@ aihebhoriahelen895 I think the catholic teaching would be that they can if they have to and the orthodox teaching would be that they shouldn’t at all
Take if you beleive the gospel, are baptized and beleive in the real presence.the baptismal formula that makes you part of the body of Christ is in the name of the father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Take it if that is your faith. Don’t allow anyone to stop you and never answer questions about if you took classes etc to be Catholic. You believe, you should take communion. Period.
The question you brought up was "why can't I receive communion as a non catholic?" But the video you referenced basically said "because you're not Christian." Even though it's been established that the person asking would be a Christian just from a different denomination.
As said in the video, receiving the Eucharist is a declaration of ones desire for communion with both Christ, and His church... to be more specific, the Catholic Church. So if you believe in the real presence, desire communion with God, but reject the Bride of Christ which is the catholic church, you don't meet the standard nessecary for communion, since you should desire communion with Jesus and His Bride the church. Hope this helps, God Bless! Ps. For me it was a belief in the real presence that solidified the legitimacy of the Catholic Church, (among other important things) so if you do believe in the real presence that John chapter 6 describes please look deeper into Catholicism!
@qwazardmage4736 2 things, 1, @qwazardmage4736 its not meant to be solely divisive. it's meant to adhere to truth. It's based on apostolic succession and the passing down of authority from Christ through Peter and then those who have inherented the keys given to Peter. If you believe in the real presence, then the authority and power to transubstantiate the Bread and Wine into Jesus's body blood soul and divinity must follow from the source of that authority and power; deviations from that source and body into derivatives (while maintaining some redeeming qualities in theology, structure and tradition) still aren't the same thing. 2, that being said, the Catholic Church allows Othodox followers to receive the Eucharist at a Catholic Mass. It's actually the Orthodox churches that don't recognize the validity of Catholic sacraments. God bless!
The issue is that while Catholics, Orthodox, etc. claim exclusivity as the universal Church, Protestants consider the universal Church to be invisible and exist within many visible churches. That is why the PCA (and other Evangelical churches) invites everyone who is a member (vows are taken!) of a gospel-preaching, Bible-believing church to take part in the Lord’s Supper. The pastor also fences the table, warning those who are not baptized members in such a church to not partake. The reasoning is the same, but the fundamental difference b/w Protestants and Catholics makes a big difference.
@MilesDei95 If the priest knew your wife was prot, he would refuse your wife communion. She should not recieve in a Catholic church. Please speak with the priest about it.
@@MilesDei95 Your priest is wrong. If she has not converted and received the sacrament of confession, she should not be receiving communion. Your priest is allowing sacrilege. It's pretty clear in the Catechism. See CCC 1400.
@@CatholicMomof5 then the bishopnis wrong also. He allowed her to be a part of communion. So that is it. And she was in confession, that is the place she wasntold she can take it.
As a non-Catholic Christian (I guess I lean towards Lutheranism), I am completely fine not taking communion at times I have been to Catholic mass. My reasoning is that lying is a sin and I don't want to give the priest or anyone else in the room the false impression that I am a confirmed member of the Roman Catholic church. That's my perspective at least.
The main differences between Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism. the main things which keep our religions separate are: Papal Supremacy, Papal Infallibility, The Filioque, Absolute Divine Simplicity, Created Grace Doctrine, natural theology, scholasticism, Original sin, sacred heart doctrine, Immaculate conception, Purgatory, Merits/Indulgences, evolution of Dogma,imaginative prayer, "beatific vision" etc Then the Forced Celibacy of Priests, The use of Unleavened Bread in the Eucharist, The Adoption and change of the Christian calendar, The use of Renaissance statues, Pews, Child Communion, improper non immersion baptism, Cardinals, and differences in liturgical practices (Alter tables, Iconostasis, priest positioning etc) all of those things, we say the Western Church adopted and innovated and became heretical when they adopted these things. And we say that in the early church NONE of these things existed, there is no evidence of these things. No examples of Papal Infallibility, No examples of merits/indulgences, and no examples of unleavened wafer bread, and such. In fact in the west, In Rome. It looked a lot similar to how we Orthodox exist today. Our priests can get married, we use Icons and not statues, we use the old calendar etc Orthodoxy Vs Roman Catholicism: Energy Essence Distinction vs Absolute Divine Simplicity Ancestral Sin vs Original Sin Non Filioque Trinity vs Filioque Trinity Patriarchy vs Papacy Revealed Theology vs Natural Theology Hesychasm Vs Scholasticism Theosis vs Sanctification Married Priest vs Celibate Priests Infant Communion Vs Non Infant Communion Iconography vs Statues Full Immersion Baptism vs Sprinkle Baptism One Baptism vs Confirmation Baptism Leavened Communion Bread vs Unleavened Communion bread Julian Calendar vs Pope Gregory's Calendar We are not the same Religion, we do not have the same faith, and anyone who looks into either religions genuinely will see how different we are.
@@momus2424 Wow great list. Many of the roadblocks that I run into with Catholicism are not present. Especially the graven image, I think I could rationalize pictures. As long as you aren't kissing them. Thank you. God bless.
To be more specific, not all non-Catholics can’t receive the Eucharist. According to the code of canon law of the roman catholic church, churches that are not in communion with Rome but are recognised by Rome to have valid apostolic succession and valid sacraments can receive the Eucharist in catholic churches. These include (Eastern and oriental orthodoxy, and the Assyrian church of the east) and in very rare cases some Protestant denominations, possibly lutherans or anglicans.
I was always told that the lutheran senate adheres to the guidelines that must be meet for catholic communion, but I was told yes from one priest and no from another 🤷🏻♀️
Isn't that literally their position though. The Catholic church and the Eastern Orthodox church believe to be the one true church with every other denomination being heretical?
@@fireblossom9618that seems to be the position of every denomination. Even every Protestant denomination also says theirs is the true church and certain things other denominations believe are heretical (non biblical)
@@DRWH044don’t know what Protestant church you have gone to. I’m a Baptist and I have never heard anyone in my church or the surrounding Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal churches claim that we are the “true church” and whoever is not with us is damned.
@@levipatterson1905 I've never heard that myself as well but i have an American friend who said their baptist church said that. It depends on the church for protestants but i believe it's part of the theology for the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox
Also most protestants do not confess, and every good catholic know that you cannot recieve Christ's in your heart if your heart is filled with sin and hate. So you must confess before recieving the eucarist.
Confession to you is prob different than Protestants. Protestants confess directly to God (well many anyway). We pray to God to forgive us of our sins, then we take communion. At least that is how me any many others do it.
@jadongrifhorst6221 Protestants rarely confess their actual sins. As a former protestant, we typically just asked for forgiveness for whatever sin we committed. It's a very different thing to have to name the sin and how many times it's been committed. It's a huge transition to begin thinking about what things are actual sins and need to be confessed. We confess to God as well. We just have a priest present when we do it.
@@CatholicMomof5 you just went to the wrong Protestant church apparently, which is a problem with the Protestant church (that it is so divided), but for those who unite around the truth, I’ve found that confession is a huge deal, especially with more traditional churches.
