Mastering the Key Notch Technique: Advanced Tree Felling Tutorial
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2023
- Welcome to the Finnish Lumberjack School! In this tutorial, we dive into the art of tree felling with the powerful key notch technique, also known as the tongue and groove technique. Designed for those with some experience in chainsaw handling and tree felling, this tutorial will take your skills to the next level.
Join me as I demonstrate the precise steps of the key notch technique, accompanied by engaging on-screen text instructions and energizing rock music. Discover how to strategically create a quarter cut or key notch to safely fell trees near obstacles or prevent unwanted rolling on slopes.
Whether you're a seasoned lumberjack looking to expand your techniques or an aspiring tree-felling enthusiast, this tutorial has valuable insights and tips to enhance your tree-cutting prowess. Get ready to master the key notch technique and take control of your tree-felling challenges.
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Please note: Safety is paramount when working with chainsaws and felling trees. Always follow proper safety guidelines and seek professional training if you're new to the craft.
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Ich bin aus dem Metallbereich, ich hab keinen blassen Schimmer warum YT mir das grade vorgeschlagen hat, auch frag ich mich warum ich jede Sekunde von dem Video so genossen habe. Aber eins steht fest : Das war das coolste was ich seit Monaten hier gefunden habe!!!
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Thank you very much and welcome to my channel 😃💪🏻💪🏻
Just a perfect cut . Thank you sooo much
Wow, loved this! Great technique for keeping a tree falling in a straight line.
Tell me our phones do not listen to our conversations. Two days ago i was talking in person to a friend and he told me about this video. He did not share it and I did not look it up. Yet two days later it is at the top of the videos You Tube recommended. No way this should just happen.
A few weeks ago a co worker mentioned someone he knew talked about something to someone, then the next day they got it as an ad. The maybe a week later i heard my father mentioned it happenening to him, and now i read your comment about it..
Dont think out loud when youre alone, and get a "dumb" phone instead...
Ohh....."they" listen alright ....
Я не интересовался и не говорил об этом, но видео всплыло в моих рекомендациях, причём с отметкой, что я его уже смотрел. А я не смотрел, это точно 😊
@martinswiney whats REALLY weird is i wasnt even looking for your comment…but it popped up on this video! Be careful what you wish for…🤐
My long dead aunt’s cat told me about this phenomenon.
Best one so far I've watched. Very understandable. Think I'll try it today
Clean video best on youtube I've seen clear and easy to understand from a Québec logger
The video would benefit from a commentary on when such a technique is useful. For example, when cutting on a steep slope where the intended fall is perpendicular to the slope and you do not want the tree to roll down the hill after it falls.
That’s a good point. I didn’t think of that one.
I read that the general purpose of this technique was to help ensure the direction in which the tree falls (w/o having to use additional equip.).
The first useful situation I thought of was if you’re felling a tree near a structure, road, or anything within proximity that is at risk of damage.
Obviously, unless there is a great deal of wind blowing or the angle at which the tree has grown places a majority of its mass leaning perpendicular to the direction you want it to fall, I can see how it would work well.
Although, I’m still left with 1 question…
If that technique is used correctly & the direction in which the tree can fall is now limited to a single axis, is there a way to ensure that it falls in the desired direction along that axis?
In other words…
Was there anything about the way he made his cuts in the video that prevented the tree from falling in the opposite direction?
Bc it looks like it could’ve fallen either way.
@@DIYDomTheBuilder To answer your question, he cut the face cut in the direction he wanted it to fall. Then, when he made the final back cut, you can see him leveraging the bar in the cut, to give the tree a push in the right direction. He didn't cut either back cut all the way through, so there would be enough meat to keep the tree from starting to fall before he was ready to "push" it.
Thank you for reminding me: ua-cam.com/users/shortsVkVSBTEM1qQ
Thank you for the VERY useful technique.
That was great.
I'm just guessing here, but I suspect he's done this a few times...great demonstration of a really useful technique, especially for felling trees on slopes.
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very interesting, thank you!
Thank you!
Awesome demo. Thanks for the video.
Thank you!
Wow super! If it always works...
Cool cut 👍
incredible
¡Impresionante video! Estas máquinas de corte de árboles son realmente increíbles. La precisión y velocidad con la que trabajan es asombrosa. ¡Un gran avance para el sector forestal!
😃💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻❤️
Etre inventif !😎😎
Well done mate ,looks like it warming there for you no snow cheers Kevin down under Australia 😊
Is it starting to get cold there for you guys? I worked with a couple of Aussies here in the states. They seriously thought something was wrong with me because I was in jeans and a sweatshirt when it was 0 degrees F outside. It was sunny, no wind and physical labor.
