Attack on Titan Anime VS Manga - Season 2 | Clash of the Titan Arc
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- AoT manga vs anime part 2 here we go folks
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Background music:
- YOUSEEBIGGIRL/T:T from the AoT Season 2 OST
- Attack on D from the AoT Season 2 OST
- TheWeightOfLives from the AoT Season 2 OST
- 2volt from the AoT Season 2 OST
- Call of Silence from the AoT Season 2 OST
- 進撃vc-pf20130218巨人 from AoT Season 2 OST
- Renunciation by Asher Fulero
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Thank you for this, I’ve been waiting in anticipation for the next comparison, and you didn’t disappoint.
Season 3 p 2 spoiler
That thumbnail is some clever foreshadowing, I almost missed it
finally u posted u bum
btw Hange uses they/them pronouns :p
Im sad this doesnt have more views i love this video so much
Surprised you didn't directly mention how superior the Reiner reveal is in the anime compared to the manga. The flag pole that falls, everyone freezes and Reiner starts talking with the start of YouSeeBigGirl. I also recognize the impact when I initially read it in the manga was really good, but the voice acting and ost took it to a whole other level.
Yeah I think that each season adapted things differently, as in the sense that the first season adapted almost everything, and changed the order of events, and even added some stuff all to improve the storyline. Season 2 has some amazingly adapted epic moments, but some of the reordering, added scenes, and cut content hurt it overall (though personally I prefer this season simply because of the story and characters). Season 3 part 1 is probably the worst adapted one though because it skips and rushes through very big chunks of content, though the presentation is always amazing.
I like the reveal in each version equally for different reasons. I love how understated it is in the manga, but I also love how dynamic it is in the anime. I had a section written about it, but ended up cutting it out, since I didn't think I was saying anything substantial there. Either way though, I'm happy that you mentioned it here!
@@Lowart I remember reading it in the manga and I was like, "wait what the hell just happened", Reiner just reveals everything as if he were talking about that day's breakfast.
In the manga I kept going back and rereading it and being like “wait, what the fuck is he saying??!”.
The one weakness of the anime is there’s an awkward amount of time between them saying it and the full reveal that goes on too long and kind of sucks some of the tension out.
@@themadmadman9633 That's the point, it's supposed to be casual. I agree that the understate nature is better in the manga, I will never ever forget the panel Armin waking away in the foreground while Eren, Reiner and Bertholdt are in the background and there's just a speech bubble, some background dialogue, of the reveal
I will be honest with you, when the fight between Eren and Reiner dropped out, i was so caught up in the action and everything that i didn't even noticed the CGI Colossal Titan, lmao.
that's how good the plot is, also why most anime only's don't care about CGI in the final season, it's only some manga readers who already knew the plot and just wanted to see some amazing animation who mind it
Me too. I don't know why people were complaining.
@@fullmetaltheorist because their expectations are too damn high😂😂😂
@@fullmetaltheorist I think the trailer misdirected a bit of people that’s why
@@Khann_2102 it’s also that people always want to find something to dislike instead of just enjoying what is given. It’s the nature of how people think about anything, really. Good is usually just “okay” and something that’s actually okay is “bad”
Dude. Yeah, Eren’s VA laughing when Hannes dies gave me chills and pulled me out of the story momentarily just to acknowledge, “holy fuck this is an exceptional performance this actor is giving right now.”
It’s one of those rare moments when a VA is so deeply in character that they’ve fully lost themselves in the role and the emotion of the character is actually flowing through them.
yuki kaji is such a great actor, i havent heard him in other roles but his work as eren gives us one of the best VA performances ever, really talented guy
Yet people still watch the dub, im sorry but eren’s dub voice doesn’t fit at all, sounds like he’s trying to sound cool in s4
cringe
@@randomname5646 I’ve watched both and both do a pretty solid job
@@randomname5646 The dub did a great job as well. I like Yuji Kaji performance, but Bruce also did an amazing job as well. It's fine to prefer one actor over the other, subjectivity in these conversations are FINE.
I didn't even *know* about Historia's reaction after Ymir left. That shit is heartbreaking, to see the love of your life run away to do something that even *you* don't understand why. I can understand why Historia said she hated Ymir.
Oof thanks for that "Youseebiggirl/T:T" check, i had only listened to it 4 times in 23 hours. Almost lost my wings of freedom there.
I'm happy I could save your soul, Darkwing Duck.
I think you gotta remember that the season came sooooooooo long after the first one. The eren, Mikasa, armon, and Hans flashback serves as a needed reminder of these characters dynamic and relationships with each other.
surprised you didn't talk about the manga's handling of hannes' death. when i went back to read it i thought i had somehow skipped several pages due to how suddenly it happens. the anime does much more to build up to it.
The Beast Titans appearance in the first episode was my favorite titan introduction. Absolutely terrifying.
