SHANE VAN BOENING VS JAYSON SHAW - 2023 DERBY CITY CLASSIC BIGFOOT 10-BALL CHALLENGE

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  • Another match in the long standing rivalry between Shane Van Boening and Jayson Shaw, from the 2023 Derby City Classic Big Foot 10-Ball Challenge.
    This was from round two of the event, so both players had already had a chance to get acclimated to the table.
    These two Hall of Fame First Balloters have faced off so many times that they each know the other’s game very well. The winner would be locked into at least 3rd place, and the loser would be out of the event.
    Jeremy Jones and Mark Wilson were in the booth
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 181

  • @johndesousa7379
    @johndesousa7379 Рік тому +46

    The game is alot more beautiful when no jump shots are allowed. Great match.

    • @do_notknow_much
      @do_notknow_much Рік тому +4

      Or jumping only allowed with your regular pool cue. No specialized mini jump cues allowed. Sometimes you just need to get over the edge of a ball and that can be done with the regular sized cue.

    • @johndesousa7379
      @johndesousa7379 Рік тому +6

      @@do_notknow_much I like to see kicks and escapes and kick safes. Jumping takes all that out of the game. Less imagination.

    • @imothed6140
      @imothed6140 Рік тому +2

      ​@@do_notknow_muchi always do jump shot with my play cue's. bcs i can't afford jump cue's 😅

    • @Gizamalukeix
      @Gizamalukeix 11 місяців тому

      Right! I jump with a normal cue. I can even jump with a meucci. I don't use baby cues. @@do_notknow_much

    • @IAMDBC
      @IAMDBC 8 місяців тому

      ​@@do_notknow_muchi was jumping with a full length meucci!!

  • @mrmotosasa1
    @mrmotosasa1 Рік тому +29

    My 2 favorite announcers. Jeremy and Mark are so knowledgeable and interesting to listen to. I think they are actually helping me become a better player. thanks gentlemen

    • @davidjohnson2994
      @davidjohnson2994 7 місяців тому

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @BlackInventorsShowcase
      @BlackInventorsShowcase 6 місяців тому +1

      I couldn’t agree more! Jeremy is one of my favorites and mark just has such a good vibe!

  • @mogwopjr
    @mogwopjr Рік тому +54

    The conversation between JS and SVB at the end, it's nice to see rivals having a good hearted chat after a match like this. Thank you for posting the match for us to enjoy

    • @davidg.9561
      @davidg.9561 Рік тому

      I was going to post the same thing. Seems like there had been some bad blood between these two for a while now. It's not to see them get along (from the little bit we can see)

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Рік тому +1

      because of rack 14, Jason thought SVB hit the ten ball first..

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Рік тому

      1:27min

    • @runningman1207
      @runningman1207 Рік тому +1

      1:27:00

    • @viethoagnphoto
      @viethoagnphoto Рік тому

      @@runningman1207 1:27:19

  • @davidblack4695
    @davidblack4695 Рік тому +121

    Jeremy Jones is gonna go down. In the future. As the greatest nightball commentator of all time

  • @scottboyne8305
    @scottboyne8305 Рік тому +16

    Two of my favorites right there. It's hard to root against them

  • @joebradley1520
    @joebradley1520 Рік тому +26

    I've noticed Shaw has been very humble lately, starting to like his class now

    • @dummy999
      @dummy999 Рік тому +6

      I know right? What's up with Shaw having grace 😂 Like a neutered dog compared to Mosconi Shaw 5 years ago

    • @JeffMTX
      @JeffMTX Рік тому

      I didn’t like him much, but lately I like him. Bet that’s why

    • @johndenver752
      @johndenver752 Рік тому +2

      He was nearly in tears when he lost the pool league to FSR. the way he behaved after that game made me lose all respect for him. its good to show a bitof class after the way he behaved losing that final

    • @edyoung3664
      @edyoung3664 Рік тому

      married with children@@dummy999

    • @larrycheek3588
      @larrycheek3588 11 місяців тому

      Hanoi!!! Ahaha

  • @duanebruce1539
    @duanebruce1539 Рік тому +3

    Two great players, great match, and the best comentation in pool. Superb.

  • @tommywingate2220
    @tommywingate2220 Рік тому +4

    These 2 commentators have a synergy that is very positive and comprehensive. I’ve only heard two others do billards and they were awkward at best. Even without a great knowledge of this art it is obvious to this casual observer the earlier HOF comments seem appropriate. Very enjoyable.

