ZACH EDEY SCOUTING REPORT | 2024 NBA Draft | Memphis Grizzlies | Purdue | Canada
Вставка
- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- New #MemphisGrizzlies center Zach Edey is the most dominant player in #collegebasketball. When will the Canadian big man go in the 2024 #NBADraft?
Make sure to leave a COMMENT… and, if you enjoyed the video, LEAVE A LIKE and SUBSCRIBE! FOLLOW ME on Twitter @wilkomcv and TikTok @floornceiling for more content!
Contact: wilkomartinez@gmail.com
TikTok: / floornceiling
///
Credit:
- "Benz" - Yung Kartz
- "Warzone" - Anno Domini Beats
- ESPN
- CBS
- FOX Sports
- Peacock
- NCAA
///
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:15 Post-ups and dominance at the rim
2:20 Pick-and-roll, play finishing
3:34 Questions about NBA pace
4:26 Rebounding
6:00 Passing and playmaking
8:18 Passing questions
9:37 Shooting
10:40 Defensive dominance
12:10 Defensive questions
13:33 NBA Draft projection and Takeaway - Спорт
Edey is an extremely intelligent player as well. He is going to understand exactly what he has to do to succeed in the nba and work hard at it. His defensive improvements in the last year alone are very impressive. It’s crazy to me people think that people don’t think he’ll carve out a spot in the nba, especially if he gets on a team that isn’t afraid to go against the grain.
He knows how to get the absolute most out of all of his tools, I agree, and his constant trajectory of improvement is remarkable.
I touched on this in another comment, but when a team is drafting Edey it's worth keeping in mind that he only started playing basketball seriously in high school, transferred to IMG Academy's second team, moved up to their first team shortly afterwards, and has grown at Purdue every single season since his college career started.
@@FloorandCeiling the guy has worked hard. He was 436th in his recruiting class and is on his way to back to back NPOY.
Unfazed. This kid is going to be a steal.
He dominates the college game.
@@FloorandCeiling Yet the “0ne-and-dones” can’t? You put this guy in the right system and he has a solid 12- year career.
love his old school game
His dominance is a real throwback. I’m truly interested in seeing how/if it carries over to the NBA. I think it should, at least to some extent, and he can have a long career in the league but without the singular spotlight he has at Purdue.
I love that sky hook and his old school development process. He looks like a Mark Eaton type that can score.
He's a big throwback in some ways, which is partly why it's not easy to discern how he fits in today's NBA.
@@FloorandCeiling I have a suspicion that he is going to surprise a lot of people. His current statistics are off the charts. I like the path he has taken so far.
much more refined than eaton -- a more agile robert parrish w mchale footwork -- attacks the rim more than kevin
@@thehighvibe5528 Bro I can’t wait to see how this guy performs in March Madness. It’s like going back in time when all the big time centers made their mark. Ewing, Hakeem, Duncan, Morning, Webber, etc. were all must see in March.
Mark eaton would not be in today's nba. He was a very impactful player in his era though
Definitely one thing to note on stretching the floor is last year when he went through the process he showed he can hit them fairly consistently from NBA range, Purdue and Painter just don’t ask him to do it, but give him time to develop he has a nice looking shot and could probably be a 30% 3pt shooter especially since defenses will likely be sagging off him
He's shooting 50% this year! (but only 2 attempts :D )
Yeah, I've heard similar and his touch from around the floor + the free throw line indicates this as well.
There was an interview on The Athletic last college season where Edey brings up something along the lines of how his most efficient offense, at least until now (although I expect going forward too), is always at the rim. He makes his team better by finishing there, rather than trying to stretch the floor, even from a numbers standpoint. It was interesting to see him bring that up, but it's great self-awareness and it's definitely true from an on-floor standpoint.
@@FloorandCeilingagree, I remember that interview, he’s almost hyper aware of the floor and his positioning/body awareness, part of why he is so good at both drawing fouls and not fouling. And he is very keyed in on the game plan set forth. Think that the increased NBA spacing will help his passing as well, it will be rare for him to get triple teamed and hacked the same way at the next level, honestly hoping he goes end of the 1st round to the Celtics, would be interesting to see him come in and take those Kornet minutes after a year or two
Not only do I think Edey is going to prove a lot of ppl wrong but he is going to be a steal for whoever drafts him. Wouldn’t mind my Lakers snagging him at pick 17 if he’s still there.
Let's see what happens tonight. Not sure the Lakers pick at 17.
I always appreciate your evaluations, so I came here after round 1 to make myself feel better. I still don't like picking a player at 9 who will get played off the floor in the playoffs. There were more useful players available and/or the Grizz should've traded down to get him.
Really curious to see how this pans out. The biggest question off the top of my head is how Edey is going to adjust to Ja Morant’s frantic pace.
I want Edey on my Chicago Bulls!
Thanks for watching!
That's a dub Grizzlies got him
30 pts 20 boards (GM 1). Total dominance
Really hard to stop at the college level.
