Got mine today, so pleased with them. Sounds better than some headphones I've tried for double the price or maybe more. Bass was missing for me with ars technica m40x and feels like a huge upgrade with solid bass and you can easily identify mix issues. The highs do take a while to get used to but no where near as harsh for me as people seem to make out, but means my mixes are getting so much better for translation and it's easy to sort high frequency issues up front. I'm in love son!
@@SuperReview was using the audio technica m50x's and then later upgraded to the beyerdynamic 990 pro's but the m50x were lacking mids and to much low end, as with the 990's had a little to much high-mids (around 3k ish) was a bit sharp and shouty and the low end rolled off on the sub bass... was trying to find a headphone to use if I was not using my speaker monitors (Adam A7X's) and though the Beyerdynamic DT 900 pro x are not as wide or detailed as I would hoped, the flat-ish sound, extended roll off on the sub bass and not as shouty high-end really helped with mixing with headphones and can get satisfied mixes with them as if I was using monitors (they don't replace my monitors but makes for a great alternative for a mix)
@ericparker8905 absolutely, the 990's are not bad by any means. They are great but cab be a little harsh in upper mids 1 to 4k, but the 900's are flatter and still has top end but without making it harsh
@ericparker8905 yeah you bet! I'm assuming your buying these for listening to music and not recording? If it's just for listening than that's still great and these headphones will definitely give you a great experience 👍.
This has been extremely helpful as these were basically my candidates + the 1990 Pro if I really wanted to spend a lot. Right now I'm thinking I'll end up going with these, especially since they're on sale right now.
I got a pair 2 weeks ago. They sound much better then the 900 Pro I tested. I am comparing them to the 990 Pro, 770 Pro, and my trusted MDR-7506. The cups come just about 3-5mm low and coupled with the increased clamp over the 900 makes it noticeable when first wearing them, but it goes away. I think clamp force around 4-4.5 would be better, but it's not uncomfortable. They do get a little warming than the 900 and 770 too. The sound is nice and flat, which makes EQing them easier, and the sound is balanced. The sub is pretty good, better than both 770 and 900 and on pair/better than 7506. Being open, I find the bass to be very good. It's not a very dynamic sounding bass though. I think Sennheiser momentum 3 has fantastic bass compared to 900. They are sensitive to EQ changes, which to me is good bc they respond well to adjustments. The lower Ohm rating makes them easy to drive, but a good amp might help to push certain Hz better and maybe an external DAC, as I am running them straight off my 2022 iMac 27" headphone output. I def. would recommend them. BUT... IDK if the Sennheiser HD600 would be better and have more bass, since I listen to techno and Trance all day. Yet, the 900 has very kicky bass and is not boomy, which some would like, including myself, at times.
I can totally back your impressions of the Sundara's technical performance. I ordered a Sundara to be a more technical complimentary set to my HD600, as many people hail them as that... But after doing some volume matching AB testing, both with and without EQ on both, I noticed that in the vast majority of tests, the HD600 had noticeably better technical performance than the Sundara. HD600 still isn't super technical, but it was ahead of the Sundara, which really disappointed me. It's still a good headphone, but it's a high B Tier headphone, not a high A like I expected, so I ended up returning it.
I had an X2 (now known as X2HR) for a couple years and it was great as my first HiFi headphone. Ended up getting a 560S which wowed me with its detail and clarity vs the X2 while having better bass quality but way less quantity which I did get used to. Now moved to a 6XX for 6 months and tried the 560S again and its way too bright for me, but i LOVE the 6XX especially for vocals its such a good headphone. Ordered the 900 Pro X to see how it is for me, the 6XX is something I dont ever see myself getting rid of, and maybe the 900 Pro X will be a good compliment. I would like to try 600s some day but I know they lack bass vs 650s and I think the 650s are just right so it may be disappointing.
@@DefuseAUGaming They are very good, and if you like a neutral sound with nice amount of bass for being open back (technically its semi open) then it's worth looking into. Personally though I still prefer the 6XX for most content including games, although the 560S is very good too and better in games than the 6XX. If comparing the headphones on the basis of price the 560S were just $125 recently on Amazon and I suspect in November they'll go that low again. For that price the 900 pro x makes no sense unless you want a better feeling build quality, but the sennheisers while feeling cheap are 240g vs 340g and are also built to last.