  • @OzarkBill
    @OzarkBill Рік тому +6

    What a classic! These guys never disappoint in head to head. And I'm always glad to see SVB come out on top!
    SVB!!!

  • @thegodofpez
    @thegodofpez Рік тому +4

    Fantastic match. Love watching these legends clash.

  • @rodconner9079
    @rodconner9079 Рік тому +4

    Love watching both these gents! Knew one of 'em was gonna win!!!! :) Let's Gooooooo Be Safe

  • @SassiKassi420
    @SassiKassi420 Рік тому +7

    Thank you to all of that shared this stream!

  • @panteleomurphy
    @panteleomurphy Рік тому +12

    I feel like the Derby strives to be the most pure format, and I know there’s a reason they do things how they do, but I think winner-break format would be one stroke more pure.

    • @PartyLikeIts1776
      @PartyLikeIts1776 Рік тому +2

      I hate winner break. I like alternate break. Adds fairness.

  • @rle1020
    @rle1020 Рік тому +5

    Two guys I get the enjoyment of seeing them lose is Shaw and Filler. Both have a cockiness about them that when they lose I’m like yes.

  • @davidrandell7162
    @davidrandell7162 Рік тому +10

    1:14:32 (Explanation for Mr. Jones) I believe that when the cue ball is so close to the rail that it is sometimes spinning more than the normal amount. In other words when it would be rolling without sliding. Mathematically angular velocity is now greater than v/r this happens when the cue ball is struck higher than 7/10ths it's radius or the point of percussion. (Assuming a level cue.) This is also why it is easier to control topspin than draw--after a certain distance the amount of spin (excluding side) is indepent of cueing height and only dependent on cueball velocity (omega =v/r)

    • @dummy999
      @dummy999 Рік тому

      When does the cueball ever roll before it slides? Isn't it only possible for the cueball to slide first then roll? (or just slide or just roll depending on speed/distance)

    • @robdetuinman2
      @robdetuinman2 Рік тому +2

      It can't ever be good to start a science explanation with: "I believe"

    • @miamiwax5504
      @miamiwax5504 10 місяців тому

      🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @jessicaingles6079
      @jessicaingles6079 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@robdetuinman2I believe you're right 😊

  • @RobertLeBlancPhoto
    @RobertLeBlancPhoto Рік тому +13

    I'd love to know what Shaw was talking to SVB about after the match.

    • @BakerNo.9
      @BakerNo.9 Рік тому

      Me too. What was that about?

    • @boostjunky24
      @boostjunky24 Рік тому +5

      They're ex housemates... They could be talking about anything... Didn't look like a heated discussion... All good...

    • @charickter
      @charickter Рік тому +3

      Did they both have issues with chalk stuck to the cue ball? It appeared as tho' they may have been discussing that. The way SVB picked up the cue ball and inspected it; scraping at it with his fingernail leads me to think maybe so.

    • @trueamerican2305
      @trueamerican2305 Рік тому +8

      If you read his lips shaw says "man you're too great! I'm just a bum when I'm in your presence. .... how can I improve my game dakota?!"
      SVB say "practice lil worrior, you'll get there."
      I could be off a lil here and there but that's the jist

    • @jamest3552
      @jamest3552 Рік тому +1

      Wanna come over later for beers?
      Or could have been the rail first shot on the 1 then all the way around the table without hitting anything and ending straight on the 2. "Shane that was fookin lucky."

  • @johndenver752
    @johndenver752 Рік тому +2

    What Cue stick is Jayson Shaw using, does anybody know? It is a beauty. I usually dont appreciate cues with no handle wrap, that one however...that is gorgeous

  • @Peropero337
    @Peropero337 10 місяців тому

    tbh the first time i watched a DCC 9 Ball tournament i thought it was the 90s - 00s, idk why but it really gives me the vibe of it.

  • @josephammons7309
    @josephammons7309 Рік тому +1

    Amazizng match love it

  • @tomnekuda3818
    @tomnekuda3818 Рік тому +1

    Shaw is amazing when he's shooting long across the pasture....good technique.

  • @tomjendra9733
    @tomjendra9733 11 місяців тому

    jeremy and mark are the goat commentators

  • @peymanghorbani6390
    @peymanghorbani6390 8 місяців тому

    We Persian have an adage “ don’t thank God before eating the food” eat the food firstand then thank God.A message for commentators, don’t rush for celebration and don’t be biased .Just comment don’t take sides.Great match, I have watched it more than twenty times.

