2001 SLP 10th Anniv. Firehawk and SLP Camaro SS | Retro Review
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2022
- The SLP magic continues into the new millennium with these 2001 SLP modified F-Bodies.
Show 2021 | Original Airdate 01-17-2001
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Man, I miss Pontiac. Imagine how cool the T/A could've been with today's technology. Imagine a WS6 along the lines of the ZL1 or that amazing Z28 GM put out a few years ago.
Or the sleeper sedan G8. if it was still being made I'd imagine it on the caddy Blackwing platform with all the power but knock a quarter of the price off.
Id rather have Pontiac than Buick still around. That 6.0GTO that came out in the 2000s wasnt too bad. Bring it back!
I know it's sad I would have bought a "5th" gen in a heart beat. The 4th gen has such sexy curves I'm especially fond of the 93-97 bodies formulas
Look up Trams Am Depot of Florida! They are you tube They Produce Trans Am Firebird with LS7 & They do Twin Turbo Stick shift transmission if you want & Supercharging LS7
Trans Am Depot Company has done a nice job with creating a modern Firebird from modifying a Camaro SS inside & out!
I wish Pontiac was still around. GM held that division back so much that it backfired on them when they needed that Bail Out money from Uncle Sam. I still remember being shocked when hearing about GM Permanently Shutting Down the Pontiac Division. I was sad about Oldsmobile but understood it. I wasn't surprised at the rest either, Saab, Saturn were given a good start but lost their identity within the GM Parts Bin as time passed. There were a few more divisions that were money pits and I thought for sure Buick was one of them even though it was their 3800 Supercharged V6 Engine that helped Pontiac sell cars. That's when I found out that Buick sold more vehicles overseas (China) than Pontiac sold in the States.
I wish it was possible for Pontiac to return. Pontiac was never allowed to compete with Chevrolet. They could never have their own version of the Corvette. The Fiero was supposed to be the start in that direction but man did ol GM Kick em in the balls on that attempt.
I had an 87 Fiero GT and I dropped a 3800 series 2 Supercharged drive train in it along with some other small mods and that car was fun to whip around... it was cramped for interior space but that car handled great. Still the cheapest & easiest restoration project for beginners available.
This car has a T56 6-speed, not a 5 speed.
I was so confused when they said 5 speed😂
I thought the same
I'm sure they'll go back in time to correct their 90s video now that you've pointed that out
Yeah, he clearly misspoke…as he’s saying it, you can see there are 6 forward gears. ⚙️
The older they get, the cooler the catfish becomes
Agreed
Thanks! 😎
Catfish 4life lol
@@billymz28 😎
I've owned 3 of them so far and looking for a 4th lol never get tired of those cars
Both are sharp, although I think I’d take the Firehawk
Can't go wrong either way!
These will continue to rise in value.
No doubt!
yep. i sold my 2002 Sunset Orange Z28 this last october for $15k. 132k miles, 6 speed, full bolt ons, cam, center mount exhaust, SS Spoiler, VFN Sunoco hood, Billet Specialties Street lite wheels. Bought it 8-9 years prior for $7500... Wanted something different and decided to move on from it
@@Co1eTrain84 sounds like a sweet build man
4:56 I've never seen a 4th gen window go up that fast 😳
😂
Lmao, one and done
😂
LMAO - relay mod haha
True statement 😂
Let's put it this way, the 4th Gen F Bodies, that's what these cars are, is styled much cooler than 5Th Gen Camaro, which looks chunky and upright. The 4Th Gen cars are low and sleek like a fighter jet! What car mags said at the time, and I know because I rode in a friend's 1994 Formula!😁🤟😄
Truth!
Hated the new gen Camaro since the 1st look. Holding on to my 01 Z28 and 02 Ws6. They still turn heads.
For some odd reason, I like the 92 SLP Firehawk Firebird. Those 5 spoke wheels really set it off.
Thats what I always remembered was the rims, the were painted inside the spoke. How I found my Firehawk was I saw the 5-spoke wheel , and I imm knew, and sure enough it was a Firehawk which I own!
@@ADR.Hi-Gain yeah, I like those 5 spoke wheels on the first gen Firehawk. Simple, clean design. You can get reproduction versions nowadays.
Ahhh. Cars I wish I could buy new today. Even though they were not built the best, they were very sinister cars, and about the best value for performance out there. I miss Pontiac.
F-Bodies will forever be my favorite cars
Yes 😎👍
Mine too
Yep.
27k and 33k for the top of the line models was a steal. I realize it was over 20 years ago.