Very surprised that you found that the sundara was the weakest in technical performance because my sundara that I had bested all of these other headphones easily in technical performance - detail, separation, dynamics. Most people tend to come to the same conclusion as well, so maybe you have a faulty unit? I personally found the dt900 to be blunted in detail due to the amount of padding they put in front of the driver. The tuning is great, but I wish beyerdynamic would tune their headphones without having to add a bunch of padding in front of the driver. I still like the 900 pro x but actually thought that detail was it's only thing that wasn't up to speed for me.
I’ve had my Sundaras for about a month and a half and I don’t know how I feel about them. They’re good technically but I just feel the treble can be too much. But I love my DT1990 without EQ. I’m not sure what it is about the Sundara. Maybe I have a faulty pair, or maybe I’m sensitive to a certain spot in the treble tuning of the Sundara.
@@AudioHead809 must be the case because I can't listen to the 1990 at loud volumes because of it's incredibly sharp peak at 8.5k. I get that some people find the sundara to be a little bright, but I never found them to be that siblant. Then again, I found it best with the singxer sa1 and the schiit modius which both do a good job at calming the highs a smidge.
@@StegzGaming I got that affect with a Drop CTH amp at one point with the dt770 pros. The tube really helped smooth things out. Maybe that 8.5 spike I’m numb to but there’s gotta be something in the tuning that i don’t like on my specific pair of Sundaras. After looking at the graph maybe it’s the 1-2k region that I don’t like and somehow the higher frequencies don’t bother me much. I have no idea but the best way I can explain it is it just seems like too much in the high mids/treble. I think you’ve helped me learn a thing or two about picking headphones out from now on and I appreciate that. Got me to look at some graphs too! Much appreciated! Edit: By the way I do think the Sundaras are amazing when it comes to separation and the dynamics as well as clarity. They are most definitely a good headphone. Edit edit: I also use the Dekoni Velour pads on my DT1990 and maybe that helped smooth out the highs. They are probably my favorite pair of headphones along side the hd650 so far.
@Luke Reid This is true. Most companies tune a headphone in a way that the majority will like. Even these “audiophile” headphones. They all get close to the Harmon target. That’s why the same headphones get hype and they’re all tuned similarly. But there are tiny differences and everyone’s ears are different. Those minor differences can seem big. And others don’t even pick them up. I’m glad I learned this whole audio thing is subjective early. The only way to know what you like is to try things out. Unfortunately I’ve learned the Sundaras are just not my cup of tea. And I have a huge feeling it’s the 1-5k area for sure because the dt1990s sit lower on the graph there and I love them so much. It’s like they add some spice to the music. The Sundaras are just an everything bagel to me. I love them but after a while they are not good.
Finally... Yeah, hard to beat 600 even though it's been around forever. Actually you should make the HD 600 as a baseline to which other equipment should compared. I hope Beyer finally fixed the mount Beyer treble. I have the 880-600ohm and HD 600 beats the crap out it.
First off I love the "X" cut lol. My 990 600 ohms are my first open backs and I love them. I just ordered a pair of the 900 pro.....X. I wanted a great set of cans that are more versatile.
@@SuperReview the 990 has a v-shaped sound signature and i personally really don't like it because the treble is very overemphasized, the soundstage and imaging is great though and the 990 is good for gaming but you have to use EQ if you want to enjoy music. I've heard that the 900 has a better sound signature that is less v-shaped and has less emphasis in the treble but the soundstage is not as big.
I'm confused between the Edifier Stax Spirit 3 or the Buyerndynamic DT900 Pro. I know its different about the driver thay use. I dont know edifier or buyerndynamic better
owned 560s for a year, too harsh, tried hd6x0 series, like the 600 the most, and really like the dt900 prox as well, cannot decide between the two. I can get them at the same price (310 USD), which will be a better pick. (don't like sundara, vocals are too thin, 660s too dark)
@@SuperReview do you think the bass in the 900 will be enough for rap music. Im looking for something with a bit more bass than my hyperx cloud alpha s
I can't say for your preferences, for me the bass is excellent, better extended than most open back headphones. The 700 will probably be bassier if that's what you're after.
