Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Comic Adaptation - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубліковано 27 лют 2024
- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the comic adaptation of the second Star Wars movie!
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Originally released February 28th, 2024
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: The Empire Strikes Back! ...At least, that's what the narration is telling us it did.
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Why can't Obi Wan forgive Qui-Gon after all these years?
Just let Qui-Gons be bygones.
Good one
😂
There's an alternate universe where Star Detours actually came out, and you know we would see Qui-Gon say that to Obi-wan at some point, and you'd know from Obi-wan's reaction that wasn't the first time he made that pun.
Oh if only.
@@Azure_Fire "At least it was still better than 'The negotiations WERE short.'"
Linkara: "I'm looking for a great Jedi."
Fat Grandma Yoda: "Your mouth you hush up. Eat my Flapjacks you will."
Point of note, my understanding is that of all people Carrie Fisher apparently did a bunch of dialog rewrites for this movie more or less on set, punching the dialog up and making it a lot better. She was entirely uncredited for it, seemingly she was okay with that.
This may explain why a lot of the dialog is different, what we see here might be closer to the original text. Turns out George Lucas was always pretty bad at writing dialog, he just had someone who wasn't nearby to cover for him in this case. Also Carrie was not one to mince words and almost certainly more than willing to walk up to George and say "Shut up and get me a pen." *Writes furiously* "We're saying THAT now!"
That is true. And Lucas wasn't even the one who wrote most of Empire Strikes Back to begin with. Or direct it.
But I think I read Fisher also did that for Phantom Menace and that suffered in the dialogue department
Carrie Fisher was a very well respected and in demand Hollywood script doctor, especially working on female characters [working on films like 'Sister Act' and 'Lethal Weapon 3'].
@@skibot9974 Lucas at one point was keen to involve her but ultimately, for whatever reason, she didn't work on Phantom Menace.
Okay, weird fact about myself and Empire.
When i was a kid, I watched the original version. And because of a combination of how I heard a particular line and I guess the voice and effects... I thought Boba Fett was Darth Vader's son.
When Boba says the line "He's no good to me dead" I thought he said "He's no good to me, Dad."
Boy, watching Attack of the Clones must've been REALLY confusing for little you, huh?
Not quite the same thing, but this idea reminds me of an old fanzine article (post-Empire, but pre-Return) I once read on the Internet. The author theorized that "Boba" Fett was actually short for "Roberta," and was going to be revealed as Luke's mother. Which would certainly have added an… _interesting_ angle to the scene where Fett tells Vader "as you wish."
I can't seem to find this article now, sadly, as I really wish I could share the full thing. That wasn't even the most out-there theory in it…
@@DGilVidsThen again, they only changed the line to "he's no good to me dead" _after_ the release of Attack of the Clones
@@rassilontdavros3004 "what if Boba Fett was Luke's mother" would make for a neat comic.
ADDITIONAL NOTE: My justification as a kid was "they both wear armor heavy suits with helmets and are bad guys. Therefore, they're related." Oh to be young.
Vader keeps calling people Admiral Ozol so that when he kills them he doesn't have to fill out a new incident report and can instead use a form letter
It helps with the tax reports for the empire
I can't help but think that if this episode was done about a decade ago, over the end credits, Weird Al's "Yoda" would be playing...
Most likely, yeah.
Linkara: the force is an asshole.
Darth Traya: I like the way you think.
Basically that's Knights of the Old Republic II in a nutshell.
OK, either SF Debris or Linkara needs to review that one. Either one's fine 'cause it's a damn good story and would love to see their thoughts.
"If this is the will of The Force, The Force is an asshole." Yep. Always has been...
I'm suddenly reminded of YGOTAS S4: "Apparently the Heart of the Cards is a giant dick this season."
Darth Traya is probably laughing from whatever afterlife Sith Lords go to right now.
@@mikegates8993
Apparently according to Yoda at least, the sith dwell in the netherworld of the force. Also known as the vary darkness that makes up the dark side of the force
Linkara: We truly open with-
Book: SOLAR FLARE!
Why did I see 2 flies fucking
Got the reference. Nice one!
And the book forgets to follow up with a Kienzan, too.
In interviews, Mark Hamill downplays the injuries he sustained to his face, stating that the Wampa attack was always in the script. I don't know, maybe he's just trying to...save face? (Dun-dun-tsst!)
He was trying to go by the _hand_ of the author?
Batman: You killed my father!!
OneFace: No Bruce, I AM YOUR FATHER.........'S ATTORNEY!!
Batman: No! Its not TRUE!! ITS IMPOSSIBLE!!! NNOOOOOOOOO!!
With the constant retcons of Batman's history, I don't doubt that'll be a thing in the future.
Oneface: Search your feelings you know it must be true.
@@TeamGhostRyderINC Batman: NOOOOO!!
Rock and Roll: And I am your Father ....'S Acountant.
VHS tapes: and I am your father…..’s old coworker.
I have to say, Linkara’s always been talented with his impersonations of certain characters, like with Mark Hamill’s Joker voice, but both his Darth Vader voice and his Yoda voice for this review were particularly impressive.
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Fun fact, in the Star Wars video game Shadows of The Empire, you also find a room in the Hoth Rebel Base with a wampa that you can sic on snowtroopers.
You may still end up having to shoot it down yourself, it was in a room filled with power ups if I remember right.
Damn, the wampas scared me as a kid!