Even 20 years it was a great deal for the amount of performance you get.
@@mikea5205 Low Milage Excellent Condition ones going over $50,000.00 -$60,000.00
That's $53,000 in 2022 dollars. They were fast for the day but built on a chassis that debuted in 1982, had numerous cost cutting measures in suspension, cooling, and brakes, and relatively spartan inside. Compare that with what the modern versions are offering at pricing in the mid $40ks. Msrp on a ZL1 is only $63k.
@@blackrat1228 - very valid point. With that said we get a lot more for our money these days.
As an owner of a 2002 Camaro SS, thanks for posting this.
4th gen is best looking F body.
In it's run it dominated the Mustang in performance.
Last REAL F body
The thirdgen was the best f body looking . The 4th gen is nice but it’s really the engine that people want
02 SS here as well!
@@camarochevrolet9387 for me the 2nd gens are the best looking F body followed by 1st then 4th then 3rd. But I love them all. GM knocked it out of the park every time with the styling on those cars. Only exception is the 4th gen Camaros, never really cared for their look.
Yes, until The Terminator came out in 03/04.
@@camarochevrolet9387 Right. GM finally allowed a manual trans with the 5.7 in the 4th gen which was a rediculous restriction in the timeless looking 3rd gens. And obviously the drivetrains got better too :)
Too bad they never put the LS6 in the last year 2002 as special edition. There was talk but never happened
I bought a low mile mint 94 Z28 2 years ogo. Never winter driven, senior owned. T-tops full load. Like new. Such a great car to own. The LT1 is under rated and sounds great in factory trim. Love these 4th gen F bodies.
The lt1 seemed to be more torqey off the line. But I could be wrong, I have owned both.
Love me a SLP Firehawk
SLP= Sick Looking Pontiac 🔥
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:)
I remember those late gen WS6 were crazy popular.
Pontiac Firehawk, very nice car especially in black.
Bring Pontiac back! So much potential in that brand.
*It’s been 13 years since Pontiac died but it still hurts.*
I'm glad someone out there liked my comments!😁😀
SLP Pontiac Firehawk = SICK!!!
I’m sorry John, but I believe the 01 FireHawk is a 6 speed car, not a 5 speed. In fact I believe even in this very video if you look closely I think I can see the 6 speed pattern on the shifter bezel when the interior is shown. But it should have a Tremec 6 speed and an LS1 combo in 2001z
That's what I thought.... He did have me questioning myself.
I remember seeing one new at a dealership about 20 years ago and it having a 6 speed.
I did catch that mistake. The 4th generation V8 F Bodies had 6 speed manuals. There was a 5 speed manual available in that generation but it was only offered on the V6 engines.
Yeah the writer screwed up the script on that one!
It was just a simple mistake . He is driven plenty of t56s on this show alone. Surprised that quality control just let it slide tho
The 6 speed with the famous skip shift feature, which people bypassed.
As time goes by these cars looks better and better. 🔥❤️
Thanks! 👌
@@bhcamaro2002 you're welcome and it's true. 🙂
2 of the greatest cars ever made!
Yes!
I had 01 slp ss and ran 13.3 with no mods. Later installed a vigilante stall and was running 12.7’s with no other mods.
On my 3rd 4th gen SS. And glad to be back in one. My vette just never felt like it was me even after fully built
Nice man welcome back!
I miss when they would have SLP day at Milan Dragway as a teen, I remember seeing those cars new.
That sounds like fun times
Knowing now as a middle aged adult, that GM underrated the LS1, SLP could have just mostly been an appearance package and exhaust
This is true, although these cars go even faster with the right driver behind the wheel
01 Z28 with only catback and SLP air box, ran 13.3 and then 13.4s consistently
I had a 2002 SS Camaro and also a 1995, both 6 speeds. I wish I still had either. They were the reason behind the Ford Cobra, cause the GT couldn't hang with the GM! Lol
Exactly man! 😂
I remember getting drug down the quarter mile drag strip by these in my 95 GT MUTANG 5.0 😂
@My Pronoun is WTF lol I had roller rockers cam intake headers and the best run I got before my t5 trans flew apart was 14.2 @98 mph.. 🤣🤣🤣 those ta s would run low 12 high 11 with slicks and a kn filter
Don't feel too bad, mustangs did pretty good considering it was a 5.0 vs GMs 5.7. The Saleen models were pretty cool too but those LS f bodies were tough💪
I find it interesting when the phrase, “the aging F body,” is part of the piece. It was a great version of the F body, but by 2001 it was clear it was a little behind the times.
it was actually
But people won't dare say the same about the Dodge Charger, for whatever reason
Performance wise they were a decade ahead of their time. mid-high 12s totally stock was insane by early 2000s standards.