@@FloorandCeilingit’ll be hard at any level. This is harder to sto with NBA spacing. Depends on what gm takes a risk on him. And what coach plays him
Atlanta hawks fan here! Hella excited for our first 1st overall pick! A lot of our fans are sold on Sarr, however given the size and lack of rebounding the hawks have. I feel like Zach is our guy. I can see him turning into a baby Jokic. Trae using him a lot in the pick and roll. After seeing him shoot today in the combine, if we work on that we stretch him (not a lot) but enough to open the floor for Trae and others to work. I’m mostly focused on his size, rebounding and second chance points. Also he beat Sarr is agility drills today 👀
Also think about the defensive pressure he would take off Trae allow the man to beat him because he knows he has edey Johnson or capela behind him!
He’s got a soft touch and the control in the paint is BEAUTIFUL! Dunno why his draft stock is so low…
I don’t want Sarr 😢
Thanks for watching! What are your concerns with Sarr?
Why not both? Edey can be had late 1st round or early 2nd
Glad to see an old school back to basket post up center. Tim duncan vibes
Old school for sure, but I think he also has the means to succeed in the modern game. Thanks for watching!
@FloorandCeiling I think he will translate to the nba just fine. Even if he plays post up fundamentally sound like timmy D I think he will still flourish even if he doesn't play like a modern big with the handles and pull up 3s. Everyone's defense is catered toward bigs like that they won't know what to do with the old school playstyle in the modern Era defensively
I just love for this guy to get drafted and prove the "expertd" wrong.
He'll get drafted lol
I’ve heard him speak & he fits the heat culture. He’ll weigh 280ish instead of 300lbs & be a great compliment to the defense. He gets boards, has a nice hook that could be deadly one day & might even put a cap on Jokic
Thanks for watching! I'm just not sure the Heat want a center that will take away touches from Bam Adebayo.
@@FloorandCeilingI can see that normally being a concern, but some could also argue bam may be even more productive at the 4, since he can guard 1-4 efficiently anyway . Bam’s downfall is traditional centers who consistently get their team second looks
we have no real paint presence & honestly everyone should be getting ready for wemby to take over anyway
Edy going to be ROTY
With Edey is all about fit. Other than OKC and Spurs that most ppl say is a fit, I hope Memphis draft him at #9.
The perimeter defense of Smart/Vince Williams and Jaren/Clarke covering him will be great.
I see a lot of people project Edey to OKC, but I cannot see that happening. It would be an extreme deviation from the skillset and versatility that the Thunder have favored in recent times.
Memphis grabbed the best pick imo. Welcome to Memphis Zach Edey. Let's go Grizz Nation!💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Welcome to Miami!
I've seen a few Heat fans wanting a big. Genuinely curious - how come? Most of the touches in the frontcourt will always go through Bam, I feel.
@FloorandCeiling Correct spo isn't moving bam to pf and it kills spacing with bam and Jimmy.
@@FloorandCeiling As a longtime Heat fan, I can see Bam’s development when it comes to stretching the floor. This mid-season he started taking around 2-3 threes a game at a high percentage which makes me believe they’ll start him at PF next season.
@mozzapizza8516 Bam isn't there yeat as a shooter to do that .
Hope the nuggets can get him. Perfect environment
I like his fit there, although he’d need to adjust to a much smaller role and much fewer minutes than what he’s used to at Purdue.
The Nuggets could be a good destination for Edey, playing Jokic's minutes off the bench. Neither Nnaji, Huff or Jordan seem to be able to fill that role.
Solid analysis. Go Zach.
Thanks for watching!
I think a Edey also got a huge leg up on other college players with the fact he getting exposure to NBA caliber players and trainers with Team Canada.
It'll be interesting to see what his Canada future is. I have no doubt he'll remain with the team, but teams also target him at the FIBA World Cup because of some of the same concerns that face him in the NBA.
Rumor is that he got a decent outside shot
Yeah, he can shoot it a bit in practice and his indicators are generally solid (soft touch and good free throw numbers for a big). Thing is - and he's said this himself - it's always going to be more efficient offense for him to finish right at the rim, rather than try and stretch the floor.
Most pro type players make every single shot I’ve seen Ben Simmons drain three pointers like it’s nothing in the NBA that’s expected it can he make that against NBA defense with their actually guarding him because there’s less zone and more coverage in the NBA, especially with switching do you think he could hit a shot with a guy covering him?
Not a rumor. He has a developed outside game. He wasn't allowed to do it at Purdue.
He's much more refined than the tape shows.
Trae would feast with a 7’4 center to dance around. So many open looks at the rim if the Hawks get him
You're describing someone I want around Trae Young in Victor Wembanyama.
Hope to see you in south beach!
Would you feel comfortable with him as a top 20 pick?
You don’t know how bad I think the Heat can use Zach Edey and develop his defensive game.