I am my Beloveds and He is mine His banner Over me is Love. If the Christ accepts me at His table, eh, let no man put asunder. O! The things over which we raise disputes.. peace be with you. Respecfully submitted for your consideration Gregg Oreo Long Beach CA États Unis
Yes. The Church is not an organization or a building, but it is the Body of Christ, consisting of all disciples of Christ (irrespective of denominations),
Funny thing, the catholic Church as an organisation as its today didn't become a thing untill around 600AD, so you are correct, the church is the followers of Christ, irrespective of denomination
@@RosalindTohChurch must be visible, have means to spread the gospel, authentically confirm it and authoritatively interpret it. In all of this the promise of Jesus Christ is confirmed that he will be with the Apostles to the end of times. Since the Apostles died before the end of times, obviously this promise is also for the successors of the Apostles. I don't want to make this comment too long, but if you wanna get a more detailed perspective on this, which is also found in scripture I highly recommend this video: ua-cam.com/video/bOfdtjHojo4/v-deo.html
Praying for you. If you are interested, there’s a Catholic apologist named Trent Horn who could be helpful at answering questions you may have. God bless you.✝️🙏
Its praying to Saints to intercede for us. Its like going to your mother to ask for something from your father. Even if you can do it yourself, the help from that person will make it faster and the level of that person helps too.
Great video! Isn't that Father Michael? I've seen some of his videos but can't explicitly remember his name. Quick question, to become Catholic, do you have to believe everything the Church teaches? Like all the stuff about Mary?
Hello. I am an RCIA Catechist and can answer that. The basic answer is yes. You have to submit to everything the church teaches because it is all from Christ. But this really takes a lot of study to understand correctly as there are nuances of some things that do not have to be believed. I would encourage you to find a good RCIA program and learn what the Church teaches in totality before you decide if you can submit to her teachings. It will be the most amazing thing you ever do for your faith to learn the full Catholic faith :)
@SonicForges Or you can just be a Christian. I know it dosent answer your question the other guy did that but your denomination unless your a Mormon unitarian universalist or a jehovas witness 90 percent of the time dosent matter.
@@theunstopablegoat I'm a Baptist that's interested in other denominations. While I agree as long as you truly believe in Christ your saved, I'm still curious about how and why others believe what they do and interested in learning about their culture.❤️
@@SonicForges Fair. I'm a pentecostal (not a hyper charismatic I just happen to go to a pentecostal church and don't believe in cessation). I just wish we'd be more into learning and not arguing
This video makes many assumptions. The Chruch is not yet the bride of Christ. It is the intended bride of Christ. Revelation 19:7-10 (NASB95): 7 “Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.” 8 It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. 9 Then he said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’ ” And he said to me, “These are true words of God.” 10 Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Ephesians 5:22-27 (NASB95): husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless The Church is to be made the birde of Christ. The Church will be presented holy and blameless before the Lord. His explanation is more of an explanation of salvation than the requirement of Communion. Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved Of course you must be saved to receive Communion. We still have two natures however, if you have the Holy Spirit. We are not yet one with Christ. The Bible commands that we put away with our filthiness, our sin, put our flesh and its desires to death. So that we may become more Christ like. We cannot achieve perfection without the death of our flesh, and the washing in Christ's blood as depicted in Revelations 7. This is not our own doing but it is of Christ. So we are not yet one with Christ, and the Church is not yet the bride of Christ. Communion is about the death and resurrection of Christ. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Its about remembering His sacrifice so that weay be given life. The traditions of man about the physical Communion take away from that. Christ used normal bread and normal wine during the last supper. Have reverence for Communion, reverance for the word of God, reverance for Him. Beware of these traditions that put aside the word of God. Mark 7:9-13 (NASB95): He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 “For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that
@@geraldhill7547Zion is not mentioned in Revelations 19 until Chapter 21:2. Marriage is the means of two becoming one flesh. Mark 10:8 Genesis 2:24. The Church and Christ cannot be one flesh without marriage. In Isaiah there is a Zion after the destruction that takes place in Revelations 19 or Isaiah 65. But that Zion is gone after the final rebellion, and a new Zion is brought after judgement day.
Plus the people who live in the Church and New Jerusalem are the same people. The same people of the promise to Abraham. In the new life there is no distinction between Jew and Greek. Romans 9:6-8 (NASB95): But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; 7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants will be named.” 8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants Romans 10:11-12 (NASB95): For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him
@@dak_attack1089 You said yourself Jesus is not married yet. The church is the BODY of Christ. Revelation 21 (my bad you were rambling in 19 thought you were at 21:2) The BRIDE is the New Jerusalem. "Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God," Pretty clear reading that Jesus (LAMB) will marry the New Jerusalem and the Tribes names will be written on the gates and the Apostles names on the foundation stones. God bless 🙏
@@dak_attack1089 Let's go to Ephesians 5:28 and read the rest of what you took out of context up to 5:27. "In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. Indeed, no one ever hated his own BODY, but he nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the CHURCH. For we are members of His BODY."
The only place they can't is internet. My wife is a protestant and she was always allowed the communion. And if there was any question it is if your have been babtised in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirt. Internet Christianity is different that real life Christianity.
True question do you think Jesus would accepted that premise that only those who verbally vowed to a church be allowed communion or did Jesus realize the need for blessings of all people willing to take the leap?
I'm not Catholic. If you believe that its sinful for me to have Communion at your church then I'm glad you don't let me have it. Even if you are wrong it shows that you are looking out for my wellbeing.
I'm a protestant, but I believe that Catholics are my brothers and sisters im Christ, and they believe so as well about me, atleast that I am a departed brother, and I want to be one with them just as Jesus tells us to be, so why can't I share in communion with my true family?
We are brothers as we share one baptism but you disagree with us on theological matters, We care about your soul as to not damn yourself. 1 Corinthians 11:27 "Wherefore whosoever shall eat the bread or drink the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord." and unless you repent of these disagreements and become truly part of the Mystical Body of Christ, you cant take part in the Holy Sacrifice.
@@thisisgin16There are many areas where I agree with Catholics, but also like how can you believe in papal infallibility? Humans are not God we can be and are wrong many times
This is absurd. All early Christians and disciples were allowed to receive the holy communion. in no way shape or form did Jesus advocate being a Catholic in order to receive it. Smh
@@Droppedcroissant1 Jesus call them followers, my sheep, disciples and 12 apostles. Never called or appointed them as Catholics. That man made word wasn’t even made up until later.
Christ only has 1 bride, and that is the Catholic Church. Protestants can go to Christ too, but the only *reassurance* of salvation is in the Catholic Church
@@davidgomez-perea3711Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved
@@davidgomez-perea3711yt keeps deleting my comment 😭Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved
Do not limit the knowledge of our lord ,he commanded us to be holy ,but we have made sects ,however the body of christ must be together , ❤️ the hands do not know why the feet walk ,nor the feet know why the hands grab ,only our father in heaven knows and will judge accordingly ,amen
The communion isn’t faulty but we also must come with the correct understanding and attitude in order to receive the most benefit. When a Catholic says Amen at receiving the Eucharist, they are professing their submission to everything that Jesus teaches us through His Church.
@@PatrickSteilwhat benefit does Communion bring? We are told to do it in remembrance of Christ. There isn't a spectrum of benefit that you get from Communion, either you do it right or you don't. Paul makes that pretty clear on 1 Corinthians 11.
@@PatrickSteil I think it’s the same with many Protestants except you can exchange Church with the Bible. Correct me if I’m wrong but when you say his church, are you implying the Catholic Church or true followers of Christ which can include people in the Catholic Church and Protestant Churches.
@dak_attack1089 grace, forgiveness of sins, union with Christ, etc. Yeah its done in rememberance, so what? Just because we're told to do it in rememberance doesn't mean it does nothing for us. Why would Christ tell us to do anything if its of no benefit to us? If its just a meaningless symbol then to hell with it.
