The Rise of 3D-Printed Slop

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  • Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
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    Once out of reach for many people, affordable 3d printers are now everywhere. What started as an innovative tool to rapidly prototype new designs has unfortunately become an easy way to produce endless plastic waste.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 998

  • @Sean_735
    @Sean_735 7 днів тому +875

    For any other engineering students watching this, the biggest use of a 3D printer is to be the MVP of your group projects so you don't have to use your school's crappy services.

    • @uujims
      @uujims 7 днів тому +7

      Omg it’s so true bro. FR

    • @mahdicrazy4719
      @mahdicrazy4719 6 днів тому

      I am working in company and I confirm that

    • @CasGRos
      @CasGRos 6 днів тому +2

      Yep that is what i use my printer fore

    • @Basement_CNC
      @Basement_CNC 6 днів тому +8

      Generally as a mech. Engineering Student having a 3d printer that can turn out prototypes in a afternoon is just soooo useful

    • @AlexMint
      @AlexMint 6 днів тому +8

      Seriously, having to reserve a public printer with dubious maintenance and strict time limits sucks butt. I spent a lot of time in my school's library trying to get their printers to work well, and I got the resin printer and the laser engraver and the wood CNC mill to work again only for someone else to mess it up.

  • @GERMANAITOR
    @GERMANAITOR 7 днів тому +489

    I've never used a 3D printer in my life, but even I knew the dragons being sold at a local fair for FIFTY DOLLARS didn't cost them more than $5 to print.

    • @youtubehandlesux
      @youtubehandlesux 7 днів тому +44

      It's more like $2 including printer maintenance, electricity and filament

    • @TheSynchronizer
      @TheSynchronizer 6 днів тому +60

      If the original person who designed that 3D model was there at the table selling it for 50$, then it would be worth it because you're paying for the 8-20+ hours it may have took him to design it as well, material price is irrelevant when you factor in the labor requirement for designing models.
      The only problem is, joe schmoe didn't make that and wants to reap the rewards which ruins it for everyone who actually puts in the time and effort.

    • @budwittman4907
      @budwittman4907 6 днів тому

      @@youtubehandlesux you are fukn crazy, they take 9 to 12 hrs to print on a gen 2 klipperized printer and any quality rainbow silk pla or petg is 3to 4 c a gram and the dragons average about 120grams each if they are made correctly. it costs about 25 cents an hr to run a 3d printer. (like how it costs about 53 cents a mile to opperate a car, theres more expense than just gasoline)

    • @adama1294
      @adama1294 6 днів тому +4

      Guess you never heard of machine time then.

    • @Ajia_No_Envy
      @Ajia_No_Envy 4 дні тому +19

      ​@adama1294 wow what a long day of doing other stuff while the printer works in the background.

  • @DragonArtist15
    @DragonArtist15 7 днів тому +368

    It’s way more profitable to sell niche items for hobbyists rather than mass printing those flexi dragons

    • @mastermonke2413
      @mastermonke2413 6 днів тому +12

      That's my plan

    • @Purplesquigglystripe
      @Purplesquigglystripe День тому +5

      yeah like furby faceplates or covers for aerogarden knockoffs

    • @kylequinn1963
      @kylequinn1963 19 годин тому +4

      You'd be surprised. My friend and I do this exact thing, he sells flexi toys etc at shows and makes $250-$500 per show on average. I sell custom made 3D printed parts, I do design work, custom parts for customers, niche products other people aren't doing and I make dick all compared to him. Why is this the case? Simple, videos like this. People in general don't understand that 3D printers can actually produce real, functional useful things instead of just flexi toys. When I tell people that I 3D print my own custom designs to replace parts in my Kubota Excavator, my Toro Snowblowers, Gas powered wheelbarrows, engine parts etc they're mind blown and always say the same thing "I didn't know you could make stuff like that, I only thought they were good for toys!"

  • @captainchaoscow
    @captainchaoscow 7 днів тому +1273

    And I thought porcelain figurines of the grandparents generations were goofy, but here we are. People collecting plastic trash.

    • @ce7406
      @ce7406 7 днів тому +94

      i like the porcelain figures i think theyre often beautiful and or charming

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 7 днів тому +80

      Every generation has their annoying tacky nonsense. Our grandparents had those tiny baby Christian figurines, our parents had beanie babies, we have 3d printed junk

    • @ce7406
      @ce7406 7 днів тому +45

      @harrylane4 "our parents" OUCH!!

    • @logan317b
      @logan317b 7 днів тому +9

      They had porcelain figures, we have the Rocktopus

    • @jasonbarry3301
      @jasonbarry3301 7 днів тому +19

      They were goofy, 99% of the time they weren’t even centered around anything relevant in your grandparents lives. People just had so little going on back then that buying a little porcelain chibi white child and maybe putting their grandchild’s name on it gave them something to look at and think about.

  • @Xoliul
    @Xoliul 7 днів тому +456

    I've been 3D-Printing for 7 years, and am a 3D artist by trade. The number one thing I tell somebody asking for advice on buying a 3D printer, is if they are willing to learn how to model, or at least edit models themselves. Without that ability, the usefulness is indeed questionable. I personally make about 80% of my prints myself, for cases that can't be bought (cheaply).

    • @rottwayla
      @rottwayla 7 днів тому +43

      I really do not see a point in buying a printer if you can't model.
      The prints are not truly customized at all and you can buy the stuff or send the model to a friend with a printer.

    • @burgersquid
      @burgersquid 7 днів тому +15

      @@rottwayla There are lots of adapters or very specific brackets you can download and print, that will never be available in a store. For example I was able to print a wall mount for my garden's auto waterer (I dont like it hanging off the faucet near the ground).
      Though I do cad modeling myself, being able to download an existing model saved a lot of wasted time and plastic from creating my own design and running test prints to ensure it all fits and is sturdy enough.
      With all that said though, I don't understand how you could own a 3dprinter and not be motivated to learn cad if you don't know how to do it already.

    • @butterfish-g9f
      @butterfish-g9f 7 днів тому +8

      @@rottwayla I've seen them used to print models of items for tabletop roleplay games. Buying similar items in a premade kit can cost quite a lot for very few items, compared to the printer where you can buy the models and mass print out little set pieces.

    • @Nike_on_a_bike
      @Nike_on_a_bike 7 днів тому +7

      I don't know how to model, but i like painting so i often do miniatures that i like to paint and give away to friends. I've been thinking about modeling though because I've had a handful of small plastic parts that are hard to replace break on me recently.

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. 7 днів тому

      @@Nike_on_a_bike go for it! Learning 3d modelling is very fulfilling

  • @aubreynaulin6207
    @aubreynaulin6207 7 днів тому +718

    This is the bane of the craft show world right now. I’m so sick of seeing the same freebie toys and fidgets clogging up stalls at markets. It’s soooo much and it’s all the same!

    • @KorianHUN
      @KorianHUN 7 днів тому +35

      Post 2016 could be called "trash age" or something. We stalled in a lot of fields except the mass cycling of trash through the general population.

    • @LittleMissDeath
      @LittleMissDeath 7 днів тому +17

      I went to a frstival where a person was selling original 3d print designs for keychains and other items. They were so refreshing.

    • @See-essEll
      @See-essEll 6 днів тому +16

      Put the rainbow silk dragon vendors in a dark corner with all the Cricut/heatpress Karens. Live, Laugh, Love... ON A MUG?

    • @ANIMshit
      @ANIMshit 6 днів тому

      yeah, and they ask for 30 buks for that crap as well lol

    • @stephenwilliams163
      @stephenwilliams163 6 днів тому +20

      I'd lump all the uninspired laser engraver products in too. I'm selling my hand turned wooden gobblets that take days to make and right next to me is a man who printed a Punisher skull on a dollar store cutting board. It makes all of us look cheap.

  • @GeahkBurchill
    @GeahkBurchill 7 днів тому +736

    I’m an artist who was initially _very_ against 3D printing. I didn’t like the layer lines and globs and I much prefer human-sculpted objects that show a little asymmetry and irregularities.
    However, I found myself designing a robot character which needs parts to fit together precisely and be repeatable. What I landed on was to make my parts and use epoxy putty to hand-sculpt forms over a 3D printed chassis.
    This has been the best of both worlds! There are no 3D printed surfaces visible on the final character, but all the parts fit together perfectly and allow pose-ability. Add a good paint job and it’s become my favorite creation ever!

    • @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY
      @RoxanneLaWinSTABBY 7 днів тому +72

      This is what I expected 3D printers to be used for when they first came out a decade ago: making unique parts for creators/inventors/makers. That’s awesome! It’s the tat and slop that 90% of of the filament and energy’s pumping out that’s making me mad. The amount of peoples houses I go round who have this dusty, unsanded crap sat on their Billy bookshelf that will sit there until they die and then a relative has to throw it away.
      Sorry. I’m just really mad at plastic and energy consumption today. It’s so tiring

    • @scifi.ginger
      @scifi.ginger 7 днів тому +10

      I'm there with you too! I'm an artist who was extremely against 3D printing for years until I became friends with someone who used one and I saw that they could be used as a tool to assist with art! It took me a couple years to learn how to make my own 3D files, and how to finish pieces so you cant tell they are 3D printed.
      Printers can be used as tools for artists but they're not design to be making plastic trash like they are.

