Why Flying is So Expensive

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 4 тис.

  • @shelvacu
    @shelvacu 8 років тому +5803

    ✓Interesting
    ✓Acurate & non-clickbait title
    ✓Appears to be well researched
    ✓Well paced
    ✓Good video.

    • @drewway9599
      @drewway9599 8 років тому +22

      Are you a pilot of any level? This is a very inaccurate video

    • @shelvacu
      @shelvacu 8 років тому +91

      +Jay Birdd i never claimed it was accurate. I said it had an accurate title (as in a title that accurately describes the contents) and that it *appears* to be well-researched. I am not a pilot and I did not attempt to verify anything in the video.

    • @Horny_Fruit_Flies
      @Horny_Fruit_Flies 8 років тому +12

      +Jay Birdd Could you elaborate?

    • @alexanderreid3260
      @alexanderreid3260 8 років тому +60

      +Jay Birdd - And what exactly would a pilot know about the cost of an airplane ticket? That doesn't make any sense pal. It's not hard information, it's food for thought.

    • @drewway9599
      @drewway9599 8 років тому +5

      Alexander Reid A pilot has likely flown on a commercial flight before. Unrelated, but I do hold a Private Pilot's License.

  • @CordVarty
    @CordVarty 7 років тому +884

    My ticket from Chicago to the Philippines was $488 round trip compared to $1400 for Detroit to the Philippines. Competition is nice 🙂

    • @PixelBytesPixelArtist
      @PixelBytesPixelArtist 6 років тому +48

      Well, that’s Detroit

    • @GlowingSpamraam
      @GlowingSpamraam 6 років тому +49

      +darkness i can fly from copenhagen to paris for 10 euro on a budget flight
      lmao whatya doin americans

    • @samuelrivera3534
      @samuelrivera3534 6 років тому +4

      I cant never find a deal like that to the philippines. The bestb i did was $630

    • @donvito204
      @donvito204 6 років тому +18

      Fuck the Philippines

    • @lawrencesantillan8918
      @lawrencesantillan8918 5 років тому +31

      kill them all Wow thanks that's like one of the nicest comments I've heard. Like what did the Philippines ever even do to you?

  • @SergiuszOlszewski
    @SergiuszOlszewski 4 роки тому +837

    USA: FAA's flat tax per ticket = $4
    Europe: Ticket price = $4

    • @Nezuko-rl8zr
      @Nezuko-rl8zr 4 роки тому +13

      Sergiusz Olszewski the ticket prices in the eu are actually more expensive

    • @turkrene
      @turkrene 4 роки тому +132

      Actually I just bought the ryanair flight from london to venice for 6€

    • @CatholicWeeb
      @CatholicWeeb 4 роки тому +14

      Yay Cheap European Airlines!

    • @ChromePalace
      @ChromePalace 4 роки тому +3

      Sergiusz Olszewski Eastern Europe is a hellhole compared to the US lol

    • @FEATUREME
      @FEATUREME 4 роки тому +16

      @@Nezuko-rl8zr Then how come tickets can be as low as €1

  • @stepha9587
    @stepha9587 4 роки тому +728

    US:
    Europe: *laughs in ryanair and easyjet*

    • @dontsubscribeme9547
      @dontsubscribeme9547 4 роки тому +24

      No.. Laughs in kilometre... 😡😡

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 4 роки тому +48

      @HuckleB680 he has other videos where he focuses on budget airlines like Easyjet and Ryanair though. Go watch them

    • @nytrex_yt7417
      @nytrex_yt7417 4 роки тому

      duffman18 True

    • @ChromePalace
      @ChromePalace 4 роки тому +10

      steph a USA: Laughs in Spirit, Allegiant, and Frontier.

    • @ChromePalace
      @ChromePalace 4 роки тому +5

      steph a Plus America invented the plane while Europeans were busy fighting stupid wars against each other.

  • @yidy1
    @yidy1 7 років тому +247

    One has to appreciate the many hours of research you invested for this video. Thank you!

  • @MrBasinator
    @MrBasinator 8 років тому +419

    "How to become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and start an airline."

    • @ladhkay
      @ladhkay 8 років тому +24

      +MrBasinator or get married

    • @MultiTrollNation
      @MultiTrollNation 8 років тому +19

      +MrBasinator If the airline is successful you will make millions, if the airline fails, you'll go bankrupt an lose everything...

    • @gamepool8517
      @gamepool8517 Рік тому +3

      -richard Branson

    • @limitedcat4641
      @limitedcat4641 Рік тому +1

      O

    • @drgrey7026
      @drgrey7026 Рік тому +2

      -Warren buffet probably

  • @Ramy-cr9rl
    @Ramy-cr9rl 6 років тому +83

    1:00 thats amazing, wow you sound so enthusiastic

  • @cryptality701
    @cryptality701 5 років тому +293

    Reallifelore : Toyota Corolla
    Wendover Productions : Toyota Camry

    • @thunder7650
      @thunder7650 4 роки тому +11

      RealLifeLore: _triggered_

    • @benhuang2773
      @benhuang2773 4 роки тому +12

      Now we need a UA-cam channel that talks about the Toyota Yaris

    • @chopperv1313
      @chopperv1313 4 роки тому

      Yeah. What's your point?

    • @Not_Aran8276
      @Not_Aran8276 4 роки тому +1

      Aran8276: Toyota Vios
      (me)

    • @Sam-cn5yd
      @Sam-cn5yd 4 роки тому +4

      Bendover productions*

  • @IRegretnothing74
    @IRegretnothing74 8 років тому +494

    Just the effort in the math and research spent into this deserves my like...

    • @stevenelief6784
      @stevenelief6784 9 місяців тому

      Excellent. KLM (Northwest) flew daily from AMS to MEM, deleted when NWA was bought. It was the only non-stop in Europe to Memphis, always full, and expensive. Pity.