@timl.9990 your cold is way different to our cold lol keep doing your videos mate 👍
Hi Kevin!
Yes we are currently enjoying our 2 month long summer. Soon it will get dark and cold again. Nice to hear that my videos have reached the other side of the globe
Would this work on a side leaner to have it fall straight forward where you want it?
Ser väldigt fräckt ut! Finns det någon anledning till varför man skall göra detta dock?
Ayos, new idea na mas effective! Nice!
And that is how it's done👍🏻
Very well done. Thanks.
Thank you!
Phenomenal, Finnish Lumberjack!
Thank you sir!
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK, love 💕 that Swedish chainsaw.
Art.
Thank you!
Nice!
Thanks!
Здравствуйте, очень нравится ваше творчество, толковая подача материала и грамотная речь. Подскажите, в каких случаях целесообразно использовать данную технику и в чем её преимущества?
Nice job
Thank you!
Hello, is this felling technique indicated for a leaning tree and I want to fell it in a different direction than its natural fall? Or what technique would be indicated for leaning trees and changing the direction of fall? (obviously using tractel, etc.)
The technique is made to get over a vertical obstruction, or to avoid the trunk to roll
This seems great if you are trying to keep the butt from falling on something or bridging something or keeping it from rolling after the fall. There is a time and a place for this but it should not be used in every situation
Yes, exactly!
I can't afford to waste a butt log, pencil out the time it takes for this cut and the waste of a good butt section, just doesn't seem to make sense in most situations. I appreciate the cut though and certainly have practiced it on a few back leaning small diameter trees destined for firewood or fence posts. I do see that you are harvesting this tree for firewood. And, I do appreciate your videos, always informative.
Thank you!
the lower horizontal cut could be done at an angle to completely prevent the tree from swinging backwards if there was a lot of weight at the back.
Or use felling wedges?
Nice work! Clear and concise demonstration.
Thank you very much!
very logic method
nice
Sweet! You're the man!
Thank you sir!
👍. When would u use this cut !?? Anytime?
Díky moc, dlouho jsem hledal video, kde by to bylo dobře ukázané!
Pěkný! Jsem rád, že jsem vám mohl pomoci!
Is the purpose of the key notch to direct the tree in a particular direction because naturally it would fall differently due to the crown or leaning of the tree itself?
It serves two purposes. Yes, it directs the tree all the way to the ground…but that could easily be done with a birdsmouth felling notch. However what this cut does if done correctly, is keeps the butt end up off the ground and the tree wont roll away.
Thanks.@@johnrobertson7583
Thank you John!
Tohle hledám už asi hodinu na YT, jen jsem hledal kaceni pres čep, dlab, pant... Někde jsem to dříve viděl a chtěl bych letos přes zimu vyzkoušet a potřeboval jsem si ujasnit pořadí a délky řezů.
Rád bych se zeptal, je tento způsob vhodný a bezpečný pro změnu směru pádu více nakloněného stromu, nebo jen ke zlepšení přesnosti u rovně vzrostlého? U listnačů kde hrozí vytržení velké třísky se tato technika asi nepoužívá? Děkuji pane.
what is your ratio of ones that work verses ones that don't stay in the notch (for various reasons)?
Hi John!
The ratio was 3-1 when filming this
3-fails...
QED
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACKAppreciate your honesty, sir!
That’s a cool technique! But I do have 1 question…
Using this technique, can the tree fall in either direction (forwards or backwards)?
…or did I miss something about his cuts that limits the tree to only falling one way?
The notch forces the tree to fall forwards
Mantap kali trik nya
I have seen others cut a block out of bottom. You did not not needed by looks of it it hinged over and fell
I have a tree that is top heavy on the north and I need it to fall to the south would this work to have it fall to the south?
No this one is not for that. How about pulling it down?
Nice key notch bro
Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
The hinge technique, when trees fall exactly where you want. 👍
Skillnaden med fallsnittet i stubben mot trädet?
Have you ever had one split on you, from trying to turn the felling direction to far and got too much side pressure?
I've heard this can happen, especially if there is a lot of unseen internal rot, or weakness from age.
I use that so rarely, that i have no experience of splitting
Sieht ja ganz interessant aus, aber wozu macht man diesen Aufriss? Solch einen Schnitt habe ich in meinen 42 Berufsjahren noch nie gebraucht!
Very interesting.
When you absolutely, positively want to be sure it falls where you intend. An earlier YT vid of failures (where the guy crushed the corner of his house) would have done well to use this technique.
This is another tool in my mental warehouse.
Excellent!
Not if the ratio is 3 to 1 where 3 earlier cuts failed to achieve its intended cut. Pretty cut but useless and a chain and time eater.