Im not a Catholic (or yet) but to me. Transubstantiation seems common sense. More "is than is" with communion than even Martin Luther's is means is. So yea transubstantiation.
The Church has initiation rites that one undergoes to be brought in communion with the church. Simply put, To be in communion with the Catholic Church is to cease to be Protestant. I don’t say this to be mean or spiteful, just truthful. I’ve known people that have become Catholic to express the difficulty of leaving their past church. Because it is a difficult thing to do.
@Ben24Jamin You aren't Catholic, but go to a Catholic church and take communion? If so, you aren't following the customs of that church. Your preferences are irrelevant.
@@Ben24Jamin Then your comment is completely unrelated to the video. The video is literally talking about Catholic communion, not whatever church you go to.
@@davidgomez-perea3711 the catholic church is not the bride of Christ as claimed by catholics: if it was, then you need to read revelation 17 in the Spirit and see if you can understand what that means?
@davidgomez-perea3711 Nowhere in the bible is this said. It's gross misrepresentation of scripture that leads to this kind of thinking. You can be catholic, cool you believe in Jesus who cares. But for catholics to say I disagree with you on this you need to repent into catholicism is crazy and a worse misrepresentation of the bible.
Yes, but they do not hold to the doctrine of the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Also their pastors are not priests, who are given the authority to say Mass through the Apostolic Succession. I’ve met many Methodists who teach that believing in the Real Presence is “optional” like a belief in their hearts. Catholics are required to believe to receive communion. It’s the central focus in Mass, to receive the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord. I hope this helps and finds you well, God Bless!
@@kevinbenitez635 you are speaking to a former Catholic now a Protestant. Some denominations have priests, episcopalians for one. There is nothing in the Bible about apostolic succession. It is a Catholic belief and not in the Bible. And the idea of transubstantiation is also a Catholic belief. JESUS at the last supper told the disciples to "do this in memory of Me" after telling them that the bread represented His body and the wine His blood. Catholics believe the elements become His body and blood, but many hold to the belief that when taking communion it is in memory of His crucifixion on the Cross. If one believes in the transubstantiation, one could be accused of cannibalism and also the drinking of blood, of which Jews were forbidden to drink, and, the early Christian church also did not do. This is evidenced as one of the four prohibited things the council of Jerusalem told the Gentile Christians not to do, as chronicles in Acts.
The second reason. He made no distinction between Church and Church institution. We must be unified, are we not unified? If so is the Roman Catholic institution the *real* Church God spoke of? Or is Orthodox the *real* one or Protestants? See, one Holy Catholic Church is all of us. Or you've put more faith in man's secular laws than God's laws.
Simple: because the priest acts in the Person of Christ, or research "What is In Persona Christi?" Without a priest, you have no Christ to confess your sins to.
@user-ck5pc3vh5n in the book of Daniel, Daniel has nothing but God and the scriptures, as he is in Babylon where there are no priests and everyone is pagan. "The scriptures" that Daniel had was obviously not all of the Old Testament since Daniel is a part of the Old Testament lol. I believe his story is the same for both protestant and catholic bibles.
I don't think this is true. EO Christians are not in communion with Rome. Their sacraments are valid but this is more for the benefit of RC members, not EO members.
@@davidmckelvey2601 if your saying you don't think Catholics allow Orthodoxs to take part in their communion, this creator posted a video saying that Catholics allow it but Orthodoxs don't.
@@davidmckelvey2601 but RC church says that they can give sacraments to EO, and that catholics can take them in EO church, even tho Orthodox would never allow that
Revelation 18;4 Union with Christ is faith placed in Him Come out of this idolatrous church All Christans believers can Partake in Communion Come out of her ( Catholicism/ MY people, Rev18;4!
Actually neither cattolics itselves can't get the "Communion" if they didn't do the sacrament of the Communion when they were 9/10😂❤ So we are in the same boat😂❤
@@CatholicMomof5 well that's true Kids have to go to cathechism lessons one time per week and when they will be 9 years old, the Priest will organise for them the liturgical ritual called "First Holy Communion". From that moment and above they will be allowed to get the "Body of Christ" (when there is the moment of the Holy Communion during the Holy Messa, everyone lines up and goes to the Priest to take the Holy Body of Christ... just if they did the Holy Communion when they were 9 ofc!) If they don't join that ritual, they won't be able to do the Communion
@@letizia5564 So I guess when I received FHC at 28, it didn't count? This is a strange conversation. People convert to Catholicism all the time. Just because those born into it recieve at 8 (usually 2nd grade) doesn't mean that that is the only way.
See; I do not see the consistency is this. Protestants profess the same Gospel as Catholics; we have the same dedication to God. Catholics believe that we are saved; calling us departed brethren. The only time that it would be appropriate to say that Protestants are not the bride of Christ is if you are willing to say Protestants are also not saved. I can tell you what; if I could receive communion and the only church in my Church was Catholic; no matter how much I disagree with most Marian doctrine; no matter how much I disagree with purgatory; I would attend.
So did Jesus say to baptize in the name of the Father, the Sin and the church??? This s what Jehovah’s Witnesses do! They basically act as if your baptism doesn’t count unless it’s in THEIR church/denomination. If you’re baptized and believe THEN JUST TAKE IT! no one knows if you’re name is in their books or not and it doesn’t matter, your name is in Gods book of children
In a nutshell the Catholics don't see you as "real" Christians unless your catholic. because they believe they are the only real church so if your not catholic they believe your not following Christ or "true" Christianity thus cant take communion because your not one with Christ. At least that's what I got from this.
@@steveripethefustercluck. That's not true. Anybody with a valid baptism is considered to be baptized into the Christian faith. For Catholcis, a valid baptism is Trinitarian, with water, and with the proper intent. We accept baptisms from other faith communities without re-baptizing them. Ultimately, we do not allow people to receive communion who are not Catholic because they must agree with the Church and be free of sin through the sacrament of confession or else they are harming themselves, and we do not want them to be harmed. 1 Cor 11:27
@@CatholicMomof5 Ummm ok on the baptism thing However on what category are we being judged as unworthy to partake in communion. If we are legitimate Christian's in your eye's then what's making us unworthy to take what Christ meant to give us?
@steveripethefustercluck. The Catholic Church teaches that a person must be free of sin to partake of the Eucharist. Since Protestants do not participating the sacrament of confession, we can't know that they are without sin. Because we see someone receiving the eucharistic with sin on their soul as receiving unworthily (1 Cor 11:27), it would do them harm to receive. It is actually a protection to not allow people of other faiths to receive. Even a Catholic who needs to confess isn't suppose to partake. Many of us who haven't had a chance to get to confession, stay in the new and do not go up for communion.
You know Lutherans also have churches, right? So the whole argument falls apart. And if you then say "but it isn't the correct church" then you prove it isn't an argument, but just another case of Catholics saying everyone else is wrong, just because.
This is not a good explanation unless you believe that all Christians from other traditions e.g. Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, etc... are not going to be acknowledged by Jesus now or when he returns. To follow this logic, you must believe that anyone outside of the Roman Catholic church is not "saved" and is going to hell. Catholics can't have it both ways.