  • @grahamw2455
    @grahamw2455 4 роки тому +2199

    Moment of silence for the pilots who spent hundreds of thousands on training just to get paid a little more then a flight attendant

    • @Dani_1012
      @Dani_1012 4 роки тому +97

      I find that so unjust. The crew members need to be paid more

    • @rachaeljuddx
      @rachaeljuddx 4 роки тому +195

      @@Dani_1012 Why? They are not flying the aircraft.

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 4 роки тому +216

      @@rachaeljuddx Cabin crew are seen performing passenger service, but that's just a small part of their role. They are also charged with a host of safety-of-flight and emergency actions that most passengers either don't notice or, thankfully, never have to see.

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 4 роки тому +212

      Most pilots make more than the quoted figure. The Captain of a major-airline long-haul jet generally makes over $200K, while the Captain of a short-haul budget carrier turboprop might start at around $50K. The difference is training, experience, and level of responsibility. The average gets driven by the fact that there a lot more short-haul pilots.

    • @cheerbozz
      @cheerbozz 4 роки тому +17

      Graham W pilots needs to be paid more

  • @aaronchandler2812
    @aaronchandler2812 4 роки тому +24

    Great video. Honestly, aircraft maintenance is generally overlooked by the majority of the public. As a technician, I love it when videos like these bring to light all that goes into a plane. Its a lot of work, a lot of knowledge and experience, and a lot of dedication and focus.

    • @allnighter2011
      @allnighter2011 7 місяців тому

      And it's the one area you don't wanna cut corners in

  • @5710fpilot
    @5710fpilot Рік тому +4

    OMG! This just came up on autoplay... A young wendover intro! I remember these, your videos have come so far and still are just as informative as ever! Great work Sam!

  • @HanSolo-dh4rn
    @HanSolo-dh4rn 8 років тому +107

    Toyata Camry advertisement is obvious

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +97

      +Henry Davies Man I wish they'd sponsor me. I just picked a popular, fuel efficient car

    • @vandendriessched
      @vandendriessched 8 років тому +8

      +Wendoverproductions Also your 47 times from NY to Cali is wrong. 317 gallons * 42 MPG highway =13314 miles. NY to LA = about 2800 miles. It equals 4.7 times from NY to LA

    • @thementalist7767
      @thementalist7767 8 років тому

      Getting my new RAV4 Hybrid now ;D

    • @electricdreamer
      @electricdreamer 8 років тому

      yep, the calculations are wrong.

    • @saraymubasiri1600
      @saraymubasiri1600 7 років тому

      When you're buying a car you just ask the MPG you don't ask how many seats in it and what''s the MPG if you drive completely full all the time.

  • @benwyatt7619
    @benwyatt7619 7 років тому +1677

    USA needs to switch to metric system I have no idea how much a gallon is

    • @benwyatt7619
      @benwyatt7619 7 років тому +226

      And lbs seriously

    • @CatManUtdFC
      @CatManUtdFC 7 років тому +168

      at least you don't have to deal with it every day. I'm studying engineering and looking up conversions for everything suuuuucks

    • @games1004
      @games1004 7 років тому +142

      1 gal = 3.78541178 liter and 10 seconds on a web browser. :-P

    • @CatManUtdFC
      @CatManUtdFC 7 років тому +153

      Yes and when you are doing 10 plus conversions a day, 5 days a week 10 seconds really adds up.

    • @dom2428
      @dom2428 7 років тому +83

      oh, how many total seconds in a gallon then?

  • @michoelpanzok7803
    @michoelpanzok7803 4 роки тому +31

    There hasn’t been a video made by wendover productions that wasn’t
    Informative
    Interesting
    Helpful
    Hard work put into it
    THANK YOU

  • @jasoncummings7052
    @jasoncummings7052 5 років тому +1

    Thank you very much for this well researched info.
    Helps us to appreciate the multitude of departments that works behind the scene for the aviation industry.
    Much appreciated.

  • @andresil8330
    @andresil8330 8 років тому +52

    *Man, if this video was a written document it would be pratically an end-of-graduation-course paper.* Really good job.

  • @griffithscott2318
    @griffithscott2318 8 років тому +896

    he sounds like a male version of tina from bobs burgers

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +110

      +Griffith Scott You're like the third person to tell me that

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering 8 років тому +40

      +Wendoverproductions The question is, do you write fantasy romance stories about zombies?

    • @merciv
      @merciv 8 років тому +20

      I can't unhear it oh my god

    • @Einhander49
      @Einhander49 8 років тому +1

      that's a terrible show and you should feel bad for liking it

    • @JQUIZ45
      @JQUIZ45 8 років тому +25

      tina is voiced by a male... lol

  • @berrauniverse
    @berrauniverse 5 років тому +51

    My ticket from Sweden to Austria was 9$

    • @peterschmidt7543
      @peterschmidt7543 5 років тому

      Good price, good direction.

    • @orppranator5230
      @orppranator5230 5 років тому

      h0rsten What?
      That has got to be BS.

    • @berrauniverse
      @berrauniverse 5 років тому +4

      @@orppranator5230 haha its true! Just the right ticket at the right time.

    • @tylerlackey1175
      @tylerlackey1175 2 роки тому

      Well yeah. Sweden is so god awful, I'd imagine the competition to get out is high. Price has gotta be low then
      Also reddit moment

  • @3unhy3
    @3unhy3 2 роки тому

    what a neat little video perfect for all ages; love how you use visuals and esp music to really keep interest, change mood, and change up the pacing/rhythm of what otherwise would be a load of awesome information nonetheless

  • @thegamesource
    @thegamesource 8 років тому +708

    9/11 tax?? what a fucking scam!

    • @AmerikanGrizzly
      @AmerikanGrizzly 8 років тому +111

      +kylen1487 dont worry dude, rest assured when the FBI put them to the test, only 95% of weapons made it past!