I have a pair of these and love them. Ive never really got into IEMs but am keen to give some a try. Are there any $100-$200 IEMs that 900 pro x fans might enjoy?
I'm not impressed by the headphones of today. I find them way too expensive for the sound quality they provide. It's also been a very stagnant market for many years and it doesn't seem to get better anytime soon. Quite sad, really.
Well there’s only so much a single headphone can do. Even the best audio engineers use multiple headphone for multiple reasons. A new headphone can be 1,000$ more and only be 5% better. It’s small details.
@@SuperReview Sorry, I just did my own Schoot-Out this last week. Bought (6) Top Beyerdynamics, Sennheizers 600 650, Audio Technica's, AKG;s, Shure * the Sony 7506. I won't start anything but we all hear different i suppose :) Thx
DONT BUY IT. If you are a casual that wants to play some games and listen to music don't buy this headset. You will need an AMP to power it since its not as loud and isn't suitable for gaming. The headset is nothing special, i got it then instantly wanted to refund it. I wanted to upgrade from my 2-year-old HyperX Cloud 2 and holy moly the Beyerdynamics almost don't provide an upgrade from my previous headset. The headset's selling point is that you wont need an amplifier since its 48 ohms and everything around 30 ohms don't require additional hardware. Out of the box they sound nothing special. I compared the same songs using these and my old headphones, the only difference was the slight boost in bass(which is not worth the 250 euro upgrade) If anything, I come to respect my HyperX cloud 2 even more... what a legendary headset, it has spatial audio(7.1) compared to the stereo speakers of dt 900 pro x which is day and night difference in FPS games. It is louder than the 900 pro x and has a mic that Is really solid.
@@totidokkan I've listened to them a lot straight out of my MacBook. I don't know how loud you listen, but I could definitely cause hearing damage with just my MacBook using the Beyers.
Omg you don’t know anything about sound,music.Hyperx better for gaming better.Haha ok true cuz gaming headset have shite frequency.They don’t need amp/dac at all.Use them on pc and never turn them more them 60% when listening to music and 30-35% plain games.And yes I use loads headsets before: Hyperx cloud 2 Razer headphones SteelSeries arctic pro and nova pro,Logitech g pro,audeze maxwell. And let me tell you they not even close to dt900,dt700,dt770,dt990,HD560S and I own all of them
Bro I using DT 900 pro x on my phone 50% volume and pc 15% volume. It's easy to drive like planar IEM, loud enough to hear all detail. This headphone is really good for music out of box. Take care of your hearing
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Got mine today, so pleased with them. Sounds better than some headphones I've tried for double the price or maybe more. Bass was missing for me with ars technica m40x and feels like a huge upgrade with solid bass and you can easily identify mix issues. The highs do take a while to get used to but no where near as harsh for me as people seem to make out, but means my mixes are getting so much better for translation and it's easy to sort high frequency issues up front. I'm in love son!
Thanks for the take 🤙
I'm a music producer and mix my own songs and these headphones are a god sent!!! made my mixes way better and more accurate.
What were you using before these, and how do these help better?
@@SuperReview was using the audio technica m50x's and then later upgraded to the beyerdynamic 990 pro's but the m50x were lacking mids and to much low end, as with the 990's had a little to much high-mids (around 3k ish) was a bit sharp and shouty and the low end rolled off on the sub bass... was trying to find a headphone to use if I was not using my speaker monitors (Adam A7X's) and though the Beyerdynamic DT 900 pro x are not as wide or detailed as I would hoped, the flat-ish sound, extended roll off on the sub bass and not as shouty high-end really helped with mixing with headphones and can get satisfied mixes with them as if I was using monitors (they don't replace my monitors but makes for a great alternative for a mix)
@ericparker8905 absolutely, the 990's are not bad by any means. They are great but cab be a little harsh in upper mids 1 to 4k, but the 900's are flatter and still has top end but without making it harsh
@ericparker8905 yeah you bet! I'm assuming your buying these for listening to music and not recording? If it's just for listening than that's still great and these headphones will definitely give you a great experience 👍.
