Quite similar to when Season of Mastery was struggling. Classic players will prefer, well, classic over every other version of the game and thus always have a potential comeback time
I think they should do fresh every 12-18months. Man, It's like a drug. You got more of that fresh? I LOVE the journey, the gearing and then putting your work to use in raid/pvp and BG's
I've also been playing. Quit wow after mist. Came back for Classic relaunch. Skipped tbc(most played originally) Came back for wrath until they added micro transactions. Played a tiny bit of sod... Didn't vibe with it. Came back for this movement. Really looking forward to a classic relaunch.
They overdid it for sure. I feel like phase 1 had enough runes to span the entirety of SoD and adding more was going to seriously change classic, seems that’s exactly what happened, world of proccraft
I feel exactly the same. Got a video coming in the near future breaking that exact statement down into why it feels more like retail aswell. SoD was so fun at the start but lost alot of it's charm (in my opinion)
Hardcore servers are also popping off. Much more of a community feeling and tons of people leveling. No GDKP or boosts. Great place to level up...carefully ;)
Everyone! Join Mankirk it's a classic era cluster realm. Lots of raids popping. Dungeon groups at all levels. Join us this is your sign to come back to classic!
Sooo I never left Classic Era. After the TBC split, I actually stayed, with my guild which was a small number of players. Throughout the years we've experienced the ups and downs, and the re-emergence and the decline of player populations. Now though, for the last year or so the pop on classic era has been steady. People ranking, guilds progressing and clearing raids, leveling guilds, duels outside org. Overall the population is in a good place.
classic era has steadily gotten more and more players over time, i was a day one era player tbc wasnt for me, theses are get servers to have a character to chill on over a long period of time that you can always come back too.
fresh is just everyone is back to level 1 right? why do fresh people need everyone else to lose all progress? just create a new character. fresh means the deletion of all progress for other players and its a terrible idea
i REALLY want to play era but the economy is in absolute ruin making it so hard for a new player to find a way in without buying gold... we need a fresh
Ive wanted this ever since WRATH was ending 😂😂😂 im so in!! This is the best news ive heaard since …well the last time classic launched lol. I prolly wont rven go back to SoD bc of this. I’m rolling fresh.
boost are destroing the leveling experience and the comunity that wants to level the normal way since you cant find enough ppl who want to level the normal way
Yea I agree. Raw gold farming was after 1-2 months dead in 2019 too. Herbing/Mining was almost instantly better than raw gold. Bots will make it useless to farm raw gold even on a fresh. I like it way more to have every raid available at the start too. Vanilla does not make older raids useless. MC is good for Thunderfury, BWL is good dft/tear, ZG alot go for the mounts, Ony is popular for the world buff, AQ40/Naxx most people need items too. The gearing in vanilla is designed to take ages if you are not loot counciling all items to you.
My biggest issue with SoD is leveling too quickly. You get over leveled so quickly that you have to skip quest lines just to stay level relevant with quests. I understand this is great for players that just want to level quickly and move on to the end game.l content. I wish it was optional to have the Discovery boost and still try out the DoS content.
People will always come bak to classic. Its the hero's journey before it all gets out of hand. All blizz need to do is keep adding to it, new zones/quests, bgs, tweak/add classes etc. Even slow the xp rate to sustain the ride. Or just go for wow2
If you're not bothered about world PvP the PvE servers are also pretty popular. The EU PvE cluster has a great community with no GDKPs, very little boosting and plenty of guilds progressing through content.
@@TheWowzz Atleast 4 Pugs per week for every raid on both factions (ZG/AQ20/Ony even more). Alot of english and non english speaking guilds, mostly every language has a guild. (Germans with like 4-5 on each faction have the most tho) English speaking guilds are of course the biggest ones. GDKP's are no problem just get the Ignore List addon that hides GDKP messages and you will not even notice them anymore because there are enough pugs and guild runs. Alot of people are leveling right now. On prime times you get a group for every dungeon in 15-30min. As a tank instantly. The market is stable too. You will always get stuff sold over night (materials etc) Money sinks like a epic mount are easier to get now (down or upside depending on you). Usually if you keep up your mining/herbing you will have around 1.2k gold at 60 if you level alot in the open world. Bots are less broken compared to 2019. They cant teleport or noclip anymore and "only" running around on mounts. So you will get black lotuses/arcane crystals easier. But its not perfect of course. I see meaby 1-2 in each zone that has big thoriums/black lotuses its way better compared to 2019/20 Chronoboons fixed world buffs and there is way less raid logging. The world feels 10x more alive because you can save your world buffs and can still play whenever you want without loosing them. Thats it I hope I could give you the infos you wanted ^^
Hahaha the hair comment is gold :D 3/8 Rot Blossom triggering me aswell, gonna go finish it next play session, hate leaving mid-quest (Don't look at The Night Watch progression, thats even more triggering!)
