I live near to athichanallur. We have already a museum but not impressive one . now new museum with more facility and attraction is being built by TN govt in near by city Thirunelveli. Athichanallur is part of River Tamirabarani civilization . TN govt also has their own archaeological department . Recently built very beautiful museum in Keeladi ( near Madurai ) we call River Vaigai civilization .
@ even Tamil Nadu and Srilanka landmass are one once upon a time . I mean like billion years ago . There are some land crust went underneath sea. But it’s not like a big continent connecting Africa and astralia as depicted . Even now you can see tiny island with in the vicinity of kanykumari .
Some people don't want to uneath the real history of this subcontinent, which will be a headache for all false narrative they build for thousands of years.
The tamilnadu govt talks more about dravidian culture but doesnt promote anything for the tamils. This site is known for more that 190 years, in fact one of yhe oldest known in india, but just ignored it because they dont care at all. They care more to make money but not our history. 😒
The reason that TN will not be discussed is simple . TN history will rival the so undiscovered Saraswathi civilization and even predates anything found in the North
@@superman-q6p3mThe Harappan civilization also known the Sindhu-Sarwaswati civilization is the civilization (Harappa) that extended much beyond and much older demolishing the Aryan Invasion theory.
@@superman-q6p3m The Sarasvati The Rigveda lavishes praise on Sarasvati, the goddess-cum-river, as 'flowing from the mountain to the sea', while a 'hymn in praise of rivers' specifically locates the Sarasvati between the Yamuna and the Sutlej. Intriguingly, the rivers listed are from east to west, while Aryan immigrants would have listed them from west to east. Later literature, such as the Mahabharata, describes the Sarasvati as disappearing in the desert; in time, the river becomes a metaphor for loss. However, since the nineteenth century, its dried-up bed has been traced by geologists and topographers. A map of the rivers listed in the Rigveda's 'Hymn in praise of rivers' Part of a bronze figurine from Mohenjo-daro, with an anklet Nothing in our knowledge of India's protohistory warrants a sharp demarcation. Also it runs from the Shivalik Hills in Haryana (where a petty stream called 'Sarsuti' still exists today), is joined by several tributaries, proceeds through Punjab, Rajasthan and Pakistan's Cholistan desert in a course south of the Indus, all the way to the Rann of Kutch. At its widest, the Ghaggar-Hakra, as it is locally called, exceeds six kilometres, and most experts have proposed that the Sutlej and the Yamuna once contributed to it. When was the Sarasvati reduced to a seasonal stream in its upper reaches? Archaeology again provides an answer, as some 360 Harappan settlements have been enumerated in the river's basin since the 1940s. And almost all the settlements located in that basin's central part.
@@superman-q6p3m I’d there was a migration,picnic, tourism then why are Indian texts silent? manuscript of the Rig-Veda, India's most ancient text. Harappan cities, like Dholavira here (in the Rann of Kutchh), show no evidence of having been destroyed by invaders negative, however. Had Aryans come, the Indus civilization would be culturally pre- Vedic, while the Gangetic civilization of the first millennium BCE would be Vedic, so that we would have a wide cultural gulf between the two-a gulf earlier referred to as a 'Dark Age' or 'Vedic Night'. But in recent decades, numerous bridges. have, on the contrary, come to light, both in technical fields (from construction or metallurgy. to water systems and agriculture) and in cultural areas: Harappan seals depicting deities seated in yogic postures, female figurines with sindoor (vermilion) applied at the parting of the hair, male figurines in various asanas (some doing a namaste), fire and sacrificial altars, worship of a Mother goddess, reverence for the swastika, a linga-like object, the trishula and the ashvattha (or pipal) tree, and ornaments, such as anklets, among many others. (For further information, see article 'The Harappan Legacy', BBC Knowledge, April 2012) The emerging picture is that of a cultural continuum from India's prehistory to its historical phase in the Indo-Gangetic plains. As the US archaeologist Jonathan Mark Kenoyer puts it, "Current studies of the transition between the two early urban civilizations claim that there was no significant break or hiatus."
Do You know? Nirmal Sitharaman is from Tamil nadu., but not Tamilian. People in Union Government is not like KEEZHADI, Porunai & Adhichanalloor. They are interested in Saraswathi river.
Rightly said; we people of TN feel that the government(union govt) have ignored such sites intentionally to not to uncover the values of the History behind a great civilisation from south. Whereas they should proud to expose such a Civilsation from South east Asia
Thank you for your service and support to bring light to ancient Indian civilizations. Ancient Tamil civilization to be the front liners with tons of archeological evidences & facts. The artifacts belongs to Tamil Civilization and not the fake Dravidian identity. Thank you.
Union government is north indian centric and only buys into the idea that North is the oldest civilization and from that comes all other civilization of current India. They want to portray it that way. Keeladi excavanations womt be part of CBSE syllabus and they will not add in history books despite its huge significance. This is because they want to demoralise the idea that Tamil was the oldest language. That is why education should be state subject and not union subject. Otherwise the ones with majority will try erasing the history of others like the current union government is doing.
I am from North india and i want to convey you that i am very much proud of excavation. It doesn't matter to me which is more ancient. History should be taught and accepted as it is. Cbse should definitely include this in curriculum.At the end we all indians and we should not be divided on North and South.
Dinesh manoharan, shed your typical anti Hindu and anti north approach like your friends ! Whatever is true and established must find a place in history books irrespective of identity or place !
Why do you think the Mascot of Dravidian Concept pathetic-ologoy DMK Govt not showing any interest in brining out the Truth of Civilizational depths of Southern Bharat, namely, TamilNadu? It puts a big hole in their Anti-Hindu/Sanatana stand, just to divide people with mis-information built concept of Dravidian people.
You are politically brainwashed. The only agenda Dravidian politicians have is to hate North Indians. Do North Indian political parties have any hate agenda against South Indians ?