    • @rdablock
      @rdablock 8 років тому +66

      We gonna have to slam another airplane to a building to make this ridiculous expense worth it

    • @raysson1
      @raysson1 8 років тому +26

      +kylen1487 The US could get rid of it and lower the security measures but as soon as the next terror attack on a plane/airport happens people are going to want to have it back anyway.

    • @nightarrow7473
      @nightarrow7473 8 років тому +3

      +Gempowerment but does it really works??
      look I don't know who has connections to the 9/11 but I think the US government itself has a big part in it, you can clearly see that they are having an economy itself from that TAX so called 9/11 TAX!!!

    • @LeonardoVibes
      @LeonardoVibes 8 років тому +42

      Are they $9.11 ?

  • @Butter_bread_
    @Butter_bread_ 7 років тому +21

    Flying from NZ to LA return just 5 years ago was $2200. Now it's $899 thanks to American Airlines, Qantas etc. we only had 1 air travel company until now.

  • @slay47808
    @slay47808 6 років тому +1

    So glad you had that little bit about winglets! Very informative and helpful!

  • @krissp8712
    @krissp8712 4 роки тому +21

    8:04* shows "more efficient engine"
    Me: that's also the Trent 1000 with cracked compressor blades grounding a hundred dreamliners in 2019 🤔

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie 3 роки тому

      check the date this was uploaded. 4 years before the 737 max was grounded

    • @sezzysays4351
      @sezzysays4351 3 роки тому

      Lunameliaるなめりあ ?? He was referring to the 787 Dreamliners.... not to 737 Max.

  • @LifeInspector
    @LifeInspector 8 років тому +523

    Here's what I don't understand: How come cruises are so cheap? They have the many of the same costs as airlines (big company, crew costs, taxes), but 3 days on a cruise with unlimited food, entertainment, housing, and more, can cost the same as a 12-hour flight.

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +318

      If you look up the economic principle of "economies of scale" that will answer this. More people=lower costs. Also, in a lot of cases the alcohol isn't included which makes up a lot of the cost

    • @bristoled93
      @bristoled93 8 років тому +21

      Cruises are very expensive at least the ones I would like to go on (the largest ones), flying is much cheaper than the cruises.

    • @cannack
      @cannack 8 років тому +73

      cruise ships are generally cheaper per person, exempot from ALOT of taxes, port costs are cheaper than landing fees in alot of cases,
      cruise ships also run on slimey fuel oil, airliners run on practically baby oil!

    • @marcelokawas
      @marcelokawas 8 років тому +31

      Cruise ships carry 1000+ people

    • @zaklautner6741
      @zaklautner6741 8 років тому +18

      Cruise ship doesn't carry 154 people dude

  • @gantmj
    @gantmj 7 років тому +655

    1.) Flying is cheap.
    2.) Fuel is way too cheap.
    3.) The small pay gap between flight attendants and pilots is insulting to pilots.
    4.) Airports charging by the pound is a racket.

    • @SidestickPilot
      @SidestickPilot 7 років тому +43

      Yup a flying waitress or waiter as well as a personal service makes $6 per hour less then the actual pilots. Makes sense...

    • @11290lars
      @11290lars 7 років тому +200

      Saying a flight attendant is just a flying waitress is like saying the pilots are just bus drivers.

    • @SidestickPilot
      @SidestickPilot 7 років тому +84

      I'm saying that the skill level and experience differences in the two jobs are significant but the pay doesn't reflect that. Some first officers make less then flight attendants. That makes no sense.

    • @11290lars
      @11290lars 7 років тому +53

      Bailey Davis You're forgetting that the flight attendants are also schooled in crew management and safety procedures up to the EASA/FAA standards and honestly, all the pilots do these days is just set the end point and do the comms and the plane does the rest mostly.

    • @SidestickPilot
      @SidestickPilot 7 років тому +80

      Not really. You're constantly monitoring the controls and you are not allowed to take your hands off the flight controls. Plus when an emergency happens the pilots are the ones that are tasked with all of the work load. Flight attendants aren't tasked with flight planning or controlling an aircraft with over a hundred human lives on board.

  • @clkhere434
    @clkhere434 5 років тому +1

    Best video I have watched this week. Thanks for solid content.

  • @jiminyhopkins
    @jiminyhopkins 5 років тому +1

    6:14 shout out to the Holiday Inn Express in Daytona Beach Shores, Florida! Stayed there many times!

  • @lesliedellow1533
    @lesliedellow1533 8 років тому +27

    Peak time travel by train from where I live to London (about 150 miles) would cost me £205 return, or 68 pence per mile.
    Return air fare from London to New York (3,470 miles) would cost me £350 return, or 5 pence per mile.
    So if you think air fares are expensive, you should try train travel in Britain.

    • @rbagel55
      @rbagel55 8 років тому

      +Leslie Dellow Really? So you are saying that it is more expensive to travel by rail than it is by air in Britain?

    • @lesliedellow1533
      @lesliedellow1533 8 років тому +1

      +rbagel55
      Yep. I remember a few years ago, after the latest hike in rail fares, somebody on the television news saying that it would be cheaper for them to catch a plane down from the Midlands, to London, where they worked.

    • @rbagel55
      @rbagel55 8 років тому

      Leslie Dellow
      That doesn't make sense. I wonder if the same is happening in France or Germany?
      Don't know-I'm an American from San Antonio
      TX and wish we had HS rail here, they talk how much cheaper it is over air fare. But I read you comment and I wonder why

    • @lesliedellow1533
      @lesliedellow1533 8 років тому +3

      +rbagel55
      Twenrty or more years ago now, the railways in Britain were denationalised. But they still need large Government subsidies to keep them afloat, and, now that they have got shareholders, that subsidy effectively goes straight into shareholder's pockets.
      If they are not commercially viable, they should be nationalised, and Government money should be used infrastructure, and keeping the fares down - not for making shareholders rich. So far as I know, no other European country has followed our insane example.