  • @AndrewT
    @AndrewT Рік тому +3

    Beautifully played by both players!

    • @do_notknow_much
      @do_notknow_much Рік тому

      .773 stat is way below what Shaw usually shoots.

    • @AndrewT
      @AndrewT Рік тому

      @@do_notknow_much true, but that Stat doesn't take into account everything like difficulty of layout etc

  • @antoniocardenas3788
    @antoniocardenas3788 Рік тому +1

    Gracias por avisar

  • @raymundozarate
    @raymundozarate Рік тому +1

    Jeremy, God bless you brother. You're awesome! 🙏🏼🤟🏼❤️

  • @davideivid82
    @davideivid82 Рік тому +1

    53:24 Why Shaw touches the middle of the rail to announce the shot?

  • @amelia_babelia
    @amelia_babelia Рік тому

    fun one to watch

  • @juppderwal918
    @juppderwal918 7 місяців тому

    I think the name "Eagle Eye" doesn't come from his eyes,
    but on its ability to turn its head 180 degrees. He walks to his chair, still looking at the table.

  • @wealthychef
    @wealthychef Рік тому +1

    I guess they don't use the shot clock, or are very generous with it. E.g. at 1:21:13 SVB is way over time.But happens a lot. So why even run the clock?

    • @markinjhawkland724
      @markinjhawkland724 Рік тому +3

      If you are down on the shot before the clock runs out you can stay down as long as you want and still leagally shoot. If you stand up after the clock runs out it's your extension. If you don't have an extension standing up is a foul. This rule is unique to this tourny AFAIK.

  • @thisismyoutlet
    @thisismyoutlet 7 місяців тому

    Did Shaw call the bank on the 1 at 1:00:17 ? I never saw him call it. He looked like he was going for a defensive play

  • @CJsResearch
    @CJsResearch Рік тому +1

    JJ, please use your super powers to rid the world of jump cues forever.

  • @somethingtrulyhorrifying
    @somethingtrulyhorrifying Рік тому +1

    I don't put much blame on the ref for not correcting who's breaking the next rack, I'm sure it's easy to fall into a lull and let the process automate itself when you have players of this caliber at the table. Still, ref's gotta be on his toes.

  • @tomaszsosnowski9279
    @tomaszsosnowski9279 8 місяців тому

    At 44:20 what kind of technique is this body position?

  • @PartyLikeIts1776
    @PartyLikeIts1776 Рік тому +1

    Shane is the billiards GOAT

  • @bigknocker2264
    @bigknocker2264 Рік тому +1

    Can someone tell me about the rack their using?

    • @bigknocker2264
      @bigknocker2264 Рік тому +1

      Oops...they're using.

    • @markinjhawkland724
      @markinjhawkland724 Рік тому

      @@bigknocker2264 Google Majic Rack Pool. They are little thin films with holes to hole the balls in place. You can get very consistent and tight racks. But using them the pros got a little too good at repeating consistant breaks. That's a big reason why they rack the nine on the spot for nine ball these days if using those types of racks.

  • @seanshay6573
    @seanshay6573 Рік тому

    they respect each other

  • @petefranklin931
    @petefranklin931 10 місяців тому

    What size are the pockets on these 10ft tables?

  • @wildansyuhada_
    @wildansyuhada_ Рік тому +2

    1:53:56 i’m not sure if the white ball doesn’t hit the rail, need a slow motion replay i think

    • @chrisharris82
      @chrisharris82 Рік тому +1

      4 ball hit a rail doesn't matter if the cue ball did

    • @chrisharris82
      @chrisharris82 Рік тому +2

      my bad wrong shot... yeah cue ball never hit a rail

  • @al9030
    @al9030 Рік тому

    Nice Shane!!

  • @pugsnhogz
    @pugsnhogz 9 місяців тому

    @1:01:22 is that squirt contributing to the miss?

  • @bigknocker2264
    @bigknocker2264 Рік тому

    Also, is Shaw a dominant right-eyed player? Looked like he has the cue aligned directly under his right eye.

  • @dsauce223
    @dsauce223 Рік тому +1

    Looks like a line drive in the box score. Lol, gold.

  • @sb2h
    @sb2h Рік тому

    First time I feel like the commentators really know what they're talking about. Great insight.

  • @jamest3552
    @jamest3552 Рік тому

    What was Shaw jawing about with Shane at the end?