What DAC do you use with 900 pro x?
This has been extremely helpful as these were basically my candidates + the 1990 Pro if I really wanted to spend a lot. Right now I'm thinking I'll end up going with these, especially since they're on sale right now.
I can get them for 200 bucks here in Germany in their outlet. For that price these are amazing I think. Absolutely worth it imo
Hi, where is that outlet ?
@@ahmadfodeh3413 online
@@ahmadfodeh3413 its online at their homepage
the review that I am looking for. thank You.
I got a pair 2 weeks ago. They sound much better then the 900 Pro I tested. I am comparing them to the 990 Pro, 770 Pro, and my trusted MDR-7506. The cups come just about 3-5mm low and coupled with the increased clamp over the 900 makes it noticeable when first wearing them, but it goes away. I think clamp force around 4-4.5 would be better, but it's not uncomfortable. They do get a little warming than the 900 and 770 too. The sound is nice and flat, which makes EQing them easier, and the sound is balanced. The sub is pretty good, better than both 770 and 900 and on pair/better than 7506. Being open, I find the bass to be very good. It's not a very dynamic sounding bass though. I think Sennheiser momentum 3 has fantastic bass compared to 900. They are sensitive to EQ changes, which to me is good bc they respond well to adjustments. The lower Ohm rating makes them easy to drive, but a good amp might help to push certain Hz better and maybe an external DAC, as I am running them straight off my 2022 iMac 27" headphone output. I def. would recommend them. BUT... IDK if the Sennheiser HD600 would be better and have more bass, since I listen to techno and Trance all day. Yet, the 900 has very kicky bass and is not boomy, which some would like, including myself, at times.
Hello, please Tell me amp stereo MAGNAT MR 780 will be enough Power for 900 pro x? Now I use close senheiser 380 pro 54 Ohm.
@@wypych1209 Oczywiście wystarczy!
HD 600 has practically no bass at all. 900 Pro X has far better bass. If you want better bass you'd need to look into closed backs like 700 Pro X.
Man, I just want to come over and listen to all your headphones.
I wish it was easier to facilitate.
Awesome review, Thank you!
Great live chat. Mark always has an interesting live chat.
Thanks for the contributions 👍
I can totally back your impressions of the Sundara's technical performance. I ordered a Sundara to be a more technical complimentary set to my HD600, as many people hail them as that... But after doing some volume matching AB testing, both with and without EQ on both, I noticed that in the vast majority of tests, the HD600 had noticeably better technical performance than the Sundara.
HD600 still isn't super technical, but it was ahead of the Sundara, which really disappointed me. It's still a good headphone, but it's a high B Tier headphone, not a high A like I expected, so I ended up returning it.
Yeah, I'm very curious to hear another Sundara than the one I've got, but it strikes me as a very solid sound... but doesn't hook me at all.
I had an X2 (now known as X2HR) for a couple years and it was great as my first HiFi headphone. Ended up getting a 560S which wowed me with its detail and clarity vs the X2 while having better bass quality but way less quantity which I did get used to. Now moved to a 6XX for 6 months and tried the 560S again and its way too bright for me, but i LOVE the 6XX especially for vocals its such a good headphone. Ordered the 900 Pro X to see how it is for me, the 6XX is something I dont ever see myself getting rid of, and maybe the 900 Pro X will be a good compliment. I would like to try 600s some day but I know they lack bass vs 650s and I think the 650s are just right so it may be disappointing.
How are the 900 x compared to the rest
@@DefuseAUGaming They are very good, and if you like a neutral sound with nice amount of bass for being open back (technically its semi open) then it's worth looking into. Personally though I still prefer the 6XX for most content including games, although the 560S is very good too and better in games than the 6XX. If comparing the headphones on the basis of price the 560S were just $125 recently on Amazon and I suspect in November they'll go that low again. For that price the 900 pro x makes no sense unless you want a better feeling build quality, but the sennheisers while feeling cheap are 240g vs 340g and are also built to last.
will these be good for gaming?