    • @roodytooty
      @roodytooty 7 днів тому +3

      hey, just checked your channel you've made some pretty cool stuff but i cant find the robot, do you have any images of it posted anywhere? it sounds interesting id love to see it.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 7 днів тому +2

      I’m an old Art History Head & my specialties are print + installation. I feel like you just opened up a fascinating vein of curiosity in me with your comment, thanks.

    • @GeahkBurchill
      @GeahkBurchill 7 днів тому +6

      @@roodytooty hey, thanks for asking about it! Tbh, I’ve had a rough few years so I stopped uploading videos. I had to constantly move work shop and it felt like I had nothing of interest to post on UA-cam because it was so hard to complete any projects.
      It’s nice to hear that you would like to see it. The most I posted publicly is a few shots on instagram or my website blog. Maybe I’ll edit together a full video of the project and see how people respond.
      Thanks for the comment.

  • @adscomics
    @adscomics 7 днів тому +74

    This is why I think that, if you’re going to get into 3D printing, you should consider 3D modeling as well, as half the enjoyment of the hobby is printing your OWN work, not stuff online. Sure printing out the next flexi factory toy will give a hell of a dopamine rush, but it doesn’t last. Printing something that you modeled with your own hands though is extremely satisfying and makes you feel accomplished.

    • @ammlseri5769
      @ammlseri5769 5 днів тому +3

      @@adscomics True, it’s time consuming but so stimulating to design your own models. Need to consider the primary design, then know your printer and limitations and redesign, and then potentially optimise for speed or printer settings. A lot of work but it can be really worth it.
      The only part where printing pre-made designs makes me similarly happy if they are for someone else and have value for them

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 4 дні тому +4

      It's revolutionary if you're into a lot of different hobbies. If you build drones, or RC models, if you're into hobby robotics, electronics, woodworking ect, it's amazing. You can 3D print an entire model aircraft at low cost, and if you crash it, you can simply reprint the broken parts and be back flying your model again. You can custom design parts, so the only limit is your imagination.

  • @kolonarulez5222
    @kolonarulez5222 7 днів тому +423

    My small time comic con is full of people selling nothing but those dragons and octopuses! I only bought from a table who at least painted on some details

    • @j0j0dartiste21
      @j0j0dartiste21 7 днів тому +1

      I've considered selling the dragons but I rather design it myself

    • @DeadFawn
      @DeadFawn 7 днів тому +60

      I went to a con once and met a couple who were actually making some cool stuff with 3D prints. The husband made his own custom modeled figures and the wife printed shelves to put handmade miniature clay produce and foods on. It felt like love went into it and like actual art. Wish more people operated that way at small cons.

    • @gusty7153
      @gusty7153 7 днів тому +8

      i just went to my first comic con the other day. i saw the dragons but i saw a lot of 3d printed deck boxes and accessories for mtg
      also a lot of AI generated art at the front of the place.

    • @Insane_Kane
      @Insane_Kane 6 днів тому

      @@gusty7153 3D Printed Card Storage is a one of the great usecases

    • @AlexMint
      @AlexMint 6 днів тому +4

      @@j0j0dartiste21 unfortunately it's really hard to compete with the ROI of someone who doesn't have to do R&D. Assuming your designs don't get plagiarized, forcing you to compete with yourself. You can't realistically charge much more than the other dragon sellers.

  • @heyitsnyixie_1559
    @heyitsnyixie_1559 7 днів тому +266

    7:15 I would like to make a correction here; the original poster is not calling all 3d printed items crap. She clarifies that she is specifically talking about the mass-produced pre-made templates.

    • @heyitsnyixie_1559
      @heyitsnyixie_1559 7 днів тому +6

      @admdubya2107 and that is your opinion.

    • @RobertTolppi
      @RobertTolppi  7 днів тому +81

      Yes! She did clarify, but I cut the video up a bit for brevity. My apologies if I confused anyone.

    • @Atlas_Redux
      @Atlas_Redux 7 днів тому +3

      @@RobertTolppi Yeah, right. More excuses.

    • @Draknfyre
      @Draknfyre 5 днів тому +2

      @@Lladmdub2107 Literally anything can be described like this.

    • @drip2575
      @drip2575 4 дні тому +1

      @@heyitsnyixie_1559it’s not even an opinion it’s just flat out wrong

  • @MrSonny6155
    @MrSonny6155 6 днів тому +29

    Daily reminder that PLA is "compostable", not biodegradable nor recyclable. Yes, you could try to manually recycle it twice or force the surprisingly tough breakdown conditions, but the expect the average 3D print to land in the landfill for the next 100+ years. Print what you want, but maybe print wisely...

    • @ThatoneNB12
      @ThatoneNB12 День тому

      Compared to ABS it's alot better. But it won't biodegrade unless under VERY specific circumstances.

  • @maryjohnson9337
    @maryjohnson9337 4 дні тому +25

    I tried making my own 3D printing business where I sculpted, printed, then painted figurines. I was so proud of all the work put into each one!
    Then, at both makers markets I vended at, people scoffed at my prices and went to the mass-produced thingiverse booths.

    • @alexbennet4195
      @alexbennet4195 2 дні тому

      What were the prices?

    • @maryjohnson9337
      @maryjohnson9337 2 дні тому

      @ $30 if I remember right

    • @chaschuky999
      @chaschuky999 8 годин тому +1

      @@maryjohnson9337 what scale were the figures and what venue? I feel like depending on the audience they may not understand the effort and cost of modeling and painting a figure.

  • @mchagnon7
    @mchagnon7 6 днів тому +33

    If you bought a 3d printer with no intention of learning how to make 3d models, you're an idiot.

  • @NickLavic
    @NickLavic 4 дні тому +40

    1:53 I highly disagree with the idea that you should order cheap plastic stuff from Temu instead of printing it yourself at home. It is no secret that most of the stuff on Temu is not ethically sourced and the ecological cost of shipping all that stuff wrapped in plastic across seas is enormous.

    • @BrambleGlade
      @BrambleGlade День тому +7

      yeah, worked in retail unpacking and unboxing all that crap-- mountains of shrink wrap, styrafoam, plastic bags, and cardboard just to ship little injection-molded/resin/glass crap around the world. if people enjoy using and maintaing a 3d printer, and like picking CC files to print as gifts instead, that's fine by me.
      I DO agree that people trying to sell prints of CC files is pretty dumb though-- and the filament waste/electrical cost/air pollution is definitely a real concern.
      Wish people would keep that kind of stuff as personal use and gifts.

    • @chaschuky999
      @chaschuky999 7 годин тому +1

      Definitely the most unreasonable take in the video. 3d printers allow you to customize the object to your specific needs, and keep the plastic in a virgin form until you need the object.

  • @rosserobertolli
    @rosserobertolli 7 днів тому +258

    3D designer here... I partly agree and partly disagree:
    1. As a designer almost all my personal prints are useful and solve an issue I have
    2. As a creator I design stuff that other people can print for free. Not fidgets, but mostly useful stuff that highlights 3D printing (Rossero on vairous platforms), but I also have some trinkets and design studies that are less useful.
    3. I don't get the spinners, dragons and flexi toys craze either
    4. Yes, sometimes you can buy the same stuff from the same plastic online. But with a 3D printer you get it teleported to your home. I'd say buying 1kg of plastic and printing 20 useful things is better than ordering 20 useful things separately adding to 1kg of plastic.
    5. Number 4 goes out the window if you order 3D prints instead of printing it yourself, so no, I don't understand the 3D printing business businessmodel
    6. You have done a great job finding appalling looking prints from ugly plastic. This is most times not the case and modern printers print accurately and beautifully with stunning filaments. I can point to a sprue attachment or a mold split line on a conventional part and say that it needs to be sanded, filled and primed before it is close to useable.
    7. There are a lot of functional parts on Thingiverse as well, but they cater to a specific niche (which is an upside of 3D printing), but that means they won't be as popular as the cutest newest little flexy toy. So yes, the front page is garbage but the 95% you are not seeing is what makes designing, sharing and printing great.
    8. I do agree on the extreme amounts of waste 3D printing currently is creating, due to that most users choose to print garbage from the front page

    • @im.empimp
      @im.empimp 7 днів тому +13

      I think your #7 & #8 points are particularly salient. I'd add the following:
      9. Robert mentioned @1:39 "Most people who get a 3d printer cannot use one for the purpose of prototyping, however. Few have the skills to create custom designs for 3D printing.", which _in combination_ with several other factors, including many different model repositories, multiple file types, different design software, and licensing makes it hard for people to find and tweak models of useful things that are ideal for 3d printing at home.
      For example, imagine that you have a "Brand X Model Y 2025" vehicle and you want a somewhat customized modular divider for the armrest storage. After a fair bit of searching, you may find many "Brand X Model Y" models but that aren't for the 2025 model, and there's a minor change by Brand X in measurements that make all those models _not quite usable_. But after finding _almost good enough_ models, is that the provided models might be in a format that requires a specific design software that you don't have, and which would cost more than you can justify spending. Or the model's licensing prohibits modification (granted, most people just "risk it", but they're unlikely to share their modifications, which doesn't help the next person).
      re: #8 - There have at least been multiple efforts at providing some type of consumer-friendly recycling (e.g something that could be used alongside the home/printfarm printers), but every effort that I've heard of has ended up costing drastically more than any potential benefit. Hopefully that changes sooner rather than later.