    • @rbagel55
      @rbagel55 8 років тому +1

      Leslie Dellow I don't think so. Several years ago, I did a trip to Europe, rode the
      TGV in France, the ICE in Gemany and Austria. Didn't quite make it to the UK, but I was told by another passenger that trains there don't travel the speeds they do in France, well because this person said that the UK lacks LGV or dedicated high speed
      rail, so speeds are limited to like 100 MPH.
      Well still better than here in the USA.
      Supposedly a bill has been passed to build
      17500 miles of dedicated high speed rail, connecting all major US cities by 2030.
      Funny thing is I live in San Antonio TX, and I work out of town often, and I see nothing being
      built, no progress report available on the web.
      I understand that in countries like France is
      one of the reason for their affordable fare is
      the abundance of cheap electricity from
      nuclear power. Well the problem here is
      we haven't built any new nuclear power stations since the 70's due to the 3 mile Island incident. So I am wondering what the
      benifit of have such a system would be for us-that is having nothing but old polluting
      and somewhat expensive gas turbine and coal fired plants. Probably not much-carbon footprint would the same!

  • @pranavkadambi5959
    @pranavkadambi5959 7 років тому +552

    Thanks, i got all i need for starting an airline.
    Wish me good luck!

    • @moniquejemmott-brown1801
      @moniquejemmott-brown1801 7 років тому +41

      Pranav Kadambi good luck
      btw I'm flying free on your airline

    • @pranavkadambi5959
      @pranavkadambi5959 7 років тому +28

      M JB I'll reserve a seat just for you!

    • @jesusgonzalez6715
      @jesusgonzalez6715 7 років тому +4

      Pranav Kadambi airlines are getting their butts kicked by high-speed rail all over the developed world.

    • @eric1895
      @eric1895 7 років тому +1

      LOL whats gonna call?

    • @pranavkadambi5959
      @pranavkadambi5959 7 років тому +10

      WOW. You just ruined the mood here, Thank You

  • @vinuv16
    @vinuv16 5 років тому

    what a brief explanation of the running expense of an aircraft. This channel is so genuine. A subscribing is worth it..

  • @mario5554
    @mario5554 6 років тому

    You make excellent explanatory materials dude, congratulations and thanks!

  • @elijahmasquelier1238
    @elijahmasquelier1238 8 років тому +256

    I never realized that operating an airplane was so expensive to the airline itself. Here I was thinking airlines were making like $100 per person for the $150 flight.

    • @bbmikej
      @bbmikej 8 років тому +46

      +Elijah Masquelier The airline business is weird in that a 2.5% profit margin is considered good.

    • @steprockmedia
      @steprockmedia 8 років тому +10

      +Michael That sounds like a lousy ROI, considering the cost, regulation, and inherent complexity. I'd expect my $80 ticket to profit at least 20%

    • @bbmikej
      @bbmikej 8 років тому +20

      +steprockmedia The airlines are incredibly deregulated compared to what they used to be. The government used to tell you what routes you could service and how much you could charge. that is why flying today is cheaper than it was back in the 60s and 70s.

    • @Mbeluba
      @Mbeluba 8 років тому +20

      Free market would not allow such a huge profit margin.

    • @infiltr80r
      @infiltr80r 6 років тому +5

      Delta is 11% net, American is 7% net, United is 8%. This is net, after taxes, fat salaries and bonuses for the board etc. Alaska operating profit margin is a whopping 23%! Where are these 2.5% profit margin airlines you talk about?
      Going through many non-US airlines, almost none had profit margins as high.

  • @tunafishjoe
    @tunafishjoe 8 років тому +534

    The US should apply this competition concept to their health insurance!

    • @idontknowum
      @idontknowum 8 років тому +28

      +Gordon Tendick #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

    • @Drumsgoon
      @Drumsgoon 8 років тому +2

      +Gordon Tendick Yes!

    • @tunafishjoe
      @tunafishjoe 8 років тому +34

      ***** Just because it comes out of an idiots mouth doesn't mean it's wrong. This idea has been argued for decades. Trump is just a parrot.

    • @USA____
      @USA____ 8 років тому +27

      Go trump

    • @HarionDafar
      @HarionDafar 8 років тому +22

      +Aertraveller no, he is out of his mind.

  • @Tuton25
    @Tuton25 6 років тому +7

    I'm going to Japan for $700, and I think thats pretty incredible. If I wanted to do that 100 years ago, I'd have to get to a city like Chicago by horse or car, then a train to San Francisco, then a trans-pacific boat to Japan, a trip that I assume would take a week or two on both sides of my trip. Now I drop some cash and can do it in half a day.

  • @brian7224
    @brian7224 4 роки тому

    Thank You for ONCE a no nonsense ad free INFORMATIVE video...I will subscribe right now !

  • @nasifulhuda31
    @nasifulhuda31 7 років тому +25

    The aviation videos from Wendover Productions are always so detailed and interesting to watch.

    • @amartin6255
      @amartin6255 6 років тому

      The videos are entertaining, but they would be a lot better if they had some semblance of accuracy.

  • @HDAviationVideos
    @HDAviationVideos 8 років тому +8

    Very interesting and informative! Thanks for sharing this video.

  • @turbopumped6490
    @turbopumped6490 5 років тому +166

    The title should be: Why flying in the US is so expensive...

    • @mr.f2p552
      @mr.f2p552 4 роки тому +12

      Canada: hold my beer

    • @Vlad-De-Impalor
      @Vlad-De-Impalor 4 роки тому +8

      Ha look up flying in Canada. USA is cheap

    • @imluvinyourmum
      @imluvinyourmum 4 роки тому +6

      He’s talking about Europe’s $20 flights, basically need to get the plane back to a popular departure spot so they just fill the plane for cheap.

    • @tylerlackey1175
      @tylerlackey1175 2 роки тому

      Reddit moment

  • @beechface1
    @beechface1 5 років тому +14

    5:36 the mechanics reply whenever I take my car in for anything.

  • @gurumage9555
    @gurumage9555 8 років тому +9

    Educational and nice presentation, SUBSCRIBED!