I agree with what you said about character development in this season. Connie was a great example. In the manga Connie actually had a lot more development and chapter 51 was centered around him more. But in the anime they cut it out to make the scenes more climatic. I agree its a shame we never got as much development with some characters as we needed
They gave his scenes to some random scout
Well, at least s4 will do connie’s arc justice ig. Considering how slowly Mappa is adapting, the whole thing with his mom will be far more impactful in the anime
@@santokun5835 im surprised at manga readers calling it slow because to me so many new developments happen every episode that I actually need to pull out a timeline sometimes lol
@@l1mbo69 Well, it’s actually the slowest AoT anime has ever been lol, especially since ep 7. The anime is literally adapting 1-1.25 chapter per episode and you can clearly understand why haha. Don’t worry though,it will get clear by the end of s4 part 1. AoT always did non linear story telling.
@@santokun5835 I'm hoping they add that flashback with Connie and Hange in s4.
I feel like the ymir flashback of her and her worshippers getting turned in to titans was a great bait from the anime. They made it look as if the government within the walls was turning their own people into titans, but obviously later we learn it’s the marleans who did that. So when the Marley reveal happens this flashback becomes a great foreshadow event that makes u go “oh they didn’t pull this twist of people outside the walls out of nowhere” imo
I agree, it really makes the rewatch so much more engaging too.
@@craigyeah1052 rewatching the show after each season to renew the material is amazing when you get the bigger story. The Ymir flashback is one such reason why I do this.
Fully agree
Yeah, it just SUCKS that in the info cards, they revealed that Ymirs town was from outside the walls
I disagree bc I genuinely don't understand how anyone who watches the anime can believe this happens inside the walls when the middle card just after that flashback literally says that Ymir comes from outside of the walls talking about the places we just saw in her flashaback. The only way to think that's inside the walls is miss that, and if you're an anime only and don't read the middle cards, you're doing it wrong.
I can get someone arguing about if that card should have said that, but people ignoring that fact or not knowing it exists bc they don't read those, that's just wrong.
Personally I think the point of the Hannes flashback was just to get us reacquainted with a attached to him before his death, to lend it some extra omph. It worked well on my wife
I like fair play murder mysteries, where the audience is given enough clues to figure things out. As such the Ymir flashback seems important to me, without it there are twists that i don't think an audience could figure out by themselves. It does raise more questions than answers, but that's good, it gets you questioning things before you're given the answers, which makes the eventual answers seem less like they came out of nowhere.
Great breakdown as always. But if you’re this critical of S2 I can’t wait till you get to S4 lol
Wait for the shitstorm that is to come for s3 p1
@@rodrigovallejos3112 why
@@rodrigovallejos3112 wait why?
@@AA-tz2bm WIT cut the first, like, 5 chapters? Maybe more. Rearranged some stuff, but cut a hell of a lot
@@matt-ct8vw if only animation studios had enough budget. It’s funny cause we will never have the perfect conditions for a 1 to 1 adaptation. 1 studio has the time but not the budget and man power, the other studio has the man power and budget but not enough time and is overworked with like many other simultaneous anime being worked on.
You could maybe have mentioned that in this season the role of director was replaced from Tetsurou Araki to Masashi Koizuka. Though Araki is still "chief director" of the project you can definitely feel a change in directing sensibilities that suggests he had less hands on or imprint on how it turned out. Actually if you were to look up some interviews you could see Araki say he is now in charge of sound while Koizuka is in charge of visuals, which might be why the music and voice acting are still so strong.
Interesting, definitely makes sense.
Thanks for the suggestion! In the next section, I'm going to be discussing a bit more behind-the-scenes stuff, so I might look at season 1 vs season 2's staff members a bit more as well and slip it into that section.
That was because of Kabaneri right? What a stupid decision on the committee's part. Sacrificing staff and resources for a complete rip-off. Season 3 also suffered because of that. Yasuyuki Ebara for example was a regular animator in season 1 and did a few scenes for season 2 but only 1 scene for season 3.
@@hvassios That wasn’t stupid, Kaneberi was an ani ori, meaning wit can get a fair amount of money out of it while for AoT, they weren’t even in the production committee. This coupled with production problem are one of the main reasons why WiT dropped s4 in the first place
@@santokun5835 I understand that it was in order to make more money but why at the expense of Aot's production. Especially the kabaneri movie took away some very important staff from aot at the same time s3 was being produced
Agree on direction and storyboarding being less consistent but the animation supervision was way stronger in S2. I was surprised to hear you say that S1 and S2's characters look indistinguishable because thats not the case at all. S2's models are more polished and more iconic i would say. I think Isayama having a better grasp at his artstyle helped the anime adapt said artstyle with a clearer and more focused vision.
Also the Ymir flashback was one of the most brilliant choices the anime could make. It shows you just enough to get your attention but not that much in order for you to connect the dots. It serves as a smoother transition before the huge reveal in season 3 compared to the manga which was very sudden and overwhelming
The character models were very bad in tv version for s1 tbh. They fixed a LOT in the blu ray which is what is available now a days. S2 also had it’s fair share of problems for CDs, every episode past ep 6 had inconsistency in character designs. I remember one particular episode getting 25 AD, that’s how bad the schedule was, so really can’t blame them.
