected habits into good tactics and strategy along with sound fireground management. I see comparisons by the comments here to several different departments, saying one is better than the other. In my opinion, you don't make yourself any better by denigrating what others do. All departments have unique challenges that they try their best to confront in as safe and logical way as they can. Just learn what you can from these types of videos and if you think you can do better, go out and teach everyone what you would like them to know.
Dream department for me.
Watching LAFD and NYFD videos, I see two diferent cultures. I also see, different challenges.
NYC is full of closely built, archaic buildings over two stories all over the city.
In LA, buildings over two stories are generally centralized commercial structures in DTLA .
Houses tend to be one to two stories, though some houses, like the that used to belong to my grandparents are two, though are equivalent to three.
Frankly, at the risk of getting hate from my Left Coast family, (jk) I think NYFD is superior to LAFD.
If LAFD dealt with fires like LAPD used to deal with thugs, I think they'd do a lot better.
Were you on the Panorama fire??
I was just a very young kid but lived in Big Bear when that fire occured
I remember all the photos in the Sun paper and the photos of firefighters eating Thanksgiving dinner on the fire line
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470Each department is unique in their own way
LAFD also deals with wildland fire
structure fires are in a box so to speak
Brush fires are not in a box and have a potential to become really big really fast a good example is the oak fire burning in Mariposa County in Northern California those kind of fires happen down in Southern California too living here in Southern California I'm very impressed with how LAFD and LA County Fire and all the other Southern California fire departments and the State Fire Department Cal Fire fight these Wildland fires
Positive çn..nn. Sounds like you got things working better by strategically identifying an d finding any/ all.weak points.and settine5f
I just got accepted into the Dallas fire academy and I just wanted to say thank you much. Your videos helped me tremendously, from the basic civil exam through the interview and polygraph. I cannot thank you enough and recommend your content to others enough 👏
Yo congrats! I’m currently applying for Richardson and Garland. Any tips ?
Congrats !
Congratulations man, you've just got your foot in the door to the greatest job in the world
Do yourself a favor and don’t listen to the Hit it Hard from yard pansies.
@@cliftonsuberHe won't be doing any firefighting anytime soon in Dallas. He will be on an ambulance for years before he gets any engine time.
I'm retired now from Unified Fire Authority in Salt Lake, from my perspective this crew looked almost like they were on a training evolution. Calm voices on the radio, efficient work from the crew while the Cap was doing his walk-around, yeah these guys have it down cold. The initial size up and the report on the 360 was all stellar. I actually listened with my eyes closed and I could understand exactly what was going on, which means the other units responding could, too. A+ in my book!
Hi Bruce, I put my first bunker gear on in 1978. At seventy-one, I still volunteer with our local VFD. I don't usually wear a mask, but I will, if needed. I guess I'm writing to say, if you can, volunteer your experience. I'm sure your local department would appreciate it. Thanks.
SBCoFD, as well as other West Coast departments, have their acts together.
Stockton Fire Department is another with an active UA-cam and real good tactics.
No fog nails or euro fire fighting lameness
I just got accepted into the Houston fire academy. Thank you for all the tips for interviewing they really helped. I love the videos and continue to be the online teacher for new and current firemen.
Having limitied knowledge about the firefighter profession, this in depth breakdown is awesome. I knew there were procedures and strategies but i never knew they were this intricate. These review/breakdowns really gives me a whole new appreciation for your profession.
As a firemen in the Bronx. I noticed how calm he was. 360 is impossible in The Bronx. Buildings are connected for a Whole Nyc block
Thanks for everything you do. Please be careful in these dangerous times. FJB
Very good review of this. As a veteran firefighter I can say I wish this happened all the time but it doesn't at least around my area. I have been a firefighter for 40 years and lots have changed most for the good size up's and 360 are some of the best. I took a class of lessons learned and a local chief gave a perfect example of how we get complacent they had a single family home with moderate smoke from gable end window he assumed fire in second floor did not do 360 sent crew second floor to attack crew advised high heat the chief finally walked around back and found fire shooting out a kitchen window. His crew began backing out do to heat when things got bad they made it out little warm and a good lesson learned don't get complacent it can kill you or your crew be safe from an old guy that's been around a while
John 😒
Well said, from another old firefighter.
my grandpa was a captain I loved going to visit him at the fire department (aside from him yelling at me for touching the pole lol 😂) but these videos are fun for me and him to watch he just turned 90 this year and it gives me and him some amazing bonding time and gives him an opportunity to tell me lots and lots of stories… thank you for helping me and my grandpa create wonderful memories youre appreciated and thank you to all firefighters for risking your lives on a daily basis to protect others… youre all true heros!