  • @loveisanopendoor5745
    @loveisanopendoor5745 7 років тому +167

    1:00 "That's amazing"
    Me : You don't sound amazed...

    • @bertg5294
      @bertg5294 5 років тому

      I, not me...

    • @pug2858
      @pug2858 5 років тому +6

      @@bertg5294 Me, not i...

    • @bertg5294
      @bertg5294 5 років тому

      I say, not me say. go to school. idiot

    • @pug2858
      @pug2858 5 років тому +2

      @@bertg5294 jesus fucking christ man learn english lmao. And yes im 12th grade...
      I love when some people are too ignorant so they think that everything they say is correct.
      Or youre just trolling idk.

    • @bertg5294
      @bertg5294 5 років тому

      no, I. idiot. I said. not me said. go back to school

  • @za1pp
    @za1pp 5 років тому +1

    *This guy is the best at these types of videos, congrats brother!*

  • @garychristenson6370
    @garychristenson6370 6 років тому

    Very good video. Gives a well-rounded look at the many costs I had no idea about.

  • @Wizylt
    @Wizylt 8 років тому +55

    For European this is a weird topic. Flights are way cheaper here.

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +17

      +Wizylt My original script included a section on how budget airlines are able to fly for so cheap but this video was long enough already. I might make a video in the future about that

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering 8 років тому +1

      +Wizylt Flights in Asia, especially with AirAsia, are even cheaper.

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +5

      +Real Engineering Shouldn't you be asleep! Anyways I do the Edinburgh London flight a lot, about twice the distance of NYC to dc, and that's usually 10-20 pounds on ryanair. It'd unbelievable how much cheaper it is in the UK and Europe.

    • @RealEngineering
      @RealEngineering 8 років тому

      +Wendoverproductions Can't sleep! It's fantastic, Kuala Lumpur to Singapore is about the same cost with AirAsia. My return flights to Bangkok for this weekend were about 50-60 pounds.

    • @johnnyconnors9991
      @johnnyconnors9991 8 років тому +3

      +Wizylt OK euroPEEn. you feel so special? youll never be better than usa.

  • @thermochemicalmissile8181
    @thermochemicalmissile8181 8 років тому +152

    why are Britains train tickets to bloody expensive

    • @brownriced
      @brownriced 8 років тому +66

      +ThermoChemicalMissile tory cunts privatising everything that's why

    • @thermochemicalmissile8181
      @thermochemicalmissile8181 8 років тому +7

      +RandomAsianGuy too right

    • @spencerwilton8876
      @spencerwilton8876 8 років тому +16

      +RandomAsianGuy Nationalised railways were a complete joke. You're probably too young to remember. Yes trains aren't great in this country, but they are a million times better than they were when I was growing up in the early 1980's. What you forget about the railways is we have one of the worlds oldest networks, costs are huge.

    • @thermochemicalmissile8181
      @thermochemicalmissile8181 8 років тому +28

      +Spencer Wilton yeah but that was because it was so poorly funded not because it was national I mean look at Germany France and other European countries their rail is like 10 x better than ours

    • @brownriced
      @brownriced 8 років тому +1

      Spencer Wilton They may be better than before but we don't seem to be keeping up with the rest of the world! Even though England is one of the fastest growing countries in the world and everyone wants to come here.

  • @yuhansungscoffee4565
    @yuhansungscoffee4565 7 років тому +1

    Love your videos. highly informative and easy to comprehend.

  • @ReptarrBarr
    @ReptarrBarr 7 років тому +178

    WAIT... 317 gallons of gas is 49 trips from NY to LA? That's 6.46 gallons of gas to drive from NY to LA? That's about 429 MPG? Seriously? Where do I buy this god-send camry?

    • @user-ty6we2sp2m
      @user-ty6we2sp2m 6 років тому +3

      Kevin I want on eim the future if nothing is better

    • @nevillec5252
      @nevillec5252 5 років тому +20

      Kevin Yeah, I was wondering too. 2800 miles for 6.47 gallons is about 432 mpg. That's a helluva Toyota!

    • @lakshyamongia3270
      @lakshyamongia3270 5 років тому +19

      You gotta trust him, its a camry.

    • @AW-gj4ji
      @AW-gj4ji 5 років тому +9

      Don’t forget to multiply the MPG by the number of passengers now we have 2145!!

    • @kashyaptank9581
      @kashyaptank9581 5 років тому +4

      What if he meant NY to DC?

  • @johnsmithbushdid911
    @johnsmithbushdid911 8 років тому +358

    9/11 security fee. ayy lmao

    • @TheSecondVersion
      @TheSecondVersion 6 років тому +20

      The TSA is a joke.

    • @luisrosales9349
      @luisrosales9349 6 років тому +15

      Vito C I wouldn't say a joke. They really do keep us safe but the 9/11 fee is bullshit. Its a fee to do what they're supposed to do anyway. But the TSA "Agents" are assholes.

    • @daddyrabbit835
      @daddyrabbit835 6 років тому +5

      They get us any way they can. We're still taking our damn shoes off.

    • @isaiahdobesh5109
      @isaiahdobesh5109 6 років тому +5

      LAD Fan name once the TSA stopped a major, credible threat

    • @christianbro2
      @christianbro2 5 років тому +5

      It's shameful to pay $5, which is probably more expensive than the fuel, when you have to wait around an hour to go through security with the unfriendly staff and stupid rules. Other countries, like pretty much the rest of the world, have less intrusive and faster security at a probably lower cost, and they don't get planes hijacked either.

  • @Random_Tank
    @Random_Tank 8 років тому +6

    I'm glad how you explained how flying isn't actually that expensive at the end of the video, and compared it to a car. It's actually cheaper AND FASTER for me to get a plane from London Heathrow to Manchester airport than it is to get a frikking train. Trains are expensive!

  • @HugeRademaker
    @HugeRademaker 5 років тому +48

    In Europe flying is the cheapest way of travelling.

