@@ThySting yes they are, they paid him to go back and redo some of the Legacy intros that are still going like F&F and MCU and I believe he's done all of the other new intros as well
Hello, are there any copyright issues with the intro since it resembles the Marvel studios intro. Music and all? Looking to do something similar with the Infinity war theme and I’m not sure how edited a sample needs to be, to pass.
With Kevin stopping the whole flow of the show early on trying to remember a name and Greg not knowing the plot this is the most messy in review yet, I love it 🤣
The realities start to splinter once they “pass the threshold,” but before Sylvia kills He Who Remains. So there are already multiple branches when she shoots Loki through the portal.
As far as the tva. I think it's safe to assume each multiverse has its own tva now. And loki is in Kang the Conquerer's tva. Hopefully we see more fun differences than just statue changes. Maybe a Mr. Minutes and less rose gold colors lol.
The other thing to consider is the location with all the Loki's and Sylvie still exists.. maybe Sylvie takes charge of all the Loki's as they clearly can't organize themselves lol.
This is correct. It begins to split before Sylvie stabs He Who Remains - So when Loki is pushed through the Time Door, the possibility of him landing in an alternate TVA is there. Plus I believe He Who Remains may have tampered with his KANG WATCH prior to Sylvie grabbing it. See you soon :)
Well in the context of the show the timeline doesn’t start branching until Sylvie killed Kang. Because the scene after her killing him is the TVA going haywire.
@@KJShinra no the timeline starts breaking before Loki and Sylvie started fighting, the show specifically shows the timeline breaking when he says they have crossed the threshold
@Tim the bombs were just Bomb versions of the pruning staffs that the TVA Agents used, Revona showed that you can prune anything when she pruned Mobius, so by sending those bombs all over the place she was pruning a whole bunch of stuff that shouldn't be pruned.
Tim says Thanos Endgame is A tier(which i agree with) then Greg proceeds to say S and every reason out of his mouth is Thanos in IW and the rest of the guys agree 🤦♂️
I hate that wandavision teased X-men and Mephisto super clearly and heavily but then didn’t pay it off at all. Seemed pointless. I liked in this how the Easter eggs and all the teases seemed to actually fit and the mystery of time felt a good payoff
After Sylvie killed Kang. The loop began again where a NEW Kang now made a new timeline where THIS Kang the Conquerer Kang was the one who won and made HIS timeline the new only timeline. Kang's "see you soon". I bet the next season opens with her meeting the new Kang moments later before escaping.
The intro music is always perfectly KF while also homaging the franchise being reviewed, but something about this one with the blast of horns and the bells, it’s perfect.
For Ragu Bagu, would it be good to start the conversation by saying "Is X villain better than Top Villain of F Tier?" Yes? Is it better than top of D Tier? And so on until the vote stops it moving foward and then it can be decided where within that tier it falls.
I mean, one could easily argue Silvie to be the bigger villain than the TVA, He Who Remains was just doing what had to be done and got tired. Ranking villains gets muddied when shows like WandaVision and Loki are all about breaking those kind of conventions/labels. It’s not like Thanos/Magneto who THINK they’re doing a good thing, this variant Kang legit was doing a good thing (and he wasn’t really controlling people’s fates either, that’s a misconception as everyone already played out their free wills) despite the consequences, Wanda was unaware of the damage she was causing in her depression and reversed course when she did, etc. Silvie however served only herself and not others despite consequences, for compelling/understandable reasons, but was still wrong and knew she was wrong, being too afraid to enchant Kang cause she didn’t want to face the truth and had already made up her mind either way. The closest thing WandaVision had to a villain was Agatha, and the closest thing Loki had to one was Silvie, but Loki in general has done the best job at portraying everyone as characters acting the most sensibly within the stories/paths given to them, you understand and give free passes to all of them, which is a first for the MCU.
The MCU has been knocking it out of the park with these shows so far. While not on par with the best of the best movies they continue to deliver watercooler moments and highlight the lesser MCU roster. I could never have predicted that I would enjoy shows about Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon, Bucky, or even Loki but now i'll give anything a shot.