Thamizh (Tamil) is the oldest living language under the sun. Tamils invented the IRON (IYAM is the Tamil word became Iron in English) Tamils invented the Various IRON Making technology. Racist Indian government still NOT published FULL report of the Archeological research in Athicha Nallor despite the research was done 100 years ago. Almost all Culverts and oldest archeological evidence found in Tamilnadu, the racist Indian government STILL NOT opened an Indian Archeological Branch in Tamilnadu and DELIBERATELY NOT Funding enough to do more research in Tamilnadu despite Tamilnadu pay the second largest tax.
Tamil Nadu is the fourth largest contributer to the central tax kitty and Maharashtra is the largest contributer and contributes three times more than Tamil Nadu and by doing that it understands that poorer states need more focus and Tamil Nadu should also understand that. I mean Maharashtra is the only state government apart from UP which are making their own expressways without any central money. Even after this complete neglect should not be done and anything special anywhere in the country must be taken care of by the central government with the respective State government.
@vardhanmhatre1731 75% Tax revenue collected from a State, MUST be given to the Hardworking State than SPOILING the LAZY States. The racist Indian government Wasting Vast amount of Tax revenue to the Dead Sanskrit than Other languages including the world oldest living language Thamizh.
Yes I've also heard about how our sanatan ancestors used to make pottery and live in huge golden palaces and flying around in anti gravity transportation firing nuclear warheads with bows and doing all the crazy shits when the whole other world was living under rocks eating worms
@@superman-q6p3m For the benefit of you people. Baked *figurines* go back as early as 25,000 years. *Pottery* is a different matter. Fired Pottery was invented in the Middle East around 7000 BC followed by the Pottery Wheel and spread to Europe, Asia, Africa. Vessels carved from stone are much older ~15,000 years. The oldest pottery is from the Amur region at the intersection of Korea, Japan(Jomon), Russia and also China. Dates range from 14,000 BC to 18,000 BC. Spectacular Pottery that involved clay strips. This did not spread. If anybody says pottery anywhere in India is older than 7000 years, chances are they are totally wrong.
Harappan frenzy was started in the 50s before these sites were made prominent though covered extensively. Not a Northern frenzy. I am from Nellore district.
It is 100% north south divide. Some of these sites were found 100 years before during the British period. One best example is the Keezhadi site. The Archeology Department of india closed it after 3rd phase and transferred the chief Archeologist to Assam. TN Archeology department continued the excavation and found evidence of the 7th century BCE urban center. Also, less than 5% of funds get allocated to Southern division. Atleast TN govt spending whatever money they can. But there are so many sites in Andhra/Telungana area. Nothing is happening there.
@hiteshkumar3268 that's why Adhichanallur was neglected by ASI and Keeladi was never excavate by ASI and escalated by Tamil Nadu Archaeological Department. 😀
Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, Rakhigarhi, Adichanallur, Korkai are part of a single brown skinned Dravidian civilization. Ambedkar calls them Nagas. They lived right from the borders of Afghanistan to Tamilnadu. The Aryan nomadic cow herders systematically and violently pushed them South of the Deccan. This of course took millenia. They then occupied what is now Pakistan and North India. The Dravidians resisted them and you would find the greatest resistance to them in the Southernmost part called Tamilnadu.
Wow a 6 meter radius urn that's amazing that an urn so big survived. You could fit a huge amount into such a huge urn, 12 meters in diameter. Any idea how they could have made these enormous urns. This should be a world heritage site. Amazing news. We are still waiting for the metro for 12 years in Bangalore, and it's going really slow, so 5 years is nothing. Let's hope it comes up soon. It will need to be a really big museum to fit these urns
Many archaeology sites of the Tamils were and are being destroyed in Illangai and South East Asia. This is to create their own identity which suite their present idealogy.
Whatever the union government imposed hardships on our history and our recent development, we people of tamil nadu will fight against the all hardships of higherarchy paarppaans officials applied on us we will never bother and rise as phoenix birds,no body stop us,because we are fighting on our true survival of our truth of our humanity.
If it is a most epic and greatest and largest and most important thing. If it locates in Tamil Nadu means Indian government will easily ignore that That's how it is going..
You are a little late to the party. There is no Harappa 'frenzy' (it is clear that someone asked you to insert the word). People like Sanjeev Sanyal have been talking for years about the vastness and unity of the Saraswati-Sindhu dig sites, which include the relatively smaller sites of Harappa and Mohenjodaro. We would welcome _any_ 'frenzy' about Bharat's civilizational heritage, even if it is 'Harappa frenzy'. Right now, it is just crickets.
what Saraswati-Sindhu thats a lie that bjp is spewing all they do is talk with out proof or attempt to prove it even though they spend crores of money to link indus vally with sanskrit despite the the lack of evidence and the seals obtained have been deciphered in tamil but they refuse to agree even though keeladi has found to be of similar architecture and similar seals and inscriptions along with tamili letters have been excavated which bjp shut down with all its might until people pushed back and forced to make the state gov take control of it and continue. its not congress in power its bjp. if there was such a civilisation they would have dug it out by now and not just point fingers you do realise that they are in power right? dont believe every thing bjp and their propagandists say like a child.
The Adichannalur site's museum had its foundation stone inaugurated last year in August, hopefully we see the museum coming up soon. Look forward to it!
interesting subject and presented with much enthusiasm. Can be lot more interesting if content is made less repetitive and to the point showing more photos, docs, etc.