@@misterp158 When ever I have any worries about the fell direction I use a few of my 8k lb lines and get tension above the center of mass of the tree Im felling to another distant tree. It takes more time but it works and is safe.
"..a chain and time eater..." Kinda what I thought with those long rip cuts in green wood.
@@Newtsche In the case where you need to do that, does "chain and time eater" make any difference? Does wasting 4' of good timber make any difference?
Looks nice, but what's the win?
Or: When is a simple notch just not enough?
Or: What kind of problem does this technique solve?
the tree isnt going to bounce off to the left or right, and won't roll down a slope if you're on a slope. Sometimes if the tree falls and it has long limbs it can make unexpected movements even before it lands, this technique improves control, if you need to be very precise.
😊😊😊cool
Le cube du bois est au pied de l’arbre!
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It seems to me that if you cut the bottom of the key notch first, you could cut it at an angle sloping away from the direction you wanted it to fall. Then when you completed the cut, even if the tree wanted to tip in the wrong direction, the sloped cut at the bottom would prevent it. Perhaps this isn't used though for other reasons.
Die Hintergrundmusik stört nicht nur im Wald - sonder auch beim Zuhöhren !
Der Ruf der finnischen Metallwaldgrille ist in der Tat gewöhnungsbedürfig.
Why do I smell freshly cut pine wood while watching the end?
Movie magic
Maybe better to do humbolt cut to keep "key" in the slot as the tree falls and prevent it from jumping out when theface cut closes?
It depends on the situation
Это сколько доски пропадает, лучше пониже спилить больше доски выйдет!😊
А классическим методом за это время штук 5 таких свалить и пенек маленьким оставить
Ты не путай . Это нерусские . Первый раз в жизни такую дичь вижу . Палки три я уронил бы за то время , что он извращался. И метр в дрова. Жуть ...
Вы если не понимаете зачем это то не пишите дичь умственно-отсталых.
Этот способ нужен только в крайних случаях.
Только когда нужно положить дерево строго в определённое место.
Например в центре двора стоит дерево которое скоро рухнет и что нибудь сломает.
Поэтому нужно его свалить в единственное место, с точностью до градуса, не причинив ущерба посторойкам.
Обычный способ не подойдёт.Угол падения слишком большой.
Что нибудь зацепит при падении. А этим "да странным" способом можно положить
ствол в метровый зазор между построек, не причинив никакого вреда.
@@x8698-ks9it Все верно, только осталось добавить, что опытный вальщик, грамотно рассчитавший клиновидный недопил,вооруженный гидроклином, может положить дерево с неправильной кроной, куда хочет. Исключение во всех случаях- это сухостой, Он опасен тем, что ломается в неожиданных местах. В моей практике был случай, что мы уронили дерево, а рядом стоявшая сушина рассыпалась в воздухе и куски посыпались на нас, чудом никого не зацепив. Ну тут сами виноваты, не расчистили место работы от сухих и зависших деревьев
@@x8698-ks9it Всё в цвет . А человек даже умные слова знает и дерево валит в метровые зазоры . Бывалый . В лесу наверное был раза два . За грибами ...
Add a bolt, then it is a "Schlagbaum" in it's very meaning.
En que casos se utiliza esta técnica??
on th hill when you don't want, that the tree will roll .... maybe, just a thougt
Interesting technique 👌 I'm not sure 🤔 where it would be applicable in a forestry or tree surgery role but if the situation arises which is very unlikely I'll give it try
We’ll what about when you really don’t want it to fall 90 degrees?
It keeps the butt end up off of the ground so the tree can be bucked better. It also keeps it from rolling away from the stump.
@@johnrobertson7583but you’re wasting a lot of useable lumber with this cut. If its being used for pulp/mulch or its a rotten tree then i guess it would make sense
It guarantees it will fall only one way. Pretty nice trick.
Sure would be nice to see for every tree we take down a new tree is planted!!
Just about any time a tree is taken down there will be multiple seedlings that sprout up right next to the stump. If left alone they'll grow and replenish the forest. All depends on what the landowner does after the grown tree is removed. Left to it's own, nature does it just fine without us.
The Finnish policy is to plant more trees than we cut, the only exceptions are thinning and raking.
@@GreenMachine1365 Actually, no...!!! The little trees that grow out of the natural cut tree stump is a mutant and will never make a real tree. Planting a variety of trees to replace the cut one is best, do not seed a whole forest with the same variety of tree. The bugs and fungus will kill them all.
Idk how in other countries, but here we have law, that you must replant the area.
We actually just covered this in felling safety class the other day
Haja gasolina!