    • @asteroidrules
      @asteroidrules 7 днів тому +30

      7 really needs to be emphasized. 3D printing is an absolute godsend when you need to build something of a very niche use, but a niche use by definition lacks mass appeal. The first thing I printed after getting my printer working was a mount for attaching servo motors to model railroad track, something I specifically really wanted but not something that's going to convince millions of people to buy 3D printers.

    • @NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan
      @NewSonyWonderHappyMadisonFan 7 днів тому +5

      Dragons are cool tho. :(

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr 7 днів тому +11

      This video is not about you then

    • @rosserobertolli
      @rosserobertolli 7 днів тому +11

      @ Yeah, let's all stay in our own bubble and only watch affirmative content. You are right though, points 1 and 2 place me outside the discussed group of users indeed, but points 4-8 are general and apply to the whole 3D print community and some just give an alternative perspective on the arguments in the video. It's still a good video though and he makes solid points but these were just my two cents

  • @maymay9271
    @maymay9271 7 днів тому +134

    YESSS THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT I’ve been so sick of going to fairs and craft shows and seeing those 3d octopuses for $45

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 7 днів тому +14

      If it was me I wouldn't allow myself to sell them for more than $10 lol
      They cost like $3 max to produce

    • @FrozenDozer
      @FrozenDozer 6 днів тому +7

      Not really the 3D Printers fault. People buy this crap, otherwise it wouldn't be everywhere.

    • @elitsoerrosenberg
      @elitsoerrosenberg 6 днів тому

      2 cents per gram, so most are even cheaper

    • @budwittman4907
      @budwittman4907 6 днів тому

      @@Splarkszter its not quite that cheep to make them and its size and material dependent.

    • @budwittman4907
      @budwittman4907 6 днів тому

      @@elitsoerrosenberg what about machine operational costs and if you use a quality mat like rainbow pla or petg the costs can hit 4c a gram, and a decent size dragon or octopus is about 120grams. and they take about 9 to 12 hrs to print and machine time comes in at about 25c an hr. then theres the exorbitant price that venues re charging to set up for a day. ive seen as high as 350$ for a 10x10

  • @pk_kenzie
    @pk_kenzie 7 днів тому +168

    i also will say, making those little useful items yourself is a more sustainable method than supporting temu or shein or amazon- at the end of the day, the biggest problem with the plastic industry (and, every industry actually) is the SCALE they are being produced. printing a toothpaste squeezer yourself, you cut out the carbon emmissions from shipping, the plastic packaging it would have come in, and youre not telling a factory the item has value and that they need to produce thousands more- youre only bringing one of the item you needed into this world and not thousands of surplus that will end up in a landfill

    • @AveryDelMiller
      @AveryDelMiller 7 днів тому +7

      really good point!

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 7 днів тому +23

      Don't forget the filament also had to be made and shipped. So it depends a lot on the circumstances, your 3D print can truly be more environmental friendly but also can be far worse.

    • @MingusDynastyy
      @MingusDynastyy 7 днів тому +13

      You ever think it's more sustainable to not even have the desire for useless stuff?

    • @AveryDelMiller
      @AveryDelMiller 7 днів тому +5

      @@teresashinkansen9402 possibly! corporations are such a huge contributor to pollution and climate change, I'd be curious to see if someone has calculated the potential difference in sustainability & etc.

    • @pk_kenzie
      @pk_kenzie 7 днів тому +8

      @ one shipment and package that can make 15 items or 15 individual shipments and packaging? (also my filament comes in a cardboard with a cardboard spool with no plastic)

  • @evBeef
    @evBeef 7 днів тому +184

    i've been making objects in blender for a while and a friend suggested 3d printing them, and now I can make moulds from them and cast them in ceramic! it's nice they aren't trapped in the computer forever.... i then saw thingaverse and it gave me same vibe you discuss. i'm going say some thing really mean, but it feels like printing other's designs is a funko pop's collectors version of being creative......!

    • @SlavoidUkr
      @SlavoidUkr 7 днів тому +4

      This is so cool actually. Sounds like a fun endeavour

    • @ridernyello7907
      @ridernyello7907 7 днів тому

      What does that even mean?????

    • @RF-Ataraxia
      @RF-Ataraxia 7 днів тому +6

      That's... Oddly, a very good analogy

    • @maxtravers1314
      @maxtravers1314 7 днів тому

      ⁠@@ridernyello7907funkopops are extremely cheap, low quality figurines with almost nothing that makes them unique, interesting, beautiful,or culturally significant.
      Collecting them is the equivalent of collecting beanie babies thinking that one day they will be valuable

    • @LuluTheCorgi
      @LuluTheCorgi 6 днів тому +3

      That's the most accurate description I've ever heard lmao

  • @padamek
    @padamek 7 днів тому +249

    The health hazard aspect reminds me of when people were having heat strokes from their crypto mining set ups

    • @SimulacresSimulacres-h6i
      @SimulacresSimulacres-h6i 7 днів тому +29

      Well that's just natural selection, how else were they gonna get their NFT Darwin Award?

    • @teresashinkansen9402
      @teresashinkansen9402 7 днів тому +22

      Crypto bros are on another level of idiocy.

    • @MingusDynastyy
      @MingusDynastyy 7 днів тому

      ​@@SimulacresSimulacres-h6iThat isn's natural selection

    • @Atlas_Redux
      @Atlas_Redux 7 днів тому +5

      A typical 3D printer uses less wattage than a classic light bulb. The video is full of nonsense.

    • @LuluTheCorgi
      @LuluTheCorgi 6 днів тому +6

      I hope you aren't writing this from a computer cuz that creates much more heat than a 3d printer

  • @strattonford2557
    @strattonford2557 8 днів тому +121

    I dont understand the toys either. My first I did print a PLA octopus as a stress test - and I actually really like it and mess with it a lot, but thats the only one. 95% of the time i use it to print FPV drone parts. The remaining 5% is novelty jewelry (I really like being able to take any object, shrink it, and make earrings/hand rings etc.). recently printed small bananas with holes as earrings. Im sure I could buy something similar online in metal, but i like the homemade look when ive created/modified the design myself. In addition i can resize as needed if i dont like the fit. Also for jewelry you can make it stupid lightweight amazing (especially earrings.)

    • @TheSynchronizer
      @TheSynchronizer 6 днів тому

      Where do you get your drone files from? I recently got into 3D printing fixed wing aircraft so I'm still learning the ins and outs of who sells the best files or makes the best models

  • @basedjenny7362
    @basedjenny7362 8 днів тому +185

    I’ve been thinking about this for so long

    • @captainchaoscow
      @captainchaoscow 7 днів тому +1

      Same

    • @markkocsicska2590
      @markkocsicska2590 4 дні тому +2

      Same. I've talked about this with friends over and over and I've discussed it on sustainability and anticonsumption themed forums where many people expressed similar frustrations with the hobby. However even remotely talking about all these issues in the 3D printing scene itself always leads to massive backlash. Even suggesting people spend a couple afternoons to learn at least basic 3D modelling hurts many people's egos.

  • @brunoyudi9555
    @brunoyudi9555 7 днів тому +124

    The carbon footprint of 3d printing it yourself is way lower than buying stuff off teemu/aliexpress.
    Also PLA is way more ecologically sustainable than regular ABS, both in manufacturing and in decomposition, which can't even be comparable, PLA can take up to 100 years to decompose, meanwhile the first plastic ever sold still hasn't completely decomposed.
    there is also the factor of packaging and delivery that also increase the carbon footprint of manufactured goods.
    as for recycling, the only reason PLA recycling/decomposition facilities haven't taken off yet is because the volume is still very small for making a viable business model, and thats where the popularization of 3d printers come into play.

    • @AveryDelMiller
      @AveryDelMiller 7 днів тому +10

      good explanation about PLA vs ABS!

    • @Reversed82
      @Reversed82 7 днів тому +17

      in germany there's a recycling company already to which you can ship failed print/waste and buy recycled filament back from them

    • @brunoyudi9555
      @brunoyudi9555 7 днів тому +1

      @ i've heard about it from CNC kitchen, pretty cool initiative

    • @j0j0dartiste21
      @j0j0dartiste21 7 днів тому +7

      ​@@Reversed82I've been melting mine down in silicone molds so it's at least no longer "waste". It's very imperfect though. They are full of air pockets but they still look very unique due to the different colors

    • @PolycultureArt
      @PolycultureArt 7 днів тому +1

      Completely agree with OG and this comment. What a time to be alive.. 😅

  • @MyFictionalChaos
    @MyFictionalChaos 7 днів тому +49

    Two things missing from this comments section: Resin Printers & Hobbyists. Sure, this video most likely referring to FDM printers bc it is about plastic slop. The one thing I'll say about resin printing is that it is a completely different part of the community. While I have more respect, as an artist, to those who design and model their own prints, there is a valid business of printing, sanding, and even PAINTING figures & figurines with licensed files. The biggest thing being warhammer figurines & anime figures. Painters have my respect even if they didnt make the models. If they are purchasing and using the files ethically, it can be a great & profitable business :D
    The second part being hobbyists overall. You dont need to learn how to model in order to have enjoyment from printing. 3D printing was a gateway for me to get into modelling! But for the longest time, I was printing props for cosplay. Purely for my enjoyment. It is not as common, but some shops allow sales with their prop designs. Prop commisions are not as profitable, but a fun side hustle nonetheless. Most prop makers do make their own models, though.