The Sega-produced Star Wars Trilogy Arcade also features entering a room with a torn sign to encounter a bunch of wampas in Echo Base - since that game was made in the wake of the Special Editions; maybe there were plans to re-add those scenes?
I remember playing the Original Trilogy Arcade game and there's a stage where you have to escape Echo Base and you encounter Wampas. I do recall it spawns weird numbers and symbols as you shoot at it.
Stan Lee Presents Star Wars!
Peter Parker: HEY REMEMBER THAT OLD MOVIE?
So is the now star wars universe cannon to MCU or the future of it
@@genesismultiverse4896 it takes place _before_ the MCU... a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away from the MCU
Rhodey: "Jesus, Tony, how old is this guy?" "Tony: "I didn't carbon-date him, if that's what you mean."
Considering how small Yoda was in these comics. I wonder is was also bothered by seagulls.
"Stop it now!"
@@joeberryman3563 "It, now stop!"
Funny thing, Lucas adding an over-the-top yell for Luke falling in the Special Edition? That actually happened. In the 1997 edition, Lucas decided to have Luke scream and for whatever reason, he used the scream Palpatine made as he fell to his death at the end of ROTJ. It was so goofy, it was one of the few changes Lucas actually walked back on for future re-releases.
Not every force sensitive person is a Jedi or Sith, but every Jedi and Sith are force sensitive.
What about if they lose their powers? Is Jedi still a Jedi? I just remember Mara Jade losing her connection to the force in one book.
@@RabbitShirak Yes, a Jedi is still a Jedi. The only thing I can think of that's close to what you're saying is Luke losing his powers in Heir to the Empire. The planet he was on had predators that hunted through the Force, so the prey animals evolved a Force nullifying shield that blanketed the forest he was in.
@@Azure_FireI don't remember the book's name I'm afraid. In the story Luke tries to help Mara Jade to find her Force-connection. They (in a way) find a solution but Mara is horrified of it, while Luke feels more optimistic.
@@RabbitShirak that sounds interesting. I hope someone knows the title !
@@RabbitShirak I could be wrong--I haven't read these books yet--you might be thinking of Callista. Computer ghosts, a superweapon for every day of the week, Crix Madine got shot...it was a whole thing.
If i had to come up with an alternate interpretation to the "he is our only hope" part it would be this:
Obi-Wan's viewpoint is what you mentioned about regarding Luke's potential as a Jedi with the bloodline and powers, etc. he thinks that this will be what allows Luke to have the strength and skill needed to destroy Vader and Palpatine...
BUT, the true meaning of Luke being the last Hope is that he is the last hope for Anakin to redeem himself.
Ashoka tried to reach Anakin and failed, Obi-Wan twice reached out and failed, Luke IS the last hope because him and by extension Leia are the last connection he has to Padme, it's Anakin's love for her and for his children that broke the dark side and Palpatine's hold over him and allowed for him to atone for his atrocities by sacrificing himself to kill Palpatine and free the galaxy of the evil he helped bring into.
and this is why Luke is special and why it's, imo, okay for other jedi to exist, because none of them, not Ashoka, not Ezra, not Grogu, or whoever has the connection with Anakin the way Luke does.
Love is what redeemed Vader and it was Luke's unyielding belief that his father could be turned that helped remind Anakin of how, a long time ago, the woman he loved held that same unyielding love for him only this time Anakin made the right choice and in doing so saved the galaxy rather than dooming it.
I've seen this interpretation before and in general? Let me say it's a beautiful one that plays into the themes of Star Wars and provides this real meaningful connection that properly reconciles the inclusion of EU elements.
That being said. It is shot in the foot by one thing. Return of the Jedi's whole existence. In that film, Obi-Wan and Yoda make it explicitly clear the idea for Luke is to kill Vader and that by him being the last hope? They mean he's the last hope to restore balance by ending Vader and the Emperor and restoring peace to the galaxy and with the existence of more Jedi? There's the question of why in the hell if they're in such deep poodoo they're not going out of their way to contact other Jedi? I mean according to the show Obi-Wan Kenobi, even Kenobi's aware of a whole network of Jedi who survived after the war, if anything this is the time to start maybe calling for favors.
I'd like to think that Carrie Fisher was so coked out of her mind she didn't even remember doing the holiday special at all.
Like, "Whoa! I really did that shit?!"
I think that's rl canon, iirc
30:55 Linkara’s bit about Star Wars holograms being crappy is made funnier when you realize he mis-read the line. It says “flickers silently” not “slightly”. Good entry for the end of year Top 15 Screw Ups.
0:14 actually Star Wars’ first outing would be the novelization of A New Hope by Alan Dean Foster.
A New Hope was meant to release in November of 1976 but production issues delayed the film by six months, however the novelization released on time. My father for years thought Star Wars was based on a book because of that release discrepancy
The first edition of the novelization also contains some interesting discrepancies compared to later developments. For example it describes The Emperor as a feeble powerless old man who is used as a puppet by Vader and other high ranking officials. A far cry from the Palpatine we know today
Ah, good old cannon discrepancies or different interpretations. Though I always can hand wave some of these discrepancies with it being just how some people in universe viewed these things
I think I actually have that book!
Fun fact: Due to production lead time, Marvel initially based Yoda's design on some concept art given to them while the movie was still in preproduction. After learning that the design had been changed, Marvel managed to redo the comic's art for the monthly issues, but it was too late to change the graphic novel collection of the adaptation released at the same time so that still featured Yoda in his early concept look.