  • @KunalKumar-cm3rj
    @KunalKumar-cm3rj 5 років тому

    Such a comprehensive video. Never thought it would turn out like this.

  • @AdamUPNow
    @AdamUPNow 8 років тому +5

    That is one smooth collab mention you guys did.

  • @minecraft29890
    @minecraft29890 8 років тому +53

    Can you please put Meters and Liters on the screen next?

    • @luisrosales9349
      @luisrosales9349 6 років тому +1

      Giann1 a liter is about .28 gallons. So a 1/4 of a gallon. Hope it helps.

  • @LUFCCitroen
    @LUFCCitroen 5 років тому

    This video was so informative a real eye opener great work

  • @hikaru-live
    @hikaru-live 6 років тому +3

    Addendum: other modes of transport also competes against airlines, especially high speed rail. It was norm to fly between Shanghai (SHA) and Beijing (PEK) for US$200 a few years ago, but since the opening of Beijing-Shanghai HSR and a US$90 economy class ticket price, airlines, even premium ones like China International or China Eastern, often have to fly this line at $50 or less to compete with the HSR.

  • @AviationNut
    @AviationNut 8 років тому +18

    Nice work man. Seems you really did your homework on this. I am definitely subscribing. Thanks for taking the time to research all this info.

  • @oddballsok
    @oddballsok 8 років тому +27

    if fuel expenses is relatively low ( 1:15) how come you claim that the use of winglets 8:05 was the most important cost saver and ticket price reducer of all improvements ?
    My bet is that it is company efficiency (and competition) and scaling that has reduced the costs.
    More planes in the air (per day) is reduced costs, reduced maintenance, reduced taxes per passenger ...
    But if anything goes up, it is the taxes and overhead.

    • @ypenburger
      @ypenburger 8 років тому

      +ODDBALL SOK exactly my thought

    • @icekk007
      @icekk007 8 років тому +2

      +ODDBALL SOK I think part of the answer is that the video assumes a 100% loaded plane. In practice, an airplane often is not full. Because of that, the fuel cost per passenger will increase.

    • @noiserrr
      @noiserrr 8 років тому +4

      well so will all the other expenses as well? if anything, the fuel would actually get cheaper with less passengers as it wouldn't waste as much fuel where as all the other costs are pretty independent of the number of passengers.

    • @noiserrr
      @noiserrr 8 років тому

      yeah exactly the reason is basically they've taken what they can from what the budget airlines are doing (charge for meals, duty free stuff, selfservice etc.) combined with lowering their profit margin.
      i guess it's only a matter of time before most non-budget airlines go out of business because there isn't room for much more improvement. lowering fuel costs, autonomous planes etc. obviously doesn't seem to cover more than 10% of the total cost. whereas budget airlines can keep expanding on the other 90%. also, tourists travel is going up and business travel is likely to go down eventually.

    • @drtyprior
      @drtyprior 8 років тому

      The other option is to reach for the high-end market. Lie-down seats, rooms, full service bars, and lounges. You charge more for the luxury.

  • @user-gw4mu3hl4r
    @user-gw4mu3hl4r 4 місяці тому

    Amazing video!!!! It was very interesting and well explained.💪💪💪

  • @nizroz
    @nizroz 6 років тому

    This channel is a gift to humanity. Thank You Wendover🙏🏻🌹

  • @TheCrimsonAtom
    @TheCrimsonAtom 7 років тому +201

    Miles and Galloons, I can't understand anything but its big numbers so I guess its okay

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 5 років тому +4

      So a gallon is bigger than a fluid ounce, and a mile is longer than seven American football feilds.

    • @digitalfootballer9032
      @digitalfootballer9032 4 роки тому +1

      @@kveeder3224 1 mile = 1760 yards. 7 American football fields = 700 yards, or 840 yards if you include end zones (which is then roughly the same as an international football pitch).

    • @kveeder3224
      @kveeder3224 4 роки тому

      @@digitalfootballer9032 I was making a joke. A mile is *longer* than 7 football fields, which is true, but misleading. That's why I also just said "a gallon is larger than a fluid ounce" instead of "128 fluid ounces in a gallon".

    • @unoriginal1086
      @unoriginal1086 4 роки тому

      @@digitalfootballer9032 Yards aren't metric either!!!!

    • @unoriginal1086
      @unoriginal1086 4 роки тому

      He just didn't understand it, and you don't need to be mean about it.

  • @macarows4014
    @macarows4014 8 років тому +12

    It would be very informative if you can make video about companies like WizzAir where we can get very cheap tickets.

    • @Wendoverproductions
      @Wendoverproductions  8 років тому +21

      +Ma Art May 24th, 2016, 10:30am gmt-4, this channel, it will appear ;)

    • @macarows4014
      @macarows4014 8 років тому +7

      +Wendoverproductions Well, you just got new subscriber :)

  • @brianworthington2050
    @brianworthington2050 5 років тому

    A very insightful presentation. Thank you.

  • @3ndru1
    @3ndru1 6 років тому

    Awesome!! Thank you so mocuh for such genius channel!!

  • @barbadolid5170
    @barbadolid5170 8 років тому +14

    It is expensive in the USA. In the vast majority of Europe it is very affordable, being quite often cheaper than bus or car (and always a huge lot cheaper than train)

    • @Ondrus21
      @Ondrus21 8 років тому

      +Gonzalo del Moral What is and what is not expensive always depends on income.

    • @SuperPSTutorials
      @SuperPSTutorials 8 років тому +1

      +Ondrus21 I recently travelled to north africa (morocco) and back from london for 50 bucks. So that's not really that much no matter how poor you are.

    • @Ondrus21
      @Ondrus21 8 років тому

      +SuperPSTutorials I live in the Czech Rep. My wage is little above 20,000 CZK which is around average here. Right now, one return ticket from Prague to Rome starts from 4,000 CZK (without baggage).