    • @MyFictionalChaos
      @MyFictionalChaos 7 днів тому +5

      I know this isnt what the video was about, but I thought I'd shed some light on the community for those wandering the comments section.

    • @Vladislavaklyma
      @Vladislavaklyma 7 днів тому +6

      Tss, you too smart for this video. The guy just found the worst of the worst examples to prove the existence of the video. I really thought it would be about the oversaturation on the mini market, where interesting designs drowns in endless sets for lv5 dnd campaigns or space marines . But no, we have "3d printing bad, because thinggiver baaad. Wait what is that thing you call MyMiniFactory and Cults3d?" Tfu, just a runter.

    • @budwittman4907
      @budwittman4907 6 днів тому +1

      first sale doctrine, i cant wt for this to get to a court. i dont understand how someone can tell me what can and cannot do with a thing that i made on my printer with my filament and with my electricity. there at least needs to be a time limit on it, saying i can not sell something i made with a file i paid for EVER is bullshit. like say i buy a bunch of buildings from printable scenery, i play them for several campaigns and then i need to make room for new stuff, but im not allowed to sell it after i have used it??

    • @Vladislavaklyma
      @Vladislavaklyma 6 днів тому

      @ I mean, this is the type of people who loooove "to ban people take a shit" . It is their life reason, to allow or not do things with their own lives. Not sure what trauma led this particular orator to this possition, but we have what we have

    • @theonebuns
      @theonebuns 6 днів тому +1

      anyone who's printing warhammer figures without paying games workshop is a legend who deserves a cookie.

  • @T3Level
    @T3Level 7 днів тому +337

    3D Printing is the dude equivalent of a Cricut machine

    • @syd5380
      @syd5380 7 днів тому +17

      LMAO

    • @CubicApocalypse128
      @CubicApocalypse128 7 днів тому +28

      What if I have both

    • @oreotookie
      @oreotookie 7 днів тому +21

      As an owner of a Cricut (and taught classes on it) this made me laugh way too hard. I now own a laser cutter. Love that thing.

    • @wizardothefool
      @wizardothefool 7 днів тому +16

      My mom bought both and thought she was an Entrepreneur. I asked her what her "Store" would have on it and she shrugged

    • @SeymourDisapproves
      @SeymourDisapproves 7 днів тому +12

      That was absolutely uncalled for, on behalf of my grandma I'm quaking rn ✋😭

  • @ammlseri5769
    @ammlseri5769 7 днів тому +28

    I agree that a large amount of pre-made files are trash, either non printable, badly AI generated, effortless, not well designed, etc.
    But there are a few, thoughtful, big and small projects that really deserve recognition, and that I‘m willing to pay to download them as well, considering the work hours gone into them
    Designing yourself is really the way to go most of the time, it takes a few weeks of practice and failed prints, but then it’s simple and quick most of the time
    However, being able to just print all those missing parts you have been searching for ages is priceless. DIY projects get so much easier, I printed so many small repair parts (broken attachments and knobs, vacuum adapters, casings, adapters for devices not produced anymore, etc.)
    3D printers generate waste, and not in small quantities, especially in the first few weeks when you need to figure out their quirks, but I saved at least 4 larger devices from being discarded last month (large family), which would be much more mass of plastic waste and electronic parts, and so far it seems like a net plus for me.

  • @bellisperennissturdivant
    @bellisperennissturdivant 7 днів тому +140

    a big argument for printing assorted Temu trash/gadgets is being able to print something that cost a few dollars for a few cents while also avoiding the carbon effects of shipping etc.. and by that I mean things like display stands, toothpaste squeezers, replacement parts, etc - not just like.. toys

    • @ce7406
      @ce7406 7 днів тому +12

      buy a machine that costs thousands to save pennies LOL

    • @bellisperennissturdivant
      @bellisperennissturdivant 7 днів тому +38

      @@ce7406 lol um what? You can get an extremely decent printer nowadays for 100+ USD. Try again bot!

    • @ce7406
      @ce7406 7 днів тому +4

      @bellisperennissturdivant bot omg

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 7 днів тому +14

      That also causes people to print more stuff than they would have bought exactly because it's cheaper and easier.

    • @brunoyudi9555
      @brunoyudi9555 7 днів тому +12

      @@ce7406 "thousands" an entry level machine is less than $200

  • @cheese7119
    @cheese7119 8 днів тому +140

    Absolutely agree... however nobody mess with the guy who makes 3D printed plants, he's my favorite person

  • @ohhadivist
    @ohhadivist 8 днів тому +432

    I do really dislike printer farms, they along with dropshippers utterly ruin craft fairs. I adore my 3D printer but I am an artist and while I do print from downloaded files from online it is only when I feel I will get some value from it, and I print them to last. Otherwise I am printing my own art or practical niche designs. I think 3D printing is a fantastic hobby, but only if you're in it for the right reasons.

    • @ohhadivist
      @ohhadivist 8 днів тому +41

      Also! 3D printer waste can be melted and made into other things. Sure it's still plastic in the end but you don't have to throw it out :)

    • @Plantichu
      @Plantichu 7 днів тому +9

      I 100% agree. I havent modelled many of my own things to print (im okay with hard surface but im not great at sculpting atm but trying to learn) but the few things i have downloaded and printed have been printed at a high quality, and had a lot of post-processing go into them (sanding, painting etc) I think a 3d printer is an amazing tool for artists/cosplayers/designers/etc but i really dont see the point to having one if you're just gonna print endless "stuff" with them.

    • @SaitoGray
      @SaitoGray 7 днів тому +10

      Absolutely hate how every hobby need to be a business.
      I print, mostly functional part, for a few machine/robot of everyday house use, i also sometime like to do bigger props or figurine, but i would absolutly hate to do it in an expensive farm to sell the same file that i didn't even buy the licence for.
      It's a waste a plastic and energy, i really don't like it.

    • @That_droper
      @That_droper 7 днів тому +1

      @@SaitoGraythere good for people who actually want to make cool items that don’t have millions

    • @Rileydaengineer
      @Rileydaengineer 7 днів тому +1

      Fr I don't ever sell my prints

  • @austinfrings6480
    @austinfrings6480 7 днів тому +34

    The plastic waste is definitely a problem. My hope is that printers will get better with materials like PHA, which are full biodegradable in home compost bins. The drawback for the material right nkw is that it's more difficult to work with, so people are less likely to want to use it.

    • @Theo-pd4ju
      @Theo-pd4ju 6 днів тому +4

      I just ordered some PHA that I'm eager to try out. If the demand rises the quality and pricing will improve. As of now, there are very few vendors that offer 100% PHA filament.

  • @mecca.9025
    @mecca.9025 8 днів тому +141

    My brother has multiple 3D printers. He got them with the hopes of making a small business but his commissions are few and far between. He has made me a few fidget toys, and he mainly uses it to create mini figs for his D&D campaign and actually takes the time to smooth them out and paint them well so good for him. BUT the supports create a lot of plastic waste and sometimes he tells me to stay out of the basement so I don’t inhale toxic fumes when he’s working on something. Ultimately he’s lost money on that and it’s just become a side hobby so I wish he didn’t fall for the hype.

    • @ffwast
      @ffwast 7 днів тому +6

      He needs to ventilate that.

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 7 днів тому +11

      Sounds more like resin than plastic. They are not the same.
      If it's really resin, it's a severe health hazard.

    • @riggsvsoliver
      @riggsvsoliver 5 днів тому +5

      As Spark said, if it’s a resin printer, then yea, that’s a MAJOR health hazard that should be ventilated immediately

    • @ItsEggo
      @ItsEggo День тому

      Well that sucks I turned 3d printing into a 100k plus business

  • @Necatuss
    @Necatuss 7 днів тому +19

    As an artist who loves 3d printers and printing I fully agree with this video. I primarily only print designs I make myself, and usually these are tools or smaller aspects of larger pieces or require heavy refinement after printing. I also have spent a long time learning my machine and I do not leave it running without supervision, thus my print failure rate is extremely low because I make micro adjustments as a print is printing through out the process. TOO many just download others files, click print, walk away, come back and then don't refine the print in any way.

  • @SkorpiioZX
    @SkorpiioZX День тому +2

    I've been saying this for years. I see so many UA-cam shorts of useless 3d prints and all I ever think is "damn, they are really just printing anything to justify buying that printer"

  • @ItsAllPainNoGain
    @ItsAllPainNoGain 4 дні тому +7

    Remember that girl who criticized 3d printed junk? She even specified that custom prints, art and other prints that take time and effort isn't what she was criticizing. Tik tok 3d printers went after her and "united" by printing more junk and celebrated it like a big win for the 3d printing community

    • @linklickz
      @linklickz День тому

      lmao thats awesome

    • @A-G-F-
      @A-G-F- День тому

      People do love garbage

  • @officialpennsyjoe
    @officialpennsyjoe 5 днів тому +5

    In model railroading, 3D printing is a god send for prototypes that are not being produced by manufacturers or old hand-made brass that is expensive.

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 4 дні тому +1

      Any hobby like that has been revolutionized by 3d printing.
      Oh and both sides of the conflict in Ukraine are using 3D printing literally on the battlefield, because it allows rapid deployment of drone parts and accessories that are custom made for specific purposes. Truly a wild time to be alive.
      3D printing is great for small batches or one offs that fulfill a hyper specific purpose.
      I taught myself CAD rather quickly. It's not actually very difficult, and cost me nothing but the time to learn it. For me it's a game changer. I rarely print parts designed by others, although I sometimes use models made by others as a starting point. This is because most of the time my needs are so specific that nobody has yet designed what I want. I actually taught myself how to use CAD before buying a printer, because I felt that the printer would be of limited use without CAD skills.