@@indadeI think it's more about simplifying his game in the NBA, making him effective off much fewer touches, and helping him adjust to the pace of the league which is much higher than in college and won't be geared towards helping Edey get touches.
Excellent content. Would love to see a comprehensive video where you share your big board for the first round! Maybe a little closer to the draft
Thanks a lot! Stay tuned - I'll have content like that coming up!
This guy has more stat potential than Clingan
Why?
I think Zubac similarity is spot on, low ceiling but can fill a role safely on a winning team. It would be fitting to get a video about Donovan Clingan next, I think his ceiling is higher but also a safer bet for defence.
I’ll have a Clingan video out pretty soon and I’ll touch on some of the things that set him apart from other centers in his class. One of the biggest differences for me between Edey and Clingan, though, is mobility and the speed they play at.
@@FloorandCeilingI feel like Edey’s mobility is a non-factor. Both Embid and Jokic are pretty immobile if you think about it. You can even make a case that Yao Ming was in the same category. What’s important is he continue to make that sky hook a lethal threat, it could be unstoppable. The unique thing with him is his repertoire will be on full display during March Madness. Decades ago, that was the proving ground for operational readiness.
By definition ceiling is the highest he could reach and anyone at that size, strength and history of production has a very high ceiling. He could be dominant and not just a role player. Thats his ceiling not saying he will be
@@mjad7I don't think he has that high ceiling due to lack of shot and above avarage footwork, so it's a talent issue. Height is not the only intanglible.
I've been having a running disagreement with a friend about Edey. I believe the college and the NBA games are different and those differences might make a dominant college player a much less impactful NBA player. Thanks!
That's exactly the thing. The nature of both games is totally different. I think Edey can still be a good NBA player, but it's gonna most likely have to come in a much smaller role.
@@FloorandCeiling I see him a lot like Drummond
Stock has risen to lottery projections following another masterful performance in game 2 of March Madness.
He's a 13th to 17th pick
Too high for me personally.
@@FloorandCeiling - These international players are coming with a different mindset. They’re not looking for quick fixes and broadcasting ridiculous social media videos. This guy is about his business. I’m seeing him as a legit performer at the next level.
This is an underrated player.
Thanks for watching!
Him being half Chinese reminds me of Yao Ming.... won't be surprise if Rockets draft him 😂
I’m in the cigar bar watching this kid go off for 40 points, in the meantime there’s this guy screaming about how there is no place for Edey in today’s game.
I freakin’ give up. Mark my word, he will be a steal in the draft.
Always a good place to watch March Madness.
One thing that was not mentioned is that he only started playing basketball in high school. His learning curve has been steep, as evidenced by his improvement at Purdue. As was mentioned, Purdue definitely does not run any kind of NBA motion system, therefore we do not really know how he might do in that kind of set up. Given his relative newness to the game and how much he has improved over just the past few years he could really pick this up and be a completely different player. As was said, he's not stiff, can run the floor and is smart. A team that could see him as a development project, perhaps spending a year on one of the development teams, he could, as many have said, turn into an absolute steal.
Yep, I mentioned it in the comments but everything you said about his trajectory is completely correct. Edey comes from a baseball background and he only started playing high school seriously once he was in high school. From there, he went from Toronto to IMG Academy's second team, later IMG's national team, and since then he's improved every season at Purdue in order to become the most dominant player in college basketball today.
Get Zach drafted as a first round pick to the clippers this off-season. His skillet and playstyle is perfect for them and he could rotate in for zubac or Daniel. I feel Zach is somewhat better than zubac at rebounding and scoring in the paint. He is a young center and can have a long career on the clippers if he lands there increasing their title odds to get a ring.
I mentioned it in the video - I like the Zubac role for Edey. Thanks for watching.
Yeah but will Zach edey be drafted this off-season to the clippers and sub in or replace zubac?
At the college basketball level his dominance is brutal, no one, except perhaps Clingan, can stop him.
But I don't see an easy future for him in today's NBA. As the channel is called Floor and Ceiling, I would say that his floor is Marjanovic and his ceiling is Zubac.
I like the Zubac comparison.
But at the moment I see him closer to Marjanovic.
Today, against NC State, we got a glimpse of some of the problems Edey can encounter in the NBA.
Seems like jonas valencunas at best to me. Dude is slow footed, not a vertical threat, and isnt a real threat from 3 but can win in the post, set hard screens, and rebound
A center like JV or Ivica Zubac is a realistic outcome for Edey imo. That has its limitations, some of which are important especially in playoff type settings, but both of those guys are also consistent career starters. Thanks for watching!
Because of his trajectory of improvement, I think any NBA team who passes him up is going to regret it in the long run. He should go early in the first round. JMO.
How early are you comfortable drafting Edey?
@@FloorandCeiling well he was 440th coming out of high school. Three years later he was natl player of the year and he's better than that a year later. If it were me, I'd grab him the first chance I got.