Firefighters are Angels without wings! I was saved by those Angels from a house fire. Hero's every one of them!
This first arriving officer did a great job with size up and initial report. Just as important is the second arriving officer establishing command. That relieves the first officer a lot of command decisions and provides later arriving units with direction related to exposure protection, search, fire attack.
That sounds great but what sounds better to the homeowner, any victims and the entering fire fighters is, "Pull a hose and get tank water on all that burning material Now!" That is what firefighting is, first and foremost. The rest useless and qat best secondary information if you allow the fire to grow and spread while you go through your High-Tech Sounding check list. That is what is wrong with USA firefighting. They have made it so complicated while they have forgotten the prime reason they are there. "Stop The Threat by eliminating combustion."
Thank you for your professional insight from a firefighter's perspective. I only learned about the A,B,C,D sides of structure a few years ago. It's important that all firefighters use same terminology. When doing a 360 and if the C side needs immediate attack, they know to go to back of structure. The calmness in the voices of first responders really helps everyone focus on what is important and what isn't.
They use that terminology to sound High Tech, not to get the job done better with clear and concise communication. How does converting the sides, which everyone learned how to reference in grade school, to A, B, C and D, side going to improve communication? They have to take what they already know, which Everybody knows, and convert it to a completely different language which everybody has to stop and think about before they can act. You really should ask that question before you just follow them, just because it makes you feel high teach too.
Not a firefighter, but this is just plain interesting info. Nice to learn a little about how you guys do your jobs. Thanks to all of you for your work.
Good scene size up and clear communication. I enjoy your vids as it
never get old to see how the job varies across the country. I’m Dist Chief with Baton Rouge and this Friday 7/29/22 is my last day on the job. Not officially retired until Aug 19…. But Friday is last day to put on the uniform. It is bittersweet and I will miss it and the guys dearly. Stay safe and train like your life depends on it!
Any call for instructors or outreach in your area?
Great points about that 360 survey. One story (large busy system I won't name) was an apartment response. First Due went to work on the Fire building upon arrival. Later responders saw that several buildings were involved. What happens prior to Arrival is just the way things are. What happens when we get there is up to us.
Thank you for your awesome vids, I just received my final offer for employment with a career fire dpt near Seattle, Washington. I watched all of your interview prep videos and it really helped me a lot during the process. I start in September!
Just got accepted today start training in 2 weeks thank you for you’re help with the interview videos 🙏be blessed
calm and collected comm over the radio comes with EXPERINCE on the fire ground - i see (and hear) new officers scream over the radio or show anxiety over the radio because we do not have fires as often as we used to (talking 10 plus years ago) - myself included have made mistakes over radio comm because it is TOTALLY DIFFERENT when practicing - practice helps, but the adrenaline kicks in when you face a "job" - this guy i bet has several first in fires under his belt - excellent example and thanks for the analysis
lol at the neighbour standing there with a hose spraying water into the house. BEST neighbour ever. 4:18
Very well handled by all parties. Personally Im paranoid about fire in my apartment so I have a powder fire extinguisher in every room, a carbon dioxide extinguisher in the hall way, and an automatic fire extinguisher ball in the spare room. Great work by the fire service, and I would personally hire that dude to be my neighbour. I hope everyone got an award for this.
"When everyone else runs out, YOU GUYS run in"! My respect to every man and woman who serves there fellow citizen.
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Information is of the utmost importance. Unfortunately many departments will have an arrival like this, however on the other hand they will fail to notify the remaining whether or not they can slow the response.
To me this is important communication.
Trying to become a firefighter myself and honestly your channel is the best one on youtube very informative! thank you and keep it up.
I just got done watching your other latest video when I got a notification for this one 😁 Thanks!