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You make very good quality videos, thank you for the work you put in👍🙂 :)
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Very surprised that you found that the sundara was the weakest in technical performance because my sundara that I had bested all of these other headphones easily in technical performance - detail, separation, dynamics. Most people tend to come to the same conclusion as well, so maybe you have a faulty unit? I personally found the dt900 to be blunted in detail due to the amount of padding they put in front of the driver. The tuning is great, but I wish beyerdynamic would tune their headphones without having to add a bunch of padding in front of the driver. I still like the 900 pro x but actually thought that detail was it's only thing that wasn't up to speed for me.
I don’t know what people mean by “blunted.” But yeah, given other impressions of Sundara I do wonder about my unit. It’s the only one I’ve heard.
I’ve had my Sundaras for about a month and a half and I don’t know how I feel about them. They’re good technically but I just feel the treble can be too much. But I love my DT1990 without EQ. I’m not sure what it is about the Sundara. Maybe I have a faulty pair, or maybe I’m sensitive to a certain spot in the treble tuning of the Sundara.
@@AudioHead809 must be the case because I can't listen to the 1990 at loud volumes because of it's incredibly sharp peak at 8.5k. I get that some people find the sundara to be a little bright, but I never found them to be that siblant. Then again, I found it best with the singxer sa1 and the schiit modius which both do a good job at calming the highs a smidge.
@@StegzGaming I got that affect with a Drop CTH amp at one point with the dt770 pros. The tube really helped smooth things out. Maybe that 8.5 spike I’m numb to but there’s gotta be something in the tuning that i don’t like on my specific pair of Sundaras. After looking at the graph maybe it’s the 1-2k region that I don’t like and somehow the higher frequencies don’t bother me much. I have no idea but the best way I can explain it is it just seems like too much in the high mids/treble. I think you’ve helped me learn a thing or two about picking headphones out from now on and I appreciate that. Got me to look at some graphs too! Much appreciated!
Edit: By the way I do think the Sundaras are amazing when it comes to separation and the dynamics as well as clarity. They are most definitely a good headphone.
Edit edit: I also use the Dekoni Velour pads on my DT1990 and maybe that helped smooth out the highs. They are probably my favorite pair of headphones along side the hd650 so far.
@Luke Reid This is true. Most companies tune a headphone in a way that the majority will like. Even these “audiophile” headphones. They all get close to the Harmon target. That’s why the same headphones get hype and they’re all tuned similarly. But there are tiny differences and everyone’s ears are different. Those minor differences can seem big. And others don’t even pick them up. I’m glad I learned this whole audio thing is subjective early. The only way to know what you like is to try things out. Unfortunately I’ve learned the Sundaras are just not my cup of tea. And I have a huge feeling it’s the 1-5k area for sure because the dt1990s sit lower on the graph there and I love them so much. It’s like they add some spice to the music. The Sundaras are just an everything bagel to me. I love them but after a while they are not good.
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Finally... Yeah, hard to beat 600 even though it's been around forever. Actually you should make the HD 600 as a baseline to which other equipment should compared. I hope Beyer finally fixed the mount Beyer treble. I have the 880-600ohm and HD 600 beats the crap out it.
First off I love the "X" cut lol. My 990 600 ohms are my first open backs and I love them. I just ordered a pair of the 900 pro.....X. I wanted a great set of cans that are more versatile.
Curious to hear what you think coming from the 990, I don't think I've heard that one.
@@SuperReview the 990 has a v-shaped sound signature and i personally really don't like it because the treble is very overemphasized, the soundstage and imaging is great though and the 990 is good for gaming but you have to use EQ if you want to enjoy music. I've heard that the 900 has a better sound signature that is less v-shaped and has less emphasis in the treble but the soundstage is not as big.
Would they be good for producing / mixing sub heavy techno and house music?
Beyerdynamic DT 900 Pro 😈😈**X**😈😈
In my head, I hear it like ua-cam.com/video/03Zq5E6sDoQ/v-deo.html
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I'm confused between the Edifier Stax Spirit 3 or the Buyerndynamic DT900 Pro. I know its different about the driver thay use. I dont know edifier or buyerndynamic better
owned 560s for a year, too harsh, tried hd6x0 series, like the 600 the most, and really like the dt900 prox as well, cannot decide between the two.