You got some things right but missing on a few. First you have to realize he didn't start playing basketball until he was in his. But bc of his experience in baseball & hockey he has excellent footwork & hands which absolutely translates into NBA. So he went from learning for first time in hs to only get a handfull of minutes and being ranked in the 400s to learning college ball, coming off bench, starting to NPOY. Thats tremendous growth in short period and there are typically 40+ Sevenfooters in D1 every year that have played their whole lives and come nowhere close to this with more than double/triple the experience. Point is, Zack is very hard work, learns quickly & exceptionally skilled. But lets keep it real, unless 80s/90s rules & referring come back its safe to say Zack is looking at a role position in the NBA or dominate overseas. Many of the factors you mentioned that are different between college & NBA ALL players need to adjust to not just Zack. NBA court is more open & spread out than college giving him more room to go 1 on 1 & more court to pass out of post with. With that said the length, speed & quickness is at another level in NBA. He will need to become a little quicker in his decision making, more Zip on his passes & improve from a high post facilitator (a la Dramond Green). No doubts he can adjust to these things and he can be an asset to teams to come in and bang with guys like Embiid, Joker, Lopez, etc...use up some fouls, wear on those guys, get a foul or 2 on them, load your best shooter on same side to force 1on1 or leave 3pt shooter wide open. He is also very well conditioned and won't play 30min in NBA but could give a team like Miami or GSW a large center off the bench 8-15min a game to help when playing teams with other bigs. Plus he is a solid mid-70s FT shooter & he will get fouled in NBA this is also a plus. He will probably go between 27-37 in draft. He does have a solid jumper that is not used at college level for obvious reasons, but will be more of a tool he can use in NBA to expand his game to help give him longevity. But his conditioning, never been injured, strong, high IQ, great attitude & quick learner all great factors that help separate him from other larger 7-footers in past.
I didn't have time to get into it in the actual video, but I've mentioned his constant improvement in the comments. Edey only started really playing basketball while already in high school in Toronto, then transferred to IMG Academy where he played for their second non-national team before being promoted to their national first team, and now he's grown every single season at Purdue. This is worth keeping in mind when it comes to his clear work ethic and path to getting better.
As you're saying, everything becomes quicker and longer in the league. That's why he'll need to get accustomed to making quicker decisions, getting less time on the ball, receiving less touches (he won't be the singular focus of an offense, as is the case at Purdue), and playing at a much faster pace. As you also brought up, his free throw numbers and overall his touch in the paint are very encouraging.
Right now, I have Edey between #35-40 on my big board, but I'd be comfortable drafting him (in the right situation) at any point starting from the #25 pick. Thanks for watching!
I do tape review for 3 nba advance scouts. I had Edey requested by all 3. All 3 have a top 10 pick slotted. All 3 give me their lists in order of importance.
Edey was 1 on all 3 lists. This was 2 months ago before the tournament. I got all his games and practices.
Edey is Jekyll in game and Hyde in the practice tape. In open runs, hes RUNNING, switching to the perimeter to defend, and consistently hitting jumpers out to 19 feet.
I give the good ones code names . Zach was "Frank" as in Frankenstein. He's a freak, dude. He has Joker's game right now.
Its a god awful draft. He's the logical 1. Do not be stunned if he goes 1 overall. Watch Sheed and Tyler and Gils Arena. They're starting to push him.
There's nobody in this draft except Edey. Ive done this since 06(worst draft ever, statistically. Not a single star and 7/10 were out of the league after 5 years) and this draft is exponentially worse.
Edey's safe: Durable and experienced and he averages 70 percent from the stripe. He can absolutely shoot. His passing is much better than you've seen.
Trust me, hes the best player in this draft. Youve only seen half his game. You'll see.
Now we have the draft order, who do you think drafts Edey?
@@joed7185 it's almost criminal that Detroit is at 5. Wow. They got jobbed out of a bad pick.
ATL - Sarr
WAS - Topic
Then it's a free for all. It set up exactly like I hoped. Edey goes at 4, 5, or 8. I'm betting probably 8. San Antonio. 4 if they get word he'll go early. With 2 picks here and Pop running the shop, He's going to San Antonio unless Detroit is all in on Ivey(Edey s best friend).
That's not 1, but then again, Atlanta needs a guy to protect Trey unless they dump him. Edey is certainly an enforcer.
I called him jumping up boards a month ago. Look at me now. He's trending in the lottery with a big ole up arrow next to his name. I know this draft backwards. I wish I didn't.
Edey isn't the franchise guy. He's probably a Zaza type or Bogut on a chip team. But he's the only good projection in this draft.
@@joed7185 one thing: I'm basing my projection on how he fits a team. This year, it's top/bottom on fit, meaning he goes to SA or Detroit early, or drops to OKC at some point.
I don't see any other teams that'll understand what he is immediately: He's Steven Adams with a post bag of tricks. Very valuable player type.
I think he'd be a good fit for the raptors-good mentors around him.