Great to see the right way to do it. In my country we get trained to do this in college. But as soon as you enter the working world it is not practiced. You get laughed at and they think you are too serious and gung ho about the job if you try being according to the book. Lots of respect for these True professionals like Mike and these guys over at San BernadinoFD!
That’s a common problem but it can be changed. You and your generation will, in 10 years, be the lieutenants and captains and the culture will change. Speaking from experience here.
Do they teach you that the first thing you do is find what's burning and put tank water on it?
This vid is so perfect, just like the performance of the responder.
My local department it's now at the Victorville City fire department they're no longer under San Bernardino but still great department man they get stuff done
can you review stockton fire ? they are very aggressive and work right on scene.
Yeah I'd love to see his thoughts on them and Newark Fire. Even as a non-FF I have mad respect for both of them. One of the best fire videos I've seen is BC Decker's of the mobile home fire. The first unit on scene was a medic that immediately suited up and did their best to VES for victims while waiting for a line. When the first fire unit arrived they had water on the fire 47 seconds later. A second line was in operation 30 seconds after that. A LOT of departments could learn a lot from the Newark and Stockton FDs.
@@LtKernelPanic Right on! 👍👍Stockton is the bomb!
Stockton has to be one of the best firefighters I've seen.
Bingo. Good assessment. Also, see David Decker's (Fire Chief in Newark, Ohio) videos. Clear, accurate, no-nonsense scene assessments and allocation of resources.
My favorite, although a little out of date - from the Dallas FD in the 1980's, "Advise next in engine, pull your boots up and bring your water with you". Obviously, from the days when you wore long boots instead of bunker pants and drivers boots.
I've seen a department lose a house and garage because they approached from the A/B corner when the fire was a dumpster fire beside D. No 360. The Approaching FF's started the attack without a plan. They were just spraying and praying. Some were even throwing pikes like javelins in an attempt to vent the second floor within literal seconds of the engine arriving. There was zero smoke coming from the home but it was blowing past the home. They lost the entire home, literally burnt to the ground, because of no performed 360. Home was also on a corner lot.
I think the initial size up should include the availability of the hydrant in front of the structure. Incoming units will then know they are not responsible for laying a supply line to the attack apparatus and should report directly to the scene. If this information is delayed until the 360 is conducted, a second unit arriving soon after the first, may begin laying a supply line (knowing there is a working fire from the size up) but without the knowledge there is a hydrant at the scene that can be used by the attack apparatus. Also, don't breathe any smoke, inside the structure or outside!
Just for information purposes, they are following bluecard. Or something similar. What this means is all other arriving engines stage and wait for instruction so no one will be laying line or anything. What usually happens is the IC will call.for the next.engine after the 360 to get a water source or they will say where it is at.
@@drizzt3252 My department uses an assignment by arrival sequence SOP. The first arriving engine and truck report to the scene. The second arriving engine is responsible for water supply. If the need for a water supply has not been established in the size up, the second arriving engine stages at a hydrant and waits for instructions to either lay a line or report to the scene. By announcing there is a water supply at the scene, the BC knows he has the resources of the second on engine for other purposes should the situation dictate. The whole thing is fluid, meaning if manpower was critical for something like occupants needing medical treatment, the second engine would be reporting to the scene and the supply line could be delegated to the third arriving engine for example.
That was almost textbook like. Very well done.
I wish you showed more about how they fought the fire which way and where they pushed out . This was just a size up.
your instructional/informational videos are the best, very good !!
It would be cool to see a video on how size-up and the 360 differs for apartment buildings and how it changes with the features of the building such as 3-5 stories low and wide no elevator vs 20+ stories with elevator, and how Alpha-Delta referring to sides changes for L-shaped or C-shaped buildings.
“A” side is usually the first side facing the street, then you work clockwise around the structure.
It would be cool to see an instructional video showing how to quickly and safely stop combustion while opening widows for horizontal ventilation. Do you know why you would be hard pressed to find even one? It's because putting out the fire isn't any fun. Don't doubt that for one second.
I don't know. I work in an urban area in NJ. We aren't doing 360s, we are stretching a line and going in if I'm on the pumper
Nice work. Great commentary.