I think Linkara's missing something about Luke being "the only hope." Luke isn't important because he's powerful, or because he can do amazing things other Jedi can't. They tried relying on being a great warrior with Anakin, and it only made things worse. In Return of the Jedi, Luke *doesn't* defeat Palpatine by being stronger than him. He doesn't defeat Palpatine at all, Vader does. Because what Luke has, what Obi-Wan and Cal Kestis and Kanan Jarrus and Ezra Bridger and Quinlan Vos and even Ahsoka Tano don't have... is that he Anakin and Padme's _son._ So, for Vader, seeing the last remnant of the love he had for Padme suffering at the hands of the Empire is what it takes to turn him against Palpatine once and for all. Love, conquering hate.
Luke was never special because he was a Jedi. Anyone can be a Jedi. Luke was special because he was the son of a man who needed to be offered a path back to the light by someone he couldn't help but love unconditionally.
Yeah, except the problem is Obi-Wan is pretty explicit that he intends Luke to kill Vader. He thinks Anakin is gone and can't be redeemed.
@@AT4W
Well to be fair, considering Revenge of the sith & the Kenobi show, Obi-Wan tried TWICE and failed to reach Anakin. So I always interpreted it as Ghost Kenobi being like: "Hey, don't solely rely on reaching him. Since he has been a sith lord for years, so if push comes to shove, kill him if worse comes to worse." This was especially shown with his line: "he's more machine now than man, twisted & evil!" So Kenobi probably sees killing him as a mercy type of kill. Which is true if you know how much pain, Anakin/Vader is in with the suit. Always in a state of pain, thus giving him anger, thus always powered in the dark side of the force
All of that sounds sweet and cool, right up until you actually watch the actual movies sometime. Obi Wan wanted Luke to kill Vader. Luke explicitly went against Obi Wan.
Other Jedi surviving is bad, further proof the Expanded Universe can and should be ignored as much as possible.
@kingofthegundam7974
Yeah, like I said, Luke went against Obi-Wan since he could sense the good inside Darth Vader & knew he could be redeemed. Hell, Luke even says as much when he gets caught & sees Vader again. Also, he explained to Kenobi that he couldn't just kill his dad cold bloodedly.
@@AT4WObi-Wans's intentions do not necessarily reflect the will of the Force. Obi-Wan was an incredible Jedi but he was still biased by his own experiences. He may have had an innate understanding of Luke being the one to do it, but had the wrong idea of why. Obi-Wan had tried to redeem Anakin, which was a lost cause right out of the gate because Anakin blamed him for much of the pain in his life. This miscolored Obi-Wan's perspective on the situation.
The “terrorists that destroyed a job creator” joke gave me flashbacks to all those people who defend the Galactic Empire 💀
My go to is Russian Badger: "Yeah the Empire blew up Alderaan...but on the plus side Alderaan's unemployment rate is now zero."
@@Azure_Fire unfortunately I didn’t mean the people doing it as a joke
@@Cdr2002 I did understand that...I just love that Russianbadger video so much
@@Azure_Fire fair enough
Blame Clerks.
7:40. So Leia was high on Spice during the Holiday Special? Makes sense she has lost her home planet and family.
Now I'm imagining a Star Wars version of "Snowbirds Don't Fly"
Also, that ice cream maker is no doubt an extremely valuable heirloom.
Someone needs to patreon Linkara to go over Rise of Skywalker once he finishes the Return of the Jedi comic just for the sake of completing the movie line up
I hope but does the movie has a comic adaptation ?
@@alexandrebirk1948
I think it does, maybe?
@@thatonea-hole this is what I found:
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Adaptation was a planned comic miniseries adaptation of the film of the same name. The series was to be written by Jody Houser, illustrated by Will Sliney, and published by Marvel Comics. The first issue was originally scheduled to be released in June 2020. Houser, noting that she had been a lifelong Star Wars fan, said it was an honor to be asked to write the comic, and stated that the comic would include scenes and material that was absent from the movie.[1]
On April 1, 2020, Marvel Comics was forced to stall their publishing line due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[3] Eventually, Marvel announced they would resume their publishing line on May 27 of that year but did not announce a new release date for any of this series' postponed issues.[4] On May 4, 2023, cover artist Phil Noto shared textless covers he had drawn for the series.[5]
@@thatonea-holeIt does sadly
@@TheBandit025Nova Odd. I heard a comic adaptation was planned but got canceled because of covid.
I had to laugh at the joke about snow being so much better than sand was followed up by an ad for Dune.
To answer the disintegration question while we don’t see it in the movies, we do see it in the Mandalorian.
Mando’s pronged rifle is a Disruptor, essentially a blaster that turns whatever it hits into dust. He uses it on some Jawas in the first season, and all that’s left after they get hit is their cloaks. I also think a Disruptor appears in one of the cartoons, but I can’t remember which off the top of my head.
Also Im not sure if their named after Disruptors from Star Trek or if the name is just a massive coincidence
A different but functionally the same type of disintegration rifle appears in a video game and in Star Wars Rebels. Said rifle was used on Zebbs people.
A Disruptor Rifle also appears in Jedi Outcast, and the first Nar Shadda level gives me so much anxiety because of those damn things.
@@SirDanFilmsUnltddamn it I was going to say that as well.