  • @ponfiripatato
    @ponfiripatato Рік тому +1

    33:29 who is Stu Montana? Can anyone enlighten me please
    Edit: Ive seen the face before. But Finally put a name to the face. And after looking Stu up on AZBilliards, I just want to say, THANK YOU STU! God bless.

    • @santiagomolinareina4405
      @santiagomolinareina4405 Рік тому

      I have the same question. always see him on these matches and now that Mark said his name want to know more who he is. I'll do some research (his name is Stuart Mattana)

  • @jebryan2795
    @jebryan2795 Рік тому +3

    JJs pool IQ is out of this world ... Great ambassador for pool as well.

  • @chuckkennedy7510
    @chuckkennedy7510 6 місяців тому

    Announcers were wrong dam near everytime on shoot selection. Nothing wrong with not guessing at what the pros are doing.

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld Рік тому +1

    @44:25 I've never seen that technique before.

    • @jaker1160
      @jaker1160 Рік тому +2

      Mark Williams (snooker)

    • @sb2h
      @sb2h Рік тому +1

      Definitely gonna use it now as a leftie

  • @TheJohnCooperShow
    @TheJohnCooperShow Рік тому

    cloth is so quick!

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw 6 місяців тому

    For those of you who've watched a lot of TAR matches ...
    glad we don't have to hear Cotton rattle on about peeench with JJ. 🙂

  • @Zh.52574
    @Zh.52574 Рік тому

    Why are these videos so low quality.

    • @sb2h
      @sb2h Рік тому

      Pool doesn't produce a ton of money so they don't have millions to spend on cameras, and it's a two hour video, if you want it in 4k it's gonna take a week to upload.
      Next time use your brain before commenting

  • @salemblair6272
    @salemblair6272 Рік тому

    Wonder what shaw was saying at the end in a way it looked like Shane tapped the ball in the last rack in end shoots

  • @twilightzonepinball
    @twilightzonepinball 10 місяців тому

    One of these commentators is such a fucking know it all.

  • @MrP316
    @MrP316 Рік тому

    Why is this on a 10 foot table?

  • @sonegaskotschabo1714
    @sonegaskotschabo1714 Рік тому +1

    How big is the table Looks huge 😂

  • @edwardgunawan2689
    @edwardgunawan2689 Рік тому

    Both are goat

  • @silvernutoutdoors8892
    @silvernutoutdoors8892 Рік тому

    Shaw looked kinda stoned at the begining of this lol great match

  • @jamest3552
    @jamest3552 Рік тому +1

    1:09:20 SVB misses by nearly a diamond. 😲

  • @diehardfan173
    @diehardfan173 14 днів тому

    1:56 20 what an awesome shot!

  • @trueamerican2305
    @trueamerican2305 Рік тому +3

    Went from eagle eye to Cockeyed in a matter of 2 hrs.

  • @earlycuyler8719
    @earlycuyler8719 Рік тому

    39:52 tell me the rack wasn’t crooked

  • @bradlee5564
    @bradlee5564 Рік тому

    Jeremy Jones gets paid by the word.

  • @SiLL-E-Meat
    @SiLL-E-Meat Рік тому

    Shane's REVENGE on the Big Boi

  • @rogerscottcathey
    @rogerscottcathey Рік тому +2

    1:14:32 thought he used reverse for that shot but must have shifted to running. Surprised by that miss

    • @davidrandell7162
      @davidrandell7162 Рік тому +1

      I thought that because he was jacked and hit high he imparted excessive top. Liked your comment.

  • @Heriberto-l1r
    @Heriberto-l1r 10 місяців тому

    I bet the players these days are happy Efrem Reyes got old 😂😂😂

  • @ralphwiggum240
    @ralphwiggum240 Рік тому

    @ 1:56:08 kind of risky... n!ce shot on the 9 to get to the 10.
    @ 1:59:04 1ball in the corner, then around the table 3 rails with this leave for the 2ball, through traffic.

  • @jimg7318
    @jimg7318 Рік тому

    SVB got a little unlucky on games 4 5 and 6.

  • @REDSIX
    @REDSIX Рік тому

    RIP head phone users.

  • @agareja1
    @agareja1 Рік тому

    Can any of you explain me why do pool players roll their fingers under bridge? Looks so weird....

    • @MikeyD22
      @MikeyD22 Рік тому +1

      I can't think of any logical reason other than extra stability. It certainly doesn't seem necessary.