@@SpeedDemon88X Up until the Coyote. It took a forced induction Mustang to hang with a H/C LS1 F-body.
@@zacharyrussell6983 agreed, the 03/04 Cobra ran very similar to stock LS1 cars and the first gen Coyotes in 2011 also ran similar. Way ahead of their time for sure.
It's the budget corvette Mustang killer
The Firehawk looked so much better
This was a great era of cars both import and domestic
That's true!
Man I miss the 2000s
Same here
My dad bought a used 00’ silver camaro ss in 04’, he decked it out with all the SLP parts. Was a beast. He had to sell it when the recession hit.
Damn that's unfortunate
I saw a SLP 10th Anniversary of the Firehawk Trans-Am in January!
My dad had a F Body Camaro in Green convertible he drove it to Mazatlan Sinaloa from Draper Utah in 2001 his stability bar went out and he stopped in a very small town in Mexico and a mechanic welded it for him in one of those holes in the ground that lets you see the under carriage of the car lol. When he was in Mazatlan he remembers a little girl asking him “Is that a power ranger car?” Imagine having a Camaro in Mexico that’s not more than 5 years old.
Best compliment ever from a kid!
Loved my 98 Z28, but swapped it for a 2005 GTO nearly 15 years ago, don't miss the Camaro one bit! The SLP cars are still sweet tho!
Your 98 Z -28 doesn’t miss you either.
@@1997SScamaroNOS bet the z28 would've smoked the gto 😎
If they ever made a Smokey and the Bandit 4, the Firehawk TOTALLY would’ve been Burt’s ride.
People forget the it wasn't just Mustang v Camero but also the Pontiac Firebird Trans am
Check out Trams Am Depot on You Tube ! They did a Limited Production of The Car Burt Reynolds was there ! They make Trans Am up to1,200 Horsepower! Supercharging& Turbo & Stick Shift to your order !
The 4th gen F bodies had 6 not 5 speeds
Yeah, the shift pattern next to the stick in that firebird was clearly a six-speed, I was confused
Yup your right
I guess I should clarify V8 4th Gen F bodies
The 4th generation F Bodies did have a 5 speed but it was on the base V6 models only. The 6 speeds were reserved for the V8's.
Just think. These where super rare, and super fast for their times
The Pontiac products were ALWAYS a little quicker and faster than the Chevy brother, the Ram Air hoods superior airflow is to thank for that😳…….I loved my WS6 trans am! 🤷🏽♂️
SS hood worked as well, the one in the video is older than 2001 probably why it had a little less hp
@@bhcamaro2002 SS had a functional hood from 96-02. The two vehicles in this video should have identical performance if ordered with the same optional equipment.
If anything I'd think the camaro would be a hair quicker with the Pontiac's additional bodywork adding a bit more weight
Love the 10th Firehawks. SLP should have done it in 2002 instead since that was the last year of the Firebird and more collectors/enthusiasts waited until then which reduced the sales of the 2001 Firehawks. It would have been the best combo - last year of the Firebird + anniversary Firehawk so the last and best. I certainly would have bought one but I ended up waiting until the last year. Even though a few 1991 Formulas were made into Firehawks, 1992 was pretty much the 1st year you could get a Firehawk.
Love Motorweek since the 80s!
Yeah the last thing Pontiac did was the collector's edition trans am in yellow
@@bhcamaro2002 Right I know and likely SLP didn't want to compete with it so they released their special version in 2001 instead of waiting until 2002. Even still, a lot less 2002 Firehawks were produced than the 2002 yellow Collectors's Edition.
And far less 2001 10th Anniv Firehawks were made than either :)
Exactly they're rare for sure!
6sd manual not 5
My highschool dream cars 😍😍😍. Still a dream
Get one!
Man the 4th gen Firebirds are the hottest looking cars ever built. I miss the Firebird. It'd be cool if GM brought it back under the GM brand and on a completely different platform from the soon to be axed Camaro. No more retro muscle cars please. They've outgrown their welcome.
I actually saw one of these Firehawk a couple of years ago otherwise a truly rare sight. Both cars look good, but the Firehawk is nicer. I know this is crazy, but put the Mustang interior in it.
Nice!!
Yes! 😎👍
lmao the retro review is my daily, I really need to apply myself or something
Que da hora 👏👍 amigão 👍👍
For sure!