An additional note on the "I know" line from Han, dunno if you know about this or not but since you didn't mention it - the original scripted line (by Lucas, of course) was indeed Han replying "I love you too", but the director and Harrison Ford both agreed it didn't sound right for Han to say such a sappy line, so they did multiple takes with the director encouraging him to ab-lib something. The set was hot, uncomfortable, and the shoot was going long, so a frustrated Ford said the next one would be the last one he did, and that was the "I know" line. During editing George Lucas was upset they wanted to go with that line, but the director and Ford fought for it and it got a massively positive response from test audiences.
And in typing this out I'm reminded of what I've said to friends in the past - the more I hear about the original trilogy, sometimes I feel like Star Wars was a success *in spite* of George Lucas' involvement, not because of it.
George Lucas is actually a very good director and writer in general. He just sucks at dialog. The problems arise when he's not questioned and either doesn't willingly let someone else take over in spots he isn't at his best, or just never is told it's not great.
My opinion is that Star Wars needed Lucas to be what it was. But the original trilogy are as good as they are because they also had people around who could and would tell him when an idea was stupid or a line didn't work or a scene needed tweaking. Most of the problems of the prequels come from getting almost unfiltered Lucas, which is sometimes gold and sometimes very much not. Meanwhile the absence of his approach to the series is very noticeable in the Disney stuff. There's still good stuff in there but it doesn't feel the same. It doesn't quite have the magic.
Well it's around midnight. Sleep is overrated. Let's watch this video.
I with you Shadow ... Let's listen and get some rest buddy
Hahahaha LOSERS! ITS 5:45am(what timing) and I have yet to sleep and am starting the vid now!
But really, I feel y'all on the insomnia. I hope good sleep finds you and allows you to rest and recharge. Best wishes and feelings for you all, my fellow Night Owls
People HATED Empire?
Wow, so it really is a never ending cycle of fans hating then learning to love this franchise...
The only OT hate I've heard about was the Ewoks. Probably because of the 2 movies and cartoon that came afterwards.
If that were true, the sequels would have been forgiven by now. They aren't because they were just that bad.
@@bluehero-96I am pretty sure in the long run people will look on the sequels more fondly. Hell they still have plenty of fans even now, said fans will just become more vocal as years go on.
Besides, the prequels becoming less hated did not happen until like a little over 10 years after they ended.
No they didn't. That something people made up. Empire was received incredibly positively when it came out
People didn't like the cliffhanger ending and some critics weren't too keen on it either, here's the NY Times from 1980: “The Empire Strikes Back is not a truly terrible movie. It's a nice movie. It's not, by any means, as nice as Star Wars"
Vader: You know, in retrospect, maybe we should have put a tracker in the Falcon like we did the last time. It worked out great then! Well, not the Death Star getting blown up, but the original plan worked fine.
Also, there are like 8 Robot Chicken sketches my brain went to while watching this episode. Surprised they didn't get a cutaway or two.
Linkara is kinda like the force. He brings us nerds together.
Except the whining about later movies, but of course that's standard these days.
Ngl that Yoda monologue still hits hard whether it's Frank Oz or Lewis delivering it.
Never forget the universe where Yoda used the Death Star as a meteor against Palpatine.
Fun fact the Novelization of The Empire strikes back actually came out 2 months before the movie and had the father reveal in it.
But, even though the book was a best seller, nobody read the book because people still had the mentality that the movie was this big thing they'd only get to experience once and the book would be the thing to read to relive the memories of that movie.
It's interesting how home video changed people's mentality.
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We have indeed! In The Mandalorian S1, we see Din Djarin use his blaster with the tuning fork looking thing at the end disintegrate a whole Jawa.
Add it to the new growing list of missed opportunities
Din is my kind of man kills Jawas I do that when i play Jedi Knight Jedi Academy and Lego Star Wars II or Complete Saga
Huh, so that's why in the Shadow's of the Empire video game on the Hoth base level you find a room full of wampas.
27:08 I need that fan comic in my life, Yoda pulling the ship out of the bog and the two traveling to Applebee's, Luke absolutely irritated as they spend time feasting on a meal and all he wants to do is figure out the deal with this weird green goblin man.
Damn Linkara's voice impressions are pretty damn good, particularly Yoda and Han
My Han can use a little work IMHO, but I'm proud of my Gremlin Yoda voice. =)
I wonder how many Tauntauns he had to interbreed to finally end up with a Purple one! That's almost as rare as Gold Tauntauns!
Now, I just want to see if a Tauntaun can evolve like a Pokémon
That bit at the beginning where you get mad at Rise of Skywalker made me remember a bit of trivia for Revenge of the Sith.
George Lucas had an early draft where Palpatine would reveal that he used the force to create Anakin (which the Darth Plagueis story would have foreshadowed) and thus was his ‘father’ but Lucas removed it because he thought it was a cheap rehash of the Original Trilogy’s twist.
Now imagine the Reylo kiss with this knowledge in mind.
I mean that's not the first time members of the skywalker family kissed each other
They also directly imply this connection in the canon Darth Vader comics from the last few years.
33:38 The way I interpret it is that Luke isn’t the last hope because of any special powers he has but rather the emotional connection he has to Vader is the only thing that could give him the advantage he’d need against him where other Jedi wouldn’t have it
SAME!
Which is further supported with what happens in return of the jedi, especially with Luke using their family connection to turn his father back to the light.
Vader would hesitate to kill his son, unlike the others I guess?
Not showing Luke's hand getting cut off feels like it might have been a matter of censorship.