I don't think any region in the world has nearly a rich history as the Indian subcontinent only if our archeological department was more well funded, Gods know how many priceless relics maybe even whole ancient cities are buried under agricultural lands and villages...long forgotten by everyone
What is Hinduism? +++++++++++++++ I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that sweepingly generalises the 'Indian' people and sitting on their head (as cultural hegemony) and have come up with some conclusions .... A group of priest from the Zoroastrian religion (known as Aryans) came to 'India' with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans to form the Oral Vedas which was never in written form (modern Sanskrit) until after the 5th century AD. These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition( the mother of Jainism and Buddhism) that originated in the Indus Valley Civilization and thrived all over the sub continent with Tamizh and started incorporating(stealing)it into their already existent vaiteegam (senseless fire ritual) and produced the Upanishad (later even the Bhagavad-Gita and Epics were hijacked) and became vegetarians. For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophized Tamizh (Samana Palli language just as Prakrit is Jain and Pali is Buddhist) infused land(Sanatan Dharma- people's religiosity)about the 8th century scribes like Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist(Sunya-Void) thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time. Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition about the 10th century and put forth the bakti methodology (blind surrender). This was inspired by the Christian tradition also. Bakti was based on subtle erotism and appealed to the masses(like cinemas). The high Samana Tantra philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured Saiva and Vainava cult of the wretched puranic tales (porn stories). This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples(lifeless stone worship) that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers( Brahmin admixtured race such as Vaduga Telugus) firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste (karmic birth) institution (twisted from the Samana four occupational make-up of society aka Farmers, Merchants, Rulers, Philosophers) with the insidious brahmin malicious agenda of Non-Dharmic segregation (untouchability) which the colonial British gave the general name by which sealing the new found religion hence the Brahmanic hegemony as Hindooism....
Absolutely. An urn with a 6 meter radius opening is bigger than my 30x40 house. I cannot imagine the technology needed to build this urn but it's more than the Egyptians or Ancient Greeks had. Amazing discovery
Indian union government fear to allocate budget for tamilnadu archaeological department. Because tamilnadu always getting archaeological evidence which are very very oldest in whole india
TamiZh is the oldest language.Even its teh mother language to Sanskrit.there is no doubt about this as you can only find root word/meaning only from Thamizh
Please do an investigative report on why these projects allocated so much money have not made any progress! Please we would appreciate a detailed analysis report why nothing has been done even after such a big allocation of cash. Thanks.
This is the problem from the beginning of independence. If any development is done in South India, it is because South Indians are doing it themselves. Not because you get support from the Central government.....
I'm sure The Print can manage with something better than a selfie video. A 15 minute video and I'm still not the wiser about what she wants to convey. Needs better research n presentation.
Pornai nadhi civilization should be considered with indus valley civilisation....here after our history book should be start with both of this civilizations❤
When we have a govt which tries to depict mythology as history, this is expected not to spend time effort or money about actual history based on science and evidence...
can we keep politics out of this. we are discovering this over time and we improve our understanding over time it doesn’t matter who was discovered first. both are fascinating and i am proud both. kind of urban centers are part of my history
Tamil language develop Sanskrit language and make it religion religion now this Sanskrit believe they older then Tamil language the narrative and education is copy paste from Tamil
Chu...madrasi ... Vedic Sanskrit is indo-European language ....your tandu vundu language didn't create Sanskrit on a contrary many Dravidian languages have loan Sanskrit words
You are doing a great job. I wish you great success. A few things to note. You have to learn how to pronounce all the phenomes in all Indian alphabets, may be you have to learn about 10 to 20 from what you additionally already know. In addition to this it would be good to learn tone and accent which is important in languages like Punjabi and some NE languages. Mispronouncing words distracts listeners and conveys incorrect meanings and contexts, often covering up clues to further discoveries. Etymology of words, names are very important in historical analysis and research. Unfortunately, most of the education in India is sloppy and positions are filled up with mediocre folks with legacy connections. This need to change.
Why bring caste in archeological findings. So far nothing conclusive is brought out about the social structure of Aduchichanallur or Keeladi. If there was no caste system in dravidians how come so many non brahmin castes have come up.
You won't get any answer. Brahmins were so smart and (the rest were so dumb?) they created thousands of castes all across India lol. Now even after so called justice movement lol why do they continue to follow caste?
It's a burial site,RSS which wants a vedic narrative of our past ( which is cremation) would not be interested. TN govt which is fund strapped will not do on its own despite having a dept for it. Amaranth Ramakrishna who says Mahabharata is a myth and part of IAD, should get his communist mp cousin Su Venakyesan to create noise in parliament about this. Maybe keen followers like us wl not see anything much in our lifetime, but may be in the next
Dude everybody used to bury in the past. Even the Vedas talk about it. Cremation started during late Indus times. Don't try to find a binary in everything. Reality is much more complex, not stupid DMK vs RSS crap. Get your head out of your rear end and read something.
Evidence for an aryan immigration or a Vedic civilization is absent at any time in history Population genetics confirms the presence of Steppe ancestry from 2200bc until 1900bc when it appears the menace of frequent raids by indo european War Bands , compelled abandonment of the IVC cities and migration to safee regions. The raids evidently moved to the indo gangetic plains from 1500bc until 100AD, During the period native AASI males were displaced, creating the new wide spread ANI population with Steppe ancestry. The raids and the inter mixing ended with the practice of Endogamy and Caste hierarchy and segregation, apparently with the presence of large armies in the region also confirming the regular active presence of west eurasians
Harappa remains a frenzy for a very rightful reason.Dont create an artificial counter narrative to make your videos more spicy. You are using ajinomoto not quality spices.
whats more unfortunafe is whats more popular is made tolook like it exists. and this is what ecposes the double talk of those certifying themselves as patriots and lecture others on it while ignoring a part of the couhtry as per own descrition.
What about Aryan invasion theory.this present government doesn't seem to recognise it. Even Balgangadhar Tilak said that Aryans came from Arctic region.
Hi mam you are very much welcome to vist the sits and State . social activist fought with union government to protect this sites as national paties or Sanskrit fundamentalist have created lots of stories and fooled the gullible north east and west indians , the history, facts will shake the base of the false narative ... They have caused all truble in disrupting the work , madam Nirmala came personally and insisting on closing the archeological sites and strong protest from Social activists only stopped them and chaned the in-charge and replaced with a sinki inchage who is anti tamil in blood was appointed its the state govt. , social activist and common stood to protect their history ... Pls do a septate vidoeo ... The story was too wage and less information... More are avaliable and we can take this vidoe as an intro .... Good start ...