I'm seeing a lot of shouts for the Raps.
@@FloorandCeiling they seem to struggle signing centres...btw, just curious if you've ever heard of Pensare Basketball?...He's a Raps media guy with good overall knowledge of the game. These days he and our fanbase our a bit more keen on draft prospects then maybe in the past. You might enjoy some of his content.
bro too many ppl overthinking it. hes got stuff you cant teach
Hes gonna be good in the NBA and I could only hope the lakers land him
Let's see what happens tonight. I'm not sure the Lakers will pick at 17.
Edey's role in the NBA is complicated to evaluate.
On the one hand he is an absolutely dominant player in the NCAA because of his size, wingspan and weight, qualities that Purdue has been able to use very well. He also seems to be a tenacious, hard-working player who evolves every year.
The problem is that he has characteristics that are difficult to adapt to the current NBA. For example, his defense is effective because he takes up a lot of space in the paint, but will he be as useful in the NBA with a faster and more open game where he will have to defend three-pointers? can he adapt to a team where he is a bench player? can he play today without a minimum of long-range shooting?
He also lacks a weapon that would be fundamental for him: the pass.
I don't know, maybe in the right team and with the right role he can be very useful, but he generates a lot of doubts in me.
Agreed that he needs to adapt to the NBA’s pace and space, as well as the key element of learning how to play off the ball more, relying on the pick-and-roll to score, and exchanging long post-ups for quicker sequences early in the shot clock. All of those reasons are some of why Donovan Clingan, for example, is way above Edey for me.
Would be great to see him go to Toronto. They already have RJ Barrett.
Would be cool to see, in all honesty. I like how the Raptors have been focusing on Canadian (or adjacent) talent lately with RJ, Dalano Banton (even if he got traded), Kelly Olynyk, Jordan Nwora (he's from Buffalo, NY but grew up as a Raptors fan), Chris Boucher of course...
This Raps front office really likes Jakob Poeltl, and I think Edey could do some of the same things.
The Raptors hosted Zach Edey for a private workout today.
feel like if he gets put with someone like Trae who spams 5s in pnr he could be special on offense
He'll definitely need a good point guard in the NBA to set him up, since I expect that his game will transform into more of a pick-and-roll play finisher. Thanks for watching!
I'd be interested in how you compare Zach to Poeltl? I see his shot blocking and rebounding and his entire offensive package as far superior. FT% & even his shot and it's potential (I don't rule him out as a future shooter) are better. Poeltl is a pilon away from the basket like Zach will be. Poeltl is a decent passer and I think a smart guy like Zach can also be decent or better in the future. I don't really see it as that close to be honest...especially when you consider ceiling.
I feel like the main differences are Poeltl's better passing, conditioning, and proved capacity of being able to impact the game on a low volume of touches. There's also definitely a case that he's a more mobile defender than Edey, though he's not particularly versatile either.
@@FloorandCeiling I am surprised to see conditioning in your comment. Could you elaborate?
I can see him going to OKC.
I'm just finding it hard to see OKC drafting a paint-bound big.
@@FloorandCeiling I look at it as having an actual big for what the future holds. They can develop him into a beast if he can run the floor consistently.
I like his firey attitude, work ethic, competitiveness, and toughness-all those intangibles you can't teach, but which are missing in so many spoiled, entitled NBA players these days like Deandre Ayton, Ben Simmons, etc. who had all the physical tools to be dominant players but turned out to be soft prima donnas and bad locker room guys. The thing I love about Zach is that he has that dawg in him, but he is humble and unassuming. How well you do in any profession is, to a great extent, a function of those intangibles more than your inherent gifts. Just look at Damian Lillard. I really would like to see the Blazers take Zach, since we haven't had a dominant big man since Oden and Pryzbilla, and I feel like we are going to need someone like Zach who can get the opposing Wemby/Holmgren into foul trouble if we want to compete in the new West. Ayton just isn't gonna get it done but he can thrive at the 4. That being said, I doubt Portland will make such a smart move as drafting Edey because this whole fanbase and front office is retarded and almost always makes idiotic picks like taking Oden over Durant or Collins over Bam.
It always makes me wonder how one of the most dominant college basketball player in NCAA history who had single handedly led his non-traditional Final Four team to multiple Championships can also be a projected 2nd Round Draft Pick to Undrafted in one of the absolute trash Draft Class in the entire history of the sport.
Great video nonetheless!
Thank you! It's always interesting to see how many differences there are between the NCAA game and the NBA game.
Perhaps a lazy comparison but Yao Ming with longer arms. Enormous size and touch. You make a great point, if he can gravitate toward maximizing his potential in the PnR and moving his feet on the perimeter defensively, he'll absolutely play in the league. The ability to knock down his free throws and set great picks are a huge asset in his tool box. I'll be glad when the league revises the defensive rules again bringing more of the conventional big back into the game. It's unfortunate a player as talented as Kofi Cockburn for example has to play in Japan and Korea because the current rules of the NBA largely diminishes his strengths.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you brought up it's that intersection of size and touch that makes Edey appealing. If he was just huge but lacked skill, then he wouldn't be a real NBA prospect.
