The WORST Designed Champions In League of Legends

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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
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  • @eXecu7or
    @eXecu7or Місяць тому +1315

    This is K'Sante, a champion with 4,700 HP, 329 Armor, and 201 MR, has Unstoppable, a Shield, and goes over walls. Has Airborne, and the cooldown is only 1 second too. It costs 15 Mana. The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms. He has true damage on his passive. Then, when he stacks Armor and MR, he gets Ability Haste too, Ability Haste to his Q, and his spell casting speeds up. Then, he has an AD ratio, so his W…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @sethb3090
      @sethb3090 Місяць тому +139

      This is K'Sante, all his stats give you other stats and his abilities are designed not to actually need all those stats but he gets them anyway

    • @GameBreaker1055
      @GameBreaker1055 Місяць тому +41

      I still wonder who thought that a champ that gets offensice stats by building defensive ones is a good idea...
      He is to tanky to take down when he does not want to fight you and he then stat-checks you offensively when he wants to.

    • @swiftysnail9053
      @swiftysnail9053 Місяць тому +62

      체력 4700 방어력 329 마저201 인 챔피언👤이 저지불가🚫, 쉴드🛡, 벽🧱 넘기는 거 있고요. 에어본🌪 있고, 심지어 쿨타임은 1️⃣초밖에 안되고 마나🧙‍♂️는 1️⃣5️⃣ 들고 w는 심지어 변신💫하면 쿨 초기화에다가 패시브는 고정피해🗡가 들어가며 그 다음에 방마저🥋 올리면📈 올릴수록📈 스킬 가속⏰이 생기고! q에 스킬가속⏰이 생기고 스킬 속도🚀가 빨라지고📈 그 다음에 공격력🗡 계수가 있어가지고 W가 그 이익-으아아아악😱😱---

    • @TAWMUD
      @TAWMUD Місяць тому +18

      Is this K’sante in the room with us right now?

    • @eXecu7or
      @eXecu7or Місяць тому +15

      @@TAWMUD have you watched the G2 vs SKT series?

  • @ignacioperez5479
    @ignacioperez5479 Місяць тому +797

    Assasins: requires a Lot of gold
    Also assasins: serrated dirk power spike

    • @ibrahim5463
      @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому +34

      Dude the only expensive assassin iteam is profane

    • @ignacioperez5479
      @ignacioperez5479 Місяць тому +29

      @@ibrahim5463 and Even that is only to stop non-lethality champs from using it, since it's on the same price range than the other hydras

    • @dominiorrr6510
      @dominiorrr6510 Місяць тому +1

      Why would assassins require a lot of gold?

    • @ignacioperez5479
      @ignacioperez5479 Місяць тому +19

      @@dominiorrr6510 vars said it in the video. His words, not mine. Thats exactly why this came to My mind

    • @dominiorrr6510
      @dominiorrr6510 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@ignacioperez5479 Yeah, but that's a weird thing to say when assassins have the cheapest items besides supports.

  • @OurflePlays
    @OurflePlays Місяць тому +521

    A champion 👤 with 4700 HP 💪 329 Armor 🤷‍♂️ and 201 MR 💦 has Unstoppable🚫, a Shield 🛡️, and goes over walls 🧱, has Airborne 🌪️, and cooldown is only 1 second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana 🧙 The W CD is even refreshed when he transforms 💫 He has true damage 🗡️ on his Passive. Then, when he stacks 📈 Armor and MR 🥋 he gets Ability Haste too ⏰ Ability Haste to his Q ⏰ and his spell casting speeds up 🚀
    Then, he has an AD ratio 🗡️ so he has W... W is like eee 😡 aaaaaaaaaaaa 😱😱

    • @ibrahim5463
      @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому +6

      We need a new one for skarner since he is k'sante 2.0(in toplane)

    • @juicespiller456
      @juicespiller456 Місяць тому +1

      @@ibrahim5463 not much u can really say except 2 suppressions

    • @ibrahim5463
      @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому

      @@juicespiller456 slows, lots of slows

    • @luukas2660
      @luukas2660 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ibrahim5463He has 2 slows. That's the same amount as cho'gath.

    • @nicklasveva
      @nicklasveva Місяць тому +3

      @@ibrahim5463 Q and W? E is a suppression and is usually very situational. R is what it is. Nothing special, really. And he's supposed to be a tank, so I really don't see the problem.

  • @WholeGrainMeatloaf
    @WholeGrainMeatloaf Місяць тому +152

    I've got personal beef with K'sante because Riot advertised me a "high-skill tank" and then handed me a bruiser that gets to build tank items

    • @williammatkins6348
      @williammatkins6348 Місяць тому +21

      Ima Ksante main and yeah I agree. They took away all of his “high skill” with the W changes

    • @WholeGrainMeatloaf
      @WholeGrainMeatloaf Місяць тому +11

      well my point is he isn't actually a tank, but you're right- his skill expression is also suffering in their attempt to reign in the nightmare they created

    • @jose91807
      @jose91807 Місяць тому +4

      He was a high-skill tank but he had many changes

    • @jose91807
      @jose91807 Місяць тому +4

      @@williammatkins6348 And flash, and maintaining the q stacks after using R

    • @hoaxygen
      @hoaxygen Місяць тому +1

      He's a tank-assassin when he ults. You can't kill him but you also can't move while he takes you down. So interactive and playable. Incredible champion design all around 🙄

  • @ucinhnhu7544
    @ucinhnhu7544 Місяць тому +459

    "your super power cant be that you have every super power" yeah tell that to Kaisa

    • @alkobone5764
      @alkobone5764 Місяць тому +52

      Kaisa has poor range if we are being honest and her mobility is nothing like zeri
      Kaisa is more like better vayne
      Like belveth and master yi

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie Місяць тому +19

      kai'sa is balanced by the fact she can't have all of them at once
      if you go for onhit/crit your W and Q won't hurt as much. if you for full AP your W will hurt but that's really all the damage you have. you have to choose

    • @mete8901
      @mete8901 Місяць тому +31

      @@lillyiewhat do you mean you can’t have all 3? You can go basic crit or on hit and just buy zhonya or nashor and you have the upgrade

    • @tenderandmoist5011
      @tenderandmoist5011 Місяць тому

      Kai'sa's one and only weakness is her low auto range, which would be a problem if she didn't have a full-screen undodgable nuke and an invis + speed buff + steroid in 1 basic ability

    • @melindasteinle-holder9514
      @melindasteinle-holder9514 Місяць тому +10

      ​@@lillyie on-hit build gives her all 3 tho. Kraken, Rageblade, Nashor, Blade and maybe terminus or whatever and she has all 3.