It has only lowbies because that's the server blizzard locked. Deviate delight is the official fresh server and can only create fresh characters on that server.
Can't agree Solheim. I get groups for low level dungeons in 15-30 mins as a tank instantly. There are 4-5 Pugs for every raid on both factions every week. Guild runs alot more. The economy if fine GDKP's are not even noticable if you get a addon that hides the GDKP messages. There are more than enough PUG's / Guild runs.
Bro, the inflation is gr8! x2 respecs & 5 chronoboons every week was 3-4 hour gold farm Now its 30-60 minutes doing the same kind of farms Regular & Epic mount is more easly obtatinable for new players Before you farmed 1h for 60g and bought a flask Now you farm 1h for 200g and buy a flask There is litterally no downside. Beside if you farmed a lot of gold before the inflation. Then it obvious devalued. But besides that, it's Gr8 because every gold sink isn't as much as a gold sink as before!
I agree. Don't see much downsides. People just want to level alts normally, boosters having problems finding enough people to boost. I see less and less boosting ads in LFG. On a fresh boosting would boom again because everyone gets fomo.
The reason ppl like era(over the fresh/sod) is because its the loud minority that dont want gdkps, evidently most ppl like it, otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. As a gamerdad (and allot of era/classic andys are gamerdads)who cant follow a raid schuedule , i love gdkps, i can get into naxx with my t3 priest without beeing in a raiding guild. The problem is not gdkps , the problem is blizzard not policing their own game. Silly to tell people how to play because they cant ban the gold sellers/buyers.
it's so crazy, people are so damn greedy and will knowingly ruin the economy for short term pleasure of having more gold than others on a game that won't last for a few years. I would really be curious what would happen if they lowered the gold cap by a lot
@@ScryerTV inflation so high new/casual players cannot participate. people with decades of experience just race to cap, meta everything to control the economy, then sit ontop of the pile of shit that they've helped create until it completely dies out. then people who run gdkp's gatekeep and hoard gold to screw the economy. bots farm ore/herbs faster than a new player on a slow mount so they can't effectively farm materials for income. experienced players get all the profession recipes faster and new players can't compete for income. the game is better because of diverse playerbase. people hoarding, controlling, gatekeeping, and manipulating the markets take the fun out of it for new players so they go somewhere else. it's not a healthy ecosystem. just like a pond with big fish that eat all the little ones, they eventually starve because of their own greed. I played in original vanilla/tbc, there were people with lots of gold but they weren't as toxic as players these days
@@olov244 High inflation is a good thing for new / casual players. If the prices are high, it's way quicker to farm your regular and epic mount. It's also ALOT faster to farm ur 100g for 2x respec and chronoboons (Gold sinks) If you farm materials and sell, like before inflation. After a hour of farming, you're able to buy exactly the same as before. As EVERYTHING have gone up in price. You farmed 60g in 1h to buy a flask before You now farm 200g in 1h to buy a flask That there's a group of ppl that do GDKP and pay 100k for a item doesn't affect you AT ALL if you just join one of the many regular guilds and raid as usual every week. There is litterally no downside for average joe, only upside. You dont, the average joe dont need hundered of thousand of gold to raid or do naxx. They have to farm consumes as the same rate as before. But now it's quicker as they alrdy got their mount, respec cost is lower and chronoboon is "cheaper". No?
ive canceled my EU acount and open up another on US. well see how long the people will play on the " fresh " NA movement, since even now it is very hard to find a dungeon group............. :((
Wow classic progression to Wrath of the lichking plus. A whole restart with fresh servers and no fucking micro transactions (maybe aside limited cosmetics at a push) wishful thinking ik
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I would love if they just did fresh vanilla to wrath again
no u wont u will cry and cry and cry
mom i promise no crying
SAME!
cant stand bc or wrath leveling
Yes, this, but with no gdkp, no boost and ban the bots. I know, I know, no chance but I like dreaming. 😂
Quite similar to when Season of Mastery was struggling. Classic players will prefer, well, classic over every other version of the game and thus always have a potential comeback time
I think they should do fresh every 12-18months. Man, It's like a drug. You got more of that fresh? I LOVE the journey, the gearing and then putting your work to use in raid/pvp and BG's
junkies
@@antonkokic yeah lets rather play stuff like League/CS2 or other competetive games and lose our minds good idea
I've also been playing.