With the ice around Luke's legs. I always assumed the wampa just spit on the legs of Luke and low temperature made it freeze and it acted like a glue
Same, that or the Wampa was able to stick in the snow ❄️ and the low temperature 🌡 put ice over his feet
"search your feelings youngster" is kind of hilarious to imagine Darth Vader saying
It's late at night, I'm quite literally sick and tired...
but i've still got time to watch an hour long video about a comic i've never read based on a movie i'm kinda ambivalent towards
20:30 To answer a question that should not be answered... there really isn't. Snowtroopers are just the alternate name for Stormtroopers. They're basically just Stormtroopers but more bundled... though I now have the image in my head of Palpatine being the only one who cares about the exact name schemes being annoyed at everyone not saying the correct name.
To be more specific, the snowtroopers on hoth are elites from the 501st legion, so I’m almost certain that they’re just stormtroopers dressed in snowtrooper armor and gear for a single battle. The 501st follow Vader everywhere and adapt to their missions. It’s only on permanent imperial bases located on cold worlds that there would be a dedicated garrison of snowtroopers.
@ricleblanc-seguin4514 Or in other words, they're Stormtroopers in cold weather gear which are what Snowtroopers are. There really isn't a big deep explanation for the distinction, that's just kind of what it always has been.
@@marc-ericleblanc-seguin4514 These snow troopers are. But I doubt the 501st have the only snow troopers in the Imperial army used for offense.
Geez, making the hand getting cut off happen offpanel and 'I am your father' being relegated to a normal panel is giving me flashbacks to the Wrath of Khan comic making the Khan yell a single tiny panel.
_"HOW DO YOU SCREW THIS UP!?"_
At least this one has the excuse of being made alongside the movie, instead of Wrath of Khan that had years of hindsight to work off of.
The other former Jed survivors didn't have the power to beat the Emperor and the Vader I mean Yoda lost to the Emperor, but more importantly even though it's not what Obi-Wan wanted anyone but Anakin's child would have not have been able to bring him back to the dark... not Ahsoka or Obi-wan who reminded him of his past, had to be someone who represented his future. I think for Obi-Wan and Yoda they were counting on Luke's midichlorian count, but it was the family bond on a more human level that was important.
Yeah, though bear in mind that they had no intention of having Luke turn him. They were very explicit in these movies that they wanted Luke to kill Vader - not redeem him.
@@AT4W
Well from their perspective or like Kenobi says: "point of view". They see Vader for what he has become, a sith lord too far gone, a twisted mangle of what remains of himself & the machine that keeps him alive. Luke sees beyond that, HIS FATHER, a man who has been for all tense and purposes, A SLAVE for years. A slave to the emperor, a slave to his inner-darkness. Luke sees the possibility of his redemption, especially with Luke pointing out to his father when he turns himself in return of the jedi, Vader could have killed him at any point during their fight in Empire.
@@thatonea-hole You're missing the part where OBI WAN DID NOT INTEND FOR LUKE TO REDEEM VADER, so the Last Hope line doesn't make sense from that angle. It was shot in the foot. Ignore the EU.
@@AT4WThat's what I mean. Yoda and Obi-Wan were banking on his good force genes to let him kill Vader. But his specialness came from Anakin''s paternal instincts.
That's why I think it actually kinda subverts the divine right thing, because Jedi and Sith a like both looked at the power as the most important thing. I also don't have a problem with Yoda using a lightsaber for the same reason, he says he's above a might makes right philosophy, but in the end he still can't envision another solution.
And for that same reason I have no problem with a couple 100 Jedi (mere percentage points of the original order) surviving. They lacked the power to be candidates in Yoda and Obi-wan's mind, but they also lacked the ability to reach Anakin.
As for not showing Luke's hand getting cut off, I don't know if The Comics Code Authority was still active at the time these were released but there could've been some kind of rule preventing such acts of body mutilation/body part severing from being out rite shown and depicted.
Haha 😂 linkara thanks for making me laugh for a good bit, imagining Darth Vader making a snowman with the snow-troopers on hoth, as snow is the "polar" opposite of sand 😂 ☃️ great review 👍
*Luke Skywalker in the healing tank*
Luke: (thinking) *Heh heh, the bubbles tickle... Heh heh, ow...! It hurts to laugh... Heh heh, ow...! Heh heh, ow...! Heh heh, ow...!*
Obi-Wan: *Luke! Luke, are you there?*
Luke: (thinking) *Oh, hey, Obi-Wan. I'm in a healing pod.*
Luke's just absorbing all the healing juices.
I had no idea Star Wars empire strikes back even had comic adaptation.
I know I'm a nitpicker but Yeah, Tauntauns might not be nocturnally adapted to their environment and might seek natural shelters during nighttime or huddle together in groups like mammoths did, so it is perfectly capable for a lone tauntaun to die of exhaustion and low temperature at nighttime. That, and Han is wearing special clothes that might provide better insulation than the tauntaun's own fur.
And worst of all: Vader isn't GREEN in this comic.
Also I just now noticed that you have a model of what looks like the space fighter from the Descent games on your shelf. Neat.
36:35 My interpretation is that it’s more a mindset thing the there is no try means you either do it or you don’t and it’s a matter of believing you will do something
Trying carries the expectation of failure which does muddy a Jedis potential with the force. Where as a Jedi that believes they will lift the x wing will do it.
Whats funny is that in TCW Dooku says a paraphrased version to his apprentice Savage Opress that sums it up completely (The task is only impossible because you’ve deemed it so)
I do think that's understood and it was more of a joke being made at the expense of the line.