Ymir's flashback i think is incredibly well placed because in it's core it's been placed to enhance the themes and arc of Ymir which I believe is poorly delivered in the manga. In the manga it was left intentionally vague for major interpretations until the viewers understand later when receiving full context, but when watching it in the anime, the directing and story being told does the same through telling us more information while remaining vague under the manga's intent. The scene enhancing and swelling us with emotion despite not fully understanding where it's coming from, allows us to still be there and be pulled closer in with Ymir as she goes through her moments of freedom and the bigger moment of t her truly acting like a goddess and saving the villains out and empathy and understanding etc. etc. Without the context of the flashback I think arguably the season's biggest character moment is left in obscurity and questions of "Why did she save the bad guys" & "why didn't she stay with her beloved Historia" from the audience not understanding what Ymir's arc even is, which is how I and others felt during the manga, which is fine for that format of weekly chapters adn steady / consistent flow of story and intent, but here for an anime production the staff knew to snipe the moment and build it for the seasons climax to make the audience fall more inlove with Ymir while we still have her rather than after the fact. For those reasons and others, inserting world building like that earlier in the series makes for a more polished and carefully thought out production, but if it were placed where it should be, it'll all feel fairly linear, less clever, more standard and uninteresting.
I think the directing of this season stands out from the first and third for taking a less hype and more heartfelt, somber approach. The symbolism with patriotism, the falling of soldiers, the ducks and innocence of childhood and it's rivalries, nostalgic blue flowers . The insertion of more character moments in the extended and added flashbacks I think play in hand for a more fulfilling season when otherwise these characters meeting their ends and arcs don't feel earnt enough in the time given from the anime, while unfortunately a few of the great moments are lost, the scenes added for bulking the focus of the season and the scenes lost to showing and not telling. Some of these added scenes like you said don't teach us new things, but they do flesh out and remind us it's real, i don't think it's fair to criticize the scene because characters had already stated their relationship, that would be weak writing if characters only told us and implied relationships and feelings rather than showing and making us be there to feel it.
Bringing up the Erwin stitch up, it's a definite change that almost entirely changes Erwin's whole character, but change as you should know doesn't inherently mean bad. Erwin in the manga, is transparent from the sacrifice conversation which almost plays like a reveal that he's actually a good guy, while the anime plays into the ambiguity of him to the very end, which leaves more food for thought and implications which didn't take anything away from Erwin, only adding. I've had friends, to my confusion, who were scared from his intoxicating personality that so easily swayed many soldiers to their deaths and were convinced he'd be revealed as some twist villain, when I and others adored him for his resolve and that sinister hope he brought with him. Erwin's without that scene becomes a figure of question, with more questionable morals and end game, which anything builds towards his childlike dreams even stronger.
So glad you’re doing this so soon after the first one. I’ve been waiting for it. I’ve been blue balled by your FMA series lmfao, but it’s okay, the quality of video is always worth it. I hope to see these videos blow up because they deserve it.
Another big change for me was Hannes' death. In the manga, the death comes out of nowhere. It cuts to Hannes who is already cut in half as Eren is screaming. In the anime, Hannes' death was built up with tension and dramatic music. It makes the events feel a little less chaotic and the death itself less surprising, by being more focused on Eren's point of view.
As for the end of the last episode, I thought they would come back to the skipped scenes in season 3, but as we know, they skipped a looooot of stuff (RIP titan Eren building a house). Oh well, still better than Promised Neverland season 2.
this makes me realise how mappa never uses speed lines and still shots instead they uses cgi inorder not using still shots
rotoscoping*
@@oh2075 rotoscoping was for like 1 episode ie episode 2 and they barely ever used it again
@@uzairahmed4197 he called rotoscoping CGI, that's what I am saying.
Everyone in this show has abs so that's good
Lol
Well i dont see how fat people would keep up using odm and fighting titans
@@rillafy7966 I'm just appreciating... Their physiques... For their prowess.
@@rillafy7966 Yeah but how about that chad who barrel rolled to Annie when she transformed infront of the tunnels (when she reveealed to them she is the female titan)?
@@bmona7550 i dont remember him but i do remember lobov and he was chubby
If the cuts in S2 bothered you I can't wait to see what you think of S3P1
A lot of your criticisms are from the perspective of someone whos read the manga, now im not saying they’re not valid but from someone who hasnt read at all, i like all the added flashbacks whether it be that they changed it by placing it somewhere different, or just more too it, in regards to removed scenes, i do agree that they shouldn’t have been cut, none of them, but the ones that were added made me care about the characters much more and honestly, i thought it was amazing after watching season 3 and then watching ymirs flashback again and fully understanding the context afterwards i think its much better than how in the manga we learn her backstory along WITH the letter too historia but separate,
Exactly, he literally says he already knows the story and relationships so he doesnt wanna hear it again, maybe its cause u read the manga before watching the anime😂
@@Martinyonko The former is if they changed the plot or the story (see Attack on Titan Live Acton), the latter is because they tried to be too faithful to the manga even though it doesn't translate very well
@@mykq7286 no, it's because their relationship with each other was already established on season 1.