This is GATEKEEPING. If Christ meant literally as you say, “unless you eat the flesh of he Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” And that it WASN’T symbolic, then you are depriving people of what they need to be alive in Christ; Christ said his gifts are free for all to receive, what about excommunication as well? The magisterium does not have the authority to decide who can receive the Eucharist or be Baptized in the Holy Spirit, only god can choose that, and the judgement hasn’t yet come. “Woe to Pharisees…you blind guides, straining out a gnat while swallowing a camel.” Matthew 23:23-24
@@kevinbenitez635 I reject the claims of authority the magisterium makes. I accept Christ truly. I read my Bible and am well drilled in my faith. I pray daily, multiple times, and appear in church more often then not, and yet under Catholic theology, because I disagree with your pope, I’m bound for hell. Being a Catholic is about doctrine, being a Christian is about faith.
@@CptDawner Christ also said that "whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord" in 1 Corinthians 11:27. Only people themselves can deprive themselves of the eucharist.
@@CptDawner they are not claims of authority if Christ himself appointed Peter and his apostles and their successors the authority to bind and loose on earth for the church. You also heavily misunderstand catholic theology if you think the Pope is some sort of autocrat whose every whim you must obey. You also say that being christian is not about doctrine, but you would rather reject Christ's church and make your own doctrine from your private interpretation of scripture
@@redace6951 Christ did not appoint Peter as pope, this is a lie. That verse from Matthew was regarded by a majority of the early church fathers to mean that the CONFESSION that Peter gave was the rock, and his renaming didn’t signal a position of authority, but rather a symbolic recognition of his confession. Peter was not regarded as a the sole leader of the church by the other apostles, during the council of Jerusalem Peter speaks only twice, and isn’t even the one to deliver the verdict of the meeting or even give the conclusion statement. Rather, it was the bishop of Jerusalem: James, Brother of Jesus, which allows us to conclude that the authority was spread among the bishops, as they were equals, not that there was one ruling over, and providing guidance to all. They received their guidance from the New Testament oral tradition that had existed since Jesus’ ascension. Paul even corroborated what I’m saying when he wrote Galatians. Look at verse 1:8 if you don’t believe me. The idea of Rome being the head of the church didn’t arise until around the collapse of the Roman Empire in the 400’s AD. The Bishop of Rome used the power vacuum of the collapse to ingratiate himself with the new Italian barbarian kings, and defined a now, Roman superiority doctrine that hadn’t existed before his time. The abuses perpetrated by the magisterium since have been vile, and thoroughly against the Christian doctrine as taught by Jesus and the Apostles. I do not recognize any council after the 400’s AD, and do not recognize the magisteriums claims of authority. They are not biblical, and in fact Christ himself would chastise them, as currently the institutions of the Catholic Church resemble closely the ones of the Sanhedrin, which Christ rebukes the practices of constantly, as well as the traditions they held which came from man, and not god.
Again wrong. For two reasons. We do have our communion where we receive the bread and wine. Then we do our vows and then we affirm: this is the body of christ, this is the blood of christ.
Why don't anyone understand that religion was created to divide people and it is doing that job very perfectly we shall leave all the religions and focus on only spiritual awakening just like Buddha did I am not talking about Buddhism I am talking about the route Buddha took for spiritual awakening that is true faith of humankind
It's a matter of truth, if what Jesus Christ claimed you have to follow him because all the other ways lead to dead. If that's truth religion is no use for anything if you're already going to hell, like we all are. That is why God made himself a man and died for our sins so we can have eternal life and don't perish.
@@oliverneftaliandradeayala8504 the gods never intended us to live and eternal life the sole purpose of our life is to enhance spiritually over the years there is no such thing as hell or heaven you just take rebirth into a new body and that's all by spiritually awakening you break that cycle you become one with the SHE by becoming one with her you don't have to take rebirth look beyond Jesus Christ look beyond every single God look beyond the lies of the religion if you want to debate we can
shut up you have no idea what you are talking about you aren't any expert just some random guy who has no understanding of theology, philosophy or history
@@PatrickSteil see you are saying "catholic faith" there is a religion in everything now we shall look beyond that. That faith is useless because the divine consciousness has just given birth to you and after death you will take a rebirth and then the cycle will continue until you spiritually awaken, by spiritual awakening you break that cycle you become one with the divine consciousness in that divine consciousness is SHE
Btw the Father in the video is Father David Michael Moses
His channel is great
What about orthodox they can recive Catholic communion?
@ aihebhoriahelen895 I think the catholic teaching would be that they can if they have to and the orthodox teaching would be that they shouldn’t at all
@@jvoges alright thanks, God bless you
If I were pope Francis I would give him the title monsignor
Oh Sacrament Most Holy Oh Sacrament Divine All Praise and All Thanksgiving be every moment Thine ❤❤🌹🌹🙏🏽🙏🏽
I love this prayer
Take if you beleive the gospel, are baptized and beleive in the real presence.the baptismal formula that makes you part of the body of Christ is in the name of the father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Take it if that is your faith. Don’t allow anyone to stop you and never answer questions about if you took classes etc to be Catholic. You believe, you should take communion. Period.
@@melleethekathus says the apostle melleetheka in the epistle to the youtube shorts 2:12-16
The question you brought up was "why can't I receive communion as a non catholic?"
But the video you referenced basically said "because you're not Christian." Even though it's been established that the person asking would be a Christian just from a different denomination.
As said in the video, receiving the Eucharist is a declaration of ones desire for communion with both Christ, and His church... to be more specific, the Catholic Church. So if you believe in the real presence, desire communion with God, but reject the Bride of Christ which is the catholic church, you don't meet the standard nessecary for communion, since you should desire communion with Jesus and His Bride the church. Hope this helps, God Bless!
Ps. For me it was a belief in the real presence that solidified the legitimacy of the Catholic Church, (among other important things) so if you do believe in the real presence that John chapter 6 describes please look deeper into Catholicism!
@@mikejay1385Couldn't have said it better
@@mikejay1385catholic church belongs to christ as much as coptic and orthodox church, that is just a method to divide christians
@mikejay1385 You just said what he said. The catholic church is God's church and you need to look into it.
@qwazardmage4736 2 things,
1, @qwazardmage4736 its not meant to be solely divisive. it's meant to adhere to truth. It's based on apostolic succession and the passing down of authority from Christ through Peter and then those who have inherented the keys given to Peter. If you believe in the real presence, then the authority and power to transubstantiate the Bread and Wine into Jesus's body blood soul and divinity must follow from the source of that authority and power; deviations from that source and body into derivatives (while maintaining some redeeming qualities in theology, structure and tradition) still aren't the same thing.
2, that being said, the Catholic Church allows Othodox followers to receive the Eucharist at a Catholic Mass. It's actually the Orthodox churches that don't recognize the validity of Catholic sacraments. God bless!
I may not agree, but this is a very good explanation
Amen
I agree with everything he said! And I’m not a Catholic!
The issue is that while Catholics, Orthodox, etc. claim exclusivity as the universal Church, Protestants consider the universal Church to be invisible and exist within many visible churches. That is why the PCA (and other Evangelical churches) invites everyone who is a member (vows are taken!) of a gospel-preaching, Bible-believing church to take part in the Lord’s Supper. The pastor also fences the table, warning those who are not baptized members in such a church to not partake.
The reasoning is the same, but the fundamental difference b/w Protestants and Catholics makes a big difference.
No1 in Catholic church would say no ti a protestant wanting a communion. I have lived in many places and never no1 said no to.my protestant wife
@MilesDei95 If the priest knew your wife was prot, he would refuse your wife communion. She should not recieve in a Catholic church. Please speak with the priest about it.
@@CatholicMomof5 i did. And as i said he doesnt care. She is a Chriatian, she recived a valid babtism. So she was allowed to do so.