If India acted like China, it would reclaim all the lands related to Indus Valley Civilization from Pakistan. Because it's the same narrative with Tibet, right? As Tibet was part of the Qing Dynasty. Just because Pakistan is nuclear armed, it does not mean we can't claim. Make my taxes proud, India.
Well, its south india, and moreover, its tamil nadu. The state that is most hated by the centre and north indians alike. So there's no reason to hope there would be any incentive of the centre to excavate more or preserve the already exsisting evidence. If anything, they'd be willing to destroy all evidences
There is a very unfortunate and unfounded comment below saying that this site is being neglected because North Indians are against it and the Tamil language/people. Just because we had bad history textbooks, doesn't mean that when they learn about it all Indians are not immensely proud of the spread of the Chola Empire and the tremendous influence of Indian culture in all of South East Asia. Similarly, I simply don't see how any Indian from the North would not be proud to learn of the stunning mathematical contributions of Madhava and the Kerala school of Astronomy.
@@vivek1raja Quite likely true, but you put three people in a room and they will disagree. Until about a hundred years ago, hardly any Indian ever traveled more than 50 miles from his village in his entire life. On the whole, there is much more than unites north and south India than divides them.
India was a neutral word that everyone accepted. It is derived from the Sindhu river. Now by renaming as Bharat you will lose a large number of hearts. Just be careful what you wish for.
@@sundalmurugan4208 idiot . Go and read real history. Before bharatha word came into existence and the people speaking it, there was civilization even before the people who used to call themselves of part of bharat .. LEARN TO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH 12TH FAIL GAWAAAAR!!!
Thank you print for talking about the culture of the land, the true trait of mother India embedded in all of us.
I live near to athichanallur. We have already a museum but not impressive one .
now new museum with more facility and attraction is being built by TN govt in near by city Thirunelveli. Athichanallur is part of River Tamirabarani civilization .
TN govt also has their own archaeological department . Recently built very beautiful museum in Keeladi ( near Madurai ) we call River Vaigai civilization .
Is there a drowned Tamil continent too
@ even Tamil Nadu and Srilanka landmass are one once upon a time . I mean like billion years ago .
There are some land crust went underneath sea. But it’s not like a big continent connecting Africa and astralia as depicted .
Even now you can see tiny island with in the vicinity of kanykumari .
@@Popularfuzzyking-t1z no, that's fictional
@@Nirmalcb 500 years ago, not billions
@@Nirmalcb also similar burial sites are found near coastal srilankan areas suggesting continuity of culture
Archeology is a joke in India. Government is completely useless in the perservation of this places. I am 2006 BA Arecheology graduate.
They don't want scientific study, because the history propaganda cannot be done effectively, if people are scientifically aware of the history.
Some people don't want to uneath the real history of this subcontinent, which will be a headache for all false narrative they build for thousands of years.
Yes bro.but this Indian government more on religion site
Fact!
The tamilnadu govt talks more about dravidian culture but doesnt promote anything for the tamils. This site is known for more that 190 years, in fact one of yhe oldest known in india, but just ignored it because they dont care at all. They care more to make money but not our history. 😒
The reason that TN will not be discussed is simple . TN history will rival the so undiscovered Saraswathi civilization and even predates anything found in the North
No such civilization called sarawath
@@superman-q6p3mThe Harappan civilization also known the Sindhu-Sarwaswati civilization is the civilization (Harappa) that extended much beyond and much older demolishing the Aryan Invasion theory.
@@superman-q6p3m The Sarasvati
The Rigveda lavishes praise on Sarasvati, the goddess-cum-river, as 'flowing from the mountain to the sea', while a 'hymn
in praise of rivers' specifically locates the Sarasvati between the Yamuna and the Sutlej. Intriguingly, the rivers listed are from east to west, while Aryan immigrants would have listed them from west to east. Later literature, such as the Mahabharata, describes the Sarasvati as disappearing
in the desert; in time, the river becomes
a metaphor for loss. However, since the nineteenth century, its dried-up bed has been traced by geologists and topographers.
A map of the rivers listed in the Rigveda's 'Hymn in praise of rivers' Part of a bronze figurine from Mohenjo-daro, with an anklet
Nothing in our knowledge of India's protohistory warrants a sharp demarcation. Also it runs from the Shivalik Hills in Haryana (where a petty stream called 'Sarsuti' still exists today), is joined by several tributaries, proceeds through Punjab, Rajasthan and Pakistan's Cholistan desert in a course south of the Indus, all the way to the Rann of Kutch. At its widest, the Ghaggar-Hakra, as it is locally called, exceeds six kilometres, and most experts have proposed that the Sutlej and the Yamuna once contributed to it.
When was the Sarasvati reduced to a seasonal stream in its upper reaches? Archaeology again provides an answer, as some 360 Harappan settlements have
been enumerated in the river's basin since the 1940s. And almost all the settlements located in that basin's central part.
@@superman-q6p3m I’d there was a migration,picnic, tourism then why are Indian texts silent? manuscript of the Rig-Veda, India's most ancient text. Harappan cities, like Dholavira here (in the Rann of Kutchh), show no evidence of having been destroyed by invaders
negative, however. Had Aryans come, the Indus civilization would be culturally pre- Vedic, while the Gangetic civilization of the first millennium BCE would be Vedic, so that we would have a wide cultural gulf between the two-a gulf earlier referred to as a 'Dark Age' or 'Vedic Night'. But in recent decades, numerous bridges. have, on the contrary, come to light, both in technical fields
(from construction or metallurgy. to water systems and agriculture) and in cultural areas: Harappan seals depicting deities seated in yogic postures, female figurines with sindoor (vermilion) applied at the parting of the hair, male figurines in various asanas (some doing a namaste), fire and sacrificial altars, worship of a Mother goddess,
reverence for the swastika, a linga-like object, the trishula and the ashvattha (or pipal) tree, and ornaments, such as anklets, among many others. (For further information, see article 'The Harappan Legacy', BBC Knowledge, April 2012)
The emerging picture is that of a cultural continuum from India's prehistory to its historical phase in the Indo-Gangetic plains. As the US archaeologist Jonathan Mark Kenoyer puts it, "Current studies of the transition between the two early urban civilizations claim that there was no significant break or hiatus."
