@@CitricOW Tell me If It wasnt Brigitte horrible release state that started the downward spiral. Goats and Double shield were only possible because of the overtuned aoe healing, and blizzard lack of transparency and urgency caused the game to not be fixed
As a venture main I think I would have been happier if instead of giving them a collab skin they worked on giving them some basic legendary's, because I personally don't like the toph skin but I'm happy they at least got one
Honestly, I feel like games that balance more around mid ladder are going to be more fun for the general player. Esport focuses on the top 500 or so players and what’s broken on the pro scene isn’t necessarily broken in regular play.
You know what? You actually make an excellent point about Venture. I basically agree with 100% of your take here. They absolutely deserve to get skins, especially after 8+ months. Not being delusional and asking for a Mythic, but at least a legendary? But yeah, the most vocal crowd complaining about it are getting a tad annoying. (From the leaked image, the Toph skin is kinda atrocious tho, ngl... All the other skins in the collab look really good but Venture legit looks like Venture wearing an ill-fitting Toph cosplay)
I think the bad communication for 6v6 because big changes that get spoiled end up failing in terms of impact. the early ow2 announcement rushed the devs and fucked up their launch significantly. I just think they fear hyping up the community for something that isn’t 100%
@@gamerbeast3616 The Day 1 numbers was Overwatch's 22K vs Marvel Rivals' 440K+ CONSISTENT. IT WAS 10 MILLION PLAYERS IN 3 DAYS. Overwatch is absolutely cooked at this rate, but it needs to perform bad for it to actually get better. Given the new update for OW is also terrible, People will flock in droves. Overwatch can stay at 22K because that's the Hardcore Player base. Marvel Rivals is here, the Boogeyman is AT THE DOOR, and Overwatch forgot to bring their shotgun. The competition is here and they didn't bring anything to try and fight back.
@@ramslife7295 marvel rivals will always cook overwatch 2 on player count no matter what because marvel rivals is on way more platforms and launchers on release than just steam and 1 other launcher unlike ow2 so that also brings in more players
I’m upset they are getting a skin and it’s for a collab, I’m so happy they got one but like how are they going to get a skin behind a collab that will make us pay extra? Juno came out and got a collab skin and is getting a new skin already and she hasn’t even been here as long as Venture. I love her to death and I think the Toph skin fits venture but even still. Also idk if I’m late to the party or something but why are we getting an Avatar collab anywho?
The discussions about venture skins is absolutely true, there is no where near the same amount of ppl playing venture in game as the ppl bitching about the skins which means ppl actually don’t gaf about venture getting a skin and most ppl aren’t going to buy it anyways and they just want to use it as “ reason #xxxx why overwatch is bad “ to bandwagon for engagement when it really isn’t that deep 💀 Juno was the most played supports when she came out and idk if she still is but I still see Juno in every game even without a skin for her season and I very rarely see any venture Also ppl complaining about the toph skin being a recolor as if venture isn’t wearing a completely different outfit just similar color scheme ( same color =/= recolor ) and the badger drill not only looking amazing but being a completely different model and momo being on their back and considering the fact that momo is aangs “pet” ( haven’t watched the show since I was a kid but I don’t ever remember toph having a connection or significant moment with momo so I’m pretty sure they only give momo to venture to give the skin more detail ) and like I said earlier all that bitching about the toph skin as if any of them are going to buy it outside of getting the bundle 💀💀
Nah no one plays Marvel Rivals for Esports, and majority of players probably don't even watch any streamers, they are just Marvel fans. Esports is completely irrelevant, making the game fun is the single most important factor, even if the game is not balanced, people can still have tons of fun.
I dont think marvel rivals needs esports to be truly successful. It just needs players and money
i played marvel rivals all weekend and it’s fun but i can say that i’m excited to go back to overwatch tomorrow for the new season
Good for u ، u don't have to pick one
@ i’m not.
speak for yourself
@@ptvstr that's what they did lol
Brother e-sports is the thing that destroyed OW.