Quit wow after mist.
Came back for Classic relaunch.
Skipped tbc(most played originally)
Came back for wrath until they added micro transactions.
Played a tiny bit of sod... Didn't vibe with it.
Came back for this movement.
Really looking forward to a classic relaunch.
There wont be a classic relaunch
With every phase SoD feels more and more like retail to me.
100 %
feels like ascension gabo
They overdid it for sure. I feel like phase 1 had enough runes to span the entirety of SoD and adding more was going to seriously change classic, seems that’s exactly what happened, world of proccraft
I feel exactly the same. Got a video coming in the near future breaking that exact statement down into why it feels more like retail aswell. SoD was so fun at the start but lost alot of it's charm (in my opinion)
thats because yall suck at the game lol
Hardcore servers are also popping off. Much more of a community feeling and tons of people leveling. No GDKP or boosts. Great place to level up...carefully ;)
and the best experience raiding
Everyone! Join Mankirk it's a classic era cluster realm. Lots of raids popping. Dungeon groups at all levels. Join us this is your sign to come back to classic!
Sooo I never left Classic Era. After the TBC split, I actually stayed, with my guild which was a small number of players.
Throughout the years we've experienced the ups and downs, and the re-emergence and the decline of player populations.
Now though, for the last year or so the pop on classic era has been steady. People ranking, guilds progressing and clearing raids, leveling guilds, duels outside org.
Overall the population is in a good place.
classic era has steadily gotten more and more players over time, i was a day one era player tbc wasnt for me, theses are get servers to have a character to chill on over a long period of time that you can always come back too.
100%, got my 60 rogue on whitemane now i will be able to play on and off for years :P
classic era has been building for months now, looks like its just about to blow up again
Do you think we Will get a fresh official server in the near future?
Deviate delight is just that
fresh is just everyone is back to level 1 right? why do fresh people need everyone else to lose all progress? just create a new character. fresh means the deletion of all progress for other players and its a terrible idea
@@shiiswii4136 are you slow? Its a fresh server With fresh progression. It makes all the difference in the World.
I’m on classic Agathema and it’s super popular!! Lots of players , it’s inspiring .
Love to see the love for Era Solheim!
i REALLY want to play era but the economy is in absolute ruin making it so hard for a new player to find a way in without buying gold... we need a fresh
How is the economy ruined?
@@ScryerTV its common to have hundreds of thousands of gold lol and you can buy thousands of gold for really cheap
@@snuggles3277 so?
black lotus was 400g + on firemaw in 2020
Ive wanted this ever since WRATH was ending 😂😂😂 im so in!! This is the best news ive heaard since …well the last time classic launched lol. I prolly wont rven go back to SoD bc of this. I’m rolling fresh.
boost are destroing the leveling experience and the comunity that wants to level the normal way since you cant find enough ppl who want to level the normal way
you can still quest just fine as a solo
This is the reason i left SoD. Road to max lvl is my favorite part.
Everything is more expensive looking at it but u can make gold in the pace
Yea I agree. Raw gold farming was after 1-2 months dead in 2019 too. Herbing/Mining was almost instantly better than raw gold. Bots will make it useless to farm raw gold even on a fresh.
I like it way more to have every raid available at the start too. Vanilla does not make older raids useless. MC is good for Thunderfury, BWL is good dft/tear, ZG alot go for the mounts, Ony is popular for the world buff, AQ40/Naxx most people need items too. The gearing in vanilla is designed to take ages if you are not loot counciling all items to you.
i have been playing classic era since tbc was out and i was alone on classic era for many years :D
I thought blizz banned GDKPs?
The video looks great. GZ on the new rig.
My biggest issue with SoD is leveling too quickly. You get over leveled so quickly that you have to skip quest lines just to stay level relevant with quests. I understand this is great for players that just want to level quickly and move on to the end game.l content. I wish it was optional to have the Discovery boost and still try out the DoS content.
Tbh Era has been popping for awhile now, even at lower levels
Wasent ERA popping off months ago? Now its declining if anything?
Lol what a failure sod has turned out to be if people end up reject it for the original game
people stopped playing Hardcore when it came out to play Era so same can be said there.
Looking forward to that holy nova best goldfarm video. :D Priest best class!
