. My mother used to do that at British Ropes in the UK during the Second World War, her boss was the Actor Michael Rennie. Instead of using clamps she used to splice the ends back into the wire rope, I remember her showing us the tools she used to do the job.Hard work in tough times for a young woman
That's what is called a Farms Eye, a molly hogen is a ring made from a single strand and is used like a cotter pin. Had a grade five teacher that showed us boys how to make them as a sort of shop class. My dad was a logger and could splice line like nothing, still have a few of his "Marlin spikes" that he used to open the strands (like what your doing with a screw driver).
Ya learn something new every time Jeff shares His wisdom with us. I never knew that a braided eyelet was called that. All the other fellows are right, it's easy to remember about the dead horse. Thanks for sharing and Best Wishes to everyone at Anderson Construction.
Thats property called a Flemish eye but often called a laced or braided eye or Molly Hogan eye. With a swaged clip it is rated 100% of the line WLL and approved for overhead lifting. With U-bolt clips it is rated 90% of WLL and not allowed for overhead lifting. But I can tell you from 40+ years of rigging it will not come apart, it will brake the line where it is going over something or cut open the end of the eye . . . So real world what you made is stronger than the line itself. And you are correct in the direction of your clamps, "never saddle a dead horse" is the riggers rule.
That’s not Molly Hogan that’s a farmer eye a Molly Hogan is one continuous strand, woven back into a solid ring of cable typically used in the same fashion you would use an R clip or cotter pin
in the late 70's we were doing some local logging was the last time I witnessed that. They also did the other one where you spliced two lines together for a block to run on.
made a few of these in my lifetime you dont need the clamps just some tie wire to wrap around the end so it cant unravel but these days I just take some nice strong rope and attach it around the cable with prusik knot makes it real easy to adjust it also lets you attach to the cable mid point if say you are working with a big spool of cable but you dont want to cut it or unroll the whole spool
Nice Job Mr. PayDirt Where I'm from and every rigging class or manual I've seen Calls it a Flemish Eye. Looks like the audience wore out the Old "Don't Saddle a Dead Horse" Made easy work of the stump! Need more money saving Pens? TGP
Never saddle a dead horse. The U bolt side of the clamp bites into the cable and kinks it which weakens the strands. The saddle is spread out compression. The last time I messed with a rig the wedge had the clamp built in to eliminate the U bolt portion. Nothing but compression on the cable tail
Jeff the cable you rebranded is stronger than the other. I always put a chain and hook in mine to pull trucks off the location. If it broke it was where I hadn't re braided it.
An old co worker used to call arborvitaes "Afrovitaes". He had his own version of the king's english. We wanted to write a book on all his words that he butchered.
you done the cable correct the dead end is the part that can slip and run away, so the U chokes it keeps it from running away...the saddle is along for the ride only thing that moves can be the dead end, if you saddle the dead end it will slip through the saddle I think Great Vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺🍺
If you chuck that cable into a vice, then take a teasonably stout screwdriver and stick it thru at the bottom terminus of your loop, you can turn that tail back into the Rope. No clamps needed! That is called a Flemish Eye.
Come on, I wanted to see you braid the two ends back into the cable! The video would then have been two hours long, and the audience would have heard every cuss word ever uttered by man!
hahaha that was painful to watch, you probably didn't need those clamps, even if you had just done one tuck on each strand it would've been better than those clamps, 😂
I have no I idea who Molly Hogen is and never heard that term used for a hasty eye loop. Yep you always put the saddle on the live end of the line and not the dead end. Hencet the term never saddle a dead horse.
please use a fid for opening cables... unless your fingers are Marling spikes... Like mine. It's what they were designed to do....I can splice cables of any size by myself... the key is the lever you use to separate the chords... It's not hard, once you know how. But, I do the work of giants. Making a loop without an external anchor (ie. the cable clamp) is an art.... not for wimps... loggers did this eryday, ffs... get some balz. thanks. And, it's not a Molly Hogan! Jeff didn't win... just you wait.
Have always heard, "you don't saddle a dead horse," when it comes to installing those cable clamps.
Correct. That’s what I learned many years ago.
Correct.
. My mother used to do that at British Ropes in the UK during the Second World War, her boss was the Actor Michael Rennie. Instead of using clamps she used to splice the ends back into the wire rope, I remember her showing us the tools she used to do the job.Hard work in tough times for a young woman
That's what is called a Farms Eye, a molly hogen is a ring made from a single strand and is used like a cotter pin. Had a grade five teacher that showed us boys how to make them as a sort of shop class. My dad was a logger and could splice line like nothing, still have a few of his "Marlin spikes" that he used to open the strands (like what your doing with a screw driver).
@camshaftP16 is absolutely correct.
You are correct
My late father also a logger. We had Marlin spikes also. He did a farmers eye like nothing. I ask him to teach me but he never did.
my fingers are marling spikes.... like fids.
Why not braid it back to itself and make the eye loop?
Your right about the Crosby clamps Jeff. You don't saddle a dead horse.
Gotta love that clip at the end, pulling the 637 with Kenny
The old saying goes as such, "Never saddle a dead horse," when using cabble clamps.
Jeff wins.
Don’t saddle a dead horse!! 👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
I was taught by a Louisiana boy Jeff, always remember U for useless when applying cable clamps.
Ya learn something new every time Jeff shares His wisdom with us. I never knew that a braided eyelet was called that. All the other fellows are right, it's easy to remember about the dead horse. Thanks for sharing and Best Wishes to everyone at Anderson Construction.
Jeff is wrong... just saying... he's got the terminology mixed up.
@@KenSilvers
Terminology of what ?
Why tell me ?