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Good stuff, controlling the base as it falls is a valuable technique near anything you don't want smashed! Perhaps the people who dont see a benefit in this on some trees are just college educated engineers 😅
so after I make my face cut Im going to stand in front of the tree in the fell direction and make three massive through cuts ?...Thanks for that pro tip.. but no thanks.
you do you
日本語の説明テロップ、ありがとう！。
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Jasně. Nahaž si všechny stromy na jednu hromadu. Jak je pak budeš odvětvovat?
It is a nice trick to know, but useless in most high production scenario even in residential work due to the time spend on the extra cuts, but indeed valuable to know in case you need it one day. I can say in 10 years of cutting hundreds of trees, I've never needed to use it.
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Hola, Esta técnica de tala está indicada para un árbol inclinado y que lo quiero derribar en una dirección diferente a la de su caída natural? O que técnica sería indicada para árboles inclinados y cambiar dirección de caida? (obviamente usando tractel, etc etc.
No, esta es una técnica para un más delgado: ua-cam.com/video/sGNYTbIt22c/v-deo.html
I told nearly same idea in Akujelppi channel. Did you saw it?
No, not yet. Was it good?
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK I`m not have opportunity to test it. It have V-cut.
Interessant, aber wofür braucht man die Zechnik?
Wenn der Baum vom Stock nicht wegrollen soll, geht der Wurzenschnitt besser. Außerdem kann man sehr viel tiefer sägen.
Wenn man sich anschaut in wie vielen YT-Videos ein Baum falsch fällt und auf dem Hausdach landet ist diese Technik wohl gut um wirklich sicherzustellen dass der Baum in die richtige Richtung fällt. Sicher ist sicher. 😅 Mitten im Wald brauchst das wohl nicht, aber wenn der Baum neben deinem Haus steht, ist das wohl eine Überlegung wert. 😊
One hell of a neat video. What is this cut used for?
Thank you!
To avoid the trunk rolling, and to avoid vertical obstacles
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK
Got it. Thanks!
Jassåå finnish jätkänkynttilä valmistuu näin 🙉
Pretty slick but, seems like quite a bit of waste if you’re sawing it up for lumber.
Why should you use special techniques for a normal tree?
Whats ur favorite saw??
Stihl ms500i
He did that the unsafest way possible
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Varför gör vissa fallsnittet i stubben o andra i trädet?
Does that mean I need to take the safe guard off the front of my chainsaw?
No
next time, view the work from the cutter's perspective, in side views we learn nothing. great technique and it DOES work !
that notch how you do it
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Domanda??? Perché si effettua questa tecnica??? Gradirei risposta grazie. Un abbraccio Mauro Italia 🇮🇹
Per evitare ostacoli verticali e impedire al tronco di rotolare lateralmente
@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK grazie 🙏🏻
Je ne comprends pas l'intérêt de cette technique, mises à part certaines situations particulières où le haubanage n'est pas possible. Et il y a perte de un mètre de fût. Mais la qualité de la tronçonneuse me laisse rêveur.
Während er sich einen abspielt, habe ich schon drei Bäume gefällt. Was soll dieses rumgeripse?
All very well when your cutting pine. Try doing this on Australian eucalyptus. Also, this is a skilled technique and not for novices.
That's pretty cool how it just drops in the notch. Depending on what you gonna use the tree for, seems to me a waste of good wood. My opinion.
And if the tree doesn’t want to fall that way?
You can apply pressure by pushing it with jack or pulling with winch for example.
Those kind of tricks are recommend If the tree is leaning the other way or wind is blowing.
Enseñando una técnica que no usa. (Ver árbol cortado en la parte trasera).
what is the purpose of this technique?
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to create vertical clearing, and to avoid the tree from rolling
Good morning:
I cannot deny that the technique is curious. I confess I didn't know her. As I watched the video, I thought that it would be intended for very specific trees due to very specific circumstances. Because I suppose that its application as a standard felling technique is not economically profitable.
Anyway, such an illustrative video is appreciated.
Sincerely,
The technique is designed to avoid vertical obstacles, and force the tree not to roll sideways. So, yes it is a special technique. Thank you sir 👍🏻👍🏻
А зачем так? Для чего?
В моей голове при просмотре ролика крутился тот же вопрос)) Зачем?
направленная валка. чтобы указать направление.
@@Valadey Очень сложный процесс запилов. Наверняка есть более простые решения направленной валки. Я лично веревкой с ручной лебедкой натягиваю и падает куда надо (-;
А для чего такой рез?
Is this the solution for a problem that didn’t exist? Those plunge cuts are pretty hard on the chain and the bar sprocket.
Seems to be to a problem that you haven't faced yet.
No. I don't see the benefit. My breaking area guides the tree perfectly. What if you miss the 90 degree angle? There would be tentions between the breaking area and your construct.
Nice, but too much wood wasted...
Круто! И пила мощная