@@MilesDei95 Your priest is wrong. If she has not converted and received the sacrament of confession, she should not be receiving communion. Your priest is allowing sacrilege. It's pretty clear in the Catechism. See CCC 1400.
@@CatholicMomof5 then the bishopnis wrong also. He allowed her to be a part of communion. So that is it. And she was in confession, that is the place she wasntold she can take it.
As a non-Catholic Christian (I guess I lean towards Lutheranism), I am completely fine not taking communion at times I have been to Catholic mass. My reasoning is that lying is a sin and I don't want to give the priest or anyone else in the room the false impression that I am a confirmed member of the Roman Catholic church. That's my perspective at least.
This made me feel very alienated as a kid when my grandparents took me to their church.
That's why I follow our lord not an institution 🙏
Too bad ig, if you don’t want that then become catholic or deal with it
@@blorpbleepboopThat’s why you let your emotions guide you instead of truth
@@blorpbleepboop if you don’t follow the Catholic Church then you can’t know the state of your salvation
you didn't get your way so you went away from God to your own image of him? I don't think God would like that very much.
Amen!
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The main differences between Orthodox Christianity and Roman Catholicism. the main things which keep our religions separate are:
Papal Supremacy, Papal Infallibility, The Filioque, Absolute Divine Simplicity, Created Grace Doctrine, natural theology, scholasticism, Original sin, sacred heart doctrine, Immaculate conception, Purgatory, Merits/Indulgences, evolution of Dogma,imaginative prayer, "beatific vision" etc
Then the Forced Celibacy of Priests, The use of Unleavened Bread in the Eucharist, The Adoption and change of the Christian calendar, The use of Renaissance statues, Pews, Child Communion, improper non immersion baptism, Cardinals, and differences in liturgical practices (Alter tables, Iconostasis, priest positioning etc)
all of those things, we say the Western Church adopted and innovated and became heretical when they adopted these things.
And we say that in the early church NONE of these things existed, there is no evidence of these things.
No examples of Papal Infallibility, No examples of merits/indulgences, and no examples of unleavened wafer bread, and such.
In fact in the west, In Rome. It looked a lot similar to how we Orthodox exist today. Our priests can get married, we use Icons and not statues, we use the old calendar etc
Orthodoxy Vs Roman Catholicism:
Energy Essence Distinction vs Absolute Divine Simplicity
Ancestral Sin vs Original Sin
Non Filioque Trinity vs Filioque Trinity
Patriarchy vs Papacy
Revealed Theology vs Natural Theology
Hesychasm Vs Scholasticism
Theosis vs Sanctification
Married Priest vs Celibate Priests
Infant Communion Vs Non Infant Communion
Iconography vs Statues
Full Immersion Baptism vs Sprinkle Baptism
One Baptism vs Confirmation Baptism
Leavened Communion Bread vs Unleavened Communion bread
Julian Calendar vs Pope Gregory's Calendar
We are not the same Religion, we do not have the same faith, and anyone who looks into either religions genuinely will see how different we are.
@@momus2424 Wow great list. Many of the roadblocks that I run into with Catholicism are not present. Especially the graven image, I think I could rationalize pictures. As long as you aren't kissing them. Thank you. God bless.
Nice copypasta
To be more specific, not all non-Catholics can’t receive the Eucharist. According to the code of canon law of the roman catholic church, churches that are not in communion with Rome but are recognised by Rome to have valid apostolic succession and valid sacraments can receive the Eucharist in catholic churches. These include (Eastern and oriental orthodoxy, and the Assyrian church of the east) and in very rare cases some Protestant denominations, possibly lutherans or anglicans.
I was always told that the lutheran senate adheres to the guidelines that must be meet for catholic communion, but I was told yes from one priest and no from another 🤷🏻♀️
Dogma of the highest degree.Its like saying you can’t follow Jesus Christ unless you do what the catholic Church says and have there permission
Idk if you understand what Dogma means
Isn't that literally their position though. The Catholic church and the Eastern Orthodox church believe to be the one true church with every other denomination being heretical?
@@fireblossom9618that seems to be the position of every denomination. Even every Protestant denomination also says theirs is the true church and certain things other denominations believe are heretical (non biblical)
@@DRWH044don’t know what Protestant church you have gone to. I’m a Baptist and I have never heard anyone in my church or the surrounding Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal churches claim that we are the “true church” and whoever is not with us is damned.
@@levipatterson1905 I've never heard that myself as well but i have an American friend who said their baptist church said that. It depends on the church for protestants but i believe it's part of the theology for the Catholics and Eastern Orthodox
I am Ortadox and I get holy communnion
Do a debate with Voice of Reason or Catholic Truth
Why debate, he too is catholic
Also most protestants do not confess, and every good catholic know that you cannot recieve Christ's in your heart if your heart is filled with sin and hate. So you must confess before recieving the eucarist.
Confession to you is prob different than Protestants. Protestants confess directly to God (well many anyway). We pray to God to forgive us of our sins, then we take communion. At least that is how me any many others do it.
Protestants confess our sins; that’s like the first step towards salvation, and we do it continually
Your ignorance is showing brother.
Protestants are the true Christians of the World.
Catholics and Orthodoxs are even worse than Jehovah's Witnesses.
@jadongrifhorst6221 Protestants rarely confess their actual sins. As a former protestant, we typically just asked for forgiveness for whatever sin we committed. It's a very different thing to have to name the sin and how many times it's been committed. It's a huge transition to begin thinking about what things are actual sins and need to be confessed.
We confess to God as well. We just have a priest present when we do it.
@@CatholicMomof5 you just went to the wrong Protestant church apparently, which is a problem with the Protestant church (that it is so divided), but for those who unite around the truth, I’ve found that confession is a huge deal, especially with more traditional churches.
I am my Beloveds and He is mine His banner Over me is Love. If the Christ accepts me at His table, eh, let no man put asunder. O! The things over which we raise disputes.. peace be with you. Respecfully submitted for your consideration Gregg Oreo Long Beach CA États Unis
What if the church isn’t an organization but instead the followers of Christ themselves
It is the followers.
Yes. The Church is not an organization or a building, but it is the Body of Christ, consisting of all disciples of Christ (irrespective of denominations),
Funny thing, the catholic Church as an organisation as its today didn't become a thing untill around 600AD, so you are correct, the church is the followers of Christ, irrespective of denomination
@@RosalindTohChurch must be visible, have means to spread the gospel, authentically confirm it and authoritatively interpret it. In all of this the promise of Jesus Christ is confirmed that he will be with the Apostles to the end of times. Since the Apostles died before the end of times, obviously this promise is also for the successors of the Apostles. I don't want to make this comment too long, but if you wanna get a more detailed perspective on this, which is also found in scripture I highly recommend this video: ua-cam.com/video/bOfdtjHojo4/v-deo.html
As a lutheran i am getting kind of convinced of catholisisim one of the last things i disagree on are prayers to saints
The early Church fathers were praying to the saints. Like Pope Saint Clement who lived in the first century.
Don’t fall for papist propaganda, stay strong
Praying for you. If you are interested, there’s a Catholic apologist named Trent Horn who could be helpful at answering questions you may have. God bless you.✝️🙏
@@fallenkingdom-zd8xh yeah Trent Horn is hands down the best apologist alive today. I hope he will get canonized.
Its praying to Saints to intercede for us. Its like going to your mother to ask for something from your father. Even if you can do it yourself, the help from that person will make it faster and the level of that person helps too.