Go tell Jeff .
Never saddle a dead horse. Thats the rule for cable clamps
Thats property called a Flemish eye but often called a laced or braided eye or Molly Hogan eye. With a swaged clip it is rated 100% of the line WLL and approved for overhead lifting. With U-bolt clips it is rated 90% of WLL and not allowed for overhead lifting. But I can tell you from 40+ years of rigging it will not come apart, it will brake the line where it is going over something or cut open the end of the eye . . . So real world what you made is stronger than the line itself.
And you are correct in the direction of your clamps, "never saddle a dead horse" is the riggers rule.
Looks like you need a Hulk Hogan to make a Molly Hogan
Farmer’s eye! Like riding a bike, Jeff wins! 👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
like nelson on the Simpsons ... HaHa
That’s not Molly Hogan that’s a farmer eye a Molly Hogan is one continuous strand, woven back into a solid ring of cable typically used in the same fashion you would use an R clip or cotter pin
in the late 70's we were doing some local logging was the last time I witnessed that.
They also did the other one where you spliced two lines together for a block to run on.
made a few of these in my lifetime you dont need the clamps just some tie wire to wrap around the end so it cant unravel but these days I just take some nice strong rope and attach it around the cable with prusik knot makes it real easy to adjust it also lets you attach to the cable mid point if say you are working with a big spool of cable but you dont want to cut it or unroll the whole spool
Nice Job Mr. PayDirt Where I'm from and every rigging class or manual I've seen Calls it a
Flemish Eye. Looks like the audience wore out the Old "Don't Saddle a Dead Horse"
Made easy work of the stump!
Need more money saving Pens?
TGP
Never saddle a dead horse. The U bolt side of the clamp bites into the cable and kinks it which weakens the strands. The saddle is spread out compression. The last time I messed with a rig the wedge had the clamp built in to eliminate the U bolt portion. Nothing but compression on the cable tail
Jeff the cable you rebranded is stronger than the other. I always put a chain and hook in mine to pull trucks off the location. If it broke it was where I hadn't re braided it.
Awesome
Haha
Jeff my buddy tell me u didn't use a D9 to pull a shrub??lol as usual bro u are the man,hilarious, cheers bro.
Deadman side, yes you got it right!
That foilage was definitely no match.
An old co worker used to call arborvitaes "Afrovitaes". He had his own version of the king's english. We wanted to write a book on all his words that he butchered.
The ol 14 didn't even grunt!
you done the cable correct the dead end is the part that can slip and run away, so the U chokes it keeps it from running away...the saddle is along for the ride only thing that moves can be the dead end, if you saddle the dead end it will slip through the saddle I think Great Vid 👍👍👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺🍺
On the clamps. Remember you saddle the horse.. aka main / live line.. the hoop goes on the dead end!!
I wondered why the grader was parked west of your house.
I agree with the clamp orientation.
I was told you shouldn't 'saddle a dead horse' 😃😃
Enjoyed this video bro, those shrubs did not put up much of a fight. Safe travels. Ken.
Look up, Hangin with Dadio or CSC. Nashville I believe. Cool dude that does it for a living.
Jeff won again 😂 Didn’t know that’s what those loops were called. Learned something new again from Paydirt University.
cuz that isn't what it's called ... haha
Kinda like a Mary hagan? Round toits first cousint? I’m confused?
You mean Festus Hagen's girl
If you chuck that cable into a vice, then take a teasonably stout screwdriver and stick it thru at the bottom terminus of your loop, you can turn that tail back into the Rope. No clamps needed! That is called a Flemish Eye.
you id it right
Mr Paydirt I thought you was going to have Mr Griffin doing jumprope on the 2nd pull . Was that crosses I seen by that powe rpole ? 😮
How are the knees though? Nice Ol' Kenny outro, thanks.
Juniper trees AKA Roman candles
I thought that was known as a Flemish loop?
I dated Molly once. Interesting experience. 😁
Come on, I wanted to see you braid the two ends back into the cable! The video would then have been two hours long, and the audience would have heard every cuss word ever uttered by man!
988a cat loader runs and operates is $4,200 a good deal? Its only $2,500 to get it shipped to my house 178 miles total so $6,700 all in.
worth that in scrap
You always litter your own yard like that?😊
Not bad for 3 finger Joe
I was Taught never saddle a dead horse
Thks Jeff I didn't no it was called that
cuz it's not...
They should have a sign by your house that says j pay at play give your horse a nay or jeff might need 2 pay
It would look the same as "slow children at play"
They are lays. strands are the wires that make the lay . Aka. 7 lay - 6 wire - cored ( fiber or steel ) We call those Okie eyes ! Jeff wins!
Who's Molly Hogan?
hahaha that was painful to watch, you probably didn't need those clamps, even if you had just done one tuck on each strand it would've been better than those clamps, 😂
I have no I idea who Molly Hogen is and never heard that term used for a hasty eye loop. Yep you always put the saddle on the live end of the line and not the dead end. Hencet the term never saddle a dead horse.
please use a fid for opening cables... unless your fingers are Marling spikes... Like mine. It's what they were designed to do....I can splice cables of any size by myself... the key is the lever you use to separate the chords... It's not hard, once you know how. But, I do the work of giants. Making a loop without an external anchor (ie. the cable clamp) is an art.... not for wimps... loggers did this eryday, ffs... get some balz. thanks. And, it's not a Molly Hogan! Jeff didn't win... just you wait.
You obviously don't know what you're doing you went the wrong way😂
Went for the pink potted the brown!
@@markfoster6110 Not again.... I hate when I do that. Just like when some one calls me a Molly Hogan. You Bastages!