  • @ed765super
    @ed765super Місяць тому +107

    If everyone is 200 years, no one is 200 years

    • @nicholasavasthi9879
      @nicholasavasthi9879 Місяць тому +15

      Ah, the DOTA school of balance

    • @cloudynguyen6527
      @cloudynguyen6527 Місяць тому

      @@nicholasavasthi9879 DOTA 2 has the resource to rework every single hero in their game to the point that if you stop playing DOTA 2 before 7.00 and got back to the game at this point, you'll realize how different every hero play. My problem with League is that it admits the game has power creep but Riot doesn't have the resource to update every champions. We'll be lucky to have at max 2 reworks per year while they keep churning out 4 new champions every year.

    • @hoaxygen
      @hoaxygen Місяць тому +2

      I wish they all were 200 years, but some champions feel like 2000 years for no good reason.

    • @ravenoushydra7948
      @ravenoushydra7948 26 днів тому +1

      I miss old league

  • @GabrielHenrique-pq5bo
    @GabrielHenrique-pq5bo Місяць тому +16

    every time i see a k'sante i think to myself ''why does he have to exist'', its like a kid inventing a super hero and wanting him to have every power, he has dash, unstopable, a projectile, stuns, pushes, launch ppl airborne, can kidnap them through walls, has true damage, can shield allies, himself, get offensive stats while building full tank, insane stick potential, highly mobile, good numbers on every skill, blitzcrank slows himself because its too powerful for him to miss Q and still chase the oponent with is W, like wtf

  • @grauenritter9220
    @grauenritter9220 Місяць тому +20

    the reason zeri was on the patch notes so much was becaue of riot favoritism and a refusal to give her an honest nerf for a year. there were so many nerf patches that compensated her so hard, youd think she was someones waifu.

  • @sortilien2099
    @sortilien2099 Місяць тому +90

    The shyvana issue is you feel punished in human form.

    • @realantagonist5324
      @realantagonist5324 Місяць тому +6

      Elise is the same way. The web is the only useful human form ability before late game.

    • @Diopside.
      @Diopside. Місяць тому +22

      @@realantagonist5324 u are so wrong, it's just hilarious to read.

    • @theshadynorwegian6036
      @theshadynorwegian6036 Місяць тому +16

      @@realantagonist5324 Elise has a flowing combo to her kit. she's built with an intuitive combo from human to spider, and once her burst combo ends she's in her spider form which has more dps and movespeed. I agree that her spider into human feels bad, but her human form does have a clear purpose.

    • @tuanatnguyen1900
      @tuanatnguyen1900 Місяць тому +1

      True tho. Also if you building ap then without ult you're just a more dmg caster creep.

    • @Diopside.
      @Diopside. Місяць тому +1

      @@theshadynorwegian6036 Correct answer, +1

  • @FaceFish9
    @FaceFish9 Місяць тому +143

    correction. Assassins used to be gold hungry. back when we had tanks that would counter them by not letting them move and not taking damage. Now? you buy a single item that has lethality and you've won 90% of your lanes. no other class has a half an item like Serrated dirk, which so perfectly gives everything you would want at a low cost.

    • @bashvash
      @bashvash Місяць тому +6

      yeah i love two item kat 100-0 killing me in under 2 sec if im not playing a tank

    • @Invisius1
      @Invisius1 Місяць тому +17

      @@bashvash if an assassin with 2 items couldn't kill someone quickly, that would be sad.
      The problem is that the ad assassins get the same effect for literally 1100 gold and if you're playing a mage, you lost. gg.

    • @roipipi5898
      @roipipi5898 Місяць тому

      @@Invisius1 yea but mage are supposed to be somehow weak against assassins, back in the day even if the assassin was fed, if you had maokai for exemple you could deal with them for your team but rn it's a pain if you are not 10-0 (impossible as a tank(except for ksante^^))

    • @Invisius1
      @Invisius1 Місяць тому

      @@roipipi5898 it literally still is that way? like, Zed, LeBlanc, Akali, talon all get oneshot as soon as they get hit with a cc. Especially nowadays where dmg is so high for literally everyone.
      And of course mages are supposed to be weak to assassins since that's their whole shtick. Kill the mage and/or the adc on the enemy team and then fall back. which is totally fine. My problem with assassins nowadays (other than the serrated dirk problem i mentioned earlier) is assassins that can kill you for literally free without risking anything, as most other assassins have to, champs like Zed, Leblanc and Fizz. Champs as zed gets waaaay to much of a power spike from 1100 gold. Like it is fine to counter someone, but atleast do it with 1 item, and not 1100 worth of gold.
      If you wanna talk about "back in the day" when they talked about mages etc, it was "spellslinger" "control mage" and "burst mage" which was different classes altogether, but nowadays, it feels like the those classes have blended together, since literally all 3 classes spams spells, with little to no mana cost, and the spells deal high dmg with little to no itemization.

    • @roipipi5898
      @roipipi5898 Місяць тому

      @@Invisius1 ngl i'm not going to read all this, my point is that assassins just one shot everyone even tanks

  • @nathanielskinner6868
    @nathanielskinner6868 Місяць тому +45

    I've been waiting for Shyv rework since before they made the fated poll. I love the idea and the ideas of her moves, but AP Shyv is a burst mage and AD Shyv doesnt have the damage output. She is so dependent on her ult. But then it doesn't charge while dead, so you get penalized extra for taking any hits. Killing dragons for stats is a cool mechanic, but at lower levels half the players fight obsessively over dragon spawns and the other half completely ignore it. You end up being forced to contest all dragons, without the teammates to make it worth it.

    • @BoneWalker
      @BoneWalker Місяць тому

      Pta Shyvana goes hard. Instant procs with aa+q.