Great video! Isn't that Father Michael? I've seen some of his videos but can't explicitly remember his name. Quick question, to become Catholic, do you have to believe everything the Church teaches? Like all the stuff about Mary?
Hello. I am an RCIA Catechist and can answer that.
The basic answer is yes. You have to submit to everything the church teaches because it is all from Christ. But this really takes a lot of study to understand correctly as there are nuances of some things that do not have to be believed.
I would encourage you to find a good RCIA program and learn what the Church teaches in totality before you decide if you can submit to her teachings.
It will be the most amazing thing you ever do for your faith to learn the full Catholic faith :)
@@PatrickSteil Thank you!
@SonicForges Or you can just be a Christian. I know it dosent answer your question the other guy did that but your denomination unless your a Mormon unitarian universalist or a jehovas witness 90 percent of the time dosent matter.
@@theunstopablegoat I'm a Baptist that's interested in other denominations. While I agree as long as you truly believe in Christ your saved, I'm still curious about how and why others believe what they do and interested in learning about their culture.❤️
@@SonicForges Fair. I'm a pentecostal (not a hyper charismatic I just happen to go to a pentecostal church and don't believe in cessation). I just wish we'd be more into learning and not arguing
I go to a Presbyterian church and i have revived communion there
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This video makes many assumptions. The Chruch is not yet the bride of Christ. It is the intended bride of Christ. Revelation 19:7-10 (NASB95): 7 “Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb has come and His bride has made herself ready.”
8 It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.
9 Then he said to me, “Write, ‘Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.’ ” And he said to me, “These are true words of God.”
10 Then I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and your brethren who hold the testimony of Jesus; worship God. For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Ephesians 5:22-27 (NASB95): husbands, as to the Lord.
23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her,
26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,
27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless
The Church is to be made the birde of Christ. The Church will be presented holy and blameless before the Lord. His explanation is more of an explanation of salvation than the requirement of Communion. Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved
Of course you must be saved to receive Communion. We still have two natures however, if you have the Holy Spirit. We are not yet one with Christ. The Bible commands that we put away with our filthiness, our sin, put our flesh and its desires to death. So that we may become more Christ like. We cannot achieve perfection without the death of our flesh, and the washing in Christ's blood as depicted in Revelations 7. This is not our own doing but it is of Christ.
So we are not yet one with Christ, and the Church is not yet the bride of Christ. Communion is about the death and resurrection of Christ. That whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Its about remembering His sacrifice so that weay be given life.
The traditions of man about the physical Communion take away from that. Christ used normal bread and normal wine during the last supper.
Have reverence for Communion, reverance for the word of God, reverance for Him. Beware of these traditions that put aside the word of God.
Mark 7:9-13 (NASB95): He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.
10 “For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’;
11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’
12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother;
13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that
New Jerusalem is the bride, church is the body, you can't marry your own body.
You should read the rest of the chapter of revelation you quoted.
@@geraldhill7547Zion is not mentioned in Revelations 19 until Chapter 21:2. Marriage is the means of two becoming one flesh. Mark 10:8 Genesis 2:24. The Church and Christ cannot be one flesh without marriage.
In Isaiah there is a Zion after the destruction that takes place in Revelations 19 or Isaiah 65. But that Zion is gone after the final rebellion, and a new Zion is brought after judgement day.
Plus the people who live in the Church and New Jerusalem are the same people. The same people of the promise to Abraham. In the new life there is no distinction between Jew and Greek.
Romans 9:6-8 (NASB95): But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel;
7 nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “through Isaac your descendants will be named.”
8 That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants
Romans 10:11-12 (NASB95): For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him
@@dak_attack1089 You said yourself Jesus is not married yet.
The church is the BODY of Christ.
Revelation 21 (my bad you were rambling in 19 thought you were at 21:2)
The BRIDE is the New Jerusalem.
"Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,"
Pretty clear reading that Jesus (LAMB) will marry the New Jerusalem and the Tribes names will be written on the gates and the Apostles names on the foundation stones.
God bless 🙏
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Let's go to Ephesians 5:28 and read the rest of what you took out of context up to 5:27.
"In the same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. Indeed, no one ever hated his own BODY, but he nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ does the CHURCH. For we are members of His BODY."
The only place they can't is internet.
My wife is a protestant and she was always allowed the communion. And if there was any question it is if your have been babtised in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirt.
Internet Christianity is different that real life Christianity.
True question do you think Jesus would accepted that premise that only those who verbally vowed to a church be allowed communion or did Jesus realize the need for blessings of all people willing to take the leap?
I'm not Catholic. If you believe that its sinful for me to have Communion at your church then I'm glad you don't let me have it. Even if you are wrong it shows that you are looking out for my wellbeing.
I'm a protestant, but I believe that Catholics are my brothers and sisters im Christ, and they believe so as well about me, atleast that I am a departed brother, and I want to be one with them just as Jesus tells us to be, so why can't I share in communion with my true family?
We are brothers as we share one baptism but you disagree with us on theological matters, We care about your soul as to not damn yourself.
1 Corinthians 11:27
"Wherefore whosoever shall eat the bread or drink the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord."
and unless you repent of these disagreements and become truly part of the Mystical Body of Christ, you cant take part in the Holy Sacrifice.
@@thisisgin16There are many areas where I agree with Catholics, but also like how can you believe in papal infallibility? Humans are not God we can be and are wrong many times
@@thisisgin16 can you give me an example of a theological issue that I'm wrong on?
@@schoolaccount-g6z Apostolic Succession and the Eucharist
@@KazehareRaiden Trent Horn has done a great talk addressing the Papal Infallibility with 2 Protestant Pastors
This is absurd. All early Christians and disciples were allowed to receive the holy communion. in no way shape or form did Jesus advocate being a Catholic in order to receive it. Smh
But they were all Catholic. Now there is many denominations and they have there own communion. But non-Catholics can’t receive Catholic Communion.
@@Droppedcroissant1 Jesus call them followers, my sheep, disciples and 12 apostles. Never called or appointed them as Catholics. That man made word wasn’t even made up until later.
But this doesn't take into account how Eastern Orthodox can receive it
So i sinned because im orthodox?and i had communion on Catholic Pascha?
But I am united with Christ in the church. The church consists of more than just Catholicism.
Do you believe in the real presence? I'm just wondering 😊
Christ only has 1 bride, and that is the Catholic Church. Protestants can go to Christ too, but the only *reassurance* of salvation is in the Catholic Church
@@davidgomez-perea3711Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved
@@davidgomez-perea3711yt keeps deleting my comment 😭Romans 10:8-13 (NASB95): But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”-that is, the word of faith which we are preaching,
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.”
12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved
@@davidgomez-perea3711 give me the Scriptures that say exactly what you just said
Do not limit the knowledge of our lord ,he commanded us to be holy ,but we have made sects ,however the body of christ must be together , ❤️ the hands do not know why the feet walk ,nor the feet know why the hands grab ,only our father in heaven knows and will judge accordingly ,amen
I'm not Catholic and I've received communion. Does that mean that the communion I received is faulty, if so what authority do you have to say such?
The communion isn’t faulty but we also must come with the correct understanding and attitude in order to receive the most benefit.
When a Catholic says Amen at receiving the Eucharist, they are professing their submission to everything that Jesus teaches us through His Church.
@@PatrickSteilwhat benefit does Communion bring? We are told to do it in remembrance of Christ. There isn't a spectrum of benefit that you get from Communion, either you do it right or you don't. Paul makes that pretty clear on 1 Corinthians 11.