Priest Holy Nova FTW!
Afk lvl 60 and sod lvl 50 differeny ppl still farming doing prequest gathering leveling alt copare them when level 60 hits
Yep, Back when fresh released I had no time to play.... Now I have lots of time to play there is no fresh.. LETS GOOO
People will always come bak to classic. Its the hero's journey before it all gets out of hand. All blizz need to do is keep adding to it, new zones/quests, bgs, tweak/add classes etc. Even slow the xp rate to sustain the ride. Or just go for wow2
If you're not bothered about world PvP the PvE servers are also pretty popular. The EU PvE cluster has a great community with no GDKPs, very little boosting and plenty of guilds progressing through content.
FIREMAW exploding and i love it 🥳
How is it? I got the vanilla itch again and i have 2 60s there. Is it possible to find groups etc ?
@@TheWowzz Atleast 4 Pugs per week for every raid on both factions (ZG/AQ20/Ony even more).
Alot of english and non english speaking guilds, mostly every language has a guild. (Germans with like 4-5 on each faction have the most tho) English speaking guilds are of course the biggest ones.
GDKP's are no problem just get the Ignore List addon that hides GDKP messages and you will not even notice them anymore because there are enough pugs and guild runs.
Alot of people are leveling right now. On prime times you get a group for every dungeon in 15-30min. As a tank instantly.
The market is stable too. You will always get stuff sold over night (materials etc)
Money sinks like a epic mount are easier to get now (down or upside depending on you). Usually if you keep up your mining/herbing you will have around 1.2k gold at 60 if you level alot in the open world.
Bots are less broken compared to 2019. They cant teleport or noclip anymore and "only" running around on mounts.
So you will get black lotuses/arcane crystals easier. But its not perfect of course. I see meaby 1-2 in each zone that has big thoriums/black lotuses its way better compared to 2019/20
Chronoboons fixed world buffs and there is way less raid logging. The world feels 10x more alive because you can save your world buffs and can still play whenever you want without loosing them.
Thats it I hope I could give you the infos you wanted ^^
@@TheWowzzdefinetly 👌🏻
What is the addon you are using to track your level speeds? Or WA? anyone know?
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They really should make era tbc and wotlk.
You actually did your hair in this video, that is concerning, are u ok?.
Also that 3/8 Rot Blossom i triggering my OCD, go finish that quest now :p
Hahaha the hair comment is gold :D
3/8 Rot Blossom triggering me aswell, gonna go finish it next play session, hate leaving mid-quest (Don't look at The Night Watch progression, thats even more triggering!)
I take it this is EU?
Deviate Delight has way more lowbies NA
It has only lowbies because that's the server blizzard locked. Deviate delight is the official fresh server and can only create fresh characters on that server.
What server so you play? :D
Gz on the new PC mate keep up the great content!
Can't agree Solheim.
I get groups for low level dungeons in 15-30 mins as a tank instantly.
There are 4-5 Pugs for every raid on both factions every week. Guild runs alot more.
The economy if fine GDKP's are not even noticable if you get a addon that hides the GDKP messages. There are more than enough PUG's / Guild runs.
the servers was never really dead
yeah Whitemane is the same, it's always been poppin (at least since the first time people came back to classic)
Ok but why do you sound like a very distinguished gentleman?
Bro, the inflation is gr8!
x2 respecs & 5 chronoboons every week was 3-4 hour gold farm
Now its 30-60 minutes doing the same kind of farms
Regular & Epic mount is more easly obtatinable for new players
Before you farmed 1h for 60g and bought a flask
Now you farm 1h for 200g and buy a flask
There is litterally no downside. Beside if you farmed a lot of gold before the inflation. Then it obvious devalued. But besides that, it's Gr8 because every gold sink isn't as much as a gold sink as before!
I agree. Don't see much downsides.
People just want to level alts normally, boosters having problems finding enough people to boost. I see less and less boosting ads in LFG. On a fresh boosting would boom again because everyone gets fomo.
Cata Classic was so boring it made me quit after one month. I think I'll just try Era again.
The reason ppl like era(over the fresh/sod) is because its the loud minority that dont want gdkps, evidently most ppl like it, otherwise it wouldnt be so popular. As a gamerdad (and allot of era/classic andys are gamerdads)who cant follow a raid schuedule , i love gdkps, i can get into naxx with my t3 priest without beeing in a raiding guild.