    • @samuelcavalcanti3345
      @samuelcavalcanti3345 Місяць тому

      @@BoneWalker Making her 5% less shit doesnt make her "go hard"

  • @Mizticall
    @Mizticall Місяць тому +15

    I think a big flaw in Shyvana is that she is literally USELESS without ult. I know she's still pretty terrible when she's in dragon form but at least she can throw big AOE explosions at people and do damage with those if she's fed. When she's in human form she literally does nothing at all to the point where I genuinely see her as a troll pick

  • @diego.camacho22
    @diego.camacho22 Місяць тому +31

    Bel'Veth - I get the head is just a bait for her prey but it's a bit off for me aside from that her kit doesn't match

    • @realantagonist5324
      @realantagonist5324 Місяць тому +2

      Yea I think he said something similar about bel in his belveth video.

    • @ethanstyant9704
      @ethanstyant9704 Місяць тому +8

      Ikr
      "I am not some mindless voidspawn"
      Yet plays exactly like a mindless voidspawn with the worst walk cycle in the game (who had the idea to have a manta ray face on the bottom of it?)

    • @ldalexandrite
      @ldalexandrite Місяць тому

      @@ethanstyant9704 the same people who thought giving it a human silhouette, a woman’s face and a pair of legs with a booty. Seriously check out her in game model on the internet it’s hilariously bad how obvious it is that they just wanted a hot babe. Her concepts are full of it anyway. Halfassed monster champ.

  • @happybalint
    @happybalint Місяць тому +7

    "lack of mobility"
    *shows garen who usually buys dead mans plate and runs you down*

    • @HuyNguyen-jl7go
      @HuyNguyen-jl7go Місяць тому +1

      That’s top lane when you have to walk into his kill zone to cs, so mobility doesn’t matter. Try garen vayne match up to see how good his mobility is .

    • @spartantnt1023
      @spartantnt1023 3 дні тому

      @@HuyNguyen-jl7go This is genuinely why I often play Garen jungle. He's vary hard to kite... with levels and proper items. He's extremely easy to kite early game, when he has neither of those things. In the jungle however, you can avoid bad matchups like Vayne, Tristana(it's worse than Vayne tbh), Twisted Fate, Teemo, Quinn... you know basically anything ranged whatsoever. Graves, Kindred, and so on are also easier to run down because they're often VERY far away from the safety of a tower.

  • @thejedisonic67
    @thejedisonic67 Місяць тому +117

    Vayne is certainly up there. She's supposed to be the ad carry you pick against tankier comps, but the problem is and always will be the fact that she's a ranged champion that can do max% health true damage on her autos. So now this specified anti tank champion turns into anti anything, especially with other parts of her kit like her ult making her invisible, hence untargetable.
    If I were to rework her, either the max % health true damage is replaced outright, or it only comes up when she ults for a few seconds. Id replace it with a W that still does the 3 auto procs, but one that deals more damage to targets with more health than Vayne or something.

    • @merdricon
      @merdricon Місяць тому +45

      I agree, all the "tank shredding" % hp damage in the game should be centered around bonus HP, NOT max HP

    • @victor-oh
      @victor-oh Місяць тому +50

      MaxHP% and True Damage should be mutually exclusive, so that a Tank can itemize armor against MaxHP% and HP vs True Damage

    • @julianosoares6684
      @julianosoares6684 Місяць тому +22

      Her W is Just uncounterable, only option is preventing her from AAing or Killing her fast enough, such an annoying champ

    • @yorhaunit21o32
      @yorhaunit21o32 Місяць тому +10

      She’s short range. Easily killed by burst and mages. Adc’s can kill her simply by staying well out of range while their support locks them down.
      It’s not vaynes fault ur bad.

    • @GameBreaker1055
      @GameBreaker1055 Місяць тому +31

      @@yorhaunit21o32 Right, ADCs can just stay out of hte range of the marksman that moves faster towards them than they can run from her and also has a low CD dash that turns her invisible and with that close to untargetable for ADCs!

  • @moobo3944
    @moobo3944 Місяць тому +19

    I mean you made a video about her only 10 days ago. Bel Veth. She is such a nothing addition to the game and her gameplay does not match her fantasy at all. She's the only champion where if she were to receive a rework I would want every single ability scrapped and done over.

    • @cloudynguyen6527
      @cloudynguyen6527 Місяць тому

      True. I feel like Yorick is the best inspiration if they want to remake Bel'veth. When I look at Bel'veth, I'm thinking of Nature Prophet from DOTA 2 who would spawn fuck ton of walking trees to sneakily push while aslo has variety of tools to get in and out of the fight. Or Abarthur in HOTS though I wouldn't mind if they don't take inspiration from him. I really really despise Abarthus... it's like Yuumi but more volatile and safe.

    • @ldalexandrite
      @ldalexandrite Місяць тому +3

      @@cloudynguyen6527 but riot games do not allow actually creative champs becsuse that would require them to come up with actually creative counters.

    • @MostMoba
      @MostMoba Місяць тому +1

      ... We get fucking autoataker in year 2023. She has aoe cc, 4 dashes dmg mitigation true dmg and infinity atck speed. Btw she still not really good since this is one of examples where you actually CAN kait champion that supposed to be kited. You can't kite Darius or Garen. You CAN'T kite WW or Udir.
      Another point that bel with only 2 items can make your tank with 2 items 100-0% in just 3-4 seconds, if she can hit, and this is not K'sante.
      I play her if get JG.
      More often i play kayle. A good example of design. She actually works as her concept declare. Powerful late weak early. And fucking suck to champion with same idea ( fuck this dog, why his 3 so broken with -90% move and atk spd).

  • @iaifia3224
    @iaifia3224 Місяць тому +101

    Oh look, my mains. Zeri, Pyke, and Shyvanna

    • @mariannapapikyan4123
      @mariannapapikyan4123 Місяць тому +11

      Interesting mains, people usually have mains from the same role they play but you have an ADC, a support and a jangler
      I rarely see that

    • @realantagonist5324
      @realantagonist5324 Місяць тому +9

      I use to play alot of Zeri but the repetitive Q spam damaged my Q button in keyboard.