@@superman-q6p3m stop falling for western propaganda.
Do You know? Nirmal Sitharaman is from Tamil nadu., but not Tamilian. People in Union Government is not like KEEZHADI, Porunai & Adhichanalloor. They are interested in Saraswathi river.
@@superman-q6p3mshe is தெலுங்கு
You should interview Mannar Mannan a Tamil historian which has so much evidence on ancient Iron smelting technology by the southern Tamils.
Adhellam panna matangu bro. Ellam moodi maraikanumnu pakurangu.
As long as the aaryan( who occupied india) in power in the union government , they should not allow to reveal the ancient history of tamils and south.
Lots of love from tamilnadu 👍🙏
Rightly said; we people of TN feel that the government(union govt) have ignored such sites intentionally to not to uncover the values of the History behind a great civilisation from south. Whereas they should proud to expose such a Civilsation from South east Asia
Thanks for covering this. We need good people in place to do this job dedicatedly. நன்றி...
You are absolutely right
Thank you for your service and support to bring light to ancient Indian civilizations. Ancient Tamil civilization to be the front liners with tons of archeological evidences & facts.
The artifacts belongs to Tamil Civilization and not the fake Dravidian identity. Thank you.
Union government is north indian centric and only buys into the idea that North is the oldest civilization and from that comes all other civilization of current India. They want to portray it that way.
Keeladi excavanations womt be part of CBSE syllabus and they will not add in history books despite its huge significance. This is because they want to demoralise the idea that Tamil was the oldest language. That is why education should be state subject and not union subject. Otherwise the ones with majority will try erasing the history of others like the current union government is doing.
I am from North india and i want to convey you that i am very much proud of excavation. It doesn't matter to me which is more ancient. History should be taught and accepted as it is. Cbse should definitely include this in curriculum.At the end we all indians and we should not be divided on North and South.
You seem politically brainwashed. Please stop doing North South and stop listening to your idiot politicians.
Dinesh manoharan, shed your typical anti Hindu and anti north approach like your friends ! Whatever is true and established must find a place in history books irrespective of identity or place !
Why do you think the Mascot of Dravidian Concept pathetic-ologoy DMK Govt not showing any interest in brining out the Truth of Civilizational depths of Southern Bharat, namely, TamilNadu? It puts a big hole in their Anti-Hindu/Sanatana stand, just to divide people with mis-information built concept of Dravidian people.
You are politically brainwashed. The only agenda Dravidian politicians have is to hate North Indians.
Do North Indian political parties have any hate agenda against South Indians ?
Thamizh (Tamil) is the oldest living language under the sun.
Tamils invented the IRON (IYAM is the Tamil word became Iron in English)
Tamils invented the Various IRON Making technology.
Racist Indian government still NOT published FULL report of the Archeological research in Athicha Nallor despite the research was done 100 years ago. Almost all Culverts and oldest archeological evidence found in Tamilnadu, the racist Indian government STILL NOT opened an Indian Archeological Branch in Tamilnadu and DELIBERATELY NOT Funding enough to do more research in Tamilnadu despite Tamilnadu pay the second largest tax.
And what is the State Government doing.?
It eas applicable with state govt also as the regime dravida is anti tamils. @@DavidDLalsa
Tamil Nadu is the fourth largest contributer to the central tax kitty and Maharashtra is the largest contributer and contributes three times more than Tamil Nadu and by doing that it understands that poorer states need more focus and Tamil Nadu should also understand that. I mean Maharashtra is the only state government apart from UP which are making their own expressways without any central money. Even after this complete neglect should not be done and anything special anywhere in the country must be taken care of by the central government with the respective State government.
@vardhanmhatre1731 75% Tax revenue collected from a State, MUST be given to the Hardworking State than SPOILING the LAZY States.
The racist Indian government Wasting Vast amount of Tax revenue to the Dead Sanskrit than Other languages including the world oldest living language Thamizh.
@@DavidDLalsa it has published
Finally someone raised this topic🎉
Thanks a lots behalf of all tamils people 🎉🎉🎉
World first iron age in Tamil Nadu in 10000 years old
Please do a story of the older than 20000 years pottery found in Manipur. The test was done at the centre of glass and ceramic institute.
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Tell me about it .
Yes I've also heard about how our sanatan ancestors used to make pottery and live in huge golden palaces and flying around in anti gravity transportation firing nuclear warheads with bows and doing all the crazy shits when the whole other world was living under rocks eating worms
@@superman-q6p3m For the benefit of you people.
Baked *figurines* go back as early as 25,000 years.
*Pottery* is a different matter. Fired Pottery was invented in the Middle East around 7000 BC followed by the Pottery Wheel and spread to Europe, Asia, Africa. Vessels carved from stone are much older ~15,000 years.
The oldest pottery is from the Amur region at the intersection of Korea, Japan(Jomon), Russia and also China. Dates range from 14,000 BC to 18,000 BC. Spectacular Pottery that involved clay strips. This did not spread.
If anybody says pottery anywhere in India is older than 7000 years, chances are they are totally wrong.
Harappan frenzy was started in the 50s before these sites were made prominent though covered extensively. Not a Northern frenzy.
I am from Nellore district.
Aryan settled in south like a leech😅
They too know, they just want to keep click bait title & then use north, south propaganda like others😂
It is 100% north south divide. Some of these sites were found 100 years before during the British period. One best example is the Keezhadi site. The Archeology Department of india closed it after 3rd phase and transferred the chief Archeologist to Assam. TN Archeology department continued the excavation and found evidence of the 7th century BCE urban center.