  • @Patrick-857
    @Patrick-857 4 дні тому +6

    I bought a printer for a fairly specific purpose and then taught myself CAD in order to make the parts I needed. It's saved me a lot of money and allowed me to do things that would otherwise be impossible. I have only ever printed functional parts.
    After two years I've become pretty good at CAD. I can do it pretty fast now.

  • @CharlotteMcclay
    @CharlotteMcclay 8 днів тому +38

    Thank you for making a video on this topic, I think it’s already pretty late but the least we can do is call attention to plastic trash

  • @philippak7726
    @philippak7726 6 днів тому +5

    I have one of those dragons from a recent con. There were two booths at the time selling them. One in gorgeous rainbow colours, and one in single colours.
    I went with the single colour one for a lot of reasons, but the absolute biggest one was that the seller had SPECIFICALLY gone out of their way to use a filament that could be recycled within our country, and had contact with a specific place that could do so. He also did some adaptions on the design to increase the structural stability and gave it a really good weight.
    So good to know I'm not the only one who was concerned about the overpresence of plastic dregs

  • @mortal-enemy
    @mortal-enemy 7 днів тому +10

    I went to an "artists and crafters" market at Christmas time. Haven't been to a flea market in years. Most of the stalls were just aliexpress stuff and 3D printed octopus fidgets being sold for $30. Misery.

  • @salamisofdragons4597
    @salamisofdragons4597 7 днів тому +15

    I have seen people use 3D printers to make an object, sand it, then use it to make silicon molds. They then fill these molds with plaster and paint them in one color.
    This process, overall, has better results and is a better use for a 3D printer. Plaster is cheap, the mold can be used hundreds of times, and you only need to run the printer when you have a NEW idea for an item to sell. Plus, you'll not be making a bunch of plastic waste product. I don't know how much of an issue plaster is, but it is basically a rock at the end of the day that's used for houses and sculptures all the time.

  • @eastlynburkholder3559
    @eastlynburkholder3559 7 днів тому +49

    Any one remember the rush of persons trying to make money making resin items?

  • @YoufTub
    @YoufTub 7 днів тому +46

    I’m old enough to remember that 3D printers were originally called ‘rapid prototypers’. Thank you for pointing out the intended use of the machine. It is not intended to replicate items that we already have, especially if they are things we don’t need, but that’s the majority of use cases now. It’s exciting to see people make NEW, innovative or artistic things using this technology.

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter 7 днів тому

      We live in a consumer culture, not in a maker culture.
      That's the reason of the problem of the whole society.
      Big corporations spend unveliable ammounts of money to exploint people's monkey brains.

  • @shadowlaughers101
    @shadowlaughers101 7 днів тому +37

    The worst thing about this "fidget era" of 3D printing, is the printed garbage makes the actual high quality, well designed adn produced 3D printed parts look bad.
    A common comment I see on 3D printed content is "Oh, its 3D printed, it must be trash [bad quality]". Which just isnt always the case.

    • @DragonArtist15
      @DragonArtist15 6 днів тому

      Exactly! You can get really high quality parts with the right materials and process. People who don’t post process their prints make the rest of us look bad.

  • @ipenguinpod
    @ipenguinpod 8 днів тому +33

    lol yeah it's EXTREMELY goofy to see these 3d printed crap at fairs. because they're not even good at it. they're clearly just made with default settings on a entry level machine.
    I've never really been impressed with print quality from any of these "vendors".
    Now I would absolutely recommend 3d printing for prototyping. It's amazing to be able to take a shape or tool from your head and make it appear line by line.
    I modified my printer with a 1mm nozzle and hotter hot end to feed it. because the prototyping I'm doing is not relying on a fine resolution so the speed upgrade is worth it.

  • @Napkinthekat
    @Napkinthekat 2 дні тому +2

    1:41 also furries use them to create bases for heads which can make the fandom more accessible to people who want to make a fursuit but don’t know how to carve a foam base

  • @CaIasanctius
    @CaIasanctius 8 днів тому +42

    ive never found a point in printing toys and gadgets since my mind isnt wired that way. functional prints on the other have been very helpful in organizing my workspace. its extremely useful when theres something you have lying around and find a spot perfect for it...just draw up a design and you can have a physical object in under a few hours. its also very useful fixing things around the home...just print out a small part to fix something loose, something wobbly, or something cracked...

  • @00000a0009
    @00000a0009 2 дні тому +3

    3D printing is not for fidgets or small art crafts! It's for DIY, projects and personalized functional solutions

  • @camolotthe42
    @camolotthe42 День тому

    What I use my printer for most is for things that would be inconvenient to order, things were I can't find the exact sort of thing that I need, and things that don't exist at all that I have to model and create myself. I've printed out battery and electronics enclosures for my headlamp that are a hybrid of pre-existing models, hooks to store things, clamps for wire runs, mounts for a variety of things, and I modeled a little framework for GoPro's that contains a battery, a switch, and a tiny fan in a door over the back screen, for cooling purposes. 3D printers can be a toy, but their primary actual use is in either printing out things that you need, or printing out very specific things that other people need.

  • @QBziZ
    @QBziZ 7 днів тому +32

    If you can't find a use for a 3D printer for your household, bicycle and workbench, you are beyond hope. The most useful tool in the history of mankind being misused makes me want to cry. Think it, make it.

    • @thenachotech
      @thenachotech 6 днів тому +4

      Jeez dude yeah. Everyone would rather spend their weekend prototyping stuff instead of getting it off amazon or the dollar store.

    • @drip2575
      @drip2575 4 дні тому +1

      @@thenachotechand what if you can’t find it on Amazon or the dollar store then what

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 4 дні тому

      ​@@thenachotechEverything I've made so far has been functional items of my own design, and none of it was available. That's why I started 3D printing, because I couldn't buy the things I wanted, or they were extremely expensive to buy.

    • @thenachotech
      @thenachotech 4 дні тому

      @@Patrick-857 congrats dude. Not sure how that relates to my comment that most ppl would rather not do that and it doesn’t make them “beyond hope” for having different priorities. But still, great that 3d printing works out for you

    • @thenachotech
      @thenachotech 3 дні тому

      @@drip2575 If you constantly find yourself needing a thing made out of plastic, that's not available for sale, and there's no substitute, and it's worth going through the hastle to design and manufacture yourself, then yeah, you're part of the small niche that benefit from having a 3d printer. Most people however, don't. Most people shouldn't get a 3d printer

  • @Draknfyre
    @Draknfyre 5 днів тому +1

    People like novelty. Who would've guessed? Lots of overtones of "Stop liking what I don't like!"

  • @XeroShifter
    @XeroShifter 7 днів тому +7

    I've been part of the 3d printing community and building printers since 2013. Back then printers were grossly taxing to keep going, and barely worked. Because of recent changes in the availability of reliable printers, and the exciting novelty of making your own nick-knacks, 3d printing is undergoing a surge right now. I suspect that it'll hit its market peak in the next 5 years (if it hasn't already) and then decline - in the same way that regular printers are in less homes now than they were in the early 2000's. The reality is that most people do not have the skills to make proper use of their printers and do not want to take the time to learn how to use CAD software or Blender.
    The video title is completely accurate. A huge portion of the models available right now are slop, and it can take me almost as long to find a suitable model for a functional part as it would to 3d model most things I need around the house. As for the dragons, the bubble will burst. Eventually people will have had enough of them, and the next thing will come along, but unless the audience for these things somehow gets bigger, its unlikely that the next fad will reach the same heights as the dragons.
    3d print farms absolutely have a place in society. Its far cheaper to use 3d printing for small scale manufacturing on products than it is to get something injection molded, meaning you can make a profit on more niche things - which is awesome. But the current trend of speed printing low quality items and selling them is unlikely to last for much longer. There is a sense of wonder and novelty towards 3d printed items right now, so many of the visual artifacts are forgiven by the general population, but once the novelty and newness of the technology clears, the expectations of quality will return; and 3d print farms will have to start finding ways to either justify a higher price tag or print high quality at scale.
    You talk for a brief minute about filling, sanding, priming and painting objects, but outside of things maker fairs and cosplay - places where people have a higher price tolerance - the amount of time required to do any of this is so high that its a huge way to lose money. I've designed 3d printed functional items for scaled manufacturing before, where you design the product to have as few finishing operations as possible, and optimize not only the print settings but also the design of the part itself to print with little material, reliably and aesthetically. Its an exhausting process at times, and requires exponentially more work than if you design a part for a 1-off. Its gross that the makers aren't using better print settings, but at $40 I wouldn't expect anything to have more finishing than maybe a single layer of spray paint.