@@Faun471 In my opinion the flashbacks didn't serve the purpose to establish the relationships again though, but to build up major key scenes in the anime.
The fight against the bread stealing trio for example did three things in one flashback:
1) Showing the old daily live and point out that regardless of all the horrors they have experienced, they are still the same. It gives them a vision of an old life to fight for but it also leads up to Eren's breakdown, realizing he is still incapable to save the ones he loves.
2) Reminds the audience about Hannes and points out his character development from a drunken scallywag soldier to a responsible guard of the walls helping his friends in need. All this was not shown but is important to give his death impact. He was trying to redeem himself but failed against the cruelty of the world regardless.
3) Showing how life is still unfair and cruel. In the past, they fought against the group of bullies for Armin's bread. Now they fight against titans for the freedom of humankind.
I think this is a lot for a short flashback and definitely made me feel so much more in the scenes that followed and climaxed from this.
@@vicarludens I feel like it assumes that the viewer is dumb and already forgot about all of those three points.
Attack on Titan didn't change in tone, at least not enough for viewers to forget that life is still cruel and unforgiving, it's not like we watched them have fun in the beach for two episodes, most of season 2 is people dying left and right, so of course the world is cruel.
Not much time has passed for us to forget that Hannes was a goofball, him saying that he was promoted was already good enough for us to understand that he improved. Seeing him again was enough for me to remember that he was just a drunkard.
I'm not sure what you mean with the first point, even now on the latest chapters of the manga, eren is still fundamentally the same person. The only one that did change was Armin, likely because of seeing Bertholdt's memories.
All I'm saying is that they were not needed in the first place, maybe it depends on the viewer?
All that extra stuff you mentioned not liking the anime added in was added to keep season 2 from being 8 episodes
WIT really has outdone themselves with the past 3 seasons. Job well done, WIT!
Yeah I kinda always felt like I'd missed a key moment in Historia's transformation. Now I know
Wait. Historia does get Ymir's flashbacks through Paths, the anime did show that.
No, not in the manga
In the manga, Historia doesn't see the flashbacks through Paths, Ymir tells her the contents of her past through the letter, and its the first time we see it in the manga.
@@user-ow1ly2bs1e yeah, I understand now that what he meant was not about the lose of information/context for historia, but the lost of Ymir effort to give herself to known and telling it herself.
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I feel like this point on Historia's scene is incredibly disingenuous because she has an extremely similar conversation with Eren Inn the first episode of S3, which gets across the same point as this one in the manga.
If you're doing this analysis from the perspective as a manga reader watching the anime episode by episode, I suppose that makes a bit more sense, but adaptations remix the order of events all the time, which brings us back to square one
I actually love where they put Ymir's backstory at in the anime. Up to that point I was anime only. And theory crafting was a huge bit of fun for me and friends. That flashback gave such a HUGE amount of puzzle pieces to theory craft with. Who were these people? Was this a place outside the walls or was it the walls themselves? When did this happen?
For us, our biggest theory was "This was the walls but a hundred or so years ago, before something reset their way of life." We thought that maybe the titans were something man-made and being experimented with and it just led to so many other wonderful ideas.
So, having it there without the same context as when the manga shows it, really helps build the mystery and hype I'd like to think. It teases the big reveal of the world at large without revealing it. Plus it gives us way more sympathy for the character during her big moment.
I find it interesting how when this anime first came out, it was popular.
But then you had those idiot contrarian calling it generic or "it's just people running and screaming from titans"
But nowadays, people are considering AoT to be one of the best anime/manga out there and are analyzing its themes and dramas
Dude I literally checked ur channel like 10 times to see if u had uploaded this yet, since I enjoyed part 1 so much ahahha
This video was extremely well put together
Thanks! I'm happy you enjoyed it
God this was amazing. What a great breakdown.
I read some of these chapters after season 1 dropped, but that was years and years ago now. I hardly remember it. Now that AOT is drawing to a close this is so helpful for getting more insight into earlier bits in the manga vs the anime. Great work :)
Can't wait for the next part. Season 3 definitely has the biggest changes to the source material. While I understand the pacing criticisms of this part of the manga, the changes they went with improved the pacing at the cost some of the best character writing in the story imo. Hostoria's arc feels so half-baked compared to what it was in the manga.
agreed, can't believe WIT doesnt get more shit for cutting out ENTIRE scenes, and multiple times too. I couldn't imagine being a manga reader and watching the episodes as they released weekly, I'd be terrified they would do the same thing for the next arc/arcs.
I preferred the second season far more than season one
Exactly, season 1 felt like they were running on a horse in a forest for like 6 episodes and season 2 felt like an unraveling of a super interesting mystery and story
@@mykq7286 6 out of 25.