At the end before Renslayer says “the only one with free will is the one in charge” then when asked where she is going she says “to find free will” she went to 3100 to find Kane and help him. Also before Loki gets booted the time line is splintering. It happens when Kane no longer knows what’s going to happen
Please read this, I think I can explain. Each timeline IS an entirely different universe, but there is only the one quantum realm and the one TVA. When you see the ring outside the castle, it is not one ring, it is an infinite number of rings all overlapping eachother. This indicates that there are an infinite number of timelines already, but none of them really vary too much from the sacred timeline. It also indicates that time does indeed repeat itself in a cycle. This also means that the multiverse war that was hinted at having already happened is the same one they are leading up to. What the TVA does is prevent any potential series of events from leading to another kang being born. The multiverse exists because on a regular timeline all potential outcomes happen simultaneously each splitting reality into a new branch. This is what causes variants, and is why going back and changing the past never effected the future. Think of the quantum realm as it's own timeline with it's own rules and physics. The quantum timeline is totally linear and does not split like the regular ones do. This means in the quantum realm the past can change the future, so sylvie killing he who remains means that in one of the timelines in the 31st century a kang who is destined to become kang the conqueror will eventually go far enough back in time that they can tunnel into the beginning of the quantum timeline and found the TVA. Because loki was outside of time when this happened, he was not effected, but as far as anyone at the TVA is concerned, that's just how it's always been. Because time is a flat circle and time quite literally works differently in the quantum realm.
I read this. Thank you so much. I didnt read the line “Time works DIFFERENTLY here” so literal. I just thought time had no affect so it was impossible to go to any different time in the TVA it was just constant but this is amazing thank you so much for taking the time to type all of that!!
To understand where Loki went at the end you have to understand there is NO time-travel in the MCU, only Universe-hopping. Thing is, 1) Some Universes are younger than others & 2) There are infinite universes so there are many that are VERY similar w/ maybe a few minor differences. This is why in the MCU you can travel to the "past" and change things but not mess up the present you came from, because you're not actually in your past you're in another Universe that is both younger & nearly identical to the one you just left so from your perspective it would seem like you just went back in time. (This also explains how He Who Remains created the "Sacred Timeline"; essentially all he was doing was pruning Universes that differed to much from the one that created him thus leading to the creation of a Kang instead. He had compressed the Multiverse down to only like-Universes, and now it's spiraling outwards again as is the natural order of things.) So when Sylvie push Loki through the portal at the end she sent him to another Universe where Kang rules the TVA directly, which from our perspective would seem like the same "timeline" only with one MAJOR difference.
That would make sense but Steve going back in time to return the stones and then staying in the past with Peggy and living a full life and meeting Sam as an old man goes against that. Steve being there means he did go back in time and lived a life in the same universe as the movies. I think your logic makes more sense but they kinda fucked up the rules in endgame and it’s gonna suffer for it
I love how Greg tried to help Tim keep the tier list on track for awhile, but around the 3rd time Andy & Kevin ignore the rules, he gives up and starts making podcasts within podcasts
Just a theory, but my take on the varient TVA is that "He Who Remains" wasn't entirely honest about there only being ONE timeline. My thought is that the Red Line is the furthest the timeline can branch before it connects to another Kang's timeline. He Who Remains didn't kill off an infinite number of timelines, he isolated his one timeline from the infinite others. This would explain why the TVA Loki winds up in isn't his original one, but a different timeline entirely.
Watched this episode across two days. The second day started with Ragu Bagu. They finally ranked the TVA and I was legitimately shocked when they still had to rank the show lmao. For awhile I had convinced myself Ragu Bagu was the whole podcast.
I still haven't heard anyone else talk about it but did anyone notice in the first episode when he crashes in the Gobi desert it really looks like it's paying homage to the shot in iron man when tony crashes the prototype suit after escaping the cave. Actually I think it's the same desert too but I'm not certain on that.
Sylvie should be part of RaguBagu. She murdered a ton of people, the protagonist’s final fight is to stop her, she causes the multiverse and sets off a series of terrible events because of a need for revenge.