  • @noyza2132
    @noyza2132 21 годину тому +1

    when someone asks me if they should buy a printer, I always ask if they're gonna learn to model. Otherwise it's just an octopus machine

  • @epx123
    @epx123 6 днів тому +3

    The issue is that many STL sharing sites allow users to earn points, which can be exchanged for goods. This creates an incentive to quickly assemble and upload low-quality models just to gain rewards. The problem isn’t just that some 3D printer users lack proper modeling skills-it’s also that the system encourages quantity over quality

  • @wolfsbergdraws5983
    @wolfsbergdraws5983 7 днів тому +10

    This. Im tiiiredddd of seeing 3D printed junk at conventions. Its endless, people selling stupid dragons, slugs, and rocktopuses that I know they downloaded off cults or thingiverse. Just overpriced junk that's gonna end up in a landfill that will outlive all of us and our grandkids. The only kind of 3D printing that belongs at makers fairs or conventions are original designs. Like original work, resin printed miniatures sculpted by the artist that can be painted and enjoyed, etc. Thanks for breaking it down so well in this video

  • @falafell
    @falafell 6 днів тому +4

    This is NOT what 3d printing was designed for. This is NOT what it should be used for. Make something useful, Design something, print some parts, engineer

  • @chrisakaschulbus4903
    @chrisakaschulbus4903 День тому +2

    I don't do CAD, i don't do prototyping, i am not a maker, i am a consumer. That's why i bought my bambulab A1 and print downloaded toys and decorative items.

    • @A-G-F-
      @A-G-F- День тому

      Thats... Kinda sad

  • @ItsRyanStudios
    @ItsRyanStudios 6 днів тому +3

    This is why gun printing is the ultimate use of 3d printing, yet the maker community desperately tries to distance itself from that.

  • @TruFrag
    @TruFrag День тому +1

    About half of my prints are finished to retail quality the other half is brought to ready to paint and sold as paint it your self kits, saves the purchaser 30% not having my do the final painting. Correct errors with a 3d printing pen and a temperature controlled soldiering iron. No filler.

  • @akuunreach
    @akuunreach 7 днів тому +12

    3 mins in and you're recommending people just buy stuff online instead of 3d printing.
    1 you're talking about adding to pollution, to ship a hunk of plastic from China or wherever
    2 printing your own is very cheap, even with multiple failed attempts, and that includes energy cost
    3 it will likely still take less time to print, than waiting for your delivery
    While we're not fully there yet, there is a pretty sizable push for recycling to make new filament

    • @relo999
      @relo999 7 днів тому +3

      The waste argument really goes out of the window when you consider the whole lifespan of the plastic, as pretty much all raw plastic pallets used to make spools are made in China. Sending a kilo of raw plastic pallets to make into a spool, to then send out to a consumer that runs a machine for hours is significantly more energy and waste intensive than multiple the plastic, pushing it into a mold and sending it overseas. Less shipping involved and less energy intensive production. And that's not even touching the energy/waste cost of manufacturing and shipping a home printer or waste/energy cost of supports and failed prints.

    • @nathanmarotz8945
      @nathanmarotz8945 5 днів тому +2

      a professional critic is someone who is good at nothing, so they take their frustration with themselves out on others.
      the supply chain is a foreign concept to them.

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 4 дні тому +4

      I think he is recommending to not buy plastic garbage????? You don't have to buy plastic figurines lol, no one has a gun to your head forcing you to buy funko pops. You could just.... Stop...

    • @reinux
      @reinux День тому +1

      I'm guilty of printing a ton of garbage. Not only does owning a 3D printer incentivize you to make a ton of garbage for you and your friends and family, failed prints and "oh-I-could-make-this-2-millimeters-smaller" prints end up being several times the amount of actually useful prints. The inherent weakness of layered manufacturing also means that most parts end up using more plastic for durability than something you can find injection molded.
      Yes, there are cases where printing actually reduces your overall footprint, especially if you're involved in specific industries, e.g. farming or electronics. Otherwise, it truly is wasteful, even compared to shipping junk from China.
      I think 3D printing is a fantastic hobby, especially if you want to learn about modeling and engineering and such, but if we're being honest, we need to make some serious adjustments and improvements to our supply chain.

  • @hattree
    @hattree 4 дні тому +1

    The best use for 3D printing I've seen is to replicate old plastic parts that have failed with time.

    • @A-G-F-
      @A-G-F- День тому

      100% the best use for 3D printing, saves money, saves fuel on shippments, and saves A LOT of time

  • @LavendelBrei
    @LavendelBrei 7 днів тому +9

    IDK, I have multiple printers and use them all the time for various projects like repairing vintage tech for which you can't find replacement parts, making organizational tools for my workshop and kitchen, and yes designing and selling custom protective synthesizer cases.
    I had been following the 3d printer evolution since the 2000s and I'm super happy that the barrier to entry has come down since robotics isn't my specialty and I was only able to jump into the hobby once the price came down and reliability went up. I'm personally not surprised that a lot of people print junk, especially before they learn how to make their own models and I think that is and inevitable result of accessibility and the rapidly improving printer tech. I do also think that while the slop sellers are very visible they are certainly a minority of printer owners.

  • @mark6302
    @mark6302 День тому +2

    I have a bambu and cringe when I see people who do live shows with all the crap they printed on their bambu because I know how much poop gets made for a tiny multicolor print.

  • @friendofp.24
    @friendofp.24 7 днів тому +4

    I always found it embarrassing to hear people say "Yeah I got a 3D printer and now I made (random knick-knack junk)." Like, out of all things cool you can do with one, you decided to make an ugly hat rack.

  • @heavenlymachinery2
    @heavenlymachinery2 7 днів тому +30

    This video showed up for me out of nowhere I wasn’t even looking for anything about 3D printers! But I’m glad I came across it, great message. I remember when I first heard about 3D printers years ago, they were supposed to create prosthetic limbs and revolutionize medicine and beyond. But now, it feels like their potential has faded, and most of the time, they’re just used (like you said) to print yet another plastic octopus. I hope this video goes viral, we don’t need more plastic waste just because the process of making it is cheap and satisfying.

    • @DevinJuularValentine
      @DevinJuularValentine 7 днів тому +8

      People still are using it for the good stuff, it's just I guess most people are trained to not use their imagination very much these days. I've printed a few accessibility aids for example and given them out for free because of how cheap it is, and that's something I'd like to build on and improve - and design. It's absolutely game changing because economy of scale isn't an issue, so it means it's possible to solve a niche problem that classic manufacturers won't touch because the cost of tooling and setup would be prohibitive. For example I've been asked to design a device to keep hands still for having nails painted - for people with spasms who can't keep their hands still or even open. It's so nieche but it's something that will help someone feel less disabled. And even if it was a product, it would be so expensive because of how rare the need for it is Vs cost of production. But for me it will just be my time and the cost of print which is always minimal.
      I've also been designing a device for drummers to try and reduce a little bit of plastic waste on a consumable item on kits (cymbal sleeves). Again very niche.
      This technology has huge potential, but like many things it gets diluted by consumerism - and it's not their fault, we are heavily psychologically manipulated to want to consume by all the advertising we see all day every day

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 7 днів тому +1

      3D printers do get used for producing tooth replacements etc. And sure, making it easier to create stuff also makes it easier to create garbage, but it still resulted in quite a few useful and valuable things.

    • @picahudsoniaunflocked5426
      @picahudsoniaunflocked5426 7 днів тому

      @@DevinJuularValentine The comments under this video are great in general, & yours sticks out even among so many other good comments! I’m learning so much! Thanks, I hope you have a good life1

    • @Theo-pd4ju
      @Theo-pd4ju 6 днів тому +1

      There are 3d printers that build houses now. Much faster and cheaper than traditional building methods. I have a 3d printer that I print useful stuff I would have to order otherwise. I print with PHA plastic wich is made from microorganisms and is 100% biodegradable and compostable in your own home.

  • @raffaelrubio4092
    @raffaelrubio4092 7 днів тому +12

    I like the take on the 3D-Printed slop and why they receive hate in hand crafted communities. But the problem with platforms like Etsy is that their is also a lot of dropship junk on there.
    Im more into the practical print part of 3D Printing, im myself also got the skillset to make my own stuff. (Draftsman & Mecanical Engineering)
    Im take an active part in the 3d Printig communities. The problem with technology in general is the normal consumer. Like also with for example a laptop, people buy themselves a expensive "good" Laptop, but most people just use them for basic tasks. And now with 3D-Printer prices, more and more people join and just see it as a kind of toy. But still its nice to see that its more possible to get into a hobby an a tight budget.
    Now on the technology thing in this Video. Theres some confusion about time an Quality. I probably are not the target audience, but layer hight = Quality or the sanding part, are really simple answer to a much more complicated Question. And also the good example of a print is made with SLA. Also a 3d printer but different technology and also used for different kind of parts.
    Like every tool, just because you have one and can use it somehow does not make you a professional. Still i like to see people try.
    Now to say that 3d printig is just wasting material. There are a lot of talented People out there making amazing things. And a also think that is a Art and craftsmanship.
    And also on a Sidenote PLA the most common material als make from cornstarch. So its at least recyclable, or industrial bio degradeble.
    There's also the open-source space around the models. Many tanlented people make amazing Stuff and later see there property get selled without asking on sites like Etsy.
    And also like i already see the Benchy in the Thumbnail is a quite practical tool for Calibration, and not really slop.

  • @wr3ns.d1ary
    @wr3ns.d1ary 6 днів тому +1

    8:32 i’ve bought some things designed by her and sold at a handmade store! they were pretty cheap and i like them, but i assumed they had been designed by the seller. the layer thickness is not super thick so i don’t regret the purchase, it’s just deceptive.