He'll need to scale down his role - become much more of a play finisher in the pick-and-roll and thrive on less touches, because he won't be the #1 option again like he is at Purdue - but it's possible that he can do that and be highly effective, probably off the bench.
He doesn't move nearly as well as Yao. Also doesn't have the jumper/fade
My Grizzlies got that mane... Memphis going to be a real problem for the NBA next season
wassup bro 2 questions 1st is will we ever see another college senior be drafted 1st overall again? & 2nd should the nba be changed to a college senior only draft? I wanted to know your thoughts on that. I would like to really see that happen. 💯
I think the answer for both questions is ultimately No because the incentives to leave college and maximize your basketball career+earning potential are huge. Barring something unexpected, most prospects tend to leave college (or whatever avenue they're pursuing) as soon as it makes sense for them to. Thanks for watching!
He can be at least a good backup center. Is a safe pick in my opinion
I think a realistic outcome for Edey can be a center like Ivica Zubac.
I want him to go to the timberwolves. The biggest threat they have in the west is the nuggets and while they won game 7 the reality is they dont really have an answer for joker. Not only that Rudy fouled and CAT sat out most of the 4th because he was in foul trouble. Yes, i get you still have Reid, but come finals what if someone is injured you are gonna need a big that is big enough to guard joker and this is where i come to my point
Luka Garza is 6'10 and only 240p. He is too small to effectly guard joker 1 on 1. Edey doesnt need to be as good as joker, just better than Garza. Plus with the new cba rules and the fact Ant is gonna be on a max deal that roster is gonna get very expensive in the coming years. Getting Edey on a 4 year rookie contract is gonna keep the roster cheap.
Also if Edey ends up having a better NBA game then the doubters expect he future proofs you for when Rudy retires, if he isnt any better than Garza just because of his size he will be more useful in the event of injuries, rotations and load management.
I don’t think anyone can stop Jokic one on one really. It’s always going to be a group effort. But yeah, Edey is definitely better than Garza.
@@FloorandCeiling you are never going to stop guys like Joker, Embiid or the Greek. But if you want to win you have to be able to put someone on them who can guard them 1 on 1 and not be totally fucking terrible. If he can't get to his spots as easy it will force him to pass more often and if everyone is being guarded 1 on 1 you can clamp the other guys. If you do that the only way the nuggets win (and teams like them) is if Joker, Embiid or Greek go out and get 40p+
Trying to double guys like them is pointless because they are so good at passing that they will almost always be able to get the ball to the open man and it's just gonna lead to players getting tons of open looks. Shit, if he draws players out deep and somebody is fast enough to cut it's just gonna lead to cheap layup under the basket
He has worked out for Raptors, Jazz, Lakers, Heat, Bucks, Blazers, Pelicans, and Kings.
Lakers is a likely option imo, especially since they considered Zubac to be a lottery pick or thereabouts
BiG Grizzlies if we keep Brandon Clark it's a wrap for the NBA
Will he play Olympic for Canada this year?
I'm not sure really, although I'd assume either yes or that he has a great chance of going. Edey was part of Canada's World Cup bronze-winning squad last summer, which led to the Olympic qualification.
It might be a late decision depending on where/when he goes in the draft, which is what happened to guys like Ben Simmons or Victor Wembanyama with Australia and France once they entered the league.
In 2022, 14 elite Canadian players committed to represent Canada until the 2024 Olympic Games. And Edey is one of those 14.
Reminds me of Nikola Pekovic. A big bruiser down low.
Down low, Edey has virtually been unstoppable so far in his career. It’s in pace and space where the questions come in but…
His constant improvement is also worth highlighting, given that he only started taking hoops seriously while already in high school, transferred from his school in Toronto to IMG Academy but began on their second non-national team, then got promoted to IMG’s first team, and now he’s grown as a player every season at Purdue. Hard to count him out really.
Great comparison. Pek was like 6’10 so about half a foot taller is crazy
Big issue with Pek was injuries, when healthy and out there he was very good. People are sleeping on this guy.
@@4evahodlingdoge226Pekovic has been out of the league for almost a decade. He’d be unplayable today.
he is a walking double double in a soft nba
I really think that teams should be looking at him like an Ivica Zubac type of player, so this lines up with what you're saying.
@@FloorandCeiling he isnt really slow - he is patient more than slow -- deliberate when he goes too w great footwork
He won't drop past #32.. Toronto will take him with the Detroit pick in the second round if he's there
I have Edey around that range. Thanks for watching!
I don’t think he’s falling that low
I want to see okc have him
Would be a big deviation from their recent draft picks.
Do stephon castle next please
Stay tuned! I’ll have a Castle video out soon.
YAO MING 99%.