@@PatrickSteilYes because catholics are saved and the rest of us are heretics.
@@PatrickSteil
I think it’s the same with many Protestants except you can exchange Church with the Bible. Correct me if I’m wrong but when you say his church, are you implying the Catholic Church or true followers of Christ which can include people in the Catholic Church and Protestant Churches.
@dak_attack1089 grace, forgiveness of sins, union with Christ, etc. Yeah its done in rememberance, so what? Just because we're told to do it in rememberance doesn't mean it does nothing for us. Why would Christ tell us to do anything if its of no benefit to us? If its just a meaningless symbol then to hell with it.
Im not a Catholic (or yet) but to me.
Transubstantiation seems common sense.
More "is than is" with communion than even Martin Luther's is means is.
So yea transubstantiation.
Is it possible for a Lutheran to be in communion with the Catholic Church and still be Lutheran?
The Church has initiation rites that one undergoes to be brought in communion with the church. Simply put, To be in communion with the Catholic Church is to cease to be Protestant. I don’t say this to be mean or spiteful, just truthful. I’ve known people that have become Catholic to express the difficulty of leaving their past church. Because it is a difficult thing to do.
But the Catholic Church calls Protestants separated brethren?
I am not a Catholic but I have taken communion
Please don't. Even if you don't agree with what we believe, it's only fitting to respect the customs of those you visit.
@@CatholicMomof5
I take communion at my church, that’s my custom
@Ben24Jamin You aren't Catholic, but go to a Catholic church and take communion? If so, you aren't following the customs of that church. Your preferences are irrelevant.
@@CatholicMomof5
Nahh I never said I went to a Catholic Church, also I don’t drink alcohol
@@Ben24Jamin Then your comment is completely unrelated to the video. The video is literally talking about Catholic communion, not whatever church you go to.
Why would anyone that has been baptized in the Spirit of God and has total communion with God, want to be in communion with catholicism?
Because the Catholic Church is the Church Jesus started
Because the Catholic Church is the bride of Christ, the only Church founded by Christ himself, the one that the apostles kept going until today
@@davidgomez-perea3711 the catholic church is not the bride of Christ as claimed by catholics: if it was, then you need to read revelation 17 in the Spirit and see if you can understand what that means?
@davidgomez-perea3711 Nowhere in the bible is this said. It's gross misrepresentation of scripture that leads to this kind of thinking. You can be catholic, cool you believe in Jesus who cares. But for catholics to say I disagree with you on this you need to repent into catholicism is crazy and a worse misrepresentation of the bible.
@@theunstopablegoat why does the bible disagree with catholicism?
They think there more holy than us it’s a ego complex
Im in union with Jesus, not a church.
Poor Jesus.If only he could save those who aren't catholic.Poor planning as Jesus "misses the mark" as savior
Hey guy, many Protestant denominations have communion, not for the same reasoning as for Catholics.
Yes, but they do not hold to the doctrine of the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Also their pastors are not priests, who are given the authority to say Mass through the Apostolic Succession. I’ve met many Methodists who teach that believing in the Real Presence is “optional” like a belief in their hearts. Catholics are required to believe to receive communion. It’s the central focus in Mass, to receive the Body Blood Soul and Divinity of our Lord. I hope this helps and finds you well, God Bless!
@@kevinbenitez635 you are speaking to a former Catholic now a Protestant. Some denominations have priests, episcopalians for one. There is nothing in the Bible about apostolic succession. It is a Catholic belief and not in the Bible. And the idea of transubstantiation is also a Catholic belief. JESUS at the last supper told the disciples to "do this in memory of Me" after telling them that the bread represented His body and the wine His blood. Catholics believe the elements become His body and blood, but many hold to the belief that when taking communion it is in memory of His crucifixion on the Cross. If one believes in the transubstantiation, one could be accused of cannibalism and also the drinking of blood, of which Jews were forbidden to drink, and, the early Christian church also did not do. This is evidenced as one of the four prohibited things the council of Jerusalem told the Gentile Christians not to do, as chronicles in Acts.
@@kevinbenitez635
Anyone who believes the Holy Spirit is all around us (that God is everywhere) believes that God is in communion.
Are non-Catholic Christians not in the bride of Christ?
The second reason. He made no distinction between Church and Church institution. We must be unified, are we not unified? If so is the Roman Catholic institution the *real* Church God spoke of? Or is Orthodox the *real* one or Protestants? See, one Holy Catholic Church is all of us. Or you've put more faith in man's secular laws than God's laws.
Why do you believe that people need to go through a priest or someone to get to God?
Simple: because the priest acts in the Person of Christ, or research "What is In Persona Christi?" Without a priest, you have no Christ to confess your sins to.
@user-ck5pc3vh5n well how did Daniel in the Bible come to know God? All He had was an incomplete Old Testament?
@@schoolaccount-g6z What do you mean by an "incomplete Old Testament"? Which Bible are you referring to?
@user-ck5pc3vh5n in the book of Daniel, Daniel has nothing but God and the scriptures, as he is in Babylon where there are no priests and everyone is pagan. "The scriptures" that Daniel had was obviously not all of the Old Testament since Daniel is a part of the Old Testament lol. I believe his story is the same for both protestant and catholic bibles.
Taíze?
Yet you still allow Orthodox to take it
This is something I was going to say.
because they have valid sacraments and the like protestants aren't confirmed so they can't recieve it's very simple.
I don't think this is true. EO Christians are not in communion with Rome. Their sacraments are valid but this is more for the benefit of RC members, not EO members.
@@davidmckelvey2601 if your saying you don't think Catholics allow Orthodoxs to take part in their communion, this creator posted a video saying that Catholics allow it but Orthodoxs don't.
@@davidmckelvey2601 but RC church says that they can give sacraments to EO, and that catholics can take them in EO church, even tho Orthodox would never allow that
Revelation 18;4
Union with Christ is faith placed in Him
Come out of this idolatrous church
All Christans believers can
Partake in Communion
Come out of her ( Catholicism/
MY people, Rev18;4!
So basically, because you're not a member of our church, you can't take comunnion.
You can become a member and not be Catholic.
More like if you're not a catholic you're going to hell 😂
bro change your shirt
PLEASE
Wait but I thought orthodox can receive
Completely in line with Catholic teachings and completely unbiblical.
Actually neither cattolics itselves can't get the "Communion" if they didn't do the sacrament of the Communion when they were 9/10😂❤
So we are in the same boat😂❤
@@letizia5564 Huh? 🤔
@@CatholicMomof5 well that's true
Kids have to go to cathechism lessons one time per week and when they will be 9 years old, the Priest will organise for them the liturgical ritual called "First Holy Communion". From that moment and above they will be allowed to get the "Body of Christ" (when there is the moment of the Holy Communion during the Holy Messa, everyone lines up and goes to the Priest to take the Holy Body of Christ... just if they did the Holy Communion when they were 9 ofc!)
If they don't join that ritual, they won't be able to do the Communion
@@letizia5564 So I guess when I received FHC at 28, it didn't count? This is a strange conversation. People convert to Catholicism all the time. Just because those born into it recieve at 8 (usually 2nd grade) doesn't mean that that is the only way.
See; I do not see the consistency is this. Protestants profess the same Gospel as Catholics; we have the same dedication to God. Catholics believe that we are saved; calling us departed brethren. The only time that it would be appropriate to say that Protestants are not the bride of Christ is if you are willing to say Protestants are also not saved.