  • @ekat1
    @ekat1 7 днів тому +5

    the last craft show I went to was nothing but 3D printed items and hunbots trying to get people to sign up for their MLMs, it was awful

    • @reinux
      @reinux День тому

      3D prints should be banned from any kind of in-person art gatherings. I say this as a 3D printing hobbyist myself.

  • @williamkeene6434
    @williamkeene6434 4 дні тому +2

    i got a 3d printer to make items that benefit/tidy my space (wire hanger so i can evenly space ethernet cables over a large surface ect) and some sculptures, it was the best purchase ive ever made

  • @Verbosal
    @Verbosal 7 днів тому +15

    This is such a pessimistic look on 3d printing. Let people use 3d printers for what they want! Buying what can be 3d printed is just as, if not more both costly and environmentally unfriendly as non-3d printed products, because in the end it's all just plastic. Delivery requires transport which requires fuel and may take a lot of waiting time (especially if bought cheap), so often, 3d printing is much more convenient in that regard. The layer lines are not "ugly", and at smaller layer heights they're quite invisible really. The examples you've shown are either terrible prints or ones with unnecessarily large layer heights. I've myself never done any post-processing in years of experience with 3d printers. Even if so, what is there to hate about layer lines if it's something you've made yourself and are proud of?! Frankly, I find the layer lines aesthetically unique. Also, 3d printing doesn't have to yield any profit. When it comes to whether or not a product's been hand-made, what matters in my opinion is the quality of it, not the technology it's been made in, so don't judge the printer, rather the maker, or yourself for having such high standards. Jeez. 3d printing isn't all just about printing useless gizmos, you're forgetting about the useful, the functional side of the community. 3d print failures are no longer common these days with newer generation 3d printers, and the filament is not "fibrous" unless it's a carbon or glass fiber composite. This here is a bad portrayal of 3d printing as a whole, and perhaps if you'd like to learn more, then get a damn 3d printer already!!! I can't believe you've made an full video criticizing 3d printing probably without even using or owning one. God, I would really like to reply to more of these awful claims about 3d printing mentioned in the video, but I should get studying now. Bye.

    • @Elliarts54
      @Elliarts54 7 днів тому +2

      Not to mention I've seen more of cool cosplay things made in 3D printers, then any of the "slop" people talk about🙃🥲

    • @merpkiller
      @merpkiller 2 дні тому

      Exactly, this person just seems like a massive killjoy. Ignores the larger picture, and only focuses on the lowest common denominator in a bubble.

  • @Tim2716
    @Tim2716 7 днів тому +5

    I have 3-D printed 2 RC cars, both of them have their problems with quality, but they are both my creations that I designed from the ground up, and at the end of the day, their existence makes me happy.

  • @icon4000
    @icon4000 7 днів тому +16

    Counterpoint, getting a tiny trinket shipped across the world in a disposable plastic wrapping from Temu is much more environmentally taxing. Just have fun with it my dude.

    • @palajamfoxhole4400
      @palajamfoxhole4400 6 днів тому

      Sorry but your wrong.
      Most people buy Filament from China because the locally produced one costs a couple $ / € more per KG so in the end its the same shipping for the same Junk at the end of the day.

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 4 дні тому

      Why do you people need trinkets so badly?

  • @geert6291
    @geert6291 4 дні тому +2

    I think everyone would do the world a favor if they printed their trinkets at home in PLA instead of ordering petroleum based crap from Temu and ship it across the globe on a diesel powered boat or cargoplane.

    • @Weaver_Games
      @Weaver_Games 4 дні тому

      How do you think your spools of PLA get to your house?

    • @geert6291
      @geert6291 2 години тому

      @@Weaver_Games PLA is easily made anywhere in the world. You really don't need to order that from China. I order mine from a company in my own country.

  • @ishathakor
    @ishathakor 7 днів тому +6

    as a trinket lover i think trinkets are best when made with love, not just pumped out for a profit

  • @lunaloveless7234
    @lunaloveless7234 17 годин тому

    a 3D printer saved my butt with a lost christmas tree leg because it was a weird size that i could not find a replacement for. thats definitely its intended use though lol

  • @qtluna7917
    @qtluna7917 7 днів тому +11

    2:38 At this point, you are projecting your own perception of something as a general rule. I have a few tiny things that were printed for me, and I am leaving the print lines by choice. I do like the texture, the tiny inconsistencies, the blemishes, the unprimed and unpainted plastic.
    (I also have a wall in one room that I stripped of wallpaper to have the plaster visible that was never meant to be visible, and a 300 by 50 cm steel counter from a demolished workshop that still is painted in an old, damaged, very uneven rust-resistant coating, so I genuinely enjoy stuff that others would find "ugly")
    What you are basically doing here is the same as people who trash talk kitsch, modern art or someone's clothing choice. It is fine if you don't like it, but saying something has to be a certain way for it to be pleasant to anyone is certainly leaving a bad taste for me, on what's otherwise a pretty good video. (Especially considering your statement at 7:10, where you state, that you wouldn't call something crap, since crap is in the eye of the beholder.)

    • @BigFx
      @BigFx 7 днів тому +1

      It's like listening to a boomer's "back in my days" , but you need an ai voice changer + ai granny video filter to match his vibe :)

  • @zachariahm.kemper7406
    @zachariahm.kemper7406 7 днів тому +12

    I use mine to fix shit that breaks to prolong the life of my controllers for example as well as adjust the speed feel to my liking, but yeah just because those toys are the most downloaded doesn't mean they are the most printed, like I've downloaded models of characters I like that I might one day print but like my steam library just sits there on my computer

    • @rivetsquid8887
      @rivetsquid8887 7 днів тому +3

      The toys are incredibly prevalent. They flood etsy, craft fairs, there's even kiosks in some malls now, hawking those octopi

    • @zachariahm.kemper7406
      @zachariahm.kemper7406 7 днів тому

      @@rivetsquid8887 yeah, but so does cheap junk of every shape and size, junk maybe by child labour and all different types of crap, drop shipped straight from Etsy, the problem in Etsy' case is itself, that drop shipped stuff is also a problem that has became insane, so people say we need to lower the de minimis in the US but I personally think that there's probably a better way to solve that, but yeah back to 3d printing yeah it's insane how much these sites are overwhelming with it but they're were already overwhelming with trash after moving away from in etsy case an actually home made demographic and yeah it's a waist of plastic but so is any other plastic toy, TBH I don't see a point in buying a non custom 3d printed toy

  • @smileyp4535
    @smileyp4535 День тому +3

    I constantly think about this whenever I see weird 3d print shorts.
    I'm glad you made this video, I hope it gets more known.
    As usual, capitalism is cancer. It's just a waste

  • @adama1294
    @adama1294 6 днів тому +3

    Wow this guy has no idea what toys are. My kids love the stuff I print for them.

    • @bregbarega3717
      @bregbarega3717 6 днів тому +2

      That's a whole another story, sir. Those toys have a purpose

    • @notapplicable6985
      @notapplicable6985 4 дні тому

      @@adama1294 It's not about the stuff you print. It's about the slop that are in shops and sold by vendors

  • @rancidmarshmallow4468
    @rancidmarshmallow4468 7 днів тому +4

    Interesting to see (what I assume is) an outside perspective on 3d printers. Yeah, the garbage trinkets seem to end up everywhere, just because of the low barrier to entry. While I and many people I know print practical items, often self-designed, for hobbies or real problems. In some areas, printers have been revolutionary and incredibly powerful tools. But the wider world mostly sees none of that, just the crap on display, which is a shame.

  • @justinvlogs4590
    @justinvlogs4590 День тому

    My enjoyment out of printing is printing things I couldn't buy. I'm currently working on a prop pulse rifle from Warhammer. I haven't seen anywhere I've been able to buy anything like that. I also deeply enjoy functional prints. I printed a modular moss pole that has a water reservoir for climbing plants. I also printed a sort of ball bearings roller coaster for a friend of mine. I also have a resin printer which is great for very small detail items. I use that primarily for tabletop minis. I play DND, and I'm also planning on getting into Warhammer 40k with printed minis. There's also a huge cottage industry of 3d printed nerf blasters that I would like to dip into at some point.
    All this to say, if you're limiting your impression of the things people print to the front page of thingiverse, you're getting a very distorted view.

  • @zachharmon7459
    @zachharmon7459 7 днів тому +11

    come back next week when Robert discuses how scrapbookers are just making really shitty photo albums when they could just order a professional photo album. it's called a hobby my friend.

    • @maxtravers1314
      @maxtravers1314 7 днів тому +3

      It’s no longer a hobby if you’re trying to make regular money off of it, and that doesn’t justify the prices these people try and charge for their “hobby”

  • @davidpennington2406
    @davidpennington2406 День тому +2

    The rise of video essay slop

  • @dorjedriftwood2731
    @dorjedriftwood2731 7 днів тому +12

    Don’t understand why UA-cam won’t stop pushing this video on me but I had to open it in browser just to know for sure. I could tell by your thumbnail you look smug frankly. But had to be sure. Looking at your other subjects, I want absolutely nothing to do with you.
    UA-cam needs to make do not recommend a feature at all times. I shouldn’t have to open a video and lose the ability to say do not recommend and so be forced to open in another browser just to not lose the recommended window where it is possible to block your channel.
    UA-cam needs a block feature badly that is accessible from anyone’s front page.

    • @cruze_the
      @cruze_the 7 днів тому +1

      Press the three dots next to the thumbnail then press block creator. It might be a PC only feature though.