4:41 FTR its the opening crawl from the first draft of ESB and, yes, it was going to originally be against a white or ice blue background.
20:37 All Snowtroopers are Stormtroopers, not all Stormtroopers are Snowtroopers. They're just Stormtroopers with specialized training and equipment, like most Stormtrooper varients.
While using Ian as Palpatine for the special edition is fun, George Lucas just couldn't leave well enough. Even after replacing the Emperor he kept going back and changing the dialogue. The addition of Palpatine telling Vader Luke is the son of Anakin Skywalker, and the implication that Vader didn't know that breaks the movie. Vader's motivation only works if he knows who Luke is from the start. EU material both Legends and Disney have tended to go with the original version of the scene over the final Lucas special edition version.
I mean, TO BE FAIR, I always interpreted it as far as the Emperor knew Vader didn't know about his chidren. While in reality, Vader already knew, so he just played dumb to keep up the Emperor's ego of knowing all.
@@thatonea-hole That interpretation works in the Legends continuity...but definitely not in Disney's canon, where Vader learns shortly after a New Hope and calls the Emperor with barely controlled rage. And the Emperor tells him to back the f up. So clearly the Emperor knows that Vader knows.
I'm not saying it matters because you could simply look at the universe as only being the movies, just thought it was a fun bit of trivia.
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Eh, even then, the emperor could have the suspicion of him possibly knowing, but to the emperor, he probably thought vader was mad about his position in the empire at that time. What with what Vader says to him in that moment: "I am angry, but you would not want it otherwise. It was my anger that brought me to you. I want you to know that I WILL NOT FAIL. And I understand US precisely." So, from what the Emperor's perspective, Vader called & told him about how he wouldn't fail him & knows where he is in their relationship of master & apprentice. Along with the pecking order of the empire. Plus, the emperor/empire was too busy to notice/know if Vader knew or not.
Namely, all the stuff that entailed after the destruction of the death star. The emperor having people keep an eye on Vader, him trying to replace vader during that time & all the other stuff in the Disney/Marvel Vader comics stuff
You'd think that Vader would've suspected that they were related anyway since Luke's lastname is Skywalker.
Can I just say that I love your Yoda impression. Not just when you’re doing a joke but also when you’re reading his speech bubbles. The inflections and pauses are dead on
I love that scene in SG1 that you reference around 18 minutes in, great bit of worldbuilding and the characters understanding the setting that they're in.
I think the thing with the lightsaber training on Dagobah is because it's specifically testing Luke's impatience to become the view he has of the Jedi; Warriors that can use the force, rather than what it truly means to be a jedi
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One of my favorite bits of useless Star Trek trivia is that one of the regularly reused props on the original series was this pair of Danish salt shakers that were just painted silver and used as Bones' medical instruments, Scotty's engineering tools, and I think actual salt shakers at one point, funnily enough.
Also, I think it's hilarious that the cool future science stuff that Bones and Scotty were doing was just them waving salt shakers with futuristic "bwoooo" noises added.
According to the issues that came out after the A New Hope storyline, Han was robbed of his reward money by a pirate. While Marvel Star Wars' continuity with the rest of Legends has always been questionable, this particular story was later referenced by a more official story in 2013.
Yes I will be giving you Legends lore as I watch this video.
One thing I do want to mention in regards to Yoda teaching a bit on Lightsaber combat, while it is true that the bulk of training from him _should_ be in mastery of the force but at the same time it's shown that at least a good part of the training is in physical discipline. Yes Yoda's training of Luke does incorporate a lot of exercises and other forms of physical training but I honestly think that Yoda likely _would_ still give Luke some pointers on Lightsaber combat since it would still be part of that same discipline.
Boba-que sauce is too good.
Headcanon: Yoda was teaching Luke the lightsaber techniques to rib him. Explanation: Yoda has shown that he loves messing with people by this point. He tricked him into thinking he's a civilian instead of the person Luke was meant to find after all. So maybe he was forcing Luke to run laps and swing a lightsaber to 'fulfill' Luke's wishes by putting him into the sort of training he had expected. Just another example of Yoda subverting Luke's expectations.
After all, why do the exercises with Yoda on his back, whose only real purpose would be to build muscle, then tell him later that it's the force that matters "not this crude flesh"?
If I recall correctly the Mandolorian in the show initially used a rifle that did disintegrate it's targets. He shot at some Jawas and they instantly turned into smoke and cloth
The single best joke in this whole video was the _real_ reason why Vader was obsessed with tracking down the Millennium Falcon. I haven't had a good laugh like that in weeks!
12:25 - Not only that, in the N64 game ( _later ported to PC_ ), *Shadows of the Empire* there's a couple of cages inside rooms that contain Wampas.
And you can let them loose and they will kill Stormtroopers! Hilariously the Storm/Snowtroopers won't attack them though, they'll only attack you.
THE THUMBNAIL LOOKED LIKE SOMETHING I CANNOT UNSEE XD
39:30 Actually yes. While not necessarily "handheld" like say a standard blaster, in The Mandalorian season 1, Din Djarin wields a phase-pulse blaster rifle, first seen in use by Boba Fett in the Star Wars holiday special. Later on when Din sees the Jawas dismantling his ship, he shoots at them with the rifle which fully disintegrates them. In Legends, and I believe even in Canon, the Empire had full outlawed them, however some were still being traded in the black market and in the outer rim to bounty hunters.
Ah, The joys of retaining useless information to my favorite franchise.
