Tony Banks of Genesis (Part 2) - The ProgCast with Gregg Bendian
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2023
- TONY BANKS keyboardist/composer and Genesis mastermind is a ProgRock God. Tony is back, in the second part of our epic chat about his many musical inspirations and the end of Genesis. This portion of our chat was originally only available to my patrons and I am now sharing it with the entire ProgCast family to show you what kind of extremely cool things you get when you join my Patreon. If you enjoy this kind of rarified musical exploration, please support what we do by joining!
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GREGG BENDIAN is a percussionist/composer/producer/educator/podcaster from Teaneck, New Jersey. During his wide-ranging career he has toured internationally and recorded with Todd Rundgren, Jan Hammer, The Mahavishnu Project, Keneally-Bendian-Lunn, The Musical Box, John Zorn, Derek Bailey, Nels Cline, Cecil Taylor, Pat Metheny, Ornette Coleman and Zoot Horn Rollo. On the academic front, Gregg develops and teaches courses in studio production aesthetics, music history, and composing/arranging at William Paterson University of New Jersey. For the Yale Oral History of American Music, he has contributed over 100 expansive interviews with major figures including Wayne Shorter, Sonny Rollins, Quincy Jones, Carla Bley and Steve Reich. Bendian is archivist/producer for the Bottom LIne Archive of historic concerts. Recorded over 30 years at the Greenwich Village venue, the series features discs by Jack Bruce with Billy Cobham, The Brecker Bros, Lou Reed/Kris Kristofferson, Pete Seeger/Roger McGuinn, and Doc Watson. An accomplished percussionist and a composer of over 200 works, he has created a body of innovative music for jazz, rock, percussion (solo and ensemble) and mixed chamber groups, which include his Interzone and Trio Pianissimo bands. Gregg's music is published by Iamuziks (ASCAP). Begun in August of 2020, The ProgCast explores the creative process and musical history of a diverse assortment of cutting edge artists.
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So good you finally put this out there.Thank you Gregg!
"Music is the best"
Bless you.
You are welcome!
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What a marvellous interview. Thank you to Tony and Gregg,
Thanks Chris!
I too first discovered Tony and Genesis in 1977 when my older brother brought home Seconds Out in Bergenfield, NJ. So, we are neighbors who never met. I did marry my HS sweetheart from Belle Ave, Teaneck. Sadly my son and I lost her in 2020. Her two Tony favorites were Afterglow and All In A Mouse's Night. Thank you so much for this in depth interview, well done.
That is trippy! Thanks for writing in. My deepest condolences on the loss of your sweetheart.
Amazing conversation, together with part 1, just brilliant development led by Gregg, prompting such wonderful reminiscence as well as informative memory, thank you for posting this... I've been a big big fan of what Tony Banks brought to the Genesis sound, melody and harmony, atmosphere and sound cloud... I've loved his individual work as well, and the orchestral works are so satisfying, so thank you, Gregg, for putting this together and putting it out there for us -- for me -- to listen to, thank you
Thanks so much for listening and for your kind words. Tony is a superhero!
I cannot believe my channel has, at the time of writing, more subscribers than this one. This is expert-level stuff, and truly fascinating. Banks has always seemed rather reticent when it comes to engaging with interviewers, but Gregg does a wonderful job here in asking interesting questions and, getting even more interesting answers. Well done. Subscribed.
Thank you, David. Much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing :)
I love Tony's orchestral works much more than all the previous works with Genesis and his other solo projects. Finally he calls the shots and does not have to negotiate with others of what goes and what stays. For example, City of Gold on SIX is masterpiece! If that were a Genesis project, it would have been whittled down to a 5 minute ditty and lost all the magic of the transitions, segues, and the richness of the orchestration. Keep them coming Tony! I applaud your efforts.
I think it’s accurate to say that of all the members of Genesis, Tony got his way more than any other.
Mister Banks, hello from France . I ve just Heard Afterglow ( Montreux) . And i cried. So beautifull. It s magnifiscent,really . Of course i love all you composed ,in Genesis and others ..
This IS really a part of my saoul now . Fifht of fififffth ;) etc...
I chuckled at the DX-7 comment -- total pain to program but some great built in sounds, it clearly was an inflection point in the development of synths.
Thank you very much for posting this, Gregg! I really enjoyed both parts
Thanks for listening.
As awkward as I am it would just be a neat experience to sit and converse with someone like Tony.
Thanks a lot Gregg, really nice to listen to Mr, Tony. Some unbelievable road people like him have travelled in the world of composing and performing. Seconds Out came in my world when i was only 13 years old, now i´m 58 and it still is the album that i´ll take with me if had to go to a desert island with only one CD allowed to take with me. Countless music is composed by countless artists that i really like so much, but Genesis is always like coming home. Although i can be critical too, there is enough songs on certain albums that i´m not too crazy about, but overall no band comes close to the masterpieces of Genesis. Greatly because of the composing of the very down to earth mister Banks. I think he has Dutch roots,😄 because of being so normal and free of ego. Nothing more beautiful than people being completly themselves. When music is timeless, thats when its true art. Let´s be grateful for composers who give our ears their talent, during a lifetime. Thank you mister Tony Banks, thank you Genesis.🙏😊 Greetings from Holland.
Thanks Johannes! Love The Dutch People! Real art lovers.
Love Love Love Tony's work. If I had idols, he'd be one of them. He may be one of the greatest an most underrated songwriters/arrangers of the past century. Stunningly brilliant work. thnx for the great interviews.