The show writers forgot about loki's super strength and durability, he should have been able to tear apart those TVA agents, and the humans in roxxcart, and the people on lamentis, very easily.
The title of this series is likely absurdly brilliant yet so cheesy and embarrassing yet wonderful. They just put every tag word you could want into the name itself.
Thought the season 1 finale of Loki was pretty great and imo it definitely made up for how kinda slow and a little bored i felt throughout the season but overall it was enjoyable and really good. I'm excited for season 2.
At the end, Loki ends up in an altered-reality. The TVA exists outside of time, but is influenced by the timeline and its branches. I think Ravonna was ultimately successful: she went to get Kang in the event so that, in the event he was killed by Sylvie and Loki, there would still be a functioning TVA. And the new Kang entered the reshaped TVA-one that had changed because the man at the head of it was no longer issuing orders and the TVA had collapsed from a crisis of conscience-and told the truth about the importance of the mission. He built the new TVA, but not before they got a much more damaged multiverse to work with and try to prune.
The CG spectacle in WandaVision was definitely better than Loki's episode 5, as most of it was directly connected to the drama of the characters' arcs and executed better. 20th Century Fox Galactus vibe from Alioth was definitely worse than whatever Disney kids show vibe you got from WandaVision. All the actors had to do was stand there and act silly while WandaVision had them up in the air on wires doing real choreography.
I think Loki gets bonus points for ending with a common theory fans had, falcon and Wanda ended lack lustre cause they threw us off to what they built up.
I have no idea what wandavision was trying to do. They leaned heavily into Mephisto and casting Evan Peters as quicksilver was a huge nod to the xmen, but not to do anything with that was weird
@@Sam-jv6fb yeah i think kevin has shown in movies as well he likes to point in one direction and then throw u off but then eventually return back to what should have happened. It’s interesting I’m not crazy about it in the moment but so far they have always proven it overall
@@SebastianBravoco it is just very surprising how heavily they leaned in the Mephisto thing and then using that particular actor for Evan Peters out of 6 billion humans on earth and then not to do anything with either. they did say something about it and why they didnt lean into those things or why they made the choices, but I didnt like their reasoning
Edit: I love that you tiered Ragu Bagu. I need a graphic of the current list! My preference is Falcon and Winter Soldier. I just didn't like WandaVision. Loki was very enjoyable and very impactful to the MCU. F&WS just hit me harder. It was more grounded and I'm a big fan of thrillers. So another political thriller works for me. We've seen Loki mature and try to do good before. It's not as unique as the character's story of F&WS or even WandaVision. All in all, Loki is my number two of the shows so far. Also, I have a lot of respect for the director. She told her story and has moved on to different things. It's refreshing that she doesn't want to continue just because the show was renewed. I think that will make the show stronger to let someone else take the reigns
Bombs were sent to sacred timeline to distract the bulk of the TVA while just Sylvie took out the timekeepers (information she got from C20 just before this). Loki stalled her enough I guess for them to regain control and I’m pretty sure they got to Lamentis somehow or they were captured. My brain is mixing some things up around that point.
I don't know if my proposal will garner any traction, but I propose they prune any outliers from the MCU altogether! No more "Vision" from Solo or any X-Men villains. Anyone else concur?
Wait, so if you go up to Aladdin at Disneyland and ask who they are, they're going to say "I'm Aladdin's friend" instead of just saying they're Aladdin?!
Time travel rules and use is NEVER clean, one of the hardest things to set rules for and never have it fail a thought experiment. For Greg: regarding the TVA being changed (or now in a different timeline) let's try the Bioshock Infinite method. Constants and Variables. If the TVA is outside of time, and impact of Infinity Stones or variable timelines, then it's a constant. However, with He Who Remains gone, another variant of him has taken over the establishment of the TVA at it's inception. The place remains, even Mobius and the other time agents remain, instead of different people or variations of themselves. But it's history has been rewritten. It also now begs the question, what were they doing, or thought was happening, up to the point Loki returns? And what is their goal? Good questions for Season 2.
i think most of the complaints about some characters or the TVA getting more screen time and info is do to the fact it will be given in the movies and they arent yet ready to make movie goers be forced to see these shows
Watching the circumcision of the List and all I can think of is "How is Zeemo higher than Thanos from End game?" Tony Stark does more in 10 minutes of movie time (Intro of the accords) than Zeemo did in the ENTIRE MOVIE. Zeemo is a B-tier villain at best until FaTWS. PERIOD.