    • @mariannapapikyan4123
      @mariannapapikyan4123 Місяць тому +7

      @@realantagonist5324 Evelynn mains shake hands with Zeri mains
      Though Zeri obviously uses Q more

    • @willscott2842
      @willscott2842 Місяць тому +3

      Oh, that’s gore. That’s gore of my comfort character

    • @Sohzy
      @Sohzy Місяць тому +1

      @@mariannapapikyan4123 as an evelynn main i can confirm, the q spam is real and i feel bad for the people who live in the same house as me👍

  • @BellaJiyar_XOXO
    @BellaJiyar_XOXO Місяць тому +49

    Blue archive music goes hard.

  • @TheAngelRaven
    @TheAngelRaven Місяць тому +20

    Champions like Lux, Senna, and Pyke are prime examples of 'Designed for Support, but clearly not'. Senna is just an ADC that GENUINELY scales, Pyke was gone over, and Lux is just a Midlane mage that someone at Riot gets their rocks off to whenever they make sure she gets a buff she had zero need for.

    • @heidtb6746
      @heidtb6746 Місяць тому +2

      Sometimes, the Meta for support completely shifts from "i can help my ADC" to "I don't need much gold to carry"

    • @maxschnell3658
      @maxschnell3658 Місяць тому

      just take sennas healing on q away and the support problem is fixed

    • @wallachia4797
      @wallachia4797 Місяць тому +5

      Lux was never "designed for support" lmao.
      Shitters tend to play her on "support" because of the CC, but she isn't nor was ever intended to be a supp champ.

    • @baptistecochennec5956
      @baptistecochennec5956 Місяць тому +3

      Lux was never designed for support and the role of a support is to help the team which pyke and senna absolutely do

    • @Dragonoid269
      @Dragonoid269 Місяць тому

      @@baptistecochennec5956 Arguably any champion can help the team though, that is an extremely low standard to set. Maybe you can exclude champs like Yi and Shyvanna with that standard, but practically all tanks, bruisers and mages have some form of cc they can use to help the team (though some would argue death is the best cc in the game and in that term master Yi can work too).

  • @JustinSeizure
    @JustinSeizure Місяць тому +3

    I don't understand why they haven't just removed Zeri's "dash over wall" part. It would make her at least somewhat balanced.

  • @JackiEEEEEEE
    @JackiEEEEEEE Місяць тому +8

    Blue archive music goes hard

  • @astormight1149
    @astormight1149 Місяць тому +2

    the worst thing for pyke I think it's that you can't trade with him. You catch him, he can W and/or E so you can't chase him, waite 8 seconds to recover his CD and due to his passive gets back full life. Moreover as he takes advantage of the lethality support item, the little amount of ward you can put before he spawns on you because he was hiding nowhere, he can take them off with one AA without even having to use his trinket.
    As a support player it is very fustrating to play against a champion that can just do more things that you do, because riot allowed them to do so. It's not like pyke doesn't have any counter. It's just that the only way is ignoring him and hoping that none of your teammates would be low life if you don't want to give him a penta.

  • @josefarias5216
    @josefarias5216 Місяць тому +3

    I hate that Riot finally did it, they made Tank Yasuo, and is just as frustrating as the windsh*tters if not more

  • @DavidGlendaleArdenaso
    @DavidGlendaleArdenaso Місяць тому +4

    I really dislike how Sejuani W deals physical damage, prevents her from doing basic attacks, and uses her weapon - but scales with ability power (besides health)

    • @heidtb6746
      @heidtb6746 Місяць тому +1

      To be fair in that specific case... She usually builds neither AD nor AP

    • @DavidGlendaleArdenaso
      @DavidGlendaleArdenaso Місяць тому

      @@heidtb6746 no but imagine shojin or black cleaver with her

  • @eprjct
    @eprjct Місяць тому +50

    I can't believe Kayn hasn't gone on this list yet. The only physical Assassin/Bruiser that does not have any skill related to auto attacks and his skill set is horrendous. He makes Master Yi and Evelynn look like a S+ Tier design. I get that they want to make a double playstyle champion, but he's more like 2 failed champions into one big bulk of disaster. Either form does not change him from power farming, ult late game so you can't focus on other champs, leech all his health back and waddles away. The way skills interact when he is in walls is a complete joke.

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie Місяць тому +12

      you forgot to mention one thing and that's the abomination of purple kayn. build lethality on rhaast and be unkillable while being bursty

    • @kharics2122
      @kharics2122 Місяць тому +6

      honestly i cant relate to any frustration towards Kayn. He seems fine for me and has strenghts and weaknesses. Sure you cant surely tell in champ select he its gonna be a bruiser or Assassins but you can kinda read it team comp wise. Therefore he pays with an incredible weak early Game and gets his form power spike. Good Kayn Players will be strong because this Champ scales incredible well with Game knowledge/Jungle Knowledge. But still if the other Jgl has an ounce of Brainmass he can legit STOP Kayn in his jgl or atleast Track him and warn his team about his Position so laners wouldnt die IF they listen to the Jungler for once.

    • @eli2210
      @eli2210 Місяць тому +1

      @@kharics2122I second this

    • @Chaziltasm
      @Chaziltasm Місяць тому

      They should have just made two separate characters. Or just made red Kayn. I love the idea of this CC, life steal drain tank bruiser. If they just made him that from the start without this transform gimmick, then just massively nerf his numbers so he's like a normal bruiser.

    • @loudwhispre9406
      @loudwhispre9406 Місяць тому +1

      There are so many things wrong with Kayn and all of them stem from his concept. He starts out weak, basically not even a champion, for the potential to adapt mid-game to what his team needs or what best counters the enemy team. Blue Kayn is pretty much a failure in every sense of the word. He's a weak early game champion, but he's also an assassin, the very class known for its strong early game. His E is something most champions would trade half of their kits for, but he has all the time. Blue Kayn is only viable when his damage is severely over tuned and his fluidity allows him to basically do a "drive-by one shot". He slides through a wall, hits W into Q, and slides through the opposite wall without interacting with you.
      Red Kayn is significantly more balanced as a concept, except for the fact that he does %HP healing on his passive and his Q does %HP damage. But even overlooking the overpowered parts of his kit, like the fact that he also has the ability to run through terrain or do a ranged AOE knock up, he also is a bruiser that starts the game out as not a bruiser. Unless the payoff for transforming is really over tuned, there is no reason to ever pick Red Kayn over any other bruiser, since you can START the game as a bruiser, instead of having to work toward that.
      Why start out weaker if you're going to end up being equal strength in the late game anyway? This is the entire identity of Kayn, which leaves him in a spot where he only gets picked if one or both of his forms are stronger than their competitors, and the forms are too easy to obtain for such a high payoff. He's fun to play, and he's conventionally attractive, meaning Riot will never not have him be viable, since his existence is just one big cash cow of skins, but he's definitely a solo queue champion that's immune to power creep, the same way Jarvan IV is a pro play champion that's immune to power creep.
      Unless Riot starts getting psychotic with their champion design and giving Camille ult as a basic ability, or Kayn's E as a passive, Kayn will never be pushed out of viability the way champions like old Skarner or Singed are left languishing for years.