@@mykq7286 maybe you were just too young to notice the finer details. there are so many world-building plot twists in s1 i’m shocked you would even say that. we first learn that humans can be titans and that Eren’s not the only one. there is so much mystery it sets up the reveals for the second season perfectly.
Ymir’s backstory with call of silence was perfect. Such a beautiful moment. Overall I liked how the anime changed the order of things and preferred s2 to s1 but I do agree they shouldn’t have cut the Connie and historia parts.
Yoo just got recommended, like it so far
I think all the flashbacks gave all the characters depth that they didn’t get in season 1
As someone who hasn't read much of the manga, being a mostly anime only fan, I have a completely different perspective. I disagree with just about everything you said. I think the visuals only ever improve as the seasons progress. And the pacing to me felt almost breathless, and with only having 12 episodes I can't understand how someone could think this season felt slow. There isn't a single dull moment because it's packed full of character development, plot progression, and questions being asked and answered at a fantastic rate. I think Season 1 is near perfect, but I think the seasons only get better from there.
By visuals, he means animation. This isn't a matter of subjectivity, Attack on Titan season 2 and on had serious production issues. WIT Studio management is completely trash, overworking animators and lacking any actual planning. It's precisely why the anime was given to Mappa. I also blame the production committee greediness.
@@awsomeboy360 I would add season 1 to the troubled production list, it did have amazing animation and direction but looking at the TV version there's a ton of off looking character models, and episodes like 13 had different versions airing on the same day cause it was still being worked on. AOT has always been a series that has sadly been cursed with a rough schedule, which makes it all the more impressive that it's turned out as good and successful as it has
@@MrEdit-ic7th Yeah. Season one also had Production issues and it's not as noticeable in the Blu Ray than it was in TV. But with the massive success of season one, the production and presentation should have been out of this world for the next two seasons. This is more so a larger issue when it comes to the anime industry, but it hurts thinking of how the series would have benefited if the scheduling and resources was given. Bones is by far the only studio which has been consistent and terms of seasonable improvements outside of long running shonens in the last decade.
I feel as if season two gets way better at presentation compared to season one. Character designs became much more defined (look at season one Reiner and Historia) and the character expressions often times are insane (Eren telling Bertholdt and Reiner he’ll kill them the worst ways possible) plus there’s still awesome ODM gear animation
Was expecting a by the numbers comparison but was instantly sold when you brought up the difference in pacing in how we consume a manga page vs the linear experience of watching the anime, and how being faithful to this structure in the adaptation can hurt the pace and impact of a given scene. Really refreshing to see a channel putting the previous seasons under the same level of scrutiny as the current season is subjected to by the fanbase at large, while also appreciating the changes and additions the anime brought. Great stuff, instant sub.
Doing this comparison for S3P1 must be a grueling task. All power to you my dude.
Happy you enjoyed the video! :) And yeah, I'm currently working on S3P1 and it requires a very different approach. Gonna take some time to get it put together properly, and to make sure I don't miss anything important.
Those changes to the manga are interesting and I agree that some of the things the anime removed, like the Levi and Erwin conversation and Conny’s moments, should have been included in the anime. But I actually preferred season 2 to season 1 of Attack on Titan because of the plot elements that were introduced- for me, season 2 was where attack on Titan went from good to great. The introduction of the intelligent Beast Titan and the reveal of Reiner and Bertholdt as the armored and colossal Titan basically changed the nature of the story and it made it all the more intense and disturbing. I liked season 1, but the story got really good in season 2, cgi colossal Titan notwithstanding.
I think it's so funny that I liked season two BECAUSE it gave me more insight about other characters I could care about. I really liked Ymir and Historia's story. I loved learning more about Sasha's character. What I wish though, is that they didn't waste my time learning about these characters, just to kill and drop almost all of them they introduced. Spare Annie (who gets her backstory a bit more later), Historia and Riener.
Interesting though that they didn't do too much for Connie, yet kept him along with Jean.
Great video. Season 3 part 1 is gonna be a wild one, the anime really did the uprising arc dirty
Attack on Titan has a way of making you care about a character. They show you them as a kid along with their struggles. This happens with a lot of the characters. I didn't care about Ymir until her flashback so I think it was a good idea to put it in season 2. If they waited I wouldn't care anymore.
i think Ymir's flashback in the anime is brilliant. Its a bunch of foreshadowing, and I love it. Also, it gives more impact to Ymir's titan revelation, because otherwise her character would be irrelevant and the reveal would be seen as poor.
Tbh I think the season 2 storyboard layout getting similar to manga panel is a prove to isayama’s improvement as manga artist. He started to improve a lot around the period of season 2’s manga counter part, and his panel using kept getting better. The director of the anime, Araki, is known for adapting existed material, I think that’s why as Isayama improves, Araki’s also effected by original manga.