I know where you're coming from with Yoda and the lightsaber training...but Yoda knows Luke will one day have to fight Vader. The "that boy is our last hope" line makes it clear that Yoda and Obi-Wan want this confrontation to happen. Any Force abilities Luke learns, Vader could counter with his own Force powers. A fight with Vader will inevitably end with a lightsaber duel. If we ignore the prequels and look at this using only A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, we know Yoda trained Obi-Wan and Obi-Wan trained Vader. Yoda has been in contact with Obi-Wan, and the two are most likely training Luke to defend himself specifically against Vader's fighting style.
Just want to point something out. At best a little in the range of 100 Jedi survived, a lot of them fodder for Vader to kill. At the height of the clone wars there were 10,000 Jedi living and serving the galaxy. So while it seems like a lot survived, it's still fits within the narrative, especially as Obi-Wan and Yoda didn't know most of them were alive.
I heard for why Lucas was uncertain about doing prequels/sequels to star wars was the hard work that went into making the original trilogy. He was likely suffering burn out near the end and just didn't feel like doing a sequel then and there come return of the Jedi.
This is probably why he chose Luke's sister be Leia and not a new villainess. His thought was probably just finish the trilogy as much as he could and adding a new villainess and crafting an arc for her and sequel baiting was just too much work already in addition to aiding in the film's development. Making Luke's sister Leia was likely a means to make his job as writer on it easier.
I heard this too was likely why the Prequels used CGI a lot becaise to Lucas, having CGI backgrounds meant not having to deal with local terrain and the hardships of filming in local terrain.
God bless it, I broke out laughing at the Fawn Circle joke. I'm wearing earbuds, so nobody else at the gym knows why.
I'll admit it, "bobacue sauce" gave me a chuckle.
Ironic that The Empire Strikes Back is considered dark when it's the only Episode where no major good guys die.
I'm sorry but how dare you not show Dak Ralter the respect he deserves.
My girlfriend just departed since visiting during the Ben 10 review, she wanted me to say the channel is quite great for a comics channel I showed to her as somebody who doenst read comics
I find it kinda funny that Luke never lets Vader or the Emperor know that he also got some training from Yoda. I just imagine that if he'd let it slip during their fight, Vader would've gone "oh... shit."
The Tauntaun dying DOES make sense, evolutionarily. Colder at night, even that creature would need to seek shelter. We have this in deserts and colder regions all the time, where a creature otherwise adapted to said cold can still succumb. It's a reason Emperor Penguins huddle together during snow storms. Evolved for the environment, CAN still freeze to death in the right circumstances.
His point was more that the tauntaun died before Luke and Han did, seeing as the humans aren't evolved for those climates.
Though maybe that was just some really, REALLY good cold weather gear. Potentially with sci-fi tech.
Good gear was my assumption. Especially if the creature was in no way evolved for those extreme temperatures. We're actually rather unique on Earth for our durability and ability to survive and recover from injury or extremes. Most other creatures cannot handle, naked, what we can for as long as we can. No reason to believe the alien is any different. Granted I doubt that was in consideration when writing the scene, but it DOES make sense.@@Greil9
I was eagerly looking forward to this for a while, in fact last night I found myself predicting that it would be uploaded when I woke up this morning and I was right ;)
The thing I appreciate about this film is Yoda, especially given his later depictions (or at least his reputation) which exaggerates his speech patterns and other quirks at the expense of his original characterisation as a genuinely wise and serious master who was simply testing Luke at the start, with some genuinely powerful moments demonstrating the toll that the fall of the Jedi and his exile has had on him, particularly the 'Wars not make one great' line.
I can probably give the film the benefit of the doubt that Luke being more of the 'hope' than all the other Jedi can still be put down to his personal connection to Vader as Anakin's son (which I think was the key thing in the end), not that he had inherited Anakin's power. As my only experience of the new canon is the first two sequel films (in fact aside from a handful of legends novels years back I'm only really familiar with the trilogies) I still have the legend canon explanation in my head for why Yoda couldn't leave as the 'dark side tree' helping shield Yoda from detection, though I doubt there has been any such explanation in the revised continuity.
One more minor thing that's amusing is the 'no disintegrations' bit, given the contrasting expanded media interpretations of that. I still have the Star Wars Visual Dictionary from when I was little (which for one thing was where I was learned the Emperor's name was Palpatine, therefore knowing where things were going with him in the Prequels) which Boba Fett's entry described him as having a reputation for doing that, not that it's canon as other bits in there (like how Darth Vader rose through the ranks) have clearly been overwritten by later media. Then there was something I might have read on tvtropes that something else the opposite way with Boba Fett basically moaning 'I do that one time and he keeps bringing it up!"
From the film specifically (as it didn't look like it was in the comic), the mention of a cloaking device was always odd to me. Naturally they did something with that in the 'Legends' media (with a more realistic depiction of such technology as being double blind) but to the best of my knowledge I don't think that such technology has even been brought up in the current canon of the franchise. That just makes it seem like a random and typically sci-fi thing that Lucas thought he needed to put in without anything more being done to show or even acknowledge that it exists in this universe.
They DID bring up cloaking devices in Last Jedi, specifically a "cloaking field" that was shielding the escaping transport ships, but the First Order were able to pierce once they knew what to look for.
I had these and other Star Wars comics as a kid. I boxed them away when my parents said I out grew them and they got tucked in the back of the house behind and under things. I long considered giving them to you , but by the time I found them , not only had you already reviewed a few of them , they had also crumbled over time and disintegrated in to dust upon picking them back up.