I can tell you what; if I could receive communion and the only church in my Church was Catholic; no matter how much I disagree with most Marian doctrine; no matter how much I disagree with purgatory; I would attend.
So did Jesus say to baptize in the name of the Father, the Sin and the church???
This s what Jehovah’s Witnesses do! They basically act as if your baptism doesn’t count unless it’s in THEIR church/denomination.
If you’re baptized and believe THEN JUST TAKE IT! no one knows if you’re name is in their books or not and it doesn’t matter, your name is in Gods book of children
In a nutshell the Catholics don't see you as "real" Christians unless your catholic.
because they believe they are the only real church so if your not catholic they believe your not following Christ or "true" Christianity thus cant take communion because your not one with Christ.
At least that's what I got from this.
@@steveripethefustercluck. That's not true. Anybody with a valid baptism is considered to be baptized into the Christian faith. For Catholcis, a valid baptism is Trinitarian, with water, and with the proper intent. We accept baptisms from other faith communities without re-baptizing them. Ultimately, we do not allow people to receive communion who are not Catholic because they must agree with the Church and be free of sin through the sacrament of confession or else they are harming themselves, and we do not want them to be harmed. 1 Cor 11:27
@@CatholicMomof5
Ummm ok on the baptism thing
However on what category are we being judged as unworthy to partake in communion. If we are legitimate Christian's in your eye's then what's making us unworthy to take what Christ meant to give us?
@steveripethefustercluck. The Catholic Church teaches that a person must be free of sin to partake of the Eucharist. Since Protestants do not participating the sacrament of confession, we can't know that they are without sin. Because we see someone receiving the eucharistic with sin on their soul as receiving unworthily (1 Cor 11:27), it would do them harm to receive. It is actually a protection to not allow people of other faiths to receive. Even a Catholic who needs to confess isn't suppose to partake. Many of us who haven't had a chance to get to confession, stay in the new and do not go up for communion.
Ok…
I'm just glad I'm not a Catholic i received the blood atonement through faith alone Roman's 3:25 KJV not some fake cup
You know Lutherans also have churches, right? So the whole argument falls apart. And if you then say "but it isn't the correct church" then you prove it isn't an argument, but just another case of Catholics saying everyone else is wrong, just because.
You forgot the church is not a building or denomination but us Christ said we are the church we are his temple your video didn’t prove anything
Cause non catholics are just better and follow the standard
Nah.
@@wrestling46nerd yea
Which of the 33+k standards are you referring to?
Dude please do research on other denominations🤦♂️
This is not a good explanation unless you believe that all Christians from other traditions e.g. Protestants, Eastern Orthodox, etc... are not going to be acknowledged by Jesus now or when he returns. To follow this logic, you must believe that anyone outside of the Roman Catholic church is not "saved" and is going to hell. Catholics can't have it both ways.
This is not what the Bible says lol
sigma
Lol
This is GATEKEEPING. If Christ meant literally as you say, “unless you eat the flesh of he Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.” And that it WASN’T symbolic, then you are depriving people of what they need to be alive in Christ; Christ said his gifts are free for all to receive, what about excommunication as well? The magisterium does not have the authority to decide who can receive the Eucharist or be Baptized in the Holy Spirit, only god can choose that, and the judgement hasn’t yet come. “Woe to Pharisees…you blind guides, straining out a gnat while swallowing a camel.” Matthew 23:23-24
We are all free to believe in the True Presence of the Lord. Remember when Christ taught this, many left and rejected him.
@@kevinbenitez635 I reject the claims of authority the magisterium makes. I accept Christ truly. I read my Bible and am well drilled in my faith. I pray daily, multiple times, and appear in church more often then not, and yet under Catholic theology, because I disagree with your pope, I’m bound for hell. Being a Catholic is about doctrine, being a Christian is about faith.
@@CptDawner Christ also said that "whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord" in 1 Corinthians 11:27. Only people themselves can deprive themselves of the eucharist.
@@CptDawner they are not claims of authority if Christ himself appointed Peter and his apostles and their successors the authority to bind and loose on earth for the church. You also heavily misunderstand catholic theology if you think the Pope is some sort of autocrat whose every whim you must obey. You also say that being christian is not about doctrine, but you would rather reject Christ's church and make your own doctrine from your private interpretation of scripture
@@redace6951 Christ did not appoint Peter as pope, this is a lie. That verse from Matthew was regarded by a majority of the early church fathers to mean that the CONFESSION that Peter gave was the rock, and his renaming didn’t signal a position of authority, but rather a symbolic recognition of his confession. Peter was not regarded as a the sole leader of the church by the other apostles, during the council of Jerusalem Peter speaks only twice, and isn’t even the one to deliver the verdict of the meeting or even give the conclusion statement. Rather, it was the bishop of Jerusalem: James, Brother of Jesus, which allows us to conclude that the authority was spread among the bishops, as they were equals, not that there was one ruling over, and providing guidance to all. They received their guidance from the New Testament oral tradition that had existed since Jesus’ ascension. Paul even corroborated what I’m saying when he wrote Galatians. Look at verse 1:8 if you don’t believe me. The idea of Rome being the head of the church didn’t arise until around the collapse of the Roman Empire in the 400’s AD. The Bishop of Rome used the power vacuum of the collapse to ingratiate himself with the new Italian barbarian kings, and defined a now, Roman superiority doctrine that hadn’t existed before his time. The abuses perpetrated by the magisterium since have been vile, and thoroughly against the Christian doctrine as taught by Jesus and the Apostles. I do not recognize any council after the 400’s AD, and do not recognize the magisteriums claims of authority. They are not biblical, and in fact Christ himself would chastise them, as currently the institutions of the Catholic Church resemble closely the ones of the Sanhedrin, which Christ rebukes the practices of constantly, as well as the traditions they held which came from man, and not god.
Again wrong. For two reasons. We do have our communion where we receive the bread and wine. Then we do our vows and then we affirm: this is the body of christ, this is the blood of christ.
Why don't anyone understand that religion was created to divide people and it is doing that job very perfectly we shall leave all the religions and focus on only spiritual awakening just like Buddha did I am not talking about Buddhism I am talking about the route Buddha took for spiritual awakening that is true faith of humankind
It's a matter of truth, if what Jesus Christ claimed you have to follow him because all the other ways lead to dead. If that's truth religion is no use for anything if you're already going to hell, like we all are. That is why God made himself a man and died for our sins so we can have eternal life and don't perish.
The Catholic Faith teaches us the Truths that we need to be united to the LORD and each other.
There is no division in that.
@@oliverneftaliandradeayala8504 the gods never intended us to live and eternal life the sole purpose of our life is to enhance spiritually over the years there is no such thing as hell or heaven you just take rebirth into a new body and that's all by spiritually awakening you break that cycle you become one with the
SHE by becoming one with her you don't have to take rebirth look beyond Jesus Christ look beyond every single God look beyond the lies of the religion if you want to debate we can
shut up you have no idea what you are talking about you aren't any expert just some random guy who has no understanding of theology, philosophy or history
@@PatrickSteil see you are saying "catholic faith" there is a religion in everything now we shall look beyond that. That faith is useless because the divine consciousness has just given birth to you and after death you will take a rebirth and then the cycle will continue until you spiritually awaken, by spiritual awakening you break that cycle you become one with the divine consciousness in that divine consciousness is SHE
Not every none catholic is not a Christian and not every christian is a catholic
Amen