Honestly I thought that season 2 was perfect (aside for nitpicks) until watching this. Most of your criticism is spot on (pacing, Connie’s development, sasha’s screen time, cut content, etc) but a few things I had to disagree on, (hannes’ flashback, Ymir’s backstory, poor adaptation, etc) The anime didn’t ruin anything, it’s just sometimes the structure/style of the manga works a bit better. (Ymir’s transformation was just perfect in the manga, she looked like a spawn of hell) But without a doubt season two was the best animated season, which did carry. If only season 4 could...
Reiner and bertholds transform and the dialogue a bit before that in the dub is amazing.
It just seems like you hate every added scene in the anime because it wasnt in the manga and hate every cut in the anime aswell. The added scenes elevate the story so much more aswell ymirs flashback and hannes
Eren challenged bully maguire?! Nobody can beat that meme!
Eren might be one of the only people who stands a chance defeating Bully Maguire, but honestly, I'd put my money on Maguire.
I strongly disagree with the take on the first flashback. Sure in season 1 we saw that Hannes had a relationship with the kids, but we only saw that briefly. It was kinda overshadowed by the other events going on at the time. If we only had that and then Hannes telling us that the kids meant alot to him it would feel a bit hollow, which is actually something I thought when first reading the manga. I think the flashback does a good job of showing us, or at least reminding us, that Hannes and the main trio did have a sort of relationship. Which makes what happens to him and the fact they had to watch it happen hurt that much more
Other thing that makes me thankful that Ymir past was in this season is bcs s3 p2 was weaker on production and presentation and it probably wouldn't hit as much
I beg your pardon 😂😂
@@jayesq7483 like wtf is bro talking bout
@@jayesq7483 What are you confused about? Season 3 Part 2 was weaker on production and presentation, it's just a fact not an opinoin
@@secondeye1574 Nah because I disagree with you all wholeheartedly so that has to be an opinion
@@jayesq7483 You can disagree that the Earth is a sphere and not a plate. Doesn't make you any more wrong
YES YES YES!! I agree with you so much! While I prefer season 2 over season 1 of the anime, I do feel the cuts you mention are important. People who only watched the anime think Historia is the same as Christa, but with a new name, and don't notice how messed up the Christa persona really was, and they think of Erwin as a perfect, selfless leader who would sacrifice his own life for the good of humanity. In the manga, that's the first time we see a glimpse into the personal motivations of Erwin.
You're take on the presentation for this season is wildly off base. No mention of the more impressive character animation, the more detailed designs, or the incredible direction of episode 6. The point about the action lines is not at all a big deal and means far less than how well drawn the close ups of each characters face was throughout this season, none of which you mention.
This Season is AOT's strongest presentation and I'm disappointed to see a less than fair breakdown of it.
It's totally fair if you have more positives about this season's presentation (like you said, there are definitely some stand-out moments and things they did a wonderful job with). However, I've always found the presentation of this season to hold it back for me personally. Of course, that's not to say it's objectively poor or anything like that. At the end of the day, it's all a matter of personal preference. Still, I can see why you feel I should have at least mentioned some of the more positive elements of the animation and presentation. If I rewatch it again, I'll be on the look-out for the stuff you talked about and, if it stands out to me the same way, I'll likely include something about it in an eventual update or continuation of this series. That being said, The Canipa Effect has a good video where he goes into the animation for each season and I believe he comes away feeling that Season 2 had the greatest presentation and animation overall, so you might enjoy that one if you're looking for a different take on the season.
@@Lowart wow, you replied so fast! wasn't expecting that, I would have been more polite haha. Well I'm grateful to your video because it helps me realize more specificly what I value in shows like this. Thanks, I'll check Canipa's video out
@@PaperPatriot No prob! I look at my comments from time to time and yours just happened to be at the top of the list! I checked out some of your videos and they're super cool ^_^ I hope you enjoy the Canipa video
As someone who only recently started reading the manga after getting impatient waiting for Season 4, I had no idea that that Ymir flashback wasn’t supposed to happen yet. And knowing what we do now, it seems like the revelation of a world outside the walls hit SO much harder for the manga readers than it did for anime-only’s, because they’d already had it hinted to them a season prior to the big reveal.
Nah 99% of people had no idea what that flashback meant 😂
@@mykq7286 I know I did, I didn’t have to think twice to realize that this confirmed a society outside of the walls.
IVE BEEN WAITIN FOR THIS ONE
nice to see your thoughts on this season especially since most people didn't seem to like it and since this is where the largest gap between seasons occurred your perspective adds a lot to how this story unfolds both on the screen and off
The cgi in seasons 2 and 3 had bad models but the animation was solid (because they move slowly) however in season 4 the models look amazing but the movement is so jarring and cartoony that I just read the manga
15 meter titans that look and move like thei weight 50kg
@@guilhermedealmeida9360 I thought titan had less weight so it's correct?
@@oh2075 for its weight yes, but as depicted with the 3D
its size*
@@guilhermedealmeida9360 The movement of every titan except Armoured in episode 1 fit their size.