I've never not been impressed by those intros. Jesus Christ
They're all great but this one gives me the goosebumps. It's so good.
Are they paying Cameron Kennedy? Hes done like every intro. So much talent so incredible. Love them every time!
@@ThySting yes they are, they paid him to go back and redo some of the Legacy intros that are still going like F&F and MCU and I believe he's done all of the other new intros as well
Hello, are there any copyright issues with the intro since it resembles the Marvel studios intro. Music and all? Looking to do something similar with the Infinity war theme and I’m not sure how edited a sample needs to be, to pass.
One thing that will always be a constant is the fact that Kevin will never remember any character’s name in any TV show or movie. Haha
That and Andy will always be caught off guard to start Haiku in Review 😂
I appreciate Kevin's confidence in theorizing while literally not knowing any of the characters names.
With Kevin stopping the whole flow of the show early on trying to remember a name and Greg not knowing the plot this is the most messy in review yet, I love it 🤣
Watching Kevin take a solid 30 seconds to say something was my favorite awkward silence ever 🤣
I love how they get sidetracked by Twinkies, ALMOST move on, and then go back to talking about Twinkies.
The realities start to splinter once they “pass the threshold,” but before Sylvia kills He Who Remains. So there are already multiple branches when she shoots Loki through the portal.
This
oh shit or when she doesn’t shoot him through
As far as the tva. I think it's safe to assume each multiverse has its own tva now. And loki is in Kang the Conquerer's tva. Hopefully we see more fun differences than just statue changes. Maybe a Mr. Minutes and less rose gold colors lol.
The other thing to consider is the location with all the Loki's and Sylvie still exists.. maybe Sylvie takes charge of all the Loki's as they clearly can't organize themselves lol.
Thank You Bro I Was Just About to post this 🙏🏽 You are exactly Right As soon as The Threshold Is passed they’re already multiple TVAs Being Split Off
Someone: That has nothing to do with what Andy just said
Big Kev Dog: Oh yeah?
This MCU in review caused a nexus event guaranteed.
Looking forward to the Kinda Funny McDonald's Mascot universe.
I really enjoyed how the kinda funny podcast did a hostile takeover of in review this week
Kevin is wrong, the timeline started splitting off after they passed the threshold of Kang knowing the future
This is correct. It begins to split before Sylvie stabs He Who Remains - So when Loki is pushed through the Time Door, the possibility of him landing in an alternate TVA is there. Plus I believe He Who Remains may have tampered with his KANG WATCH prior to Sylvie grabbing it. See you soon :)
Well in the context of the show the timeline doesn’t start branching until Sylvie killed Kang. Because the scene after her killing him is the TVA going haywire.
@@KJShinra no the timeline starts breaking before Loki and Sylvie started fighting, the show specifically shows the timeline breaking when he says they have crossed the threshold
This podcast could be 10 hours and I’d listen to the whole damn thing.
Honestly I would expect nothing less for an episode about Loki cause this is chaos
25:33 this kills me how no one understands what Kevin means and then nick starts answering for him
You guys are always SO confident about things that you guys are SO wrong about
Nick's definitely playing Warzone during this tier list conversation right?
New rule... Kevin has to sleep the night before you record these. He's completely incoherent.
Its not sleep he's high as fuck
Something. He and Greg going back and forth every episode is annoying.
That intro always hits so hard and the custom one made it even better!
Kevin brushing his beard mid video is something special hahaha
@Tim the bombs were just Bomb versions of the pruning staffs that the TVA Agents used, Revona showed that you can prune anything when she pruned Mobius, so by sending those bombs all over the place she was pruning a whole bunch of stuff that shouldn't be pruned.