  • @Arob4343
    @Arob4343 Місяць тому +2

    Kayle scaling Shyvana dragon is interesting. I think I’d like it

  • @lotion5238
    @lotion5238 Місяць тому +166

    I think League of Legends is poorly designed IMO

    • @researchbashio
      @researchbashio Місяць тому +4

      The game is ass

    • @theSafetyCar
      @theSafetyCar Місяць тому

      Elaborate?

    • @jackpino-wn8bu
      @jackpino-wn8bu Місяць тому +1

      It wouldn’t be this addicting

    • @MarcNSmith
      @MarcNSmith Місяць тому +7

      You don’t need to say ‘I think’ and ‘IMO’… they literally mean the same thing?

    • @Xinxax
      @Xinxax Місяць тому +1

      Mobile Legends Bang Bang is better designed, but still have issues of its own
      Doesnt mean its as flawed as a game where an assassin/skirmisher could 1v5 with 1 item

  • @ignacioperez5479
    @ignacioperez5479 Місяць тому +18

    Ksante, yone (he must appears ALWAYS)

    • @ttalentlessl
      @ttalentlessl Місяць тому +2

      amen (only place where they must appear is fkng hell)

  • @hunterkinsella5303
    @hunterkinsella5303 Місяць тому +1

    Shyvana is definitely volatile in gameplay. I don't much appreciate getting hit with the damage of a max distance nidalee spear at full build... During laning phase with a 1 1/2 item ap shyv.

  • @metalmichew2
    @metalmichew2 Місяць тому +1

    I feel like illaoi can be easily changed to become a support, make the slow on E higher(also her tentacles hits can become a stun) way less damage on tentacles hits and make her ult like an ori ult kinda swipe of a tentacle, i think that could be hella fun

  • @jorgelaborde376
    @jorgelaborde376 Місяць тому +1

    For shyvana they should make it like k6 but a transformation ultimate, starts as a temportal one but as you get higher level it becomes permanent, also every 6 levels you upgrade a skill, as smolder and aurelion do with their stacks

  • @calebowen2006
    @calebowen2006 Місяць тому +1

    If I could remove 3 champs from the game it would easily be Ksante, current Asol, and Smolder. Surprise surprise they've all been released/reworked within the last 1.5 years and are basically scaling nightmares that are also safe or even lane bullies sometimes

  • @treymtz
    @treymtz Місяць тому +2

    You know, I never considered Assassins as a class that needs a lot of gold, just one that needs a normal amount. But rather they have the need to spend all their gold on offensive burst in order to be useful, because their kits are designed for engaging and disengaging they can get away with it.
    All in all, an excellent video. I think Illaoi feels out of place though, just because I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with her inconsistency. That in and of it self can be extremely fun when you hit your highs. At the end of the day, this is a video game and it NEEDS to be fun above everything else. I kind of like their approach nowadays with some of the champs designs not being so constraining, because it appeals to the casual audience more than the hyper competitive in a sense. Especially with how much more simpler they've gone with ability usage. Though League needs to be balanced at the higher levels of play to feel rewarding, I think champion designing aiming for casual audiences without constraints is a good thing.

  • @juuchan5795
    @juuchan5795 Місяць тому +3

    whoever made yuumi should feel ashamed forever.

  • @theholyroman6283
    @theholyroman6283 Місяць тому

    I would love a video about Taliyah’s redemption and newfound popularity going from a early game mage to a scaling macro mage

  • @miniloot1
    @miniloot1 22 дні тому

    Actually a huge problem with Pyke is that you can't build HP because of his passive, so you literally can't be tanky and all the nerfes make it impossible to build tank because you need the full assassin items to be more than a caster minion... I miss my tank Pyke top ... It was so fun ...

  • @lamarkfromm8064
    @lamarkfromm8064 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the video. Found a couple of champions to play :)

  • @muizzkazi5432
    @muizzkazi5432 Місяць тому +1

    The biggest issue with K'Sante is that in his ultimate he does %max health true damage. Why? Keep everything else if you don't want to kill the champion and all of the skill expression, just remove that portion. Even if K'Sante loses 35% HP, and Bonus Resistance, he still has a knockup/pull on his Q3, he still negates CC and can dash through units, while dealing damage, which also reduces incoming damage. And he still has a dash that gives him a shield to negate large chunks of burst damage.

    • @fasce
      @fasce Місяць тому

      So it's not useless against all top tanks? All tanks has %dmg

    • @muizzkazi5432
      @muizzkazi5432 Місяць тому

      @@fasce they have either physical or magic damage. No tank has %max health true damage.

    • @fasce
      @fasce Місяць тому

      It's only for 15 seconds and after you lost more than half hp and 85% of your resistancies. You can't expect to go all out and gets nothing in return.

  • @rootin5851
    @rootin5851 Місяць тому

    Well, maybe it's that notable in League only cause Tyrande exists and she is nice "assasin support" but also she's ranged , so no crazy dive combos like pyke does, only good old healing , which comes of cooldown faster if she's on offensive, plus mark what shreds targets armour making even tanks to retreat.

  • @MinhucVoPham
    @MinhucVoPham Місяць тому

    Never thought i would hear a blue archive ost on a league video

  • @nTu4Ka
    @nTu4Ka Місяць тому

    Illaoi can be a cool zoning bruiser if they rework her R.
    Something like Camile's ult + big tentacles spapping that you need to dodge. Currently she's just a disengage champ with big cooldown.