Do fire fighters wear Nomex protective clothing under their turnout gear? The question is one of general interest. You can see fire fighters donning hoods prior to putting on their breathing equipment. But, are they wearing Nomex uniforms?
If you watch race car drivers suit up they wear what looks like long underwear. This long underwear is made of Nomex, or equivalent, fire resistant material.
To my knowledge most refinery workers wear Nomex boiler suits when working in refinery hazardous areas. It would seem logical that firemen wear garments under their turnout gear that is fire resistant.
This department has Nomex uniforms.
Another good point is he took the TIC with him. Didn't need it this time, but should always be a part of your size up tool box.
I didn't read all the comments, but I read a lot of them. Not one person commented on what the single most important job is. All they talked about is all the stuff off the fire department onsite checklist. What is the first thing that should have been done the moment the wheels stopped? This isn't for Mike; this is for all the commentors.
Here is the FIRST thing you do at any fire. "Find what's burning and put Tank Water on it while using the quickest and most effective water applicator you have." While eliminating the threat is going on, a window venting crew is working with the nozzle person to remove the heat, smoke and water vapor while gaining access to more burning material. While Doing Their Primary JOB is going on, another FFer should do a 360. Not the IC but another FFer. The IC needs to be front and center directing the attack while gaining additional information from the 360.
That should be the focus of attention at every fire. Eliminate the obvious threat while searching for additional threats while someone takes a look around the perimeter.
Just taking a moment to thank you for your hard work.
Another great thing is dispatch response in repeating what was said it drives me up the wall when all I get back is a 10-4 back
Scene size up= painting the picture
Big difference here compared to a house fire in Houston, Tx. posted today by another channel . The difference is light and day with Houston fire department.
I could imagine a new job role of “drone pilot/engineer”. Truck pulls up and pop a drone. At least for larger fires it could make the 360 assessment faster. And for multistory fires and roof assessment.
A rookie soaking in advice and knowledge.👏
Get all you can young man…. attend as many classes you can, and never turn down opportunities to attend classroom conferences with speakers from all over.. There is invaluable info and knowledge to be gained! Get all the certifications you can get as well.
The first time I did a size up and 360 after the fire the battalion chief came up and said you did a good job with the info but next time don’t sound so damn happy. Remember someone’s home is being destroyed.
I am watching from Elmira NY Elmira fire department and West Elmira volunteer fire department do the same thing when the arrive on schene
This Was An Excellent Video With A1 Information…Several Thumbs 👍 Up!
Another great video and commentary. I appreciate how you explain and breakdown what is going on.
I appreciate that!
@@mike_pertz which is worse for your long term health sucture firefighting or wildland firefighting?
Look all that brand new hose!!!
Man I have put out house fire like that with a booster with less then 500 gallons. There are videos people did when I was actually but myself knocking it down.
Occupied or vacant? Building construction? Exposure on the "D" side, Yes, but do we have communication?
Food for thought on your initial size up and radio report.
Loves these !! Keep these coming !
Thanks a lot for your channel. I am happy to say I am currently going through a career fire academy. I know fire academies are different throughout the Untied States but please come prepared. I arrived running 1.5 miles in 9 minutes, 25 pull ups (strict dead hang), 51 push ups, and 78 sit ups. I am still getting my butt handed to me. Please go prepared to a fire academy.
Hi Sam Hope everything is going well in your training. The journey is just beginning. I envy you, Captain. Only two months to go. Be careful. Please don't risk your life, for a building they will tear down soon after the fire. Semper Fi Marine
@@grumpycat4584 Grumpy! It’s good to hear from you. Miss you on the Scuttlebutt. Two more months!
@@LtActionCam I would love to attend your graduation. Semper Fi young man.
Not a firefighter. But this info was great. It's good knowledge for everyone.
Where’s the link of the original video???