Tim says Thanos Endgame is A tier(which i agree with) then Greg proceeds to say S and every reason out of his mouth is Thanos in IW and the rest of the guys agree 🤦♂️
Yeah that was so frustrating lmao Greg argued for IW Thanos and nobody caught that
Greg told his crew to enhance the photo like this is 2004 CSI....on a 1988 McDonald's, fucking love this channel.
No Tim, he is not a variant of Quicksilver, he is just a guy that lived in that town
WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR LOGIC
I hate that wandavision teased X-men and Mephisto super clearly and heavily but then didn’t pay it off at all. Seemed pointless. I liked in this how the Easter eggs and all the teases seemed to actually fit and the mystery of time felt a good payoff
@@Sam-jv6fb they never teased xmen, they never mentioned mutants, they only teased mephisto
@@aaron-downey ok, and who the hell are you, and thats your fault for not listening to facts
@@Chibbery05 I meant the whole quicksilver thing with her brother. Casting the xmen guy as Pietro was a massive Easter egg lean
Silvie's messing with the multiverse was a distraction so that she could enter the TVA without interruption.
Just when I didn't have anything to watch KF comes through and saves me like an MCU hero lol. Great work as always KF Crew, nothing but love💙
After Sylvie killed Kang. The loop began again where a NEW Kang now made a new timeline where THIS Kang the Conquerer Kang was the one who won and made HIS timeline the new only timeline. Kang's "see you soon". I bet the next season opens with her meeting the new Kang moments later before escaping.
I started the podcast at the store and put the video on when I got home and I am so glad that I did.
Andy and Tim have the lighting match the background which is cool, but Greg went above and beyond and changed his damn skin color to match. Dedication
Tim is Patrick Star and Kevin is Man-Ray trying to explain the time bomb diversion
This episode of In Review is PURE CHAOS and I’m here for it.
The intro music is always perfectly KF while also homaging the franchise being reviewed, but something about this one with the blast of horns and the bells, it’s perfect.
I enjoy these almost as much as the actual shows and films :D
For Ragu Bagu, would it be good to start the conversation by saying "Is X villain better than Top Villain of F Tier?" Yes? Is it better than top of D Tier? And so on until the vote stops it moving foward and then it can be decided where within that tier it falls.
That's how the other proper ranking works
For me, The ending meant that if there are more Kang's now due to the multiverse opening, then there are more different TVA's.
It was after the multiverse exploded, so that's why it's a new TVA.
Fun fact...lokis Hair was CGI in Episode 5 during the alioth Enchantment scene
This is just a KF podcast episode 😂
By far the best Disney Plus show. While not perfect, was a satisfying ride. 8/10 I'd chuck it at 12 on the list.
By that logic shouldn’t it go above wandavision?
@@Mankysausage I would have put Wandavision lower
"By far" is an exaggeration, especially if Loki is only an 8/10.
@@nikkieg158 okay
There's a point in time where this episode crosses the threshold to the McDonald's universe, and I was not disappointed by the tangent.
After an hour Nick was ready to just go but nope! Hahahah. Podcast within a Podcast within a Podcast strikes again!
Am I crazy or does every single one of Greg's arguments in favor of Thanos in Endgame actually applies to Infinity War, not Endgame?
You’re not crazy. That’s exactly what he described
I’m crying laughing at Twinkie and McDonald’s talk
SERIOUSLY. I had to scroll for way too long to find this comment. That was gold.
Hilarious
The 4th quarter of this podcast goes hard.
I mean, one could easily argue Silvie to be the bigger villain than the TVA, He Who Remains was just doing what had to be done and got tired. Ranking villains gets muddied when shows like WandaVision and Loki are all about breaking those kind of conventions/labels. It’s not like Thanos/Magneto who THINK they’re doing a good thing, this variant Kang legit was doing a good thing (and he wasn’t really controlling people’s fates either, that’s a misconception as everyone already played out their free wills) despite the consequences, Wanda was unaware of the damage she was causing in her depression and reversed course when she did, etc. Silvie however served only herself and not others despite consequences, for compelling/understandable reasons, but was still wrong and knew she was wrong, being too afraid to enchant Kang cause she didn’t want to face the truth and had already made up her mind either way. The closest thing WandaVision had to a villain was Agatha, and the closest thing Loki had to one was Silvie, but Loki in general has done the best job at portraying everyone as characters acting the most sensibly within the stories/paths given to them, you understand and give free passes to all of them, which is a first for the MCU.