    • @barbadolid5170
      @barbadolid5170 8 років тому

      +Ondrus21 true. I'm Spanish and wages aren't good here either, but if you live in France (minimum wage around 1500 euro) or Germany (no minimum but average is quite good) flying across Europe is quite cheap. And comparing how prices have evolved through the last 15 years, now it seems a bargain compared to what we had

    • @Ondrus21
      @Ondrus21 8 років тому

      +Gonzalo del Moral I don't know about Spain, but I can say the best times to live in the Czech Rep. were some time during the 1990s. Less unemployed people, better conditions at work, higher living standard (wages/prices ratio) and much better freedom. I would return in time.

  • @grannytorrelli2560
    @grannytorrelli2560 8 років тому +19

    But, can you explain why college is so expensive in the United States?

    • @djkasdjkasdjdjdj
      @djkasdjkasdjdjdj 8 років тому

      +Granny Torrelli actually for the rest of the world, i wonder how where the expenses goes beside teachers, staff and chair & desks....................................

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 років тому

      Granny Torrelli
      Government subsidies drive the rise of tuition

  • @lytech777
    @lytech777 4 роки тому

    You are the best... always so informative

  • @hmdoggie
    @hmdoggie 7 років тому

    Great video. Nice breakdown of the operating cost of an airline.

  • @rdoetjes
    @rdoetjes 8 років тому +4

    I just flew across the atlantic. The two way flight cost me 860 dollars (I added luxury seats for another 300 dollars -- which is pure profit for the airline in comparison).
    The 860 dollars fly me 12000 kilometer. That is 0,072 cents a kilometer. That is far cheaper than my car or even public transport in the form of trains or busses can deliver.
    I think it's staggering how affordable flying is/has become.
    I often drive from Holland to The UK that costs me 1 tank of gas at say 56 dollars. It costs with a good deal 68 dollars on ferry costs. Then I have the wear on my car, the snacks you need to buy on the road (afterall door to door its 7-9 hours).
    So it will cost me easily 130 dollars/euros.
    A plane return ticket when booked in advance will cost me as low as 40 dollars. WIth airport taxes 80 dollars. And I am in London in around 3 hours (including waiting times and transfer times).
    What carriers do is amazing! And great value for money

    • @regularflurfy8174
      @regularflurfy8174 8 років тому +1

      +luke skywalker That's not what he's saying. He's just remarking at how cheap flying is now, compared to how much it was. He's not saying "oh, I could just drive my car across the ocean instead of flying", he's just using ground transportation for reference.

    • @rdoetjes
      @rdoetjes 8 років тому

      luke skywalker *facepalm* comprehensive reading is hard, hey?!
      It's just a reference showing how cheap air fair is compared to even driving. Even when I fly from Amsterdam to London (which I can totally drive and often do) flying is far cheaper.
      Even Amsterdam to Munich which we do a lot and there';s no need for a shuttle or a fairy and even then flying is cheaper. Which is insane! Seeing the overhead they have compared to just a car.
      Oh and Amsterdam New York by ship only takes 6 days!

    • @rdoetjes
      @rdoetjes 8 років тому

      +flurfmeister ah yeah the lovely autocorrect ;) then again it uses magical fairy dust to stay afloat ;)

  • @GoldenBeholden
    @GoldenBeholden 8 років тому +8

    I find it mildly concerning that someone subscribed (because how else are you so early) just to dislike.

  • @michaelswhitcomb
    @michaelswhitcomb 2 роки тому

    You did a crossover episode! Love both of your videos.

  • @filiphaas2638
    @filiphaas2638 5 років тому

    Nice to see how your chanel has developed

  • @Ihdc1
    @Ihdc1 7 років тому +4

    4:56 In my experience, large long haul planes are generally in in outwardly better shape than small short haul planes from a passenger's perspective. 747s and 777s are generally cleaner, and nicer looking inside than 737s, A320s, or smaller which tend (a lot of the time though not always) to have scuffed up or discolored interior panels, scratched up windows, leftover trash, or visible damage to the interior (seats, tray tables, et al) that they haven't gotten around to fixing. I feel like airlines generally take better care of their large widebodies vs their smaller narrowbodies.

  • @antonybooth3293
    @antonybooth3293 8 років тому +6

    A 10 minute song and dance to say "Lack of competition".

    • @mountnman3609
      @mountnman3609 8 років тому

      +Antony Booth Actually, lack of competition was back in the days before deregulation. Though there were more airlines, they didn't have to compete by dropping prices. All prices were mandated by the government...and a lot more expensive than they are today.

  • @coreyjordan2745
    @coreyjordan2745 5 років тому

    This is so cool. Thank you so much for posting and displaying this topic. I love to travel. One of my goals in life is become an world traveler. Very educational video. again thanks .

  • @pauulthefair
    @pauulthefair 6 років тому

    Thanks for KSP advice at the end!!!!

  • @austinwachukwu
    @austinwachukwu 7 років тому +12

    1:00 "That's amazing..!"
    LMAO this guy sounds like Tina from Bob's Burgers
    Great video though haha

    • @fadjan9998
      @fadjan9998 4 роки тому

      Austin Nwachukwu You’re right

  • @CoolPizza07
    @CoolPizza07 4 роки тому +7

    Why flying is so expensive. Ryanair: am I a joke to you?

  • @captkirk1us
    @captkirk1us 5 років тому

    It's why we travel. It's fascinating, you meet so many people, experience so many observations, great food, breathtaking sites, etc

  • @sirboblightbulbmcdlix1796
    @sirboblightbulbmcdlix1796 6 років тому

    ur aviation vids are really great.

  • @SomeRandoooo
    @SomeRandoooo 8 років тому +6

    Can't forget about how airlines get you there much quicker, whereas in a car, you might need to get a hotel or two depending on the distance you're driving.