Are you dumb?
ur not serious
Actually it was brigitte, aoe healing and blizzard negligence
@@heitorholanda6260 worst take ever ngl
@@CitricOW Tell me If It wasnt Brigitte horrible release state that started the downward spiral. Goats and Double shield were only possible because of the overtuned aoe healing, and blizzard lack of transparency and urgency caused the game to not be fixed
As a venture main I think I would have been happier if instead of giving them a collab skin they worked on giving them some basic legendary's, because I personally don't like the toph skin but I'm happy they at least got one
Honestly, I feel like games that balance more around mid ladder are going to be more fun for the general player. Esport focuses on the top 500 or so players and what’s broken on the pro scene isn’t necessarily broken in regular play.
You know what? You actually make an excellent point about Venture. I basically agree with 100% of your take here.
They absolutely deserve to get skins, especially after 8+ months. Not being delusional and asking for a Mythic, but at least a legendary?
But yeah, the most vocal crowd complaining about it are getting a tad annoying.
(From the leaked image, the Toph skin is kinda atrocious tho, ngl... All the other skins in the collab look really good but Venture legit looks like Venture wearing an ill-fitting Toph cosplay)
Marvel rival in my opinion is just really fun and the competitive scene probably won't affect the player base
I think the bad communication for 6v6 because big changes that get spoiled end up failing in terms of impact. the early ow2 announcement rushed the devs and fucked up their launch significantly. I just think they fear hyping up the community for something that isn’t 100%
How did this video go from talking about Marvel Rivals to talking about venture????????
Overwatch needs to die to survive. I’m team rivals all the way.
its not even dying
@@gamerbeast3616 The Day 1 numbers was Overwatch's 22K vs Marvel Rivals' 440K+ CONSISTENT. IT WAS 10 MILLION PLAYERS IN 3 DAYS. Overwatch is absolutely cooked at this rate, but it needs to perform bad for it to actually get better. Given the new update for OW is also terrible, People will flock in droves. Overwatch can stay at 22K because that's the Hardcore Player base. Marvel Rivals is here, the Boogeyman is AT THE DOOR, and Overwatch forgot to bring their shotgun. The competition is here and they didn't bring anything to try and fight back.
@@o0_VanYsH_0o once OW goes back to 6v6 it will clear rivals no problem
@@ramslife7295 marvel rivals will always cook overwatch 2 on player count no matter what because marvel rivals is on way more platforms and launchers on release than just steam and 1 other launcher unlike ow2 so that also brings in more players
@@catnepz I'm not talking player count I'm talking about gameplay 6v6 test is pretty good needs some more work though balance wise.
I’m upset they are getting a skin and it’s for a collab, I’m so happy they got one but like how are they going to get a skin behind a collab that will make us pay extra? Juno came out and got a collab skin and is getting a new skin already and she hasn’t even been here as long as Venture. I love her to death and I think the Toph skin fits venture but even still. Also idk if I’m late to the party or something but why are we getting an Avatar collab anywho?
Too much stuff in Marvel rivals are too busted to be competitive.
the new toph skin is not mid
The discussions about venture skins is absolutely true, there is no where near the same amount of ppl playing venture in game as the ppl bitching about the skins which means ppl actually don’t gaf about venture getting a skin and most ppl aren’t going to buy it anyways and they just want to use it as “ reason #xxxx why overwatch is bad “ to bandwagon for engagement when it really isn’t that deep 💀 Juno was the most played supports when she came out and idk if she still is but I still see Juno in every game even without a skin for her season and I very rarely see any venture
Also ppl complaining about the toph skin being a recolor as if venture isn’t wearing a completely different outfit just similar color scheme ( same color =/= recolor ) and the badger drill not only looking amazing but being a completely different model and momo being on their back and considering the fact that momo is aangs “pet” ( haven’t watched the show since I was a kid but I don’t ever remember toph having a connection or significant moment with momo so I’m pretty sure they only give momo to venture to give the skin more detail ) and like I said earlier all that bitching about the toph skin as if any of them are going to buy it outside of getting the bundle 💀💀
Nah no one plays Marvel Rivals for Esports, and majority of players probably don't even watch any streamers, they are just Marvel fans. Esports is completely irrelevant, making the game fun is the single most important factor, even if the game is not balanced, people can still have tons of fun.
I would say that most of the characters in marvel rivals need to be Nerf.
You look gay with the moustache ngl
was this necessary
@ …yes