About the slow pacing is for stretching the story to have 12 episodes for this season. Yeah it suffers. But it benefits for pacing of seasonal arc, foreshadowing and the payoffs.
Season 2 isn't slow paced, not by a long shot.
I dont really care about every small detail changed or forgotten all i want is entertainment and i got that
I’ve actually read this manga now. I feel so involved.
If you thought that Season 2 was a step back in his WIT Studio adapted the manga, than Season 3 might surprise you.
After watching your analysis it seems pretty clear that the anime is trying to accomplish something very different than the manga when it comes to how much information it reveals to the audience and when. While the manga seems to want to sprinkle clues and let you build this world yourself, the anime wants to build up to each information reveal. You brought up a good point that in a manga a reader can spend however long they want on a page, but in a TV show they don’t get that chance. So handling information like this, making sure that the audience has time to digest each important reveal of information, I’d say is a smart and engaging change. Also understanding this change is, I think, key to understanding and recontextualizing the cut content and the handling of Ymir’s flashback.
I just watched the first part yesterday and was like "Oh boy, time for the 2nd!" only to find it didn't exist yet. Mad lad timing.
I hope we get the Connie flashback this season. Probably refitted during the part where Connie, Falco and Armin gave that confrontation. I think it could work, especially with how Hange’s being portrayed as just being kind of overwhelmed and tired.
Awesome work like usual
Lots of comments talking about how you no longer sound depressed. It’s true but I also liked the depressed analysis vibe lol.
_There’s no CGI Colossal titan in part 3_
Are you being sarcastic or...? I wanna know before I get wooshed into oblivion.
@@imskxmo More like trying to erase trauma Avatar The Last Airbender Style
You're not nitpicking, still shots were very distracting to me as well, taking me out of immersion. I get that animating some of the scenes is very hard but season 1 delivered in that area.
Still, it's a faithful adaptation and the strong moments are still strong, 8/10 from me easily
fire Eren titan from season 1 was way more distracting than those differences You presented in the video
Mappa doesn't do it wich i like
Thank you for making this video, I know it took a long time to make
when he started, he was a shool kid. not matured yet. wit did rejected to continue bc it was too much burden for thei workers and low doesn't allow them over work . only mappa accepted the job reluctantly.
I still think (my opinion) S4 has done the best job of adaptation (S3 P2 is also very close) , with the best direction, sound choice, sound effects, voice acting, most of the stuff cut wasn't much important. But these childish fans who want god tier animation doesn't understand that it isn't the most important thing, there are other things more important especially for something like aot, instead you should be properly critising instead of just saying "cGi CgI" everywhere. I really love these types of videos please make more, it really tells the difference between someone who is in it just for the action.
1. Season 1 by a long shot
2. Season 3 part 1
3. Season 2
4. Season 3 part 2
5. Season 4
Obviously, I'm not talking plot-wise
@@gabrielemola6852 are u talking about animation quality, then yeah this list is same for ( swap S2 and S3 P1)
Absolutely love your series and definitely subscribed
This is why us manga readers dont like season 3. The stuff with Connie, Hanji and Historia could have been there but they made episode 8 into a huge flashback. The ch51 skipped stuff bugged me alot back in 2017
Bro the anime did a far better job with storytelling than the manga. People keep saying that S3P1 cut like 5 chapters, GOOD. That arc starts to feel like it might go on for too long around the end, i appreciate that the season as a whole was shortened to keep the story moving.
@@BapiBoozle But that was interesting animation for someone who likes the story. It was only shortened because people want action and peak moments.
@@oh2075 That's a terrible take considering it's Attack on Titan, a show that damn near everyone is praising for its story right now.
I thought you were going to talk about the reveal scene it was amazing in the anime
im so excited to see your opinions about season 3 ! great video!
As an anime only viewer at the time, season 2 opened up a lot mystery and intrigue, the Ymir flashbacks really got me thinking about possibilities and I don't think season 2 would've been as memorable without this aspect. For me, this season is the most interesting on a mystery level, felt to me like the mystery element of the series was at its apex here. Plus the action, the reveals and addition of the Beast Titan made it one of the best seasons for me.
Part 2 here we gooo
I'm never going to be able to unsee those action lines in "Charge"
great video, cant wait for the next one
I definitely think the best "looking" season of Attack On Titan will always be season 1.
Nah, season 1 has some really badly drawn scenes. Especially if your not watching the blue ray versions.
Those thick ass lines? 💀 the faces look really weird at times too. It’s so goofy in comparison to the rest
@@user-nn4mc8ge4u it has the highest highs
@@alvinchimp1392 Why WOULDN'T you be watching the blu-ray versions, though?
Problem is, blu-rays didn't really fix anything for Season 3. Just a few minor bits like derpy Kenny.
@@ThePreciseClimber Crunchyroll only has the original TV airings. Also the op was talking about Season 1.