The MCU has been knocking it out of the park with these shows so far. While not on par with the best of the best movies they continue to deliver watercooler moments and highlight the lesser MCU roster. I could never have predicted that I would enjoy shows about Scarlet Witch, Vision, Falcon, Bucky, or even Loki but now i'll give anything a shot.
Already luvin' the Loki-Kinda Funny banner.
I’m legit starting to get worried about Kevin’s memory issues. He struggles with recalling words like 5 times a podcast.
Maybe he was just super high?
I hope so haha
This intro is so top tier I've watched it 8 times in a row. Bravo!
The tiers now make Ragu Bagu seem so serious. The list is weird because usually no one really cares that much lol
I live for Tim and Kevin's mini beefs lol
Kev needs to lay off the devils lettuce sometimes hahah
At the end before Renslayer says “the only one with free will is the one in charge” then when asked where she is going she says “to find free will” she went to 3100 to find Kane and help him. Also before Loki gets booted the time line is splintering. It happens when Kane no longer knows what’s going to happen
I was like wow how are they gonna talk about Loki for another 40 minutes it seems like things are wrapping up. Then we got to Ragu Bagu.
By far the best Marvel show and the only one where the ending doesn’t deflate the momentum of the show! Loved it!
Please read this, I think I can explain.
Each timeline IS an entirely different universe, but there is only the one quantum realm and the one TVA.
When you see the ring outside the castle, it is not one ring, it is an infinite number of rings all overlapping eachother. This indicates that there are an infinite number of timelines already, but none of them really vary too much from the sacred timeline. It also indicates that time does indeed repeat itself in a cycle. This also means that the multiverse war that was hinted at having already happened is the same one they are leading up to.
What the TVA does is prevent any potential series of events from leading to another kang being born.
The multiverse exists because on a regular timeline all potential outcomes happen simultaneously each splitting reality into a new branch. This is what causes variants, and is why going back and changing the past never effected the future.
Think of the quantum realm as it's own timeline with it's own rules and physics. The quantum timeline is totally linear and does not split like the regular ones do. This means in the quantum realm the past can change the future, so sylvie killing he who remains means that in one of the timelines in the 31st century a kang who is destined to become kang the conqueror will eventually go far enough back in time that they can tunnel into the beginning of the quantum timeline and found the TVA. Because loki was outside of time when this happened, he was not effected, but as far as anyone at the TVA is concerned, that's just how it's always been.
Because time is a flat circle and time quite literally works differently in the quantum realm.
I read this. Thank you so much. I didnt read the line “Time works DIFFERENTLY here” so literal. I just thought time had no affect so it was impossible to go to any different time in the TVA it was just constant but this is amazing thank you so much for taking the time to type all of that!!
This tier system idea is phenomenal.
Remember it was Kang’s wristwatch/temp pad Sylvie used to send Loki away
Greg you nailed the "our rolls in their lifes" lol 🤣
To understand where Loki went at the end you have to understand there is NO time-travel in the MCU, only Universe-hopping. Thing is, 1) Some Universes are younger than others & 2) There are infinite universes so there are many that are VERY similar w/ maybe a few minor differences. This is why in the MCU you can travel to the "past" and change things but not mess up the present you came from, because you're not actually in your past you're in another Universe that is both younger & nearly identical to the one you just left so from your perspective it would seem like you just went back in time. (This also explains how He Who Remains created the "Sacred Timeline"; essentially all he was doing was pruning Universes that differed to much from the one that created him thus leading to the creation of a Kang instead. He had compressed the Multiverse down to only like-Universes, and now it's spiraling outwards again as is the natural order of things.)
So when Sylvie push Loki through the portal at the end she sent him to another Universe where Kang rules the TVA directly, which from our perspective would seem like the same "timeline" only with one MAJOR difference.