  • @zucchini2339
    @zucchini2339 Місяць тому

    How do you make a champion who punishes lack of “motion” have a playstyle of standing still

  • @astronebula858
    @astronebula858 Місяць тому

    It's a crime that this channel doesn't have a million subscribers.

  • @marethyuplays544
    @marethyuplays544 Місяць тому +1

    I’m so sad with everything around zeri, she is so fun to play, but due to the things mentioned she is too strong a lot of the time. I loved her old passive, it gave some counter to shield heavy teams, but since that was on top of all the other stuff, they got rid of it…😢

  • @tristan6773
    @tristan6773 Місяць тому

    I have an idea for shyvana rework
    let her be a rampaging melee tank.
    dragon form is tied to a FURY stacks
    she progressively gains her form by attacking minims/ monsters or taking damage or hitting spells on enemy champs
    fury fall off out of combat
    and she gains stats as she progresses into dragon form.
    health armor etc.
    her ult consumes all fury, explodes the dragon + heal.
    abilities get empowered as fury builds, but doesn’t consume fury.
    this is what I wanted smolder to be too. and his design fits the theme better cause he could just grow naturally in size to show his fury

  • @KaVun32
    @KaVun32 16 днів тому

    The mentioned entity possesses an impressive 4,700 hit points, symbolizing its robustness and resilience. Additionally, it boasts a formidable armor rating of 329, providing substantial protection against physical attacks. Furthermore, it exhibits a noteworthy magic resistance of 201, rendering it highly resistant to magical assaults. This entity is characterized by its unstoppable nature, making it impervious to hindrances and obstacles. Notably, it possesses a shield that

  • @jojotv9383
    @jojotv9383 Місяць тому

    I do so enjoy playing zeri. She fits perfectly into my marksman roster of Kog'maw, Jinx and well, her. I love these machineguns. They deal pretty similar damage overall, but if I want to have a safe laning phase without compromising dps or scaling, I pick Zeri because its so damn easy to get out of the laning phase even, and since she outscales most champs.. granted, it took a pretty long while to learn her, but csing is too easy and escaping too. Love this champ!

  • @PowerEd8
    @PowerEd8 Місяць тому

    9:26, interesting
    Haven't heard that term used before, adc/marksmen that stick it to the man, battle marksmen, sounds cool
    Swain and Vlad are what i consider the best examples of "Battlemages", Rio also considerers Anivia and Karthus to be ones too, maybe cuz of thier passives? cuz i thought battlemages are tankier than "regular" ones ( don't even know what Ryze is anymore, he used to be a prime example of battlemage with Desperate power and later his Rune shield )
    Why hasn't Riot named any sub classes for ADC? they are too few?,

  • @sumgoofygoober
    @sumgoofygoober Місяць тому +1

    Illaoi in my opinion is the most balanced champ right now. If you miss an ability you straight up lose if you hit all of your abilities you're basically 1v9. Unlike Irelia Yone or Gwen who misses everything but will kill you with auto attacks that has true damage crit AD and AP. And also there is Garen 👍.

  • @josephdevita2938
    @josephdevita2938 Місяць тому

    What is truly insane is zeri went through that many nerfs and mini reworks over the course of a year of being released. Now take a champion like kled who was released in 2016 has only been nerfed or buffed a total of 3 times if even in 8 years.

  • @vincvids7297
    @vincvids7297 Місяць тому +1

    the pain in his scream was so real

  • @SrVerataro
    @SrVerataro 29 днів тому

    "If there's no enemies left in lane, i don't need to support."
    -Me, Kled support main (2023)

  • @ivayloradev949
    @ivayloradev949 Місяць тому

    Every MF video is fire, keep it up dude in love with your deep analysis content, talking about league is so much move fun than playing it xD

  • @StonedDragons
    @StonedDragons Місяць тому

    I would have to say a carry support isn't new, be it in an assassin form is given how often Brand is played support, you might even throw Lux into there as well. The problem I see is that they deliberately nerf into the ground any other support who looks capable of carrying, take a look at Sona's AP ratios being nuked into the ground so she can't mid for instance despite never being the issue Pyke Mid was. That riot has chosen one role and said 'thou shalt never carry' instead of finding a better way to allow any support to keep up in gold and do so... Even the current busted support items not quite closing that gap.

  • @scl0074
    @scl0074 Місяць тому

    You know, Pyke makes me sad because i love his design and his gameplay and his thematic but I don't like support, so i live and die by the new lethality Hydra item in mid

  • @soixev6330
    @soixev6330 Місяць тому

    I come from smite where it is not uncommon to see some assassin play support, but the thing is they had to build like a support.
    And that is my main problem with pyke, at his release he wasn't forced to build full damage and lethality items, we had the option to build him more tanky without losing his strengh.
    In my opinion, Pyke was more balanced at his release but because Riot want the funny everyone one-shot, Pyke was forced to build lethality items.

  • @dj_rh
    @dj_rh Місяць тому +8

    The worst designed champion clearly is Sett because he isn't naked 😱😡👻

  • @Zairin.
    @Zairin. Місяць тому

    can't wait for reworked skarner to be in this series

  • @arkokroeger9799
    @arkokroeger9799 Місяць тому

    Honestly my personal award goes to karthus. He is the definition of pressure without much counterplay. When you kill him, he still is allowed to freefire on you and his ult blasts everyone on the enemy team. Like, what i am supposed to do against a karthus jungle? Pick briar and perma invade him until the game ends?

  • @Dat_Vi
    @Dat_Vi Місяць тому +1

    I thought I left my Blue Archive on and was confused lol

  • @jametsuchan
    @jametsuchan Місяць тому

    having shivana transform with her R similar to nidalee would be kinda cool

  • @jordanrutledge7943
    @jordanrutledge7943 Місяць тому +1

    I actually love shyvana, I love how she can be tanky, have good bruiser potential, and be a sniper mage, all in one game and with one build, but you have to hide while charging up ult. I don’t think she is poorly designed but her passive is definitely lame by 2024 standards

  • @a5tr4l
    @a5tr4l 22 дні тому

    Wasn’t expecting to hear Blue Archive music in the background

  • @jakubekch.3621
    @jakubekch.3621 Місяць тому

    honestly? pyke is a nice spin on the support class imo, his kit by itself does not deal enough damage to solo enemy adc or supp unless they are heavily out of place. His hook plays into the "if you're filling supp pick blitz" mentality of low elo so that auto filled zed player can still play his fav class. He has a nice smooth learning curve and is easy to execute ult (it skipping shields is BS and a sign of feature creep)

  • @SourPatchKun
    @SourPatchKun Місяць тому

    Zeri lost her shield stealing capabilities even after her 850 range nerf. Lost a lot of her damage on W. Runaans not giving additional stacks when hitting people during ult. Lost Spellblade on q. The fact that she's was on 52% wr when Stattik Shiv and pre hp nerf was meta can attest how busted still can be.