Also, less than 5% of funds get allocated to Southern division.
Atleast TN govt spending whatever money they can. But there are so many sites in Andhra/Telungana area. Nothing is happening there.
Thanks for taking about it....🎉
Suddenly, some Northies realise that Tamils and Tamil Nadu are a part of India. But Sanghis will never realise.
Stop it man no one thinks like that , please come out of that sick mentality & I am not from north , but Indian from south
@hiteshkumar3268 that's why Adhichanallur was neglected by ASI and Keeladi was never excavate by ASI and escalated by Tamil Nadu Archaeological Department. 😀
@ Mr oversmart their are more than couple from bihar even they were neglected .
Please tell me if you have ever travel outside tamilnadu
At least you speak about this matter. Appreciate your efforts.
Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, Rakhigarhi, Adichanallur, Korkai are part of a single brown skinned Dravidian civilization. Ambedkar calls them Nagas. They lived right from the borders of Afghanistan to Tamilnadu. The Aryan nomadic cow herders systematically and violently pushed them South of the Deccan. This of course took millenia. They then occupied what is now Pakistan and North India. The Dravidians resisted them and you would find the greatest resistance to them in the Southernmost part called Tamilnadu.
Please elaborate this is very noteworthy to understand what were the timelines
Kumari Kandam Bakwas of a Tamil nationalist.
Unfortunately your delusions and fabricated history doesn't match with reality.
Then what happened to indo-iranian people?
Cuz they came before Aryans.
How do you know the dravidians did not violently push out the ones before them
Proud to say Tamilan ❤..
Visit keezhadi also near Madurai
Finally a Genuine and Honest Archaeologist northern india, who wanted to tell the truth...Thanks Disha for the realization and revelation😊
Wow a 6 meter radius urn that's amazing that an urn so big survived. You could fit a huge amount into such a huge urn, 12 meters in diameter. Any idea how they could have made these enormous urns. This should be a world heritage site. Amazing news. We are still waiting for the metro for 12 years in Bangalore, and it's going really slow, so 5 years is nothing. Let's hope it comes up soon. It will need to be a really big museum to fit these urns
visit the Keezhadi museum. & what exactly do you want to convey in this video?
Nothing, just north, south divide 😅 suddenly "The print" respects southern or as they say the south
Interesting talk on Adhichamalur.
India should be proud of its ancient history but it is left to Westerners to proclaim loudly about the amazing history.
North Indians should first accept the oldest civilization started in South India
The Hindi govt of Modi wont accept our Tamil culture... We tamils don't give a fk about the hindi govt.
Tamil are untouchables, shudra's
Many archaeology sites of the Tamils were and are being destroyed in Illangai and South East Asia. This is to create their own identity which suite their present idealogy.
❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉 very important informations thank you
A relevant post with more dates, images, locations and videos would be good
a pure love from tamil nadu
Whatever the union government imposed hardships on our history and our recent development, we people of tamil nadu will fight against the all hardships of higherarchy paarppaans officials applied on us we will never bother and rise as phoenix birds,no body stop us,because we are fighting on our true survival of our truth of our humanity.
If it is a most epic and greatest and largest and most important thing. If it locates in Tamil Nadu means Indian government will easily ignore that That's how it is going..
You are a little late to the party. There is no Harappa 'frenzy' (it is clear that someone asked you to insert the word). People like Sanjeev Sanyal have been talking for years about the vastness and unity of the Saraswati-Sindhu dig sites, which include the relatively smaller sites of Harappa and Mohenjodaro. We would welcome _any_ 'frenzy' about Bharat's civilizational heritage, even if it is 'Harappa frenzy'. Right now, it is just crickets.
There is nothing called saraswati sindhu civilization history cannot be changed by changing names.
Sanghi spotted from a mile away
@@vivek1raja You are being silly
what Saraswati-Sindhu thats a lie that bjp is spewing all they do is talk with out proof or attempt to prove it even though they spend crores of money to link indus vally with sanskrit despite the the lack of evidence and the seals obtained have been deciphered in tamil but they refuse to agree even though keeladi has found to be of similar architecture and similar seals and inscriptions along with tamili letters have been excavated which bjp shut down with all its might until people pushed back and forced to make the state gov take control of it and continue. its not congress in power its bjp. if there was such a civilisation they would have dug it out by now and not just point fingers you do realise that they are in power right? dont believe every thing bjp and their propagandists say like a child.
@@nrusimha11in what way you want us to react when hearing your continuous bull shit? Tamil civilisation is the oldest in the world.
I would love to also know more about Chandraketugarh, a 2500 year old archaeological site in Bengal. Don't hear much about it really.
What's the state archeological department is doing in Bengal?
Now Sivagalai predate adichanallur and just 15km away. Sivagalai graffiti also predate indus script. Only drawback Not yet found habitation.
Very interesting topic. Never knew the info.
But you can improve the presentation with illustrations like map, photos or time charts.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏
The Adichannalur site's museum had its foundation stone inaugurated last year in August, hopefully we see the museum coming up soon. Look forward to it!
interesting subject and presented with much enthusiasm. Can be lot more interesting if content is made less repetitive and to the point showing more photos, docs, etc.
I don't think any region in the world has nearly a rich history as the Indian subcontinent only if our archeological department was more well funded, Gods know how many priceless relics maybe even whole ancient cities are buried under agricultural lands and villages...long forgotten by everyone
What is Hinduism?
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I have long pondered on what constitutes this so called religion that sweepingly generalises the 'Indian' people and sitting on their head (as cultural hegemony) and have come up with some conclusions ....
A group of priest from the Zoroastrian religion (known as Aryans) came to 'India' with their Avestan language and fire rituals and later created some slogans to form the Oral Vedas which was never in written form (modern Sanskrit) until after the 5th century AD.