That would make sense but Steve going back in time to return the stones and then staying in the past with Peggy and living a full life and meeting Sam as an old man goes against that. Steve being there means he did go back in time and lived a life in the same universe as the movies. I think your logic makes more sense but they kinda fucked up the rules in endgame and it’s gonna suffer for it
Very fitting to get a 45 minute Ragu Bagu during the Loki review
I was listening to this episode in audio but had to watch the video version for whatever the hell Twinkie Kid is
I love how Greg tried to help Tim keep the tier list on track for awhile, but around the 3rd time Andy & Kevin ignore the rules, he gives up and starts making podcasts within podcasts
Episode 5 alone put Loki into my top 10 MCU ranking
Just a theory, but my take on the varient TVA is that "He Who Remains" wasn't entirely honest about there only being ONE timeline. My thought is that the Red Line is the furthest the timeline can branch before it connects to another Kang's timeline. He Who Remains didn't kill off an infinite number of timelines, he isolated his one timeline from the infinite others.
This would explain why the TVA Loki winds up in isn't his original one, but a different timeline entirely.
Lol Kevin and Andy's reaction has me dying at about 25 minutes
easily one of the best in reviews for the ragu bagu part
Watched this episode across two days. The second day started with Ragu Bagu. They finally ranked the TVA and I was legitimately shocked when they still had to rank the show lmao. For awhile I had convinced myself Ragu Bagu was the whole podcast.
Great episode
This was an excellently nonsensical podcast and I loved every second of it
I still haven't heard anyone else talk about it but did anyone notice in the first episode when he crashes in the Gobi desert it really looks like it's paying homage to the shot in iron man when tony crashes the prototype suit after escaping the cave. Actually I think it's the same desert too but I'm not certain on that.
Sylvie should be part of RaguBagu. She murdered a ton of people, the protagonist’s final fight is to stop her, she causes the multiverse and sets off a series of terrible events because of a need for revenge.
if you look at it a different way sylvie is the protagonist, she even says something like “this isn’t about you” to loki when she shows up
@@doogertmcnoogert842 there’s an argument for that but I have trouble buying it given we don’t get her perspective for 2 out of the 6 episodes.
The show writers forgot about loki's super strength and durability, he should have been able to tear apart those TVA agents, and the humans in roxxcart, and the people on lamentis, very easily.
Could not agree more. I think his powers were neutralized inside the TVA, but outside of it, there is no excuse.
The title of this series is likely absurdly brilliant yet so cheesy and embarrassing yet wonderful. They just put every tag word you could want into the name itself.
Thought the season 1 finale of Loki was pretty great and imo it definitely made up for how kinda slow and a little bored i felt throughout the season but overall it was enjoyable and really good. I'm excited for season 2.
I wondered why Haiku In Review was this long and then I got to the circumcision. What a treat
The action in the Wandavision finale was way better than the Oliath "fight"
Tim is not based.
1:16:40 Greg is a god who knows what his people want!
At the end, Loki ends up in an altered-reality. The TVA exists outside of time, but is influenced by the timeline and its branches. I think Ravonna was ultimately successful: she went to get Kang in the event so that, in the event he was killed by Sylvie and Loki, there would still be a functioning TVA. And the new Kang entered the reshaped TVA-one that had changed because the man at the head of it was no longer issuing orders and the TVA had collapsed from a crisis of conscience-and told the truth about the importance of the mission. He built the new TVA, but not before they got a much more damaged multiverse to work with and try to prune.
The CG spectacle in WandaVision was definitely better than Loki's episode 5, as most of it was directly connected to the drama of the characters' arcs and executed better. 20th Century Fox Galactus vibe from Alioth was definitely worse than whatever Disney kids show vibe you got from WandaVision. All the actors had to do was stand there and act silly while WandaVision had them up in the air on wires doing real choreography.
Kevin, you okay bro?
I think Loki gets bonus points for ending with a common theory fans had, falcon and Wanda ended lack lustre cause they threw us off to what they built up.