  • @benedu3450
    @benedu3450 Місяць тому

    vars's here , exploring all game ost available out there

  • @slaaneshshewhothirst9136
    @slaaneshshewhothirst9136 Місяць тому

    I would add a few other champs, Teemo, Singed, Zed and Akali. Teemo and Singed are annoying to fight against because they have the most unreactive lane to play against and are basically unable to be chased without losing your life. Teemo as perma-invis if standing still or in a bush without attacking, not to mention how strong his shrooms are right now. Akali and Zed (case could be made against Leblanc, Yasuo, Yone) have 10 000 dashes and becomes untargettable at some point in their kit (Akali’s Shroud and Zed ults). It makes them almost impossible to play against when playing a Mage. They hit 6 and even if you won lane, are level 8 and have an item on them they kill you in 2 abilities.

  • @AlryFireBlade
    @AlryFireBlade 4 дні тому

    or shyvana it would be nice, if she would be a basic shapeshifter. Ult Low Cooldown and aviable from lvl 1. Without the dash, just transform like nidalee.
    Then redisign her Human form Abilitys. Would be way cooler.
    I lked her back when Feral flare existed, but yes. That AP Shyvana is a strong option shows how old her kit is.

  • @average_potato
    @average_potato Місяць тому

    I honestly think Zeri's dash is fine. Cause thats her only mobility except her ult in which u just gain speed and not even a significant amount. Its easy for people to gap close on you. And if u need to use your e to dodge a skillshot then its on a very long cooldown. Can be used offensively and defensively. Every other battle mage as u said has some very good gap closers and combat mobility. Kalista has her passive vayne her q with a low cd and also damage amplification and even other marksmen with similar gameplay like samira and Nilah have very good combat mobility and gap closers. Zeri has no gap closer. Her dash is way too short for that. And has a way too long cd. So she will just get poked to death since most other edcs havesuperior range. So a good compensation for long cd and short range is what she got rn

  • @papads-chan5119
    @papads-chan5119 Місяць тому

    10:45 damm i still remember Divine sunderer Zeri on toplane. That was disgusting.

  • @benjamindamestoy3661
    @benjamindamestoy3661 28 днів тому

    Maybe an unpopular opinion, but as a support player (mainly enchanters), i think Pyke is actually really well designed.
    He's not a carry, but a snowball champion. If he gets ahead, he can clear and setup vision everywhere, locking the other supports on the lane, where they are at a disadvantage, or setting up a kill if they try to follow his roams.
    In this way, he can put all his teamates ahead, reaping the benefits and staying in the lead with his R.
    But if he gets behind, then any enchanter will eventually outscale him, and tank supports will freely compete with his vision control, while offering more to their team.
    He's not a support made for midlane assassin players, he's a support for actual main supports who understand the value of the role.
    And then you have Senna.

  • @MrMakTasty
    @MrMakTasty Місяць тому +1

    Hwei is terrible. Does too much if played right. One ability clears the wave and then he's got 3 abilities to use on champions. Bear in mind that you can't really dodge them if he lands the fear. And he avoids ganks better than other immobile champions. Does waaaay too much

  • @habu9344
    @habu9344 Місяць тому

    As a pyke one trick since for the last 3 years I really think he needs to just be reworked into a midlaner or jungler. They could actually make him a semi-healthy champion for the game if this was the case.

  • @TheSorrowfulAngel
    @TheSorrowfulAngel Місяць тому

    Illaoi is such a... sad champion.
    The thing is: Every looks and feels good about her. Her tentacle mechanic, her unique niche as a sieging juggernaut, the weight of her animations, uniqueness of her E and her R feels very juggernauty if nothing else - and more tentacles, thats great.
    But she is such a broken mess of a champ regardless. Probably the worst lanebully to face.
    She definitely needs an update, likely a midscope or full gameplay rework... but its difficult. The niche of siege is pretty damn negligible these days. Her R is probably a good skill to do work on, I feel it is the weakest part of her kit - but that doesnt really touch her laning oppressiveness.

  • @TheDragoti
    @TheDragoti 25 днів тому

    Biggest problem i have with zeri, is that I never feel like its worth to play her. If I find success on any build or rune, IT DOESNT MATTER. Riot will change everything anyways in 1-2 Patches with her. i could never otp her just because riot cant balance proplay and solo Q with this champion. I play her from time to time, have a blast then i see a patch and that just instantly demotivates me to continue to play her.
    Its sad tho. I'd really love to otp her ._.

  • @opera4591
    @opera4591 Місяць тому

    Remember that Samira cant E to her allies anymore

  • @v1pogio118
    @v1pogio118 Місяць тому

    the fun thing is that ksante is getting buffed

  • @bosscoolaid1015
    @bosscoolaid1015 Місяць тому

    What I learned from this: Riot needs to stop tinkering with assassin hybrids

  • @saadghali9803
    @saadghali9803 Місяць тому

    Vars saw the drama and speedran making a video

  • @nicholasfigueiredo3171
    @nicholasfigueiredo3171 Місяць тому

    I think it is a good list. I actually loved Zeri when she was heavily nerfed just before the rework that changed her ult/passive/range etc. It was the fantasy of mosquito biting them until they were dead because your damage was so low. It was the most fun champion I played in league. Now she just plays like samira where you jump use everything and burst people that's not that fun ;/ Before she was like a mix of ashe/ezreal

  • @TheGodGojou
    @TheGodGojou Місяць тому

    Can we have a video talking about the best designed champs

  • @ibrahim5463
    @ibrahim5463 Місяць тому

    Which ever one i fell like it at the moment, one day yone another day urgot and another one could be vayne or lee sin

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 Місяць тому

    Also THANK YOU, Ive been saying this about Illaoi for YEARS
    That champ would be permabanned in my games if people actually played her. One of the least fun champs to play in the game because of how all or nothing she is and how you have to play against her as if she can be the "all" almost any time. Not OP at all just fucking anti fun.