SLP was founded by Ed Hamberger, whose previous claim to fame was making second rate oil pans. So it was no surprise to any of us in New Jersey that this outfit was "all fluff, no stuff". There WAS an honest to goodness company focused only on making products that REALLY woke up the TPI motors of the time, called MRP (Modified Resource Products). SLP would use their high-powered lawyers, and got MRP to change their name to Performance Resource, but they ultimately had to fold.
I was there, in the late '80s / early '90s, at Raceway Park -- their products were getting trashed. Identical cars with simple bolt-on's were faster than those with their exotic intake manifolds. I vividly remember one rich kid, with an '88 GTA notchback, saying how he was going to take Chuck Jenks (SLP's lead "engineer") home in a body bag, because after all their mods, his car was SLOWER THAN STOCK !
The company was in the right place at the right time, but thankfully anyone with a TPI car back then could turn to Lingenfelter to make their cars truly faster.
💢IM STILL LOOKING FOR THE SLP SPOILER FOR MY 00' BUICK REGAL GS😏
Never seen a hurst edition before
I have been saying for almost a year that Brandi would kill Cody's career. They both seem to have a sense of self-exaggerated importance. I have a trademark application for that term, use at your own risk.
I have a 2002 firehawk
Trans am looks mean in that black anf gold...
You have to put Headers and New Lid without air Spinners on the back!! Then tune it and u have a 12 sec car!!!! Mine was anyway!!!
Slps were 12 second cars anyway as long as you get traction. Especially the Camaro because it’s a little bit lighter
SLP brought the SS back in 1996
The script writer got it wrong! The transmission is a 6 speed, not a 5 speed!
You can tell thats a prototype due to the EGR valve in the ls1 intake and its not an ls6, also all the v8s were all 6 speeds. They need to make sure he knows what hes talking about
You're right man
Nothing Succeed Like Excess
These cars must have been early model '01 cars, or they are actually '00 cars because '01 and '02 LS1 engines came with the LS6 intake and no egr provision.
You are right nice catch
2:04, I thought this generation (especially this late into 4th gen f bodies) came standard with 6 speed manuals....
They did , unless it was a v6
You're right, look closely you'll see 6 on the console
Takes off like a rocket but corners like a dump truck .
I love the Trans Am & Camaro, but I never really liked the FireHawk TA.
I prefer just the normal TA WS6 RamAir.
To me the TA WS6 RamAir looks more aggressive than the FireHawk.
Yeah the higher wing and scoops in the hood look more aggressive
And the Firehawk had a better interior.
SLP Performance Pack for a V6??
Yeah you got some different graphics and it raised the horsepower to 205 instead of 200 lol
2:07 a 5 speed huh?
So what are the differences between the firehawk and the Trans Am?
Trans am had 310
Trans am ws6 325
Fire hawk 1999 327hp 2000 330hp 2002 345hp
As stated above, slightly more horsepower and cosmetic differences. However, the main difference only really popped up after Pontiac ceased to exist as Firehawks go for significantly more money than a base Trans Am. Although, best bang for your buck today would be the WS6. Still very affordable, good bit more power, generally people who got WS6s optioned them out more (what limited options that were available), and you get that sexy red badge on the back.
Edit: this coming from a 98 WS6 owner
@@RollinRetro99 believe those Firehawks were about 4k more than the WS6 back in the day
@@dr.jillalicecooper2587 While it's true that it did make less power, you also have to keep in mind that the 2001 firehawk had been designed to be less exclusive in order to increase sales. The 1991 Firehawk had a cost of over 53k. Which in today's money is over 100k...for an F-body.
@@bhcamaro2002 That sounds about right. That's about 6k today.
I really see no point in these cars after the initial third gen Firebird. I understand that those first cars were really expensive but considering what you got for your money I think it would have been worth it. If you wanted a V8 fourth gen just get a stock car and slap on some headers and and exhaust. That's about all SLP did. Really and truly SLP should have installed the C5 Z06's LS6 heads and cam. A 405hp F-body would've been something in 2001.
They didn't even do headers at slp just a lid and catback, 400 hp at this time was like 1000hp today
I don't think any 01 Firehawk came with a 5 speed transmission, it was a 6 speed t-56.
All the V8's came with a 6 speed. Only the v6 Firebirds and Camaro's had the optional 5 speeds. My brother had a 95 Formula, Trans Am and a 01 Firehawk with the factory 6 speed.
MMFF mag tested a stock z28 back then, it ran 12.8's in 95 deg heat....lol
Even published the article to show how lame the current mustang was in comparison.
😂👍
All LS1 Camaros or Firebirds came with a 6-speed I doubt you ever drove or sat in the car.