You mentioned that on a massive commercial fire that a 360 might not be able to be done. I disagree. It's might even be more of a size up imperative than the single room and contents fire extending prior to the arrival of the first due. I can think back on several commercial fires that "I did a lap" around the entire perimeter of the structure, reporting whatever I saw back to Command. It's not stating the obvious, it's relaying information about possible fire spread, a malfunctioning private fire protection system or a perfectly operating one that needs to be pumped into, "supported", or looking for a possible collapse setting itself up from loss of structural integrity from a fire burning much longer before being detected. The first one I was ordered to take a lap around the building was one that had suffered a metal wall blown out from an explosion in a chemical plant, late 1970s or early 1980s. A welder caused a boo boo. Though very little fire, it needed to be seen from a 360. By the time I got back to the front of that particular part of the main building, the first due Ladder had access via the aerial into the fire area and were extinguishing what was left and the welder was already at ground level and relatively unharmed. Ironically, the last fire I responded to from that same station years years later, ( I was being transferred after nearly eleven years there.) was to the same complex, in another functional area of a massive chemical plant. Again, I did a slow roll 360 from inside the cab of the second due pumper relaying information as I saw it. Copious amounts of black smoke from a single point source fire around a high pressure pump was being handled by a 2-1/2 handline from the first due. Once the plant personnel shut off the electric power to kill the pump, the fire went out. We stayed on the handline until the temperature dropped below the ignition point of the exothermic reaction occurring in the process piping. Your information about the fire in the video is excellent. It's always worth the effort to get someone to get the entire 360 view as this video showed. It might be a good check off box for ALL fire incidents where there is fire showing upon arrival. It's just a minute or more to get the big picture to the Incident Commander. It could save lives as well as property. It can definitely help with the seemingly well coordinated attack as tactics can be shaped by the knowledge. Thanks again for the excellent information being conveyed by your videos. It keeps my faith and hope strong in our modern fire service, no matter where, no matter when, no matter what.
You can see the hose has pressure on it so why wait to use it?
Even though I'm from England. These videos are very very helpful. We do things very differently also. But to be able to see good attitudes and seeing what other brigades value is so important. It annoys me that we don't take what other brigades do the best and just combine them. It's like everyone is trying to invent the wheel.
As a rather inexperienced fire fighter from Germany I love your analysis. A lot to learn.
Also, I really like this alpha beta ... concept, wish we were using something similar here.
Lucas
Viel glück!
@Lucas … well, here’s your chance. Start sharing this video, along with other videos from this channel. A lot of what you see and hear is being shared with firefighters and their officers. Explain the confidence that is provided with good information, and that repetition is necessary to achieve competence. One of the key statements made early on … he was calm and clear; not yelling into the radio. The analogy I used in training was “When the garbage truck crew coms around the corner, they don’t scream and yell when they see trash cans lined down the street. They get to work, quickly and effectively removing the trash. Firefighters need to understand that while their job is exciting, you can perform better if you stay in control.”
After 40 years in the fire service, recently retiring as Fire Chief, I can tell you that this is all good information. Good luck!
Agreed with all comments. Well executed. I do not know that dispatch or other early due units acknowledged 360 and size-up??
❤Thank you for your service❤
That was a great size up. Made my last first due WF size up to shame
"...it looks like this is an older neighborhood, the power lines are above ground...." Damn y'all really be living that good life on the west coast. I wish we had more underground lines here in New England.
San Bernardino?? Nice, getting closer to the Stockton FD. You'll review one of their videos soon enough!
Not sure if you ever heard about them but SMFR is huge on UA-cam so make sure to lookem up if you haven’t heard of them
Lucas 😵💫
So this is slicers just in a different order correct?
Nice, only thing is basement or no basement on the 360
Very rare to have basements here in So Cal
The only thing I see wrong was bad placement of that first truck I would of left the A side open for a ladder truck cause B side had power lines didn't look like A side did .
Love your show thank you !!!!I believe the firemen are to fight fire and once you do the job it makes us happy have the equipment, the training the willing so yeah thank you so very much!!!!!🤫
True that he noted everything clearly, and what to expect. But there is always someone or company that doesn't get the message. But hopefully that not as bad as it was.
These videos are golden.
Do you have any complete videos? You know from beginning to completion? It's far more interesting.
What a perfectly placed hydrant
That's how we roll.... that's why California Firefighters are the BEST all risk Period.