I can get them at the same price (310 USD), which will be a better pick.
(don't like sundara, vocals are too thin, 660s too dark)
I prefer HD 600 to DT 900 Pro X overall, but both have strengths.
Who give better detiled sound and transient speed dt 900 pro or sundara ???
if i want something for listening to music and gaming do you think i should get the 700 pro x or 900 pro x
Sorry, I don't have experience with the 700, but I really really like the 900 Pro X.
@@SuperReview do you think the bass in the 900 will be enough for rap music. Im looking for something with a bit more bass than my hyperx cloud alpha s
I can't say for your preferences, for me the bass is excellent, better extended than most open back headphones. The 700 will probably be bassier if that's what you're after.
@@SuperReview not to be annoying or ask too many questions, but if you had to guess do you think the 900 pro x will have more bass than a hyperx
Sorry no idea, haven't tried the Hyper X or seen a frequency response.
The way you do X! 😂
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I was expecting throat action since the title of the video says vocal microscope. Feel let down.
OK I will make up for it with a throat video on Discord.
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I have a pair of these and love them. Ive never really got into IEMs but am keen to give some a try. Are there any $100-$200 IEMs that 900 pro x fans might enjoy?
Truthear Hexa
I'm not impressed by the headphones of today. I find them way too expensive for the sound quality they provide. It's also been a very stagnant market for many years and it doesn't seem to get better anytime soon. Quite sad, really.
Iems are where its at
Seems like most of the action in new headphones is in the kilobuck range. But HD 600 from 1997 is still my fave so far.
Well there’s only so much a single headphone can do. Even the best audio engineers use multiple headphone for multiple reasons. A new headphone can be 1,000$ more and only be 5% better. It’s small details.
Going to bed rn but I disagree on all you mentioned about the comparisons. Too much to text/ write.
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@@SuperReview Sorry, I just did my own Schoot-Out this last week. Bought (6) Top Beyerdynamics, Sennheizers 600 650, Audio Technica's, AKG;s, Shure * the Sony 7506. I won't start anything but we all hear different i suppose :) Thx
It's OK to disagree, interested to hear what you think.
@@SuperReview I’m testing for Mixing/ Mastering.
A fat man send me
DONT BUY IT. If you are a casual that wants to play some games and listen to music don't buy this headset. You will need an AMP to power it since its not as loud and isn't suitable for gaming. The headset is nothing special, i got it then instantly wanted to refund it. I wanted to upgrade from my 2-year-old HyperX Cloud 2 and holy moly the Beyerdynamics almost don't provide an upgrade from my previous headset. The headset's selling point is that you wont need an amplifier since its 48 ohms and everything around 30 ohms don't require additional hardware. Out of the box they sound nothing special. I compared the same songs using these and my old headphones, the only difference was the slight boost in bass(which is not worth the 250 euro upgrade) If anything, I come to respect my HyperX cloud 2 even more... what a legendary headset, it has spatial audio(7.1) compared to the stereo speakers of dt 900 pro x which is day and night difference in FPS games. It is louder than the 900 pro x and has a mic that Is really solid.
Try listening to music on these for a week and going back to the HyperX, you might be surprised.
@@SuperReview are you using them raw with no amp or doc?
@@totidokkan I've listened to them a lot straight out of my MacBook. I don't know how loud you listen, but I could definitely cause hearing damage with just my MacBook using the Beyers.
Omg you don’t know anything about sound,music.Hyperx better for gaming better.Haha ok true cuz gaming headset have shite frequency.They don’t need amp/dac at all.Use them on pc and never turn them more them 60% when listening to music and 30-35% plain games.And yes I use loads headsets before:
Hyperx cloud 2
Razer headphones
SteelSeries arctic pro and nova pro,Logitech g pro,audeze maxwell.
And let me tell you they not even close to dt900,dt700,dt770,dt990,HD560S and I own all of them
Bro I using DT 900 pro x on my phone 50% volume and pc 15% volume. It's easy to drive like planar IEM, loud enough to hear all detail. This headphone is really good for music out of box. Take care of your hearing
So bad review 🤨
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