Been seeing Yao's name a lot in this comment section. You're not the only one who sees this.
Speaking Of Centers, Can You Do Kyle Filipowski?
I had a video on him last season, but I'll probably have some sort of update on him before the draft.
@@FloorandCeiling 👌
After watching his matchup against DJ Burns (Elite 8 - 2024) it is clear that Filipowski cannot play center in the NBA. At least on defense.
@@alvaromartinez-cachero1231 I don't think most NBA centers are as big as Burns.
@@alvaromartinez-cachero1231 Exactly,Did you see what DJ did against Edey ❓(Not Much) If Okc Takes Zach Edey and pay Arvydas Sabonis&Hakeem to train him he will Develop into a MONSTER
Hes going to end up being a steal in this draft.
Hes worth drafting for his screen setting alone. As a Blazer fan I Wish we had a center that could set screens like Edey does... To free up Anfernee Simons and Shaedon
Thanks for watching! Do you think Portland should draft a big?
DJ Burns please
Not an NBA prospect imo
Not a NBA prospect, but he’s fun to watch.
Miami Heat
What do you like about the fit there?
@FloorandCeiling Heat fans like that he is tall but he doesn't fit spo's system .I have seen spo literally not play certain bigs .
imagine Edey vs Yao
I think he can potentially be a bigger better Steven Adams
Steven Adams would be a great career for Edey, but I think Adams never had to adjust to going from a lot of touches to really scaling down his role.
Edey's college usage averages about 33%. Adams averaged about 18% as a freshman at Pittsburgh and then never above that again. In his last 5 seasons, his usage is at 16%.
Raptors
Like i mentioned in another comment, it's been interesting to see Toronto leaning towards acquiring Canada-adjacent talent.
lakers needa center
I don't think the patience is there from the Lakers right now to truly commit to developing a center.
He looks too slow to make an impact
You have to trust that he'll be able to adapt to playing at a higher pace (on both ends), but that Edey's improvement curve continues and that he's a smart enough player to continue bending the game in a lower volume role. I like him early in the second round.
@@FloorandCeiling I wish he was more mobile…! But he is still exciting to imagine the potential…! Great video…!?👍
I think Spurs draft him
With which pick?
@@FloorandCeiling Either Him or the Uconn kid if he falls to #4.
Hope he ends up with the Spurs
He'd potentially be there for the Spurs' #33 pick, but I like other fits for both sides better.
@@FloorandCeiling I think he will go in the first round but I hope you are right 🤞
Potential future Larry Bird, he has touch
I’ll be honest, I see absolutely no similarities between the two other than them playing the same sport.
whoever mentions zubac is out of his mind i rate edey top 5 in the NBA active players now, not this draft class but whole NBA.
He has some neuromuscular ability, troll height, immense push power (he has extremely muscley legs), and good touch near the basket. Easy 30 ppg with over 60 pct shooting with 3pg blocks
So would you draft Edey at #1? Because the player you are describing (30 ppg, 60+ FG%, 3 blks) would mean one of the greatest of all time.
absolutely and i would not blink. U see people think in streotypes, '' ok tall slowish Zubac or Boban'', well no! he has nuormuscular ability ie. he has skill in unrehersed encounters the only such 7ft player i can remember is Greak freak or tim duncan and (a little less than those 2 and injury prone the cameroom giant from 76ers) .The amount he can push and move people maybe shaq can, he couples that with extremely accurate close in shots. All that translates to the NBA. He dont even need a pg , just lob the ball in .
i know his percieved value is low, and my writeup sounds stupid, because you know people generalize and put you into buckets, therefore he will end up as 1 of the most famous draft steals. @@FloorandCeiling
How does that translate to the NBA? Yeah he dominates college players, but he has no shot and he's not particularly quick. Even bigs in the NBA can hit 3 pointers.
It's fair to wonder how all of this translates to the NBA. We haven't really seen too many guys like Edey have real success in the league recently. I think Ivica Zubac should be considered a reference point.
On his shot, though: I don't think a big in today's NBA needs to shoot in order to be valuable. If you can, that's obviously great, but I look around the league and see centers like Bam Adebayo, Domantas Sabonis, Jarrett Allen, the aforementioned Zubac, Walker Kessler, Dereck Lively, Jalen Duren, Clint Capela, Onyeka Okongwu, Daniel Gafford, Steven Adams, etc. who all hold very valuable roles for their team without stretching the floor.
Dude, you don’t possibly believe Embid and Jokic are quick do you? Remember Yao Ming? As good as Yao was, quickness wasn’t a strength.
He needs to find a team that relies on controlling the paint. He'd be good for boxing out bigs at crunch. I can see him less as an offensive weapon and more of making it hard for other centres to get leverage. Which a few teams that's half their strategy.
He's actually relatively new to playing compared to others his willingness to learn and improve is really impressive.
@Helpusall6565 your right. He's attempted one, and made one..