I do however take issue with your praise of the Nick Davis 5.1 remixes. He's a very nice gentleman who kindly corresponded with me when I reached out to him to express my disappointment in his remixes of Genesis. In particular 'A Trick of The Tail". It was wrong on so many levels. He completely missed the mark. Sure, it was surround sound, but it didn't make up for the fact that the mixes were totally wrong. Especially, Phil's vocals. Dead Dry! WTF! The drums are buried. Sacrilege! The feel, the magic, the cohesive quality that Hentschel achieved were to be kind, ignored. The fact that apparently none of the band members were present for the remixing is painfully apparent.
I'm not really a fan of Steve Wilson, but his remixes of some of Progs greats are, for the most part, shockingly good and loyal to the originals.
My apologies for being truthfully blunt.
Wonderful interview
Thank you!
Thank-you for the amazing interview !...certainly one of the best i have ever heard (or read) from Tony Banks
That is so nice to hear! Thank you,
You're very good at this, Gregg. I sense your interviewees really enjoy the way you seek to understand them not just as the people who recorded your favourite music, but also as fully rounded human beings with a wide range of diverse interests. It's like two friends having a cosy chat at the pub.
Oh, wow - cool, thanks for sharing the second part! That's really nice of you !😊👍
(btw - as I got banned on a channel with the progressive award video I'd like to repeat my comment from there, here:
Margaret is the real star ❤- as it is really cute to hear Tony talking about her :)
Banks:Seven - Spring Tide and Neap Tide are also random? I thought the connect to Tidal Forces ~ Cause and Effect was nice.
Spirit of Gravity is my favourite though - The bass right after the middle section is pretty awesome!
A true fan
Great interview Gregg John is a treasure
Thanks so much , Gregg.
Thank you, {Paul!
Thank you for such an amazing channel! Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! We try!
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day
Thank you!
thank you ....Mr Banks.....and Mr Bendian....saw trick of the tail...wind and weathering ....etc Toronto...Maple Leaf Gardens......also became a synth programmer .....Dx 7 my first...Emulator 2 next...Synclave....etc......much interest for me in this interview....thanks again
Thanks for tuning in!
Excellent Interview...congratulations!
Thank you!
Dylan is more than just a wordsmith, he is a great song writer.
Dylan is not the musician nor is he the melodist that Paul Simon or Joni Mitchell is. Dylan was the first and and certainly deserves props for that. However there are maybe 10 singer-songwriters I would rather listen to. And it has nothing to do with his voice. I personally enjoy his vocals.
@@KLanz123 He is still a great songwriter. But thanks for expressing your preference. That's what its all about. I don't listen to much Simon or Mitchell these days, but I very much enjoyed them in my younger years. Funny what stays with you and what doesn't so much.
@@KLanz123 I don't know about that, Dylans catalogue is about twice Simon and Mitchell's put together. Hell I'd rather listen to Neil Diamond than Bob Dylan, but I'm not about to suggest he's a better musician or melodist.
I happen to agree with you on that!
So Throwing It All Away is like that part from the Land of Confusion solo?
The "Right Stuff" composer was Bill Conti, not Goldsmith (sorry Tony) - other than the source music of course. Wonderful piece of music.
The weird thing about Genesis fans is that there is both the subtle digs at the guys for 'selling out' in the eighties, while at the same time there are the subtle digs at Tony for not being as commercial as Phil or Mike.
Commercial hits, especially in america, are VERY hard to come by. For one thing a lot of it is marketing to radio stations and putting your face 'out there', something that Tony never did. "This is love" is a pretty decent straight up attempt at a love song.....but in reggae? Then, as he says, he goes one time change too far. But 'restrained' is a very fitting description of him both in his songwriting and his singing. He and Anthony Phillips both seem to have that 'problem', there is something very 'upper class' that just keeps them from really 'showing' their guts, which is understandable. Its weird that both came their closest to really 'getting it out' when you listen to 'the knife'. But for fun I checked out his wikipedia article, he got married in 1972, when they were doing Foxtrot, and had a one day honeymoon. Now thats a guy really putting everything into his career, but there is always a holding back in the music.
No prisoners.
yeah Gregg, beethoven 7th is my fave of his.
Ha! Nice.
Silver Rainbow!!!
I love Silver Rainbow too, especially that crazy out of tempo part right at the very beginning. The lyrics are a bit off for a romance song, but that works.
Killer.
When was this recorded?
Like a year ago
It seems that Tony had to pee towards the ending by his improvised cue. The ole bladders aren't what they used to be!😅
As a non native english speaker: If you understand Banks talking, then you understand all other englisch speakers....😅
Very true. He just thinks, talks and plays 2 times faster than other people
That's nothing. Mike Rutherford can talk fast, but he mumbles on top of that 😅
Hmmm, in the end it´s no wonder that German composers were so dominant even on the isolated isle called Great Britain. Cause you simply can´t compare composers like Elgar, Vaughan Williams and the others with giants like Brahms, Beethoven or Wagner. In my opinion the lack of real great composers goes hand in hand with the wealth that evolved during all of those "Empire Centuries". Brits didn´t play by themselves, instead they hired or bought foreign musicians and composers to play for them - what began with Handel. At the same time they always tried to define their cultural richness by presenting especially those pieces that were written by those composers in Great Britain. For example Haydn´s London Symphonies or some Mendelssohn pieces. It really reminds me of the Brexiteers in many ways.
Empires are by nature stealers of other cultures, that includes music. Britain is interesting because they were STILL doing it even after the war when they were no longer the dominant empire.
@anonymusum - I find your analysis to be thought-through and well-founded. Thanks for that and thanks for tuning in.
Little bit too "intellectual" to me. Tony is a brilliant rock player with a great sense of writing. No more bloviating needed.
There's no lack of old interviews with vacuous american hosts asking banal questions.
We try to do things a bit differently here. Thanks for tuning in!
These days we need more of the intellectual, not less.