The problem is not gdkps , the problem is blizzard not policing their own game. Silly to tell people how to play because they cant ban the gold sellers/buyers.
would like to come back to era but 40man and 20man raids, ffs
Glad to see Era getting more players but I don’t see it holding after P4
P4 will die in a week lmao, shits not even vanilla its retail
@@TheWowzz cope, you don’t know what retail is
@@CatDad09 you keep your mouth shut , do you understand ?
Feels like a waste to invest in classic era I’m still waiting for tbc re release I also wasn’t biggest vanilla fan tbc better
tbc was mid
tbc was already re released it was called tbc classic
Is it only a PvP server that is alive? I'd come back but being ganked by rogues all the time is not fun for me :D
It does… but it makes the game more fun even though it can get frusturating
war is in the title of the game, go play hello kitty island adventure
Classic Era was never "gone" however its absolutely FILLED with GDKPs and overprices items on AH.
how much is free action potion as example?
@@Fropxy have not checked in a while but was 50 silver at the start and then went to 3g and was around 5g a potion when i last played
@@TheLazySpoiledKitty ty
i wonder how bgs are doing
yeah bgs you're facing the whitemane era full nax bis players. so pointless, private servers are so much better.
it's so crazy, people are so damn greedy and will knowingly ruin the economy for short term pleasure of having more gold than others on a game that won't last for a few years. I would really be curious what would happen if they lowered the gold cap by a lot
How is the economy ruined?
@@ScryerTV inflation so high new/casual players cannot participate. people with decades of experience just race to cap, meta everything to control the economy, then sit ontop of the pile of shit that they've helped create until it completely dies out. then people who run gdkp's gatekeep and hoard gold to screw the economy. bots farm ore/herbs faster than a new player on a slow mount so they can't effectively farm materials for income. experienced players get all the profession recipes faster and new players can't compete for income. the game is better because of diverse playerbase. people hoarding, controlling, gatekeeping, and manipulating the markets take the fun out of it for new players so they go somewhere else. it's not a healthy ecosystem. just like a pond with big fish that eat all the little ones, they eventually starve because of their own greed. I played in original vanilla/tbc, there were people with lots of gold but they weren't as toxic as players these days
@@olov244 High inflation is a good thing for new / casual players.
If the prices are high, it's way quicker to farm your regular and epic mount. It's also ALOT faster to farm ur 100g for 2x respec and chronoboons (Gold sinks)
If you farm materials and sell, like before inflation. After a hour of farming, you're able to buy exactly the same as before. As EVERYTHING have gone up in price.
You farmed 60g in 1h to buy a flask before
You now farm 200g in 1h to buy a flask
That there's a group of ppl that do GDKP and pay 100k for a item doesn't affect you AT ALL if you just join one of the many regular guilds and raid as usual every week.
There is litterally no downside for average joe, only upside.
You dont, the average joe dont need hundered of thousand of gold to raid or do naxx. They have to farm consumes as the same rate as before. But now it's quicker as they alrdy got their mount, respec cost is lower and chronoboon is "cheaper". No?
@@olov244unfortunately this is all of gaming in 2024. Adapt to it or just dont play. Survival of the fittest homie.
gdkp and bots ruin the game
gonna happen on every version of the game.
Are you poor?
I wish they would make a fresh server
They did. It’s deviate delight
No ty gdkp
leveling? what?
mostly they are baby bots. lmao
Are there any fresh servers in NA?
zandalar tribe in EU seems pretty dead still. Not even coming close to the NA fresh server movment.
ive canceled my EU acount and open up another on US. well see how long the people will play on the " fresh " NA movement, since even now it is very hard to find a dungeon group............. :((
Wow classic progression to Wrath of the lichking plus. A whole restart with fresh servers and no fucking micro transactions (maybe aside limited cosmetics at a push) wishful thinking ik
they just should make classic plus or make lvling faster on classic era i couldnt fathom lvling another 60
is this private server?
I would only come back for fresh with no gdkp. No chance i play this shit and pay for it lol. I play d4, hades and good single Player.
i exit in these video with my priest lol xD
Go private server guys, like Turtle Wow. Population much bigger, no boosts, no gold buying, no scummy blizzars, no sub.
everlook starfall fresh is 10000000 times better
No one cares!!!
with 100000000000 less players
@@Super_Burrito lol it has plenty of players, and everyone isn't in bis nax gear the world is alive.
They need to add personal loot to era and itd be perfect .
no
No
hahahaha after 19231283217381273 heroes still u go to play this O_o ?! freak
Then the twitch streamers take a break and the realm pop drops back to 1