These priest learnt the principles of the Samana tradition( the mother of Jainism and Buddhism) that originated in the Indus Valley Civilization and thrived all over the sub continent with Tamizh and started incorporating(stealing)it into their already existent vaiteegam (senseless fire ritual) and produced the Upanishad (later even the Bhagavad-Gita and Epics were hijacked) and became vegetarians.
For a solid philosophical footing which they needed in a highly philosophized Tamizh (Samana Palli language just as Prakrit is Jain and Pali is Buddhist) infused land(Sanatan Dharma- people's religiosity)about the 8th century scribes like Adi Sankara came up with Advaita logic that distorted the original Buddhist(Sunya-Void) thoughts and produced a dichotomical nonsense which did not last the test of time.
Later they took up the Tantric Samana Tamizh tradition about the 10th century and put forth the bakti methodology (blind surrender). This was inspired by the Christian tradition also. Bakti was based on subtle erotism and appealed to the masses(like cinemas). The high Samana Tantra philosophical basis was ruined for the newly conjectured Saiva and Vainava cult of the wretched puranic tales (porn stories).
This is the history of the Priestly class(Brahmins) that still retain their priesthood in the agamic temples(lifeless stone worship) that held sway through the bakti movement from the 10th century onwards. The consecutive non-Tamizh rulers( Brahmin admixtured race such as Vaduga Telugus) firmly rooted the new found 'Hindu' religion with its caste (karmic birth) institution (twisted from the Samana four occupational make-up of society aka Farmers, Merchants, Rulers, Philosophers) with the insidious brahmin malicious agenda of Non-Dharmic segregation (untouchability) which the colonial British gave the general name by which sealing the new found religion hence the Brahmanic hegemony as Hindooism....
Absolutely. An urn with a 6 meter radius opening is bigger than my 30x40 house. I cannot imagine the technology needed to build this urn but it's more than the Egyptians or Ancient Greeks had. Amazing discovery
Thanks for sharing this true facts ❤
Visited "Keezhadi " museum near Madurai
Indian union government fear to allocate budget for tamilnadu archaeological department. Because tamilnadu always getting archaeological evidence which are very very oldest in whole india
TamiZh is the oldest language.Even its teh mother language to Sanskrit.there is no doubt about this as you can only find root word/meaning only from Thamizh
100 years complete ❤
ThePrint I'm with you on more separation of North vs South agenda. we will succeed, Inshallah
Fine report! 👌
Commend you for raising this awareness about oldest civilisation in India and one of the oldest in the world !!
Would like to hear more on these sites.
Arrange an interview with MANNAR MANNAN . He is the respectable historian in Tamil Nadu.
Please do an investigative report on why these projects allocated so much money have not made any progress! Please we would appreciate a detailed analysis report why nothing has been done even after such a big allocation of cash. Thanks.
Photo please
Viksit Bharat 2047? Forget about it, if even Indian archaeology is bogged down in ridiculous controversies and delays.
Can the skeleton through graphics be made to bring out a frame as to how the Man/Woman looked like.
This is the problem from the beginning of independence. If any development is done in South India, it is because South Indians are doing it themselves. Not because you get support from the Central government.....
Why not show some places, artifacts, locations,aps rather than showing your face full time. It can be a audio podcast
Lady's a poor speaker. Says a lot without conveying anything.
She is more of jabbering and less of substance...
@@indradevabhakt6244 Favorite Indian past time. Do nothing but criticize others.
@@johndevan3505 : 👈😋👈looks like you are talking about yourself..Good, atleast do something worthwhile from now on..😀😀😀
Agree
I'm sure The Print can manage with something better than a selfie video. A 15 minute video and I'm still not the wiser about what she wants to convey. Needs better research n presentation.
As you said, money is not the problem... The union govt. doesn't have any plan by itself to do any improvement in archeological excavations...
Disha needs to work more on her presentation skills.
Pornai nadhi civilization should be considered with indus valley civilisation....here after our history book should be start with both of this civilizations❤
I have to say print knows well how to start north vs south war 😂😂😂😂😂
When we have a govt which tries to depict mythology as history, this is expected not to spend time effort or money about actual history based on science and evidence...
Reason 101 why Tamilians have animosity against Hindi belt or hindi dominated center.
True. Harappa frenzy and North Indian frenzy! Why Nirmala?
can we keep politics out of this. we are discovering this over time and we improve our understanding over time
it doesn’t matter who was discovered first. both are fascinating and i am proud both. kind of urban centers are part of my history
@hemikovsky There are vested interests who want to promote a specific version of history tailor made to suit their propaganda
Tamil language develop Sanskrit language and make it religion religion now this Sanskrit believe they older then Tamil language the narrative and education is copy paste from Tamil
Chu...madrasi ... Vedic Sanskrit is indo-European language ....your tandu vundu language didn't create Sanskrit on a contrary many Dravidian languages have loan Sanskrit words
Finally
You are doing a great job. I wish you great success. A few things to note. You have to learn how to pronounce all the phenomes in all Indian alphabets, may be you have to learn about 10 to 20 from what you additionally already know. In addition to this it would be good to learn tone and accent which is important in languages like Punjabi and some NE languages.
Mispronouncing words distracts listeners and conveys incorrect meanings and contexts, often covering up clues to further discoveries. Etymology of words, names are very important in historical analysis and research.
Unfortunately, most of the education in India is sloppy and positions are filled up with mediocre folks with legacy connections. This need to change.
She is not a good orator.
Why bring caste in archeological findings. So far nothing conclusive is brought out about the social structure of Aduchichanallur or Keeladi. If there was no caste system in dravidians how come so many non brahmin castes have come up.
You won't get any answer. Brahmins were so smart and (the rest were so dumb?) they created thousands of castes all across India lol. Now even after so called justice movement lol why do they continue to follow caste?