13.8 in a SS car is criminal 🤣 Jesus man
30 grand? That won’t even get you a civic now. Even with inflation
Exactly
Man how times fly!😳 them numbers seems tame by today’s standards! A Camry can do those now a day! But still not too shabby!
A high revving v6 is a completely different driving experience even if they are close in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. From the sound, torque and low end pull etc.
@@LeoM-zt3pl plus the driving experience isn't even comparable 😎
I can hear the squeaks and rattles from here!
Headers and straight pipes help drown out the squeaks and rattled👍
As opposed to ticking and rattling from the 5.7 hemi? I'd take squeaks and rattles from the interior everyday over my engine blowing up
Those noises are coming from your dodge. 👎
all f bodies had that, they werent well made cars, they basically pieces of junk with a big engine
@@Len1977gt 😂 not just F bodies, pretty much all domestic cars from the late 70s to the late 2010s. They discovered plastic and ran with it. They are good fun cars for what they are.
Does SLP Engineering still exist 🤔
Check out Trams Am Depot on you tube LS7 Powered Twin Turbo or Supercharging & Stick shift! They bought the Rights to Market The name & Logos
If you google it (youtube won't let me post the link), they're still selling off parts, but they're not actively developing any new products from what I can see.
The Automotive Gods have been overly gracious ahhh Thankyou internal combustion over lords
They are great cars, but come on. There is only one God.
The Firebird was always better than the Camaro
Nice. I just did custom SLP exhaust exhaust on my new Procharged ss. Only one with this setup. Check out my idle and flyby vids
Sounds good man 👍
@@bhcamaro2002 thanks bro
I miss Pontiac
GMC should have gotten the Axe, not Pontiac. It literally makes the same trucks but more wood, better audio, slightly differently styling and maybe slightly better technology that can just go straight to chevy anyway.
My favorite division. They really contributed to GM through the decades.
I think he said 5 speed it was a 6 speed lol
About as fast as a modern Camry V6.
Not even close! MotorWeek has never been known for their ability to get accurate track times especially on f-bodies. These cars especially the Camaro run stock 12.70’s-13.3 1/4 times. Depending what model and package you have.
Haha not even close 🤣 no torque with the little v6.
Google the 0-60 on a 2022 Camry TRD. 5.1 0-60 same as this car. Read’em and weep.
@@austinfrazier7325 You're cherry picking. Of all the google hits, only 1 claims 0-60 in 5.1 seconds and that's (surprise, surprise) a *dealership* website. (Obviously has an incentive to embellish if they want to move the metal). All of the independent tests from car magazines show 0-60 times in the 5.6-5.8 second range. Which is still respectable for a front-drive family sedan. But there is no way it's going to keep up with the lighter and more powerful Camaro/Firebird.
@@austinfrazier7325 Selective reading, lol. No factory stock Camry is anywhere near 5.1 secs 0-60. More like high 5s to low 6s.
So the "modified" cars only made 10hp more than factory? And no faster, either?
Not allowed to be quicker than the Corvette. 😁
Did he say 5 speed
Yup 😂
5spd manual transmission 🤦♂️
😂
13.8 to the quarter? Yikes 🐢
It has a 6 speed, not a 5 speed
Man those antennas look stupid on a "high performance" car in that era. Glad they've evolved to be more hidden/discrete.
I had mine shaved couldn't stand it!
13.5 was not even close to the speed of the 01 Z06! Lol
They need a driver mod 😂
@@bhcamaro2002 or someone who's alive lmao
@@choward874 yeah seriously lack of driving skills
So glad they didn’t make a Sunbird version. (Vomit)
Six grand difference in price for nearly the same performance. Geeze Louise, man.
Yup I remember they were at least 4k more than the ws6
@@bhcamaro2002 I was talking about the difference between the Firehawk and the Camaro but yikes, for $4k less I'd be taking the ws6 as well. IMO the ws6 is a nicer looking car.
@@bghoody5665 definitely not worth it when buying one new, but from a collector's stand point it might be worth a small fortune in a few years. But these cars are meant to be driven
@@bhcamaro2002 True on both points.
6 speed not a 5 speed
5sp? lol 6sp
To my eyes, i prefer pontiac firehawk over chefrolay camaro, firehawk are more pretty looking.
The gears are notchy because because uses auto tranny fluid, I use royal purple and it's smooth as butter,Dump that GM crap out. If you own one of these car's.
I love these 4th gens but the interior was terrible on them . As someone who has owned more f bodies then all y’all ladies combined.
it doesnt look that old