Everytime I hear this guy talk about doing a 360, I get flashbacks to MLG montages
The volunteer firefighter showed up to work to climb the ladder truck and do a 360 off the end to land a wet noscope
Can you do a video of the fire department I’m currently volunteering for I’m volunteering for the Stockton fire department in California they have a channel
Maybe they should do training in Indiana there seems to be entirely too many families dying in suspicious fires in that area
I'm wanting to join my local fire department so bad but I'm just waiting to hear back from them
Don't isolate opportunities.
Apply anywhere you think you would like to work.
More tests equals more experience at taking them.
And start (if you're not already) getting in shape. Do not wait for your notice to perform the physical agility test.
Good luck.
How will other apparatus tag onto that hydrant when the first crew did not get a gate on it ?
In that town the hydrants are about 250' apart. If there was need for an additional hydrant, they would tap another one. But that one will put out 1000 gpm and the pump is 1500 gpm, so not very likely.
Best way to fight fires is to not allow them to get out of hand in the first place and to have fire extinguishers and fully charged phones nearby to use just in case.
Great video. Very useful!
Very professional
First let me say that I in no way am saying my Dept does it right, or better than others, or worse than others. I am just commenting on a comment you made. On our Dept (4 stations, 3 Engines, two are rescue engines, and 1 quint. I straight ladder, and 5 ambulances) on shift we have 4 assigned to engines and quint, 4 assigned to ladder, and 2 assigned to each EC (ambulances) we also have 1 Batt Chief and 1 EMS/Rescue MAJ. You talked about large commercial fires, when we respond to alarm or call in at a large occupancy, the BC responds to Aside, and assumes primary command there, and does a 180 in his vehicle, of course if he needs to get out he does. Then the Rescue MAJ responds to C side and he does a 180 as well from his vehicle. Then he reports that to command. The second side they check (either B or D) is dependent on preplan so it could vary. Great video though.
I thought you were going to say go inside and put fires out.
Do you ever watch critique UK fire service? Totally different approach would be interested to get your opinion
Outstanding!!!!
Awesome stuff
Solid, only thing we add is basement or no basement, if so what type of basement
Very rare to have basements here in So Cal
@@BDCSam 👌🏽👌🏽🤙🏽
While doing the 360 no water was put into fire window..
important to know the difference between giving all the information and talking too much. interestingly, there is a trend that the person in the department with the worst radio habits teaches the recruits how to use the radio.
most efficient size up I've heard: "first due on scene, go straight to third alarm."
As a younger firefighter, I appreciate the examples on what to do. We're a rural department and you never know who is going to be 1st on scene. And the rookies or young guys aren't usually taught such things
I recently retired from a volunteer fire dept, as the Fire Chief. After 40 years, it was time. All of our folks drive the engine on a first come, first served basis. They’re all trained in ICS and how to conduct, and relay, a good 360 size up report. They’re not all perfect. But they’re improving. Those that can, help those that cannot. It takes practice and repetition. My department responds to approximately 1,100 fire calls annually … no medical calls.
Here’s your chance. Start sharing this video, along with other videos from this channel. Start the discussion. A lot of what you see and hear is being shared with firefighters and their officers. Explain the confidence that is provided with good information, and that repetition is necessary to achieve competence. One of the key statements made early on … he was calm and clear; not yelling into the radio. The analogy I used in training was “When the garbage truck crew coms around the corner, they don’t scream and yell when they see trash cans lined down the street. They get to work, quickly and effectively removing the trash. Firefighters need to understand that while their job is exciting, you can perform better if you stay in control.”
After 40 years in the fire service, recently retiring as Fire Chief, I can tell you that this is all good information. Good luck!
Love all your content man! I was recently watching your video on why a fire science degree might not be the best choice rather than acquiring other skills like an EMT certification, however i'm in a unique situation (ARFF Marine stationed in japan) so the opportunities are a bit more slim until i return to the states. I want to utilize the TA offered by the Marine Corps and start working towards a bachelors degree related to the fire service. I was curious what type of degree would benefit me more fire science, fire administration, Emergency management, ect. if anyone has any experience or advice that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Enjoy the ride, Marine. You'll soon be 70 years old, and still a Marine, like me. Semper Fi
I like your channel and that you are not some angry screaming steroid jerkoff Firefighter. Intelligence dominates.
Never forget to mention basement access and conditions
maybe mention baby stroller in the yard?
love the Jordan Peterson books in the back round.