I personally prefer s2 to s1
I would love for someone to make a chronological order of AoT events that we get in the Anime, starting off with the earliest (Ymir's flashback?) then going through Grisha's story then on to Eren's childhood and then the fall of Wall Maria, so instead of flashbacks events happen at the time they are meant to.
Can't wait for your season 3 vids!
I actually wanted the backstories to the OG 104th. Took me a while to learn the names in season 1, so this helped a lot.
Alright, that’s it, am reading the manga
2:22 my favorite titan
Damn EVERYONE is posting AOT videos today. Did a new season just start or something?
New season started like 2 months ago
I started watching the anime and the universe felt that, so it provided me with lots of fresh content to watch. Feel free to thank me.
One of my biggest pet-peeves is flashbacks that flash back to periods of time we as the audience did experience. It's jarring to see something you've already seen, only to be told "actually, no. You missed some stuff". It really reveals the hand of the writer in that it makes it extremely clear this wasn't planned out. If it was, then why did we not see it during the period of time this event occurs in? Especially when it concerns characters we were following during that time. The writer wanted to create set-up for a pay-off, but wanted to retrofit it because they failed to set it up in the first place.
This is one of the laziest things a writer can pull. I never stop to think "aah, what a smart writing choice" or "wow, that was so well put together", but the opposite. I'm left sighing at how flimsy the structural integrity of the narrative is and my engagement drops significantly, because I feel like I'm discouraged as a viewer to be attentive to what's going on, as the writer has already shown that they're privy to banking significant plot threads on things they invented right when they needed it.
This is why I massively prefer season 1's anime to it's manga outside of the artwork. The training segment is moved to when it actually takes place as opposed to only being shown when its contents are plot relevant. I feel like in deducting and putting together the pieces regarding the femoid titan along with the cast, which does a lot to get me empathizing with their disposition as opposed to being spoon fed something I couldn't possibly have made sense of otherwise. It doesn't feel like a ret-con, but a strong sense of cause and effect.
For example, Reiner being grabbed by and escaping from Annie is one of my favourite moments in the whole series, because it seems somewhat janky without context, but once it's revealed to have been totally on purpose, my mind was blown at how much the story expected of me and how effective it could be at weaving itself together as tightly as that.
There are a lot of flashbacks in season 2 that I feel really should have been in season 1, presented in chronological order. Sure, you could argue it would bog the pace down, but I'd say that's a good thing, because if the writers recognize that, they could have reworked the relevant information into something that slotted in more seamlessly with the surrounding content it was being retrofitted into.
Season 2 was disappointing to me for a lot of reasons, and this lack of self-reflection regarding structure is one of the big ones. Season 1 recognized where it could put the work in to tighten the structure of the story to enhance cause and effect and play down any contrivances, while season 2 seems content with sticking to the manga, even if that wasn't necessarily the best choice.
I love these videos because I’m waiting until the anime is finished before I read the manga so seeing all of these things that they add or remove from the manga to the anime is very interesting
I’ve been waiting for this video
I was so confused whether this was the 2nd part lol
Great video. My only complaint is I wish it was longer and you went more in depth, but I understand the video needs to be short and accessible so most people will watch. I hope Season 3 Part 1's is longer, there's SO much you can talk about with both character and plot (You could even break up plot into structure, pacing, and foreshadowing). The biggest criticism I've heard of S3 Pt 1 in the anime is that it seems like it's just pushing things along to quickly get the audience up to date with these answers, and solve the issues in the wall, so that we can be caught up when finally battling Reiner, Bertholdt and the Beast Titan. the most painful part of this criticism is that in the manga it's not like that at all, all of the reveals and plot devleopments are so naturally baked into the characters and the pacing so it's actually its own story and not just a way to achieve a purpose. I'ts unfortunate because it really does feel in the anime like S1 and S2 spend time slowly stringing you along with these mysteries and then S3 Pt 1 goes "Ok never mind we took too long, here take these answers so we can move on" when agian the manga treats it with so much care
I'm reading the manga and watching the anime right now, and I liked so many things the anime did but I feel that the anime leaned a bit too heavily into Mikasa only worrying about Eren and then went on to removed Eren worrying about her being hurt. I used to think it was very one sided until I read the manga and I'm wondering why they did it that way.
I also agree on Connie I was surprised that was cut, as well as how the Jean/Eren convo was trimmed down where Eren was doubting himself and the gang teased Jean about being so 'preachy.' it was a moment of levity that would have been nice to end on.
I think if they had all the time and money in the world, they would have kept the final scene the same, to leave the season off with an epic quote
Anime fans: CGI ruined anime!
Houseki no kuni: am I a joke to you?
Awesome review Lowart, keep up the good work👍
been waiting for this vid
12:43 Honestly, that might be my favourite scene in the anime
Nit picking at it’s finest
Lol if he is like this wait till he gets to season 3 and 4
4:40. This aged like shit. Look at mappa. They cant do anything except follow manga panel for panel. Wit was fucking perfect