  • @kicapanmanis1060
    @kicapanmanis1060 4 роки тому +8

    2016: Calls the other person Real Engineering.
    2019: Calls the other person That Weird Irish Engineering Guy. 🤣
    (it was during one of the Nebula promotions)

  • @hero-hf5pu
    @hero-hf5pu 11 днів тому

    Fantastic video man

  • @anna_in_aotearoa3166
    @anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 роки тому

    Really interesting analysis! Particularly surprising to see to how of the total cost for travellers is a mélange of miscellaneous taxes - wasn't aware of a lot of those.

  • @drac124
    @drac124 8 років тому +73

    This channel is awesome!
    And flying is truly not expensive. Train trips are more expensive.

    • @raysson1
      @raysson1 8 років тому +11

      Train journeys are much more environmental-friendly over the same distance though.
      Also you have to take into account that in countries with a well-developed rail and train system (e.g. Germany) train journeys are actually cheaper than plane flights.

    • @drac124
      @drac124 8 років тому +2

      +Gempowerment I can assure you they are not. I lived in Germany and train trips are very expensive. Planes are extremely cheap in europe. I love trains and when I made a trip to europe I had to go by plane because of the cost and the time. Imagine, if you live in the US and you pay 333 dollars to cross the entire country which is the size of europe. You can go about anywhere in europe with 100 euros by plane.

    • @raysson1
      @raysson1 8 років тому

      Douglas I currently live in Germany and train is usually cheaper, at least within the country (Berlin - Munich for example). Of course train journeys take longer but the ecological effect makes up for it imo

    • @drac124
      @drac124 8 років тому +4

      +Gempowerment Trains are better than planes in everything. Comfort, facility to go in and out, not horrible smell like airports, look better, feel better and yes, its much better for environment. But they are expensive. If for you is different that is great. In my experience and also friends that I know, usually go by plane due to cost. Competition on air travel is a lot higher than trains as well.

    • @lucianoradice5257
      @lucianoradice5257 8 років тому +1

      +Douglas i love trains im travelling to Europe and im trying to replace the plane for the train, and i discovered its cheaper because although plane fees may be cheaper, you have to take two taxis from the city to the airport and from the airport to the city and taxis are not cheap at all. The train instead departures drom a station near the city center and arrives to a ststion near the city center, you save a lot of money in taxis or remises.

  • @crymetyme320
    @crymetyme320 8 років тому +5

    I may have missed it, but I think you forgot the passenger facility charge (PFC) that airports collect from airlines. The PFC rate per passenger as of today is $4.50

  • @HolySoliDeoGloria
    @HolySoliDeoGloria 3 роки тому +1

    Great analysis of the fuel cost per passenger. Also, the airlines carry mail and cargo for people other than their passengers, so the cost per total value of transport is even lower.

  • @nivaldo758
    @nivaldo758 2 місяці тому +2

    On the profits of the airlines, you forgot to add the luggage, seat selection, snacks, and more.

  • @ranirao6535
    @ranirao6535 7 років тому +53

    I'm still a kid and from you I learn a lot of stuff. Thanks😊😊😊

  • @Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm
    @Matmamtmamtmamtmamtm 8 років тому +17

    You mean GPU rental. APU is part of the aircraft.

  • @oceanwonders
    @oceanwonders 7 років тому +1

    I'd also add that the airline may not pay cash for an airplane. Large corps usually finance capital expenditures with loans. So you'd have to add interest payments on those plane purchases as well.

  • @santoshadhikari1978
    @santoshadhikari1978 5 років тому

    Great man Awesome just watching for the first time after ad but i just loved it Great stuff look to see more like this 👍👍👍

  • @UNNAM3D82
    @UNNAM3D82 8 років тому +21

    Who ever said flying was expensive? It's usually by far the cheapest option to travel, at least longer distances.

    • @MoonAttire
      @MoonAttire 8 років тому +15

      without all things considered it at first glance looks very expensive!!!!

    • @Petra44YT
      @Petra44YT 8 років тому +1

      +PoisonHeadcrab It is. I routinely used to compare the prices of the train and the two airlines available for domestic flights. Now, I don't bother with the train any more and just book a flight.

    • @johnrichards7847
      @johnrichards7847 8 років тому

      go from uk to usa then look at good hotel 2 week prices its adds up!

    • @MoonLiteNite
      @MoonLiteNite 7 років тому +1

      Same people who say the world is more danagerous and deadly than ever before

  • @EveryTipeOfVideo
    @EveryTipeOfVideo 6 років тому +82

    I just bought a Ryanair ticket for £17.36...

    • @chargestone96
      @chargestone96 5 років тому +6

      yeah and they can easily go to 10, he listed buckets in taxes so thats the problem

    • @benbielenberg853
      @benbielenberg853 5 років тому +7

      Id say the EU helps us achieve that

    • @SweetCake8
      @SweetCake8 5 років тому +10

      @Rusty Shackleford sounds alright to me

    • @lukeisafluke
      @lukeisafluke 4 роки тому

      brace for landing

    • @xiongjing1885
      @xiongjing1885 4 роки тому

      He has made a video about that. It is how budget airline works

  • @carterconnell81
    @carterconnell81 Рік тому

    I can’t believe they used the Denver-Gunnison route as an example! I’ve flown that route several times to spend time at my family’s cabin in the summer. Apparently they were paying a lot to fly me there. . .

  • @tuggyboat
    @tuggyboat 7 років тому

    3:19 N07 (Lincoln Park Airport) Where i got my license! Amazing it showed up in the video!

  • @tejasai4824
    @tejasai4824 8 років тому +4

    Awsome explanation.. Keep it up.. Can you do same type of video on Uber fair?

    • @KeithDeal
      @KeithDeal 8 років тому +1

      Uber fairs are all based on demand

  • @spacemanjoe7074
    @spacemanjoe7074 7 років тому +8

    Thank you for having the courage for doing all of this math on UA-cam: the place where all of the internet critics are.

  • @relevant3329
    @relevant3329 5 років тому

    Good work mate

  • @ijustfelldown
    @ijustfelldown 3 роки тому

    I love these collabs. Any chance of you doing a joint video with Half as Interesting?