    • @agareja1
      @agareja1 Рік тому +1

      @@MikeyD22 I thought it's more stable on 4 finger tips. At least in snooker but that do I know....

    • @MikeyD22
      @MikeyD22 Рік тому +1

      @@agareja1 I agree with you and use all four fingers on the table myself.

    • @agareja1
      @agareja1 Рік тому

      @@MikeyD22 I play snooker all my life and never seen it.

    • @repoman2115
      @repoman2115 Рік тому

      Probably just more comfortable for them, no advantage or disadvantage

  • @imgoing2stayonyourmind654
    @imgoing2stayonyourmind654 Рік тому +2

    GUYS...was that a shark move attempt by Eagle Eye ?
    Look at how he picks up the TWO pieces of chalk, and sits them back down. 1:05:40
    Or maybe just innocent nerves or instincts ?

    • @ponfiripatato
      @ponfiripatato Рік тому +2

      I think just nerves after having missed a simple shot.
      All match (before that) Shaw moved Shanes chalks around. Whether moving them out of line of sight or out of the cue stick path. Shane didn’t seem to mind and kept leaving them at the table.
      So I think it was just nerves/in the moment/he’d been grabbing them the whole match.

    • @imgoing2stayonyourmind654
      @imgoing2stayonyourmind654 Рік тому

      @@ponfiripatato Fair enough friend.

    • @kyledilly6267
      @kyledilly6267 Рік тому

      I think he just couldn't believe the ball stayed up and picked up the chalk to walk back to his chair like he normally would, then realized he made a mistake grabbing both and just put them down. I noticed it at the time as well but in this instance I don't think there was any malintent.

    • @onepocketnovice
      @onepocketnovice Рік тому +2

      He was moving them closer to Shane's table approach position so Shane wouldn't have to walk around for it.

    • @jaypisme2343
      @jaypisme2343 Рік тому

      He was bitching about the no rail foul at the end

  • @RobertCOVELL
    @RobertCOVELL Рік тому

    American Pickers Jeremy!

  • @tylerash3800
    @tylerash3800 Рік тому +1

    Stop talking so much and just let us watch

    • @DanBaytlor-lz4hs
      @DanBaytlor-lz4hs Рік тому +1

      (says the APA 3 rank who gets angry when a 7 or 9 rank calls a timeout on him)

    • @leshundavis3263
      @leshundavis3263 Рік тому

      @@DanBaytlor-lz4hs😂😂😂

  • @jonathanbascom904
    @jonathanbascom904 Рік тому

    Agreed…Jeremy Jones best commentator ever….

  • @Pluralizes_everythings.
    @Pluralizes_everythings. 10 місяців тому

    Announcers are annoying..mute

  • @KopisodaWarung
    @KopisodaWarung 11 місяців тому

    😄❤❤❤

  • @Jlambert1213
    @Jlambert1213 Рік тому

    Could SVB Do anything wrong and the announcers would admit to it?

  • @do_notknow_much
    @do_notknow_much Рік тому

    Someone please tell Jeremy Jones you don't need to talk that much. Way too much commentary. Just let the men play some pool. Time to mute you Jeremy.

  • @RubyBandUSA
    @RubyBandUSA Рік тому

    Shane, start hitting the gym again

  • @nahog99
    @nahog99 Рік тому +1

    Spoiler shield 🛡️

  • @Lord_Mecca
    @Lord_Mecca Рік тому

    Jeremy talks waaaaaaay too much

  • @alexlo710
    @alexlo710 Рік тому

    Stop muming all the time. Not cool.

  • @bfrytech
    @bfrytech Рік тому

    Mark is too academic. Jeremy is experienced. Big difference. I'd gamble with Mark.... not so much with JJ

  • @reos7496
    @reos7496 Рік тому

    LOL GAY STICK PAAN NJIR

  • @niklastorshagen6365
    @niklastorshagen6365 Рік тому +1

    Is it just me that thinks Jayson Shaw looks like the monster pedo from Sin City

  • @Wyattpari2178
    @Wyattpari2178 Рік тому

    Jayson Shaw looks rough. Needs to dry out for a while

  • @Mc-RaGe-In
    @Mc-RaGe-In Рік тому

    Shaws lucky ass leaves. Can’t stand the dude.

  • @sb2h
    @sb2h Рік тому

    Woah, y'all know about Big Tyme Billiards? That's crazy

  • @trichotillomaniac1959
    @trichotillomaniac1959 Рік тому +1

    First