    • @KP-ty9yl
      @KP-ty9yl 7 днів тому +5

      Thank you. Smug was my first impression as well to be honest. They have a very surface level understanding of a topic and make a video about it - pumping out slop for profit.

    • @LuluTheCorgi
      @LuluTheCorgi 6 днів тому

      ​@@cruze_theliterally doesn't do anything, usually only hides the video for a couple days at best

  • @WilliamRobinson-g4f
    @WilliamRobinson-g4f 7 днів тому +8

    0:35 I’ve been tired of proposed technological solutions to problems for yeaaars. 90% of the time (source: my ass), the issue is sociopolitical, and the “will this technology solve the problem” nonsense further obfuscates how obsolete our mode of production is.
    Edit: ^^^ in service of continuing the causes of various problems.

    • @fightthepowerman
      @fightthepowerman 7 днів тому +1

      One wonders if its that way on a micro level as well. People want to be part of the solution. People want to feel like their consumer choices matter.

  • @gnome5676
    @gnome5676 7 днів тому +3

    Great video! I'm a vendor on conventions, I sell things like art prints or keychains, I have over 60 original designs I drew each, it's very sad for me and my vendor friends to see booths filled with 3d printed junk. It's a whole table of 10 same designs reprinted in a few colors, and maany of them sold designs that !!!!!!DONT ALLOW USAGE FOR SELLING!!!!! I really wish events looked properly into who they accept..

  • @RottNFlesh
    @RottNFlesh 7 днів тому +3

    This feels heavily a unnecessary cry about a subject with a grey area. I can get behind the idea of useless junk models but putting entire demographic into "Most of 3D printers" category is a bit stretch. Also calling "things you can buy from temu" can easily be argued upon
    1. It's cheaper to print yourself
    2. Its printers moral compass to make that choice. You cannot decide someone elses behalf of what they buy from where.
    3. It's mass produced junk if you buying from websites like temu. If the polution comes to convo, You are probably poluting same as a 3D printer if not more.
    4. Not showing any data on everthing you talk is a bit sketchy too. I am not calling you out, I just rather a video with hard evidence than "Yeah they look ugly and its polution"
    Overall this rant is a few keypoints with a LOT of unnecessary anger towards general printers.

  • @chublez
    @chublez 7 днів тому +12

    Guy with no 3D print experience teaches us everything we need to know.

  • @Tiger-fv3nl
    @Tiger-fv3nl 5 днів тому +1

    As a fellow 3d printer myself who has been in the game since the beginnings. I have to say that i HATE those stupid dragons and fidget toys. Most people are not creative at all and these people in the comments are correct. Get rid of these clowns! On the other hand if you are very creative and spend days, if not weeks, painstakingly creating your own designs then there is no difference between you and any other artist. Creating custom models isn't easy or everybody would do that instead of printing those stupid dragons.

  • @soft.crunch
    @soft.crunch 7 днів тому +3

    There's this kid in my area who I see at every local convention I go to. He has a business selling 3d printed items that I can tell he didn't design himself because the style of the trinkets varies so much. It's literally Rudolph the Rednose Reindeer mixed with hyper-detailed dragon fidgets. I hope that somewhere down the line he grows out of those and builds a business off of original content.
    Great video, this validated my concerns lol

  • @wannabewyvern
    @wannabewyvern 7 днів тому +2

    I print thingamajigs like little plastic animal sculptures, but the difference is that they’re all models I made myself. My best friend made me a 3d model of one one of my characters for Christmas and I printed him out so I can have him on my desk in real life.

  • @carafurry7862
    @carafurry7862 7 днів тому +3

    I use my printer for printing out life size or semi life size fossils and bones for my display case. Right now im trying to print out a mask to see how that turns out.

  • @rashycraps
    @rashycraps 4 години тому

    As a crocheter who hand makes everything and has to learn a new pattern every time I want to make a new item, I appreciate you pointing out the difference between handmade and 3d printed

  • @donber6584
    @donber6584 7 днів тому +4

    As someone who self reportedly loves the 3D crap and the novelty of them, I completely understand why this would be a frustrating phenomenon for the makers and creators at these events. I can certainly see why having a space that is meant to support hard work and labors of love be overrun by low effort commercialism is so upsetting and visceral.

  • @HazelwithaZ
    @HazelwithaZ 7 днів тому +1

    I got tipped with a 3D turtle for my grocery delivery job... Not cute, just give me cash or don't tip.

  • @axneon
    @axneon 7 днів тому +4

    I am a big 3D printing enthusiast and I wholeheartedly agree! Last time I went to a convention, there were dozens of these tables full of 3D printed dragons and various free thingiverse trinkets. I thought it was cool the first time but seeing so many of these taking up what should be the spaces of local artists put a pit in my stomach

  • @wreckstoracecars
    @wreckstoracecars 7 днів тому

    My ender 3 was trash. But even then I recognized that I could print useful things like bezels for custom displays, various custom containers. Parts or accessories that weren't structural. I really wanted to print cosplay items. It's a tool that can make things, just not everything.

  • @tokensplashf3550
    @tokensplashf3550 7 днів тому +3

    THANK YOU! I am a 3dprinting specialist, 3d sculptor, and collectable figure painter. Ppl hire me to run their print farm businesses and they always go broke and there is tons of waste. I hate it.

    • @PolycultureArt
      @PolycultureArt 7 днів тому +3

      “People hire me to run their print business and they always go broke” … ha ha ha.. maybe you are the common denominator bruv? Lol😅 (jokes)

    • @tokensplashf3550
      @tokensplashf3550 7 днів тому +1

      @PolycultureArt lol it's mostly the owners embezzling tbh. This happened in two different situations. Never again will I run a print farm, they are bad news! Not to mention the metaphorical and literal toxicity 😬

    • @PolycultureArt
      @PolycultureArt 7 днів тому

      @ Beautifully said. Thanks for being cool about my roast.. Hey also, you wanna run my print farm?

    • @tokensplashf3550
      @tokensplashf3550 7 днів тому +1

      @PolycultureArt I appreciate that you specified that it was a joke/roast lol sarcasm whooshes on by me like deadlines.
      I am more than happy to use 3D printing as a tool to make my digital sculpts physical so that I can paint them. You can imagine my reaction when my partner said "Why don't you start your own print farm?"
      Print farms, NEVER AGAIN!

    • @PolycultureArt
      @PolycultureArt 7 днів тому +1

      @ ha ha ha ha! Too real! lol

  • @SpookyBurrito
    @SpookyBurrito 7 днів тому +2

    So you don't 3D print, don't go to these craft fairs, and can't be bothered to look past page 1 on thingiverse. You're really desperate for shit to make videos about, huh? Have you thought about this? All the injection molded plastic objects you see at the store were made in batches of hundreds and thousands. The sooner things like that are replaced with small batch on demand printed objects the sooner we can reduce the amount of injection molded junk going in land fills. If you see a table covered in 3D printed parts at a craft fair, that's probably the sellers entire inventory. For every bag of plastic coffee stirs you see at the store there's at least 1 warehouse full of crates filled with those parts. Yes, the surface finish of FDM parts is often less than glass smooth. Here is my response: So what?

  • @glorydragon2597
    @glorydragon2597 7 днів тому +3

    omfg I didn't even realise that 3d prints were supposed to be sanded. I only ever see the ridged ones 😣

    • @SaitoGray
      @SaitoGray 7 днів тому +7

      It's not supposed to be anything. Printer lines are fine, it's just not looking good on big painted props.

    • @Albinojackrussel
      @Albinojackrussel 7 днів тому +1

      ​@@SaitoGray Printer lines are kinda like raw loose threads on sewing, knit or crochet, or tool marks on wood carving. They're a sign of poor finishing.

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. 7 днів тому +6

      @@Albinojackrussel poor finishing if it's meant to be something that exists to be seen (models, cosplay etc) for functional stuff like replacement mechanical components that only need the mating surfaces to be dimensional it doesn't really matter. I'm not sanding a gear I made to replace a part of the drive on my vacuum, but I definitely sanded, filled, primed, and painted my cosplay models.

    • @SaitoGray
      @SaitoGray 7 днів тому +1

      @ Exactly, that's the difference. The fixation on sanding is so weird. You don't need to sand most stuff, but you ABSOLUTELY need to do it on props of cosplay made for show and painted.
      Printed line area totally fine finish. You barely see them if your machine is calibrated.

    • @Aneurin_Hunt
      @Aneurin_Hunt 7 днів тому +1

      They aren't supposed to be sanded. It all depends on what you want. The layer lines are just a part of how FDM printers work. Some use cases the lines don't matter.

  • @MadCowMusic
    @MadCowMusic 6 днів тому +2

    It takes 5 mins to print a thing; waiting for it to finish printing doesn't really count as hard work.

  • @supertonyjr8903
    @supertonyjr8903 7 днів тому +19

    Buying a 3d printer and lacking the skills to 3d model is like not knowing how to drive and buying a car, sure you will still be able to drive it but will inevitably cause disastrous consequences

    • @ET_AYY_LMAO
      @ET_AYY_LMAO 7 днів тому

      Lmao, what the fuck are you talking about? 3D printing today is literally easier than using an inkjet printer. What disaster should come of it? "Oh NOES people are 3d Printing benchies :(((". You and that silly billy nerd in the video.... The world does not need you guys opinions.