Sanskrit is the universes oldest language
@@Manoj-sw1ts lavda....it has no scientific backing
It's a burial site,RSS which wants a vedic narrative of our past ( which is cremation) would not be interested. TN govt which is fund strapped will not do on its own despite having a dept for it. Amaranth Ramakrishna who says Mahabharata is a myth and part of IAD, should get his communist mp cousin Su Venakyesan to create noise in parliament about this. Maybe keen followers like us wl not see anything much in our lifetime, but may be in the next
Dude everybody used to bury in the past. Even the Vedas talk about it. Cremation started during late Indus times. Don't try to find a binary in everything. Reality is much more complex, not stupid DMK vs RSS crap. Get your head out of your rear end and read something.
they have already done. TN is doing a lot in the last 7 years. But problem is, Union Govt doesn't consider this as Indian history
Then you are not supporting westeren ideas 😂
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At this rate, we’re gonna run out of Burnol! 😂 The burn is real in this comment section
Evidence for an aryan immigration or a Vedic civilization is absent at any time in history
Population genetics confirms the presence of Steppe ancestry from 2200bc until 1900bc when it appears the menace of frequent raids by indo european War Bands , compelled abandonment of the IVC cities and migration to safee regions.
The raids evidently moved to the indo gangetic plains from 1500bc until 100AD, During the period native AASI males were displaced, creating the new wide spread ANI population with Steppe ancestry.
The raids and the inter mixing ended with the practice of Endogamy and Caste hierarchy and segregation, apparently with the presence of large armies in the region also confirming the regular active presence of west eurasians
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What Congress did is big big zero on this
India is not interested in Tamil culture. Talking itself waste of your time.
Harappa remains a frenzy for a very rightful reason.Dont create an artificial counter narrative to make your videos more spicy.
You are using ajinomoto not quality spices.
What a ridiculously forced metaphor. Lol 😂
@harishariharan7664 For a ridiculously shallow video on the matter the metaphor need to be ridiculous.
whats more unfortunafe is whats more popular is made tolook like it exists. and this is what ecposes the double talk of those certifying themselves as patriots and lecture others on it while ignoring a part of the couhtry as per own descrition.
Velirs 🔱🔱🔱
What about Aryan invasion theory.this present government doesn't seem to recognise it. Even Balgangadhar Tilak said that Aryans came from Arctic region.
Its not invasion. They migrated . Aryans didnt fight anybody. They just arrived here and claim everything as theirs
Hi mam you are very much welcome to vist the sits and State . social activist fought with union government to protect this sites as national paties or Sanskrit fundamentalist have created lots of stories and fooled the gullible north east and west indians , the history, facts will shake the base of the false narative ... They have caused all truble in disrupting the work , madam Nirmala came personally and insisting on closing the archeological sites and strong protest from Social activists only stopped them and chaned the in-charge and replaced with a sinki inchage who is anti tamil in blood was appointed its the state govt. , social activist and common stood to protect their history ... Pls do a septate vidoeo ... The story was too wage and less information... More are avaliable and we can take this vidoe as an intro ....
Good start ...
If India acted like China, it would reclaim all the lands related to Indus Valley Civilization from Pakistan. Because it's the same narrative with Tibet, right? As Tibet was part of the Qing Dynasty. Just because Pakistan is nuclear armed, it does not mean we can't claim. Make my taxes proud, India.
Yes you are right our king Ashoka kingdom used to have been even beyond afghanistan and srilanka we must reclaim that too
We Dravidians 🔥💥🔥💥
*Shunned and ignored... purposefully!*
Exactly
Well, its south india, and moreover, its tamil nadu. The state that is most hated by the centre and north indians alike. So there's no reason to hope there would be any incentive of the centre to excavate more or preserve the already exsisting evidence. If anything, they'd be willing to destroy all evidences
indus civilisation is pakistani civilisation which nothing concern with india its our land our heritage of sind and balichistan
came for an analysis of the findings but instead had to hear a girl ramble nonsense.
Must be new to this let her learn
No, you came here to listen to what you wanted to hear, and you didn't. So it will sound nonsensical to your biased ear.
@@adamsstewart what are u blabbering??are u stoopid??
I don't know much about this archeological site but iam definitely sure which religion it belongs to 🙏🚩
There is a very unfortunate and unfounded comment below saying that this site is being neglected because North Indians are against it and the Tamil language/people. Just because we had bad history textbooks, doesn't mean that when they learn about it all Indians are not immensely proud of the spread of the Chola Empire and the tremendous influence of Indian culture in all of South East Asia. Similarly, I simply don't see how any Indian from the North would not be proud to learn of the stunning mathematical contributions of Madhava and the Kerala school of Astronomy.
North indians hardly know anything of south indian culture or languages.
@@vivek1raja Quite likely true, but you put three people in a room and they will disagree. Until about a hundred years ago, hardly any Indian ever traveled more than 50 miles from his village in his entire life. On the whole, there is much more than unites north and south India than divides them.
How can someone be better than sanatans
All sangis ran away
"They too know, they just want to keep click bait title & then use north, south propaganda like others😂"
Ab Tamil ko Tamizh likhne aate hi honge 😆
keep loking for a job in right wing media.. it will be helpfull for u in future... good job girl ;-)
As someone from Northern Bharat, I couldn’t be more proud of this discovery. It’s all sacred Bharat land.
It was a land even before your so called bharata came.
Our civilisation is older than your idea of Bharat even came into existence
@@Huhuhaaaaa520nope, it’s all the same
joker, when and where did this 'bharat' exist?
India was a neutral word that everyone accepted. It is derived from the Sindhu river. Now by renaming as Bharat you will lose a large number of hearts. Just be careful what you wish for.
@@sundalmurugan4208 idiot . Go and read real history. Before bharatha word came into existence and the people speaking it, there was civilization even before the people who used to call themselves of part of bharat
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LEARN TO UNDERSTAND ENGLISH 12TH FAIL GAWAAAAR!!!