He's at 100% from beyond the arc. NBA watch out!
7'4 300lbs can't dominate nba bigs?
Cinder blocks for feet. His ceiling is tacko fall
His floor is tacko fall. His numbers blow Tacko's out of the water.
Just look at his free throw form compared to Tacko. They are no where similar.
Edey is much better.
He isnot a.thinker on the floor..relies only on height. I wouldn't drift him.
Edey's height and size obviously conditions his entire game, but I don't think it's the only thing he brings to the table. He's a genuine play finisher and a quality rebounder with a trajectory of improvement.
He's ready for the NBA because they won't call 3-second violations either.
Or let’s see if the NBA gets rid of that altogether to try to bring more defense back into the league.
2nd round too stiff
I have him between #35-40 on my personal big board right now.
I don’t think his game translates well to the NBA. Old school bully ball is not going to work. Also, he is going to get killed on switches playing against quick players. I wish him all the best.
It’s gonna be interesting for sure to see where Edey translates and where he doesn’t. Thanks for watching!
says a guy who types in a keyboard. lol. Your knowledge is awesome, your confidence at sharing it is even more amazing.
@@ClayTorres69 Notice that I prefaced my comment with “I don’t think”. The comment section is designed for people too comment. I suggest you stop reading the comments…if it’s going to cause your fragile mental health to suffer. 🤡
@ClayTorres69 What gives this random UA-camr or you any more of a respectable opinion? Dudes right edey wont translate for crap. He’s a bad Luka Garza and he can’t crack the rotation
If you are a decent front office and can't find a way to use Zach...you should be fired. In this draft he is a lottery pick 100%. His weaknesses have been exaggerated way too much.
What do you think is the best way to use Edey?
@@FloorandCeiling It depends on your personnel. He is an obvious pick and roll guy, so you need to get very fluid with that considering his hand are so good. Having him as a bench player for a year or 2 will allow a coach to use Zach as an effective counter to many schemes the defense is running. He is smart and his skill set continues to grow so with-in 2-3 years i see him as a starter with an above average skill set. You obviously have to find the right big to pair him with but that won't be too hard if you focus on it. I think he continues to improve and become an All star level big in a few years. His defensive mobility is not as big a deal as people make it out to be. Maybe if he wasn't so smart and didn't pick things up quickly it would be a big negative. He is just too skilled though. He is not Boban. I think there may even be a case for him at #1.
@@Veggamattic I agree that Edey seems like a smart, hard-working player and may be usable in the NBA even though he is a bit slow (logical given his size) and hogs the ball a lot.
But IMO, if Edey wants to be more than a bench player where he needs to work the most is on his passing. Right now he is a bad and slow passer and needs to be able to pass the ball much quicker and more accurately to outside shooters and his inside partner.
@@licenciadobrubaker I don't disagree. I don't think it's beyond him either.
He's so slow.
I don't think he's super slow relative to his size. He has limitations, but he's legitimately huge and can position himself imo.
Very slow reaction time. NBA will be too fast for him. Will be easy to defend. Poor athleticism. Another Boban. Far off bench place taker. Short career.
I agree that the big question is the pace of the game in the NBA. Edey is going to have to make so many more trips up and down the floor, not just in total but also in terms of how these accumulate over a short period of time in the league. It's not going to be like at Purdue where the team can dedicate 25 seconds of the shotclock to giving Edey the ball.
However, I don't know that he will be easy to defend since he's a relatively mobile 7-4, 300 pound (this will decrease probably) big. If he's screening - which he's great at - and rolling, catching rebounds, gets better at rim running, etc. then I think there's a clear spot for him as more of a back-up center.
“Another Boban… Short career”
Boban: in the league 9 years and counting
He only travels every time he touches the ball ...
I've seen people touch on this a few times over the last few years, but his footwork is really clean most of the time. Sometimes it takes the slow-mo replay to be 100% sure, but he's largely on-point.
@@FloorandCeiling
"his footwork is clean most of the time... "
His footwork is actually quite sloppy ...
I played back in the 70s when they actually enforced the rules like traveling and double-dribble ...
The slo-mo replays actually prove my point ... in the case of traveling, YOU CANNOT LIFT YOUR PIVOT FOOT ...
Edey does it with regularity and so does Ke'le Ware from IU ... everybody does it! ...
That dang euro-step just debased the discipline in this sport ... and the refs protect the big name players by giving them a pass ...
I'm calling it now: edey will be a wasted pick. He will quickly become insignificant quit or retire.
That's harsh
I would love to see the Knicks get Edey. Imagine Edey with free runs to the basket as Brunson or Randle go 1 on 1 and teams are forced to help out on them. Especially smaller lineups. Edey would be an absolute terror off the offensive glass at 280-300 lbs. Edey setting monstrous screens and then just rolling to the basket. Thibs would be salivating
It's gonna be very interesting to see what the Knicks do with their first round picks. Do they package them or keep them? Thanks for watching!