  • @Zorplex.Gaming
    @Zorplex.Gaming 3 дні тому

    T1 would have other things to say about Illaoi

  • @LuckySoftpaw
    @LuckySoftpaw 24 дні тому

    I feel like Senna has the same issue Pyke does, adc wants tons of gold but support gets none.

  • @firesong7825
    @firesong7825 23 дні тому

    The auto-generated chapters: Alla, Shyana, Pike, Zary, Kante

  • @danielsmall2037
    @danielsmall2037 20 днів тому

    Thought i clicked on the wrong video when i heard the blue archive music in the background 😅

  • @AlryFireBlade
    @AlryFireBlade 4 дні тому

    To Pyke (yes with Y, its wrong in the chapters):
    I will never understand, who thought putting the most not supportive playstyle of support on a suupport champion, on the lane where his number 1 targets are, was a good idea.
    He is so frustrating to play against. It is even hard to poke hhiim out of lane due to his passiv. and high base HP. Then he even gernate gold.
    Make him a Mid Laner and I would still hhate him for beeing ann assassin, but at least, he is where he should belong.

  • @eli2210
    @eli2210 Місяць тому

    Have you ever played Vainglory?? There was a lot of similarities between the games but I honestly liked that game a bit more than league. I reached that games “challenger” equivalent and I thought it was fun before the 5v5 update that killed it. There were some mechanics and characters I wish were in league. Dodging was one ability mechanic to two characters one named Taka where he flips over a target either minion, champion or turret and during that he dodged all cc and damage. If used too early you wouldn’t be able to escape but used too late you’d be dead so it was always cool timing it perfectly. It was fun honestly. There was also Unstoppable as a passive to on character where he is immune to all cc (except silence) but he was always slowed no matter what when he would get cced. So it f you tried stunning him, you’d just slow him. He also had a stun on his Q but would only stun at full level up rank and before it would only slow. Certain abilities would only be enhanced if they were fully ranked so you’d have to choose which one you wanted fully maxed. There was 3 abilities 2 being your regular and ult. Some games you’d want one or the other regular maxed or both at the cost of a less powerful ult. There was also fortified health where while fighting you would get extra defensive health that falls off if you stopped fighting making commitments valuable otherwise you’d just die. It would activate only if you fought not if you take damage. It was a bit broken sometimes ngl though. I miss that game

  • @Vitososo
    @Vitososo Місяць тому

    blue archive song mentioned!!!

  • @iapetes1
    @iapetes1 Місяць тому

    Also zeri, the second problem is dead on but the first 'problem' is nonexistent. Being a caster adc doesn't mean you have to be mid game only. It's input, how you play, not output, what you can do. Smolder is an ad caster late game character too
    Zeris entire problem is that her whole identity is wrapped up in way too high mobility

  • @jespereriksson3305
    @jespereriksson3305 Місяць тому

    Assassins require alot of gold, 5 carries instead of 4 and one support etc.
    Mage supports meanwhile:

  • @buzzlightyearpfp7641
    @buzzlightyearpfp7641 Місяць тому +2

    smiled when Showmaker got brought up cause i already knew what the clip was gonna be

  • @user-vi1oz5vf7q
    @user-vi1oz5vf7q Місяць тому

    Shyvana yenilenirse şöyle bir şey olsun isterdim: İnsanken 2 kısa kılıç kullansa ve kızıl zırh giyse havalı olabilirdi. Bir de eski Volibear'ın kükremesini E yeteneği olsa hoş olabilir.

  • @KasserScharped
    @KasserScharped Місяць тому

    Showmaker is pure gold

  • @gabrielebasa4292
    @gabrielebasa4292 Місяць тому

    Idk the league of legends or how it works, but this video very cool

  • @bradyseigfried2395
    @bradyseigfried2395 Місяць тому

    Next 5 predicitons: Rell, Ryze, Nilah, Yone, Samira

  • @exalt2674
    @exalt2674 Місяць тому

    So that's where the meme came from.

  • @CalypsoTheWanderingStar
    @CalypsoTheWanderingStar Місяць тому +4

    Tbh, as an Illaoi main, I feel like they need to give her the Diana treatment and make the e her ult and vice versa and tweak/rebalance her around that

    • @trentmarsh3752
      @trentmarsh3752 Місяць тому +2

      As a Illaoi main myself, i think she has a perfect cohesive kit that is hard to find in League

    • @CalypsoTheWanderingStar
      @CalypsoTheWanderingStar Місяць тому +1

      @@trentmarsh3752 oh ya no I agree, she's a ton of fun, have mained her since release and have over 1.1 million mp on her. I'd just wish she could brawl more than sit back and poke, or that I wasn't as reliant as sitting in one place without anyways to actually keep people close to me ya know?

    • @MartialArtsForY
      @MartialArtsForY Місяць тому

      as a masters top laner who plays as and against her fairly often, her e and ulty need to be changed. Q and W are fine as well as her passive but he E eats up far too much of her power budget and her ulty will never be an "ultimate" without her e. Change it up and she will be vastly fairer to play against and can have strength put into her kit elsewhere.

    • @baptistecochennec5956
      @baptistecochennec5956 Місяць тому

      ​@@trentmarsh3752her kit is cohevise nobody said otherwise it's just not fun to play agaisnt and VERY match-up dependant

    • @Invisius1
      @Invisius1 Місяць тому

      the biggest thing that has to happen to illaoi, is that the tentacles should not continue with the hit, if you kill them mid swing. So stupid to kill it, and suddenly you lose 20% as your health as a squishy to a literal ghost.

  • @drbeeezz616
    @drbeeezz616 Місяць тому

    I think it's great that you discuss fundamental flaws and champions designs, however I would like to hear some solutions you might have for those champions. When you're looking for solutions on how to redesign a champion, you'll often start to understand some reasons why they are designed the way they are. And Other times their design is BS.