Other long lost collectables were also found, and in better condition but didn't sell for any place near what legends say they sell for.
Just realized how similar the Dagaba cave is to how hell was portrayed in Stanley and his Monster.
11:32 ...he says knowing full well that Rogue 2 gets blown up about 15 minutes later.
Interestingly enough, my significant other and I have a different, more positive interpretation on the somewhat infamous "I know" from Han.
We both always read that line as "you don't have to tell me, because your actions/behavior already show me that you do".
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Granted, Leia and Han are always kinda bickering, but we have adapted the habit of responding with "I know", whenever one of us gets the urge to tell the other.
LINKARA! THE CONTINUNITY ALARM HAS GAINED SENTIENCE AND BECAME A DC CHARACTER!
C-3PO: Oh yeah, by the way, that guy's your brother. No harm telling you now. Damage already done.
Leia: Oh, wow, he's quite a cutie and.. Oh, my God, I made out with my own brother
Han: HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
Leia: Why didn't you tell me?!
Han: Because it's hilarious!
C-3PO: You only just found out about it now.
Han: And it's hilarious!
@@AT4W Luke: I need time... Time to adjust! Time to-
Yoda: Now Training Begins! *smacks Luke* Ready you weren't!
Looking back on this as an adult, I think having a near villain victory like this was a good choice. Incompetent villains continually failing means there's no stakes, no challenge to overcome. By having the heroes make mistakes and fail to stop the bad guys, it makes the victories, both small here (Luke being rescued, Lando joining the group), and the events of the next movie, feel earned.
It's a wake up call for Luke that he can't be brash and headstrong all the time, and as you noted, shows how his strengths are also his weaknesses.
Also I agree 100% that applying the Divine Right of Kinds philosophy to the Jedi is stupid and never should have happened. I really prefer Rey as some nobody from nowhere. I really wish they hadn't walked back The Last Jedi's shake ups.
We have seen a weapon disintegrated something in Star Wars, in the second episode of the first season of the Mandalorian. Mando vaporized a Jawa with his long rifle during the scene when he finds them dismantling his ship
39:45 Mando's rifle could, but it looked like he needed some kind of special cartridge to do it. Also in the movie Vader pointed directly at Boba, so he probably did at some point
That rifle Mando uses is the same one Boba Fett is seen with in the Holiday Special.
Linkara I get not being a fan of the chosen one stuff or the bloodline but even befire Midichlorians power levels existed. As Obi-Wan and Yoda stated the force flows through EVERY creature. But the fact Vader was able to “hunt the Jedi to near extinction” means there had to be some requirement beyond ideology to be one
In the mandalorian, there was a rifle like weapon that the titular character used in. It can disintegrate people but never a hand held weapon
It is interesting how when we see closeups of Yoda he resembles how he looks in the movies, but when we see his full body he resembles one of his earlier concept designs.
I now have stuck in my head Vader singing "Would you like to make a snowman?"
33:37 - Personally I don't have a problem with so many Jedi surviving as statistically Order 66 could have been a success even with so many Jedi surviving in canon and also Obi-Wan is under the impression that Luke is the Chosen One (Yoda reveals later on their is another meaning he suspects it is Leia which was Lucas' original intent for the Sequel Trilogy with her becoming Supreme Chancellor) as he came to the conclusion Anakin wasn't due to his fall & becoming Darth Vader (he was ultimately wrong as Luke realized his father could be redeemed & that the light of Anakin still existed in Darth Vader, and Luke's refusal to kill him saw him embrace the true path of a Jedi, with him reminding Anakin of the Jedi he once was with his line like my father before me)! Basically Obi-Wan while at one with the Force is still blinded to the truth as Yoda is as they are both preparing Luke to kill Vader! Anakin is the chosen one as he aided Palpatine in destroying the Jedi who no longer truly served the will of the Force and eventually Palpatine himself as Palpatine was the embodiment of the Dark Side! By choosing to die, Anakin brought balance by putting the Light & Dark sides back at square one (the sequel trilogy doesn't contradict this as it takes place long after the battle of Endor and was likely do to Palpatine cheating death as well as his manipulation of Ben Solo via Snoke & eventually in person before he returned to the light)! You have to remember Obi-Wan & Yoda aren't any more perfect than Luke is and there are plenty of examples in LEGENDs & Canon of the Jedi doing questionable things (from the Republic's war crimes such as faking surrender to the CIS which in the real world is classified as a war crime by the Geneva convention, to their practice of taking children from their parents)! While Star Wars is often viewed as a classic struggle of Good vs Evil, it isn't all black and white! Having Obi-Wan shift his view of Anakin being the Chosen One to Luke makes sense based upon his character & Yoda considering the possibility it could be Leia works to as Yoda realized his failures during his fight with the Emperor in Revenge of the Sith!
Yea Ben went into Parliament before he was exiled off of Earth
A little movie trivia: apparently the only actor on set who knew the line "I am your father" was Mark Hamill. The original script, which everyone else got said "Obi-Wan killed your father", and the other line was added in post. Apparently, being left in the dark with that detail angered David Prowse (the on set actor for Vader), because he thought his body language would be completely different he had known.
I now have a mental image of Darth Vader either tapping his chest or pointing at himself, while saying the line.
8:14 Um, Ack Shual Lee, in Expanded Universe material, it's explained that the Wampa uses its hot breath to melt the ice of the cave and sticks it on the ceiling and lets the water refreeze so it can save it for later.