I have no idea what wandavision was trying to do. They leaned heavily into Mephisto and casting Evan Peters as quicksilver was a huge nod to the xmen, but not to do anything with that was weird
@@Sam-jv6fb yeah i think kevin has shown in movies as well he likes to point in one direction and then throw u off but then eventually return back to what should have happened. It’s interesting I’m not crazy about it in the moment but so far they have always proven it overall
@@SebastianBravoco it is just very surprising how heavily they leaned in the Mephisto thing and then using that particular actor for Evan Peters out of 6 billion humans on earth and then not to do anything with either. they did say something about it and why they didnt lean into those things or why they made the choices, but I didnt like their reasoning
Kevin looking awesome with the beard
Andy your hair....
I'm fucking crying over the food mascot tangents.
Prune the list
Edit: I love that you tiered Ragu Bagu. I need a graphic of the current list!
My preference is Falcon and Winter Soldier. I just didn't like WandaVision. Loki was very enjoyable and very impactful to the MCU. F&WS just hit me harder. It was more grounded and I'm a big fan of thrillers. So another political thriller works for me. We've seen Loki mature and try to do good before. It's not as unique as the character's story of F&WS or even WandaVision. All in all, Loki is my number two of the shows so far.
Also, I have a lot of respect for the director. She told her story and has moved on to different things. It's refreshing that she doesn't want to continue just because the show was renewed. I think that will make the show stronger to let someone else take the reigns
WandaVision was rated so high that it low-key screwed up the lists. Anyway great recovery on the pod because it started hella shakey
Loki from Thor should be S Tier! Replace Endgame Thanos with him and put that Thanos in A Tier!
Jonathan Majors should get an Oscar for that performance
I love how mid plot you guys get into mascots I love you guys I wish I could do in review with you guys
Bombs were sent to sacred timeline to distract the bulk of the TVA while just Sylvie took out the timekeepers (information she got from C20 just before this). Loki stalled her enough I guess for them to regain control and I’m pretty sure they got to Lamentis somehow or they were captured. My brain is mixing some things up around that point.
Anybody else feel like they treat Kevin like their version of Meg from Family Guy
I don't know if my proposal will garner any traction, but I propose they prune any outliers from the MCU altogether!
No more "Vision" from Solo or any X-Men villains.
Anyone else concur?
Wait, so if you go up to Aladdin at Disneyland and ask who they are, they're going to say "I'm Aladdin's friend" instead of just saying they're Aladdin?!
Holy shit yall are insane this episode
Time travel rules and use is NEVER clean, one of the hardest things to set rules for and never have it fail a thought experiment.
For Greg: regarding the TVA being changed (or now in a different timeline) let's try the Bioshock Infinite method. Constants and Variables. If the TVA is outside of time, and impact of Infinity Stones or variable timelines, then it's a constant. However, with He Who Remains gone, another variant of him has taken over the establishment of the TVA at it's inception. The place remains, even Mobius and the other time agents remain, instead of different people or variations of themselves. But it's history has been rewritten. It also now begs the question, what were they doing, or thought was happening, up to the point Loki returns? And what is their goal? Good questions for Season 2.
I'm all in on the tier list. That's the move.
Would love to see a tier list of the movies themselves.
Nick's beanie over the headphones looks like it's photoshopped in when he moves his head hahaha
I really enjoyed Loki! I wish the crew spent more time talking about that, rather than the tangents on this one. Thanks for the content though!
LOVE THE VARIANT INTRO HOLY FAK
Remember when the sign off phrase was “Have a Marvelous Day.” ?
thanks for the reminder! -Andy
i think most of the complaints about some characters or the TVA getting more screen time and info is do to the fact it will be given in the movies and they arent yet ready to make movie goers be forced to see these shows
Watching the circumcision of the List and all I can think of is "How is Zeemo higher than Thanos from End game?"
Tony Stark does more in 10 minutes of movie time (Intro of the accords) than Zeemo did in the ENTIRE MOVIE. Zeemo is a B-tier villain at best until FaTWS. PERIOD.
Handsome hamburglers....yeah this review is off to a great start...